@@exobyte2000 then rub a few of your brain cells together and subtract them from his number. Zach did a great job breaking everything down so it shouldn't be too hard for you.
Good tires are not always quiet tires, a good performance tire will often be loud. Do you want traction, or do you want them to last longer? Can't have it all
You honestly didn't spend that much. Gas varies unless you're buying electric. Otherwise, you'll be buying it anyway. The rest of your list looks like what I've spent on just about every car I've owned.
How on earth have you gone through 5 sets of tires and only spent $1365? You havent changed brakes, trans fluid, diff fluids in all those miles or is that part of misc maintenance?
It's funny I replaced my tires once on my G37 in it's 80k lifespan, and it cost me only 500 bucks. AS tires are quite, smooth, and michelin sport A/S are pretty good performing too. The only time I'd imagine going through 5 sets of tires is if you track every month. And if that's the case I'd get a dedicated sports car, not a daily SUV.
"As long as you just maintain the car" says it all. Most complaints about reliability stem from someone purchasing a BMW that wasn't maintained by the previous owner. People buy them and then seem to think they don't even have to change the oil. Cheap oil, cheap gas, cheap tires, and cheap replacement parts are also causes of reliability issues. BMW is a performance brand first and foremost, no cheaping out on the parts that matter. 1997 e36 328i 153k miles 2008 e83 X3 128k miles 2015 f10 528i 228k miles
I have a sweet 2018 Carbon Black Metallic X3 M40i, awesome vehicle, daily driver, sport driven to the max. Not one issue since buying it. I have maintained all the required oil changes and maintenance. The only thing I’ve replaced are the front brakes(much needed in order to have stopping power for this rocket) and the tires which are very expensive. Overall greatest car ever. Want the X3M Competition soo bad.
I would have not done any mods and instead invested in better tires. You have one of the best handling SUVs and that deserves some nicer tires. Aside from that, I am pretty impressed the cost isn't that much. From the thumbnail, I thought it would have costs a lot more. Thanks for sharing!
Really not that bad considering you put 100,000 miles on. Your gas and insurance would be less driving something more economical, but not as much as you think. You could drive a “cheap” to own car and end up spending a lot more. As soon as any of these cars are out of warranty they cost way too much to fix. BMW has a reputation for being “expensive” to fix, but I can tell you even the “affordable” brands aren’t any cheaper to fix if you have a major repair. Shop rates are about $150-$200 in my area and BMW rates aren’t any higher than other brand.
Dude, great job covering the costs. Wish more folks cover these type of things on all vehicles. I literally just bought a M40i. I think I need to derive to your state and get that downpipe and tune. LOL That price is too good. LOL
MRM performance Downpipe and a MG Flasher tune and it’ll be around that price! 😎 and hey, being the car to Idaho to come enjoy some amazing drives and scenery! You won’t regret it!
I am thinking of purchasing a 19 bmw x3 m40i with 82k miles. It is a 1 owner and used to be a lease, which the owner then purchased. You are the first one that has praised it for reliability past 100K! I have been having cold feet. All maintenance record has been done at bmw. Should I pull the trigger?? (No warranty...)
Do not buy it if it has no warranty. I dont care if it has a b58 engine. These engines are blast to drive. They reliable. They might be the new 2jz, but at the end of the day you never know what can go wrong. PS (i own a x40m)
I got my 18 x3 m40i right around jan. Got it with around 85k miles. Was a lil hesitant but after checking it out i couldnt resist especially after driving it. So far im right around 107-108k miles and have only done routine maintenance on it. Besides some tires and other things that i caused but didnt effect the car. Pull the trigger if it seems to checkout. Best car ive owned, new to me and a blast to drive. Sticker price otd was about 29k And i love it!!
First of all, thanks for the video, it always surprises me how little interest/understanding there is in vehicle ownership costs despite it being one of the most expensive things people buy. Second, I’m not sure what people are expecting but that seems like a very LOW ownership cost to me. 27cents per mile excluding depreciation. Assume you’ve lost half of the car’s value due to high mileage and the deer incident, that would put it at around 50cents per mile which is still great. Especially for such a nice car! I would say, anyone looking to buy one, go right ahead!
