When I was a kid, I was poor and there was no way I could afford a Raleigh. I knew a guy who had a Raleigh 753 TI. It was so nice. He rode it for about 10yrs and then sold it. About 5yrs later he went to the guy and bought it back. He had it completely re furnished to brand new. Now it just sits over his fireplace
Definitely my era, one of the first bikes I competed on was a Ti Raleigh professional, superb bike, also had a Falcon and a Carlton winter bike, raced with the Bell Bros a fare few times over those years, Port Sunlight evening chain gangs, brilliant times, still riding now 45 years on and the magic never goes away😀😀
Wow, thanks for sharing! 🚴 your right about the magic. It’s the one thing that’s becoming more important to me then anything else. All the best happy cycling buddy
Hiding away in my parents garage is a lovely Raleigh competition that was built by the light weight shop for the Harrogate show many moons ago,1986 ish . It was made by Arthur gamble who we lost earlier this year . Most of my aunts and uncles worked at Raleigh
As is the Belgium national jersey too imho. Light blue with the yellow/black/red. Btw the national colours in cycling came from the first motor races 100 plus years ago....Belgium choose light blue, Italy dark blue, France yellow, UK dark green, Germany white....only Belgium and Italy stuck with it !
Great vid and history lesson, Andy! I actually did my undergrad degree placement at Raleigh/Dynatech in 1993/4. We were looking at some of the structural characteristics of the bonded Ti frames, using very early CAD simulation/FEA methods. I do this kind of work with loads of companies now, but I’ve got a real soft spot for the Dynatech frames we helped develop.
Interesting! I have a Dynatech 755 Ti from around then in original condition (including tyres and tubes), so it's really interesting to learn more about the Dynatech story.
That Brown Raleigh with the 27" wheels was a strange beast! Almost tempted to say the Frame was from earlier times and restored and rebuilt. Unless Raleigh were trying to make old school new bikes and sell them to the retro loving type of club guys..
I thought the time period with all the clamp on parts and the Calton name was earlier 🤔 I’d have to research how long Raleigh continued the Carlton name for.
Lovely, lovely bikes! What a delight to see them! I am not a bike expert at all but do take an interest in the technical details. It was interesting to hear the comments about brazing, and how opinions about its merits changed. I admit that the appearance of a bike (colour, frame shape, etc.) is what really matters to me. By the way, I like spokes on a bike wheel....yes, good old spokes!
Hi Roy, it’s fascinating listening to Graham he has a lifetime of actually being in the industry not just selling but also participating and supporting the road bike cycling industry. I’m sure we’ll be hearing more from him. Don’t you worry though I’ve still got some great restorations on the go 👍 Thanks for your support as always, all the best buddy
I’ve got a Raleigh Quadra, I would have liked to hear what Graham’s opinion is of it and if he’s got one in his amazing collection I enjoyed your restoration of one a while ago, many thanks to Graham for showing us his collection much appreciated.
Thanks again to you both for great piece. Graham's shop website says museum coming, any idea when ? The late great David Duffield (Eurosports commentator) was Raleigh's mktg director. Gerry Knettemans bike is at Brooklands Museum btw. Brown gum hoods are so cooool ! I won one of the first pink/white Dyna tech frames from Cycling Magazine at launch c 1988 - that mauve top end looks great btw. Best Raleigh I've ever seen is Laurent Fignons System U 1989 tdf stage 21 Paris time trial bike 2 disc wheel version. Love to see Dave Rayners (rip) banana 🍌 in the flesh.
Hi buddy, Graham Weigh's museum is at the shop to see in the flesh I just do not think they have updated the website. Completely agree about the time trail bike of Laurent Fignons absolutely stunning. Nice story about you winning the Raleigh Dyna-tech thanks for sharing.
The brown and silver striped Professional is a 71 and someone changed out some components , but it originally had full Nuevo record with 700 c sew ups Oh , it was the absolute top of the line Raliegh that year . You kept calling it the gran sport because of the incorrect CAMPY gran sport group set someone put on it but the real Gran Sport was a Reynolds main tubes and fork only and came with a French group set ,randaneu bars and 27 s
Thanks for sharing Andy, great Raleigh collection! I restored a 1962 Gran Sport (wish I hadn’t sold it), even finished off the handlebar tape with twine and covered it with shellac.
