@@Bowebble I think Dinobot got a pass for those because it wasnt a Starscream-like situation. Dinobot would honestly point out when he genuinely had a problem with a plan (hell, even his fight with Optimus to takeover the maximals doesn't seem personal, Dinobot sincerely thinks he'd be a good leader) which is a useful asset to have sometimes. Megs just couldn't deal with how it seemed like he'd be underminding him all the time.
Megatron did not have an arc. He always put himself before others in the pursuit of his goals. While his body changed his character was no different from the start of BW to the end of BW.
Yes, I can concur. He was the most honorable Warrior I've ever seen. A word that lives with honor, so be honored in memory. As for Megatron, eh, he can suck egg.
I freaking love the moment at 3:47. The look on Megatron's face as the glimmers of the old Dinobot peaks out, and Megatron being *VERY* aware of said glimmers is priceless
Lmao, did you ever watch Beast Wars? The rubber ducky was almost a character unto itself. David Kaye (Megatron's BW voice actor) has been known to occasionally sing the rubber ducky song from Sesame Street in his Megatron voice for fans.
Transformers Beast Wars Predacon Megatron Loves using The Regeneration Tank as a Bath/Hot Tub and Transformers Prime Megatron loves listening to My Little Pony Music.
He is written as though he is the same character due to an unfinished episode where Rhinox hacks into Dinobot 2 and restores the original Dinobot spark, however due to Rampage still being alive he ramained unchanged till Rampage was killed.
cyrus smith It was cancelled, but there was an episode where Rattrap found the original Dinobot’s memories stored on their salvaged systems, and he was able to transfer the originals memories to the clone, but it didn’t take. Cue Rampage’s death, and the flood of memories commence.
Megatron was a real monster for this resurrecting his old enemy once subordinate Only to be controlled like a puppet on a string Damn man I’m glad I was a witness to such awesome storytelling as a kid
Transmetal 2 Dinobot may have been a monster but in the end he gave his second life to save the maximals aboard the ark he will always be an honourable transformers
Yeah & Rampage's like the Hannibal Lecter of Beast Wars, because of his ominous silhouette & his death in the hands of Depth Charge...He laughed at it in 2:47
Yes that’s true he did got he’s memories back but he actually end his life and the maximals did lost him in the first time but this time they have to let him go this time but there should have been a way that they could just save him will they were in the decepticons ship he would of reunite with his friends the maximals that what we all want for dinobot
@@joaquinnevarez2509 yes but if he did survive he would have been in Beast Machines and that would have probably ended badly for him Megatron would have definitely reduced him fo slag
@@solrachernandez3389 true but you might never even if some of the others maximals would have survived they would have given a transmetal upgrade designs such a airrazor “😒 even though rhinox didn’t get the upgrade in the series but only he’s toy did you know” and anyway then they would have make it into the Beast machines events
@@joaquinnevarez2509 personally I think that in Beast Machines they should have kept the Trans-Metal 2 body's. I mean Cheetors feral body looked more technorganic then the bodies the Maximals got in Beast Machines. Also I agree Rhinox should have survived the series the whole evil story arch was good but still
he was also heavily injured from a sneak attack before he fought the majority of the preds XD and then there's rampage who was 10 times strongere then Megatron but dinobot still kicked his ass
I kind of liked the setup where, while Megatron was pretty strong, you got the sense he STAYED leader because of his charisma and smarts. All his cronies were just too stupid/argumentative/backbiting to ever team up against him, and he was very good at playing their weaknesses against each other.
It is not. Back in the day, this was genuinely one of the best shows ever. It only "failed" because toy sales weren't going as planned, yet people still truly loved the show. It has a huge cult following even to this day.
@@jayjay86443are you sure? The series was extremely successful not only was the show super beloved but toy sales were at an all time high I think you meant Beast machines (the shitty sequel series) failed because the show was super controversial because of how angry it made old fans And the toys didn’t save it one bit
@michelcoolguy1701 beast machines had some nice ideas, but ruined a brilliant show imo. Changing the characters too much and in terrible ways. I think I remembe reading the creators had never watched beast wars, and that's a big problem.
Megatron: What possible reason do you have to disobey me?! I am your master! I am your CREATOR! Dinobot II: And I...have my honor! Megatron: *triggered*
@Kyle Baltzer Can you picture this argument? Optimus Primal: "I fight for justice, honor and freedom!" Megatron:" BY THE MATRIX, PRIMAL!! SUCH LANGUAGE!!"
@Kaecilius Yep. He was had a great blend of experience, strength & courage. That is the original. HE I have no problem with dying. His clone on the other hand was a total waste.
One of the things I like about Dinobot and rarely see ppl talk about it is his relationship with optimus primal he truly respected prime as a warrior they were like good war friends, several times when optimus got hurt Dinobot would call his name in concern especially the one where optimus had that berserker virus and At the end of the episode dinobot was watching over optimus waiting for him to wake up and tells him its good to have him back and even brought him flowers 🌸 lol
There was actually an episode that was cut, and sold as a comic packed in with a toy. The comic details the cut episode in which Rattrap tries to upload a copy of Dinobot’s memory into Dinobot 2. It seems like it failed but as we see in the series finale, it worked after Rampage died.
@Dingle So Dinobot didn't return to his old self because his genetic memory took hold after Rampage died, but because Rapttrap tried to reprogram him with Dinobot's memories? Huh...
Given that the clone never had a non-transmetal form, he would've initially had to have been a vehicon. I feel they could've done what they did with Silverbolt better with Dinobot 2 instead. With Silverbolt it never made sense how he suddenly became overly confrontational and edgy, but Dinobot's character always had undertones of that, particularly in Season 1
James Sinclair I think the personality changes were caused by a shell program, the same thing megatron used on the protoforms on earth to establish them as predacons, like blackarachnia and inferno. His use of them on the vehicons generals was his form of an ironic and sadistic enjoyment. He mad Rhinox an idiot, he made Silverbolt cruel and he made waspinator actually competent. As for the trans metal part, that’s where things get interesting to me. When the virus hit them, “basic” transformers were made immobile, transemetals were reverted and they had short term memory loss. However what’s odd about that last point is that optimuses current body has never been anything but a transmetal. This leads me to think that dinobot2 would “revert” to an organic looking raptor similar to the original dinobot. I mean he has to have some organic nature and not be entirely mechanical, or the energon on earth would have caused him to shut down, meaning he is a tansmetal with at least enough in common with the others that the virus should do the same to him.
