Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been searching for such a long time, before I found this. Almost, no one addresses the function of adjusting Amber, blue, green, and magenta. You explained it perfectly, and now I have a much better understanding of it.subscribed.
Thanks! Great as always. So painful that that you cannot custom WB while in a pre set mode. Ridiculous and have requested it frequently to Sony Pro Support.
Yes that would be really useful Simon. I'd also like to be able to see what AWB is doing with shifts rather than just showing the override values and visual results.
PAUL! Another banger!! The custom WB settings using the color checker are going to come in so f*%%^ing handy ESPECIALLY when shooting in SLOG (which was extremely difficult for me to nail WB, gamma assist on or off) or on commercial sites where I have zero control of the lighting. You have the best, most CONCISE, and most informative content regarding the FX3 and my skills with this camera have improved thanks to you. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
How can I set FX3 WB? I cannot capture (i.e. set) WB from MR1-3, which prompts: "The operation or setting not available as follows: Shoot Mode/Memory Recall." I'm forced to back out of MR, capture WB in Movie or Still Mode, then return to my MR and enter WB K value. Can you (or anyone) shed some light here? How are you capturing WB while in MR mode? What am I missing? -Colton
This vid makes me want to stop and go through all your vids and just make a whole day of experimenting and experiencing the joy of knowing how these tools are supposed to be used. Thx
I have been using my camera wrong this entire time. Shame on me. Wow. Thank you this video just changed everything for me!!! Ordering color checker now.
@@PaulJoy yes your channel is my personal coach now for my fx3. Only issue I’m having now is getting my rode wires less go to record into the top handle. Shotgun mic works fine. Put when I add the rode it doesn’t record anything. After I figure that out I should be good to go. 🫡🙃
Very helpful. Sony's color palette favors blues and greens. For AWB I set A-B to A1 and G-M to M1.5 for a quick result. This is certainly a subjective attitude. What do you recommend?
Hi Gerry, I tend to make any required corrections in post however I’d say using WB to get closer to the results you want out of camera is a good way of working. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much for the video. WB was always an issue for me, before watching this video. I have a Sony ZV-E1 and when I try to set the WB using a grey card while am filmming Slog3 (+2.0 Exposed), the overall color turn into green. why is that?
Great stuff. Thank you. I am going to shoot in a cannabis legal producer tomorrow and the lights are HPS. Got a filter just for that. Looking forward to do my first custom WB. What is the app on your phone?
It’s set as part of the white balance process but there’s nothing to stop you from adjusting them manually. Sure ideally you’d adjust it using scopes but there are times when you can see there’s a visible colour shift just using the screen on the camera.
Not at all, a grey card or even white paper is fine for a custom white balance. The colour checker is a good choice as it also allows you to adjust colours in post to be accurate but not necessary just for white balancing.
I'm shooting in cine EI on the FX3 and noticed I can't set manual white balance off a card. Is this because cine EI only handles 3 set white balance presets like slog2 in the Sony FS5 for instance?
Agreed, that is a pain but I can see why they do it. They want the white balance settings stored as part of the memory. A better way would be to store the setting but still allow adjustment until memory recalled again.
I have worked into this recently as well. The reason was that my camera (A7R III) tends to produce images that are shifted towards red/magenta if you don't shoot RAW (so, the problem applies to JPG and MP4), IF YOU USE THE WB PRESETS (!). I have played around quite a lot with these A-B and G-M values to remove it, however the final solution for me was using the Kelvin scale and setting it manually. Somehow, these presets are too warm and always result in strange yellow/red tones. For Daylight, I had to go down to 4500-5000K to get accurate colours. I guess the standard one is at 5200-5600. "Daylight" is the one that is usable the most, but "Overcast" and "Shadow" are really extremely problematical. I wish you could just edit the standard Kelvin values for these presets. I am not quite sure where this comes from. Recently I saw a video that Tamron lenses tend to produce more yellowish colours, so maybe half the problem comes from my lenses. With RAWs, you can correct and sort this out, but with MP4s, fixing colours isn't such a joy so it must be as close to the "final" product as possible in terms of realistic colours. Concerning your video, I'd say you gave a very good explanation people can relate to if they want to want to work themselves into this topic, especially going beyond "I just use AWB" or having different sources of light in a scene. Very helpful!
