The Physics of Pumping on a Skateboard - Fully Explained + Easy to Understand!

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  • I have been wanting to make this video for a very long time now, and finally here it is! A full, accurate, explanation of how to pump on a skateboard and exactly why it works, complete with experimental proof (actually showing my explanation from 5 years ago to be incomplete)
    This video was a lot of fun to make, and I'm excited to get the ball rolling again on uploading skateboarding videos now that my foot is finally starting to feel good enough to actually go skateboarding.
    Thanks for all of the support in the meantime, and just know that all of you guys make the long hours I put into these videos way more than worth it!
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  • @lancelovecraft5913
    @lancelovecraft5913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Physics major here. Excellent video. Ppl at the park often talk in terms of speed, not wrong, but I think the conservation of energy is a far more effective conversation. Great use of normal vectors and vector components in ur explanation of forces as well

  • @polarproductionsofficial
    @polarproductionsofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This is the best pumping tutorial I’ve ever watched

  • @cryptictyga8426
    @cryptictyga8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The legend is back 🙌

  • @Mistytario
    @Mistytario 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As an engineer and begginer skater, this was what I needed to understand how to pump. Great video!

  • @danfromzr3289
    @danfromzr3289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’m a big time big bowl skater and you just changed my life. I know the muscle memory and have the strength to maintain solid speed. However I think understanding this in depth is going to help so much.
    In my head I see it almost as jumping off of a slanted wall into flat ground. If you can add that factor you will go even faster than just standing up at the bottom.

  • @SunriseSessions
    @SunriseSessions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    After watching tons of instruction video's and trying to remember all the actions I had to execute.... It took about 10 seconds in this video to actually understand the physics and now I don't have to remember anything because I simply 'get it'. Best tutorial ever. Thnx heaps

  • @thesodathief
    @thesodathief 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    bro no way Justin Lauria thE GOAT IS BACK 2020 might not be so shitty after all

  • @maiochka
    @maiochka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is terrific, especially the experimental part 'No pumping Vs. crouching only Vs. pushing off only'. Thanks Justin!

    • @maiochka
      @maiochka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got one question: should I push off equally with both feet or should I press more with the back foot? Thanx for your time!

  • @ViniciusFortuna
    @ViniciusFortuna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    From what I understand, the physics is about angular momentum. On a circle L = mass * velocity * radius. Because L is constant, you can increase the velocity by reducing the radius. You reduce the radius at the top curve by compressing and at the bottom curve by extending. I think switching between compressed and extended when going straight doesn't affect your momentum, so it's important to change position in the curved parts of the ramp or bowl. More details and math at www.real-world-physics-problems.com/physics-of-skateboarding.html

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!!! Thanks fellow accurate physicist, you've said it all, this it the correct explanation.

    • @hosoiarchives4858
      @hosoiarchives4858 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

  • @datukalex
    @datukalex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So cool that you’re back. I’ve learned so much from your older videos. Really hoping this is the start of more. And on this topic-I was just figuring our that the push was as important as the crouch a few days ago. Still working on my pumping, but I think you just handed all of us the keys.

  • @edbisdee
    @edbisdee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for ages i've been looking for a tutorial that explains pumping properly, i've been thinking to myself 'I don't think i can trust a tutorial that doesn't explain the force vectors'. and this is spot on for it!
    Also, great hat!

  • @dereksilva1523
    @dereksilva1523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ur back!!! I really missed ur content, ur my favorite skating TH-cam channel so keep up the skate content!

  • @domingosprudencio3498
    @domingosprudencio3498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Duude I just learned how to pump today because of your videos. Coming back home after successfully pumping in a ramp at my local skatepark and seeing a new video of yours about how pumping physics works is truly satisfying

  • @matthiasvoigt1380
    @matthiasvoigt1380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Justin, thank you for the video. The explanation is better than the old one, but i think still not accurate. I believe that the key point is that you have do work against the centrifugal force (~v*v/r, where v is speed and r the radius of the transition). That is why it works good on smooth transitions and less good an sharp angles.