Both of his deaths were some of the saddest and yet noblest in the Transformers franchise. Still wish Transmetal 2 Dinobot had survived. On a technical note though, looking back at these scenes it's really cool to see how the animation improved over the years, and how it shows with Dinobot.
I'd have to agree. Always seemed like a cheap way to write him off, particularly because he was literally next to optimus yet gets left behind anyway, despite seeing plenty of times where optimus can still fly while carrying someone; even after the crash he was still in sprinting distance, but they both just gave up even thought it was against their characters. But yeah the animation advancement was a sight to behold, even going from Reboot to this.
My favorite version of Dinobot/transmetal. The silver metallic white , burgundy reddish purple and charcoal grey color scheme , the wicked raptor/ robot hybrid design. Dinobot 2 seems to have a sadictic , savagery, demeanor that reminds me of the Predator. If only the original Dinobot had morphed into the transmetal early on Beast Wars like Rattrap and Cheetor.
I think he'd look slightly different because this version of Dinobot was a Transmetal 2, not just a regular Transmetal so in my opinion he'd probably look a little different. But it's a neat idea to think about a Transmetal 1 Dinobot. Lets be honest tho I don't think that needed it.
Dinobot was my favorite. I still remember when they had the white raptors and I kept saying "what if they bring back Dinobot!" Then they were hinting it in that episode, and then he steps out and snarls, then it cuts to commercials without showing him, but I was already exclaiming YES! YES! YES! YES! THEY DID IT!!! then I got the figure at KB Toys. Unforgettable times.
What if Primal brought Rattrap with him to stop Megatron and Dinobot 2 on the Nemesis? We see Rattrap head for Dinobot 2 and tackle him to get him away from the control table to prevent him from firing up the Nemesis' systems. Dinobot 2 wasn't paying attention and was shocked from the unexpected force of Rattrap's tackle and with him now becoming enraged and being much bigger than Rattrap, he throws him off and pins Rattrap down and throws his gun out of his holster leaving Rattrap defenseless. Optimus sees this and attempts to aid his friend but Megatron keeps Optimus' attention. Dinobot 2 looks at Rattrap for a moment seemingly recognizing him as not a foe, but as an old comrade from another time. However, sentimentality is all but lost on this clone as it was almost entirely gone in the original Dinobot as well. As Dinobot 2 prepares to quickly kill Rattrap so he can get back to work on the Nemesis, Rattrap attempts to get through to Dinobot 2 who despite everything he has had done to him and his comrades, he still believed his old friend was still somewhere in there despite all the odds. Dinobot 2 just snarls and prepares to strike him down. Rattrap realizing at that point that if there was anything left of his friend in this disgrace to his name, it was all gone. Rattrap makes a disappointed remark to Dinobot in a typical smart-ass way saying "What are you waiting for lizard lips? We've done this before just finish the job already will ya?" In that moment with Dinobot 2's loyalties towards Megatron being questioned and receiving a memory of the original Dinobot earlier, he has a flashback to that moment in "Maximal, No More" of him about to strike Rattrap down but spares him and defends him from Megatron. In that moment, the original Dinobot's personality briefly comes to the surface with his right eye flickering from Dinobot 2's firey orange eyes to Dinobot's dark red eyes.
Rumor has it there was actually supposed to be an episode where Rattrap snuck into the Predacon base and downloaded Dinobot's memories or something into the clone but, it got scrapped
It should be worth noting that there was an unproduced episode, 'Dark Glass', where Rattrap uploaded the original Dinobot's datatrax (or, his memories) into Dinobot II. Which is why after Rampage's death, the personality of the original Dinobot finally took control, and Dinobot II made the same honorable sacrifice that his predecessor made in the end.
Best is right, and Dinobot died a true hero because of it and why he said, "Farewell, Optimus Primal." To be honest, i like Dinobot. He represents honor by it's true meaning.
@@pittland44 It had nothing to do with that, it was because he had Part of Rampage's mutant indestructible spark, and Rampage himself was shown to heal/repair himself naturally.
@@ValiantWrestling Even Rampage required repairs from time to time, the end of Bad Spark when he fell off the cliff and was shorting out springs to mind.
Step one into making one of your villains a sickening vile piece of slag: Have them bastardize a beloved and heroic character and ripping out their sense of honor by replacing it with ruthlessness. Step two: Have it backfire on them by having their creation turn on them.
I was born in 92, so i was lucky enough to see the original run of this as it cane out. This and roughneck; starship troopers chronicles were the best back then. Dinobot and cheetor were my favorites. Odd, it was the ONLY transformers show where optimus wasn't my favorite. Dinobot was a tragic hero. At least in the end, he saved mankind
Transmetal 2 cheetor is my favorite maximal by far. I hated the designs for beast machines, but the story was cool. The designs NEVER grew on me during the entire show, but the ongoing story was engaging. I highly advise everyone to see beastwars, beast machines, and roughnecks. 3 great cgi shows from the dark ages. The era of Yahoo, aol, ask jeeves, and the Rosie odonnel show
@@ValiantWrestling Wow. You're not even wrong. Armada Starscream was the best part of the show. He had an arc and even ended up defecting to the Autobots before sacrificing himself to get both Optimus and Megatron to work together to fight Unicron.
After saving the human race Dinobot should go back in time to fight not just alongside the Autobots but joining forces with other fictional superheroes as well .That will be a truly honorable 🎖 reward. And when he goes to a restaurant ----order big like a ginormous T-bone steak with veggie fixings and a slice of apple pie 🥧 with cool whip .he should eat big for example he did ate his clone.