Be happy u live in the US - i own one in Europe, Austria - and the Insurance alone is 4,4k Euros ( 4,7k USD today ) a year, and if i drove 100k miles ( what i luckily dont do ) it would have cost me 29k Euros ( 31k USD ) with our gas prices :-D Maintence is quite the same about 600 USD a year
Nice have the 2023 X3 s30i, like the practicality of them. I’ve been doing oil changes at 5,000 miles due to the turbos. No issues with the windshield or part failures. Any issues with the carbon buildup on the valves?
How has the suspension faired during your ownership? Have you had any shock failures or bushing issues? The costs of these parts and labor involved have made me concerned about owning mine long term.
The seats are fine but not plush. I have the sport version in a 2019…the earlier pre LCI ones with ventilated seats (not super common) had the normal less sporty seats and are softer.
No maintenance, as for wear…I’m at 53k and no issues and I haven’t read of any but of course eventually parts will fail. If I were choosing again I’d probably get non adaptive to save a few $ and the 19” to soften the ride over the 20 or 21”. But the adaptive and 20” I have is good…will be better once I ditch the run flats.
I agree they are expensive. However, there hasn’t been major costs to repair here, the mods are by choice and the windscreen is pot luck. MPG is down to driving style. Ect you don’t buy a 45k car thinking it will be cheap to run, equally I don’t own mine to smash it with loads of miles
I have a x3m comp, it's not expensive at all.....for me.... Hmmmm, 150 a month for 2 way insurance.. 15 a month for plate.... And I do all my own maintenance. Amsoil oil once a year and filter 100$ Tires yeah Pirelli's burn fast pzero But worth it for the performance
Just a thought. If you ever did want to invest in a really good set of tires to just enjoy their performance on special trips/events or whatever, you could get those tires on a set of wheels you really like too. Then you could have your stock wheels with the cheap tires to put on when you get back to the daily grind.
Just wait till the radiator starts leaking, then the oil filter housing, then many other coolant leaks.. Hate to be that guy but after 85k miles my '18 X3 has cost me over $5000 in coolant issues alone.. Needless to say its for sale, Great driving car and the motor/trans is bullet proof. Unfortunately the coolant system and many plastic parts attached will start bleeding you dry.
It is a performance car. If you want to use the performance you need decent tyres. These four tyres are your only contact point to the road. Are you really trying to safe money on the most important safety aspect? 🤦♂️
I did every service BMW recommended at the time they were due! These transmissions, I was told by them, don’t need to be serviced. So, they never once had me do it. I always told them to do whatever service they thought the car needed anytime I brought it in.
@@ZachEgbert yeah that’s because it’s considered lifetime fluid basically when the warranty is over, that’s the lifetime. do your research sometimes you can’t trust the deal that fluid needs replaced along with the filter when the pans dropped.. been a mechanic for 40 years. If you’re planning on keeping it, I would definitely change the transmission fluid.
@@davewallace9048 go check my latest video, I already sold the car 👍🏻 but I just did any service bmw recommended. So if they never recommended it and tried to get that money from me for it, then it must not need it too much. I don’t think they’d ever shy away from making money on a transmission service if they felt it needed it, even slightly.
I don't think the gas cost is fair. You should have measured the cost DIFFERENCE between getting higher octane and lower octane. Because you didn't post a true cost. You would have paid some amount in gas no matter what car you had.
BMW unlimited iced oil changes it's a big no, no. BMW rips you of with $180.00 oil change, if you buy the "So called Unlimited oil changes". BMW manufacture recommends changing oil every year so you get only 3 oil changes in a period of 3 years. I guess BMW engineers forgot about "oil oxidation" that can deteriorate engines. I found this review interesting since I am trying to buy a c ar like yours.
There's NO WAY you purchased 5 sets of tires for $1365. That would be $68.25 per tire, including mounting, balancing, and disposal of your old tires...sorry I call BS. EVEN if you found cheap ass garbage tires on closeout from an on-line distributor, most shops charge $40-$50 per tire for mounting, balancing, and disposal... 20 tires at $40 equates to $800 in service fees alone.
