My theory: "Shion's semblance being the strings and dream walking being a universal thing that all nightmare hunters can do" was already formed as I originally watched the episode and is posted in it's raw form under your review of the episode. My theory is basically exactly the same as the one in this video, though I was thinking it's done with a unique and difficult type of aura manipulation where the hunter weaves the auras' of the victim and the helpers together in order for the helpers to enter the mind of the victim. It being done with aura would make more sense if the nightmare grimm have existed before Atlas' huge technology improvements, and if it really is done with aura then it would make the helpers really entering the dreams more believable, as part of their soul would literally be transferred into the victim. Either way, since nightmare grimm can only be fought by entering a person's mind, entering the dream can't be semblance specific, because there most certainly is and has been other nightmare hunters besides Shion so they can't be the only one to have the ability to do it.
Theory: dream walking is a aura technique in the same category as using aura to heal, protect and unlock other auras. The technique works similar to how pyra unlocks John's aura. By forming a connection between two individuals. Using this connection shion is able to enter dreams.
the nightmare grimm was said to eat ur aura, and jaunne didnt have a fully developed aura, im guessing "sleepwalking" is aura related, not electrical consciousness related, idk if theyre doing the maidens again, but if they are, i remember in the show how they transferred maidens had to do with aura, and that ability was linked with consciousness to a degree (cause when penny died there was like a conscious space she gave winter the power). this makes MORE sense considering that shion wouldnt be able to fight every single nightmare grimm on remnant, and "sleepwalking" is just aura related, but very specialized where itd be hard for a common huntsman
my theory: Shion's Semblance can be used to manipulate a person's mind, by manipulating the mental strings that weave a person's mind. This entire situation is arranged to change weiss to be more fanus friendly, as Shion is secretly a fanus
Another thing take account about Semblances, that they also develop and change through either pass of time, usage or emotional level from the user. Since Shion is high-level Huntman, it wouldn't surprising for their Semblance to evolve. Another thing to take account is that Shion uses Voodoo magic, those dolls of Phyrra, Ren and Nora aren't only for show, they used are to create an connection between them and Shion - point A (the real world) to point B (the nightmare world). And maybe is a way to protect the hosts, and pulling them from the dream if the situation if gets too dangerous to deal.
This is interesting, and there is a way that this would still work with the Dream Walker semblance. Cinder's semblance has the additional ability of controlling the things her semblance created and I highly doubt that it's the maiden powers since she used it in v1~3 before she had the full maiden abilities. So if Shion's semblance is dream walking through some sort of contact it would stand to reason that they can manipulate the chords through semblance if it's a contact based semblance. It would mean we have to make either the assumption that chord is wrapped around the weapon, and during the session with Jaune they have it physically contacting them. There's also the possibility to they have an evolved semblance. There is also another possibility (and one that helps explain why we haven't run into a nightmare hunter before) and that could be that the wire is built from the same technology that brought Penny and the aura transfer machines, and thus it's really expensive stuff, but allows the user to control the wire as if they have telekinesis if they have really good aura control. I'm guessing the difference between Glynda's telekinesis and Cinder's is that Glynda's doesn't have the limiting factor in needing to have previously done something to it, and it apparently has no weight limit either. As for why they didn't show any effort in using it during the session with Jaune he is a pro level huntsman, and at least not to my memory have that level of huntsman shown to have struggled against a Grimm.
Hmmm interesting ideas you have here. Cinder's semblance, Scorching Caress, is the ability to super heat things that she touches. In Volumes 1-3 Cinder had dust woven into her clothes that she used for throwing fireballs and she also used her semblance on the dust to superheat it into glass. There is no telekinetic ability associated with Cinder's semblance at all unless there's something I missed? As for an evolved semblance, I'm afraid that doesn't quite fit either. The main example of an evolved semblance we have seen in RWBY thus far is Ren's semblance. He initially had the ability to mask emotions and in V8 his semblance evolved to have the tangential ability to be able to sense emotions as well. This is a very logical evolution of Ren's semblance given the fact that both abilities are directly related to one another dealing with emotions and Ren has always been a 'sensory' type huntsman, very skilled at using his aura to sense things nearby. He did so when Tyrian was coming after Team RNJR in V4, so really the emotion sensing is something he's kinda had for a while and it was just fully realized in V8. Shion's abilities though, are inherently unrelated to one another. String manipulation and Dream Walking are completely unrelated, there would be no logical way for one ability to evolve to include the other in a single semblance. Not to mention the inclusion of the Telephone lol The technology idea is a possibility, though if such a technology existed to be able to give people essentially a "pseudo semblance" by telekinetically manipulating objects by use of Aura, then the Atlas military would be all over it. The Ace Ops at the very least as there would be literally no downside to having such a weapon. But we didn't see anything like that in Volume 7-8 when Atlas, so I think just having the wires be something Shion manipulates with their Semblance makes the most sense with everything we know right now. And the last point you mentioned, it's not so much that Shion would be struggling against the Grimm, moreso that if Dream Walking was Shion's semblance, they would be having to use their semblance and drain their aura the entire time they are helping Ren, Nora & Pyrrha enter Jaune's dream. I would think that it'd be at least slightly draining but also as you pointed out, Shion is a Pro so with a weaker Nightmare, they probably didn't need to use much effort. We'll see for certain with Weiss' Nightmare though. Apologies for the rant/ramble, I've put so much thought into Aura and Semblances over the years that I get carried away sometimes 😅
@@PhoenixNight it's okay! I like theorizing too so used to that stuff. As far as aura wiring goes as both a weapon and a tool I feel like it depends on the actual user and usage, just like how using an axe when you need a Hammer is a bad idea. If Shion's semblance is the contact based dream walking then this would be an optimal use of aura reactive wires. They're able to effectively connect everyone to both themselves, the phone and target. But I also think one thing that CRWBY has always been good at doing is taking into account a character's physique and personality into what weapons they choose. Yang is probably the best example, she's a charge in and hit it hard kind of fighter so aura controlled wires would definitely hinder her as they're precision instruments. I wouldn't be surprised if Shion themselves based on both looks and personality is closer fighting wise to Weiss relying on precision to end battle.
The Weird part is Cinder's Semblance is even said to be a Dust based ability And I don't mean Element Dust I mean Dirt....... Literal CINDERS I think we don't know everything about how each Semblance actually works It's all kind of vague As the only Semblance we know the Mechanics is Ruby's Petal Burst
@@shelbybayer200 Cinders semblance has never been a Dust based ability, elemental or otherwise. As I mentioned in my previous comment, Scorching Caress is the ability to superheat objects. She can use it to superheat Dust and turn it into glass but it does not rely on Dust in any way. We actually have an official description of Cinder's semblance from the RWBY info book released by Rooster Teeth themselves that clarifies exactly what you are talking about: 'The world of RWBY the Official Companion'. On page 114 it describes Scorchng Caress as follows: "Cinders semblance allows her to not only superheat objects, but also manipulate their shape. For instance she might use this power to heat sand into glass, and then hurl the glass shards as piercing darts" Most semblances are not vague and are pretty clearly defined. That is why Shion's abilities stand out so much, and why we can use many semblances in the RWBY series as a comparison for analysis.
That is an awesome explanation and dissection of all the skills and abilities we've seen Shion use. I think your logic makes perfect sense - if the dreamweaving skill is required to combat the Nightmares, then it would have to be something that more than the one-in-however-many with a certain semblance could could. So the techniques of dreamweaving and how to use the associated technology are learned skills, but Shion's semblance simply made them more naturally inclined toward this specialized field, which is pretty much how real-world specializations work. Regarding the dolls of the people in the dream (I think this idea has been mentioned before), maybe they serve as a sort of aura healthbar for the people sharing the dream. As you mentioned, the dreamwalking seems to link the auras of the people entering the dream to the mind of the Nightmare's victim. So while Shion's aura wouldn't be draining from setting the whole thing up, the auras of the people entering the dream would be draining. While the Nightmare infecting Jaune wasn't powerful enough to pose any real threat to _NPR, a more powerful Nightmare could very well drain the would-be dream rescuers to the point that one or more of them would need to be pulled out of the dream. The dolls could serve as an indicator if/when the aura of someone inside the dream is at a dangerously low level. If the dolls do serve this or any other purpose, I'm sure we'll see it when R_BY have to enter Weiss' Nightmare. You'd figure the dolls were included for a reason beyond just looking cool and voodoo-y.
