Imagine holding a photograph from the future, then taking an action and watching the photograph change accordingly. I can’t even begin to COMPREHEND how that would feel.
@@cobaltprime9467 Well here, it can. One of the episodes has Megatron destroy Optimus Prime’s head so he could change the future and the Maximals hurry to keep him alive or else he dies and then with him.
Now, according to this disc, the human race is destined to emerge from this valley. Hm... Humans! Thanks to their interference, the Autobots defeated the Decepticons and thus, it is the Maximals would rule us! But no longer... no. Destiny is about to go, a improvement!
The dinobot death resembles what transformers main purpose was to help or do a good noble reason even if it meant to give your life for others the ultimaré sacrefied!!!
3:45 The earliest human saw Dinobot making that hammer and used it as it's first tool. And from there he improvised ! But maybe those early humans had some even before.
Self fulfilling prophecy basically...time travel is such a headache to think about. But basically he did change the future...by creating it. Ugh, I'm done with just that lol.
They literally state this in The Agenda. As Ravage approaches Megatron evaluates whether he can try destroying the Australopithecines before they can evolve into humanity, only for Inferno to tell him his actions in Code of Hero forced them to scatter too far apart - forcing Megatron to instead resort to Plan B - Kill Optimus Prime.
@@jamessinclair2898 I was Talking about Temporal pre-determinism. Or to put it another way the Pre-Humans's left the rift valley because Megatron was there if they'd not they'd have stayed History changes - so that then raises a tricky question with the whole blowing the top of mountains off or if the future Megatron comes from is COMPLETELY different, this may even be further supported by Beast Machines and by things not stated on the show - but by the writers about why The Transformers are peronna non-grata - Implying they do something very bad to Humanity pre-25th Century - which is why they are supposedly being attacked and spyed on - Which reminds me what was that fake moon actually for ?
Giant loop-hole in Megatron's plan. If he wipes out the human race, they wouldn't launch Voyager with the golden disk, so G1 Megatron wouldn't have been able to find it to transcribe the message on it, which inspired him to go kill the humans. So, if he succeeded he would have been erased from history and that time line would have ended since it was beyond broken XD
To this Megatron, that would have been good enough, cause lets remember *AFTER* this failed he ran and found The Ark and tried to Marty McFly Optimus Prime, which almost pulled the mother in law of all butterfly effects
Funny enough, the Beast Wars Transmetals game apparently gave a possible answer via multiple endings. In Megatron's ending, killing Optimus Prime does let the Decepticons win the Great War. However, the Matrix of Leadership is destroyed with Optimus, so when Unicron attacks Cybertron, no one can stop him... Edit: The Transformers Wiki has an article in case anyone's curious.
Did you see Dinobot take out Blackarachnia and Inferno with that gun?!?! He would be SO OP if had a proper blaster and a proper shield...and yet he's stuck with a sword and a spinning tail thing...such a shame...
If it wasn't for beave and noble sacrifice of dinobot,we humans wouldn't be alive today R.I.P dinobot with the many of the great transformers of the past and have your story be spoken in a true and glorious way for all future earthlings and cybertrians yet to born and created to know
Dinobot did what no other maximal could do... single handedly takes down all the predacons and kicks megatrons butt and destroys the disk... giving the maximal an advantage to destroy megatron and optimus let's him get away lol
Dinobot goes out like an absolute G!!!! Remember watching this as a teenager coming off G1 and loving it all. Ah memories of great times to be cherished. Thank you for sharing this my friend.
Attempts to destroy Optimus Prime and a time storm was raging alternating everything around them... but attempting to destroy the early humans... same thing would happen... the Voyager 1 thus golden disk would never created, and which G1 Megatron would never have inscribed a message on the disk. Plus if there is no disk... BW Megatron would never have stolen the disk and travel to prehistoric Earth to follow G1 Megatron instructions.
I think killing Optimus was causing the immediate effect because that was closer to being unfixable and because the Predacons/Maximals were so closely tied to Optimus and the other Bots surviving. Their immediate existence was more dependent on them than humans in a way.
