The Darksiders Experience
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2020
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**FULL SPOILERS BE WARNED**
Timestamps:
Darksiders 1: 01:35
Darksiders 2: 12:59
Darksiders 3: 23:20
So I played through the entire Darksiders trilogy and we're here today to review the experience. I tried to have fun, but mostly only enjoyed parts of the second and third. I guess I'd put the latter two games in the same tier, and the original one tier under.
Darksiders 1 and the journey of War was fairly off-putting for reasons outlined in the video. It's not even that copping game mechanics/ideas is horribly wrong - it's stuffing so much in without asking how the systems compliment each other.
Darksiders 2 mostly does the same, but makes combat more fun overall. It's still a sloppy, wild ride but I don't hate that part of the game. I hate that I have to do a bunch of dumb puzzles when the combat sections ARE actually fun.
Darksiders 3 wins in narrative for me, and I tend to enjoy Soulslike gameplay more than limp DMC clone stuff - what can I say?
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Real talk, I'd compare it more to God of War than Devil May Cry.
JMD! I’d compare it more to legacy of Kane
Or Bayonetta with even more kinks
You say that like God of War wasn't a bad DMC.
@@thiagolouredo7533 God of War was waaay better than Devil May Cry.
Tudor Ciubotaru are you stupid
I think he missed it on both war and deaths personalities. War wasn't all edgelord, he care about balance more than the others did. All he was doing was proving he didn't mess up to preserve the balance and get revenge on those who did, like ulthaine who gave him his gun and helped cause the mess or the angles who caused the whole thing to happen in the first place. While war didn't care about anyone else because he wanted to save his brother from eternal punishment. Throughout the second game the nephilim (The race of the horsemen) keep being brought up and how death Slaughtered them to preserve peace and balance bringing in guilt and a choice between saving humans or his own race and showing him saving the humans over his own race to save his brother war.
The review lacks any nuance, he dumbed down the characters because that’s all he could see from them.
in shorter words war is a big guy who only cares about the balance and is more serious death is the most compassionite and cares about his siblings more than anyone and cares about mankind but he is a bit serious sometimes.
Darksiders 2 actually sold quite well. The problem was that THQ was already falling when they released the game and hoped that it would sell a fuck ton of copies and then some.
It was less that it sold badly, and more that its publisher had some really unrealistic expectations.
Yeah 1.5 million is really good
and the deathnitive edition sold a lot more too, the game's sales didn't stop
100th like
the ARPG system is well implemented game replayability and variety.
The DLC was good also. Death rides pack was kinda rough though
Kbash: “Death is so mean to all the NPCs!”
Also Kbash: *is nothing but mean to the NPCs*
It is quite fitting for death to have a morbid sense of humor towards everything
Darksiders 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. Its one of the most criminally underrated games of all time, I played it and I couldn't believe no one was talking about it. Its awesome
Amen brother. For me also Darksiders 2 was and still is one ofthe most amazing games ever made. I love Death my favorite horseman
2 is definitely my fave of the bunch followed by 3 (which is a hot Take I’m sure)
Agreed… why do people not like the rpg armor aspect. I mean I guess I’m a loot whore….. no that’s it I’m a loot whore….
I feel you mate
It's masterpiece ❤
Don't listen to this cry baby who have to Google for puzzles
The only thing I’m mad at on fury story is that she didn’t rage out beat the crap out of gluttony after eating the dead corpse of her horse
Facts
Somewhere Whitelight just got irrationally angry (like full Arthur fist meme) and has no idea why.
Lol Whitelight's review on Darksiders 2 is amazing. All his videos are very well constructed. He puts more effort into them on a regular basis than most people do in their combined 10 most recent uploads. Dude's a powerhouse
Yup. It was actually white light that got me into it
@@JoshMC2000 same I just beat the first 2 games, a few days ago. I enjoyed 2 way more than 1.
The only thing I have to disagree is about the lack of campy. Like, I thought that everything being overly edgy was kinda the point, not really meant to be taken 200.00% seriously, just enough to complement the edginess
I liked it being unapologetically edgy to be honest. When I saw the box art of Darksiders on my 17th birthday (damn it was released 10 years ago) I looked at it and thought "Wow this looks like those edgy as fuck comics I read when I was a little kid, looks cool I'm gonna buy it" I was kinda expecting campiness but then I got Rob lefield type of XTREME SERIOUSNESS. But at the same time the game didn't take itself to serious, reminded me of guess what? 90's era comics. I like the franchise very much, I didn't know anything about it when I bought the first game, but it stood out among the sea of oh so serious military shooters at the local blockbuster that it just begged me to spend my birthday money on it, looking back now, I'm glad I did
@@MrWepx-hy6sn well the creator of the series is a comic book artist so it's intentional that the game reminds you of comic books. I really like the designs especially all those screaming skulls and faces that seem to be pn almost everything.
