Basics of Longboard Pumping - How to Pump (LDP)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Learning to pump, AKA Long Distance Pumping or LDP, is crazy because you're trying to learn some magic thing based on people explaining sensations, I hope this more technical vid helps get you on the right track!
Currently using a pantheon ember, and supersonic (which can do split angle or zero rear!) as my main demo boards in this video. Thing to note is you CAN pump any board but especially for beginners, a more efficient well setup board will help you get the hang of it much easier, so make some friends if you can and test their setups out to get a feel for it!
0:00 Intro
0:39 Lesson Begins
1:08 How Does it Work?
3:10 How to Pump Any Setup Intro
3:29 Power Pumping/Rotating
4:20 Wiggling
5:26 Directional Setups (hybrid of the last two)
6:01 Recap / Pros and Cons
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It seems like I've watched every pumping tutorial on youtube - this is the one I will be sharing with any of my friends who want to know more about pumping. Great job covering this with just the right amount of technical detail. Amazing footage and editing as well!
Wow, thanks! Ha that's high praise really appreciate it.
WOW. Longboarders are on another level regarding their tech and knowledge of geometry in gear. Great explanation for a regular skater!
Because they’re nerds and outsiders. Not skateboarders
@@jlo2o199lol sure bud.
I've never owned a "pumping" board but I first learned it in the late '70s on a homemade longboard with Indy 151s and Red Krypyonics. I got much better at it when I picked up skating again in the late '90s and actually got into the slalom scene. These days I don't skate anymore (i'm 60 with an artificial hip) but the last time I did skate was on a 35" giant slalom board with super adjustable precision GOG trucks, set up for pumping on smooth flat ground. Something like 65/15 degrees. I used to regularly ride over half a mile at a time without putting a foot down until my mid 50s!
Great tutorial, you should add a second part where you talk about wheels and bushing to be associated with the three types of setup🔝🔝
This video is awesome! Thank you for the detailed explanations.
You’d make such a a great science teacher
That might be my favorite compliment I've gotten! Haha thanks!
@@BlueridgeLongboardProject Yw. People who can explain things that simply have a good handle on the subject matter. A couple of times I’ve had a bad teacher it had more to do with their grasp of the concepts and inability to explain them.
The best explanation and demonstration of the 3 principal forms of skateboard pumping made. Thank you Adam.
I’ve tried explaining it many times, but this was the best explanation. I like how once you learn this, you can do it in so many ways that skating is just playing. Pumping on a penny is maybe the most fun.
a comment i totally agree with
What a nice video! Thank you so much for the clear examples and analogies
Never having really tried pumping or tried learning how to, I watched your video, went down to a nearby carpark and managed to nearly do a full lap only pushing about 3-4 times per-side (rectangular space), then pumping away. I guess everyone is right and this is an excellent instructional video!
During the practise sesh I also found sometimes the pumping action actually slowed me down, so that must be me "throwing my wieght" at a discordant timing. Still very new to this (2 months in as a complete novice) and so so much fine tuning on everything to be done :), I still get nerves every night, but thats how you know its somthing actually worth doing and has truly addictive potential as a hobby.
Great work Adam!!
GREAT explanation! Well done! 😎👍
Excellent articulation-thank you
Amazing video bro !
Great explanation!
The best way for me to describe it is like jumping forward and backward without actually jumping. Just aggressively throwing yourself side to side
With dude,😮 this is the best pumping tutorial video I've ever seen.👏🏾 lyk bra
Good effort Adam :) Keep it coming :)
great tutorial ! +1 sub !
your setup is sooo low! and turny! i just got a comet cruiser and im loving the crazy wiggly turny-ness that is somehow still stable😎
Man thank you so much, very helpful. Saw you're ride a Trip, what setup do use like truck width and wheels and stuff?
I recognize that Uhaul store, just down the path from Trek.
Greetings ! I have been watching your videos since the one you released about your Ultraskate record, and have been intrigued by this sport ever since. After watching countless other videos of people just cruising so effortlessly on their board, I finally decided to pull the trigger recently and bought my first LDP (probably completely overkill for a noob like me.) I got the Pantheon Supersonic , mostly because I think it is a beautiful looking piece of work (Looks even better irl when u see the details such as the dark green moss tone of the wood, the cool Jupiter planet that is made into sections to ). I have been ESK8 for the past year and first stepping foot onto the Supersonic was completely different, there is zero wheel resistance, and it moves as soon as I touch it, vs the ESK8 with the weight and belt résistance, so I am still trying to get used to the smoothness of the rolling.
