Cadillac Lyriq Owner’s Review
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- Fully electric crossover SUV assembled in Springhill, TN. It has a 102 kWh battery with 312 miles of range.
The Cadillac Lyriq is a luxury SUV EV option at a lower price point then others from Europe ( BMW & Mercedes ) or a Tesla Mode X.
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Disagree with your comments on one-pedal driving. I test drove a Tesla Model 3 recently. The one-pedal driving is permanently on. If you are coming down a slight hill and lift-off to conserve energy, the car slows down abruptly. My current car is a 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. It has 6-levels of regen braking plus a button to select one-pedal driving. Most the time I drive in B0 regen mode which is coasting. I can increase the level of regen by the use of paddles. If I touch the brake, then mostly it uses regen braking. I can drive much more smoothly using this method.
I drove an Ionic hybrid (not the Bev) B4 electric. I use to luv getting above 60MPH on my 50 minute drive to/from work. Bev is a paradigm shift in thinking. The engine “J break” for lack of a better term, is what is both replenishing the batteries w/ kinetic energy & slowing the vehicle. Masking this by driving in any mode other then one pedal feels counter productive to learning to adapt to the new system. It is the same as a golf cart. The break pedal is there when needed, not for normal operation. At least that is my view.
Thx 4 taking the time to make a comment & 4 watching.
I agree 100% with you. We also have the same Outlander Phev and my wife hates one pedal driving. I don't mind it personally but my daughter finds it very abrupt and it definitely takes a bit more time to master it smoothly. It is good to have options as not everyone is the same.
I originally wanted the CT6 or the CT6 hybrid, but I wanted a higher ceiling such as that in the XTS.
I wanted all the technology of the CT6 - specifically the heated/cooled/massage seats, super cruise and 3D sound.
Waiting, all this time as given me a Cadillac Lyriq Luxury 3 AWD.
It's a GREAT CAR and a knockout effort by Cadillac.
Yes there are some issues such as the poor indexing of USBC thumbdrives (it doesn't see FOLDERS).
The car has very heavy steering and turns heavy into corners or off exits.
Supercruise is amazing and although it can't read stoplights like Teslas can, it's a great driving assistant.
Otherwise: my car is a head turner in Argent Silver with light-grey interior. These are BASE COLORS and they look like $100,000.
I couldn't bring myself to buy a Mercedes or BMW. This is way better.
Great concise informative presentation appreciate it
love love love usa and cadillac and all americans cars
No Apple Carplay and Andriod Auto for long - they are removing it as Mary Barra decided it better you pay for GM software rather than use your one time paid for software from those vendors. Ironically they are building the new GM software using Google software. So buy your Lyriq now if you want those software packages as they won't be around much longer.
Thanks for all the great GM EV content. I’ve been looking forward to seeing Lyriq videos for a while now. I’d like to make the EV leap and find myself ever stuck in the Tesla vs everyone else debate. I rented a Tesla M3 last weekend for the first time and was a little surprised that all the engineering and innovation under the hood didn’t necessarily translate into an amazing in-car experience for me. It brought me back to being a bit more open minded about non-Teslas, especially after Ford and GM made their NACS announcements. Glad I found your channel. Thanks again!
I recommend Tesla for first time EV owners. I agree the driver comfort is subpar, fit & build is often off, and the design style is engineering focused. However, their EV tech is second to none. They precondition prior to arrival at a Supercharger. Superchargers are ubiquitous, reliable, and are the gold standard others could only wish for. To make the change, it is an easy way to live EV for newcomers. Non-Teslas take some effort common among people who have had their teeth cut on EV already.
My Bro-in-law went all ice to two non-Teslas all at once. That to me is a rough row to hoe that can be made easier by going Tesla first
I have a 2023 Lyriq. They precondition before arriving at a fast charger as well. This is the first EV I’ve ever driven, and I recommend because it wasn’t too much of a transition from a gas vehicle. The hardest thing for me was the tech, because I was coming from a low-trim 2016 Nissan Altima.
You can really tell that GM was intentional about ensuring the tech was there without losing that powerful-yet-smooth riding experience Cadillac has been known for for decades.