Even as a clone, it was Dinobot. Best character of Transformers ever! Optimus shouldn't leave him behind, Dinobot transmetal would be a great new warrior. Miss that guy.
Kaila Kang Werty Good point. Why didn't he pick up Dinobot 2 off of the Nemesis as it was crashing? It would had been cool to at least gotten Dinobot in Beast Machines.
I know Optimus should have saved Dinobot but that’s how the story goes and call it an act of redemption cuz Dinobot saved history twice but at the cost of his life and a noble deed.
3:00 Megatron knew what happened in a technical sense, but didn't think it all the way through. He got too arrogant after finding the nemesis and it lead to defeat.
At first I was kinda upset that they brought back Dinobot only to make him a villain again. But then I watched further and realized he was still the same.
* Sigh * - If only they had thought of what would happen if a Stasis Pod, scanned a Human or human skeleton? Now THAT Transformer would be Unique Indeed!!!
Megatron is obsessed with Dinobot. I suspect before landing on the "wrong planet", Dinobot was not only the most competent, but the most loyal to the original plan. I have the feeling that Dinobot (and maybe Tarantulas) was the only one who knew the real plan was to go to earth and alter time. The rest Megatron convinced with promises of power and energon.
What a wasted character! He could had been such a contribute to Beast Machines if he had lived! I could egsept the original Dinobot's death. But not this one. He could had grown a unique personality as an Maximal warrior against Megatrons Vehicons as someone who has worked with Megatron and knows of his true mad nature. Mabye he could had grown a bigger connection with Rattrap in seeing the true danger of their surcomstanses or getting to know the Maximals more deeply being forced in company with them or a mental stability problem or controlling his inner rage against Megatron. A growth to care about someone other than himself. Going on a quest to find who he truly is being confused of who he really could be in the inside. Having the half spark of Rampage and the DNA or the original Dinobot. A confused soul of two long gone bots. Mabye he could had been a great fighter and made Beast Machines gain a better reception among fans. I would surely had loved to had seen that. He would be like a Dinobot Jr of sorts in sharing a connection of turning from a nobody to a special somebody. Growing feelings and learning from his comrades. They could had done so much with him. But, they just killed with no thought what so ever sadly.
Plus, I would had liked to had seen how he would had looked in Beast Machines. And what if he was to communicate with the original Dinobot in seeking advice in how to defeat Megatron. And what if Dinobot 2 were to become fascinated in studying the true meaning of free will in how it makes us all who we are. He could had learned how to make himself a unique individual apart from Rampage and Dinobot 1 and all the other Maximals. It would be like how Optimus said about how the Matrix created life on Cybertron to grow and evolve to learn the true well being of living and as the Generations pass on to each other, the world and knowledge builds and adapts to prosper and thrive all around. This could had made Dinobot 2 become a freedo, fighter for the right of free will building a commentary on oppression and slavery showing how Megatron's ambitions are misguided and unbalance. And as someone who grew up as a Predacon in the rough environment and seeing the ways of sides could be able to learn how to fix the issues for both sides wich can bring peace to Cybertron ending the whole series on a great high note much like how the Beast Machines show was all about balancing and blending the organic and technological to bring them together as one were as a character like Dinobot could had brought it to a higher level of greatness. Or just simply be a fun character to bring enjoyment into a epic show like how he did in the Beast Wars. I don't know really. I just like Dinobot alot.
The Ghost Well then what was the point of bringing him back then HUH! Why couldn't they just make a new character. Besides, Dinobot 2 is really not the same as the original Dinobot when you think about it. I was just showing what I thought would make a introsting character arc.
Dinobot Kiryu Yes I agree with what you are saying, but since the show was almost near it's end my guess is the writers realised they didn't have much time to develop Dinobot 2 and it's a shame they had so much potential to develop him. Also it would've been cool to see him in Beast Machines
The Ghost Can you imagine what his design would had looked like? I always used to imagine this stuff back when I was younger. I was a huge nerd in Beast Wars as a child and always enjoyed it when Dinobot was on screen anticipating where he would go next. I grew to accept his original death. Just not his second death. I like your profile picture by the way. I am also a huge Venom fan as well. He's up there with The Green Goblin as the best Spider Man Villains and hope to see him in a Future Spider-Man film. Do they plan to?
Megatron tore in half the Spark, the soul of a fellow Transformer and puts it in a torture device to enslave its owner. He takes an unborn life, innocent and pure, shoves the mutilated soul into it. He then desecrates the body of a hero, an absolute martyr out of sheer spire, and condemns him to become his grotesque slave, a half-living affront to Dinobot's own noble sacrifice. It's probably one of the most heinous act I've seen in fiction outside of outright genocide (and guess what crime Megatron tries to commit at least twice towards mankind in this series!), and one of the reasons I consider him one of the most monstrous and vile villain I've ever seen.
I think there is a chance that Dino bot is still alive on prehistoric Earth. He still has Rampage's inextinguishable spark. (Which mind you, has survived far worse explosions, even when severed in two) Also, Image a spin-off series about Dinobot reviving the remaining maximal protoforms. I'd watch the hell out of that
I love how Megatron gets irrationally angry at the word *"honor"*
That probably leads to his plan on cyberton.
Because he’s got no honor.
can we acknoeledge the fact that dino bot was so great that even megatron wanted him back on his team long after his death
And after not one, but several betrayals at that. That goes to show his prowess as a warrior.
@@Bowebble I think Dinobot got a pass for those because it wasnt a Starscream-like situation. Dinobot would honestly point out when he genuinely had a problem with a plan (hell, even his fight with Optimus to takeover the maximals doesn't seem personal, Dinobot sincerely thinks he'd be a good leader) which is a useful asset to have sometimes. Megs just couldn't deal with how it seemed like he'd be underminding him all the time.
Given that Dinobot was the only competent subordinate...