Lenses can certainly have an effect on colour shift but by far the most reliable method with video is to to do a custom white balance in each location. It’s not the most practical but will give the most accurate results.
On the FX30, is there a way to toggle through two WB modes easily (with one button) like the FX6? I would love to create a 3200k-3600k for indoor light and one for 5600k for daylight. It would be nice to be able to tap into each temperature with one switch kinda like the Native ISO switch between 800 and 2500.
Why the heck does the FX3 not have Custom white balance like the A7sIII and other Sony cameras? Totally frustrating... I guess doing Custom like you showed here is the only way at the moment....
@@PaulJoy Well my problem is, usually when I start a shot I click on custom white balance and there is a white square and I take a picture and it sets the white balance on my A7rIII but with the FX when ever I try to use custom white balance it says due to my shooting mode, memory recall, I cannot set the new white balance. Totally frustrating bc I have M1 M2 M3 set for my 3 different shooting modes. 24p, 60p,120p. why the White balance cannot be set customily while being in the modes is stupid. Sorry I do not have the A7sIII but I thought I saw it is set just like the other Sony cameras like my A7rIII.
I'm having an issue with the custom white balance setting on the FX3. I've followed the instructions on a few different TH-cam tutorials on this process, but every time I set the custom white balance it sets is as >9900K. I'm using a middle gray card, and also setting proper exposure before hand. I've tried it in multiple lighting scenarios (tungsten light at night, daylight indoors and outdoors). I feel like I have something set up wrong but I can't figure out what. Any thoughts?
@@PaulJoy I am using Sony FE 4 PZ 16-35mm G, and a Sony FE 1.8 35mm lenses. Last night I was shooting a few test scenes and for some reason the custom white balance worked properly. No idea why...I didn't change the way I had done it before. But, all that matters is it's working now. Thank you for responding and trying to help:) I enjoy your videos!
New subscriber here, this is video great - clear and informative. One thing I'm struggling with - on the A7Siii, it won't let me set a custom white balance when I'm using one of my 3 custom shooting modes (C1 C2 C3, which I always use). So I switch the dial to movie mode, set my white balance using a card, and it says the custom WB has been captured. But then when I switch back to C1 and then select custom WB1, the setting is not what has just been captured. So - how do I set a custom WB when using custom modes? Sorry for the long and rambling comment!
Unfortunately it’s a limitation with the way Sony have implemented the memory modes as they always recall the stored setting and do not allow you to do another custom balance while using that selection.
Thanks very helpful. Im hoping I can still keep using AWB like I do on my Nikon D750 when I buy a Sony A7R5. I believe the AWB has really been improved on that camera. I just don't have the time to keep resetting WB on my type of work. So fingers crossed Sony has made AWB a bit more useable.
What should I do to have that square on the display, which I can use to select the source for AWB? E.g. the color checker? Like you have in your video at 1:25
Hello, very helpful video. This does not explain though what is wrong with software engineers at Sony. They built the firmware so that you can't set the white balance in any MR1 to MR3 modes, only if you're in Movie or manual. Then if you are in Movie, you can't preload the MR settings prior to set WB so that you have all other configuration ready to shoot! I am soooo pissed off!
muchas gracias me has ayudado mucho tengo una fx30 y estoy un poco confuso no se usarla pero por tip muy utile y por cierto explicas muy muy bien un gran abrazo -- Thank you very much you have helped me a lot I have an fx30 and I'm a little confused I don't know how to use it but for a very useful tip and by the way you explain very very well a big hug
i have a problem with white setting on sony fx3. I can't do it when I'm in MR 1... a black screen appears that mw says that option is not available. thank you very much for your help
Yes you can’t set a custom while balance while in a memory recall mode. Sony need to change that so that it works like other settings in that they can be modified but will revert to the stored setting.