My only complaint is that it can be a little too technical. I shouldn’t have to turn my car on to open the glove compartment. And the electric doors is cool at first, but when you’re in a rush, can be a little annoying. Also, the headlights don’t always adjust to my surroundings, and on some occasions, very rare, the field of vision can be too short when I’m driving in really dark areas unless I turn the car off and restart it.
Other than that, the experience is bar none, and I’ve ridden in-not driven-Teslas. Highly recommend.
GM uses blended regen and hydraulic brakes, in my opinion the best in the ev world. I’ve noticed I can have the best of both worlds on my Lyriq by using the paddle with one pedal off. I’ve had every GM EV to date and this Lyriq is amazing. I received mine two months back.
Have you done a zero to full charging test on a 350 DC?
No, I would like to someday. A new DCFC company called koulumb have 360 dispensers I could use.
The issue I have is the car is my wife’s, making times to do that evasive
@@BremboT no sir we don’t have one close to me I can use all the time. There is a new 100 at the Cadillac dealership which should be online next week. I’ve never had the car under 20% yet lol
Thanks for the review. I’m watching the Lyriq reviews because I’m interested in the Blazer EV and the Equinox EV and they use the Ultium system. The Lyriq seems like a great car and is getting good reviews, the main problem seems to be GM’s inability to make enough of them. I’m hoping they are learning things that will help them the rest of their EV’s. I like the Silverado EV as well, but it’s going to be a bit to big, thirsty and expensive for me.
Remember too, they have very high demand for their Brightdrop commercial line too which is going to zap lots of batteries. I hear they will have 4 domestic battery plants soon (Warren OH, Springhill TN, Flint MI, & somewhere in Indiana). Until these are all up. EV production will likely be well below demand.
I am looking at the Lyriq reviews too. But it and the Blazer are too big for us. If I was in the market for a vehicle this size, I would choose the Cadillac over the Blazer because they close to the same price. Hopefully the Optiq will be coming out soon.
I drove a new Chevrolet Bolt. After reading reviews of One Pedal Driving I under stood how it worked. While leaving the dealership parking lot I instantly got adjusted to it and loved it.
BUYER BEWARE!!!! We have a 2023 Lyriq (which we paid a premium cash price) and have had it in for repairs more than we have driven it. First thing was the whole right rear taillight assembly went bad. No brake lights, no blinker, etc.. It took them 2 weeks to fix it because the dealership had to order the part and of course, never called when it came in. GM now doesn't supply a loaner car either. They make you rent your own, with only a $60 a day limit which will get you into maybe a Toyota Corolla, or something like that. The wife got it back, drove it for a week and now it's sitting in the garage COMPLETELY DEAD. We got up today to go to an appointment and the doors were locked, the power cord was still plugged in, and it wouldn't do anything. We had to use the key fob on the rear hatch to get in. Had to force the hatch open because there is no power, crawl to the front door to open it. We called to get it towed and they never showed up. They claimed that traffic was bad and they will be here tomorrow. We are now sitting here with no car because the Cadillac Concierge that I spoke to earlier said she would send me an email with all the information I needed to get the $60 a day compact rental car that we have to pay for up front and hopefully get reimbursed, never sent the email. I will have to try and call in the morning and see what kind of a little pee pot they're going to squeeze us into. The Lyriq looks wonderful, but it has WAY too many issues and Cadillac of Portland's service is horrible. We should have stuck with Lexus, or if EV.... TESLA! I think they have most of the bugs out of them. If anyone would like to try their luck on the Lyriq, I have one for you, just as soon as I get it back from the dealership...AGAIN.
4 sure, Tesla has iterated into a high degree of reliability & the Lyriq is in its first model year. You have my condolences for the frustrations & hope you get all you wish to have & this difficult situation fades from memory.