@@oshkeet and figure this... he was originally a constructicon.
Megatron gave off hints of some sort of obsession over Dinobot
Dinobot easily had the most well-written character arc of any character in Beast Wars.
Other than Megatron, yes.
Megatron did not have an arc. He always put himself before others in the pursuit of his goals. While his body changed his character was no different from the start of BW to the end of BW.
Definitely even as a transmetal 2 his honor is still in him
Yes, I can concur. He was the most honorable Warrior I've ever seen. A word that lives with honor, so be honored in memory. As for Megatron, eh, he can suck egg.
One could say Megatron did, he went from small time criminal to a megalomaniac by the end of the series.
I freaking love the moment at 3:47. The look on Megatron's face as the glimmers of the old Dinobot peaks out, and Megatron being *VERY* aware of said glimmers is priceless
1:58 I can never unsee Megatron taking a bath with a rubber ducky now
Lmao, did you ever watch Beast Wars? The rubber ducky was almost a character unto itself.
David Kaye (Megatron's BW voice actor) has been known to occasionally sing the rubber ducky song from Sesame Street in his Megatron voice for fans.
@@FrozenxDeath I always loved the absurd humor of this show.
Hope they will being some of it back with Earthrise.
Lol
Transformers Beast Wars Predacon Megatron Loves using The Regeneration Tank as a Bath/Hot Tub and Transformers Prime Megatron loves listening to My Little Pony Music.
Dinobot is one of the best Transformers characters to EVER exist... I hope he comes back in another continuity
Same! He always caught my attention and cheetor!
Yeah he also have a good message for his character (atlease what I think) don’t judge someone by their looks but judge them by there actions
Hopefully in the new movie
100 percent him and starscream are tied for 1st place in my humble opinion
Jacob Thomas that’s an odd mix but mine also
Dinobot was a complex, but honorable transformer. He will be missed.
Fierce Deity Link I don't get it, how is he alive ? He was killed.
One Track Mind It's not the same character really. He is just a clone of him.
Dinobot Kiryu oh ?
He is written as though he is the same character due to an unfinished episode where Rhinox hacks into Dinobot 2 and restores the original Dinobot spark, however due to Rampage still being alive he ramained unchanged till Rampage was killed.
Richard Hawkins oh
And he saved the humans and the maximals at the cost of his own life.... TWICE.
Dinosaur Robot Jesus
@@joaogrrr remember it was two dinobots, the original, and the clone
the clone had the originals memories
@@cultbaby3380 thats what mean to be a clone
cyrus smith It was cancelled, but there was an episode where Rattrap found the original Dinobot’s memories stored on their salvaged systems, and he was able to transfer the originals memories to the clone, but it didn’t take. Cue Rampage’s death, and the flood of memories commence.
Megatron was a real monster for this resurrecting his old enemy once subordinate
Only to be controlled like a puppet on a string
Damn man I’m glad I was a witness to such awesome storytelling as a kid
A monster with a rubber duck in the bath
@@supersaiyanjin2199 We all have our eccentricities.
Then in Beast Machines he has full control over all of Cybertron
Transmetal 2 Dinobot may have been a monster but in the end he gave his second life to save the maximals aboard the ark he will always be an honourable transformers
Yeah & Rampage's like the Hannibal Lecter of Beast Wars, because of his ominous silhouette & his death in the hands of Depth Charge...He laughed at it in 2:47
Yes that’s true he did got he’s memories back but he actually end his life and the maximals did lost him in the first time but this time they have to let him go this time but there should have been a way that they could just save him will they were in the decepticons ship he would of reunite with his friends the maximals that what we all want for dinobot
@@joaquinnevarez2509 yes but if he did survive he would have been in Beast Machines and that would have probably ended badly for him Megatron would have definitely reduced him fo slag
@@solrachernandez3389 true but you might never even if some of the others maximals would have survived they would have given a transmetal upgrade designs such a airrazor “😒 even though rhinox didn’t get the upgrade in the series but only he’s toy did you know” and anyway then they would have make it into the Beast machines events
@@joaquinnevarez2509 personally I think that in Beast Machines they should have kept the Trans-Metal 2 body's. I mean Cheetors feral body looked more technorganic then the bodies the Maximals got in Beast Machines. Also I agree Rhinox should have survived the series the whole evil story arch was good but still
"And *I* have my Honor!" That line.... always gives my chills!
Megatron: AAAAARRRGH!!!! 😡
Dinobot was easily the strongest warrior in the beast wars in his normal form he swept most of the predacon team and made transmetal megatron struggle
he was also heavily injured from a sneak attack before he fought the majority of the preds XD and then there's rampage who was 10 times strongere then Megatron but dinobot still kicked his ass
I thought the transmetal and hybrid bots were so lame. I like their natural forms
@@J.Wolf90 🖤 yes
I think if Dinobot lived and went transmetal he could easily kill all the predacons and maybe not his transmetal 2 clone maybe be evenly matched
I kind of liked the setup where, while Megatron was pretty strong, you got the sense he STAYED leader because of his charisma and smarts. All his cronies were just too stupid/argumentative/backbiting to ever team up against him, and he was very good at playing their weaknesses against each other.
this is such a criminally underrated show
It is not.
Back in the day, this was genuinely one of the best shows ever. It only "failed" because toy sales weren't going as planned, yet people still truly loved the show.
It has a huge cult following even to this day.
@@jayjay86443are you sure?
The series was extremely successful not only was the show super beloved but toy sales were at an all time high
I think you meant Beast machines (the shitty sequel series) failed because the show was super controversial because of how angry it made old fans
And the toys didn’t save it one bit
Wish he had made it to BeastMachines
@michelcoolguy1701 beast machines had some nice ideas, but ruined a brilliant show imo. Changing the characters too much and in terrible ways.
I think I remembe reading the creators had never watched beast wars, and that's a big problem.
Megatron: What possible reason do you have to disobey me?! I am your master! I am your CREATOR!
Dinobot II: And I...have my honor!