After watching this video I imported some footage into Davinci Resolve and it was perfectly white balanced and the color graphs were all even. Thanks! This will save me countless hours of time editing.
Good explanation, thank you. two questions. On the Sony FX3. Usingone of the customs1, ,2 or 3 is it similar to shooting a white card with a video camera to white balance .? 2nd Q, can you do black balance on the Sony FX 3? Thanks
Hi there. Yes custom white balance measures white in the same way as traditional video cameras although with the smaller target box. No there’s no black balance on the FX3.
Hey Paul, great video as always! One further question: How do you deal with setting custom white balances while being in one of the 3 custom menus. Till now I didn’t find a turn around other than setting the camera to video mode and setting a custom white balance and then copy that number over to the custom menu. Do you have a better way to solve this? Cheers!
Thanks Dara. I haven't used them at all until this point as I prefer to switch settings as I go so I don't have a solution to offer I'm afraid. I guess it's by design with the white balance as you might want to set a memory recall that has a specific white balance for a room you often shoot in or specific lights etc. So does it lock you out of the WB settings altogether?
@@PaulJoy yeah while being in a custom menu you cannot switch to manual video mode. With that you cannot set a custom white balance per „taking a photo“ as you showed in the video.
@@daranaseri Oh I see what you mean now. Each Memory Recall records it's own set of three custom WB settings and you cant change them. Yes thats a bit silly as it should work the same as the rest of the settings and set them to the recorded values but allow you to temporarily adjust them.
@@PaulJoy I have the R6 and haven’t gotten the images out of it in video that I’d like. I am thinking of selling and moving to a7s 3 or a7iv - not sure those are that much better or easier to get cinematic looks. Any thoughts
@@jaymills1720 I've not tried the R6 but honestly from what I've seen it should be capable of producing cinematic looking footage. Are you shooting log and grading in post or trying to get that look straight out of the camera? FX3 and A7iv produce very similar looking images however the FX3 handles rolling shutter way better and has better high frame-rate support. The A7iv is better for photography though but with both cameras cameras being very capable at 4K/25 they make a good A/B Cam pair and I have tools that excel at both photography and videography.
@@PaulJoy yea the problem is I was thinking I could get those cinematic images SOOC and it seems I’ll have to learn to grade log on resolve which isn’t a simple task. If the fx3 was easier to get an image compared to canon I’d switch. More people use a7s3 than r6 and I use x100v for photos so don’t need a hybrid camera. Worry I’d sell and spend another $2k just to be in the San situation of needing to grade a bit.
Excellent and concise, and especially useful is the last tip on locking the AWB. I'm used to cameras that have a white balance button on the front. This is a great way to do it on the FX3 (or FX30 which is what I have). Thanks for the helpful video.
Thanks for being so detailed -- very informative. One question: is setting white balance purely a matter of altering the Kelvin value? Can I set white balance by just twiddling the Kelvin value and observing the effect in the LCD monitor. Or do the tools on the Sony A7 help guide the user to a more reliable result?
Hi Robert. You can totally dial in the kelvin value by eye as long as you have an accurate monitor and many people work that way. The kelvin value however only adjusts the amber to blue value (daylight to tungsten) so this doesn’t take in to account any green to magenta influences that may be effecting the scene. You can also take those in to account manually too, maybe there should be a green shift in the image or maybe that’s an effect your looking for. Auto white balancing tools adjust both the amber to blue and magenta to green shifts, whereas kelvin only adjusts amber to blue.