Hope seeing it wasn’t too bad and only gave you some happy memories. Better to of had than not at all. I like to think we own nothing in this life, we pay for the privilege to use and care for things before passing them on. Let’s hope it’s still out there going strong 🚴♂️
The Dyna-Tech name appeared at the same time that Raleigh started to offer bonded frames and these were available off-the-peg with steel or titanium main frame tubes. The steel frames used a range of Reynolds tubing that was similar to their standard (brazeable) 501, 531, 653 and 753 tubesets. The Dyna-Tech brand was not exclusively applied to bonded frames. The name was also used on conventional frames that were available as special order in steel and titanium.
@@BikeItUK Raleigh have such a rich history with involvement in some fascinating projects. Somebody needs to write a book before we loose the people that have those stories.
l love all the team colors and special metals used along with top groupos even modern ones on old bikes l like having lots of gears over the standard 5spds freewheels :)
It's almost certainly true that nobody is building frames spec'd for 27" wheels in 2022, but the availability of tires is pretty solid. It seems the resurgence in vintage bike interest more or less compelled smart tire makers to dust off those old molds.
during what might be considered a transition period, many brake calipers allowed for the use of both rim sizes; as it's only a difference of maybe a 1/4".
My first race bike was a gold Suntour Superbe. Sadly wrecked in a kermess crash when stationed in Belgium. Ended my short club racing career. Moved back to the US got a ‘screwed and glued’ Raleigh titanium frame. It defined ‘noodle’ with the tubing sourced from decommissioned Russian subs. Chainstay came unglued after a couple seasons. Warranty replaced with an RT 750 which was used on the road once. Harshest ride ever. Bought a Litespeed a couple weeks later. The RT has been on a succession of trainers since then. Not sure but I think the glued frames were made in the Kent Washington U.S. facility.
Dyna Tech 2070 was Reynolds 653 bonded into lugs, with the 2060 being 531, but I can’t remember if the 753 one was labelled 2080. I don’t recall them doing a carbon version, but they did do Ti and a metal matrix composite. The theory behind Dyna Tech was that bonding rather than brazing the frames would preserve more of the tube’s strength, hence using different code numbers rather than simply labelling them 531, 653 etc.
I bought two titanium raleigh dyna tech racing bikes new. At the time I was training and riding up to 300 miles per week. Both bikes cracked on the down tube circumferentially around the gear shifters and were then scrapped because of it in quite a short time as I remember. Not very good at all. I also owned from new a Raleigh Road Ace 531c with a full Shimano 600 groupset. That was a great bike and lasted many years. Eventually that broke as well through frame metal fatigue but considering the miles I did on it, it lasted much longer and was a very comfortable bike to ride and fast and light for it's era. I still have many bikes including my modern bikes like the Trek Speed Concept with 6/9 hed wheels, a cannondale super six evo sram red (6.8 kg) , a cannondale system six dura ace, an Arthur Caygill made to measure 753 tt bike with spinergy wheels on and a duplicate spare frame but my old faithfull TT bike is a Dunlop Hotta Perimeter TT bike with bladed reynolds forks and specialised tri spokes, with veloflex tyres also sporting a period Shimano 600, 8 speed groupset. This bike is now extremely rare. The Dunlop Hotta Perimeter frame was ridden by Jason Quely in his kilo win and Chris Newton for the McCartney team. This bike is one of the earliest examples of a uci compatible frame, in carbon fibre. It looks brand new still. I often raced against Chris Newton locally.
hey man, i just bought a Raleigh bike and I'm wondering what year is it. Is super difficult to tell since it preserves the original frame only. The only distinctive feature i can see its an R letter in the back of the frame. It might be similar to the 500 models, is there a way to know?
Professional can't be older than a 1972. It has the solid paint and the cursive Raleigh labeling. For sure a 1971-72 my Gran sport is a 1974. It was a full Reynolds touring bikes
Really interesting video. Loads of great bikes! Love vintage Raleigh road bikes. The designs are great and they’re just proper quality. That Raleigh professional with the Carlton logo was odd? Looked a lot older than 1980, but Raleigh didn’t take over Carlton till 80s, so must have been 80s. Want to get another Raleigh now haha
As i keep saying time and time again all manufactures could and should have a vintage section ? to their bike inventory. Why not you may ask? Well once the public would see and feel what a real racing was like that would finish carbon sloping bar shit for ever and they would be left with warehouses of bikes in Taiwan.