My opinion of Shion They are probably a Magic user ? Or probably just have Evolved their Semblance But, yeah..... I'm very certain their Semblance is used just like how you say ---------------- My new OC has a Psychic type Semblance It allows him to Psychically change Reality by his Logical Reasoning for up to around 3 Seconds. My OC's learned use of his Semblance is a Reflection based ability but he can only Reflect something he Knows about. He has to actively Know about something, but things that are harder to Reflect would instantaneously break his Aura
If you need to know Yes, my OC's Semblance is based off Accelerator from the TOARU franchise of series In fact my new OC happens to be based off the following ideas - Accelerator (Of course) - Zero from the MegaMan Zero games - Wake Archus aka God's Gift from the game Conception 2 children of the 7 stars - With hints of Izanagi from Japanese mythology
I think this actually sounds like the best theory so far. The only thing really left hanging is how Shion actually enters and/or transfers people into dreams and I believe something specific was mentioned before they may lead to that answer. The seed. Shion collected the seed and who's to say seeds of Nightmare grim don't have something to do with how hunters can enter dreams when Nightmare are literally made to kill hunters through their dreams. That seed absorbs aura from a host and aura can be added to a weapon to boost it, as can dust so maybe that seed is formed not only from the grim itself but the aura it claimed from Jaune and/or others during the process. Meaning that if studied properly you could possibly use those seeds in a similar way as dust/aura and boost a weapon, in this case threads, in order to interact with dreams and/or the mind. When in boils down to it even if they succeeded in mostly getting rid of Nightmare grim they could have potential to dip into someone's mind, say a criminal for example. This could lead to people desiring this capability and they keep it mostly a secret and why their may be only a few hunters like Shion that work directly for Ozpin. Could lead to all sorts of implications.
Awesome theory video, got a bit of my own theory about the dolls Shion uses. They could be a precaution measure in case the nightmare Grimm attacks the people who are trying to help the infected.
Some things I've to add: If Shion's semblence is requiered to neutralise the nightmare, than you would have to wonder, how humanity (and likely faunus too, because the nightmare feeds off aura, although we haven't yet seen a faunus host of the nightmare) has survived so long: A hypothetical army of nightmares could decend upon a continent, island, region or city and put everyone there to sleep, thus causing the society collapse, similar to what happened to the farm because of the apathys. There would be no way to stop such an invasion, if there are not enough people with semblences similar to Shion's one, who could also respond in time. This brings neatly along to my second point: Everyone, even someone without huntsmen training or experience, could technically kill all grimm they encounter (and that we have also seen in V1-V8), assuming they have the right weapon: Everyone can throw a spear or shoot a gun towards a grimm and they may kill that grimm, unless its armour protects it. However, if a semblence is requiered to kill a grimm, that would stop everyone from being able to do just that. I also have some questions: Could the nightmare "grow" and spread nightmare-seeds? Recapping V1-V8, we've only seen Salem modifying grimm and grimm walking out of the pool of darkness; there must be a reason for the nightmare-seed. The nightmare is also the first grimm inspired by plants; we've seen some based off whales, elephants, gorillas, bears, snakes, scorpions, various birds, dragons, horses with riders and wolves and of course the seer and geist. Why is it the (so far) only grimm based on a plant?
I like to imagine the knit dolls have to do with when they mention only people close to the possessed victim can entire their dreams. Perhaps the images of those dolls is viewed by the victim's subconscious and if they're recognised as close friends then it acts as a key to safety infiltrating the dream scape.
I was quite confused when I first saw Shion because they wear feminine clothes but I believe they were referred to with male pronouns in the Japanese dub.
@@Dark_Boba-chan When I went to the RWBY wiki to learn about Shion before the show aired, it said Shion was referred to with male pronouns. After I learned that Shion was confirmed to be non-binary, I thought the wiki meant that people referred to Shion with male pronouns when the Japanese was translated more literally instead of simplified for the subtitles. When you translate a sentence from one language to another, it's not going to be a direct translation. As far as I know, Japanese doesn't have a word to refer to someone that is non-binary, so maybe that is why they referred to Shion as male before. TL;DR I got it from the RWBY wiki before the show aired.
Regarding the Dolls that appear above the individuals, it could be a safety mechanisim fo rShion. its possible if a persons state reaches a certain point (Aura perhaps?) , a individual could become lost and trapped within the hosts dreamworld, possibly being unable to be pulled out, so it could be that those dolls are their for Shion to know how the individual is doing and if they reach a certain aura level or state, the dolls break and forcibly pull the person from the dreamworld before the worst happens. maybe we will see that with Weiss's nightmare, shes going be formidable and may even beat 1 or 2 of her teammates and thus need them to be pulled out.
This explaination does fit cannon RWBY the most at this point and I hope it's something like this once we get more of an explaination. I do hope we get some more details on Shion as the story unfolds. But having more then just 1 nightmare hunter would be a good thing to have. As for Semblances I'd believe it if Shion's is string manipulation and can use the electric dust to circuit the brains and nerve system, to get an connection toward the feeding grimm's host. As for other semblances they indeed evolve all the time, it usually sticks to one theme though. Ren has both masking emotions and detecting emotions now. Ruby went from simple speed increase to petal burst, where she rips up her own mass to molecular level. Offcourse Weiss went from simple glyphs to parkour on any surface, to being able to summon on these glyphs.
Shion felt very Japanese to me and I really didn’t understand them and their semblance until I looked at it through the lens of Shinto and Japanese legend. I get a feeling that the anime is going to treat Grimm a lot more like yokai than the original did.
The String manipulation that's all I'm going for because I think Zaiden got the dream walking from Ozpin's magic 10:43 👀 are windows to the Soul and Auras are part of the Soul
The Dream Walking ability being a technique rather than a semblance makes sense. My guess is that since Jaune's Nightmare was reduced to a seed instead of actually destroyed, maybe Shion uses these reduced Nightmares as material for the cord that connects people with Dream Walking. Before this, I had two other theories: 1). Shion's semblance is related to connecting or adapting networks. Shion could adapt the string to a neural network, both connecting it to peoples' minds and the phone for dream walking, and controlling it like a limb. 2). Maybe Shion has more than one semblance like Blackbeard from One Piece. So far, the series ran a similar scene when Blake explained that her book was about two souls fighting for control over one body. Maybe Shion's natural semblance is Dream Walking, but while using it on someone with an advanced stage Nightmare, maybe they considered the patient too far gone and could only absorb their consciousness, turning Shion's body into a sort of life raft. Perhaps the process would give Shion's body the ability to process multiple semblances to the point of what it is today. The problem with comparing Shion's semblance to others like Adam and Glynda is that we're just assuming that in terms of complexity, Adam and Glynda's semblances are the gold standard in their field because that's just who we know.
I think Shion has the semblance of being the Remnant version of an Esper, and they mainly use it to control the string (that looks like it might be made of or use gravity dust) Using their semblance + the ritual pattern of the dreamcatcher (and potentially gravity or some other dust) they enhance their semblance to connect the minds of those touching the string. So the dreamwalking is an enhanced application of their semblance, only available by using the string ritual that could theoretically work for anybody (the ritual might be similar to the Schnee glyphs, except they had to learn the pattern themselves since it's not a natural part of their semblance) (I keep saying gravity dust because it might be able to "pull" their minds together or something, plus it could help move the string easier) As for the dreamwalking not consuming Shion's aura, i don't think Weiss's summons consume her aura to stick around after they're summoned which supports the theory that the abilities are related
This is just because Weiss semblance doesn't only alter momentum, it also does time dilations, and summon. But it is something that RT forgot about, since the fight against the paladin in volume 2. They could have use more of the time manipulation power on Weiss semblance.
Shion's abilities could be an advanced semblance. For example we've seen Blake have slightly movable clones now. So could shion's semblance could be 'dream weaver' the strings specifically aren't physical but are shion's aura itself in physical manifestation to allow the shift. The weapon is a dream catcher, so based on the books we have seen aura and semblances used to manipulate and amplify other auras but merging them. Shion could be weaving their dream catchers strings and the strings allow bonded people to walk into the nightmare.
I have a theory that shion's semblance might possibly be somewhat similar to Raven's semblance in the main show, Not only is Shion able to transport people between dimensions (i.e Dream dimension and the waking dimension) but also able to thoroughly communicate between these dimension using some form of manipulation which is somewhat similar to Raven's who is able to cross these dimensions with one mere swing of her sword.
Given how Blake’s ribbon was moving in the 1st episode I doubt the string manipulation is anything but a stylistic choice rather than an in world explainable
I thought Shion's abilities was a combination of semblance and magic. I can see controlling string/wire as a semblance, and the lighting dust being used as a power source. I still think there is some wiggle room for magic because Shion made dream catcher like patterns could be glyphs and a focus point for their magic as well as the dolls. Shion is so far the only Nightmare Hunter seen which means Nightmare Hunters could be just as rare as the Silver-eyed Warriors.
I think this explanation makes total sense. But speaking about semblances, did not Ren display in V8 something that could be considered as a new distinct feature of his semblance ? Before V8, Ren's semblance was essentially masking people's emotion. In V8, he was starting to read/see emotions. Yes both features are linked to emotions so it wouldn't be as separate as with Shion. But in my eyes, they are distinct. The electricity answered one of my two remaining questions about Shion, the one about the telephone. Just how could communication be possible ? But with electricity flowing, it makes sense. I would guess the dream intruders only have to be willing to communicate and electricity just combines with their aura (as it did to bring them into the dream) and goes to the phone. Pretty cool if you ask me ! As for the dolls, maybe they are the equivalent to the mass of any electric circuit ? Any overflow of electricity could go through these dolls instead of going into (and potentially hurting) the bodies.