@@PaulJoy Hi Paul. Thanks so much for explaining about green to magenta, something I never knew before. I have a Sony A7R4A... does this cam also make adjustments for green to magenta automatically when I adjust white balance pointing the camera at a white card ? Previously I thought white balance was purely adjusting the Kelvin value. Do most cameras with a module for adjusting white balance just adjust the Kelvin value, without adjusting for green to magenta? I have a Panasonic FZ300 that has a method for adjusting white balance pointing at a white card... do you know whether this would also do green to magenta.
@@robertlightbourne2217 Hi Robert. I believe most auto white balancing cameras take green / magenta shift in to account as well as amber to blue as both axis are required in order to achieve an accurate white.
Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been searching for such a long time, before I found this. Almost, no one addresses the function of adjusting Amber, blue, green, and magenta. You explained it perfectly, and now I have a much better understanding of it.subscribed.
You're very welcome, thanks for the sub :)
Thanks! Great as always.
So painful that that you cannot custom WB while in a pre set mode. Ridiculous and have requested it frequently to Sony Pro Support.
Yes that would be really useful Simon. I'd also like to be able to see what AWB is doing with shifts rather than just showing the override values and visual results.
You still can't set WB when in these preset modes right? Blows my mind. Unless I've missed a software update?!! Do you know?
Yeah. I came here to figure this out. Pretty bad to not enable that Sony
(Auto White Balance is working fine for me)
Great stuff, thanks for sharing.
After watching your video, I realized how little I know about WB settings in Sony cameras. Thank you.
Seriously, the same thing happens to me when I make them!
PAUL! Another banger!! The custom WB settings using the color checker are going to come in so f*%%^ing handy ESPECIALLY when shooting in SLOG (which was extremely difficult for me to nail WB, gamma assist on or off) or on commercial sites where I have zero control of the lighting. You have the best, most CONCISE, and most informative content regarding the FX3 and my skills with this camera have improved thanks to you. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
That’s fab Abe, thanks for the lovely comment. Have fun.
@@PaulJoy will do thanks again Paul.
How can I set FX3 WB? I cannot capture (i.e. set) WB from MR1-3, which prompts:
"The operation or setting not available as follows: Shoot Mode/Memory Recall."
I'm forced to back out of MR, capture WB in Movie or Still Mode, then return to my MR and enter WB K value.
Can you (or anyone) shed some light here? How are you capturing WB while in MR mode? What am I missing?
-Colton
Unfortunately you're not missing anything, you can't change the custom WB in MR modes. This is a common complaint so you're not alone!
@@PaulJoy thx for the prompt response. appreciate your content. 🤟
This vid makes me want to stop and go through all your vids and just make a whole day of experimenting and experiencing the joy of knowing how these tools are supposed to be used. Thx
Really pleased you like the videos, thanks loads for letting me know.
Auto WB lock if restart camera needs lock again?
I've not tried that but I'd expect not, same with auto exposure lock, the lock will be gone if power cycled.
That was the best video so far to help me understand white balance options for my new Alpha 1. Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for letting me know.
Awesome video, now tell me how I do custom white balance for video when In a memory recall setting :) Sony needs to fix that
Yup, that’s a common request.
I have been using my camera wrong this entire time. Shame on me. Wow. Thank you this video just changed everything for me!!! Ordering color checker now.
Really pleased it helped, and good choice with the color checker, I didn't have one for years and now it's used almost every shoot.
@@PaulJoy yes your channel is my personal coach now for my fx3. Only issue I’m having now is getting my rode wires less go to record into the top handle. Shotgun mic works fine. Put when I add the rode it doesn’t record anything. After I figure that out I should be good to go. 🫡🙃
Very helpful.
Sony's color palette favors blues and greens. For AWB I set A-B to A1 and G-M to M1.5 for a quick result. This is certainly a subjective attitude. What do you recommend?
Hi Gerry, I tend to make any required corrections in post however I’d say using WB to get closer to the results you want out of camera is a good way of working. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much for the video. WB was always an issue for me, before watching this video. I have a Sony ZV-E1 and when I try to set the WB using a grey card while am filmming Slog3 (+2.0 Exposed), the overall color turn into green. why is that?