I think what it means is the Autobots could've still won the Great War without the humans. It may have been a tougher battle, but still possible. An Autobot team without Prime would've lost immediately. I think that's why after this, Megatron focuses his attention on the Ark instead of trying to kill the early humans again.
"humans: thanks to their interference, the autobots defeated the deceptecons" meaning it was their help, not they themselves who beat deceptecons, TAKE NOTES BAY!!!!
I don’t get why he wanted to destroy the valley to be honest. If he pushed human evolution to move faster it would mean better human technology. Meaning there would be better materials for the g1 decepticons to steal when they awoke from the ark.
That's just not how time works Megatron... If it is true that altering the past alters the future in such manner, then your memories and experiences would also be altered in a way that you wouldn't notice that you altered the future to begin with.
Trying to deny the autobots the assistance of the humans, especially the Witwickys’... Pretty ingenious. But honestly, the reason why the deceptions lost the Great War is because of Unicron’s attack on Cybertron which nearly decimated their army 🧐 Am I wrong?
TBF Megatron's ultimate goal was to wipe out Optimus Prime. If he succeeded, then the Decepticons would rule and, eventually, Predacons would inevitably take over. If he failed, then the whole universe disappears in a temporal loop and the Autobots/Maximals don't win, which is a decent second prize. People might complain about the plot holes, but if you look at it in a I Win/We All Lose scenario, then yeah, Megatron's plan works quite well. Either Megatron (G1) or Megatron (Beast Wars) wins, or Megatron wipes out all of creation to deny the other team the win.
So weird that Megatron dies here before the events of G1. Strange that it was never explained or resolved. I guess Strascream took over as leader? And no Galvatron? Or Starscream took his place? Bizarre- this changed everything but nothing came of it.
don’t get why he wanted to destroy the valley to be honest. If he pushed human evolution to move faster it would mean better human technology. Meaning there would be better materials for the g1 decepticons to steal when they awoke from the ark.
I think it's because of the golden disk. Without it, he couldn't use its recordings to see if the future would change for the better -- from his standpoint, anyway.
At the start of the series, the Maximals and Predacons use Transwarp technology to go back in time to prehistoric earth - though it doesn't seem to be Earth at first, with two moons and a number of oddities. But as the series goes on, it does indeed turn out to be earth, and the Ark is found in the series itself, with the dormant Autobots and Decepticons.
The Maximals and the Predacons are the ancestors of the Autobots and the Decepticons. In an effort to harvest energon, which the Transformers require to continue the war effort, the Decepticons sought out Earth for their energon needs. This event took place approximately 4 million years before 1984. The Autobots aboard the Arc and the Predacons aboard the Nemesis crash landed on Earth and the Transformers aboard these respective ships went into emergency stasis lock, which is a sort of coma. They stayed in stasis lock for 4 million years until 1984 when they re-awakened to start the Great War. I'm not sure how long the Great War between the Autobots and Decepticons lasted but the war finally ended with the Pax Cybertronia, which was the peace accord that ended the war. It was about 300 years after the Pax Cybertronia that the events of Beast Wars takes place. Optimus Primal of the Maximals and his crew aboard his ship chase down Megatron and his Predacons aboard their ship, in an effort to prevent Megatron from acquiring energon. However, much like the original series, both ships crash land on Earth. The Maximals chased the Predacons through a transwarp hole that sent both ships back in time to about 180,000 BC. Megatron's secret goal was to go back in time to alter the past by destroying the Autobots thus making the Autobots lose the Great War. This plan was an idea that wasn't fleshed out until later in the series. In the beginning of the show, the premise was the Predacons wanted to harvest energon to destroy the Maximals and take over the Transformer home world of Cybertron.
This is NOT the same earth as the original Transformers. In the original show there were no floating island or raw energon on the earth. There wasn't two moons either ( one is NOT a moon but still). This is an alternate earth. Compare Beast Wars to the original show and you will see.🤓
Imagine holding a photograph from the future, then taking an action and watching the photograph change accordingly. I can’t even begin to COMPREHEND how that would feel.
The Mandela Effect is how it feels.