Well considering the Nightmare is a Grimm built to feed on aura and we know aura does not effect Grimm in the traditional sense. As stated in the Fall books that aura is absorbed into Grimm like a void. Then the components of the nightmare are not like normal Grimm. It feeds on aura by creating a Matrix style dream world to drive emotional states and cause aura to be pushed out like a semblance for the sake of draining an individual faster. So Shion is likely creating a closed circuit while helping the consciousness dream walk. Else the Nightmare could link and spread trapping those within. The semblance in question may not be wire manipulation then but current control. Manipulating the wire so finely from the current she spreads through it.
The part I’m wondering about is that Shion said that the ones entering the afflicted person’s mind had to be connected to them otherwise the mind will reject them
I personally think that Shion is either based on Merlin or sleeping beauty since both characters are associated with dreams. Sleeping beauty with her sleeping for a hundred years and Merlin being an incubus/human hybrid and has been known to enter Arthur's dreams to tutor him during childhood. I'm leaning towards the Merlin theory. But we'll know until RT confirms their inspiration
if Shion's semblance is dream walking then just add more tech to their weapon take into account Penny's weapon she controls her multitude of swords with wire yes she is an android but all the teach to control that might be in Shion's weapon that is a bit of a stretch but anime
I do believe there's Dust in the string, it is very well known that you can weave dust into clothing, making the string have dust in it gives it strength enough that it won't break under intense pressure like how Shion is manipulating it, regular string can't handle a current of electricity, unlike wire, but I think wire is too fragile and too cumbersome for them to do what they need as precisely as Shion is doing. Also if it is proven that their semblance is this dream walking, we do know people can manipulate objects with their Aura alone, hunters coat their weapons in it to help with durability, and we've see Ren attack with his aura in volume 1. I do believe that someone who specializes in hunting one specific Grimm, they can achieve so much control over their aura at it looks like magic. But that is, as said, a hand wavy explanation. People seem to forget that Aura isn't just a shield or fuel for your superpowers, it can be a weapon as well. But I enjoy this video and I'm in agreement with the Guild Master. This whole nightmare thing reminds me of a video game, dragon age origins, where in a quest a child is possessed by a demon, and the quickest way to kill the demon was to kill the child, a really barbaric an evil thing, in some eyes, to do. The other method was to recruit a bunch of mages and allow you or one of your companions to go into the dream world and kill the demon in there, sparing the child's life. wouldn't be surprised before Shion's method was discovered, the only way to kill the Nightmare Grimm was to kill The host
Well we have seen Ren use his Semblance to both mask emotions his and others and now he can even READ emotions, his and others. So having two uses for a semblance isn't really new.
While I do think you're right, that Shion's Semblance is in fact telekinetic (I doubt it only works on strings/wires though), I don't think I'd break canon if their Semblence would allow to manipulate Strings and Dreamwalking. Let's have a look at Ren. His Semblence is to mask negative emotions, but once evolved he can also see the color of the emotional state. And as a reminder: Ren is just the first person we specifically know about an evolved Semblance. In his case, the evolution was able to extend the abilities of his original Semblance. Someone else with the same Semblance (or just in another world) the evolution could very much be the manipulation of the emotional state. Same goes for Shion. Their Semblance could very much be a telekinetic one with an evolution, that allows to combine / connect various things (like minds, wires, ...). Addition: I think you don't give that doll's enough attention. I think they play a big role in the dreamwalking-ability.
Dreams are innately magical, in any form of media. Dreams can take you to other realms, or let you see the past, or lead you into the hearts of others. The way I see it, the dreamwalking has nothing to do with the string at all, but merely Shion told JNPR they COULD do it, and their strings helped facilitate it faster. I don't think what was significant were the strings at all, it's the SHAPES of the string. Dreamcatchers work to catch nightmares and let only the good dreams trickle into your sleep (in theory). So it makes sense that, ALL Shion is doing is making a GIANT dreamcatcher using their semblance. The phone, the dolls, etc are all just CONDUITS. Dolls help anchor them to the dream, making it easier to dreamwalk, the phone is just a personal choice thing, or perhaps it's a little modified to "listen in" on the dream, as them talking INTO the dream is easy, hell it's something you can do IRL right now. Ever wake up because something SLAMMED shut in your dream, only to realize it was a car door outside? Ever heard your mother's voice telling you "C'mon, lazy git, you've got to do chores" and despite being FULLY asleep at the time, you know the things she told you to do while you were asleep? Shion's just talking, the phone is for listening.
I hope that Shion can get Ruby, Blake and Yang into Weiss's dream, and help her take out the grimm within said dream, so they can imprison it in that jar.
Given how.. prehensile Blake's weapon is shone being, moving almost like a tail, I don't believe for a second that the dream catcher is anything but the gravity dust and aura manipulation. Note that gravity dust is purple by default, same as the threads. It's not even the trippiest not most magical thing we've seen Dust do. I'm still not sure what the hell Glynda was doing in episode one but it isn't explainable by any of the traditional RWBY means.
I thought about it more And I think the bigger the Dream Catcher that they need to use more Aura to Control more of the String/Cord/wires And as for how the String holds up the people without much needed to tie too to work is a specialized use of Dust It's not just ordinary string, as regular string wouldn't glow in a Light purple color It's obvious that it's special string A combination of two at that The outer layer of the "cords" is laced with Gravity dust while the inside of the "cords" are Lightning dust Or Maybe it's not string at all that we are seeing but Aura threads that Shion's Semblance throws out Another nod to Sleeping Beauty and the Spindle What does a Spindle use ? String So, Shion's Semblance is............................ DREAM SPINDLE They can create threads made of their Aura and the Threads that are in their staff are just for show Dream Spindle also works as an explanation of why it can be used to transfer Souls into dreams. As for why it doesn't put strain on Shion........ Well, maybe they don't need to use much Aura to create the Dream Catcher pattern unless sending Multiple people into a dream ? As in, Weiss' dream
Unfortunately that makes it more complicated. We already know the string in Shion's weapon is not just for show. Shion used the string in their weapon to snare the Nightmare when it escaped from Jaune and we see that Shion has extra spools of String in their carrying case. The string is certainly physical. And even if Shion was creating the string from their aura, it is still two separate and distinct abilities, String creation and Dream Walking. They are not inherently related. Sun and Vine both create physical objects with their aura but they don't have any extra abilities to go with that, it's just the physical objects and Vine is an Ace Op, he would have just as much training as Shion but still his semblance was only the Vines. Shion's semblance having both of these abilities as a semblance would still break canon
@@PhoenixNight Yeah, that definitely makes things weird from what Rooster teeth staff says it as *Canon Adjacent* Too, which makes Shion's Semblance like a HUGE retcon of things actually work Even the part of how a Grimm can effect Aura would be a Retconned thing as well. It's confusing Though there is something I think of that could fix all this Shion is *NOT* originally from Remnant They're from another World (We already know other Worlds/Dimensions exist in RWBY thanks to the end of vol 8)
Yup I mention that in the video as well. It was what I thought was the only explanation for Shions abilities until I saw the comment that gave a different explanation. Magic might still be the real answer though
Wait…wait wait wait. If Shion’s Semblance uses that string to connect the minds and Aura of others so they can enter someone’s mind to stop the Nightmare…what if…what if that’s something the Nightmare can do as well? Use Shion’s semblance against them, to infect the others that are trying to save their teammate by multiplying?
It's a good explanation, but I feel that I must disagree: I feel that Shion's semblance is dreamwalking, and the fact that they can manipulate string/wires is either a gift from Ozpin to facilitate this or technological. I could see how Shion would just gave to arrange the string/wire by hand prior to that, and having the string do the complex weave by itself just makes it easier. The string is acting like an aura conduit to channel Shion's semblance. I also feel that the string is infused with gravity dust to make it almost weightless, and so easy to manipulate with just aura. As for why this wasn't present elsewhere, well, I would assume that the string is pretty thin, light, and slow moving to make it very usable in general combat situations. Also, it seems to take a great deal of concentration to do the fine manipulations that the weaving of the dreamcatcher requires. Sure, we could have gravity dust infused nets for non-lethal capturing of targets, and having those open and close by themselves would not cause anyone to have any doubts about them fitting the canon. As for Shion being the only one able to save people IN THIS WAY from a nightmare once it's infested their body? Semblances are not unique, though the individual capabilities might change, the general concept of the semblance can appear multiple times (See Telekinesis as an example you cited already). This would make those with dreamwalking semblances vital to protect people from nightmare grimm, and that is perfectly congruent with canon too. What about those infested with nightmare grimm when there's no dreamwalker near? Simple, they die, either to the grimm itself, to probably at the hands of their loved ones to prevent them from being a focal point of the spread. Remnant is a grim (pun very intended) place, where life is hard, and (horrific) death is easy.