That can happen if you try to white balance and the exposure isn’t good.
Great stuff. Thank you. I am going to shoot in a cannabis legal producer tomorrow and the lights are HPS. Got a filter just for that. Looking forward to do my first custom WB.
What is the app on your phone?
Good luck with the shoot. The app is Sidus Link for controlling Aperture Lights.
@@PaulJoy Merci!
Just found your channel. This is a great tutorial. Everything important is well explained. I liked and subscribed 😊👍🏻 keep up that good work
Thanks loads for letting me know it helped and welcome to the channel. More content coming soon.
Doesn't the A-B and G-M settings rely on an accurate monitor? Or can this be seen on a scope?
It’s set as part of the white balance process but there’s nothing to stop you from adjusting them manually. Sure ideally you’d adjust it using scopes but there are times when you can see there’s a visible colour shift just using the screen on the camera.
incredible informative and helped me to figure out couple of important things! thank you!!! 👋👋👋
Thanks so much for letting me know it helped.
Do I need an expensive color checker with all the colors or would a simple grey/white card be enough? (for video)
Not at all, a grey card or even white paper is fine for a custom white balance. The colour checker is a good choice as it also allows you to adjust colours in post to be accurate but not necessary just for white balancing.
I'm shooting in cine EI on the FX3 and noticed I can't set manual white balance off a card. Is this because cine EI only handles 3 set white balance presets like slog2 in the Sony FS5 for instance?
No, you should be able to use custom white balance options in Cine EI.
My Sony FX30 does not allow me to do custom white balance, the SET button is greyed out in Custom 1, 2 & 3 settings. Any suggestions?
Hmm, no not seen that Nishi. What shooting mode are you using?
Great video but 1 question can you change all this AWB setting durring REC ?
Good question, I’ve not tried that as I balance before the shot. Will have to try.
In the sony a7iii I used a white card to modulate the white balance in the fx3 I don't get the option
You should be able to set white balance using a card, in fact that's exactly what I show in this video!
This video was awesome. Never knew you could lock the auto white balance. Game changer
Thanks Joseph, yes locking the AWB is super useful!
Me too! Just set it up and life is easier ;)
What scenario would the auto wb lock be the most useful for?
Wow those custom buttons ! Seems like we are cheating !! Thanks as always !
Many thanks for this!
You’re very welcome.
One of my main issues with Sony WB is that you cannot use it in memory mode which I always use
Agreed, that is a pain but I can see why they do it. They want the white balance settings stored as part of the memory. A better way would be to store the setting but still allow adjustment until memory recalled again.
I have worked into this recently as well. The reason was that my camera (A7R III) tends to produce images that are shifted towards red/magenta if you don't shoot RAW (so, the problem applies to JPG and MP4), IF YOU USE THE WB PRESETS (!). I have played around quite a lot with these A-B and G-M values to remove it, however the final solution for me was using the Kelvin scale and setting it manually. Somehow, these presets are too warm and always result in strange yellow/red tones. For Daylight, I had to go down to 4500-5000K to get accurate colours. I guess the standard one is at 5200-5600. "Daylight" is the one that is usable the most, but "Overcast" and "Shadow" are really extremely problematical. I wish you could just edit the standard Kelvin values for these presets.
I am not quite sure where this comes from. Recently I saw a video that Tamron lenses tend to produce more yellowish colours, so maybe half the problem comes from my lenses. With RAWs, you can correct and sort this out, but with MP4s, fixing colours isn't such a joy so it must be as close to the "final" product as possible in terms of realistic colours.
Concerning your video, I'd say you gave a very good explanation people can relate to if they want to want to work themselves into this topic, especially going beyond "I just use AWB" or having different sources of light in a scene. Very helpful!
