This is why I prefer this channel over straight pipes. It's not just how it handles in cliche corner. Don't get me wrong, I love those guys, but a lot of their info is superficial and fun. Mark goes further and I appreciate it.
yeah the straight pipes and throttle house are both excellent channels, but for real information about a car i go to savage. straight pipes and throttle house are amazing with amazing people and phenomenal videography and editing, they produce very polished and easy to watch videos, so i love watching them. But as far as relevant information about cars, it's hard to beat savage
Yea because they don't cover cars head to toe , they say ok it's good looking it's fast and the interior is at least not crappy ... And a box test for no reason ..
Straight pipes is a bunch of annoying kids running around in cars, I stopped watching them after their 5th show. Throttle House has great entertainment value.
its the m package after all. you cant make it too soft then. people need to make up their minds. 500 hp with very soft dampers isnt reallly a good feeling
Not all of THEIR roads are great...some are shitty enough to make you drive half the posted limit in an M car. Would love to have that one setting he spoke of, comfort cause Im going to or coming from work and don't feel like getting my ass kicked...again.
Some autobahn (no speed limit highway) are still ww2 concrete pads lined up. They are making a ton of roadwork but because their roads are free, some portions are still bad. And believe me. Hitting a bad joint at 200±kph (130mph ish) with a Bilstein dampened car with super stiff springs, not the most fun you can have 😂
You are correct! Also, because they don't care what your roads are, they make them for personal use. Sadly, this made in US product with Mexican parts is no M vehicle.
An excellent compromise would be the X3 M40i. It's super smooth in comfort mode, the Sports mode is lots of fun, and it has plenty of usable power. Best of all, you can get it for under 65k fully loaded.
I'm the exact same way. I've had years to get used to them, but to me SUVs are still appliances, or in some cases off-road/hauling tools, and I'm just not interested in them at all. This practice of putting tens of thousands of dollars of equipment into a heavy vehicle with a high center of gravity to try to turn it into some kind of street performance machine still strikes me as a deeply silly exercise, despite the fact that everyone has been doing it for years now and apparently people are buying them. At least this one isn't squished into an even more useless "coupe."
Is this necessary? Nope... I stay hopeful that engineers at some car company will quietly say - "You know what would make these performance CUVs/SUVs even better? A lower center of gravity." Then they quietly morph back into station wagons. Then my god damn alarm clock goes off.
Yes and if they took it even further? Now that we've lowered the CUV so it handles better. How about we remove 2 doors and make a shooting brake? What I'd give for a manual 911 shooting brake with a gt3 engine...
Porsche prices have gotten ridiculous. Got my Macan S when they first came out, loaded, for $70K. Specced out a new one with all the same options, and you're paying almost $20K extra for the new safety/tech features. Still have my '15 almost 6 years later, and it still drives fantastic. Super solid, fantastic ride, zero issues. I opted for the air suspension, and I think that makes a huge difference. I had an X5 before with rear air suspension, and it handled fine, but it had to be sooo stiff to do it. I described it as "crashing" over little bumps. It was so bumpy and loud inside. The X3M is slightly interesting, but sounds like it has a lot of that same "crashy" feel.
This vehicle is exactly for the person who needs a single vehicle to do it all. And I can say that with authority, because I almost bought this exact model a mere five days ago. I expect my vehicles to drive well and leave an impression that doesn't fade from memory as soon as the garage door closes, but I also live in a large city with only a single garage space, and I'm a regular at Home Depot and Menards. I'm not going to strap lumber to the roof of a "proper" sports car nor am I going to walk five blocks to a garage that I can rent from a little old lady for $300/month just to properly house/protect it. The part about a husband swindling his wife in order to get her buy-in made me wonder if you guys had a hidden microphone in my kitchen, and it was because of that debate that we ultimately went for a GLC63 instead. An excellent video, gentlemen.
@@xavriz A few reasons. First, I always wanted a V8-powered Benz since I was a kid with car posters on my bedroom wall, and I figured it might be my last opportunity to get one before the whole world goes electric, or Mercedes went bonkers and decided that a hybrid four-banger was somehow a suitable replacement. Second, my wife already had a C-class so she was already somewhat familiar with the design, controls, etc. Third, we also had some problems securing the specific model of X3M that we wanted due to the the first wave of pandemic-related supply chain snafus.
I had an X3 for several years. Not an M, just a regular X3. It was a good SUV and I quite liked it. Very reliable and it was a great vehicle for me. Great for hauling stuff and great in the winter. The M version would be fun. I don't feel bad about liking SUVs.
Better check your math. My M40i is two years old and has only lost 12% of its value 😎 My 2017 Golf GTI lost a lot more value (25%) in two years before I traded it.
Eh, sounds about right to me. I live in an upper middle class area, and typically it's women I see driving these types of cars (BMW or Porsche SUV's.) Rarely do I see men behind the wheel of these vehicles. While their doctor hubby's at work, these non-working trophy wives are out spending his money. They're not driving these SUV's because they're car enthusiasts, they're driving them because it's an accessory, like a Coach purse. P.S. I'm a woman, so don't call me sexist. I'm just stating facts.
After religiously watching almost all of your videos, that was up there for being one of the best final thoughts; incredibly informative and weighed in on the actual owner’s reasoning behind the purchase makes a great final-thoughts combo. Please keep that up!
Bmw does make that car you just mentioned ... it’s called the G80 with s58 engine. It’s been testing in the Nurburgring for the past 2 years. And It’s gonna be the best car of the decade with AWD
The other thing is that there is the X3 M40i which is nearly as fast (what it gives up in top speed it makes up for in torque available earlier) and rides a little softer. Honestly though, it’s still pretty firm.
@@FlexRogers idk what your tslking about but with a simple tune its faster than a stock urus and trackhawk that may not be your style but its someone else's style with awd it can be used all year round in colder climates while actually putting 500awhp down with a tune
Just wanted to say, this intro along with the accord sport intro has to be some of the best audio-togaphry I've ever seen, it's become a 'cliche' on your channel, "Damn dude, love your cinematics, never seen it done like this, you deserve a million subscribers AND a paid meal at Arby's" But man, it can't be any truer, despite being 30 seconds the most, I put on my headphones and every now and then watch the intros just because it's such an eye and ear(?) candy.