It would feel like that old movie called Back To The Future.
@@eyeemknotlion1873I was just about to say that it means something straight out of Back to the Future.
Depends if it would change or just create a parallel timeline where the object in the picture still existed.
@@Mike1064ab which is why fiddling with time is dangerous. no matter what endgame say's.
I like how rampage literally steps on a butterfly as a reference to the "butterfly effect".
It was also referring to "The Sound of Thunder" according to one guy
@@KamenRiderRaiden Thats a strange but interesting movie about time paradoxes.
@@TheKingofbrooklinit was a short story long before there ever was a movie
"What is a warrior without weapons?"
"A warrior, still!"
Dinobot truly was a noble bot.
Man the old megatron voice actor really was way better than the kingdom one
Yes. Or, I guess, yeesss.
Ikr, I can't believe he went from this awesome calculating villain to that pathetic groveller.
Respectfully I disagree
@@blueraccoon1088 well we can’t be rigid all the time
@@blueraccoon1088 gfys
Dinobot: He lived a warrior and died a hero. Let his spark join the Matrix, 'The Greatest of Cybertron.'
Megatron: My dear Rampage if you please?
Rampage: YOU PRESUME TO ORDER ME?
Taps on chest
No human race= no golden disk.
No golden disk= means the Predacons never had a reason to go to earth.
Instant time paradox.
Kind of the point though.
No human race = Decepticons win = Decepticons have complete control over Cybertron = no reason to go to Earth.
C you made a good point besides buckethead megs never made the golden disk
That could have have destroyed the galaxy.
“If you travel to the past, that past becomes your future, and your former present becomes the past, which can't now be changed by your new future.”
@@cobaltprime9467 Well here, it can. One of the episodes has Megatron destroy Optimus Prime’s head so he could change the future and the Maximals hurry to keep him alive or else he dies and then with him.
When reality alters the future alters with it . With the Golden disk. Megatron’s power is limitless!
Now, according to this disc, the human race is destined to emerge from this valley. Hm... Humans! Thanks to their interference, the Autobots defeated the Decepticons and thus, it is the Maximals would rule us! But no longer... no.
Destiny is about to go, a improvement!
The dinobot death resembles what transformers main purpose was to help or do a good noble reason even if it meant to give your life for others the ultimaré sacrefied!!!
Dino Bot He Gave Up His Life To Save Us All....
raptor jesus
オオカミ王の目Ōkami-ō no me So that way in the future we would create the Golden Disk.
オオカミ王の目Ōkami-ō no me 😭😭😭😭😭
オオカミ王の目Ōkami-ō no me “ He lived a warrior, and died a hero. Let his spark rejoin the matrix, THE GREATEST OF CYBERTRON!”
andnthen Dinobot dies again in Netflix War for Cybertron Trilogy Which comes 2022
3:10
"My ears are burning ... yeeeeeeeessss"
Timothy Kammerer I read this comment right as he said that. LoL
3:45
The earliest human saw Dinobot making that hammer and used it as it's first tool.
And from there he improvised !
But maybe those early humans had some even before.
Perhaps they might never have left if Megatron had not chased them out ?
He created the future - by trying to stop it.
The supreme irony!
Very possible
Self fulfilling prophecy basically...time travel is such a headache to think about. But basically he did change the future...by creating it. Ugh, I'm done with just that lol.
They literally state this in The Agenda. As Ravage approaches Megatron evaluates whether he can try destroying the Australopithecines before they can evolve into humanity, only for Inferno to tell him his actions in Code of Hero forced them to scatter too far apart - forcing Megatron to instead resort to Plan B - Kill Optimus Prime.
@@jamessinclair2898 I was Talking about Temporal pre-determinism.
Or to put it another way the Pre-Humans's left the rift valley because Megatron was there if they'd not they'd have stayed History changes - so that then raises a tricky question with the whole blowing the top of mountains off or if the future Megatron comes from is COMPLETELY different, this may even be further supported by Beast Machines and by things not stated on the show - but by the writers about why The Transformers are peronna non-grata - Implying they do something very bad to Humanity pre-25th Century - which is why they are supposedly being attacked and spyed on -
Which reminds me what was that fake moon actually for ?
