Better camera with Real Head Motion? Try it! | Tutorial / Guide | ACC
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- Always struggled a bit with the camera view from ACC because of the shaking. I never really was able to dial it out with the onboard filters. I think "Real Head Motion" does a great job to provide a better and smoother viewing experience - but check it out yourself, and see if you like it. This is a little tutorial/guide on how to install it and brief explanation of the settings.
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awesome job, do u have github page for us to download ur tool?
super cool. safe to assume there is no benefit in VR?
Hey, playing the dumb part here, but does this app do anything for ppl like me who prefer a fixed dash cam (to correspond with the real life fixed wheel) and let the ingame world do the movement? (in ACC this would be 100% Movement and 0% LtH). I tried a few things but it does not seem to be the case. Not quite sure tho.
everytime i click the zip file link i get an error code
@neitola thank you
Simracer and eardoctor this Guy is amazing
Gotta diversify these days! 😂
Thx for the video! It’s all great but where’s the final part of the DD bases comparison?!!?!?!?! I’m dying to hear your final thoughts 💭
#soon
@@DanSuzuki ....waiting impatiently....
thank you
Can we have the csl dd vid now, I don't feel like waiting for Friday haha. But thanks this was a good vid
isnt that what "lock to horizon" in game settings do?
Nope
@@DanSuzuki I thought so too, what is the difference?
try it out, then you know :) it's hard to describe, but lock to horizon feels significantly different @@blamasterk
FINALLY, a major TH-camr picked this up!! It's night & day for me. So much more natural with RHM. (Also weird that Kunos are the only developer not doing this by default - when otherwise, they are so good!)
so we have Dalking filter, then 8:25 is "Jimmer in Praga after an hour" filter :D
I tried this out, installed fine and when I checked the camera.json file it already had TrackIR=1 so all good.
Changed the in-game settings then went with your parameters. For a few minutes it was fine but then suddenly the screen started glitching, large artefacts appearing whilst driving.
Turned off DLSS and reduced some of the graphical settings (RTX4090 + 64GB RAM) but still the same. I'll try again tonight after work (and a reboot) but sadly so far not been a good experience.
Wow, just tried this... I actually might enjoy ACC now.. The camera bouncing all over the place drove me crazy before. Did a few laps and felt faster and more consistent now that I can actually see where I am going. Wish I knew about this sooner.
I just tried RHM, I can't believe what an improvement this is over default head motion in ACC. I was getting headaches from ACC camera, but this instantly resolved it.
Thank you Dan for the heads up. This has made a massive difference, i always felt sick after a short stint in ACC, not anymore. Also a big thanks to the original author.
I could not drive in acc without rhm honestly, i use even stronger filter settings to really smooth it out with only slight movements. The standard acc camera movement really throws me off and it is harder for me to identify track markers etc. with rhm the view is stable and not annoyingly jittery, especially on some bouncy tracks. I'm using 89% pitch and 12% roll filter. Rhm also has look option where you can fine tune the left and right look with button presses, available under "look options" lower right hand corner.
Funnily enough, I don't like the iRacing camera style because I feel disconnected from the car, whereas I don't have that feeling on ACC. So essentially this makes it more like iRacing doesn't it?
same, I always set all head movements to 0 otherwise I feel disconnected from the car and it feels weird
For anyone using the SFX-100 motion system (or any motion system for that matter) - I've found RHM to be a total game changer for immersion. Thank you so much for sharing!
this sounds like what ive been trying to fix..
RHM is a must for me when not driving in VR
Ok that just saved me asking the question 👍🏾
Have you tried in VR? Is there any benefit?
@@AshKnight it will not work in VR
The only reason why i dont like AC/ACC Rfactor and other sims. In iRacing it feels so natural and its one of the many reasons why i prefer iRacing over any sims on the market.
Thank you Dan to bring this up !.