As a complete beginner here are the things I found to be challenging for me:
1-Pushing. I've seen the technique most LDP use where they lift their pushing leg up high ,then let it drop down (like an axe motion). For me when I tried that, I felt very unstable being only on 1 foot plus the board being so smooth. So I have kinda been practicing just standing on one-leg while on the board in my room. I hope that will help somewhat eventually. For now I just push what is natural for me even though it is not as efficient a technique as the pros.
2-Foot brake- I watched a few videos on foot braking and it seemed easy enough to learn, but in practice it can be quite daunting because I feel like when I put my foot down to brake , it is going to grab the ground and twist my ankle or throw me way off balance, so I gotta slowly work on that.
3- Finding an area that is best suited for learning, I live around hills and small inclines, so the worst for learning for me. It's so hard to tell in the videos if the riders are going down a slight incline and thats how they are able to maintain the speeds at long distances or if it is more or less flat. I will have to find a nice flat route to practice all this stuff on.
This is my beginning journey into experiencing riding a board in a completely new style and wanted to thank you for your knowledge , passion, and dedication to this sport. It is inspiring to see someone truly chase their dreams and in a way suffer for it (living out of a van, low-paying job). Wish you the best in all do, cheers!
That's awesome! Yes the pushing and foot braking can always improve! I've been doing it for years and I'm still trying to push my boundaries pushing off balance with one leg! But that's also what makes it so much fun even on a normally boring bike trail I guess! Hills the same thing, haha.
In terms of pumping, I guess something to keep in mind is it's best on flat roads or slight declines. Eric palmer pumped around 250 miles around the Miami speedway at a decent clip! So it's super feasible to be as efficient as pushing, or more! But for beginners you might find the best gains on slight declines, you can turn a 7 mph slight declines into a 18 mph experience with not a ton of effort pumping! Meanwhile pushing at 18 mph is borderline sketchy for some, or quite hard!
I just started longboarding a few months ago, and I've found that learning to balance on one foot helps a lot, but also always pay close attention to and memorize proper foot placement. Off by just a fraction, and you'll turn, lose balance, etc. Often you'll have to readjust foot placement while pushing, especially in corners, or on crowned roads.
Braking can be tricky. I haven't learned to foot drag or power slide. I foot stomp, basically pushing in reverse. It saves your shoes, too. However, your speed is limited with this technique because it's risky at higher speeds.
My main rule is to always control my speed and not go faster than I can run in case I have to bail. Don't be afraid to bail, but catch your board. It's the fastest way to stop.
Going down steeper hills, I just basically "walk" my board down. Balance on one foot and step/brake with the other foot. Always control your speed.
Aside from braking down steep hills, sometimes it's faster, less risky, and more efficient just to carry the board down.
Good luck
Love it
banger video
been longboarding since 2010 and always wondered this. also FYI you can still slide big split angle board just dont do a 180
11/10 dog for an 11/10 video
would you be able to try all these styles with a speed/acceleration app and compare their numbers over a 2 mile run? and then perhaps try to compare the perceived effort you put into each.
What's your setup with the orange wheels? Looks sick.
how is this channel only 900 subs??
Wow, Adam this is an awesome video. I'm new to longboarding in general, just got a supersonic and have been trying to digest everything I can while learning how to ride my board. What trucks are you running in your directional setup with the supersonic? I currently have the 150mm paris 50 degree in the front and 43 degree 150mm in the back. The rear truck is currently de-wedged to about 12 degrees. I just ordered a DT Bhanger for the front, so I'm excited to slap that on and see the difference. I really like pumping but I want to be able to pump at low speeds and high speeds.
On my 7 ply I was running stock 40 degree bear 130mm. I like the 55-25 split you get with them! And I really don't mind the stock bushings surprisingly as a person who likes a looser setup.
The bhanger might have a bit of a funny fit on a supersonic since the tkps are further out and lower, although I adjust a bit for Rojas doing a redrill and riser that had the same axle placement difference (relative to rkp trucks).
I thought I was hallucinating when I accelerated from snaking arround because something in my brain told me I just broke laws of thermodynamics and that's impossible 😅 good someone explained why this wizardry works, but when the trucks get loose enough and you are hellbent on keeping balance you will figure it out eventually 😅
When I was first learning to longboard, I would try to carve and slow down but would accidentally pump and speed up
Lol the dog wanted to play so much 😢
What general angle is the back end for a directional pumper?
Love the explaination! Helps me a lot to better understanding my new found hobby. Anyway got any tips for pushing mongo better? I always find it hard where to place my rear foot. Just a little bit to the left or right feels like I’m falling.