Everybody forgets the fabulous Alfa's. The most disrespected brand on the road....in America. Europeans get it. I love the Stelvio. Extremely cool SUV.
As an X340M owner, I totally agree about the rough pavement issues even on my less sporty version ( it’s annoyingly harsh) and how and where would I utilize all that power without getting a huge amount of fines :) ! Thank you for your work!
My friend has both (X3MC and X3 M40i). He drives the comp package and his wife drives the M40i. She already had hers as they were preparing to move from CA to WY. His F80 M3 was traded for the X3MC and he's happy with it as a replacement for that car. Unless you just have to have the M, save the money and get the M40i. According to him, it rides better, sounds great, offers significant savings over the M versions, and the lease and finance offers from BMW are far more aggressive.
also there's plenty of aftermarket support for the b58 in the x3 m40i, so even tho the s58 has a stronger bottom end and makes more power stock, you can still modify the b58 with basic upgrades (tune, downpipe, injectors, less restrictive air filter and exhaust) and you can boost the hp quite a bit, I've heard the b58 can handle 600hp as is which is awesome, and you can do it for less than the price difference of the x40i vs x3m.
I drove an X4 Competition. I would prefer the X3M variant, but I get it after driving it. Big enough for my mountain bike in the back. But some winter tires on it and go through feet of snow. Small performance hit for the height / weight. I hate to say it, but I loved it!
Yep, but people are buying it. I don't understand. We're in a very shaky economy right now, and the people who buy these aren't filthy rich people, it's your everyday American who makes good money but still feels the need to keep up with the Joneses. Those are the people that buy these things and for the money they're charging for this.... no fuckin' way!!
@@MrHav1k blame government and union leaders in Germany the overpriced. When business costs go up for Corporation so does the wholesale price for dealership to loan them to sell too consumers like you
In our family we have 3, 2 - 35i and 1 35i m pack. Those are plenty fine cars. Even the m pack is enough with the electric dampeners and nicer stuff. M is just overkill and just the way it’s supposed to be.
The base x3s are hideous though. All those silver plastic bits on every side of the car. It looks so clumsy and weak. The m40i is the sweet spot. Obviously black out all the silver/matte copper crap.
With a price tag of around $75 000, there shouldn't be the word Mexico anywhere on this thing. @2:35 we can see Jack without his medication here... lol! BTW, nice shout out to The Straight Pipes there @13:19.
I find it funny how people are comparing a new BMW to 20k used S2000 and comparing them for value as a sports car. The X3M is not trying to be an M3, it‘s trying to be a compromise - which is exactly why it is a compromise. We car guys don‘t like it cause it‘s an M which is not sporty enough for us, but it‘s not really marketed at us. It is marketed at people with the needs that the owner of this car describes in the video. I think it‘s a nice car but I would not like to pay 70k for it, since it‘s not what I‘m looking for.
You do know, there only is an m550d touring? However, if there were an m550i touring, it would be a great car... Gotta go with a B5 Alpina instead I guess
It targeted for buyers with extrme lifestyles, mountain biking , sking , snow boarding, rock climbing, Canoing you go off road to go to most of these Destination
Savage geese is the only channel as far I know who delves into more of the unknown and deeper styles of copyright free music instead of those standard TH-cam music! (:
The amount of power in the current M cars is just mind boggling. Hard to really extract all that power unless on a track. I think the X3 M40i might be a better choice as a daily. Even the M550i is such a fast car that I think the M5 might be overkill. Or I’m just getting old lol.
This video is ranked number 5 right now for "bmw".....not too shabby goose. Number 1 for the term "x3m". I was just going to honk at you about the choices for your tags lol...and there you go toppin the charts...noice work. 👍
These fast SUVs are those who don't want to give up their (but have to) sports sedans/coupes, and whose wife is allowing them to get the performance version of it. From a driving dynamic standpoint, I cannot see why someone would immediately gravitate towards this first and say "I want an X3M" without having to explain some reasoning after it versus an M340i.
I went from the m40i to the x3m comp. The m40i is definitely the sweet spot. It's still REALLY good performance, better fuel economy, and FAR better ride. I had to be extra and go with more power, but the m40i really is a treat.
Great review as always. I hate the fanboy non realistic reviews on here ( most car reviews). Your reviews map reality and practicality with the true nature of the car. Please continue this great very honest, not lame ass fanboy reviews.
I think I’d rather swing for a Trackhawk. Having a supercharged V8 in an AWD JGC provides a more raw and brute experience. The X3M Competition is a sharp machine, with precision and grace. It’s more civilized. It might be even better than the Trackhawk.
I'd be interested in finding out what the gas mileage is for the x3m. The Trackhawk has abysmally bad mpg. It's fun to ride in, but it destroys you at the pump.
Ramad Jones my parents have a bmw x4m competition and that averages around 15mpg, lowest I’ve seen it go is 12mpg but that was after a day of thrashing it up and down the motorways and the trip had recently been re set
@@msrr1303 100% mate, sadly I only know of like 5 trackhawks in the uk and because there's so few of them there like over 100k so for that money the interior quality and a few over factors make it hard to choose over something like a range rover svr or X5m comp. We went for the x4m comp as we didn't need a car as big as the x5m and the x4m with a tune is quicker. Would love to see a track hawk on the road tho
This is what people don’t understand, but BMW knows people will buy a $100K sports SUV so they do it still. They’re just catering to the market as they should.
@@wax333 this thing has way too much power for a daily commuter. Most of it's power is wasted for people who refuse to speed way over the limit. And bringing something like this to a race track all I can do is laugh, nobody who buys this is gonna be doing that. This is basically a drag racing SUV with bad ride quality...you can surprise people at stoplights for laughs like a sleeper car that's about it. "OMG that SUV smoked my Mustang!" The higher center of gravity means it's never gonna be able to handle turns like a true sports car but hey I guess it can kind of compete in the American muscle car segment?
Here in the USA we don’t get the performance wagon so this is the closest option. The RS6 Avant in 110k starting and we got the X3M out the door for 68k cash - happy with the deal and performance for the $ to carry the two kids and dog ;) Ciao!