Stay safe.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel Thank you for your kind words. Still love driving the car, but now when we went to pick it up the Service Manager at Cadillac of Portland in Oregon tells me they will no longer service my vehicle. Even though I paid them over $70,000 in CASH they are refusing to work on my vehicle. He claims that I was rude to the employees when I called with another problem. Was I frustrated, YES. Am I a busy person with a lot of tragedies going on in my life right now, ABSOLUTELY. He didn't seem to care. Not sure what ever happened to customer care and the customer is always right. Now I will have to take my vehicle over twice as far to have it serviced. They were really nice when they wanted the sale. Not so much when the car has issues.
@@kimwalker108 I didn’t even know they could do that. Maybe reach out to Cadillac corp. not sure they could do anything since dealers are independent.
Best wishes. Thx for watching. Stay safe.
Thank you for all your reviews they are very informative. Please let me know how long it will take the Lyric, at a 90 kw charging rate to go from 40% to 70%; form 40% to 75%; and from 40% to 80% charge? If I am understanding your Cadillac Lyriq Charging Time chart it looks like a 40% to 70% charge takes approximately 25 minutes; a 40% to 75% charge takes approximately 30 minutes; and, a 40% to 80% charge takes approximately 35 minutes.
The data set has been proven to be reflective of a derated EVgo charging session instead of the behavior of the lyric. I updated the description of the video trying to head off thoughts like this from being conveyed. To answer your question, I just was at a DCFC where I was pulling 125+ past 70%.
However, the SoC is a bit skewed on the Lyriq compared to others due to the large 102 kWh battery. A better comparison would be kW flow. I think it is pretty good, going from 190 kW down to 125 kW at about 80%.
Such a good analogy of the golf cart comparison for one pedal driving. Ive never heard anyone explain it that way and it makes total sense!
Looks like a great car. How much did the dealer add to the MSRP?
You made a mistake when you say that tesla network will e available in the spring of 2023. I think it os 2025
Correct, I mis spoke. Meant to say 2024
I wanted to see under the hood. hopefully someone documents their teardown.
Your tirade on one pedal driving was unneeded and is actually less efficient in highway traffic(in my observation).
Your not alone in your opinion. I shoulda kept my thoughts to myself there. Thx for watching.
Spring of 2023 (?). Or did you mean 2024 re the Tesla charging system?
24. I mis spoke
The charging problem mentioned is mainly due to the unreliability of vendors offering CCS1 charging networks. These include Electrify America, EVGo, Blink, ChargePoint and others. With Ford, GM and Rivian moving to provide the NACS connector in their cars, they will be able to use the Tesla Supercharging network as of mid to late 2025. In the interim, these car makers will provide adapters to allow charging current CCS1 connected models in 2024. With this approach, it is much more attractive to consider non-Tesla EVs such as the Lyriq and the Hyundai / Kia EVs.
Correct. There are some small print items to consider with non-teslas at Supercharger. I refer you you TH-camr News Coulomb’s video titled “The Tesla Supercharger Network Sucks for Other EVs”. Big one is the adapter will derate you to 150 kW, no matter how fast the charger is capable of. I agree with his conclusion that although SC stations will be “open” for non-Teslas, those people will likely end up using it as a last option.
Another reason I bought a Tesla!!
@@johnreese3762 truth. The SC network is the gold standard. Anyone who feels differently is living in a fantasy. I do believe the non-Teslas will have several years of growing pains once the NA sc net is open to them though and it won’t be the silver bullet all are hoping for.
Thx 4 the comment
truth. The SC network is the gold standard. Anyone who feels differently is living in a fantasy. I do believe the non-Teslas will have several years of growing pains once the NA sc net is open to them though and it won’t be the silver bullet all are hoping for.
Thx 4 the comment
Cool to see an actual owner review. I don't own an EV yet, but would wait a few years before considering an EV from the big 3 ice....just too new for them
Volvo makes nice ones. Not gen-1 either.
Great video! Thank you for sharing. This is actually the vehicle I plan to purchase when they introduce the V-series trim.
At 10:50 the button on the steering wheel is to turn on/off the heated steering wheel feature.
Recorded horizontally:)
Great review and agree with a lot of things. I am actually very happy that the GM allowed to turn off OPD and provided a steering paddle to control regeneration. This is brilliant, and every car manufacturer should do this way. Except downhill, I don't like to use OPD, especially on highways. Having the ability to not keep your foot pressing race all the time and still do regeneration is just game changing.