@@BikeItUK Joe and Jane public is responsible for the utter state of the bike market. Look at all the bike builders in the UK and Raleigh. All gone. All that sweat, labour and skill gone for ever in exchange for trashy carbon frames made by machines in communist countries like China and Taiwan which is technically china anyway. All these wonderful craftsmen's now either dead or on the dole. No one to pass their great skills onto. Tommasini in Italy is one of only a few places left that still specialise in steel. And their prices are reasonable compared to other manufactures. In regard to price and comparing it to a family car. If anything a bike should be cheaper today because most are coming from the far east where wages are tiny. If anything it's government taxes and bike companies profiting from fixing their prices by pretending there is a shortage when there clearly isn't. Everything today is a racket, we see it with the Covid scam, Ukraine scam, Climate scam. All this feeds into the great global rip off. People need to starting saying No!!!!! more and telling bike manufacturers that rip off for their products to piss off. People also need to learn the skill of fixing their own bikes. Children today cant even mend a puncture.
When I was a kid, I was poor and there was no way I could afford a Raleigh.
I knew a guy who had a Raleigh 753 TI.
It was so nice. He rode it for about 10yrs and then sold it. About 5yrs later he went to the guy and bought it back.
He had it completely re furnished to brand new. Now it just sits over his fireplace
Graham Weigh an absolute gentleman and legend, proud to call him a friend.
Yes he’s definitely a character your lucky to have him. Thanks for watching and the support
Had several lightweight Raleigh bikes. Good value, good handling bikes. Always wanted a dyna tech but never had one.
Definitely need to get a Dyna-tech on the channel. Thanks for your support 👍
I could watch and listen to Graham all day long. What an asset to all things cycling.
Thanks John much appreciated
Definitely my era, one of the first bikes I competed on was a Ti Raleigh professional, superb bike, also had a Falcon and a Carlton winter bike, raced with the Bell Bros a fare few times over those years, Port Sunlight evening chain gangs, brilliant times, still riding now 45 years on and the magic never goes away😀😀
Wow, thanks for sharing! 🚴 your right about the magic. It’s the one thing that’s becoming more important to me then anything else. All the best happy cycling buddy
Many thanks to Graham for sharing this collection, you finished on a real beauty.
Yes the 753 Team Raleigh is something else. It’s an absolute pleasure seeing Graham. Thanks for your support it’s much appreciated
Oooft. The colours on the Dynatech. 😍
Hard to copy the colour scheme on them, thanks for the support buddy
Hiding away in my parents garage is a lovely Raleigh competition that was built by the light weight shop for the Harrogate show many moons ago,1986 ish . It was made by Arthur gamble who we lost earlier this year . Most of my aunts and uncles worked at Raleigh
The Dyna Tech id truly beautiful!
Amazing colours, I definitely need to get one on the stand to restore
@@BikeItUK that would be crazy!
I always think the TI Raleigh team frame is the best looking frame/paint scheme EVER!
It’s definitely got a huge fan base, I think red and black make for a fast looking bike for sure 👍
As is the Belgium national jersey too imho. Light blue with the yellow/black/red. Btw the national colours in cycling came from the first motor races 100 plus years ago....Belgium choose light blue, Italy dark blue, France yellow, UK dark green, Germany white....only Belgium and Italy stuck with it !
Lovely collection! Thanks, Graham, for sharing! 👍🏻
Thanks for watching glad you like 👍
Really nice bikes 😁👍
Thanks for the support glad you like 👍
Great vid Andy, like you Raleigh is close to my heart so thanks to Graham for sharing is lovely collection
Glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching and your support
Great vid and history lesson, Andy!
I actually did my undergrad degree placement at Raleigh/Dynatech in 1993/4. We were looking at some of the structural characteristics of the bonded Ti frames, using very early CAD simulation/FEA methods.
I do this kind of work with loads of companies now, but I’ve got a real soft spot for the Dynatech frames we helped develop.
Thanks for watching and some great information thanks for your comment
Interesting! I have a Dynatech 755 Ti from around then in original condition (including tyres and tubes), so it's really interesting to learn more about the Dynatech story.