Megatron: *triggered*
I kinda wish Dinobot had a battle with Megatron even if Megatron was more powerful. It would still had been cool to see.
Never say the H word in front of Megatron.
@Kyle Baltzer I would always think someone with Megatron's mindset would consider words like "honor" as profanity. Lol.
@Kyle Baltzer Can you picture this argument?
Optimus Primal: "I fight for justice, honor and freedom!"
Megatron:" BY THE MATRIX, PRIMAL!! SUCH LANGUAGE!!"
@Kaecilius Yep. He was had a great blend of experience, strength & courage. That is the original. HE I have no problem with dying. His clone on the other hand was a total waste.
6:11 the moment the real Dinobot returned and remembered his code of honor
Megatron was a bastard for playing god by reviving a noble warrior as a savage ruthless android-like clone
Michael Toloumu But life finds a way.
Twice, mind you. Megatron could not let dinobot's betrayal go.
its a clone
And he used that freak's half spark to do it.
@@RequiemPoete dinobot 1 will return in beast wars nemesis. Out in 2020.
One of the things I like about Dinobot and rarely see ppl talk about it is his relationship with optimus primal he truly respected prime as a warrior they were like good war friends, several times when optimus got hurt Dinobot would call his name in concern especially the one where optimus had that berserker virus and At the end of the episode dinobot was watching over optimus waiting for him to wake up and tells him its good to have him back and even brought him flowers 🌸 lol
He's always weirdly sweet
No matter what happened to him dinobot is a hero and always will be!
Isn't that right guys.
yes!!
There was actually an episode that was cut, and sold as a comic packed in with a toy. The comic details the cut episode in which Rattrap tries to upload a copy of Dinobot’s memory into Dinobot 2. It seems like it failed but as we see in the series finale, it worked after Rampage died.
@Dingle
So Dinobot didn't return to his old self because his genetic memory took hold after Rampage died, but because Rapttrap tried to reprogram him with Dinobot's memories?
Huh...
@@DemonicRemptionboth. Rattrap uploaded the data tracks, but it didn't take until rampages spark blew up.
The lost episode is called dark glass
Imagine if he lived to beast machines. Having to reconcile that he was a copy and still his own person
would of been an amazing story
At least his honor hasn’t changed.
Would have been interested to see the clone interact with himself
Given that the clone never had a non-transmetal form, he would've initially had to have been a vehicon. I feel they could've done what they did with Silverbolt better with Dinobot 2 instead. With Silverbolt it never made sense how he suddenly became overly confrontational and edgy, but Dinobot's character always had undertones of that, particularly in Season 1
James Sinclair I think the personality changes were caused by a shell program, the same thing megatron used on the protoforms on earth to establish them as predacons, like blackarachnia and inferno. His use of them on the vehicons generals was his form of an ironic and sadistic enjoyment. He mad Rhinox an idiot, he made Silverbolt cruel and he made waspinator actually competent.
As for the trans metal part, that’s where things get interesting to me. When the virus hit them, “basic” transformers were made immobile, transemetals were reverted and they had short term memory loss. However what’s odd about that last point is that optimuses current body has never been anything but a transmetal. This leads me to think that dinobot2 would “revert” to an organic looking raptor similar to the original dinobot. I mean he has to have some organic nature and not be entirely mechanical, or the energon on earth would have caused him to shut down, meaning he is a tansmetal with at least enough in common with the others that the virus should do the same to him.
Both of his deaths were some of the saddest and yet noblest in the Transformers franchise. Still wish Transmetal 2 Dinobot had survived.
On a technical note though, looking back at these scenes it's really cool to see how the animation improved over the years, and how it shows with Dinobot.
nahh its good he got a good send off. do we really want to tarnish dinobots honor ....in BEAST MAChiNes?
It's actually possible Dinobot 2 survived, because he has healing factor (although not quite Waspinator level).
Seems Rattrape was right. Chopperface can't be truste😂😂😂
Waspernater is invisible! He even survived the rebooting of the whole planet without even his bad luck changing!
I'd have to agree. Always seemed like a cheap way to write him off, particularly because he was literally next to optimus yet gets left behind anyway, despite seeing plenty of times where optimus can still fly while carrying someone; even after the crash he was still in sprinting distance, but they both just gave up even thought it was against their characters.
But yeah the animation advancement was a sight to behold, even going from Reboot to this.
My favorite version of Dinobot/transmetal. The silver metallic white , burgundy reddish purple and charcoal grey color scheme , the wicked raptor/ robot hybrid design. Dinobot 2 seems to have a sadictic , savagery, demeanor that reminds me of the Predator. If only the original Dinobot had morphed into the transmetal early on Beast Wars like Rattrap and Cheetor.
I think he'd look slightly different because this version of Dinobot was a Transmetal 2, not just a regular Transmetal so in my opinion he'd probably look a little different. But it's a neat idea to think about a Transmetal 1 Dinobot. Lets be honest tho I don't think that needed it.
Had Dinobot become a transmetal he probably would have survived the war.
@@DinoBot65 his vehicle mode would probably have his tail split and fly like a helicopter perhaps
I'm glad he didn't. Old Dinobot shows the power of his will and by that he is one of the strongest. No need of shiny new transmetal to be the best.
Dinobot was my favorite. I still remember when they had the white raptors and I kept saying "what if they bring back Dinobot!" Then they were hinting it in that episode, and then he steps out and snarls, then it cuts to commercials without showing him, but I was already exclaiming YES! YES! YES! YES! THEY DID IT!!! then I got the figure at KB Toys. Unforgettable times.
Missed the best quote by Rhinox
“ For everything that ever was.”
Great line. Nemesis was freaking intense and awesome episode.
4:55 The very instant he remembers the music plays... This show was so much better than we deserved for the time.
Dinobot has always been my favorite transformer
Robert Henry Scott Mine too.
Waspinator says bullshit you no like Lizardbot, Waspinator is better.
Disposable_Hero You're fine Waspinator. You are just not as cool. That's all.