I just realized something that might just be the case of how Shion's Semblance works My Theory: The staff and Thread are merely Conduits for their Semblance, when we first saw their Tool kit rewatching I noticed a key detail. The Thread that Shion is currently using glows a faint pinkish-purple color, maybe that is Shion's Aura glowing on the threads. While the new Spools of Thread don't glow The Threads in the Dream Catcher on the Staff are constantly glowing meaning they might be getting a constant flow of Aura. The Threads are "drawn" into a Net for Dream diving, they still glow. This could mean the reason it puts such a strain on Shion is because the Aura in use in the Dream Catcher on the staff isn't getting a full constant flow of Aura so it's siphoning more directly from the main source of Shion's Aura. It's possible that Shion has mastered the art of channeling Aura into objects to utilize a skill with Aura that we haven't seen before until this anime. We know that Semblances are used by Channeling Aura to do a specific specialized ability. So, could I possibly have figured out something that Roosterteeth didn't fully explain ?
Unfortunately, this has been the issue since the very beginning when we first saw Shions semblance, which I've mentioned in videos before. The threads glowing has always led myself and other to think 1 of two things, that the thread is either Gravity dust or its due to Shions Aura. Gravity dust alone would not allow for such precision to be able to weave a huge dream catcher, so it had to be aura, hence why I've always said Shions semblance seems to have 2 abilities. Shion has to be Channeling their aura through the thread, that's the only way anyone in the show has ever been able to move an object without doing it by hand but it has never been done with aura alone, it has always been semblance that allows this. If moving objects with precision is something that anyone could do with just their aura through training then semblances like Neptune's and at the most extreme extent, even Glynda's become redundant. This is why it's been such an issue from the start, Shion is moving the threads with their aura but that *has* to be from semblance, meaning their semblance has two different abilities: string manipulation and dream walking. To logically explain it, it has to be either magic or just the fact that it's a non-canon semblance, it should not simply be an aura technique due to the conflicts listed above.
@@PhoenixNight I'm specifically saying they channel Aura through their Staff mainly The Spools of Thread in the tool box are nothing but a Visual Red Herring The Staff is what's channeling the Aura not the thread The Spools of Thread are all different colors from the "Threads" that are glowing There for, The glowing threads can't be a Physical object but Solidified Aura It only looks like it is pick up stuff because that part of the Semblance is Illusionary We might be able to see it that way but, for all we know. In universe Shion is just Drawing the Pattern What we see and what is actually happening might be two different things
@shelbybayer200 The threads absolutely pick things up, its no illusion. Not only have we seen the threads lift the members of Team RWBY and Jaune but they were also used to capture the Nightmare Grimm. Not to mention, the threads remain in both Shions staff and in the massive dream catcher while Shion is asleep. So if the threads are completely conjured from aura and/or they are illusions, then Shion is keeping those physical manifestations of aura active for far longer than anyone has ever come close to doing in the show. And yes the staff is also being channeled with aura. Every huntsman/huntress uses their weapon as an aura conduit but the issue is the thread creation/manipulation AND the dream walking being included together in one person's abilities. The ability you just described with the threads is a semblance in and of itself, and then so is the dream walking ability. Ultimately there isn't an explanation that encompasses Shions abilities unless we say that they are far beyond what anyone else is capable of in the entire RWBY series. It's just a non-canon semblance.
@@PhoenixNight That's also something weird, Remember how Shion mentioned to "Ration the coins" If it's not an Illusion, at least it's possible it's similar to Qrow's semblance it's always active but the use of the coins which are also part of Shion's Aura abilities Drains Shion's Aura more than the Dream Catcher lines do. So, maybe there is a Technique that Shion uses that rations Aura ? Still, as you said it is a Non-Canon Semblance. But, Rooster Teeth themselves kept advertising that it was Canon Adjacent So at the very least, the Semblance is intended to be a type of ability that was stylized the way we saw it for the anime only ? It's still pretty confusing with how it was advertised Adjacent being "Attached to" Which means by Roosterteeth themselves they consider what Ice Queendom has Canon content The way it's "Shown" doesn't matter The Story in it's own right is "Canon" by the Company that created RWBY We can chalk the way Shion's Semblance works to be "Creative liberty" by the Animation team that animated the Anime.
I still think the ability to send people into one's dreams sounds more like a semblance than the string manipulation, also you saying that Shion didn't look tired is obviously because of how strong they are and they obviously wouldn't show that they're tired
maybe the string is like a "cable" that connects the minds of the people and shinon's semblance is dreamwalking but can only do it with a "catalyst" that is the string and that gives them(Shinon) the oppertunity to take people with him/use their(shinon) semblance on others.
Gravity dust. Yes it is possible if u had been practicing and very dedicated.. easy conclusion the semblance is glyphs, GLYPHS ARE HER SEMBLANCE. A FAMILY SEMBLANCE. Glyphs are a gate way to enter dreams. Gravity dust is used to manipulate the string. Yes with years of practic and dedication it is very possible been past down generation to generation. Very rare semblance. Thats why she and her family stood out to ozpin
It's different by 100 % of it's additional information It's Canon Adjacent My Theory for what it means: It's a different Telling of events with events that could've happened "Off-screen" in the normal show
Viewer Gender Confusion trope: Shion looks and dresses very effeminately, and their gender isn't revealed in the first few episodes they appear in. Furthering the confusion is that the Japanese promotional materials label Shion as male while Rooster Teeth TV, ■who it is worth noting do not have complete authority over the show and by extension Shion's character■, consider Shion to be non-binary.
They are thieves who are trying to use Ice Queendom to put their false agenda onto other people, which definitely isn't fair on the people (Shaft) who made it.
Phoenix/Knight, have you ever considered that Shion it just very well-versed in use of the dreamcatcher as a weapon, the same way Clover was with his fishing pole? Shion IS a special hunter trained for a SPECIFIC TYPE OF GRIMM, so is it so odd that Shion would therefore have special training and equipment to help with that job? Also, no offense to you or anyone else, but I feel the sheer need to point this out: the damn pronouns was just RT trying to score "politically correction" points. The Japanese dub (aka the ORIGINAL version of the show) give Shion male pronouns. So why not just use those? Rooster Teeth wanted to look "progressive", is all. Lot of companies are trying to do that, these days.....and none of it ends well.
My theory on shion's semblance is that is neuron manipulation. What about the threads are neurons, neurons able to be reforced by aura, and neurons able to form synopsis to another people. For that Shion, need to put the mandala on the ground, a web of neurons able to wired the brains of the participants creatinga bigger brain, whit the conciousness of multiple people. The point is the nex Shion, need to have direct or close contact whit the neurons, or at least be close to the person whit she is using his semblance in order to make his semblance alter neurons. In order to cure other people Shion need close people to the afflicted, so she can use that connection to wired them up
My theory: "Shion's semblance being the strings and dream walking being a universal thing that all nightmare hunters can do" was already formed as I originally watched the episode and is posted in it's raw form under your review of the episode.
My theory is basically exactly the same as the one in this video, though I was thinking it's done with a unique and difficult type of aura manipulation where the hunter weaves the auras' of the victim and the helpers together in order for the helpers to enter the mind of the victim. It being done with aura would make more sense if the nightmare grimm have existed before Atlas' huge technology improvements, and if it really is done with aura then it would make the helpers really entering the dreams more believable, as part of their soul would literally be transferred into the victim. Either way, since nightmare grimm can only be fought by entering a person's mind, entering the dream can't be semblance specific, because there most certainly is and has been other nightmare hunters besides Shion so they can't be the only one to have the ability to do it.
Theory: dream walking is a aura technique in the same category as using aura to heal, protect and unlock other auras.
The technique works similar to how pyra unlocks John's aura.
By forming a connection between two individuals. Using this connection shion is able to enter dreams.
That sounds right actually
Shion must need to use their Semblance to create the Dream Catcher than have Aura flow through
the nightmare grimm was said to eat ur aura, and jaunne didnt have a fully developed aura, im guessing "sleepwalking" is aura related, not electrical consciousness related, idk if theyre doing the maidens again, but if they are, i remember in the show how they transferred maidens had to do with aura, and that ability was linked with consciousness to a degree (cause when penny died there was like a conscious space she gave winter the power). this makes MORE sense considering that shion wouldnt be able to fight every single nightmare grimm on remnant, and "sleepwalking" is just aura related, but very specialized where itd be hard for a common huntsman
fk u mentioned this 2 minutes in the video after i posted this comment.
my theory: Shion's Semblance can be used to manipulate a person's mind, by manipulating the mental strings that weave a person's mind. This entire situation is arranged to change weiss to be more fanus friendly, as Shion is secretly a fanus
That doesn't explain how they could move the string from their weapon with such accuracy.