That Brown Raleigh with the 27" wheels was a strange beast! Almost tempted to say the Frame was from earlier times and restored and rebuilt. Unless Raleigh were trying to make old school new bikes and sell them to the retro loving type of club guys..
I thought the time period with all the clamp on parts and the Calton name was earlier 🤔 I’d have to research how long Raleigh continued the Carlton name for.
The whole feel of the bike was early 70s, especially the script style but there was obviously some restoration / renovation.
Really enjoyed that Andy, great content, love your films! Looking forward to the next one!
Thanks buddy we have loads coming up restorations and more collections thanks for the support
Fantastic, so much history. Thanks again for an enjoyable post 👍
Your welcome glad you enjoyed it
Lovely, lovely bikes! What a delight to see them! I am not a bike expert at all but do take an interest in the technical details. It was interesting to hear the comments about brazing, and how opinions about its merits changed.
I admit that the appearance of a bike (colour, frame shape, etc.) is what really matters to me. By the way, I like spokes on a bike wheel....yes, good old spokes!
Hi Roy, it’s fascinating listening to Graham he has a lifetime of actually being in the industry not just selling but also participating and supporting the road bike cycling industry. I’m sure we’ll be hearing more from him. Don’t you worry though I’ve still got some great restorations on the go 👍 Thanks for your support as always, all the best buddy
Oooohh that Panasonic,, drool 🤤
I know, I just wanted to jump on it 🚴♂️ thanks for watching buddy
Wonderful & educational ! Thank you very much !
Glad you enjoyed it thanks for your support 👍
I’ve got a Raleigh Quadra, I would have liked to hear what Graham’s opinion is of it and if he’s got one in his amazing collection I enjoyed your restoration of one a while ago, many thanks to Graham for showing us his collection much appreciated.
Thanks again to you both for great piece. Graham's shop website says museum coming, any idea when ?
The late great David Duffield (Eurosports commentator) was Raleigh's mktg director. Gerry Knettemans bike is at Brooklands Museum btw. Brown gum hoods are so cooool !
I won one of the first pink/white Dyna tech frames from Cycling Magazine at launch c 1988 - that mauve top end looks great btw.
Best Raleigh I've ever seen is Laurent Fignons System U 1989 tdf stage 21 Paris time trial bike 2 disc wheel version. Love to see Dave Rayners (rip) banana 🍌 in the flesh.
Hi buddy, Graham Weigh's museum is at the shop to see in the flesh I just do not think they have updated the website. Completely agree about the time trail bike of Laurent Fignons absolutely stunning. Nice story about you winning the Raleigh Dyna-tech thanks for sharing.
Thanks for this video. What an insight they give us all!
Glad you liked it much appreciated
Thanks guys
🙏
The brown and silver striped Professional is a 71 and someone changed out some components , but it originally had full Nuevo record with 700 c sew ups
Oh , it was the absolute top of the line Raliegh that year . You kept calling it the gran sport because of the incorrect CAMPY gran sport group set someone put on it but the real Gran Sport was a Reynolds main tubes and fork only and came with a French group set ,randaneu bars and 27 s
Correct!
Thanks for sharing Andy, great Raleigh collection! I restored a 1962 Gran Sport (wish I hadn’t sold it), even finished off the handlebar tape with twine and covered it with shellac.
Hope seeing it wasn’t too bad and only gave you some happy memories. Better to of had than not at all. I like to think we own nothing in this life, we pay for the privilege to use and care for things before passing them on. Let’s hope it’s still out there going strong 🚴♂️
@@BikeItUK Very true! 👍👊 No bad memories. It turned out really nice.
The Dyna-Tech name appeared at the same time that Raleigh started to offer bonded frames and these were available off-the-peg with steel or titanium main frame tubes. The steel frames used a range of Reynolds tubing that was similar to their standard (brazeable) 501, 531, 653 and 753 tubesets. The Dyna-Tech brand was not exclusively applied to bonded frames. The name was also used on conventional frames that were available as special order in steel and titanium.
Thanks for watching and sharing your knowledge it’s much appreciated interesting stuff. Many thanks
@@BikeItUK Raleigh have such a rich history with involvement in some fascinating projects.
Somebody needs to write a book before we loose the people that have those stories.
@@petetrundell5454 definitely 👍
Andy when are we next going to see your own bikes? Love a updated bike check video, especially to see what’s still in the collection and what’s gone.