Interested to understand your DCFC pulls from 10-80% and the time it took to do that. You don't show nor talk about the charging pulls at all.
I’m on a road trip in her with my wife cutting a vid. Should be posted soon.
Now please keep the vids coming. I am looking at purchasing around Nov if available-RWD
Around my area of the country GM dealers put their own mark up on cars, Corvette C8 Z06 around $100K, one of the reasons you will never see me in a GM dealership. I love my new Tesla!!
4sure, Tesla has a loyal following for a reason. Solid cars that just work like an iPhone and very little buyers remorse
Thank you for making this video. It is a way to get my Lyriq “fix” while waiting for mine (since my May 29, 2022 order for an Debut Edition - now converted to a white /noir 2024 AWD Luxury 2 which will probably arrive this December 😞).
I considered a Tesla MY, but the ride was questionable, it does not have the space behind the front seats with the rear seats down that I need, the interior seemed austere and I was concerned (justifiably as it has turned out) that Musk was going to drop prices and kill the equity of previous buyers.
Your review covered many of the things I wondered about and that other reviewers have not.
Please do a follow up after you have driven it for a few weeks and let us know any other insights.
My wife’s hip was hurting in the M3LR. Not so in the cadi. Prob solved.
The Lyriq may become a good option once they adopt the NACS charging connector standard.
You're mistaken about the effectiveness and necessity of always-on "one-pedal driving". I'll tell you why.
I have a '19 Niro-EV. AS I drive in Eco mode all the time I was getting around 275-285 miles' range on a full 64kW battery.
I experimented with the behind-wheel-paddles to increase/decrease my automatic regen/slowing of the car, and based my changes on the road incline/decline. Specifically, I made it a habit of coasting whenever forward momentum or a downhill road angle made it possible. Within a couple weeks, my dashboard range-meter started telling me that I had 310-340 miles available from that 64kW. Conclusion: the distance coasting is of greater energy savings than having the car capture energy every time you're on a downhill grade. I still use (from 0-3 steps) Regen at 2-3 when my foot is on the accelerator or I am driving down a steep mountain. In the latter case I use the regen paddles to regulate speed when the downward road angle exceeds 3-4%. I also use paddles-only to stop the car at traffic lights and such. My 46-mi daily round trip sees me using the foot brake pedal just once or twice a trip.
thx for your insight. I appreciate it. I think I will try the way you describe to see if I can max mile better that way.
One thing about Cadillac owners. They are not austere folk. Max mile is normally not in their wheel houses. Lyriq has 102 kWh battery pack & is made to roll a long time, leaving the concern about efficiency to Leaf owners.
That is not me though. I like my tech and doing a gamafy max mile engagement is intellectually fun. I like to see what the tech can do.
I think the nuance you are conveying will likely be overlooked by features like the seat massager or the OLED crisp display. More likely folks who are in the upcoming Chevy branded ones would be more receptive to max mile techniques I use to love max miling in my Ionic hybrid. The Lyriq, the Escalade IQ, & the Celestiq owners will mostly care little about efficiency though. Their needs are met by the oversized battery.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel I actually consider regen-adjustment paddles necessary for maximizing efficiency and range and think the lack of such controls on any Tesla (for example) makes that brand a non-starter for me. I get over 5 miles per kW consumed, all year!!! Teslas only get that kind of range driving down Pike's Peak LOL
@@thomosburn8740 I got +6% one time coming down the mountain in western North Carolina, which I was proud of.
Agree 100%
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel I come from two generations of volts and bolt I loved hyper mille driving can’t wait to start that in the Lyriq :)
Question please. I got my 2024 Lux 1 trim last week (10 days ago). I keep getting the Service light ON 50% of the time I drive it (red car with explanation mark). Dealer diagnostic shows nothing wrong. Any advice?
Same thing happened with us. It went away eventually
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel okay...thanks
GM EVs will regen regardless of the one-pedal driving setting. They will also regen on braking. Often people will get a worse range with one-pedal driving because they over-regen and have to use more energy to get back to speed. Coasting is more efficient than one-pedal driving.