Disposable_Hero And alone forever.
Dinobot and Depth Charge were just total badasses. It's a tragedy they didn't survive the war.
This show really had it all. It was a privilege to see it.
Amazing how this show had so many different characters and how they played off one another was perfect.
Always felt that the appearance of Dinobot was after Starscream, but everything else was opposite in everything else. That’s what made him awesome.
Alternatively, I also felt that Armada Starscream's personality was modeled after Dinobot's
I don't see it.
What if Primal brought Rattrap with him to stop Megatron and Dinobot 2 on the Nemesis? We see Rattrap head for Dinobot 2 and tackle him to get him away from the control table to prevent him from firing up the Nemesis' systems. Dinobot 2 wasn't paying attention and was shocked from the unexpected force of Rattrap's tackle and with him now becoming enraged and being much bigger than Rattrap, he throws him off and pins Rattrap down and throws his gun out of his holster leaving Rattrap defenseless. Optimus sees this and attempts to aid his friend but Megatron keeps Optimus' attention. Dinobot 2 looks at Rattrap for a moment seemingly recognizing him as not a foe, but as an old comrade from another time. However, sentimentality is all but lost on this clone as it was almost entirely gone in the original Dinobot as well. As Dinobot 2 prepares to quickly kill Rattrap so he can get back to work on the Nemesis, Rattrap attempts to get through to Dinobot 2 who despite everything he has had done to him and his comrades, he still believed his old friend was still somewhere in there despite all the odds. Dinobot 2 just snarls and prepares to strike him down. Rattrap realizing at that point that if there was anything left of his friend in this disgrace to his name, it was all gone. Rattrap makes a disappointed remark to Dinobot in a typical smart-ass way saying "What are you waiting for lizard lips? We've done this before just finish the job already will ya?" In that moment with Dinobot 2's loyalties towards Megatron being questioned and receiving a memory of the original Dinobot earlier, he has a flashback to that moment in "Maximal, No More" of him about to strike Rattrap down but spares him and defends him from Megatron. In that moment, the original Dinobot's personality briefly comes to the surface with his right eye flickering from Dinobot 2's firey orange eyes to Dinobot's dark red eyes.
.....now I’m sad this didn’t happen. That would have been such a strong way to finish the arc. Surprised this didn’t occur to the writers
@@yarmen1268 I wish something like this would've occurred to give Dinobot and Rattrap 1 last moment together
You don’t have to like someone to respect them. Dinobot was always an honorable warrior
Original Dinobot vs clone dinobot
Rumor has it there was actually supposed to be an episode where Rattrap snuck into the Predacon base and downloaded Dinobot's memories or something into the clone but, it got scrapped
I'm starting to think poor megatron actually misses dinobot considering this is the 2nd time he cloned him
3:57 *OOOOOOO HE USED THE H WORD*
BOX GOB THE EXCAVATOR MAN hentai??
Honor XD
@@Orange67647 HONOR
@@CT-Irodion Lmao I love you! 😂
Megatron actually said *YOU DARE USE THE H WORD TO ME!*
It should be worth noting that there was an unproduced episode, 'Dark Glass',
where Rattrap uploaded the original Dinobot's datatrax (or, his memories) into Dinobot II.
Which is why after Rampage's death, the personality of the original Dinobot finally took control,
and Dinobot II made the same honorable sacrifice that his predecessor made in the end.
Shame they didnt produced that episode, the finale would have been more epic.
Wow, i remember now that dinobot copied His memories. Everything makes sense now, thank you.
Except, the memories of the back up were made before his final stand defending the pre-humans
Best is right, and Dinobot died a true hero because of it and why he said, "Farewell, Optimus Primal." To be honest, i like Dinobot. He represents honor by it's true meaning.
They brought him back just to kill him off again. I am getting some series Headmasters deja Vu right now.
1:50
*Dinobot blasts his hand*
Dinobot: Dammit, not only did I break a nail, I broke the finger it was attached to!
Of course, he grew it back in moments akin to a Marvel Comics character with a regenerative healing factor (Hulk, Wolverine, Sabertooth, etc)
@@civilwildman Well they are machines that can be repaired, as well as being living beings with souls.
@@pittland44 It had nothing to do with that, it was because he had Part of Rampage's mutant indestructible spark, and Rampage himself was shown to heal/repair himself naturally.
@@civilwildman Because he had half of Rampage's spark and Rampage himself was shown in past episodes to repair/heal himself naturally.
@@ValiantWrestling Even Rampage required repairs from time to time, the end of Bad Spark when he fell off the cliff and was shorting out springs to mind.
"This all seems hauntingly familiar...but why?" Chills. Every. Time.
Invoking Frankenstein and Jurassic Park. What a time to be a kid.
3:21 that humanoid is using the same Hammer that DinoBot used to defeat Megatron and save the Valley and destroy the Golden Disc
Did anyone see that rubber duckie or is it just me?
BlueStorm yup it's at 1:58
BlueStorm yes lol
Just about every time Megatron is in that tub, the ducky is to be found. One time he even monologued at it.
Yes...yes, I saw the rubber duckie.
Lmaooo
Man this show was good. Beast machines was just to weird for me.
Dinobot was always my favorite
Always had alot of love for dinobot, easily one of the best beast wars characters
4:25 I guess he's a real fire ant now!
Pershing lol his name is Inferno for a reason
He can fly why didn’t he
So is quickstrike
*slaps knee* That's a good one
I remember I had the toy of TM2 Dinobot, he and cheetor were 2 of the 3 best transformers. Tigerhawk was the third best, all 3 looked so badass.
3:40 megatrons pettiness was his ultimate downfall
“Fare well…Optimus prime…”
Farewell. Old friend. You will Always be a hero.
Step one into making one of your villains a sickening vile piece of slag: Have them bastardize a beloved and heroic character and ripping out their sense of honor by replacing it with ruthlessness.
Step two: Have it backfire on them by having their creation turn on them.