Only graphics need an Upgrade. My Gameboy Looks better than iracing 😋
Absolutely couldn't live without this on triples! I always use this in ACC. Strangely, it actually doesn't have that positive an effect to me in your video, perhaps because of the narrower view. I can't understand how people could drive in triples without this tho, I get a headache in minutes if I forget about it. Will definitely donate to the creator of this because I probably couldn't enjoy my favourite game without it :)
ACC should implement this in graphic options - without i can’t play ACC
Thanks for the info! I had RHM for AC and didn't know it was available for ACC as well. Maybe then I can give ACC another try. ;) I must look if RHM is also available for Automobilista 2 and Dirt Rally 2.0... My favorite sim rFactor 2 is perfect out of the box.
I found a disconnection between AMS2 FFB and head movement. Or just the head movement, I don't know.
rF2 is indeed the king here.
Thanks Dan, a great video about a really usefull tool.
I am using it for a few month now and cannot drive wthout anymore.
Just one thing to mention, it only works in Dash Cam View. All other views are not affected.
Here are my settings:
Pitch Filter: 85%
Rol Filter: 15%
Steering Smotting: 100%
G Accel Smothing: 100% (because I don't like the movement under breaking or exelleration)
My goal was to get an locked track and an almost locked car.
Well, there is a hint in the FAQ section at the bottom of the ACC forum post that Dan linked here, which says "It only works in dashcam view and not cockpit view[:]
Try setting both Lock To Horizon and Look With Wheel to zero." - I don't know if that makes any difference for you.
Super useful, I didn't realize how annoying the head movement is without RHM until I saw your video! THANK YOU!
Why aren't you linking to the version you're actually using? Really confusing trying to follow your guide.
The first link is the one I’m using ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This completely changed the game for me. I love ACC driving physics but couldn't get used to the shaking and blur. Now I can finally enjoy it. Thank you!
Kind of weird ACC does not give you that option standaard
In the forum page where you redirect us to download they say latest version is 1.0.4.2, which can be found there. How come you appear to have 1.0.6.0? Also, 1.0.4.2 misses "Run ACC when RHMS starts"
Great Video Dan! I abandoned ACC the day I bought it because I could not get the camera to stop making me feel nauseous with in game settings alone. I think this will save ACC for me. THANK YOU!
And now you made 17.800 shaked their heads, are you happy?
Can anyone help I have followed the instructions exactly, but it doesn't work for me. Smoetimes as I am changing the slider, I can see my view changing but it just locks to the view and as I drive there is no movement.
Still need to find nicer implementations that mimics rF2.
I also like ACC and AMS2 as simulators, but the feeling like driving a real car, I only get that in rF2. There is something to synchronous head movement and FFB than gives me the most emmersive experience in rF2.
We can see here in Dan's Imola example, the car doesn't care about curbs, as if they were not there. In rF2, there is a head smoothess until you hit a significant curb - then the car/head move in a realistically way. Doesn't seem to be there yet in ACC.
All in all, better to have RHM to tweak than nothing.
The reason you get shake issues is because of all the false claims and software about FOV!!!!!! If you go sit in your real car have a look at what you can see, learn what's in your eyeline, what's in your peripheral? Now set all your sims up accordingly. No need for FOV calculators. No need for add ons like this. Simples.
Your brain will understand to ignore the bounces as they do in real life.
I'd always wondered what Oulton Park looked like haha. Thanks Dan, great video
Anyone find this makes them feel the weight transfer better?
I struggle with how much load im transferring to road...