Not expensive whatsoever. Bought my 2019 X3 M40i for $42K with 1500 miles and have owned it five years and the only major purchase was replacement of the rotors and brake pads ($1900 including labor). The catch is only has 34K miles on it 😎
Wait 2 1/2 years and it has over 100 thousand miles !!! Well no wonder your spending money , all those miles your putting in it …. I have a 2019 got it new with 4 miles , this September it will be 5 years of owning it …. It has 25 thousand miles and it’s my daily driving car
I’ve been driving BMW around 25 years got all the model in my history and NEVER NEVER took it to the dealer •••••l I do all by myself “””” ALL “” is been amazing experience cars are awesome “” To me BMW is a TOYOTA reliable cars with STEROIDS 😂😂😂😂 same good quality “” and this x3 m40 are awesome plus the x5 I have both right now “”” both X3 m40 and X5 I use it for all move jet ski trailer / RV / trailers “” etc is just perfect 👍🏼 cars “”” In oil change 😂MOBIL ONE synthetic $30 all and oem filter $7 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Simple “” I do it in 10 minute ready to go
I just follow what BMW recommends. If you buy their oil change package (which is oil changes for 3 years for $199) you’re only allowed to do the oil change when the service light comes on. And that only comes on at ~9k miles after each service. So if that’s what they recommend, that’s what I did 🤷🏻♂️
Mods are an optional cost. Should not be factored into cost of ownership.
No kidding. This is so disingenuous. Just trying to generate outrage clicks.
@@exobyte2000 then rub a few of your brain cells together and subtract them from his number. Zach did a great job breaking everything down so it shouldn't be too hard for you.
@@stephen-he4iwirrelevant. It shouldn’t even be included to begin with.
@@stephen-he4iwno matter how you slice it, mods are not part of the “Real Cost” of owning the vehicle.
i’ll give you a piece of advice - never cheap out on tires.. you will get what you pay for; smoother ride, quieter, last longer
Good tires are not always quiet tires, a good performance tire will often be loud. Do you want traction, or do you want them to last longer? Can't have it all
Tyre review have proven cheap tires cost the same just worse performance.
1300 dollars on tires is not cheap. you can get a good set for that.
@@Charlay_Charlay 1300 usd or cad? up here in canada 1300 gets you mid range
@trobs6573 usd i would use tire rack to get it.
You honestly didn't spend that much. Gas varies unless you're buying electric. Otherwise, you'll be buying it anyway. The rest of your list looks like what I've spent on just about every car I've owned.
How on earth have you gone through 5 sets of tires and only spent $1365? You havent changed brakes, trans fluid, diff fluids in all those miles or is that part of misc maintenance?
For real
It's funny I replaced my tires once on my G37 in it's 80k lifespan, and it cost me only 500 bucks. AS tires are quite, smooth, and michelin sport A/S are pretty good performing too. The only time I'd imagine going through 5 sets of tires is if you track every month. And if that's the case I'd get a dedicated sports car, not a daily SUV.
Couldn’t your insurance just replace windshield under glass coverage?
"As long as you just maintain the car" says it all. Most complaints about reliability stem from someone purchasing a BMW that wasn't maintained by the previous owner. People buy them and then seem to think they don't even have to change the oil. Cheap oil, cheap gas, cheap tires, and cheap replacement parts are also causes of reliability issues. BMW is a performance brand first and foremost, no cheaping out on the parts that matter.
1997 e36 328i 153k miles
2008 e83 X3 128k miles
2015 f10 528i 228k miles
2003 E46 xi here and bought my car with 82k miles and rn it has 135k miles no big issues whatsoever and everything genuine so. You have a great point!
I have a sweet 2018 Carbon Black Metallic X3 M40i, awesome vehicle, daily driver, sport driven to the max. Not one issue since buying it. I have maintained all the required oil changes and maintenance. The only thing I’ve replaced are the front brakes(much needed in order to have stopping power for this rocket) and the tires which are very expensive. Overall greatest car ever. Want the X3M Competition soo bad.
Good video dude. You didn’t just ramble, you explained everything well and not too much filler which plagues a lot of car channels
How haven't you gone through a set of brake pads and rotors yet?