@@g2.a6 yeah afterwards I researched into Joe Mad's work. He is one of my favorite comic book artists tbh
Fuck off
It is a rare occurrence that I disagree with someone on every level.
But...can we talk about how amazing wars voice is for a second? One of my favorite parts of darksiders 1. Well actually darksiders 2 as well. Love war and deaths voice
War was voiced by Liam O'Brien and his performance was nothing short of incredible. Every time he speaks, you can really feel it.
@@dontegraves5051 Agreed. Liam as Illidan Stormrage, as Gaara in the Naruto English dub, as War etc.
@@React2Quick And Asura from Asura's Wrath
THQ Nordic has nothing to do with THQ. They just bought the name after THQ died.
yeah.. originally, they were called "Nordic games"
the problem is that Darksiders 3 just threw most elements of the first two games off the window. The second one evolved lots of the elements of the first game, and it has good pacing something that made the first one so frustrating. We 've gone from crazy combat and unwanted RPG loot with gadgets that should work on both combat and puzzles to hit-hit-hit dodge Action RPG with 2 puzzles for each environment.
Darksiders 2 is still my favorite. I only liked the story in 3, I expected to hate Fury but in the end she is kinda cool. But man I sure love the voice acting of these three games, I loved how Death mocked NPCs for dumb side quest besides still doing it. Having the horse from the starting point in the second game and the combat that takes notes from DMC4 and Bayonetta just makes everything better. Btw the soundtrack of the second game is composed by Jesper Kyd, composer of the AC2 ost, and its freaking genius.
Edit: Thanxs for all the likes buddies
I feel like this comment is a better review than the video...
@@davidedema7641 yeah, this comment summed up everything..
@@alone2break agreed
At the same time I also get the guys point in the video where the depth to DS2 almost doesnt matter with how much the combat mechanics conflict with the RPG mechanics and enemy design. I felt DS1 was a more polished action game than 2
@@TheAnimatedGamer yeah, it's kinda sad when your stronger weapons make the enemies die faster. But Ds2 has more moves and variations, like those pause combos that added a shadow of the Reaper form for an Extra Hit, or the death grip that had better utility than the hook shot from the first game. Even the way you can go in and out of your horse just adds to Ds2 combat. I even heard that the game's combat designer wanted to add even more things but producers just didn't want it.
Judging by what you wanted Darksiders 1 to be, I think you'd love the God of War series (on the PS2 and PS3). It's basically everything you were asking for
depends on what you mean by god of war nowadays.
it isnt an area spectacle fighter anymore.
God of war 1 had a lot of puzzles, it was my favorite part, god of war 2 and 3 is where spectacle is, god of war 4 is more balanced between puzzles and combat.
@@dumbcube69 You're right, I edited to clarify
@@andreacicci2058 GOW1 did have a lot of puzzles but still had a lot fo combat. GOW2 I think was the perfect balance
@@Crazelord91 I don't remember gow2 puzzles, or they were really simple.
Ah yes, Darksiders, my favorite Middle of the Road Franchise and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I love the second game with a passion. Was meh about the first and have yet to play the third.
To be fair the 1st game was a meh combination of Zelda, God of War and DMC. Not a bad game but doesn't fully replicate the quality of what it's copying. Puzzles lack the creativity of Zelda, exploration lacks the fluidity of GOW and combat pales in comparison to DMC (though most do).
It works pretty well but it's copying 3 legendary franchises and matches none of them.
2 is simultaneously better and worse. The skill trees and RPG mechanics work surprisingly well, giving the combat a lot of depth while moving away from DMC to an extent. The overall game design is fucking repetitive as hell though, a seemingly endless series of "fetch 3 mcguffins" style quests. The scale works really well in the first 2 worlds but the rest feel rushed. The game is far too large and ambitious for it's own good imo. The loot system feels really out of place but surprisingly functional.
Ultimately though I'd call 2 "Padding: The Game"
Compared to the second game, I feel the same about the two others. Haven't completed the third, but I feel like I need to hold that one more "accountable" for dropping so much of what made the second game great, at least in terms of gameplay. When playing the first, I didn't know better so that's that but I was in many regards thoroughly disappointed with the third game. I think it's still worth at least trying out for you but I'd expect gameplay as a hybrid between DS 1 and 2 in terms of lateral movement, agility, combat etc. Think the safest way is to just try it for yourself.