The X3 M40i is definitely the sweet spot in the range. Still get a good engine with the b58 and it rides well. I don't see the point in jumping up to the full blown m model.
Having owned the 2019 X3 with just the 2.0T and driven the M40i, I’d actually say that’s the one most people should buy. That being said, I’d probably get the M40i if I were to buy another one just because but the turbo 4 is really a great engine.
My obligatory BMW post: BMW should put a *Depreciation Gauge* on the dashboard right next to the tachometer. It would have to be something like a calendar / odometer combo gauge, with a dollar figure overlay, so you could see just how much value your new BMW is losing with every passing mile, and every passing day. This gauge would run continually in the background, so that when you get into the vehicle after a prolonged absence, it would be able to tell you exactly how much less it is worth since the last time you drove it. I would also suggest that they include a *Doomsday / Sunset* feature with the depreciation gauge, (they could market it as a package!). This feature would activate when the car has achieved *Maximum Worthlessness* , which can best be described as the point where it would make more sense financially to have it crushed and made into a coffee table, than it would to replace the carbon ceramic brakes.
Great review I own and X3m and it’s tuned with downpipes and I walk track hawks and even m5s m6s anything that came my way good opinion on it good review what u said is all true car is so so fast it’s an new m3 buffed up and higher
The reason for this type of vehicle is those drivers who want a sports car that can carry your golf clubs, and have comfortable access into and exiting the vehicle. I have back and sciatica problems at times and getting in and out of a regular high vehicle aggravate my condition. I like Jack's perspective of the car.
A lawyer opened the door of his BMW when suddenly a car came along and hit the door, ripping it off completely. When the police arrived at the scene, the lawyer was complaining bitterly about the damage to his precious BMW. "Officer, look what they've done to my Beeemer!!!", he whiningly said. "You lawyers are so materialistic, you make me sick!!!" retorted the officer, "You're so worried about your stupid BMW, that you didn't even notice that your left arm was ripped off!!!" "Oh my god....", replied the lawyer, finally noticing the bloody left shoulder where his arm once was, "Where's my Rolex?"
Sorry, regardless of the performance I just can't get behind the "sporty" SUV segment. If you want sports car dynamics with practicality, why not buy a wagon?
Same. It's a comment some people dislike reading, but it's true for the vast majority of us. You cannot have road contact feel in these big bloated bath tubs on wheels.
A valid question. I had a modded Legacy GT wagon. I loved it. However, there is something about the seating position of an SUV, and its added ground clearance if you live in snow country, that makes it somehow more desirable.
Only rational reason I see is that in some nasty or third world places around the world you really do need the ride height and sliver of increased off-road capability in order to not completely destroy and ruin your car. For example I live in Eastern Europe and drive a Volvo wagon with 13 cm ground clearance but I can't tell you how many times I've hit my oil pan and nearly cracked it open, or destroyed my exhaust. . You can't even park near a curb here without fearing of destroying the front bumper because they're so high. That's why the Lamborghini Urus has been a hit with rich people in countries like Russia, India or other places with terrible roads. Unfortunately, it seems Illinois, Michigan and other places in the US fit this mold.
Wrong it good value, the basic 340 didn't get m package for $50000usd in 2018 , the M pack standard now for $54000usd . M4 comp is $80000usd that expensive really . But you can blame Germany Government and Union leaders greed in Germany it expensive. You can't compare price to car built in capitalist country like USA
Great reveiw on the most important details instead of trying to cover everything because you did it on the last X3 review. I have great roads and I love it! It is crazy fast and everytime I get in it I get excited like I do getting suited up for a ride on my Triump 765 street triple RS! Listen to that engine. BMW made a turbo 6 sound intoxicating. That interior sound is not pumped in and no crackles and pops like my X3M40 i and at first I missed it but crackles and pops get old.
Seriously. BMW built a stat of the art plant in Greenville/Spartenburg SC USA 25 years ago. X3,X4,x5,X6,X7 are all made there for the entire world. Watch a video on the production of one of the models and see that a plant in US is just as good or better than one in Germany or Japan. You probably will never be able to afford one even 10 years old but if you could you will see it is a monster and will outperform a Mercedes, Porsche, Alfa, Jag for thousands less.
I have an X3 M40i I keep at my holiday home, amazing performance, sound and ride quality. Test drove the X3M, that ride comfort is bone crushingly hard, utterly unpleasant, and actually feels too fast. The X5M gives a much better ride, firm but not unpleasant, and has much the same performance but that chassis and setup is a far better fit for it. I elected to get the X5M50i for the balance of performance, ride quality, handling and luxury.
I feel like every statement where BMW is commended for their prioritization of handling and balance should get an asterisk thanks to the BMW 2 Gran Coupe.
I trust your reviews so much and you the only serious straight to business review you have really good knowledge and after watching your videos I learnt few things about cars.
I'm sure the 75 yrs-old couple who usually buy these things totally needs the 3 sec. 0-60 capability. I'll look for those next time I follow a left-lane hogger.
On the other hand, I use the same generation X3 to explore abandoned mines in Nevada (special-ordered a version with spare for running over 70-year-old nails while 30 miles east of Gabbs). It rides tons better than Wrangler than I had before. And, I sleep in the back. And, I can throw all the long guns lengthwise.
Mike Jacobsen yeah, he said that once on a podcast with smoking tires. But thats not completely true I quess because that short piece of music at 7:27 is a copyright free song that I know..
Savage geese is the only channel as far I know who delves into more of the unknown and deeper styles of copyright free music instead of those standard TH-cam music! (:
@@alansmilealot I put my wife in a big safe vehicle because I care about their safety. My wife isn't a moron. There are still some out there that are driving well.
No one... People who buy this don't go to track days to fully exploit this power. But even if they did the brakes on these vehicles are not going to last on a track day due to the sheer weight. Total BS these SUVs...
This needs 5 heat exchangers! Two radiators, two oil coolers, and a transmission cooler. You can start to see where electric will be the easy answer in the future as it just wants to make more power, not more heat.