    • @OMNIPHEAST
      @OMNIPHEAST 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Banks and transitions both require us to do work, so he wasn't wrong, just not as thorough as possible.
      What I might call "wrong" is saying the total energy of the system increased.
      Actually, he only looked at gravitational potential energy and not the chemical potential energy which we convert into kinetic energy by pumping.

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And so since you seem to know a bit more about physics, the exact equation that explains everything is L = I*omega
      and since I = mr^2 (where r is the radius so the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the ramp) and omega = v/r, L = m*r*v, and m (your mass) is a constant, L stays constant for an isolated system (in this case the you-skateboard system) and since r gets smaller, v (your linear velocity aka your speed) has to get bigger in order to compensate for r getting smaller so that L stays constant.

  • @raphaelosorio4388
    @raphaelosorio4388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The surfing community needs someone like you! Trying to apply what I learned here to surfing

  • @emresongur721
    @emresongur721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am an engineer learning to skate. That was exactly what I needed. Very clear explanation. Onece I know how it works then I do not think but do.

  • @quandary23
    @quandary23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lmao my physics teacher should show this to his classes to show how physics matters in the real world - love the video, nice job!

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha that would definitely be epic! Thank you 🙏

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.
      So basically if your physics teacher showed this to his classes to illustrate anything else than kinetic energy turning into potential energy and vice versa (which was the correct part of the video) then he would be incorrect as well.

  • @memorysometimers3067
    @memorysometimers3067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad to see ya back bro!! You definitely in the best state possible right now.

  • @RamManNo1
    @RamManNo1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a video that truly explains pumping! I just learned this technique on a 4 ft half pipe. Finally able to go top to top. Slammed hard and got some wicked burn on my elbow and a bruised hip. But damn it was awesome! Hopefully be able to drop in soon.

  • @eqvbohsds8955
    @eqvbohsds8955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro!!!!! You!!!!! You are the one!!!! THEEE ONE!!!!! Pumping finally makes sense to me!!!! Cant wait to try it out after healing from my ankle injury! Bro! Love you man!!!!!! #muchlove #suchappreciates

  • @bugnut82
    @bugnut82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just thinking today that I wish there was a video that explained the physics, and here it is!

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey I'm really sorry to disapoint but this isn't the actual physical explanation of how pumping works :/
      There's a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" that explains (in a pretty poor way unfortunately) how it actually works.

  • @MrZuludemidog
    @MrZuludemidog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks 🙏🏽 -always wanted an actual break down of how n why “pumping” works!

  • @lucasthompson8765
    @lucasthompson8765 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video fixed my inability to tic tac. I wasn't utilizing the friction of the wheels and pumping to generate momentum in the direction I wanted to go. I have never heard it explained like this. Thank you and keep up the great content. +1 sub

  • @professorwolverinebeardsan470
    @professorwolverinebeardsan470 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Former physics student here who was just wondering about this...This is so great!

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      By the way just wanna throw that out here, same thing for me, I was a former physics student who wanted to understand how it worked but the explanation in this video just isn't correct, as you can easily see by the fact that you could gain speed by only pumping when going "up" the transition and never down the transition, and when you go up the transition, you can obviously not "push on the ground" since, as his vectors show at some point in the video, if the thing creating speed was pushing on the floor for it to react, it would push you *backwards* and not forward, slowing you down instead of accelerating you.
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @Skylarka
    @Skylarka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best pumping tutorial on the internet. Great work, thank you!

  • @thelankgod8073
    @thelankgod8073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THE KING RETURNS!!!!

  • @lightning3605
    @lightning3605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Welcome back
    Also 1:58 is really satisfying

  • @fanbulma8879
    @fanbulma8879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as always good video 😀 ! i need fly out video 🙂

  • @RegularFootisChris
    @RegularFootisChris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video! Thank you for speaking slow and clear! Back in the 1990's we Called it Compressing!