Lenses can certainly have an effect on colour shift but by far the most reliable method with video is to to do a custom white balance in each location. It’s not the most practical but will give the most accurate results.
@@PaulJoy absolutely right.
I did some further tests today and I can finally call this „solved“ after struggling quite some time 😂
On the FX30, is there a way to toggle through two WB modes easily (with one button) like the FX6? I would love to create a 3200k-3600k for indoor light and one for 5600k for daylight. It would be nice to be able to tap into each temperature with one switch kinda like the Native ISO switch between 800 and 2500.
Not as far as I know, you could set memory positions and recall them but that brings with it other limitations.
Why the heck does the FX3 not have Custom white balance like the A7sIII and other Sony cameras? Totally frustrating... I guess doing Custom like you showed here is the only way at the moment....
It does have custom white balance. How does the the a7s3 handle it differently?
@@PaulJoy Well my problem is, usually when I start a shot I click on custom white balance and there is a white square and I take a picture and it sets the white balance on my A7rIII but with the FX when ever I try to use custom white balance it says due to my shooting mode, memory recall, I cannot set the new white balance. Totally frustrating bc I have M1 M2 M3 set for my 3 different shooting modes. 24p, 60p,120p. why the White balance cannot be set customily while being in the modes is stupid. Sorry I do not have the A7sIII but I thought I saw it is set just like the other Sony cameras like my A7rIII.
@@ekphotography Ah yes the way memory recall is implemented makes it impractical and I don't use them at all for that reason.
@@PaulJoy Yes, but they are handy to quickly switch between frame rates...
Oh, OK, so I am not the only one thinking Sony is insane in FX department!
Great thorough video. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very well explained, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm having an issue with the custom white balance setting on the FX3. I've followed the instructions on a few different TH-cam tutorials on this process, but every time I set the custom white balance it sets is as >9900K. I'm using a middle gray card, and also setting proper exposure before hand. I've tried it in multiple lighting scenarios (tungsten light at night, daylight indoors and outdoors). I feel like I have something set up wrong but I can't figure out what. Any thoughts?
It is important to focus and set exposure correctly first but it doesn't sound like that's the problem. What lens are you using?
@@PaulJoy I am using Sony FE 4 PZ 16-35mm G, and a Sony FE 1.8 35mm lenses. Last night I was shooting a few test scenes and for some reason the custom white balance worked properly. No idea why...I didn't change the way I had done it before. But, all that matters is it's working now. Thank you for responding and trying to help:) I enjoy your videos!
@@djjazzyjess6642Glad you got it sorted even if it is is a bit of a mystery :)
That helped a lot
Great stuff!
New subscriber here, this is video great - clear and informative. One thing I'm struggling with - on the A7Siii, it won't let me set a custom white balance when I'm using one of my 3 custom shooting modes (C1 C2 C3, which I always use). So I switch the dial to movie mode, set my white balance using a card, and it says the custom WB has been captured. But then when I switch back to C1 and then select custom WB1, the setting is not what has just been captured.
So - how do I set a custom WB when using custom modes?
Sorry for the long and rambling comment!
Unfortunately it’s a limitation with the way Sony have implemented the memory modes as they always recall the stored setting and do not allow you to do another custom balance while using that selection.
Thanks very helpful. Im hoping I can still keep using AWB like I do on my Nikon D750 when I buy a Sony A7R5. I believe the AWB has really been improved on that camera. I just don't have the time to keep resetting WB on my type of work. So fingers crossed Sony has made AWB a bit more useable.
I’ve not tried that camera but certainly Somy seems to do a good job with AWB.
What should I do to have that square on the display, which I can use to select the source for AWB? E.g. the color checker? Like you have in your video at 1:25
Go to the white balance menu and choose one of the custom white balance settings then move press set
@@PaulJoy Thanks for reply! Yes, but in your video, you have that square even in AWB. I can find it only in Custop WB.