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This is why I prefer this channel over straight pipes. It's not just how it handles in cliche corner. Don't get me wrong, I love those guys, but a lot of their info is superficial and fun. Mark goes further and I appreciate it.
yeah the straight pipes and throttle house are both excellent channels, but for real information about a car i go to savage. straight pipes and throttle house are amazing with amazing people and phenomenal videography and editing, they produce very polished and easy to watch videos, so i love watching them. But as far as relevant information about cars, it's hard to beat savage
Yea because they don't cover cars head to toe , they say ok it's good looking it's fast and the interior is at least not crappy ... And a box test for no reason ..
Yeah there's a place for both styles of reviews
Straight pipes is substantially worse than Throttle House
Straight pipes is a bunch of annoying kids running around in cars, I stopped watching them after their 5th show. Throttle House has great entertainment value.
1:49 SLAV KING IS HERE
2:34 hardbass starts playing
We have adidas and vodka in BMW. Only listen to Slav King
@@savagegeese I'll be right over
@@LifeofBoris bro, no way
The ultimate crossover 0_0
I don’t think the SQ5 is in the same league as the X3M. SQ5 more comparable to M40i.
True
Yeah that would be a “rsq5”
I think they only named drop the SQ5 because Audi doesn't build an RSQ5 to compete with this thing
You could make 600hp in an sq5. Those are insane all modded. Sleepers.
It's firm riding because germans think the whole world has *THEIR* roads 😂
Lol yes
its the m package after all. you cant make it too soft then. people need to make up their minds. 500 hp with very soft dampers isnt reallly a good feeling
Not all of THEIR roads are great...some are shitty enough to make you drive half the posted limit in an M car. Would love to have that one setting he spoke of, comfort cause Im going to or coming from work and don't feel like getting my ass kicked...again.
Some autobahn (no speed limit highway) are still ww2 concrete pads lined up. They are making a ton of roadwork but because their roads are free, some portions are still bad. And believe me. Hitting a bad joint at 200±kph (130mph ish) with a Bilstein dampened car with super stiff springs, not the most fun you can have 😂
You are correct! Also, because they don't care what your roads are, they make them for personal use. Sadly, this made in US product with Mexican parts is no M vehicle.
An excellent compromise would be the X3 M40i. It's super smooth in comfort mode, the Sports mode is lots of fun, and it has plenty of usable power. Best of all, you can get it for under 65k fully loaded.
Not a real //M car. X3M is a real M performance machine
@@8weapons "performance machine"
@@8weapons as if you need that power on the street... M40i gives you more power than you'd ever need already
@@bwdrives exactly. plus if you really do need the power, a stage 1 tune (+60hp) is a tap away.
@@8weaponsThat's the point though.
Money does not buy happiness but boy does it come close to keeping a smile on your face while you drive it
Why is there an exact copy of this comment by someone else?
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And kids, this is how you do a proper review special when you are listening Slav King, i love your humor
That is why the X3 M40i is the one you want. Gives you amazing power and comfort mode is great for regular driving.
True. This thing is great and all, but you hardly get to use half of the power before getting pulled over.
What's the difference between this X3 M and the M40i? Is the M40i a tier below this?
@@kevinlai9720 355+hp and much cheaper tires brakes. More comfortable suspension. Easy to mod for over 400hp.
"still an SUV, can't get excited about it. Goodbye."
AMEN
Some people like performance SUVs. That's why there is a market for them. It's all preference.
That doesn't take away from how great the car is. I know it's an SUV, but this stuff is all gonna be in the M3, and that's going to be awesome.
I'm the exact same way. I've had years to get used to them, but to me SUVs are still appliances, or in some cases off-road/hauling tools, and I'm just not interested in them at all. This practice of putting tens of thousands of dollars of equipment into a heavy vehicle with a high center of gravity to try to turn it into some kind of street performance machine still strikes me as a deeply silly exercise, despite the fact that everyone has been doing it for years now and apparently people are buying them. At least this one isn't squished into an even more useless "coupe."
It seems like he's just more biased against BMW, which I can get, but he didn't act the same way with the TrackHawk.
That was amazing. I paused the video to write this comment )
Is this necessary? Nope...
I stay hopeful that engineers at some car company will quietly say - "You know what would make these performance CUVs/SUVs even better? A lower center of gravity." Then they quietly morph back into station wagons.
Then my god damn alarm clock goes off.
Yes and if they took it even further? Now that we've lowered the CUV so it handles better. How about we remove 2 doors and make a shooting brake?
What I'd give for a manual 911 shooting brake with a gt3 engine...
Station wagons!? What a nightmare! 😱
I just wanna say how much I appreciate your videography. It’s just top notch, cinema quality material.
The grill is to small, I can still see car.
LOL. I think everyone can agree that BMWs massive grills are HIDEOUS!
How much does this SUV cost?
Well, now you have new m3 m4 ^_^ .....
This is nothing compared to new m3/4s, and it’s what it supposed to be like from normal X3..
Porsche prices have gotten ridiculous. Got my Macan S when they first came out, loaded, for $70K. Specced out a new one with all the same options, and you're paying almost $20K extra for the new safety/tech features. Still have my '15 almost 6 years later, and it still drives fantastic. Super solid, fantastic ride, zero issues. I opted for the air suspension, and I think that makes a huge difference. I had an X5 before with rear air suspension, and it handled fine, but it had to be sooo stiff to do it. I described it as "crashing" over little bumps. It was so bumpy and loud inside. The X3M is slightly interesting, but sounds like it has a lot of that same "crashy" feel.
This vehicle is exactly for the person who needs a single vehicle to do it all. And I can say that with authority, because I almost bought this exact model a mere five days ago. I expect my vehicles to drive well and leave an impression that doesn't fade from memory as soon as the garage door closes, but I also live in a large city with only a single garage space, and I'm a regular at Home Depot and Menards. I'm not going to strap lumber to the roof of a "proper" sports car nor am I going to walk five blocks to a garage that I can rent from a little old lady for $300/month just to properly house/protect it. The part about a husband swindling his wife in order to get her buy-in made me wonder if you guys had a hidden microphone in my kitchen, and it was because of that debate that we ultimately went for a GLC63 instead. An excellent video, gentlemen.
What made you go with the GLC over the X3?