Not a Faunus
I always wondered how Shion had such an interesting weapon that could trap nightmares and was confused by what his semblance was
Another thing take account about Semblances, that they also develop and change through either pass of time, usage or emotional level from the user. Since Shion is high-level Huntman, it wouldn't surprising for their Semblance to evolve.
Another thing to take account is that Shion uses Voodoo magic, those dolls of Phyrra, Ren and Nora aren't only for show, they used are to create an connection between them and Shion - point A (the real world) to point B (the nightmare world). And maybe is a way to protect the hosts, and pulling them from the dream if the situation if gets too dangerous to deal.
This is interesting, and there is a way that this would still work with the Dream Walker semblance.
Cinder's semblance has the additional ability of controlling the things her semblance created and I highly doubt that it's the maiden powers since she used it in v1~3 before she had the full maiden abilities.
So if Shion's semblance is dream walking through some sort of contact it would stand to reason that they can manipulate the chords through semblance if it's a contact based semblance. It would mean we have to make either the assumption that chord is wrapped around the weapon, and during the session with Jaune they have it physically contacting them.
There's also the possibility to they have an evolved semblance.
There is also another possibility (and one that helps explain why we haven't run into a nightmare hunter before) and that could be that the wire is built from the same technology that brought Penny and the aura transfer machines, and thus it's really expensive stuff, but allows the user to control the wire as if they have telekinesis if they have really good aura control.
I'm guessing the difference between Glynda's telekinesis and Cinder's is that Glynda's doesn't have the limiting factor in needing to have previously done something to it, and it apparently has no weight limit either.
As for why they didn't show any effort in using it during the session with Jaune he is a pro level huntsman, and at least not to my memory have that level of huntsman shown to have struggled against a Grimm.
Hmmm interesting ideas you have here.
Cinder's semblance, Scorching Caress, is the ability to super heat things that she touches. In Volumes 1-3 Cinder had dust woven into her clothes that she used for throwing fireballs and she also used her semblance on the dust to superheat it into glass. There is no telekinetic ability associated with Cinder's semblance at all unless there's something I missed?
As for an evolved semblance, I'm afraid that doesn't quite fit either. The main example of an evolved semblance we have seen in RWBY thus far is Ren's semblance. He initially had the ability to mask emotions and in V8 his semblance evolved to have the tangential ability to be able to sense emotions as well. This is a very logical evolution of Ren's semblance given the fact that both abilities are directly related to one another dealing with emotions and Ren has always been a 'sensory' type huntsman, very skilled at using his aura to sense things nearby. He did so when Tyrian was coming after Team RNJR in V4, so really the emotion sensing is something he's kinda had for a while and it was just fully realized in V8.
Shion's abilities though, are inherently unrelated to one another. String manipulation and Dream Walking are completely unrelated, there would be no logical way for one ability to evolve to include the other in a single semblance. Not to mention the inclusion of the Telephone lol
The technology idea is a possibility, though if such a technology existed to be able to give people essentially a "pseudo semblance" by telekinetically manipulating objects by use of Aura, then the Atlas military would be all over it. The Ace Ops at the very least as there would be literally no downside to having such a weapon. But we didn't see anything like that in Volume 7-8 when Atlas, so I think just having the wires be something Shion manipulates with their Semblance makes the most sense with everything we know right now.
And the last point you mentioned, it's not so much that Shion would be struggling against the Grimm, moreso that if Dream Walking was Shion's semblance, they would be having to use their semblance and drain their aura the entire time they are helping Ren, Nora & Pyrrha enter Jaune's dream. I would think that it'd be at least slightly draining but also as you pointed out, Shion is a Pro so with a weaker Nightmare, they probably didn't need to use much effort. We'll see for certain with Weiss' Nightmare though.
Apologies for the rant/ramble, I've put so much thought into Aura and Semblances over the years that I get carried away sometimes 😅
@@PhoenixNight it's okay! I like theorizing too so used to that stuff.
As far as aura wiring goes as both a weapon and a tool I feel like it depends on the actual user and usage, just like how using an axe when you need a Hammer is a bad idea.
If Shion's semblance is the contact based dream walking then this would be an optimal use of aura reactive wires. They're able to effectively connect everyone to both themselves, the phone and target.
But I also think one thing that CRWBY has always been good at doing is taking into account a character's physique and personality into what weapons they choose. Yang is probably the best example, she's a charge in and hit it hard kind of fighter so aura controlled wires would definitely hinder her as they're precision instruments.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shion themselves based on both looks and personality is closer fighting wise to Weiss relying on precision to end battle.
The Weird part is
Cinder's Semblance is even said to be a Dust based ability
And I don't mean Element Dust
I mean Dirt....... Literal CINDERS
I think we don't know everything about how each Semblance actually works
It's all kind of vague
As the only Semblance we know the Mechanics is
Ruby's Petal Burst
@@shelbybayer200 Cinders semblance has never been a Dust based ability, elemental or otherwise. As I mentioned in my previous comment, Scorching Caress is the ability to superheat objects. She can use it to superheat Dust and turn it into glass but it does not rely on Dust in any way.
We actually have an official description of Cinder's semblance from the RWBY info book released by Rooster Teeth themselves that clarifies exactly what you are talking about: 'The world of RWBY the Official Companion'. On page 114 it describes Scorchng Caress as follows: "Cinders semblance allows her to not only superheat objects, but also manipulate their shape. For instance she might use this power to heat sand into glass, and then hurl the glass shards as piercing darts"
Most semblances are not vague and are pretty clearly defined. That is why Shion's abilities stand out so much, and why we can use many semblances in the RWBY series as a comparison for analysis.
That is an awesome explanation and dissection of all the skills and abilities we've seen Shion use. I think your logic makes perfect sense - if the dreamweaving skill is required to combat the Nightmares, then it would have to be something that more than the one-in-however-many with a certain semblance could could. So the techniques of dreamweaving and how to use the associated technology are learned skills, but Shion's semblance simply made them more naturally inclined toward this specialized field, which is pretty much how real-world specializations work.
Regarding the dolls of the people in the dream (I think this idea has been mentioned before), maybe they serve as a sort of aura healthbar for the people sharing the dream. As you mentioned, the dreamwalking seems to link the auras of the people entering the dream to the mind of the Nightmare's victim. So while Shion's aura wouldn't be draining from setting the whole thing up, the auras of the people entering the dream would be draining. While the Nightmare infecting Jaune wasn't powerful enough to pose any real threat to _NPR, a more powerful Nightmare could very well drain the would-be dream rescuers to the point that one or more of them would need to be pulled out of the dream. The dolls could serve as an indicator if/when the aura of someone inside the dream is at a dangerously low level.
If the dolls do serve this or any other purpose, I'm sure we'll see it when R_BY have to enter Weiss' Nightmare. You'd figure the dolls were included for a reason beyond just looking cool and voodoo-y.
My opinion of Shion
They are probably a Magic user ?
Or probably just have Evolved their Semblance
But, yeah..... I'm very certain their Semblance is used just like how you say
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My new OC has a Psychic type Semblance
It allows him to Psychically change Reality by his Logical Reasoning for up to around 3 Seconds.
My OC's learned use of his Semblance is a Reflection based ability but he can only Reflect something he Knows about.
He has to actively Know about something, but things that are harder to Reflect would instantaneously break his Aura
If you need to know
Yes, my OC's Semblance is based off Accelerator from the TOARU franchise of series
In fact my new OC happens to be based off the following ideas
- Accelerator (Of course)
- Zero from the MegaMan Zero games
- Wake Archus aka God's Gift from the game Conception 2 children of the 7 stars
- With hints of Izanagi from Japanese mythology
I think this actually sounds like the best theory so far. The only thing really left hanging is how Shion actually enters and/or transfers people into dreams and I believe something specific was mentioned before they may lead to that answer. The seed. Shion collected the seed and who's to say seeds of Nightmare grim don't have something to do with how hunters can enter dreams when Nightmare are literally made to kill hunters through their dreams. That seed absorbs aura from a host and aura can be added to a weapon to boost it, as can dust so maybe that seed is formed not only from the grim itself but the aura it claimed from Jaune and/or others during the process. Meaning that if studied properly you could possibly use those seeds in a similar way as dust/aura and boost a weapon, in this case threads, in order to interact with dreams and/or the mind.
When in boils down to it even if they succeeded in mostly getting rid of Nightmare grim they could have potential to dip into someone's mind, say a criminal for example. This could lead to people desiring this capability and they keep it mostly a secret and why their may be only a few hunters like Shion that work directly for Ozpin. Could lead to all sorts of implications.
Awesome theory video, got a bit of my own theory about the dolls Shion uses. They could be a precaution measure in case the nightmare Grimm attacks the people who are trying to help the infected.