I find putting weight on my heel and then pivoting around my heel can quickly let me adjust my forefoot's center, once you swap to your non-dominant support leg. Also finding a good register! It takes some extra time but I jam my foot into the exact point of arch of my other foot that's center of balance, when I need it to be perfect.
@@BlueridgeLongboardProject so you first put your weight to your heel and then pivot around it? Interesting because I always put my forefoot down first and then pivot around it. I got to try this. Thanks!
I'm interested in doing a directional setup - the middle ground. I see that you are using what looks like a Pantheon Supersonic? What front and rear setups are you running with it for the "middle ground" directional setup that you mention? Thanks!
I really wanna try Long distance pumping. Considering the pantheon supersonic. Will you consider on a tutorial about skogging or pushing switch?tnx!
That’s a video that I need to watch asap. 👍
Can you powerslide on them?
Great video! One thing I always wonder is why a short wheelbase pumping setup like a slalom setup is not used for distance pumping. Turns too quick? Like to hear your thoughts on it.
I didn't mention that for simplicity sake but that's a good point, essentially the shorter wheelbase you have the more high frequency the pumping is. Great for slalom, but the longer wheelbase stuff with some flex lets you lean into it more and do slower more powerful pumps.
@@BlueridgeLongboardProject can confirm - I had a mini pumper with slalom truck angles. You can pump straight up a hill but it really feels like you're stuck in first gear after a while. I've wondered if a negative angle on the rear truck could simulate a longer deck but haven't tried it.
I’m Dutch so our cities are very skateable. I have several boards with different set ups to pump however I want etc. I just enjoy my penny nickel for pumping so much. And with 75mm wheels you still go ok speed
Can I powerslide on them?
🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
What setup ist the top Mount Board?
I was running a 55 25 split on a random truck I had lying around on a pantheon genesis and also wiggler. Randal's on the genesis. Not the best! 55/25 is my go to split angle in the topmount. I would recommend a Bennett and bear 130mm 40* dewedge using a 15* riser if you're trying to experiment with topmount pumping on the cheap.
What Altras are those?
This is such a good and important video! There really isn't enough good pumping information out there. I'd like to add this video from pavedwave: th-cam.com/video/wXuSEtX8OiY/w-d-xo.html God I wish I had seen that earlier, it's crazy to me that the jiggle test is barely mentioned anywhere. It's what made all the difference for me!
That's an awesome resource! Technical aspects of LDP setups are really interesting, there's so much there and still so much to be learned.
Pumping is much less efficient than pushing. If the goal is to go as far as possible expending the least amount of energy, pumping is not a good strategy. Pumping is fun but a less efficient way to propel a skateboard in general.
Yeah,essentially,pumping is only really viable on cruiser boards,I have the magneto bamboo cruiser,and that thing don’t turn if you don’t want it to,do this would actually have a negative effect on me more than a positive
Fun is the point. Well, that, and an alternative conditioning workout for those of us who can't get excited about running all the time and would rather have a surfy feeling.
Pushing doesn't feel very good.
If you want the most efficient way to go far on a longboard, get one with electric motors.🙂
@@barrydworak Skateboards are definitely fun, but in commuting and LDP efficiency is important. I also stated that my comment applied to people looking for efficiency, so if fun is your primary goal, my comment wouldn't apply to you.
Pushing not feeling good is subjective. I enjoy pushing and it feels great to me. I've tried pump only LDP and do not like it at all. What feels best to me is a mix of pumping and pushing. It's nice to have a break from pumping when going long distances.
Not everyone likes or wants an eskate. I've tried them and it ruins the riding experience and flow for me.
If you want to just pump pump pump nonstop, and that's fun for you, with fun being your only objective, then go for it. Nothing wrong with that, skating is about doing it however you want. Some of us like pushing also, and pushing adds increased efficiency over pumping alone, and is adding it creates a more diverse full body workout than only pumping.
@@nateross14 tactical pushing is even required for surfskating, sure.
That all makes sense.
That said, if you CAN just pump, then you know you have mastered the technique and can choose when to apply it. If someone can't really do it, they don't have a full toolkit. 🙂
I get the feeling you spent an hour typing that sht out and thought everyone else in this thread cared as much as you did.
And negative rear truck, but can not turn..
That's one for the advanced course haha
If u r referring to a reversed rear truck like a RKP, it can still turn but with a much wider arc. Imo it generates forward speed much easier as both the front n rear turns the same direction. Technically, u have both trucks pumping instead of one
IDK, you showed an example of A then just stated what B was over and over. This was not too helpful to me. Don't worry Adam, no one cares what I think!
The best thing to do is stop longboarding. Narrow trucks on a smaller board is way more intense