  • @noahyenerich9509
    @noahyenerich9509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can’t believe he is back. Let’s goooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • @DDRaHolic
    @DDRaHolic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Between this and your other video, I finally pumped after a few days of trying. If anyone else is having trouble pumping, my issue was that when I would ride back down fakie, I wasn’t bending my knees enough and sucking my knees into my chest as I started to pump.

  • @MrEpic-nr4oi
    @MrEpic-nr4oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've watched a lot of these tutorials, and this one is best of all. It combines every possibility in one video, thanks for creating this

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man!!

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

    • @garretteverett2613
      @garretteverett2613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Raphael, maybe spend more time making the video and less time copy-pasting your comment into every other reply on these videos. I'm sure you have valuable things to say but I've encountered doomsday evangelists with more reserved and tactful output.

    • @ct96
      @ct96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raphaelpoitou8609 I wouldn't be so quick to discount this explanation with statements like "the way it actually works......". What you have described is the Curvilinear motion explanation of movement around a curve which describes forces on an object in a reference frame tangential to the path it is travelling, at any instance of time that motion can also be analysed using Rectilinear methods which use the resultants of forces acting on an object during its motion in a rectangular reference frame. Of course I still can't guarantee this explanation is correct without breaking out my old Dynamics textbook and doing a few problems both ways and then comparing the directions of forces etc to his explanation but these problems can definitely be solved in both ways with both explanations being the way it works, just using different concepts.

  • @jadranlee5440
    @jadranlee5440 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great. I feel like the speed boost you get in the “just crouching” scenario is from the fact that your crouching motion stops *before* the end of the ramp. At the moment when you get to the bottom of your crouching motion, your body ends up pushing against the earth to decelerate the downward crouching motion. So the pure crouch is really like a stealth push. If you had a shorter ramp and your crouching down movement ended on the flat ground rather than on the ramp, you probably wouldn’t get the speed boost.

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I completely and totally agree with you

    • @jadranlee5440
      @jadranlee5440 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NeverStopImprovingSBThanks for responding and for putting out these awesome videos!

  • @The0rbiter
    @The0rbiter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm geeking out over how you increased the kinetic energy as you pushed forward at 1:50. Gotta admire the attention to detail.

  • @fidddd_
    @fidddd_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a good thing that you are 'not stopping imporving.'

  • @TheMeepitFeepit
    @TheMeepitFeepit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So excited to see this in my notifications!! 😍

    • @BadBBilly7
      @BadBBilly7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same here, i was like...oh yeah the GOAT is back online.

  • @jayduf9054
    @jayduf9054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so awesome , yesterday I did my best pumps ever and after watching this video I’m going to do even better today 😄👊🏻

  • @JesusL0vesY0u
    @JesusL0vesY0u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude why you no upload in so long.

  • @Xsuperkraft
    @Xsuperkraft ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this very helpful video - you are the first, who really made me understand the concept and practice of pumping!

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate you saying that! I think it's so cool how it works

  • @guangruli4486
    @guangruli4486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the correction you did

  • @tattd_snw_wht
    @tattd_snw_wht ปีที่แล้ว

    Longboard newbie here. Gotta get the muscle control gains 😅 thanks for the tips!

  • @GeorgeAustria
    @GeorgeAustria 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Free body diagrams 👀 nice job! They're a great visual

  • @justindavisphotography
    @justindavisphotography 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you posting a skate video again Justin. Good to see some local spots too. Interesting topic. I’ve often wondered about the physics of pumping. I do it, but I don’t know how / why it works. Good explanation.

  • @DeniseNepraunig
    @DeniseNepraunig 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My inner engineer is happy watching this! Really great video and explanation 👍

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a ton! 💪

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @jkou5549
    @jkou5549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thank you. I’m 56 and learning to skate a bowl and your tips are awesome!

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! and thank you!