I would have not done any mods and instead invested in better tires. You have one of the best handling SUVs and that deserves some nicer tires. Aside from that, I am pretty impressed the cost isn't that much. From the thumbnail, I thought it would have costs a lot more. Thanks for sharing!
So you haven't had to do brakes and rotors?
Really not that bad considering you put 100,000 miles on. Your gas and insurance would be less driving something more economical, but not as much as you think. You could drive a “cheap” to own car and end up spending a lot more. As soon as any of these cars are out of warranty they cost way too much to fix. BMW has a reputation for being “expensive” to fix, but I can tell you even the “affordable” brands aren’t any cheaper to fix if you have a major repair. Shop rates are about $150-$200 in my area and BMW rates aren’t any higher than other brand.
where's the part you are bankrupting?
Dude, great job covering the costs. Wish more folks cover these type of things on all vehicles. I literally just bought a M40i. I think I need to derive to your state and get that downpipe and tune. LOL That price is too good. LOL
MRM performance Downpipe and a MG Flasher tune and it’ll be around that price! 😎 and hey, being the car to Idaho to come enjoy some amazing drives and scenery! You won’t regret it!
Wait! $80 a year for registration? Here in Australia, we pay $1200 for registration, and the roads are so bad, I thought I was in the Middle East!
I am thinking of purchasing a 19 bmw x3 m40i with 82k miles. It is a 1 owner and used to be a lease, which the owner then purchased. You are the first one that has praised it for reliability past 100K! I have been having cold feet. All maintenance record has been done at bmw. Should I pull the trigger?? (No warranty...)
Don’t if you can’t they warranty BMW NEED WARRANTY NO MATTER WHAT JUST IN CASE ALTHOUGH THE B58 is a beast
Do not buy it if it has no warranty. I dont care if it has a b58 engine. These engines are blast to drive. They reliable. They might be the new 2jz, but at the end of the day you never know what can go wrong.
PS (i own a x40m)
My b58 has 76k miles and I drive it like I stole it and have had zero issues
I got my 18 x3 m40i right around jan. Got it with around 85k miles.
Was a lil hesitant but after checking it out i couldnt resist especially after driving it. So far im right around 107-108k miles and have only done routine maintenance on it. Besides some tires and other things that i caused but didnt effect the car.
Pull the trigger if it seems to checkout. Best car ive owned, new to me and a blast to drive. Sticker price otd was about 29k
And i love it!!
Almost all those costs would have been the same regardless of what make of car you owned.
First of all, thanks for the video, it always surprises me how little interest/understanding there is in vehicle ownership costs despite it being one of the most expensive things people buy.
Second, I’m not sure what people are expecting but that seems like a very LOW ownership cost to me. 27cents per mile excluding depreciation. Assume you’ve lost half of the car’s value due to high mileage and the deer incident, that would put it at around 50cents per mile which is still great. Especially for such a nice car! I would say, anyone looking to buy one, go right ahead!
Be happy u live in the US - i own one in Europe, Austria - and the Insurance alone is 4,4k Euros ( 4,7k USD today ) a year, and if i drove 100k miles ( what i luckily dont do ) it would have cost me 29k Euros ( 31k USD ) with our gas prices :-D Maintence is quite the same about 600 USD a year
I hope my wife doesn't see this video
LOL, happy wife happy life.
Have you changed the transmission fluid and the coolant?
Nice have the 2023 X3 s30i, like the practicality of them. I’ve been doing oil changes at 5,000 miles due to the turbos. No issues with the windshield or part failures. Any issues with the carbon buildup on the valves?
How has the suspension faired during your ownership? Have you had any shock failures or bushing issues? The costs of these parts and labor involved have made me concerned about owning mine long term.
How did you only spend $1,300 on 5!!! sets of tires?? what kind of tires? please tell me
I heard the seats are awful in this car especially the leather ones as they are very hard. The sensatec is much softer and comfortable?
I had no complaints with my seats at all! I took the car on hundreds of trips and never felt exhausted sitting in them.
The seats are fine but not plush. I have the sport version in a 2019…the earlier pre LCI ones with ventilated seats (not super common) had the normal less sporty seats and are softer.