Giant loop-hole in Megatron's plan. If he wipes out the human race, they wouldn't launch Voyager with the golden disk, so G1 Megatron wouldn't have been able to find it to transcribe the message on it, which inspired him to go kill the humans. So, if he succeeded he would have been erased from history and that time line would have ended since it was beyond broken XD
To this Megatron, that would have been good enough, cause lets remember *AFTER* this failed he ran and found The Ark and tried to Marty McFly Optimus Prime, which almost pulled the mother in law of all butterfly effects
Funny enough, the Beast Wars Transmetals game apparently gave a possible answer via multiple endings. In Megatron's ending, killing Optimus Prime does let the Decepticons win the Great War. However, the Matrix of Leadership is destroyed with Optimus, so when Unicron attacks Cybertron, no one can stop him...
Edit: The Transformers Wiki has an article in case anyone's curious.
@@johnnygyro2295this is interesting, I will check it out later
@@KamenRiderRaidenlol, great comment
I see the Predicons are still holding a grudge against us.
Did you see Dinobot take out Blackarachnia and Inferno with that gun?!?! He would be SO OP if had a proper blaster and a proper shield...and yet he's stuck with a sword and a spinning tail thing...such a shame...
that what makes him so powerful! he doesnt need that shit
Well he had his eye lasers as a blaster weapon.
Lazur eyes
He a samurai like warrior.
3:05 I freaking love David Kaye!
Yes
If it wasn't for beave and noble sacrifice of dinobot,we humans wouldn't be alive today
R.I.P dinobot with the many of the great transformers of the past and have your story be spoken in a true and glorious way for all future earthlings and cybertrians yet to born and created to know
Heroduothecomedian Amen brother.
At least he died how he lived. An honorable warrior.
F
If it weren't for Dinobot, we wouldn't have the Dinobots in G1!
Scott McNeil must’ve worked up a lot for that scream.
"oh my crazed crustacean!" 🤣
Dinobot did what no other maximal could do... single handedly takes down all the predacons and kicks megatrons butt and destroys the disk... giving the maximal an advantage to destroy megatron and optimus let's him get away lol
R.I.P dinobot :'(
Dinobot goes out like an absolute G!!!! Remember watching this as a teenager coming off G1 and loving it all. Ah memories of great times to be cherished. Thank you for sharing this my friend.
So humanity wouldn't be around if dinobot didn't interfere
3:45 Thats How Thor Got Storm Breaker
Dino Bot a true warrior through an through. Never forsake honor. Lok Tar Dino Bot.
so this solves the mystery of the decepticon's heads turned into a musical drums for the ancestors of human race lol
i'd like to point out if he wasn't already injured from a prior fight with tarantulus i reckon he could have probably killed Megatron
Dinobot was the rambo of transformers.
First of all, lol at 2:34
Also, I think David Kaye is just too good as Megatron at 3:07
Yes
My ears are burning, yesss!
@@TromboneConductor767 why dinobot 😂
Damn I never realized the golden disk was THE golden disk on Voyager- even when it was mentioned in the show
I like megatron talking in dinosaur form so cute
This is how Lord Megatron of The Predacons set the tones for The TransFormers: Generation 1 in September of 1984!
Attempts to destroy Optimus Prime and a time storm was raging alternating everything around them...
but attempting to destroy the early humans... same thing would happen... the Voyager 1 thus golden disk would never created, and which G1 Megatron would never have inscribed a message on the disk. Plus if there is no disk... BW Megatron would never have stolen the disk and travel to prehistoric Earth to follow G1 Megatron instructions.
Time travel is insanely complex
I think killing Optimus was causing the immediate effect because that was closer to being unfixable and because the Predacons/Maximals were so closely tied to Optimus and the other Bots surviving. Their immediate existence was more dependent on them than humans in a way.
I think what it means is the Autobots could've still won the Great War without the humans. It may have been a tougher battle, but still possible. An Autobot team without Prime would've lost immediately. I think that's why after this, Megatron focuses his attention on the Ark instead of trying to kill the early humans again.