Dont play the third
@@regularm3924 Yikes you guy. . .
The third was my favorite I recommend you
Eh, I like all three. Each for slightly different reason.
I only disagree for the third instalment
Each game has a different play style (some would say how similar 1 and 2 are, and I'm not here to argue for I'm not an argumentive type go to my brother for that) War is more about facing his opponent(s) head on while Death faces his while using the advantages that the environments give him, and lastly fury who is last one we get to properly see (still waiting on Darksiders 4 and 5)
@@kylelowe120 I definitely think that’s intentional
I kinda Hope Darksiders 5 uses this to diversify the characters
Just finished the darksiders 2 section and I realized I missed something, exploring isn't 100% necessary and it shouldn't be. You can explore or not, your choice but there is rewards, in darksiders 1 you can find more health and more wrath to increase your combat successfulness plus you can level up your weapons as you do so, and that armor that you lightly touched on, greatly reduces how much damage you take and provides healing on successful strikes, a pretty useful item. Plus finding artifacts grants additional souls which can help you get upgrades or purchase healing items or new moves etc etc. Again it's not necessary but if you want it's there, as for death you barely touched on the story if at all, he is there to resurrect humanity and clear his brother's name, also hes death, a horseman of the apocalypse, he doesnt need to make friends and they aren't wanting to be his friend either, as for that bomb hopping section you actually have a way to shove the ball meaning that bomb climb up the ramp was the incorrect way to do it, hints why it took so long, some gameplay things you just need to play around a little to really get, multiple times they mention who the end boss is and why he is important, if you only remember him from the intro scene you werent paying enough attention.. yes the games borrow stuff from other games but I personally dont mind, each of the horsemen feel unique in their movement and individual combat, again they share similarities, there are only so many ways to swing a weapon after all. Again sorry for the rant, one more darksiders portion to finish
Regarding Absalom, gotta say, it was a very bad final boss. The build-up was weak and the fight itself was lackluster. I was expecting for a second phase and it just didn't happen. He only gets name dropped and you don't really care for him at any point. He just... exists. Samael was much more impactful (and I say this having played Darksiders 2 first, so no idea he was in the previous game).
@Lunaire then the corruption was a shitty antagonist that only served to kinda exist and be in the way, no real impact in any other way. Game seriously has no defence on that area.
@Lunaire not to mention, that really doesn't excuse the final boss being super shitty. Hell, the guardian boss fight is way more memorable.
@@caveshinobi1726 Yeah it was not a great boss battle imo. I didn't care much for the fact that after Death jumps into the well of souls, we just cut back to the ending of DS1.
This dude seems butthurt he couldn't solve or figure out shit in the game.
For me Darksiders 2 is one of the best games I've ever played
He clearly doesn't get or like puzzles. He doesn't like anything about these games and he probably knew that going in but wanted to trash on it, lol.
@@GhostOfVan Agreed and he's complaining about Darksiders 2's open world? 2 absolutely craps all over 1 and 3. 1 is my least favourite just because it's just hack and slash
Just so you know, you can throw those giant balls with a push, you don't actually need bombs. And you can just run around with a bomb to open a pass.
Took me 30 minutes to figure out, not my proudest moment.
I would also argue that War/Death aren't really being dicks. That's just some friendly banter. Even Samael laughs at their jokes.
^this
Darksiders 3 is pretty good, I liked it enough to 100%. It feels more like Metroid or Castlevania than Dark Souls to me. The Force power up is pretty much the Gravity suit, it's even purple.
By the way: You can switch to Force, and you're completely invulnerable to Gluttony's SUCC attack, just like you can avoid the sentient tornado in the desert area, I thought that was pretty good design.
I agree. I love that you could swim underwater, but to solve some puzzles or find secrets, you could turn on purple-hair and sink all the way to the bottom and basically be water-proof lol
Also the flame-hair going out upon getting wet, and then reigniting once you leave the water was a nice touch as well.