Some things I've to add:
If Shion's semblence is requiered to neutralise the nightmare, than you would have to wonder, how humanity (and likely faunus too, because the nightmare feeds off aura, although we haven't yet seen a faunus host of the nightmare) has survived so long: A hypothetical army of nightmares could decend upon a continent, island, region or city and put everyone there to sleep, thus causing the society collapse, similar to what happened to the farm because of the apathys. There would be no way to stop such an invasion, if there are not enough people with semblences similar to Shion's one, who could also respond in time.
This brings neatly along to my second point: Everyone, even someone without huntsmen training or experience, could technically kill all grimm they encounter (and that we have also seen in V1-V8), assuming they have the right weapon: Everyone can throw a spear or shoot a gun towards a grimm and they may kill that grimm, unless its armour protects it. However, if a semblence is requiered to kill a grimm, that would stop everyone from being able to do just that.
I also have some questions:
Could the nightmare "grow" and spread nightmare-seeds? Recapping V1-V8, we've only seen Salem modifying grimm and grimm walking out of the pool of darkness; there must be a reason for the nightmare-seed.
The nightmare is also the first grimm inspired by plants; we've seen some based off whales, elephants, gorillas, bears, snakes, scorpions, various birds, dragons, horses with riders and wolves and of course the seer and geist. Why is it the (so far) only grimm based on a plant?
I like to imagine the knit dolls have to do with when they mention only people close to the possessed victim can entire their dreams.
Perhaps the images of those dolls is viewed by the victim's subconscious and if they're recognised as close friends then it acts as a key to safety infiltrating the dream scape.
I was quite confused when I first saw Shion because they wear feminine clothes but I believe they were referred to with male pronouns in the Japanese dub.
I've watched the sub and they're not referred to at all regarding pronouns
@@Dark_Boba-chan When I went to the RWBY wiki to learn about Shion before the show aired, it said Shion was referred to with male pronouns. After I learned that Shion was confirmed to be non-binary, I thought the wiki meant that people referred to Shion with male pronouns when the Japanese was translated more literally instead of simplified for the subtitles. When you translate a sentence from one language to another, it's not going to be a direct translation. As far as I know, Japanese doesn't have a word to refer to someone that is non-binary, so maybe that is why they referred to Shion as male before. TL;DR I got it from the RWBY wiki before the show aired.
Regarding the Dolls that appear above the individuals, it could be a safety mechanisim fo rShion.
its possible if a persons state reaches a certain point (Aura perhaps?) , a individual could become lost and trapped within the hosts dreamworld, possibly being unable to be pulled out,
so it could be that those dolls are their for Shion to know how the individual is doing and if they reach a certain aura level or state, the dolls break and forcibly pull the person from the dreamworld before the worst happens.
maybe we will see that with Weiss's nightmare, shes going be formidable and may even beat 1 or 2 of her teammates and thus need them to be pulled out.
This explaination does fit cannon RWBY the most at this point and I hope it's something like this once we get more of an explaination. I do hope we get some more details on Shion as the story unfolds. But having more then just 1 nightmare hunter would be a good thing to have.
As for Semblances I'd believe it if Shion's is string manipulation and can use the electric dust to circuit the brains and nerve system, to get an connection toward the feeding grimm's host.
As for other semblances they indeed evolve all the time, it usually sticks to one theme though. Ren has both masking emotions and detecting emotions now. Ruby went from simple speed increase to petal burst, where she rips up her own mass to molecular level. Offcourse Weiss went from simple glyphs to parkour on any surface, to being able to summon on these glyphs.
Wonder what their story origins are (fairytale, mythology lore etc)
Shion felt very Japanese to me and I really didn’t understand them and their semblance until I looked at it through the lens of Shinto and Japanese legend. I get a feeling that the anime is going to treat Grimm a lot more like yokai than the original did.
That makes a whole lot of sense actually
The String manipulation that's all I'm going for because I think Zaiden got the dream walking from Ozpin's magic
10:43 👀 are windows to the Soul and Auras are part of the Soul
The string…it’s like a connector. A bridge that can connect minds together…like a Mind Bridge…
The Dream Walking ability being a technique rather than a semblance makes sense. My guess is that since Jaune's Nightmare was reduced to a seed instead of actually destroyed, maybe Shion uses these reduced Nightmares as material for the cord that connects people with Dream Walking.
Before this, I had two other theories:
1). Shion's semblance is related to connecting or adapting networks. Shion could adapt the string to a neural network, both connecting it to peoples' minds and the phone for dream walking, and controlling it like a limb.
2). Maybe Shion has more than one semblance like Blackbeard from One Piece. So far, the series ran a similar scene when Blake explained that her book was about two souls fighting for control over one body. Maybe Shion's natural semblance is Dream Walking, but while using it on someone with an advanced stage Nightmare, maybe they considered the patient too far gone and could only absorb their consciousness, turning Shion's body into a sort of life raft. Perhaps the process would give Shion's body the ability to process multiple semblances to the point of what it is today.
The problem with comparing Shion's semblance to others like Adam and Glynda is that we're just assuming that in terms of complexity, Adam and Glynda's semblances are the gold standard in their field because that's just who we know.
I think Shion has the semblance of being the Remnant version of an Esper, and they mainly use it to control the string (that looks like it might be made of or use gravity dust)
Using their semblance + the ritual pattern of the dreamcatcher (and potentially gravity or some other dust) they enhance their semblance to connect the minds of those touching the string.
So the dreamwalking is an enhanced application of their semblance, only available by using the string ritual that could theoretically work for anybody
(the ritual might be similar to the Schnee glyphs, except they had to learn the pattern themselves since it's not a natural part of their semblance)
(I keep saying gravity dust because it might be able to "pull" their minds together or something, plus it could help move the string easier)
As for the dreamwalking not consuming Shion's aura, i don't think Weiss's summons consume her aura to stick around after they're summoned which supports the theory that the abilities are related
This is just because Weiss semblance doesn't only alter momentum, it also does time dilations, and summon. But it is something that RT forgot about, since the fight against the paladin in volume 2. They could have use more of the time manipulation power on Weiss semblance.
maiden magic? Ozpin magic? I think Salem magic could also be interesting.
Shion's abilities could be an advanced semblance. For example we've seen Blake have slightly movable clones now.
So could shion's semblance could be 'dream weaver' the strings specifically aren't physical but are shion's aura itself in physical manifestation to allow the shift.
The weapon is a dream catcher, so based on the books we have seen aura and semblances used to manipulate and amplify other auras but merging them.
Shion could be weaving their dream catchers strings and the strings allow bonded people to walk into the nightmare.
I wonder if the transmitters that Oz and Ironwood used with Amber Freya Pyrrha and Winter would allow them to enter dreams in the same way?
I have a theory that shion's semblance might possibly be somewhat similar to Raven's semblance in the main show, Not only is Shion able to transport people between dimensions (i.e Dream dimension and the waking dimension) but also able to thoroughly communicate between these dimension using some form of manipulation which is somewhat similar to Raven's who is able to cross these dimensions with one mere swing of her sword.
Given how Blake’s ribbon was moving in the 1st episode I doubt the string manipulation is anything but a stylistic choice rather than an in world explainable
I’m going to enjoy them as the anime moves forward
I thought Shion's abilities was a combination of semblance and magic. I can see controlling string/wire as a semblance, and the lighting dust being used as a power source. I still think there is some wiggle room for magic because Shion made dream catcher like patterns could be glyphs and a focus point for their magic as well as the dolls. Shion is so far the only Nightmare Hunter seen which means Nightmare Hunters could be just as rare as the Silver-eyed Warriors.
The fast cilc
Shion is my new favorite character in this series. I love his new abilities and character design
I think this explanation makes total sense.
But speaking about semblances, did not Ren display in V8 something that could be considered as a new distinct feature of his semblance ?
Before V8, Ren's semblance was essentially masking people's emotion. In V8, he was starting to read/see emotions.
Yes both features are linked to emotions so it wouldn't be as separate as with Shion. But in my eyes, they are distinct.
The electricity answered one of my two remaining questions about Shion, the one about the telephone. Just how could communication be possible ?
But with electricity flowing, it makes sense. I would guess the dream intruders only have to be willing to communicate and electricity just combines with their aura (as it did to bring them into the dream) and goes to the phone. Pretty cool if you ask me !
As for the dolls, maybe they are the equivalent to the mass of any electric circuit ? Any overflow of electricity could go through these dolls instead of going into (and potentially hurting) the bodies.
Well considering the Nightmare is a Grimm built to feed on aura and we know aura does not effect Grimm in the traditional sense. As stated in the Fall books that aura is absorbed into Grimm like a void. Then the components of the nightmare are not like normal Grimm. It feeds on aura by creating a Matrix style dream world to drive emotional states and cause aura to be pushed out like a semblance for the sake of draining an individual faster. So Shion is likely creating a closed circuit while helping the consciousness dream walk. Else the Nightmare could link and spread trapping those within. The semblance in question may not be wire manipulation then but current control. Manipulating the wire so finely from the current she spreads through it.