Thank you Dan! I thought the "Lock to Horizon" in the View Settings is exactly that? If you keep the head movement to 0% while just playing with the "Lock to Horizon" the car will bump up and down while your view is fixed. It would have been interesting to see a comparison of the RHM and the ingame Horizon Lock - if and what the notable differences are :) Personally, I have not really noticed the shakiness or it did not really bother me so far... but it does now after your comparison shots ^-^ I have to check if I now notice it more while driving... to me, it is (or was) somehow part of the immersion in simracing as nothing is moving, the rig is fixed, I am not in a car... but if I would in one, I always imagine it to shake around because of vibrations and stuff so I see this as simulation of it... oh god, another thing to try and adapt, does this never end?? ^-^
Lock to horizon comes close to RHM when the track in general is very flat like Silverstone or Sebring. But when you have tracks where you drive up a hill, with lock to horizon you watch at your pedals. And you see the roof when driving down the hill. With RHM, you always look straight out of your car - as it should be. Try it at the steepest track you know. :)
@@driflysh4597 you just need to dial lock to horizon back to small percentage
@@robertosantoro9685 I tried all settings, at least in AMS2 (pretty sure ACC as well, but it's been a while...). It's either too shaky or not tied to car axis. rF2 and others get it right...
is the download link broken for anyone else?
"You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action.". ok great.
You need to log in 😅
@@DanSuzuki already logged in. :D
@@theChramoX I had to link my account to my steam account and wait 10 min for it to allow me to download the file.
@@dl8696 that worked. thanks
Didn’t know about this. Finally I’m gonna enjoy ac as much as iracing, hated the bumpiness in AC
Thanks so much for this video! Game changer for my driving experience.
Thank you! Now I can play without motion sickness.
Great shout on RHM, after seeing your side by side video it was so clear what was wrong with the ACC view and I couldn't put my finger on it till then. Installed and never looking back again
Thanks, something else to look into!
The default view seems to be more stable
Sure would be nice to be able to download this...
Same here, did you get it working?
I love the way I stumble across things that makes my simracing experience better.....why do I have to stumble across them!... the jumping display has always bugged me in ACC, surely Kunos could setup something like this themselves? Looking forward to trying this thank you
I think the ''steer look ahead setting'' ., is more for single screen(if you like this setting).. its the same setting as.. look to apex.
Thanks for this vid.. its verry helpfull.. thmbs UP!!!
Just downloaded this Dan an it make a much better experience. Thanks so much for sharing. Would you know if there is any new versions and where would we get them? Thanks and keep up the good content both via Streaming and TH-cam videos. Look forward to future content. :)
Cool, will try it.. thanking!
Also, for those w lower end rigs like me, it could improve FPS/AA/Sharpness as the image won't have to be recalculated and repositioned every frame as with the shakes?
Nice
BUT it must be said; all the sims are wrong. Golf MK2 rally car (tarmac spec), race kart, bmx, dh mountainbike... none of it makes my view shake like what we see in sims. it's between a lot less and no shaking.
Thanks for making this video. I am late to the party and I hope this RHM app works for me
I have always disliked the amount of camera shake in ACC, AMS2, and RRRE. I remember seeing a video of Anthony Davidson (British racing driver) whose major complaint about sims for public consumption was the overuse of "camera shake" effect that is not realistic. Davidson is right on target since he is currently a simdriver for the Mercedes-AMG F1 team and a reallife driver who has raced F1 cars, GT3 cars, and currently races LMP2 cars.
I’ll give this a try tonight. Thanks Dan. 🙏 New subscriber as well! You keep it up! 😊👋
I totally lean in all my corners. Must be hereditary, my dad used to go shift side to side playing Galaga
Awesome finally... This is why I've never played ACC. The way things move around each other and the head motion makes the game unplayable.
Is there any way for the head to move but outside the car? hood camera for example.
I can’t use any, I hate iracing neck movement, feels so fake so I turn it all off
I like AC, but ACC and Automoblista 2 shakes too much!
I did not see this question posted here before, so did you realize this plugin to have an effect on the framerate?
So… having PS5 I play with Lock to Horizon?
Good to have an app that essentially allows an editable ' helmet' view. Thanks for the vid Dan.
have you done anything like this for iracing ? could you show your ir settings as well? maybe rf2 too ?
how can i set this, to make feels like iracing neck motion? anyone knows?