Dinobot, without a doubt bad ass!
Dinobot true GOAT
3:03 They really had to give Dinobot them cheeks didn't they?
This is why I love Dinobot he’s such a badass I love it 😍
*insert terminator theme here*
that was beautifull...yes...
Dino Bot gave his all. That was thick for a cartoon.
What a friendly Dino 3:11.....
"humans: thanks to their interference, the autobots defeated the deceptecons"
meaning it was their help, not they themselves who beat deceptecons, TAKE NOTES BAY!!!!
3:46 That is why Megatron and Optimus "fear" Dinobot..so it was true..it is like Transformer A-team member. 🏌
Fun fact: if megatron destroyed the early humans the transformers would’ve been destroyed.
I don’t get why he wanted to destroy the valley to be honest. If he pushed human evolution to move faster it would mean better human technology. Meaning there would be better materials for the g1 decepticons to steal when they awoke from the ark.
So megatron (past) could win against the autobots easier
@@helloiwanttootakeoverthewo3217 yes if there were more materials and devices for the decepticons to steal that would ensure decepticon victory.
Dinobot went *true* Beast Mode.
He devastated the Preds. I’m surprised Inferno even survived that.
AN EVIL ROBOT WHO SOUNDS SO DECENT ... MEGATRON BEASTWARS
can we talk about how dinobot almost defeated the predacons single handedly?
Nothing like a good war crime.
Dinobot gave his life to save us all the first hero of the human race
Does that man Megatron is Biff from Back to the Future with the Almanac?
Except erosion, tectonic plate movements, volcanism would change all those mountains to be far different in the future
0:53 why is tarantulas there?
TL;DR, secret police who said "Look, youre trying to drop Megatron, im under contract to drop Megatron, lets work together"
This show had such great one-liners it's riddiculous!
great to see dinobot vs rampage , would of been great to see their rivalry
That's just not how time works Megatron... If it is true that altering the past alters the future in such manner, then your memories and experiences would also be altered in a way that you wouldn't notice that you altered the future to begin with.
Ugh, time travel hurts my head sometimes. But yeah you're right.
Trenzinho da Alegria Only one possibility, there are many theories about how timelines would work, beast wars didn't use this one.
it used a form of bootstrap/self-fulfilling Paradox
Trenzinho da Alegria megatron destroy himself for that action
he didn't think this through
It'd still be changed tho.
Dinobot is some maximal and part predacon
At least he has more Prime within himself.
Rampage: You presume to order me?!
Hmmmmm! My ears are burning....YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
THE GOLDEN DISK LOOKS LIKE A LASER DISK
Trying to deny the autobots the assistance of the humans, especially the Witwickys’... Pretty ingenious. But honestly, the reason why the deceptions lost the Great War is because of Unicron’s attack on Cybertron which nearly decimated their army 🧐 Am I wrong?
TBF Megatron's ultimate goal was to wipe out Optimus Prime. If he succeeded, then the Decepticons would rule and, eventually, Predacons would inevitably take over. If he failed, then the whole universe disappears in a temporal loop and the Autobots/Maximals don't win, which is a decent second prize.
People might complain about the plot holes, but if you look at it in a I Win/We All Lose scenario, then yeah, Megatron's plan works quite well. Either Megatron (G1) or Megatron (Beast Wars) wins, or Megatron wipes out all of creation to deny the other team the win.
You know in hindsight megatron should have wiped out the valley
another question is !
how did the disc get destroyed with only a half fragment
left from the disc
& who technically tried to destroy the disc?
I wonder what Humans and Earth are like in the time the Maximals and Predicons come from.
A story for another time.
Who came here after watching Transformers: Earthrise!!!
So weird that Megatron dies here before the events of G1. Strange that it was never explained or resolved. I guess Strascream took over as leader? And no Galvatron? Or Starscream took his place? Bizarre- this changed everything but nothing came of it.
They changed it all back. There's a deleted scene where they put Meg's spark back
Oh, my crazed crustacean! Do you realize what this means?