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @michaelowens2501
    @michaelowens2501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you are back, hopefully this is a start of you making skating videos again. 🤙🤙

  • @adeeter
    @adeeter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for sharing. I was looking for a physics-based explanation for biking a pump track and I think this is a good parallel.

  • @morozom91
    @morozom91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Exactly what I was looking for, with the scientific explanation for pumping.

  • @yooowazzam9782
    @yooowazzam9782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    yep i totally know a lot of algebra and science🙄

    • @OMNIPHEAST
      @OMNIPHEAST 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good news. This requires zero algebra, just arrows.
      If you look at an introduction to vectors, it doesn't really require numbers, the visual is pretty intuitive.
      From there, if you find vectors interesting, you might learn some algebra or science.
      In fact, a vector is a first order tensor, and Einstein was said to be unsure about his tensor algebra and had it checked by other mathematicians.

    • @yooowazzam9782
      @yooowazzam9782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OMNIPHEAST yup i understood this 😅

  • @talbrott
    @talbrott 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great lesson, this is a habit I must cultivate

  • @BadBBilly7
    @BadBBilly7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woohooo!, your back Justin, we missed your awesome tutorials bro, yessss, this is a good day

  • @bluetetanus
    @bluetetanus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonderful video!

  • @jacksoncarter6352
    @jacksoncarter6352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video I don’t even skateboard I was just wondering this question and surprisingly there aren’t a whole lot of videos that go over the actual physics

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @vitorstipp3498
    @vitorstipp3498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    jezzzz you are awesome! Hugs from Brazil!

  • @thndr_5468
    @thndr_5468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video, can't wait to give these a shot next time I skate!

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I spend a majority of my time skating just pumping around endlessly at the skatepark. It is so dang much fun.

  • @BigMeechBurns
    @BigMeechBurns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is excellent and I believe it kinda disproves rockets, since in space they have nothing to push off of..

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's like if you were holding a bowling ball and standing on a skateboard and you threw the bowling ball behind you

  • @Bahomar
    @Bahomar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, thanks so much, cheers

  • @dougkalagian
    @dougkalagian ปีที่แล้ว

    really great explanation, thank you!

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aww man I'm glad you enjoyed it, always nice to meet a fellow skate nerd 😝

  • @1tonyjaa
    @1tonyjaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice its great to see you back :D

  • @scorpio2t
    @scorpio2t 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know Arnold’s talkin bout that pump! 🤣
    Great video 👍

  • @pandacinnamon
    @pandacinnamon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Skateboarding is for nerds! Thank you for this

  • @indiasuaujunca
    @indiasuaujunca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Still can't get to carve endlessly in the bowl. I guess it's not a thing One practice session... And I find the backside carve more difficult. Like I'm gonna fall on my face!

  • @patximendizabal5150
    @patximendizabal5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That skatepark looks awesome

  • @ProgressSkateboarding
    @ProgressSkateboarding 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice one, champ!

  • @raphaelpoitou8609
    @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh and btw I'm adressing this comment directly to you Never Stop Improving, since I know you might end up seing all of my kind of "copy paste" comments : your video was really well done, looked good and you sounded really convincing, I'm just trying to bring the correct explanation to people who want to learn the actual physics behind this incredible phenomenon that is pumping, as you thought you did by correcting yourself from your own older video. I hope you will understand and not delete all of my comments.
    Kindly,
    Raphaël

  • @eleme88
    @eleme88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My man your work is good. Please keep it up!

  • @AN-vs5pb
    @AN-vs5pb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES HE IS BACK LET'S GOOOOOO

  • @TheBluesmon
    @TheBluesmon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been bowl skating to improve my surfing. This really helped me understand why I have so much trouble generating speed on my backside. Thanks! BTW from the background in the videos are you in ATX?

  • @Remolhunter97
    @Remolhunter97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks mate. best video out there

  • @termitedidge
    @termitedidge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, really enjoying your content.