@@xavriz A few reasons. First, I always wanted a V8-powered Benz since I was a kid with car posters on my bedroom wall, and I figured it might be my last opportunity to get one before the whole world goes electric, or Mercedes went bonkers and decided that a hybrid four-banger was somehow a suitable replacement. Second, my wife already had a C-class so she was already somewhat familiar with the design, controls, etc. Third, we also had some problems securing the specific model of X3M that we wanted due to the the first wave of pandemic-related supply chain snafus.
2 years later, how has the GLC been?
I had an X3 for several years. Not an M, just a regular X3. It was a good SUV and I quite liked it. Very reliable and it was a great vehicle for me. Great for hauling stuff and great in the winter. The M version would be fun. I don't feel bad about liking SUVs.
muy bien motorsports. I almost died.
Bien V
Sawa Bull they’re made in Mexico...
Sad but, true. I would rather have my car made in Germany.
May biden
Man I love this channel so much. Mark and Jack are always so down to earth about things, so real.
best part of BMW is getting them 50% off 2 years after buying. Gotta love the depreciation.
Better check your math. My M40i is two years old and has only lost 12% of its value 😎 My 2017 Golf GTI lost a lot more value (25%) in two years before I traded it.
PC Gamer I found quite a few that are two years old for under 25k lol
good for buying used.. 30-50k miles is the sweet value spot
Or 20% off a former loaner with 4k miles 😊
The M cars hold value better..
Nice intro.
That underbody aluminum bracing looks like it was installed by a teenager using spare pieces he found around his dad's garage
I thought tent pegs hammered flat on the end and drilled.
Why?
Right? It looks like the bracing on the bottom of my bed frame.
Looked slapped together and not at all strengthening the car 😂
You want something thicker, looks better, and heavier for a component you are never gonna see?
"Swindling his wife into accepting it" ain't that a good thing to know.
ikr, although for family man it's more than 90% of the cases people buy SUV's that much, so it's not that suprising
Yeah, that was a dumb remark. Wife drives a Cayman and lets husband borrow it once in a while.
Eh, sounds about right to me. I live in an upper middle class area, and typically it's women I see driving these types of cars (BMW or Porsche SUV's.) Rarely do I see men behind the wheel of these vehicles. While their doctor hubby's at work, these non-working trophy wives are out spending his money. They're not driving these SUV's because they're car enthusiasts, they're driving them because it's an accessory, like a Coach purse. P.S. I'm a woman, so don't call me sexist. I'm just stating facts.
After religiously watching almost all of your videos, that was up there for being one of the best final thoughts; incredibly informative and weighed in on the actual owner’s reasoning behind the purchase makes a great final-thoughts combo. Please keep that up!
Bmw does make that car you just mentioned ... it’s called the G80 with s58 engine.
It’s been testing in the Nurburgring for the past 2 years. And It’s gonna be the best car of the decade with AWD
While the X3M is a SUV, I think it's the best car in its class
A very good package for the performance you're getting in this car
I really just like it since it has the B58 or S58 as options.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 what? X3M only uses the new S58 engine.
Production value insane as always. Great job on this!
This is the best car review channel, not even close.
So many X3M’s for sale out there. Many consumers out there are asking the same question you asked in the title.
I bought the X3m competition because it checks all the boxes 📦 and it’s a lot of fun . All year round Practicability with fun to boot 🥾
@@tonytuka A vehicle that does everything poorly, and nothing particularly well
The other thing is that there is the X3 M40i which is nearly as fast (what it gives up in top speed it makes up for in torque available earlier) and rides a little softer. Honestly though, it’s still pretty firm.
@@FlexRogers idk what your tslking about but with a simple tune its faster than a stock urus and trackhawk that may not be your style but its someone else's style with awd it can be used all year round in colder climates while actually putting 500awhp down with a tune
@@FlexRogers lmao what are you driving?
Just wanted to say, this intro along with the accord sport intro has to be some of the best audio-togaphry I've ever seen, it's become a 'cliche' on your channel,
"Damn dude, love your cinematics, never seen it done like this, you deserve a million subscribers AND a paid meal at Arby's"
But man, it can't be any truer, despite being 30 seconds the most, I put on my headphones and every now and then watch the intros just because it's such an eye and ear(?) candy.
I love that the ad for this BMW review is for "FAMOUS ANUS", I must assume it's a memoir for a whole BMW driver. How cheeky.
Jack, you forgot the Stelvio. That beast is quite quick!
Everybody forgets the fabulous Alfa's. The most disrespected brand on the road....in America. Europeans get it. I love the Stelvio. Extremely cool SUV.
Would like to see a Stelvio review!
Because Jack knows, that by the time they might get an Alfa to test, FCA will have sent the brand running back to Italy, or to its death.
1:49 papa boris would be proud
cheeki breeki
Taking my BMW to the club with my girlfriend Danusha while I leave my wife at home.
100% blyatiful
I have to say: the production quality of this video is on a new level for you guys. Nicely done!
As an X340M owner, I totally agree about the rough pavement issues even on my less sporty version ( it’s annoyingly harsh) and how and where would I utilize all that power without getting a huge amount of fines :) ! Thank you for your work!
Do you have the adaptive suspension?
@@xavriz yes!!! 🤦♂️
@@RussianSkiAmateurs 19 or 20 inch wheels. Can you truly feel a difference from sport and comfort adaptive suspension modes?
What do you think about the X3 M40i as a compromise for comfort over the M? I heard it rides softer, but can still do 0-60 in 4.6 seconds.
I feel that the X3 M40i is the sweet spot. It rides better and it's more than fast enough!
My friend has both (X3MC and X3 M40i). He drives the comp package and his wife drives the M40i. She already had hers as they were preparing to move from CA to WY. His F80 M3 was traded for the X3MC and he's happy with it as a replacement for that car. Unless you just have to have the M, save the money and get the M40i. According to him, it rides better, sounds great, offers significant savings over the M versions, and the lease and finance offers from BMW are far more aggressive.
M40i + tune = best compromise
also there's plenty of aftermarket support for the b58 in the x3 m40i, so even tho the s58 has a stronger bottom end and makes more power stock, you can still modify the b58 with basic upgrades (tune, downpipe, injectors, less restrictive air filter and exhaust) and you can boost the hp quite a bit, I've heard the b58 can handle 600hp as is which is awesome, and you can do it for less than the price difference of the x40i vs x3m.
zErO tO SiXtY herrdur
Who else is pooping?? @Savagegeese is the best stool tool for colon comfort. Great content Mr Goose
I drove an X4 Competition. I would prefer the X3M variant, but I get it after driving it. Big enough for my mountain bike in the back. But some winter tires on it and go through feet of snow. Small performance hit for the height / weight. I hate to say it, but I loved it!
