London Underground 1938 Tube Stock back on the Metropolitan Line (Westbound) | 160th Anniversary
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- A video of the third and final London Underground 1938 Tube Stock special service of 2023, to celebrate the iconic train network's 160th Anniversary.
Filmed along the North-Western branch of the Metropolitan Line between Harrow on the Hill, Amersham and Watford stations, as the 1938 Stock train passes Eastcote, Rickmansworth, Chorleywood, Chalfont and Latimer, Croxley and Moor Park. Also featuring a few cameos of recent S8 Stock trains, first used in 2010.
Filmed on Sunday 10th September 2023.
RTP Media 2024
I used to visit my grandmother in London from Nottingham in 1951 when I was five. I was shoved in the guard's compartment with the guard who was given half a crown. I remember vividly going through Harrow on the Hill. My grandmother would then meet me in the London Terminus and give the guard another half crown! The guards often let me look out the side observation windows. I have loved railways ever since!!
My family left London when i was 4 and i forgot about the tube until i revisited 14 years later. In that interval as a child i never understood what it was that was missing when i was taken through an underpass walkway in the north of England. It was only when i went back to London that first time i realised it was the escalators down to the platform, the warm rush of air when the tube train came into the station, the doors, the next carriage along dancing and darting around in the little window at the end, the deep green and wood and the acceleration noise of the motors, the tube map on the wall of the car and the (then) leather strap loops moving as the train bobbed around. Nothing like it. I was gutted when the last 38 stock were replaced by those grey things in the late 70s
1938 stock was absolutely the best ever.
I remember as a child, when the train stopped, a noisy compressor started running!
Thank you for this great memory. I was lucky enough to be on the Amersham to Watford train, thank to my little sister buying a pair of tickets. It was part of the Amersham Heritage transport day. They have running old green line buses and static classic are and steam vehicles.
Unless I’m mistaken, these trains were used on the Island line on the Isle of Wight, until very recently.
I remember when I was a little kid in the 1950s , how I would travel with my dad on a Sunday morning to Uxbridge depot station and all the 1938 stock would be lined up
Ready to go out how much
I miss seeing that now..
That red train reminds me of the stock we had in Toronto in the 1970s. Not exactly the same, but all red.
0:43 Kid walking past that wonderful train staring at his 'Smart' phone!
And lots of young people on the platforms not noticing it either, staring into theirs as well.
Evocative! Excellent work - thank you!
We have this a lot at Ongar where I live as used to be the start of the central line we also get a lot of the old route masters that operate a route 339 3-4 days a week
When going home with my Grandparents from Plaistow to East Ham in the late 70s my Nan wanted to wait for a red train. She did not like the district trains and we must have been waiting for a metropolitan line now H&C.
Sorry I missed seeing it in person.. Took me back to my days taking the bakerloo line to school.
Seeing the Met Line steam stock on display triggered a sight that used to stand outside King's Cross Station - the 'Annie' and 'Clarabel' pullman carriages. Where are they now?
Great video!! Love the sparks 😍
I love the 38 stock tube trains they were my first ever memories - on the Piccadilly line back in late 50's. How do you find out about these heritage days, who ru s them and how do you get tickets?
Some heritage tours are run by the London Transport Museum
@@TrevorMcGregger thanks. Will check it out maybe they will have a mailing list
The motors sound just has good out in the open air as they did in the tunnels!.
they must have upgraded the traction equiptment on the 38 stock as the whole met is now 750 v dc
I am not sure that would be necessary - DC stock is often quite insensitive to voltage, taking only what's needed if higher and speed-limited if lower - but I don't know specifics in this case!
No the 1938 stock used to run to Watford Junction and the voltage is slightly higher north of Queens Park.
@@davidchilds9590Just gives a livelier performance
@@davidchilds9590 A device will take as much current as it needs, but if the voltage is too high, damage will result. You can connect your 120 volt 1 amp electric razor to a 100-amp 120 volt source and it will take 1 amp. Connect it to a 220 volt source and.... Poof!
THERE IS NO NEED TO DO SO
As with many older vehicles it has a design more stylish than the modern versions - especially the interiors. Does anyone know what caused the distinctive whining sound?
AS THE MOTOR GET GOING AND WIND DOWN TO STOP AFTER ALL THEY ARE STILL TURNING WHEN COSTING AND BRAKING EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT DRAWING THE DC CURRENT THE TICK - TICK - TICK NOISE YOU HEAR IS THE BRAKERS CLOSING AS THE CURRENT IS FED INTO THE MOTORS VIA THE MASTER CONTROLLER WHICH THE DRIVER TURNS AND CONTAINS THE DEADMAN DEVICE THE CONTROLLER HAS 16 BRAKERS FOR THE TRAIN TO GO THROUGH TO REACH MAX POWER OR FULL PARREL LIKE GEARS ON A CAR THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS WERE AVAILABLE REVERSE. OFF. INCH. SERIES , FORWARD 1 FORWARD 2 NORTHERN LINE TRAINS WERE THE ONLY TRAINS ALLOWED TO HAVE ALL MOTORS RUNNING UP TO PARREL WHILE ALL OTHER TRAINS HAD ONE MOTOR THAT WAS RESTRICTED TO SERIES ONLY UNLESS THEY USED THE WEAKFIELD FLAG SWITCH ON THE BIGGER TRAINS, HOPE THAT HELPS
That must be nice area were they have that old train model displayed near the start. If that was were i live it would be smashed up and covered in graffiti and them flowers destroyed 😔
Looks like some posh village, honestly if that was on display where I live it would be smashed to bits and ripped apart. Sadly I feel like there are a lot of people within places in the UK who don't have any respect for its heritage.