  • @dead7781
    @dead7781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:46 I don't think the vectors are accurate. Either that or I'm dumb.
    Can someone explain?
    (Edit)
    I just figured it out. ...I think.
    You're logic when going down is solid, but when going up the ramp you're not adding more force in the direction you're going, you're decreasing the force that's against you by crouching.
    As your going up the ramp, your weight is making the ramp push against you perpendicular to the ramp. The is why pushing down on the board while your going up makes you go slower. But if you lighten yourself, by crouching, the less you will be pushing down on the ramp, the less the ramp will be pushing on you and therefore more momentum is conserved.
    Theoretically you could "jump" the ramp. Imagine you pulled off an ollie just before going up where the board is 1 cm away from the ramp during the entire jump. Now imagine 0.1 cm. Now 0.01 cm. On and on until it looks like your riding up the ramp normally, but none of your weight actually ever pushed it. This would mean the ramp would not slow you down at all. You would literally have the same speed at the bottom of the ramp and after. Obviously you can't pull this off perfectly so some speed would be lost, and you would be limited by how high you can jump as well.
    TL;DR
    So basically, you wanna put more force downward on the board when going down a ramp, and decrease that same force when going up.

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was a good thought exercise 👍

    • @chongsiu7893
      @chongsiu7893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like your explanation.
      Another way to think about this which helped my understanding is that:
      say you are going up a ramp, without any pumping, then all the potential energy that is gained when you reach the top of the ramp must come from your original horizontal kinetic energy, so you have less horizontal kinetic energy at the top, thus you are slower. Whereas if you stand up from a crouching position just before you hit them ramp, then some of the potential energy can come from vertical kinetic energy that you gained when you stood up, and less horizontal kinetic energy needs to be "consumed", thus you maintain more horizontal speed at the top of the ramp.

    • @dead7781
      @dead7781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chongsiu7893 yeah I figured out I was completely wrong about the crouching down while you're going up. You, and just like the guy in the video are correct, you need to start crouched and then as you hit the ramp, you stand up.
      Apparently, this has to do with circles and centrifugal forces. It's related to how an ice skater spins faster when she pulls her arms in while she is spinning.
      If you want to understand it more intuitively, there was a great article that explained it perfectly. I forget where I found it, but google "physics of pumping skateboarding". The author mentions the pandemic, so it was a relatively recent article.

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No you were right to doubt it haha
      The way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

    • @dead7781
      @dead7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raphaelpoitou8609 cool, I'll check it out!

  • @Hotdogwaters
    @Hotdogwaters ปีที่แล้ว

    Tibees, 3brown1blue would be fucking proud. Thank you so much for this

  • @jaysahunter256
    @jaysahunter256 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "We're just gonna ignore friction and air resistance for now" That's how I really knew this guy was legit

  • @ansborromeo7470
    @ansborromeo7470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about for the consecutive humps on the pump track?

  • @riazkhandvk
    @riazkhandvk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Skate Park Set UP.... Can you send the Design plan

  • @RYOkEkEN
    @RYOkEkEN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great vids always

  • @dontblamepeopleblamethegov559
    @dontblamepeopleblamethegov559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh so it's basically "apply upward force to reduce the pressure of your weight on the board so it doesn't slow down".
    Cool, thanks!

  • @kidzbop38isstraightfire92
    @kidzbop38isstraightfire92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand any of this but it's cool regardless

  • @Skinnyriver
    @Skinnyriver หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow just wow

  • @estebanlopez5372
    @estebanlopez5372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos SO MUCH ! Thanks a lot for teaching us

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rock on Esteban!!! 🤘

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @aliem0matic
    @aliem0matic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So that is way I couldn't get the hang of pumping, Thanks!

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @allisonpeet1469
    @allisonpeet1469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video is great!