A lot of these cars just seem like a desperate scramble for market share. It's a stinky cologne and all that...
That's funny considering X3 out sells almost all it's competitors
@@davidlegkodukh6969 Then I guess it's working for them. The optics are still the same.
Yep, but people are buying it. I don't understand. We're in a very shaky economy right now, and the people who buy these aren't filthy rich people, it's your everyday American who makes good money but still feels the need to keep up with the Joneses. Those are the people that buy these things and for the money they're charging for this.... no fuckin' way!!
TheHvk I couldn’t said any better
@@MrHav1k blame government and union leaders in Germany the overpriced. When business costs go up for Corporation so does the wholesale price for dealership to loan them to sell too consumers like you
I love my 2020 X3m competition,the lack of a true comfort suspension mode is true,but can be easily remedied.A true all in one vehicle imho
Really the regular X3 with base six cylinder is plenty fast enough.
You only get the 6 cylinder with the m40i. I have one and year it is plenty fast.
In our family we have 3, 2 - 35i and 1 35i m pack. Those are plenty fine cars. Even the m pack is enough with the electric dampeners and nicer stuff. M is just overkill and just the way it’s supposed to be.
Yeah but I like whooping Coyotes at stoplights
The base x3s are hideous though. All those silver plastic bits on every side of the car. It looks so clumsy and weak. The m40i is the sweet spot. Obviously black out all the silver/matte copper crap.
Like the others have said, the I6 is in the m40i, not the base model. I bought one new last year and it's freakin awesome. I love it so much.
With a price tag of around $75 000, there shouldn't be the word Mexico anywhere on this thing.
@2:35 we can see Jack without his medication here... lol!
BTW, nice shout out to The Straight Pipes there @13:19.
@Nissan370Z Glass
Probably. Certainly not made in Germany anyway!
1:49 Opaaaaa!!!!!
I find it funny how people are comparing a new BMW to 20k used S2000 and comparing them for value as a sports car. The X3M is not trying to be an M3, it‘s trying to be a compromise - which is exactly why it is a compromise.
We car guys don‘t like it cause it‘s an M which is not sporty enough for us, but it‘s not really marketed at us. It is marketed at people with the needs that the owner of this car describes in the video.
I think it‘s a nice car but I would not like to pay 70k for it, since it‘s not what I‘m looking for.
BMW X3 M40i THE SWEET SPOT !!!!
Speed is X3M always
Cross overs for the lose
Just buy the 340i you git
Ariel Lubonja but if u need hatch for practicality, since we don’t have a wagon, x3 m40i would be the closest thing.
@@ABeans07 you made that you're losing to crossovers now?
I would actually say the biggest competitor to this would be the Alfa Romeo Stelvio QV.
wave runner nobody drives those
GLC63 is better than X3M, Alfa is better than GLC63.
Horrible riding , so very true, Blame it on the “Run Flats “ change them out to normal tyres and there you go 👍🏻, love you honesty in your reviews 👍🏻
I will take an m550d touring over this any day...
I realy dont understand this SUV trend...
cannot agree more, a lot of people say its a lot safer , but statistics don't comply!
You do know, there only is an m550d touring? However, if there were an m550i touring, it would be a great car... Gotta go with a B5 Alpina instead I guess
do they sell the touring in the US?
That car is about 10-15k more
It targeted for buyers with extrme lifestyles, mountain biking , sking , snow boarding, rock climbing, Canoing you go off road to go to most of these Destination
Drove this and now I drive the new X3M competition. Big difference
I completely agree with everything u said, im sending this to my friend who is on the fence about x3m or the softer msport x3
Tell your friend to check out the X3 M40
Savage geese is the only channel as far I know who delves into more of the unknown and deeper styles of copyright free music instead of those standard TH-cam music! (:
The amount of power in the current M cars is just mind boggling. Hard to really extract all that power unless on a track. I think the X3 M40i might be a better choice as a daily. Even the M550i is such a fast car that I think the M5 might be overkill. Or I’m just getting old lol.
I had an X3 M40i and considering an X3M. X3M is so much better it's not even funny. A true M car.
This video is ranked number 5 right now for "bmw".....not too shabby goose. Number 1 for the term "x3m". I was just going to honk at you about the choices for your tags lol...and there you go toppin the charts...noice work. 👍
This car is for the married guys that had to buy an suv but wanted something fast😂
@Sawa Bull didn't know that was a thing.
Choice of which one ever breakdown least.
These fast SUVs are those who don't want to give up their (but have to) sports sedans/coupes, and whose wife is allowing them to get the performance version of it. From a driving dynamic standpoint, I cannot see why someone would immediately gravitate towards this first and say "I want an X3M" without having to explain some reasoning after it versus an M340i.
Sawa Bull a Cherokee SRT wouldn’t see which way this X3M Competition went. If you mean a Track Hawk that’s barely any faster either
@Sawa Bull family man need something wont breakdown fast.
X3 M competition can do 0-100 km/hour in 3.3 seconds! OMG the fastest suv in the market ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😘 the best of the best!
1:49 Iiiiiits Boris, [hardbass plays]
slav king is here!
@@LifeofBoris privet Boris! I see we have common interests
I love my 2021 Donington Gray / Sahkir X3M Competition. It rides a little rough but with 503 hp I can deal with it. Great channel guys.
would be really interested in your thoughts on the x3 m40i? would it offer the suppleness of ride with usable power?
I went from the m40i to the x3m comp. The m40i is definitely the sweet spot. It's still REALLY good performance, better fuel economy, and FAR better ride. I had to be extra and go with more power, but the m40i really is a treat.
The video editing is gorgeous 👍
Try the Alfa Romeo stelvio quadrifoglio
Hideous car
@@001spring Its gorgeous and the aesthetics are far from Its biggest issue.
Please don’t mention that auto maker in the same sentence 🤣👍🏼
It is more rear on the road and looks more special than X3 that has countless amount of variants.