Thx, I didn’t know that. Teslas use break pads anytime you touch the break and I had assumed it was the same for the Lyriq.
I think ones mileage might vary, pun intended. We've got a Polestar 2 and with one pedal off I struggle to get the efficiency as high as on one pedal. I can do it but I've gotta be thinking about planning on how to maximize coasting constantly which I just find annoying.
You’ve already put over 3000 miles on it ?
@@truckeralex my wife. It is her daily driver. I drive the Volvo.
Not familiar with the Tesla brakes, but most EVs regenerate with application of the foot brake. My Porsche Taycan can regen about 170 kW, and only adds friction braking in extremely hard braking. The driver can't tell the difference.
cadillac nailed it
How soft are the seats? Esp if travelling?
Big upgrade from the TesMod3, which is what we traded in. Also better than the Volvo XC40 Recharge that sits in the garage next to it. It is a luxury car.
one pedal driving is like a manual transmission, It’s more fun and engaging but if your commute is 1.5 hours each way, sometimes you just want the automatic. I appreciate that these cars give us the choice.
Isn’t geofencing like a baby crib? It’s limits one’s freedom of movement inside a playpen. And the size of the playpen is subject to mom’s budget.
Great review FY I... Driving an EV means you are not a big boy. Big boys drive 10 year old used 3500 heavy duty trucks
Slightly misconstrued. I was suggesting driving an EV like an EV instead of with training wheels in a pseudo ICE mode to be in first time EV owners best interest.
Big trucks rock & will be diesel bread for decades to come.
My next Cadillac
Enjoyed your video 👍🏻
I’m in the middle of buying a Y or Lyric right now.
Both are nice. Lyric feels bigger all around and inside is def nice.
Kicker is the lease payment
Y $653/mo
Lyric $1053/mo
Decision made
I have some expirence that may be helpful. The Lyriq is indeed larger with respect to the interior cabin. It does not have a frunk though. Not sure if that matters. My wife's hip was hurting sitting in the Mod3 we had. We traded it in for the Lyriq and problem solved. WAY more comfortable. The Y is engineered for efficiency. The Lyriq is engineered for luxury and comfort. For ~$10k more, you get all the perks one would expect from a Cadillac plus all the benefits of driving electric (no oil changes etc.). However, if you r a first time EV buyer or not really into tech, then go for the Y. Teslas have great first time EV user experiences. Best wishes & enjoy. Both are great EVs, but the Lyriq is really better to compare to the ModX then the ModY. The Lyriq is about $30k-$40k less.
A 1 hour charge from 20 to 80 percent is horrible they need to update their charging curve it should be 30 to 40 minutes at most to charge to 80 percent from 20 percent
That curve proved to be due to a derated EVgo charging session. The Lyriq stays above 125 kW till ~80%. I pinned a comment & added a note in the description. Sorry for confusion.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel well one thing we can show is that this is the reason why gm is going to nacs for the tesla charging network this is unacceptable
@@justinjones6810 truth. Even since it was due to a derated EVgo charging session, it is what I got. SCs rock. None of this derated nonsense
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel Actually not true currently about SuperChargers not derating. First, they still share power across all the vehicles - so you aren't guaranteed max there either. And, for right now, they allow cars like the Lyriq to charge at certain stations with their Magic Dock adapter. But with that, I was only able to pull 133kW on the Lyriq. This is because they are limiting the charge current through the adapter. It is not clear if this is a arbitrary or technical limitation, but they absolutely still will throttle charging at a SuperCharger - for a variety of reasons.
love cadillac
Thanks for sharing great content on Cadillac Lyriq!
I am interested in buying it, but need to understand the support for charging when doing road trips.
Could you please recommend some web content to understand the state of ev charging support in Northeast.
If you are a first time EV buyer, I respectfully suggest considering a Tesla. The Supercharger network makes road trips uneventful. We understand the v3+ Supercharger locations will be made available starting in the spring of `24, but that is only a little over half. Plus there is the issue of the charging port location and the short Supercharger cables.