@@fvdronem The square in the middle during the AWB section is because I have expandable spot selected as my focus area.
Hello, very helpful video. This does not explain though what is wrong with software engineers at Sony. They built the firmware so that you can't set the white balance in any MR1 to MR3 modes, only if you're in Movie or manual. Then if you are in Movie, you can't preload the MR settings prior to set WB so that you have all other configuration ready to shoot! I am soooo pissed off!
Yea this has been a common complaint.
muchas gracias me has ayudado mucho tengo una fx30 y estoy un poco confuso no se usarla pero por tip muy utile y por cierto explicas muy muy bien un gran abrazo
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Thank you very much you have helped me a lot I have an fx30 and I'm a little confused I don't know how to use it but for a very useful tip and by the way you explain very very well a big hug
Really pleased the video helped, thanks for the hug :)
i have a problem with white setting on sony fx3. I can't do it when I'm in MR 1... a black screen appears that mw says that option is not available. thank you very much for your help
Yes you can’t set a custom while balance while in a memory recall mode. Sony need to change that so that it works like other settings in that they can be modified but will revert to the stored setting.
This tutorial was to the point and super simple. Thank you Paul!
You’re very welcome, glad it helped.
TY!!!
You’re welcome
Great video. I have such a hard time nailing wb for real estate videos. Thank you
Yes I do some property work and white balance can be a real challenge when interior lighting is fighting daylight.
Awesome video! ❤
Paul, your channel is most helpful. I've leant a lot from them. a BIG thank you.
Thanks for letting me know :)
Answered every single question I had, thanks for the video!
Glad I could help!
this was one of the most well designed educational videos ive ever seen. Great video flow and clarity using those other insets of the lights
Thanks loads for letting me know.
Great content Paul 👍🏻I have the Fx6
Thanks, I’d love to change my FS5 for the FX6, great camera!
Good stuff
After watching this video I imported some footage into Davinci Resolve and it was perfectly white balanced and the color graphs were all even. Thanks! This will save me countless hours of time editing.
Great stuff, glad it helped.
So helpful and well done, thanks!
Glad it was helpful, thanks for letting me know.
Hey, I can’t seem to click Custom WB when shooting slog3 why is that
Which camera are you using?
@@PaulJoy Sony zve1
@@PaulJoy it greys out the option to click custom WB to be able to select the gray/white card
Are you using a custom memory mode? For some strange reason Sony don't let you change the WB when doing that.
@@PaulJoy uuuuh yes I am. That’s probably why. That’s so silly. Thank you for letting me know this. I appreciate that.
thanks, man! this was very helpful
Thanks for letting me know
Good explanation, thank you.
two questions. On the Sony FX3. Usingone of the customs1, ,2 or 3 is it similar to shooting a white card with a video camera to white balance .?
2nd Q, can you do black balance on the Sony FX 3? Thanks
Hi there. Yes custom white balance measures white in the same way as traditional video cameras although with the smaller target box. No there’s no black balance on the FX3.
@@PaulJoy Thank you
Nice!
thank you for this video!
You’re welcome
Thank you. That was awesome.
You're very welcome :)
This was a fantastic tutorial.
Thanks for letting me know :)
Why is this a 10 min video?
I like round numbers!
Thanks for another great tutorial.
Glad you liked it Michael, thanks for letting me know.
What would be a good budget friendly camera to pair with the fx3?
The A74 looks great for what it costs, I’d go for that.
@@PaulJoy I'm grateful for your channel and videos. Very informative, also helpful in so many ways.
You are a life saviour
Pleased it helped :)
Hugely helpful tutorial!!!
Thanks loads for letting me know Francesco.
Hey Paul, great video as always! One further question: How do you deal with setting custom white balances while being in one of the 3 custom menus. Till now I didn’t find a turn around other than setting the camera to video mode and setting a custom white balance and then copy that number over to the custom menu. Do you have a better way to solve this?