Any additional maintenance required for your tuned m40i over stock? Came from the vw/audi world and it’s usually, more oil and spark plug changes.
The tube hasn’t changed a thing about the maintenance so far! I’ve had it on for about 50k miles and it’s not caused any extra wear or anything.
This is a great video. I wish more people did this.
I appreciate that! I’m all about transparency here 👊🏻
the tires are the only thing contacting the road, with a car this expensive you should always go for premium tires
Always have an emergency fund of 6 months if possible , apart from CC & etc for car emergencies & or unexpected life events
what about adaptive suspension? does it require maintenance or replacement?
No maintenance, as for wear…I’m at 53k and no issues and I haven’t read of any but of course eventually parts will fail. If I were choosing again I’d probably get non adaptive to save a few $ and the 19” to soften the ride over the 20 or 21”. But the adaptive and 20” I have is good…will be better once I ditch the run flats.
Great footage what do you think about the X3 with the 4cyl engine
better gas mileage. But you are driving a slow souless vehicle that can't get out of its own way.
lol I own an M40i and the 4cyl has good power, have driven several as loaners…if anything it feels more sprightly around town.
Where’d you get a front splitter for $60 from?
I got it off eBay! You can look up G01 bmw x3 4 piece splitter on there and a ton of options should come up!
@@ZachEgbert thanks man! I get my G01 on Wednesday! Same color as yours. Sick build!
I agree they are expensive. However, there hasn’t been major costs to repair here, the mods are by choice and the windscreen is pot luck. MPG is down to driving style. Ect you don’t buy a 45k car thinking it will be cheap to run, equally I don’t own mine to smash it with loads of miles
I’m thinking of getting a 18’ x3 m40i has 46k miles , you think that’s high enough for me to run into a lot of issues ?
My car has 147k miles with no issues, so I think you’re safe! If it’s been maintained thoroughly, it’ll run forever
You go through your insurance to get a new windshield. Do you not have full glass coverage?
Did you keep the run flats on the car at all. Is it a rough ride and are they useable in the snow. Is it awd, 4wd.
I have the 21” wheels and the tire selection sucks. Don’t do it. I think those numbers are very good for owning any car.
That's why I went to the 20" wheels on my m40i
I have a x3m comp, it's not expensive at all.....for me....
Hmmmm, 150 a month for 2 way insurance..
15 a month for plate....
And I do all my own maintenance.
Amsoil oil once a year and filter 100$
Tires yeah Pirelli's burn fast pzero
But worth it for the performance
Just a thought. If you ever did want to invest in a really good set of tires to just enjoy their performance on special trips/events or whatever, you could get those tires on a set of wheels you really like too. Then you could have your stock wheels with the cheap tires to put on when you get back to the daily grind.
Just wait till the radiator starts leaking, then the oil filter housing, then many other coolant leaks.. Hate to be that guy but after 85k miles my '18 X3 has cost me over $5000 in coolant issues alone.. Needless to say its for sale, Great driving car and the motor/trans is bullet proof. Unfortunately the coolant system and many plastic parts attached will start bleeding you dry.
FYI the PCV is covered under a service campaign for like 10yrs or more and BMW will cover for free.
It is a performance car. If you want to use the performance you need decent tyres.
These four tyres are your only contact point to the road. Are you really trying to safe money on the most important safety aspect?
🤦♂️
Where do you live that your registration is that cheap?
that 15200 is whymanygo ev, however, cahnces are they pay that extra 15k up front since EV are more expensive
$45k with 45k miles is crazy. I am looking at a 2020 with 60k miles for 28k from a local bmw dealer.
"....it's been worth it, love this car." Lol, legend!
What year is your car ?
It’s a 2019!
I hope you had the transmission serviced and differentials and transfer case fluid
I did every service BMW recommended at the time they were due! These transmissions, I was told by them, don’t need to be serviced. So, they never once had me do it. I always told them to do whatever service they thought the car needed anytime I brought it in.
@@ZachEgbert yeah that’s because it’s considered lifetime fluid basically when the warranty is over, that’s the lifetime. do your research sometimes you can’t trust the deal that fluid needs replaced along with the filter when the pans dropped.. been a mechanic for 40 years. If you’re planning on keeping it, I would definitely change the transmission fluid.