Hey Dan , danke für das Video ist echt der Wahnsinn was das für einen Unterschied macht. Ist jetzt viel entspannter und einfacher zu fahren :)
This looks like it could be a game changer for me. I've never been totally happy in ACC and couldn't quite put a finger on what I didn't like about it. This could well be it.
This is fantastic made a huge difference to me, because I can see better without becoming disoriented I'm now doing faster times!
This is working only with dashboard cam rights?
wont lie your settings were perfect for me personally ty for this
Thanks Dan, now I can drive ACC without motion sickness!
moin, du redest ne ewigkeit und das wesentliche hällst du für millisekunden im bild für uns fest fest :D
Is this still nice for 1.9 think i will Dl when get home
Side by side, what differences am I missing?
Awesome! So much better.. Thank you 🙏🏽
Can't make it work. It's starts up an starts up acc fine. I can see in the debug window that it's running. But when I move the sliders nothing happens? What am I doing wrong? Best Regards
same for me!
Have u drive a real race car ? U will never see everything smooth and clear , everything shakes and bounce in a real car , so it is much more realistic the original acc cam , but no problem for me if you want to fake the real view and you prefer an easier game
You maybe want to get your ears or eyes checked then 😅 Here is a read for you: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestibulo-ocular_reflex
awesome video thx :)
how can i safe my settings in RHM? evry time when i start RHM my settings are gone...
Try launching it as admin
much more consistent with this than before. and its really less stress to drive. NICE! thanks man!
Hi there, nice Explanation... but I got two questions. 1. can I use it with TrackIR5, because I drive with TrackIR5? 2. What is the "Look to Horizon" in ACC do... isn't it the same as this Mod?
No it's not the same, it works much better! I don't think you can use this when you actually use a TrackIR - but try it out :D
Hello. Do you have bounciness of the car while you use TrackIR? I use delanclip+opentrack and it disable car movement. I hate it. Thanks in advance
Based on the video, I'm having a difficult time seeing the difference bewtween RHM vs just adding a little Lock to Horizon. Can you explain the difference as if I am 4?
But - how may 4 year olds can read 🤔
Try it out :) it’s super easy to setup then you’ll immediately see the difference.
@@DanSuzuki OK, it was super easy to setup. Sorry for doubting you. lol It seems really nice so far. Side note, I used 100% Dalking filter in Pcars 2. It took weeks to get used to it and it was absolutely not worth it. 😅 It was actually Look to Apex, so maybe a little different.
just get trackir 10 times better.
Great video, Dan. However, the link provided no longer allows you to download, saying you don't have permissions. I even created an account on this forum and still cannot download. Someone else made a post at the bottom of the thread saying they can't download either but nobody responded to them.
I just tested the link - works just fine for me, at least the ACC version. If you want to manually go there in the Assetto COrsa forums:
Home Forums > Assetto Corsa Competizione - PC VERSION > ACC Tools
@@DanSuzuki Thanks for the reply, Dan. I linked my Steam account to the forum and it then recognized I had a licensed ACC version and the download worked! Thank you
Think I may give this ago, thanks Dan
Hey Dan, nutzt du diese verlinkten Inear-Kopfhörer auch ingame?
Jup
Dan great info once again. Any chance of you going over your iraing setting for head motion and horizon tilt?
Will this work for VR?
Nice video Dan, just tried this and its way better then the "lock to horizon" that i had enabled!! And btw last week i saw someone mentioning your brake hack in the chat (Twitch) is there a video of that somewhere as well?
Not really a „hack“ - just add like 30-40% deadzone on the top end to get it similar to iRacing (if you’re used to that) 😅
@@DanSuzuki Ah i see how it works, thanks for the reply ;)
@@DanSuzukihe's referring too the video where you show people how edit the files so when you press your brake 100% the sim only sees a certain % lime 70 or 80%. Cheating imo
Big improvement
Why did u set up other settings then recommended on the website?
well, because everything is personal preference :)
@@DanSuzuki Ah okay :) Followed your setup, thanks for the video!