If you get the LYRIQ as your first EV, you will likely become frustrated with road trips. It is just the reality of the current situation. I am a seasoned EV owner, so for me and my wife, it is not an issue.
The rule of thumb, is when you are planning a road trip, always assume that your charging stop will be broken or unavailable, so you always need enough battery for reaching a backup option.
Thx for watching & the nice comment.
Luxury features?
Does it have
1 autopulot
2 sentry mode
3 dashcam
4 Dog,camp mode
5 Big screen to watch movies or youtube.
I believe you are asking for a comparison to the Tesla Model X. The Lyriq is superior, w/o question. In size alone, the interior is more roomy. It also has a moon roof with something that Tesla has not figured out how to do yet. A retractable shade. I see TH-cam videos of people driving around with window covers over their glass roofs in their Teslas. Also, the Lyriq has a 102 kWh battery pack. Drive all day.... Getting nit picky about tit-for-tat I am not going to get into, but the GOM in the Tesla falls short of the Google in-dash system. Google's is more sophisticated in its calculations and best in class. Another thing the Lyriq has that Teslas do not is something called a button. The way it works is you press your finger on it and it does something. No such concept in Teslas. Lastly, how do you rotate your tires on your super expensive Model X? I take my Cadillac Lyriq to my local GM dealer and they do it for me.
Great car.
Dream to drive. I can honestly say it is the nicest car I have ever owned
Why are you whispering???
Truth is I haven’t mastered audio levels & mixing.
I thought GM ultium vehicles could charge from 10 to 80 in 30 mins. The charging curve was a bit concerning as it dropped quite a bit from the peak. Q8 e-tron, Tesla, Ioniq5 curve seems to charge better. Ioniq5 is not a fair comparison as it's 800v architecture and charges from 19 to 80 in 18mins (yes it can we have the Ioniq 5), what charger did you charge on evGo? 250kw or 350kw. Did you try a different network charge to see if the curve was different. At what temp were you charging. This is one of the first videos I have seen with the curve. Great job.
I saw your note after my comments on the curve. Maybe pin your comment so we see it in the comments. Also it would have been nice to have a caption stating the curve issues. Could you make a follow up video on a new curve test. Great video.
I wish I knew a way of editing a published vid. I had considered simply taking the vid down & reposting with the curve taken out & am still considering. I will pin the comment.
Nice review. Looks like a really good option for people that are looking for a traditional car BEV. I couldn’t go back to the sea of buttons, piano plastic, but that is just me.
The cargo space is disappointing, the Model Y is more compact and has significantly more storage space. The large 100 kWh pack is nice as it gets it on par for range, especially for the price. Of course there is a penalty at the Charger, but I don’t think that is material for buyers
Cargo space in the Lyriq is more then the Y if you exclude the Y's fronk. The Lyriq does not have a fronk. Passenger space too is more in the Lyriq then the Y. It is enormous. Go sit in one at your local Cadi dealership and you will see what I mean.
The cadi is a sweet ride 4 sure. Thx for watching and taking the time to comment.
EV is horrible for my taste and requirements. EV CANNOT replace ICE. Moreover, EV is disposable appliances just like microwave ovens, refrigerators, TVs, iPhones etc. EV will never become classic and collectible like Lexus LFA, Ferrari F40, Acura NSX First Generation (the NSX without battery). I’m not against EV because it’s excellent alternate transportation for many especially urban commuters and for people who own exciting exotic automobiles who need a second vehicle for running errands. EVs are being scrapped and recycled at the end of useful life just like appliances, TVs, computers. . .
I agree with two points you make. EVs can not replace ICE. GM is investing in diesel tech due to heavy duty living in that tech for several more decades. Also, EVs are intrinsically different from ICE.
However, I disagree with the sentiment you are conveying that BEV cars are limited use to metro folk. I do not argue the point with folks such as you. I find doing so futile. It is something that I feel need be experienced to understand. Words fail to do so. I drove a Hertz rented Tesla M3 from Charlotte to Memphis (650 miles) plus back again (650 miles). I had more then twice the number of Superchargers I needed. It was seamless and easier then the same trip in a gas car.
Anyway, thx for taking the time to leave a comment.