@@davewallace9048 go check my latest video, I already sold the car 👍🏻 but I just did any service bmw recommended. So if they never recommended it and tried to get that money from me for it, then it must not need it too much. I don’t think they’d ever shy away from making money on a transmission service if they felt it needed it, even slightly.
I don't think the gas cost is fair. You should have measured the cost DIFFERENCE between getting higher octane and lower octane. Because you didn't post a true cost. You would have paid some amount in gas no matter what car you had.
Yup, never cheap out on insurance! Thanks for sharing
You’ll never recover financially from purchasing a German car. But man, do I love driving them!
Where did you get the front splitter?
I got it on eBay! If you look up a 4 piece front splitter for an X3 M40i on there, it should come up
BMW unlimited iced oil changes it's a big no, no. BMW rips you of with $180.00 oil change, if you buy the "So called Unlimited oil changes". BMW manufacture recommends changing oil every year so you get only 3 oil changes in a period of 3 years. I guess BMW engineers forgot about "oil oxidation" that can deteriorate engines. I found this review interesting since I am trying to buy a c ar like yours.
30months aka 2.5years and you put on a 100K miles on it?. 😳😱🤯
Yup! I drive a ton for work and running my business 😂
45,000 miles @ $45000....you got robbed. $220/mo insurance...bargain
Not in 2022 no, that was a fair and normal price.
There's NO WAY you purchased 5 sets of tires for $1365. That would be $68.25 per tire, including mounting, balancing, and disposal of your old tires...sorry I call BS. EVEN if you found cheap ass garbage tires on closeout from an on-line distributor, most shops charge $40-$50 per tire for mounting, balancing, and disposal...
20 tires at $40 equates to $800 in service fees alone.
who drives 100K in 30 months? crazy....that's 40K per year, it's 4 times than average people drive.
quick advice - check your driving pattern :)
I'm surprised the tires were so "cheap"
mantainance and gas are a given. you are doing very well with that car.
thats a yearly gas expenses on a hellcat lol
Not expensive whatsoever. Bought my 2019 X3 M40i for $42K with 1500 miles and have owned it five years and the only major purchase was replacement of the rotors and brake pads ($1900 including labor). The catch is only has 34K miles on it 😎
Wait 2 1/2 years and it has over 100 thousand miles !!! Well no wonder your spending money , all those miles your putting in it …. I have a 2019 got it new with 4 miles , this September it will be 5 years of owning it …. It has 25 thousand miles and it’s my daily driving car
It costs $40 for every 1000 miles? That’s nothing.
It’s really not! The car has been bullet proof and cheap
now imagine in europe the gas is twice the price. that is why everyone including me drives a diesel lol
Considering you live in the middle of nowhere this isnt bad at all. Id eat all those cost in CA… which I plan to do lmao
I’d like to see the miscellaneous costs broke down
I’ve been driving BMW around 25 years got all the model in my history and NEVER NEVER took it to the dealer •••••l
I do all by myself “””” ALL “” is been amazing experience cars are awesome “”
To me BMW is a TOYOTA reliable cars with STEROIDS 😂😂😂😂 same good quality “” and this x3 m40 are awesome plus the x5 I have both right now “”” both X3 m40 and X5 I use it for all move jet ski trailer / RV / trailers “” etc is just perfect 👍🏼 cars “””
In oil change 😂MOBIL ONE synthetic $30 all and oem filter $7 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Simple “” I do it in 10 minute ready to go
The car needs the oil changes every 5K not 10
I just follow what BMW recommends. If you buy their oil change package (which is oil changes for 3 years for $199) you’re only allowed to do the oil change when the service light comes on. And that only comes on at ~9k miles after each service. So if that’s what they recommend, that’s what I did 🤷🏻♂️
That's not that bad at all. I'm impressed.
Jesus, US people buying cheap gas! Its like €1 per liter. We pay €2,10 per liter 🙂 Crazy..
But also the mods are very cheap!
Dude, hold the camera still 🥴
This looks like utah/idaho.
Gotta pay to play!
Then I guess you couldn’t afford one