  • @jayherrick3353
    @jayherrick3353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been searching TH-cam for this exact video

  • @raphaelpoitou8609
    @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Okay so I am pretty sure this explanation is wrong.
    Tl;dr : Pumping is made possible by the conservation of angular momentum, not pushing off of the ground.
    There is a video called "the physics of pumping a longboard" that explains the actual science that makes pumping possible. The video I am mentioning includes a lot of incorect information and isn't clear at all if you have never heard of the subjects used in the video, but the idea is the correct one : by bending down your knees on flat parts which doesn't affect your linear speed and extending them in the angular or curvy parts which reduces the distance between your center of mass and the center of the circle drawn by the angular part of the ramp, you generate speed every time you pass a curvy section.
    I think I might do a video myself to try and explain this concept in-depth while keeping it simple so everyone can understand it with everything I have learned about it in the past week I have spent researching the matter.

    • @gradies
      @gradies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was incorrect?

    • @AdrianQuark
      @AdrianQuark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First consider the transition from flat ground to uphill. It should be obvious that if you push down on the board on flat ground, this will not make it to forward at all. Putting a hill in front of you doesn't change that. The force arrows in the video which show a force going up the hill also show a force going away from the hill, which cancels out in the forward direction as you expect. The only way to push the board forward up the hill is to push at an angle, i.e. lean back and push away from you. This will push the board forward, but obviously you would fall off. You can apply the same analysis when you're going downhill; we can ignore gravity to look only at the force you can add yourself. If you push parallel to the ground you're not adding any forward force, because you are pushing the board backward exactly as much as the ground pushes you forward. But if you push straight up, as the video diagram shows, then you're pushing the board away from you and you'll fall back. In the same spirit of experimentation shown in the video, find a long, fairly consistent incline, and push multiple times as you roll down (but before you begin to level out). If pushing works just by pushing off the incline, you should be able to gain more speed each time you stand up. But I'll bet $100 that you'll go no faster than rolling.

    • @AdrianQuark
      @AdrianQuark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I realized Garrett was probably asking what's incorrect about the other video mentioned. It makes sense to me, and makes one easily testable prediction: you can't pump a transition with a smaller radius than your center of gravity. So let's get a tall person to pump some 3' radius transitions.

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdrianQuark I'll start by answering your second comment because I'm struggling to understand the first one rn. So coming from someone who has built his own mini-ramp, a 3 foot radius transition would be ridiculously small, since a 3 foot high transition (what I have built myself) required something close to 8 ft of radius if I recall correctly. and anyway, yes it is indeed harder to pump in a 3 ft mini ramp than on a 9 ft bowl, because you have less time to extend and bend your legs.

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gradies Hey! First of all thanks a lot for making your video and giving me the keys to understand how pumping works! Well the main things I was able to point out were you said at some point that the center of mass was geting closer to the "radius of curvature" instead of center of curvature, so basically the opposite, you said that the angular momentum had to stay constant, which was correct, but then you said it had to stay equal to zero, which was obviously wrong when you're in the middle of the curved transition, since you have positive speed, mass and radius, so it's constant, but not null.
      Also the reason why I'm saying your video is not very clear is because you didn't developp and simplify the equation from L = Iw to L = mrv. Apart from those things, great video and great explanation!

  • @NALOvs
    @NALOvs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion (which...is just an opinion xD i'm no physics student etc) the crouching part does help as long as you do a sort of 'little jump' just before entering the downhill part of the transition.
    I try to explain my self better: the higher the transition is, more speed you gain. So if you raise yourself by pushing with the legs towards the floor (while still standing with the feet on the board, not like an actual hippie jump) just before you hit the downhill, you DO increase your potential energy, thus increasing the resulting kinetic energy (because you fall from an higher point). Then, with the proper timing, adding the crouching just after you hit the downhill will increase the drop/fall even further and give you more speed.
    This is valid only if you are already moving towards the downhill transistion...I don't think it work if you try staying still on the top of it and dropping in (like in the experiment with the timers in the video).
    Dunno, just an opinion :D does it make sense to anyone?