ITS ON A RAIL TOUR THIS SATURDAY FROM AMERSHAM SO YOU MIGHT GET TO SEE IT SOMETIME ON ITS WAY TO AMERSHAM
IV GOT A FRIEND DOING THE TOUR
@@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of Hello, thanks for getting in touch. Sadly I work full-time over most weekends, so often miss a lot of special events, but I may get lucky next year if they do some more.
@@rtpmedia I THINK THIS MAYBE THE VERY LAST ONE BECAUSE OF THE SIGNALLING I HOPE NOT
I DID ENJOY DRIVING THEM ON THE NORTHERN LINE
It’s not until you see it side by side with the modern stock that you realise how small the 38 stock is.
The modern stock in this film is not tube stock. This and its predecessor A60 stock only ran on the surface or in the taller”cut & cover” tunnels whereas the 38 tube stock was designed to run in deep - level tube tunnels which are much smaller.
I wish I had kept my notebooks from train crew days in the 80s. It’s pretty certain I have driven this unit when they returned to the Northern line on the mid 80s. I’m pretty sure the compressors have been upgraded - I’m sure they had a different sound and a slower “beat” much like the 59/62 stocks where this one sounds more like the 72 stock compressors.
Some fantastic shots there
Especially 17:35
I didn't think they were allowed out of the tunnels, that's how I remember them?!🧐
Yes, they used to operate regularly on the open air sections (and the tunnels) on the Northern, Bakerloo and Piccadilly lines plus Drayton Park Station and the East London Line, where Shoreditch was in the open, and Surrey Docks (now Surrey Quays), New Cross and New Cross Gate.
@@ianmcclavin yes Ian, I did know that, I just meant it tongue in cheek but thanks for replying. 😄🧐
@@johntyjp My thoughts was maybe this one was hiding in a tunnel all this time and just wanted top see the sun again. Like you, I know that is not true either :)
NO THEY DID RUN IN THE OPEN A GOOD DEAL OF THE TUBE IS OUT IN THE OPEN
Nice video, but this is what 14 years of austerity have done to London Underground stations outside of Central London.
I couldn't ignore the state of Harrow on the Hill station - peeling paint everywhere. This is what outer London Underground stations looked like in the late 80's and early 90's!
But the mayor's hands are effectively tied, due to the stance and policies of the government. The Tories have never properly understood that public transport needs constant investment..... especially in a large city like London.
The trains and stations experience quicker wear and tear than conventional above ground National Rail trains and stations. Due to the greater volumes of people using them.
Maybe a Labour win at the next election will see this deadlock, and refusal to fund properly - being lifted? This is imperative for a large capital city such as London. Please let's not let our outer London Tube stations get any tattier and run down. They NEED to have investment in them.
EVEN LONGER THAN THAT IN THE 1970 FUNNY MAN SPIKE MILIGAN PAYED FOR THE REPAINTING OF ALL 7 STATIONS
OUT IN THE OPEN ON THE HIGH BARNET BRANCH FROM EAST FINCHLEY BE CAUSE LONDON TRANSPORT WOULD NOT PAY FOR IT TO BE DONE HAS NOT BEEN DONE SINCE
I don't think that 1938 stock was used on the Metropolitan line.
The section from Rayners Lane To Uxbridge is shared between the Met and Piccadilly lines.
I remember it on the bakerloo line.
The platforms seem much too high for it unless they were raised at some point.
@@dieselhead24 There are shots of the train at Eastcote which is on the Uxbridge branch of the Met line. If you ever need to board a Piccadilly line train there you will have to step quite a way down as the platform height is aligned with the Met line trains.
WERE THEY SHARED THE LINE WITH OTHER LIINES,
AND IM SHORE I WHEN I WAS A CHILD WENT TO WATFORD JUNCTION / CROXLY / CROXLY GREEN STN USING A 38
Door open at 2.32. Is that a reminder of the new fangled elf n safety?
I notice this also, I thought would a alarm telling a driver a door is open so they closed it. Luckily there was no members of public on the train, just train crew on the train
Door alarm? These babies fight even have a speedo on the cab! No door would be open in passenger service except for the single leaf door at the Guards position ( the single door at the leading end of the rear car) on leaving a platform Guards were required to observe the 2/3 of platform length as the train departed before closing that door which with the guards position key in that end of the train would operate independently of the rest of the train doors.
Gosh War!! 😂 thanks for the wealth of info and positive reply 😊
@@kevanwebb6086 I was lucky enough to drive these in service in the mid 80s. To get to driver in those days you had to first qualify as a guard. Only one rolling stock that I have driven remains in service today - the 72s on the Bakerloo line. We’re also had them in the 80s on the Northern.