I was born in 92, so i was lucky enough to see the original run of this as it cane out.
This and roughneck; starship troopers chronicles were the best back then.
Dinobot and cheetor were my favorites. Odd, it was the ONLY transformers show where optimus wasn't my favorite.
Dinobot was a tragic hero. At least in the end, he saved mankind
Transmetal 2 cheetor is my favorite maximal by far.
I hated the designs for beast machines, but the story was cool.
The designs NEVER grew on me during the entire show, but the ongoing story was engaging.
I highly advise everyone to see beastwars, beast machines, and roughnecks.
3 great cgi shows from the dark ages.
The era of Yahoo, aol, ask jeeves, and the Rosie odonnel show
Transmetal 2 Dinobot looks like a metallic nightmare, and I friggin LOVE it! :D
Salvé Poderoso Legendario BullBlack de Seijuu Sentai Gingaman de Súper Sentai De Tokusatsu saludos guerrero épico
0:59 Transmetal dinobot: *Robot dinosaur growls*
Transmetal megatron: *cackles wickedly* YEEEEEEEEEEEESSS!!!! IT’S ALIVE!!!! *Cackles even more wickedly*
I remember that dinobot was my favorite. Love when he disobeid Megatron. He is always doing the same hehe
Do you ever wish that Starscream from Energon would be more like Dinobot II, just like how Armada was as honorable as the 1st Dinobot?
I agree, such a waste just having Starscream just be the typical variation.
I never thought of that, that sounds really cool.
Armada Starscream was a joke of a character, with a horrible voice and badly written character story.
@@ValiantWrestling Wow. You're not even wrong. Armada Starscream was the best part of the show. He had an arc and even ended up defecting to the Autobots before sacrificing himself to get both Optimus and Megatron to work together to fight Unicron.
He live a Warrior , he dies as Hero .
What a Brave and Honorable you are , Dinobot 💪😎👍.
After saving the human race Dinobot should go back in time to fight not just alongside the Autobots but joining forces with other fictional superheroes as well .That will be a truly honorable 🎖 reward. And when he goes to a restaurant ----order big like a ginormous T-bone steak with veggie fixings and a slice of apple pie 🥧 with cool whip .he should eat big for example he did ate his clone.
Even as a clone, it was Dinobot. Best character of Transformers ever!
Optimus shouldn't leave him behind, Dinobot transmetal would be a great new warrior. Miss that guy.
It's too bad we never got a Transmetal I version
Si hubiera sido en Transformers Prime 2 secuela debut del Dinobot Transmetál 1
Dinobot 2 had inside info on what Beast Machines was gonna be like. That's why he stayed on the Nemesis. Noped right of of that situation >.>
I always felt bad for Inferno and Quickstrike.
Quickstrike mi Predacon favorito
1:59 megatron has a rubber ducky 😂😂😂
Fcking Optimal Optimus, twice did he not save Dinobot when he couldve done so.
Kaila Kang Werty Good point. Why didn't he pick up Dinobot 2 off of the Nemesis as it was crashing? It would had been cool to at least gotten Dinobot in Beast Machines.
Dinobot Kiryu Bcuz Dinobot could be a better MC than him. xD
Kaila Kang Werty What does MC stand for?
I know Optimus should have saved Dinobot but that’s how the story goes and call it an act of redemption cuz Dinobot saved history twice but at the cost of his life and a noble deed.
"Fairwell Optimus Pri*! heyyy, what are you doing. Get off me. I wish to die an honourable death!"
3:00 Megatron knew what happened in a technical sense, but didn't think it all the way through.
He got too arrogant after finding the nemesis and it lead to defeat.
Man if Megatron’s ego didn’t keep getting in his way, he’d win a heck of a lot more.
At first I was kinda upset that they brought back Dinobot only to make him a villain again. But then I watched further and realized he was still the same.
I wish could a re-incarnate Dinobot like Bumblebee and Opitmud Prime
Dude reading your comment made me think I couldn't read.
Man, I miss the Beast Wars
His character is just one of the best in all media. He on original form and the transmetal are iconic.
* Sigh * - If only they had thought of what would happen if a Stasis Pod, scanned a Human or human skeleton? Now THAT Transformer would be Unique Indeed!!!
There's a human transformer in Transformers Animated called sari (don't know if I've spelt that right.)
Humans are boring though. We want to see robots turn into animals, not Bob from next door.
Also that creepy thing from the live-action movie. *shudders*
I believe those types of transformers exist, and are called "Pretenders".
Sari did try that since she was born.
I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but I kinda like the way Dinobot 2 sounds more than the original Dinobot.
Hahaha Waspinator is Igor, and Megatron is Frankenstein.
And Dinobot was their monster, YEEEESSSS!!!
"Why universe hate Waspinator?"
love it that the series began and ended with an act of heroism from dinobot!
RIP Dinobot. One of the greatest transformers of all!!! 🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖
He had the most awesome death scene in all Transformer history. #1 for sure.
I'm surprised that megatron brought dinobot back over any of his other minions like scorponock whom unlike the pteradon was actually loyal.
Jacob Weatherford You mean Terrorsaur?
Dinobot was the only one who ever bested him~
Terrorsaur tried to betray him too xD
I liked Scorponocks. He was always one of my favorites.
Megatron is obsessed with Dinobot. I suspect before landing on the "wrong planet", Dinobot was not only the most competent, but the most loyal to the original plan. I have the feeling that Dinobot (and maybe Tarantulas) was the only one who knew the real plan was to go to earth and alter time. The rest Megatron convinced with promises of power and energon.