Suddenly, people don't like it because of... it is harder comparing to game 1 and 2
Here you can finally enjoy the combat and rely on your reflexes. Unlike in Dark Souls, where you must stop attacking the boss and wait for them to attack you so you can dodge, in Darksiders 3 you can hit the boss as much as you want. And, you must concentrate and hit "dodge" at the right time. It feels like a real battle with fewer scripted actions
All these games are great and different
personally i like all the whole series and feel some of the criticism of the first two was a bit unfounded. with that said, darksiders 3 gotta be my favourite so far. and tbh i like that they keep trying new stuff rather than just keep following one formula, and darksiders genesis is something im looking forward to
Can't wait for darksiders 4 and there take on the third person shooter genre..... No sarcasm, I kinda love that each game is unique, makes them feel like there worth playing rather than watching them just upgrade what works making the older games in the series almost feel unplayable(go play ratchet and clank 2, then play ratchet and clank you can Feel how weird it is to go backwards) and the gameplay styles tell a story themselves, war was inquisitive but brooting, death was close to his brother and had his back in the toughest times having his own unique traits but still being like the one he admired, fury didn't give 2 shits and did her own thing almost rejecting her brothers and her gameplay reflects that
Also you have to admit IF we make it darksides 5 where we get the 4 player co-op game, you have to wonder how the fuck there going to do it cause damn do these styles clash so hard
I mean, Strife IS a gunslinger
The 4 player coop would go like ff15 where you have Prompto gunslinging, Galdio brute forcing, etc
Just hoping that the game has a performance and quality mode.
Also motion aiming at launch for the ps4, ps5, switch and theoretically the xbox series x. If microscoft listens and puts in a gyroscope for the controller
@@bradenwickstrom5618 he has double daggers
I kinda imagine there will be stealth elements incorporated into it given that he's like a cyborg ninja.
Say what you will, I still love Darksiders 2. I love the art style, the combat and I love that Death is a snarky asshole.
I honestly feel like you were being overly mean to these games.
Thank God that's why the dislike button is, I feel the same as you
Honestly that’s just Kbash’s channel in general. He brute forces his way through games only wanting to play one specific way and then either gets mad when the game asks him to do anything different or completely ignores what the game is saying only to then get mad latter when he’s confused due to him ignoring the game. Once you’ve actually play the games he criticizes and listen to what he’s saying, a lot of his points just begin to fall apart and it becomes a chore to hear him continue to misrepresent the game due to his own ignorance.
The biggest problem with Darksiders 2 is that it's first half totally abandons the heaven-hell-apocalypse theme which made DS1 unique. The second half was amazing however.
@@beerkenstein for me that is not really a bad thing to happen
@@Reaperwarth95 Yeah it's pretty subjective whether one likes it or not, I preferred the original style however.
Legit question: the bomb jumping thing?
Idk if this is just a feature in the Deathfinitive edition or whatever, but you can press R2 and shove the balls fast.
That bomb jumping thing is just extra tedium for no reason
He is an idiot, i played this game when i was 14 and figured everything fairly quickly, he is just dumb to figure shit up
It wasn't, i played this shit on xbox back when it launched and i remember, it's present on the base game, this dude just can't think to save his own life, lol.
Yeah you just punch it up, the literally tell you to that.
It’s literally something the game tells you to do
I have no idea why he doesn’t know this and I think it might be just him
@@ACE_77 Just like he complains you need to throw the bomb on the balcony. Which you don't have to do, because there's another bomb up there. I have no problem with people criticising things I like, but at that this guy just lost me. I can't take anything he says seriously when he can't figure this shit out, no wonder he complains about the puzzles all the time, he had to be stuck on them twice as long as other people...
I'll have to stop you for a sec. right there at the Ulthane ("hey, this guy is our ally!") part. War shoved the gun in his face because:
1 - That gun belonged to his brother Strife, another one of the horsemen;
2 - War was beginning to piece the whole truth together, that someone was manipulating everything, from The Charred Council to the Apocalypse, to Balance itself, and
*SPOILERS*
surprise, surprise! Ulthane conspired with Azrael and Abaddon to trigger the Apocalypse earlier, which is treason to the balance, for which War is honor-bound to kill them all someday (of which Abaddon already had his sentence carried out).
Wait, Ulthane is involved? How? Where can i check this?
@@ShatteredGlass916 Yes Ulthane was involved. Azrael straight up tells War, "yeah i told Ulthane to break the seals and then reform them to make it look like we didn't do this."
The gun isn’t Strifes, it’s a copy, not the original. Hence why war don’t comment about it being Strifes, but in DS2 when Death gets Redemption. Of course both sides are speculation, but it makes more sense for it to be a copy due to War not recognising it.
@ZedThree wars prequel comic the abomination vault novel and the youtube channel true masters and morons they have an entire playlist dedicated to darksiders
if only he paid attention to the story rather than screaming at it like aretard for existing.
Don't care what anyone thinks. War was a damn beefcake of a guy, slow, but hard hitting.
For Death to be more swift, but less one man army actually kinda makes sense. Like I said, War was a beefy bpy through and through, while Death is much more quicker and more mobile.