Definitely could be a quick video that 👍
great video andy - i had 2 bikes from Graham in early 90's great fella and business
Yes he’s a top guy, definitely revisiting to cover more brands and topic
Hello there Andy..... and what a great story about Raleigh corner
Thank you for sharing it with us
Best regards always......Rudy
Thanks as always Rudy glad you enjoyed it. I’ve got a great Gazelle restoration up next….watch this space
l love all the team colors and special metals used along with top groupos even modern ones on old bikes l like having lots of gears over the standard 5spds freewheels :)
Glad you enjoyed them thanks for the support and watching all the best
Brilliant 👍🏻
Thanks 🙏
It's almost certainly true that nobody is building frames spec'd for 27" wheels in 2022, but the availability of tires is pretty solid. It seems the resurgence in vintage bike interest more or less compelled smart tire makers to dust off those old molds.
Yes I’ve definitely got to agree with you 😉👍
during what might be considered a transition period, many brake calipers allowed for the use of both rim sizes; as it's only a difference of maybe a 1/4".
@@carlosgaspar8447 4mm.
Yes. Motobecane did a Duralinox frame in the early 80’s. I had a Raleigh Professional in 83. everything was clip-clip on. Team colours though….🚴🏿♂️
Interesting thank f or the comment and information
Would like to see that Lambretta GP!
Maybe one for a later video
I worked at a Raleigh dealership near Nottingham in the early 90s.
I hope the video brought back some happy memories. Thanks for watching
70's the professional? Great video thanks
🤔 I think so….thanks for watching and your support
My first race bike was a gold Suntour Superbe. Sadly wrecked in a kermess crash when stationed in Belgium. Ended my short club racing career. Moved back to the US got a ‘screwed and glued’ Raleigh titanium frame. It defined ‘noodle’ with the tubing sourced from decommissioned Russian subs. Chainstay came unglued after a couple seasons. Warranty replaced with an RT 750 which was used on the road once. Harshest ride ever. Bought a Litespeed a couple weeks later. The RT has been on a succession of trainers since then. Not sure but I think the glued frames were made in the Kent Washington U.S. facility.
Thanks for watching and sharing your knowledge
Top andy ✌️
Thanks buddy
Dyna Tech 2070 was Reynolds 653 bonded into lugs, with the 2060 being 531, but I can’t remember if the 753 one was labelled 2080. I don’t recall them doing a carbon version, but they did do Ti and a metal matrix composite.
The theory behind Dyna Tech was that bonding rather than brazing the frames would preserve more of the tube’s strength, hence using different code numbers rather than simply labelling them 531, 653 etc.
Many for all this knowledge that is coming through. It’s much appreciated thanks for watching and you comment
My first bike back in the early 80's was a Raleigh Arena 5spd.
I remember them, hope it brought back some happy memories. Thanks for watching
Same!
I bought two titanium raleigh dyna tech racing bikes new. At the time I was training and riding up to 300 miles per week. Both bikes cracked on the down tube circumferentially around the gear shifters and were then scrapped because of it in quite a short time as I remember.
Not very good at all. I also owned from new a Raleigh Road Ace 531c with a full Shimano 600 groupset. That was a great bike and lasted many years. Eventually that broke as well through frame metal fatigue but considering the miles I did on it, it lasted much longer and was a very comfortable bike to ride and fast and light for it's era.
I still have many bikes including my modern bikes like the Trek Speed Concept with 6/9 hed wheels, a cannondale super six evo sram red (6.8 kg) , a cannondale system six dura ace, an Arthur Caygill made to measure 753 tt bike with spinergy wheels on and a duplicate spare frame but my old faithfull TT bike is a Dunlop Hotta Perimeter TT bike with bladed reynolds forks and specialised tri spokes, with veloflex tyres also sporting a period Shimano 600, 8 speed groupset. This bike is now extremely rare. The Dunlop Hotta Perimeter frame was ridden by Jason Quely in his kilo win and Chris Newton for the McCartney team. This bike is one of the earliest examples of a uci compatible frame, in carbon fibre. It looks brand new still. I often raced against Chris Newton locally.