What a wasted character! He could had been such a contribute to Beast Machines if he had lived! I could egsept the original Dinobot's death. But not this one. He could had grown a unique personality as an Maximal warrior against Megatrons Vehicons as someone who has worked with Megatron and knows of his true mad nature. Mabye he could had grown a bigger connection with Rattrap in seeing the true danger of their surcomstanses or getting to know the Maximals more deeply being forced in company with them or a mental stability problem or controlling his inner rage against Megatron. A growth to care about someone other than himself. Going on a quest to find who he truly is being confused of who he really could be in the inside. Having the half spark of Rampage and the DNA or the original Dinobot. A confused soul of two long gone bots. Mabye he could had been a great fighter and made Beast Machines gain a better reception among fans. I would surely had loved to had seen that. He would be like a Dinobot Jr of sorts in sharing a connection of turning from a nobody to a special somebody. Growing feelings and learning from his comrades. They could had done so much with him. But, they just killed with no thought what so ever sadly.
Plus, I would had liked to had seen how he would had looked in Beast Machines. And what if he was to communicate with the original Dinobot in seeking advice in how to defeat Megatron. And what if Dinobot 2 were to become fascinated in studying the true meaning of free will in how it makes us all who we are. He could had learned how to make himself a unique individual apart from Rampage and Dinobot 1 and all the other Maximals. It would be like how Optimus said about how the Matrix created life on Cybertron to grow and evolve to learn the true well being of living and as the Generations pass on to each other, the world and knowledge builds and adapts to prosper and thrive all around. This could had made Dinobot 2 become a freedo, fighter for the right of free will building a commentary on oppression and slavery showing how Megatron's ambitions are misguided and unbalance. And as someone who grew up as a Predacon in the rough environment and seeing the ways of sides could be able to learn how to fix the issues for both sides wich can bring peace to Cybertron ending the whole series on a great high note much like how the Beast Machines show was all about balancing and blending the organic and technological to bring them together as one were as a character like Dinobot could had brought it to a higher level of greatness. Or just simply be a fun character to bring enjoyment into a epic show like how he did in the Beast Wars. I don't know really. I just like Dinobot alot.
They killed him off due to the writers realising that there was no point of having Dinobot dead if they were just gonna bring him back
The Ghost Well then what was the point of bringing him back then HUH! Why couldn't they just make a new character. Besides, Dinobot 2 is really not the same as the original Dinobot when you think about it. I was just showing what I thought would make a introsting character arc.
Dinobot Kiryu Yes I agree with what you are saying, but since the show was almost near it's end my guess is the writers realised they didn't have much time to develop Dinobot 2 and it's a shame they had so much potential to develop him. Also it would've been cool to see him in Beast Machines
The Ghost Can you imagine what his design would had looked like? I always used to imagine this stuff back when I was younger. I was a huge nerd in Beast Wars as a child and always enjoyed it when Dinobot was on screen anticipating where he would go next. I grew to accept his original death. Just not his second death. I like your profile picture by the way. I am also a huge Venom fan as well. He's up there with The Green Goblin as the best Spider Man Villains and hope to see him in a Future Spider-Man film. Do they plan to?
I had never seen Beast Wars when I was young but I had a Dinobot Transmetal figure and never knew what it was 😂
Great character, Dinobot is certainly one of the best characters in Transformers. He deserves to be remembered. 🤩
I remember having a dinobot toy when I was a kid.... good times.
2:50 Agonizing Pain
I wish they kept Dinobot alive even with his new transmetal body
Dinobot always reminded me of Vegeta, with prime being goku
I see more of picilo but I respect
I hadnt notice before how Optimus had the transwarp module in his hand as he scapes
This is the best version of Megatron. Totally evil and maniacal to the core and actually got things done 👍🏾
As well as tarantulas and black arachnia... This along with rattrap not being in TROTB was a big disappointment
Oh I can't forget my boy with the ant colony complex lol he was off the chain😅
Id say Dinobot is worthy of his name. and he brought high honor to it. Till All Are One.
That was better than all of bays movies combined
Why is it that TM2 Dinobot reminds me so much of The Predator?
nexusshark You mean from the movies?
nexusshark If that's the case, Dinobot would make a great Predator. That should be like a fan film or something.
@@DinobotKiryu It would be interesting as a fan film
He always reminded me of Wolverine. The claws and his healing factor.
he really had a obsession with Dinobot
Hola Poderoso Díos Del Universo De Súper Sentai De Tokusatsu saludos Díos
He lived a warrior.....and died a hero. May his spark join the matrix, the greatest of Cybertron.
Tell My tale to those who ask, tell it truly, the Ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly, the rest is silence
I'm really gonna miss Dinobot after what happened ;_;
Ojalá una Excelente seríe nueva de Yu-Gi-Oh
The lost episode "Dark Glass" would have explained alot of what happened to Dinobot in the last 2 episodes.
ya i wish they would of made that lost episode
6:29 this is the greatest plan!!!!!
Definitely my favorite anti-hero before I started watching anime with characters like Vegeta
Beast wars megatron’s catchphrase: yeeess
I found that out Yesssterday
Megatron tore in half the Spark, the soul of a fellow Transformer and puts it in a torture device to enslave its owner.
He takes an unborn life, innocent and pure, shoves the mutilated soul into it. He then desecrates the body of a hero, an absolute martyr out of sheer spire, and condemns him to become his grotesque slave, a half-living affront to Dinobot's own noble sacrifice.
It's probably one of the most heinous act I've seen in fiction outside of outright genocide (and guess what crime Megatron tries to commit at least twice towards mankind in this series!), and one of the reasons I consider him one of the most monstrous and vile villain I've ever seen.
Well at least he was a Maximal at heart in the end.
Once a warrior, always a warrior and hero. A truly tragic character in his essence, b
I know they had to cancel an episode but i really wished they had the chance to do more with dinobots clone before the final episode.
I think there is a chance that Dino bot is still alive on prehistoric Earth. He still has Rampage's inextinguishable spark. (Which mind you, has survived far worse explosions, even when severed in two)
Also, Image a spin-off series about Dinobot reviving the remaining maximal protoforms. I'd watch the hell out of that
😭 noooo I cried when armada starscream died when prowl died in animated. ,and bawled when dinobot died again 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Share the same memories with the old dinobot
You forgot the part where Dinobot meets DepthCharge and DepthCharge detects Rampage’s spark in the fight.