@@ScottSellsSoCal Which one do you own? BMW or Alfa?
Great review as always. I hate the fanboy non realistic reviews on here ( most car reviews). Your reviews map reality and practicality with the true nature of the car. Please continue this great very honest, not lame ass fanboy reviews.
I think I’d rather swing for a Trackhawk. Having a supercharged V8 in an AWD JGC provides a more raw and brute experience.
The X3M Competition is a sharp machine, with precision and grace. It’s more civilized. It might be even better than the Trackhawk.
I'd be interested in finding out what the gas mileage is for the x3m. The Trackhawk has abysmally bad mpg. It's fun to ride in, but it destroys you at the pump.
Ramad Jones probably better. But you buy a Trackhawk knowing that you efficiency sucks.
Ramad Jones my parents have a bmw x4m competition and that averages around 15mpg, lowest I’ve seen it go is 12mpg but that was after a day of thrashing it up and down the motorways and the trip had recently been re set
@@XBeastlyxgamingX X3M/4M are amazing SUV’s, it’s just a matter of preference. An X4 should still be stupid fun.
@@msrr1303 100% mate, sadly I only know of like 5 trackhawks in the uk and because there's so few of them there like over 100k so for that money the interior quality and a few over factors make it hard to choose over something like a range rover svr or X5m comp. We went for the x4m comp as we didn't need a car as big as the x5m and the x4m with a tune is quicker. Would love to see a track hawk on the road tho
The X5M competition is the one to do. We had the first one in the region in the hot blue. Fastest production SUV currently.
These SUVs don’t make sense to me. Uncomfortable as daily driver yet nowhere near as fun as a sports car.
Unless your on a race track or speeding these types of vehicle are nice as a daily commute easier to get in and out of.
This is what people don’t understand, but BMW knows people will buy a $100K sports SUV so they do it still. They’re just catering to the market as they should.
Makes sense for people with extrme lifestyles, that go off road to most destination
Ben Chesterman but sporty SUVs like this suck at off roading. Not even the standard X3 is good at it.
@@wax333 this thing has way too much power for a daily commuter. Most of it's power is wasted for people who refuse to speed way over the limit. And bringing something like this to a race track all I can do is laugh, nobody who buys this is gonna be doing that. This is basically a drag racing SUV with bad ride quality...you can surprise people at stoplights for laughs like a sleeper car that's about it. "OMG that SUV smoked my Mustang!" The higher center of gravity means it's never gonna be able to handle turns like a true sports car but hey I guess it can kind of compete in the American muscle car segment?
Here in the USA we don’t get the performance wagon so this is the closest option. The RS6 Avant in 110k starting and we got the X3M out the door for 68k cash - happy with the deal and performance for the $ to carry the two kids and dog ;) Ciao!
"You can throw a 5,000 hp motor in a garbage truck it is still a garbage truck" lol
nice review. how is the reliability like? after what time or how many miles does it start breaking down or giving problems?
The X3 M40i is definitely the sweet spot in the range. Still get a good engine with the b58 and it rides well. I don't see the point in jumping up to the full blown m model.
Having owned the 2019 X3 with just the 2.0T and driven the M40i, I’d actually say that’s the one most people should buy. That being said, I’d probably get the M40i if I were to buy another one just because but the turbo 4 is really a great engine.
I have an m3 and drove a x3 m40i once. The x3 is a very good car to drive, but m3 is a total different experience.
My obligatory BMW post:
BMW should put a *Depreciation Gauge* on the dashboard right next to the tachometer. It would have to be something like a calendar / odometer combo gauge, with a dollar figure overlay, so you could see just how much value your new BMW is losing with every passing mile, and every passing day. This gauge would run continually in the background, so that when you get into the vehicle after a prolonged absence, it would be able to tell you exactly how much less it is worth since the last time you drove it. I would also suggest that they include a *Doomsday / Sunset* feature with the depreciation gauge, (they could market it as a package!). This feature would activate when the car has achieved *Maximum Worthlessness* , which can best be described as the point where it would make more sense financially to have it crushed and made into a coffee table, than it would to replace the carbon ceramic brakes.
Great review I own and X3m and it’s tuned with downpipes and I walk track hawks and even m5s m6s anything that came my way good opinion on it good review what u said is all true car is so so fast it’s an new m3 buffed up and higher
Smoking m5s and 6s 🤣🤣🤣🤣 go back to bed little boy !!!
@@tristategaragedoorservices3382 Lmao a X3M with E85 runs 10.5-10.7 at 130+ in the quarter mile it'll smoke them any day
The reason for this type of vehicle is those drivers who want a sports car that can carry your golf clubs, and have comfortable access into and exiting the vehicle. I have back and sciatica problems at times and getting in and out of a regular high vehicle aggravate my condition. I like Jack's perspective of the car.
A lawyer opened the door of his BMW when suddenly a car came along and hit the door, ripping it off completely. When the police arrived at the scene, the lawyer was complaining bitterly about the damage to his precious BMW. "Officer, look what they've done to my Beeemer!!!", he whiningly said. "You lawyers are so materialistic, you make me sick!!!" retorted the officer, "You're so worried about your stupid BMW, that you didn't even notice that your left arm was ripped off!!!" "Oh my god....", replied the lawyer, finally noticing the bloody left shoulder where his arm once was, "Where's my Rolex?"
I love my x3m now! The s58 is truly the best engine of all time.
Hey guys, great video! Could you please review the BMW Z3? I‘m looking to buy one and I really would like to see a review by you guys. 😊
honestly surprised by how positive this video actually was. I thought he was going to hate it from the title lol
“This is still an SUV, I can’t get excited for it, goodbye” 🤣
Which is why we love SavageGeese
I’m obviously not a fan of SUVs, but if I were getting one-this would be it
Sorry, regardless of the performance I just can't get behind the "sporty" SUV segment. If you want sports car dynamics with practicality, why not buy a wagon?
Same. It's a comment some people dislike reading, but it's true for the vast majority of us. You cannot have road contact feel in these big bloated bath tubs on wheels.