    • @OMNIPHEAST
      @OMNIPHEAST 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It helps also. Like, going down a bank, you'll go faster if you sort of acid drop from the flat to the bank. This way, a portion of your weight is not applied to the downward vector until you already have cleared some of the bank. This way you lose less momentum to friction.
      Then, pump out of the bottom, take advantage of both.

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @margorwylm
    @margorwylm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much! This helped me a lot with my pumping strategies

  • @NicholasABerk
    @NicholasABerk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you explain why learning to pump taught me to Ollie over curbs?

  • @alphainfinitum3445
    @alphainfinitum3445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    he has explained it using proper physics.

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @bryanzen300
    @bryanzen300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was a great video

  • @HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH
    @HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH ปีที่แล้ว

    1. This isnt pumping, this is vertical pumping, fraction of pumping. 2. Pumping works by playing with weight versus centrifugal forces. To visualise - hold two skateboards vertically against each other, and match their top wheels and slightly push so there is contact. One skateboard will visualise road. Pumping is using own weight to push rotating(!) wheels slightly sideways. This causes friction, which will attempt to escape, and since the wheels are rotating, they are less resistent in that direction, so the push force will escape into that direction. The movement and principle is also used on swimming boards.

  • @mthjsful
    @mthjsful หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi @Never Stop Improving, I often see videos about pupming a longboard on flat surfaces. Does that really give speed, or there is some slight descent on the road in these videos? If it can give you momentum, how does it work where there is no curves like on the pumptrack or ramps on the video?

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahh yes, that is a different kind of pumping, and yes they can generate speed on flat with that (even up an incline). In that case, they are turning their board to the side slightly and using the fact that the wheels only roll in one direction (thus allowing them to leverage the friction between the wheels and the riding surface) to push off a little each time and slowly increase their speed.

    • @mthjsful
      @mthjsful หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NeverStopImprovingSB Appreciate your answer, now I understand it. Thanks a lot !

  • @over40texasskater817
    @over40texasskater817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back!

  • @noideaforaname6301
    @noideaforaname6301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can ypu explain the pumping technic on flat streets? (Getting faster by doing sharp turns )

    • @KaiOwensDrums
      @KaiOwensDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not certain, but I believe it is a similar principle, you are using the turn of your board and the friction it creates to push off against slightly sideways which also contributes to the speed in the direction your board is traveling, pretty much the same idea as pumping in a bowl, but relying entirely on friction

    • @KaiOwensDrums
      @KaiOwensDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the force could be applied through pushing horizontally or dropping your weight on to one side of the board causing the board to turn sharply. This is definitely just assuming though

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @jstoppa
    @jstoppa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great explanation! thanks

    • @NeverStopImprovingSB
      @NeverStopImprovingSB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're Welcome!

    • @raphaelpoitou8609
      @raphaelpoitou8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, the way it actually works is not as shown in this video but really by shortening the distance between your center of mass and the center of curvature of the curved part of the ramp :)
      I will try to make a video myself to illustrate exactly how this works more clearly but this guy called Garrett Milliron made a video called "The physics of pumping a longboard" which shows the correct explanation in, unfortunately, a less understandable manner.

  • @michaelculhane3058
    @michaelculhane3058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you pushing straight down at the earth? Or straight towards the wall? Hard to tell where your force is.

  • @tyizzle80
    @tyizzle80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's crazy is I thought it was impossible to gain speed by pumping then as I started riding I notice that I just started to do it on my own. You can't tell when you are doing it right because you Wheels and Board makes a different type of sound as you pump along.

  • @jasonnacionales6745
    @jasonnacionales6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HOLY CRAP HE UPLOADED

  • @kennybraverman9719
    @kennybraverman9719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think what you said is right but you are leaving out centripetal force The way a ballet dancer spins faster. By compressing you increase your acceleration and by decompressing at the wrong time you loose that acceleration. I could be wrong but I think this plays a big part in increasing speed.

  • @SacTimonWild
    @SacTimonWild 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gr8t video!

  • @VividSkateboarding
    @VividSkateboarding 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So awesome!