Wow 😯 sounds like some collection you’ve got there. Thanks so much for sharing with us especially your Dyna-tech experience. Much appreciated 😉👍
hey man, i just bought a Raleigh bike and I'm wondering what year is it. Is super difficult to tell since it preserves the original frame only. The only distinctive feature i can see its an R letter in the back of the frame. It might be similar to the 500 models, is there a way to know?
If you are on Facebook search for the Raleigh bike group, post an image on there you’ll get your answer no problem, hope this helps
24:26 - My first bike - not Reynolds but the exact livery.
Hope it brought back some great memories for you. Thanks for watching
Professional can't be older than a 1972. It has the solid paint and the cursive Raleigh labeling. For sure a 1971-72 my Gran sport is a 1974. It was a full Reynolds touring bikes
Thanks for watching and your knowledge 👍
Had a 1984 Kuahara. Wish that I had never gotten rid of it.
Better to of had than not at all though my friend. Thanks for watching 👍
About the Raleigh frame with the name 'Fignon' on it. Was this frame once used for a bike that Laurent Fignon actually rode?
Hi thanks for watching, I don't believe it was
I heard of someone having their Raleigh glued-frame powercoated. Unfortunately, when he came to collect it, it fell into a pile of tubes! 😱
🤔 the heat from the power coating would of affected the glue no doubt. Oh dear you would be gutted
Fascinating video, great work, but please please please blow the tyres up!! 😉
Glad you liked it we’ll keep it in mind for the next one ☝🏻
Really interesting video. Loads of great bikes!
Love vintage Raleigh road bikes. The designs are great and they’re just proper quality.
That Raleigh professional with the Carlton logo was odd?
Looked a lot older than 1980, but Raleigh didn’t take over Carlton till 80s, so must have been 80s.
Want to get another Raleigh now haha
Interesting point about when Raleigh took Carlton over 🤔 must of been the 80’s then. Glad you enjoyed it thanks for the support and watching 👍
New sub ! Liked 🚀🚀😀❤️🙏
Nice one buddy many thanks
I thought the Professional was a hand built bike? Those were very expensive back in '74. As I recall, they were about $700.
🤔you maybe correct. $700 in 74 was very expensive.
How about some Hetchins Bates ect
🤔I’ll keep it in mind 👍
The bike he doesn't have is the Raleigh Olympic USA Team.
😉👍
Brill video guys - how cool is Graham's scooter btw?! Ace Face eat your heart out 🛵
Ace face, love it 😂 Thanks for watching and your support glad you enjoyed it 👍
As i keep saying time and time again all manufactures could and should have a vintage section ? to their bike inventory. Why not you may ask? Well once the public would see and feel what a real racing was like that would finish carbon sloping bar shit for ever and they would be left with warehouses of bikes in Taiwan.
It’s also the cost of an average race bike these days. The price now of these road bikes is the same as a brand new car ten years ago.
@@BikeItUK Joe and Jane public is responsible for the utter state of the bike market. Look at all the bike builders in the UK and Raleigh. All gone. All that sweat, labour and skill gone for ever in exchange for trashy carbon frames made by machines in communist countries like China and Taiwan which is technically china anyway. All these wonderful craftsmen's now either dead or on the dole. No one to pass their great skills onto. Tommasini in Italy is one of only a few places left that still specialise in steel. And their prices are reasonable compared to other manufactures. In regard to price and comparing it to a family car. If anything a bike should be cheaper today because most are coming from the far east where wages are tiny. If anything it's government taxes and bike companies profiting from fixing their prices by pretending there is a shortage when there clearly isn't. Everything today is a racket, we see it with the Covid scam, Ukraine scam, Climate scam. All this feeds into the great global rip off. People need to starting saying No!!!!! more and telling bike manufacturers that rip off for their products to piss off. People also need to learn the skill of fixing their own bikes. Children today cant even mend a puncture.
I was definitely more interested in the professional than your guest.
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the Raleigh’s
Ill give £50 for the dyna tech
😂thanks for watching all the best 👍
Raleigh Pulsar anybody lol.
Sure I’ve done one of them on the channel 🤔
And a Quasar!
Das sind Fahrräder und keine Motorräder😂 ein Mensch ist kein Motor! Wer übersetzt so einen Unsinn!,,,,! Die Bikes sind Toll!
Glad you liked the bikes 👍
And then the Rivets in the head badge. Ugly!
Early models, like on most manufacturers 👍🚲🚲🚲🚲