Cheers!
Thanks Dara. I haven't used them at all until this point as I prefer to switch settings as I go so I don't have a solution to offer I'm afraid. I guess it's by design with the white balance as you might want to set a memory recall that has a specific white balance for a room you often shoot in or specific lights etc. So does it lock you out of the WB settings altogether?
@@PaulJoy yeah while being in a custom menu you cannot switch to manual video mode. With that you cannot set a custom white balance per „taking a photo“ as you showed in the video.
@@daranaseri Maybe I'm misunderstanding but if I switch to MR1 I can still change the white balance without having to exit to video mode?
@@daranaseri Oh I see what you mean now. Each Memory Recall records it's own set of three custom WB settings and you cant change them. Yes thats a bit silly as it should work the same as the rest of the settings and set them to the recorded values but allow you to temporarily adjust them.
Great channel! Curious have you compared these cameras to the a7iv !?
No I haven't Jay but I would really like to try an a7iv!
Hi Jay. I traded my FS5 in for an A7iv yesterday and I'm really impressed. If you have any specific questions then feel free to ask.
@@PaulJoy I have the R6 and haven’t gotten the images out of it in video that I’d like. I am thinking of selling and moving to a7s 3 or a7iv - not sure those are that much better or easier to get cinematic looks. Any thoughts
@@jaymills1720 I've not tried the R6 but honestly from what I've seen it should be capable of producing cinematic looking footage. Are you shooting log and grading in post or trying to get that look straight out of the camera? FX3 and A7iv produce very similar looking images however the FX3 handles rolling shutter way better and has better high frame-rate support. The A7iv is better for photography though but with both cameras cameras being very capable at 4K/25 they make a good A/B Cam pair and I have tools that excel at both photography and videography.
@@PaulJoy yea the problem is I was thinking I could get those cinematic images SOOC and it seems I’ll have to learn to grade log on resolve which isn’t a simple task. If the fx3 was easier to get an image compared to canon I’d switch. More people use a7s3 than r6 and I use x100v for photos so don’t need a hybrid camera. Worry I’d sell and spend another $2k just to be in the San situation of needing to grade a bit.
Excellent and concise, and especially useful is the last tip on locking the AWB. I'm used to cameras that have a white balance button on the front. This is a great way to do it on the FX3 (or FX30 which is what I have). Thanks for the helpful video.
Thanks loads for letting me know, I'm really pleased it was useful.
Thanks for being so detailed -- very informative. One question: is setting white balance purely a matter of altering the Kelvin value? Can I set white balance by just twiddling the Kelvin value and observing the effect in the LCD monitor. Or do the tools on the Sony A7 help guide the user to a more reliable result?
Hi Robert. You can totally dial in the kelvin value by eye as long as you have an accurate monitor and many people work that way. The kelvin value however only adjusts the amber to blue value (daylight to tungsten) so this doesn’t take in to account any green to magenta influences that may be effecting the scene.
You can also take those in to account manually too, maybe there should be a green shift in the image or maybe that’s an effect your looking for.
Auto white balancing tools adjust both the amber to blue and magenta to green shifts, whereas kelvin only adjusts amber to blue.
@@PaulJoy Hi Paul. Thanks so much for explaining about green to magenta, something I never knew before. I have a Sony A7R4A... does this cam also make adjustments for green to magenta automatically when I adjust white balance pointing the camera at a white card ? Previously I thought white balance was purely adjusting the Kelvin value. Do most cameras with a module for adjusting white balance just adjust the Kelvin value, without adjusting for green to magenta? I have a Panasonic FZ300 that has a method for adjusting white balance pointing at a white card... do you know whether this would also do green to magenta.
@@robertlightbourne2217 Hi Robert. I believe most auto white balancing cameras take green / magenta shift in to account as well as amber to blue as both axis are required in order to achieve an accurate white.
@@PaulJoy Aha! Many thanks... I never knew this before...