Love RHM! Couple of things somewhat interesting:
a) The ACC version of RHM also works with AC1
b) The "Look Options" in RHM allows axis to be assigned to look left/right. This may be interesting for some wheel owners who have a mini-joystick on their wheel (IIRC ACC only allows buttons to be assigned to look left/right)
c) the reason you needed to run RHM as admin was probably because you extracted it outside of your user directory -> running RHM inside your user directory (like Desktop/Documents/Downloads) should've worked as well
for assetto corsa competizione says i dont have permission... im assuming is "free" after you donate to download? so ya, no go for me
No it’s free. You just need to login
@@DanSuzuki weird i am logged in, keeps saying i have no permission to view this page or perform this action... the one for assetto corsa downloads immediately... oh well no big deal
@@Patrik.Pereira I had the same problem. What helped was doing a posting.
@@DanSuzuki ok figured it out, had to associate my steam account....
@@hrbednarz +1
Excellent video Dan!
so no VR? hm
thank you
S’mooooore of this insanity
why can't these gaming companies simply make games without requiring a hundred different settings; why can't their games simply work without inducing motion sickness? They should lean more toward the Apple model and less toward the MS-DOS model.
Did you say this was a fairly easy install?? Lmao
I mean ... it is 😅 Are you having issues with it?
@@DanSuzuki I haven’t tried yet, but when your pc illiterate mostly every software install doesn’t come easy lol
thanks
Nice a sim for inside a sim
although it's actually something I didn't know I needed! thx
Looks amazing!
Interesting.
Nice to know this exists. You may want to look into your monitors also. I recently switched to triple screens 2 months ago. Here is how I got there. I already had a BenQ EX3203R and I noticed a lot of bouncing before the Bridge on ACC @ Silverstone. Best way to describe it is like a car having extra travel without shocks. Bouncing like the rebound control broke. So I tried a 32" MSI MAG322CQR. Even worse and horrible fringing. I am using a RTX Asus Strix 3080 GPU btw. Ended up with three G-sync compatible ASUS 27" VG27AQL1A ( not the only 27" monitor I tested). Excessive bouncing was gone with super sharp picture on High setting. Then I saw your review on the 32" Gigabyte monitors so I thought I'd give it a try since I prefer the 32". The G-sync compatible Gigabyte had the same problem so it is not so G-sync compatible IMO so it was returned. Looks like the RHM coder is a great solution that will make some monitors be more friendly.
Thank you so much. I hated ACC because the world would bounce and so hard to drive.
You are correct, it was developed for Ac for Drifters. If you wanna tandem drift, it gives you the ability to "look out the sidewindow" to see your Friends your are drifting close by with.
At first i always drove with static cockpits but as you said it one day i realized how shaky it actually is and i have had a little time with Iracing which i also begun with static cockpit. But then like said i noticed this problem so i tried shaky View. I kinda liked it so when i started Acc i activated the shaky effects there too (yes on 100%) It never looked comfortable to me but i still had the feeling that it helps, instead of static cockpit. Now that there is RHM for Acc which looks more iracing like i think im gonna try it atleast once.
I guess some people think race cars drive like Lexus in real life, everything smooth and disconnected. If you’ve been in a race car, you know the cars vibrate like crazy, even at idle due to everything being stiff. The suspension reacts to even a little pebble on the road. Everything is stiff and abrupt. Therefore, the camera “shake” is really trying to convey the g forces. But somehow, people want to tune those out, so in essence making a sim into simcade. I would set the rhm to increase and not decrease these settings for immersion and simulation unless you have a motion rig.
thats not the issue here.
If you'd sit in the racecar your body would shake as well so you wouldnt run into motion sickness.
Anybody ever said to you: "Don't read in the car, youll get sick" - Same thing.
@@psirus89 if you’re already getting motion sickness from a video game, don’t even try real racing.
@@johnmann7o2 You are not understanding the point and thats okay. Have a good day