The part I’m wondering about is that Shion said that the ones entering the afflicted person’s mind had to be connected to them otherwise the mind will reject them
I get the feeling she works for salem
Im curious if Yang Ruby and Blake can even enter Weiss's mind
Jnpr are closer togrther then Rwby is at this point
Epsidoe 2 of wanting recognition of the persona reference that is IQ
Shion is basically "Sleeping Beauty" while she hunts Dreams (Vampires) like "Van Helsing" (Dracula)
I personally think that Shion is either based on Merlin or sleeping beauty since both characters are associated with dreams. Sleeping beauty with her sleeping for a hundred years and Merlin being an incubus/human hybrid and has been known to enter Arthur's dreams to tutor him during childhood. I'm leaning towards the Merlin theory. But we'll know until RT confirms their inspiration
I'm calling Shion a she. voiced by a female VA anyway.
Hm, interesting, honestly this Theory makes just as much sense any other at this point, we’ll just have to wait and see.
Ok that makes a lot more sense now
I suspect Shion's other 3 team mates are dream hunters too going by Osma's comment to them about cooperation with a team granting better reasons
if Shion's semblance is dream walking then just add more tech to their weapon take into account Penny's weapon she controls her multitude of swords with wire yes she is an android but all the teach to control that might be in Shion's weapon that is a bit of a stretch but anime
Can people cast spells in rwby?
what she is using as far as her staff goes, it's called a dreamcatcher
Shion's design kinda reminds me of a scarecrow a little bit. Could he be based off of the scarecrow from the wizard of oz? That's my theory.
I'm betting it's a way to link Aura using that string as a conduit
This whole theory and Scion as a whole gives me major Ai:The Somnium Files Vibes
I do believe there's Dust in the string, it is very well known that you can weave dust into clothing, making the string have dust in it gives it strength enough that it won't break under intense pressure like how Shion is manipulating it, regular string can't handle a current of electricity, unlike wire, but I think wire is too fragile and too cumbersome for them to do what they need as precisely as Shion is doing.
Also if it is proven that their semblance is this dream walking, we do know people can manipulate objects with their Aura alone, hunters coat their weapons in it to help with durability, and we've see Ren attack with his aura in volume 1. I do believe that someone who specializes in hunting one specific Grimm, they can achieve so much control over their aura at it looks like magic. But that is, as said, a hand wavy explanation. People seem to forget that Aura isn't just a shield or fuel for your superpowers, it can be a weapon as well.
But I enjoy this video and I'm in agreement with the Guild Master. This whole nightmare thing reminds me of a video game, dragon age origins, where in a quest a child is possessed by a demon, and the quickest way to kill the demon was to kill the child, a really barbaric an evil thing, in some eyes, to do. The other method was to recruit a bunch of mages and allow you or one of your companions to go into the dream world and kill the demon in there, sparing the child's life. wouldn't be surprised before Shion's method was discovered, the only way to kill the Nightmare Grimm was to kill The host
First time I saw Shion, I thought Female, then I heard people say Male, and now there's confirmation that it is neither.
What a rollercoaster.
Well we have seen Ren use his Semblance to both mask emotions his and others and now he can even READ emotions, his and others. So having two uses for a semblance isn't really new.
4:26 Wiess semblince push and pull are using dust. Gravity dust😂😂 hello the semblance is to summon. Duh summon the energy of dust. Summon creatures
While I do think you're right, that Shion's Semblance is in fact telekinetic (I doubt it only works on strings/wires though), I don't think I'd break canon if their Semblence would allow to manipulate Strings and Dreamwalking.
Let's have a look at Ren. His Semblence is to mask negative emotions, but once evolved he can also see the color of the emotional state. And as a reminder: Ren is just the first person we specifically know about an evolved Semblance.
In his case, the evolution was able to extend the abilities of his original Semblance.
Someone else with the same Semblance (or just in another world) the evolution could very much be the manipulation of the emotional state.
Same goes for Shion. Their Semblance could very much be a telekinetic one with an evolution, that allows to combine / connect various things (like minds, wires, ...).
Addition: I think you don't give that doll's enough attention. I think they play a big role in the dreamwalking-ability.
Dreams are innately magical, in any form of media. Dreams can take you to other realms, or let you see the past, or lead you into the hearts of others. The way I see it, the dreamwalking has nothing to do with the string at all, but merely Shion told JNPR they COULD do it, and their strings helped facilitate it faster. I don't think what was significant were the strings at all, it's the SHAPES of the string. Dreamcatchers work to catch nightmares and let only the good dreams trickle into your sleep (in theory). So it makes sense that, ALL Shion is doing is making a GIANT dreamcatcher using their semblance. The phone, the dolls, etc are all just CONDUITS. Dolls help anchor them to the dream, making it easier to dreamwalk, the phone is just a personal choice thing, or perhaps it's a little modified to "listen in" on the dream, as them talking INTO the dream is easy, hell it's something you can do IRL right now. Ever wake up because something SLAMMED shut in your dream, only to realize it was a car door outside? Ever heard your mother's voice telling you "C'mon, lazy git, you've got to do chores" and despite being FULLY asleep at the time, you know the things she told you to do while you were asleep? Shion's just talking, the phone is for listening.
Alyx became the jackalope
it just me be I believe that shion Semblance is weave which allows them to do anything with string, yarn, and twine.
I hope that Shion can get Ruby, Blake and Yang into Weiss's dream, and help her take out the grimm within said dream, so they can imprison it in that jar.
Given how.. prehensile Blake's weapon is shone being, moving almost like a tail, I don't believe for a second that the dream catcher is anything but the gravity dust and aura manipulation. Note that gravity dust is purple by default, same as the threads. It's not even the trippiest not most magical thing we've seen Dust do. I'm still not sure what the hell Glynda was doing in episode one but it isn't explainable by any of the traditional RWBY means.
I thought about it more
And I think the bigger the Dream Catcher that they need to use more Aura to Control more of the String/Cord/wires
And as for how the String holds up the people without much needed to tie too to work is a specialized use of Dust
It's not just ordinary string, as regular string wouldn't glow in a Light purple color
It's obvious that it's special string
A combination of two at that
The outer layer of the "cords" is laced with Gravity dust while the inside of the "cords" are Lightning dust
Or
Maybe it's not string at all that we are seeing but
Aura threads that Shion's Semblance throws out
Another nod to Sleeping Beauty and the Spindle
What does a Spindle use ?
String
So, Shion's Semblance is............................
DREAM SPINDLE
They can create threads made of their Aura and the Threads that are in their staff are just for show
Dream Spindle also works as an explanation of why it can be used to transfer Souls into dreams.
As for why it doesn't put strain on Shion........ Well, maybe they don't need to use much Aura to create the Dream Catcher pattern unless sending Multiple people into a dream ?
As in, Weiss' dream
Unfortunately that makes it more complicated. We already know the string in Shion's weapon is not just for show. Shion used the string in their weapon to snare the Nightmare when it escaped from Jaune and we see that Shion has extra spools of String in their carrying case. The string is certainly physical.
And even if Shion was creating the string from their aura, it is still two separate and distinct abilities, String creation and Dream Walking. They are not inherently related. Sun and Vine both create physical objects with their aura but they don't have any extra abilities to go with that, it's just the physical objects and Vine is an Ace Op, he would have just as much training as Shion but still his semblance was only the Vines. Shion's semblance having both of these abilities as a semblance would still break canon
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Yeah, that definitely makes things weird from what Rooster teeth staff says it as *Canon Adjacent*
Too, which makes Shion's Semblance like a HUGE retcon of things actually work
Even the part of how a Grimm can effect Aura would be a Retconned thing as well.
It's confusing
Though there is something I think of that could fix all this
Shion is *NOT* originally from Remnant
They're from another World (We already know other Worlds/Dimensions exist in RWBY thanks to the end of vol 8)
So the wire works as a VR headset? lmao
You know his semblance could be magic from Ozpin
Yup I mention that in the video as well. It was what I thought was the only explanation for Shions abilities until I saw the comment that gave a different explanation. Magic might still be the real answer though
Wait…wait wait wait. If Shion’s Semblance uses that string to connect the minds and Aura of others so they can enter someone’s mind to stop the Nightmare…what if…what if that’s something the Nightmare can do as well? Use Shion’s semblance against them, to infect the others that are trying to save their teammate by multiplying?
Honestly I consider it a more complicated version of the Power of Waking
I think Shion’s semblance has to be one of the most broken we’ve seen in the series.
It's a good explanation, but I feel that I must disagree:
I feel that Shion's semblance is dreamwalking, and the fact that they can manipulate string/wires is either a gift from Ozpin to facilitate this or technological. I could see how Shion would just gave to arrange the string/wire by hand prior to that, and having the string do the complex weave by itself just makes it easier. The string is acting like an aura conduit to channel Shion's semblance. I also feel that the string is infused with gravity dust to make it almost weightless, and so easy to manipulate with just aura.