Awesome Work
👍👍👍👍
Megatron attempts to stop the human race from ever existing.
I can' belive that dinobot risk his live😞😢
Such a bs that one Dino bot took the whole team down. Don't this high tech machines have a personal radar.
You forget that most of the Predacons were... bumbling idiots.
actually by all accounts Dinobot is the most skilled predacon warrior only reason he's ever lost is because of cheap tricks
It's a plot-dependent radar.
Pretty much related to plot-dependent durability.
Take Waspinator as an example of the latter account.
Anyone notice that Megatron is basically a nightmare barney
Jaguarlibre 7 no
@@koolboy895 it was a joke
I think he found the ark locations!!!😲
So megatron tail arm comes with a disc reader ?
yeah dudes
don’t get why he wanted to destroy the valley to be honest. If he pushed human evolution to move faster it would mean better human technology. Meaning there would be better materials for the g1 decepticons to steal when they awoke from the ark.
You presume to order me?
Jesus ain’t got shit on Dinobot
Was that MT Kilimanjaro? There is no image on the disc check you tube yourself
Darkside of transformers genocide of the human race..
4:03
Yes！Yes！
Yeessss...
I dont get it why didnt he try again he still could have won that they were in the past
I think it's because of the golden disk. Without it, he couldn't use its recordings to see if the future would change for the better -- from his standpoint, anyway.
Wait is this before the Autobots came out of the ark or after ?
Both actually.
heusniet o
Kinda both
At the start of the series, the Maximals and Predacons use Transwarp technology to go back in time to prehistoric earth - though it doesn't seem to be Earth at first, with two moons and a number of oddities. But as the series goes on, it does indeed turn out to be earth, and the Ark is found in the series itself, with the dormant Autobots and Decepticons.
The Maximals and the Predacons are the ancestors of the Autobots and the Decepticons.
In an effort to harvest energon, which the Transformers require to continue the war effort, the Decepticons sought out Earth for their energon needs. This event took place approximately 4 million years before 1984. The Autobots aboard the Arc and the Predacons aboard the Nemesis crash landed on Earth and the Transformers aboard these respective ships went into emergency stasis lock, which is a sort of coma. They stayed in stasis lock for 4 million years until 1984 when they re-awakened to start the Great War.
I'm not sure how long the Great War between the Autobots and Decepticons lasted but the war finally ended with the Pax Cybertronia, which was the peace accord that ended the war. It was about 300 years after the Pax Cybertronia that the events of Beast Wars takes place.
Optimus Primal of the Maximals and his crew aboard his ship chase down Megatron and his Predacons aboard their ship, in an effort to prevent Megatron from acquiring energon. However, much like the original series, both ships crash land on Earth. The Maximals chased the Predacons through a transwarp hole that sent both ships back in time to about 180,000 BC.
Megatron's secret goal was to go back in time to alter the past by destroying the Autobots thus making the Autobots lose the Great War. This plan was an idea that wasn't fleshed out until later in the series. In the beginning of the show, the premise was the Predacons wanted to harvest energon to destroy the Maximals and take over the Transformer home world of Cybertron.
First
This is NOT the same earth as the original Transformers. In the original show there were no floating island or raw energon on the earth. There wasn't two moons either ( one is NOT a moon but still). This is an alternate earth. Compare Beast Wars to the original show and you will see.🤓
The second moon was destroyed, the energon disappeared and the floating island was also brought down.
vok tech was a weird thing about the plot and its earth... it all disappeared before the events of G1
Transformers do not care about canon. Hasbro is only interested in selling toys.
Hasbro is not doing the writing though.
You clearly haven't watched all of beast wars have you?
Such bad animation ...
What other CGI show from the mid-90s do you know that looked better than this? Mainframe made this and Reboot.
beast wars sucks i hate it so much
X pedguin X its becausr of the cgi isnt it
Yet you care enough to whine after one of its videos. Do you have nothing better to do?
the username says it all
Perhaps RiD ‘01 would be more your speed.
The disks say the sounds of Earth we sent out 2 Golden disks on Voyager 1 and Voyager 2