A valid question. I had a modded Legacy GT wagon. I loved it. However, there is something about the seating position of an SUV, and its added ground clearance if you live in snow country, that makes it somehow more desirable.
hugolafhugolaf true dat
Only rational reason I see is that in some nasty or third world places around the world you really do need the ride height and sliver of increased off-road capability in order to not completely destroy and ruin your car. For example I live in Eastern Europe and drive a Volvo wagon with 13 cm ground clearance but I can't tell you how many times I've hit my oil pan and nearly cracked it open, or destroyed my exhaust. . You can't even park near a curb here without fearing of destroying the front bumper because they're so high. That's why the Lamborghini Urus has been a hit with rich people in countries like Russia, India or other places with terrible roads. Unfortunately, it seems Illinois, Michigan and other places in the US fit this mold.
Why not buy a wagon?
The answer is simple
Vanity
Perfect timing, 17-minute video. 18 minutes until my next conference call.
The TLDR of this video is: "we're working on a video of C8 now, .........." I forget the rest
This video was hilarious 😂 I didn't expect to enjoy a BMW suv video this much. You guys are the best.
Is he again being nice to us in that reflection from the logo / intro at 0:27 ? What is he doing ? ;)
Wow what vision you have son👍
Good catch. Looks like he's rubbing one out to german performance :)
I tried to rewind and figure it out like 10 times. Seems like stretching something between his hands?
The M treatment is over the top for just a daily driver CUV. Totally agree there. I’d just go with the M40i personally if I was going to get an X3.
would love to hear your thoughts on the m340 - seems like a good combination of performance + daily driver, but price is kinda nuts for what it is.
Wrong it good value, the basic 340 didn't get m package for $50000usd in 2018 , the M pack standard now for $54000usd . M4 comp is $80000usd that expensive really . But you can blame Germany Government and Union leaders greed in Germany it expensive. You can't compare price to car built in capitalist country like USA
Great reveiw on the most important details instead of trying to cover everything because you did it on the last X3 review. I have great roads and I love it! It is crazy fast and everytime I get in it I get excited like I do getting suited up for a ride on my Triump 765 street triple RS! Listen to that engine. BMW made a turbo 6 sound intoxicating. That interior sound is not pumped in and no crackles and pops like my X3M40 i and at first I missed it but crackles and pops get old.
"Does the M stand for Mexico?"
LOL
That’s why you gotta go M3 or M4. German car in name AND origin.
It does in 2020!
Made in Mexico? 😬
Seriously. BMW built a stat of the art plant in Greenville/Spartenburg SC USA 25 years ago. X3,X4,x5,X6,X7 are all made there for the entire world. Watch a video on the production of one of the models and see that a plant in US is just as good or better than one in Germany or Japan. You probably will never be able to afford one even 10 years old but if you could you will see it is a monster and will outperform a Mercedes, Porsche, Alfa, Jag for thousands less.
Is this necessary = will it sell/make money?
I have an X3 M40i I keep at my holiday home, amazing performance, sound and ride quality. Test drove the X3M, that ride comfort is bone crushingly hard, utterly unpleasant, and actually feels too fast. The X5M gives a much better ride, firm but not unpleasant, and has much the same performance but that chassis and setup is a far better fit for it. I elected to get the X5M50i for the balance of performance, ride quality, handling and luxury.
It's awesome
The lights on the garage looks like a Red Lights District, not like a car review....but i love your channel,you are the best man.
Can a person fix the suspension???
MSS springs fixes it. See Evolve video th-cam.com/video/KKILRps04M4/w-d-xo.html
@@Anders_HeymSR30 - Awesome; thanks. Watching it now!
4:12 onwards,” the big boys only buy M5…” Baller!
Idk man a 5000 hp garbage truck sounds kinda cool to me
I feel like every statement where BMW is commended for their prioritization of handling and balance should get an asterisk thanks to the BMW 2 Gran Coupe.
The quality of videos has definitely improved since the new presenter’s introduction
I trust your reviews so much and you the only serious straight to business review
you have really good knowledge and after watching your videos I learnt few things about cars.
I'm sure the 75 yrs-old couple who usually buy these things totally needs the 3 sec. 0-60 capability. I'll look for those next time I follow a left-lane hogger.
...or a businessman with a very small 🌶️😑
....or a businesswoman with a very large 🤷🌮
75 years old couple buy corvettes
On the other hand, I use the same generation X3 to explore abandoned mines in Nevada (special-ordered a version with spare for running over 70-year-old nails while 30 miles east of Gabbs). It rides tons better than Wrangler than I had before. And, I sleep in the back. And, I can throw all the long guns lengthwise.
As always, music is TOP NOTCH! What is it? (:
Shazam it
I believe he makes it
Mike Jacobsen yeah, he said that once on a podcast with smoking tires. But thats not completely true I quess because that short piece of music at 7:27 is a copyright free song that I know..
웅이 Shazam is beeing a bitch again... 🙄
Savage geese is the only channel as far I know who delves into more of the unknown and deeper styles of copyright free music instead of those standard TH-cam music! (:
Reasonable review. I'd like to think that "value proposition" is very much subjective.
It's amazing how much money people will spend to delude themselves that they're not driving a mom-mobile.
I agree. But at the same time, people have families and why not drive something fast even if you have kids.
Seriously. You could get a 550i for the same money. And in Europe a 550i wagon.
Let's say you have kids. Its a strong choice then. Throw in the kids get them to soccer like a mom. Drive 200Kmp/h on the way back :)
@@davec.3198 because distracted mom's shouldn't be speeding in a 2.5 ton machine.
@@alansmilealot I put my wife in a big safe vehicle because I care about their safety. My wife isn't a moron. There are still some out there that are driving well.
Mechanical Extravagansa had me paying close Attention!
Who actually uses this performance in a daily though? A few seconds into the pedal and you're gonna get arrested.
Depends on the road you have near by, fast blasts on back roads on a Sunday morning won't get your arrested.
Nobody, they just like the idea of the power, even if they have no need or driving ability to use most of it
No one... People who buy this don't go to track days to fully exploit this power. But even if they did the brakes on these vehicles are not going to last on a track day due to the sheer weight. Total BS these SUVs...
This needs 5 heat exchangers! Two radiators, two oil coolers, and a transmission cooler. You can start to see where electric will be the easy answer in the future as it just wants to make more power, not more heat.