As for why this wasn't present elsewhere, well, I would assume that the string is pretty thin, light, and slow moving to make it very usable in general combat situations. Also, it seems to take a great deal of concentration to do the fine manipulations that the weaving of the dreamcatcher requires. Sure, we could have gravity dust infused nets for non-lethal capturing of targets, and having those open and close by themselves would not cause anyone to have any doubts about them fitting the canon.
As for Shion being the only one able to save people IN THIS WAY from a nightmare once it's infested their body? Semblances are not unique, though the individual capabilities might change, the general concept of the semblance can appear multiple times (See Telekinesis as an example you cited already). This would make those with dreamwalking semblances vital to protect people from nightmare grimm, and that is perfectly congruent with canon too. What about those infested with nightmare grimm when there's no dreamwalker near? Simple, they die, either to the grimm itself, to probably at the hands of their loved ones to prevent them from being a focal point of the spread. Remnant is a grim (pun very intended) place, where life is hard, and (horrific) death is easy.
I just realized something that might just be the case of how Shion's Semblance works
My Theory: The staff and Thread are merely Conduits for their Semblance, when we first saw their Tool kit rewatching I noticed a key detail.
The Thread that Shion is currently using glows a faint pinkish-purple color, maybe that is Shion's Aura glowing on the threads. While the new Spools of Thread don't glow
The Threads in the Dream Catcher on the Staff are constantly glowing meaning they might be getting a constant flow of Aura.
The Threads are "drawn" into a Net for Dream diving, they still glow. This could mean the reason it puts such a strain on Shion is because the Aura in use in the Dream Catcher on the staff isn't getting a full constant flow of Aura so it's siphoning more directly from the main source of Shion's Aura.
It's possible that Shion has mastered the art of channeling Aura into objects to utilize a skill with Aura that we haven't seen before until this anime.
We know that Semblances are used by Channeling Aura to do a specific specialized ability.
So, could I possibly have figured out something that Roosterteeth didn't fully explain ?
Unfortunately, this has been the issue since the very beginning when we first saw Shions semblance, which I've mentioned in videos before.
The threads glowing has always led myself and other to think 1 of two things, that the thread is either Gravity dust or its due to Shions Aura. Gravity dust alone would not allow for such precision to be able to weave a huge dream catcher, so it had to be aura, hence why I've always said Shions semblance seems to have 2 abilities.
Shion has to be Channeling their aura through the thread, that's the only way anyone in the show has ever been able to move an object without doing it by hand but it has never been done with aura alone, it has always been semblance that allows this. If moving objects with precision is something that anyone could do with just their aura through training then semblances like Neptune's and at the most extreme extent, even Glynda's become redundant.
This is why it's been such an issue from the start, Shion is moving the threads with their aura but that *has* to be from semblance, meaning their semblance has two different abilities: string manipulation and dream walking.
To logically explain it, it has to be either magic or just the fact that it's a non-canon semblance, it should not simply be an aura technique due to the conflicts listed above.
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I'm specifically saying they channel Aura through their Staff mainly
The Spools of Thread in the tool box are nothing but a Visual Red Herring
The Staff is what's channeling the Aura not the thread
The Spools of Thread are all different colors from the "Threads" that are glowing
There for, The glowing threads can't be a Physical object but Solidified Aura
It only looks like it is pick up stuff because that part of the Semblance is Illusionary
We might be able to see it that way but, for all we know. In universe Shion is just Drawing the Pattern
What we see and what is actually happening might be two different things
@shelbybayer200 The threads absolutely pick things up, its no illusion. Not only have we seen the threads lift the members of Team RWBY and Jaune but they were also used to capture the Nightmare Grimm.
Not to mention, the threads remain in both Shions staff and in the massive dream catcher while Shion is asleep. So if the threads are completely conjured from aura and/or they are illusions, then Shion is keeping those physical manifestations of aura active for far longer than anyone has ever come close to doing in the show.
And yes the staff is also being channeled with aura. Every huntsman/huntress uses their weapon as an aura conduit but the issue is the thread creation/manipulation AND the dream walking being included together in one person's abilities. The ability you just described with the threads is a semblance in and of itself, and then so is the dream walking ability.
Ultimately there isn't an explanation that encompasses Shions abilities unless we say that they are far beyond what anyone else is capable of in the entire RWBY series. It's just a non-canon semblance.
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That's also something weird, Remember how Shion mentioned to "Ration the coins"
If it's not an Illusion, at least it's possible it's similar to Qrow's semblance it's always active but the use of the coins which are also part of Shion's Aura abilities
Drains Shion's Aura more than the Dream Catcher lines do.
So, maybe there is a Technique that Shion uses that rations Aura ?
Still, as you said it is a Non-Canon Semblance. But, Rooster Teeth themselves kept advertising that it was Canon Adjacent
So at the very least, the Semblance is intended to be a type of ability that was stylized the way we saw it for the anime only ?
It's still pretty confusing with how it was advertised
Adjacent being "Attached to"
Which means by Roosterteeth themselves they consider what Ice Queendom has Canon content
The way it's "Shown" doesn't matter
The Story in it's own right is "Canon" by the Company that created RWBY
We can chalk the way Shion's Semblance works to be "Creative liberty" by the Animation team that animated the Anime.
I still think the ability to send people into one's dreams sounds more like a semblance than the string manipulation, also you saying that Shion didn't look tired is obviously because of how strong they are and they obviously wouldn't show that they're tired
maybe the string is like a "cable" that connects the minds of the people and shinon's semblance is dreamwalking but can only do it with a "catalyst" that is the string and that gives them(Shinon) the oppertunity to take people with him/use their(shinon) semblance on others.
That doesn't work
As Shion controlled the String so intricately
Shion's Semblance CAN'T be the Dream Walking
@@shelbybayer200 well Shion may had years training and perfecting the string technique
I got Summer maiden vibes
Gravity dust. Yes it is possible if u had been practicing and very dedicated.. easy conclusion the semblance is glyphs, GLYPHS ARE HER SEMBLANCE. A FAMILY SEMBLANCE. Glyphs are a gate way to enter dreams. Gravity dust is used to manipulate the string. Yes with years of practic and dedication it is very possible been past down generation to generation. Very rare semblance. Thats why she and her family stood out to ozpin
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Manipulate the strings of fate!
What is ice queendom is it a completely different universe or a reboot of rwby or is it something different that I’m not seeing
It's different by 100 % of it's additional information
It's Canon Adjacent
My Theory for what it means: It's a different Telling of events with events that could've happened
"Off-screen" in the normal show
Wait a minute, Shion's gender is male?
Because I'm watch your video for a while and you describe Shion as 'He'
Viewer Gender Confusion trope: Shion looks and dresses very effeminately, and their gender isn't revealed in the first few episodes they appear in. Furthering the confusion is that the Japanese promotional materials label Shion as male while Rooster Teeth TV, ■who it is worth noting do not have complete authority over the show and by extension Shion's character■, consider Shion to be non-binary.
RT are thieves who are trying to use Ice Queendom to put their false agenda onto other people.
They are thieves who are trying to use Ice Queendom to put their false agenda onto other people, which definitely isn't fair on the people (Shaft) who made it.
I HATE when companies like RT pull that bullshit....what's worse is when people expect the viewers to just mindlessly go along with it.
Big D can lift the Moon. It is canon.
Dream Weaver
Phoenix/Knight, have you ever considered that Shion it just very well-versed in use of the dreamcatcher as a weapon, the same way Clover was with his fishing pole? Shion IS a special hunter trained for a SPECIFIC TYPE OF GRIMM, so is it so odd that Shion would therefore have special training and equipment to help with that job?
Also, no offense to you or anyone else, but
I feel the sheer need to point this out: the damn pronouns was just RT trying to score "politically correction" points. The Japanese dub (aka the ORIGINAL version of the show) give Shion male pronouns. So why not just use those? Rooster Teeth wanted to look "progressive", is all. Lot of companies are trying to do that, these days.....and none of it ends well.
Gravity might, but that is a really long might
like if you are a part of the guild XD
No I will not respect gender-neutral pronouns shut up with that
N-Non Binary.....like me??
My theory on shion's semblance is that is neuron manipulation. What about the threads are neurons, neurons able to be reforced by aura, and neurons able to form synopsis to another people. For that Shion, need to put the mandala on the ground, a web of neurons able to wired the brains of the participants creatinga bigger brain, whit the conciousness of multiple people. The point is the nex Shion, need to have direct or close contact whit the neurons, or at least be close to the person whit she is using his semblance in order to make his semblance alter neurons. In order to cure other people Shion need close people to the afflicted, so she can use that connection to wired them up
I personally believe that a semblence like that would be to overpowered