All in all, the Darksiders games will forever hold a special place in my heart. Especially the first two games
It seems that this time KBash has fully taken on the personality of Death.
don't be mean to death. KBash is more of a irrationally hateful type character. Death isn't that.
Sorry, but Strife is my favourite horseman.
He makes me feel like I’m watching the reincarnation of Cayde-6, and that makes me happy.
RIGHT!!!!! A buddy and I are currently playing through Genesis coop and so many times I've commented saying he sounds like hes doing a Cayde impression. A lot of Nathan Fillion influence on the voice actor I think, he even gets his inflections right
Glad I’m not the only one who thought that
I miss the loot system from the second game, being able to dress up death was a nice touch.
My favorite part of the game of Darksiders 3 was the boss battle with Lust. You really saw Fury's character grow in the moment Lust tried to tempt her with the power and title she always wanted but then realizes it feels hollow how easy it comes and she says one of the most emotional lines in her story "You should not have made them kneel!" This is the line that says it all. The anger you feel in this line shows how much shes grown as a character and how she wants to earn her place and not have it given to her.
Ahem, the 'bomb jumping thing'? Theres a button for pushing things. Cool animation with death using his true form included.
I was watching that part and wondering "dude, what the *FUCK* are you trying to do there?"
I was going to do the exact same thing he did and then the game literally told me I don't have to do that and that I could push it
and im pretty sure the game actually tells you that you can push stuff lmao. This dude just hates putting effort into puzzles ig.
Yeah that’s the weird part
The game outright gives you the method to make it easier and you’re just not using it
Best way to describe these games is "Almost there". They had so much potential, but they never reached it. And this is so frustrating.
Their budget wasn't there
To me they're as perfect as they can be (except for 3 DMC like combat Don't mash well together with Dark Souls Design)
@@petwisk2012 The combat system in DS 2 was pretty good but lacking in polish. Considering how rushed the final worlds feel, I've always thought the game would've really benefited from toning down the scale to really polish the game.
@@zeroattentiongaming820 agree. The combat was a lot of fun but the world seemed empty.
@@Sqvirt22 I agree, but I think if they scaled down a bit they could have made a shorter more reward and interesting games rather then trying to do everything
Sounds like you wanted Asuras Wrath
the amount of story and cutscenes it had would've literally murdered him.
@@ytnukesme1600 see i dunno cause he plays a lot of rpgs and those have quite a bit of reading plus the cutscenes are usually to some extent pretty hype soooo maybe?
Most respect for checking out the Darksiders series. I love all three games and I appreciate the story it has to tell.
I really like how they showcase the horsemen. Presenting them as individuals not as just these avatars of their namesake. War is an honorable brute, even though he is an angry meat puppet. Death is a very wise individual even though he can be edgy and snarky. Fury does grow a lot in the third game which does make her pretty likable. hell Even Strife has a good persona. I would also argue that the gameplay also showcases their persona's as well.
If there is one major complaint about the games is that I wish they would do horse combat better. All in all I'm just happy DS3 exists along with Genesis.
JonGravesShow everything you said 👍
@Conrad Kujur i feel like darksiders 2 is the only game that made death an actual character instead of a pure edgelord who says DEaTh CoMeS tO AlL. Also i love the design they made for death. It looks cool while not being overly edgy
I also liked how the game play actually added to the individuality of the characters
Darksiders: war, like you said is a brute, so the combat style and his movements were as such.
Darksiders 2: Death is more agile and swift. He has more dodge range than war since he is older and a lot more abilities. Also His weapon "The harvester" can turn into any weapon, so i think adding the feature of finding new scythes is a good touch
Darksiders 3: Honestly I dont know much about Fury. Im sure if i played the game again i could find a lot of similarities to her Game play style to her character as well.
I love all horsemen. Strife is the one that stands out the most for me. He's the only one that's not very serious. He's also got my favourite design out of all horsemen.
I love swords, I like learning a lot about bladed weapons. but strife even though it's just genesis we play him as is a great character and I really enjoy his personality. He is serious about his job but is very chill at how he does it
"Most pissed off guy ever conceived." - Bro I am THE Darksiders fan and War is my favorite horsemen in the series but you can only say he is the most pissed off if you have never met Kratos from God of War.
War never came out as pissed off to me, he's more like 'No bullshit, I'm here just to do my business. No questions, no banter, just rip and tear' and that's something that makes him infinetely more cool. Even knowing he has been framed and pretty much everyone against him, he rarely looses his cool. I don't what this dude was on about with War having allies in this game, he has no allies or friends, he's just tolerating them to further his own goals.
@@simla5 - Agreed. I am not sure what the person in the video was talking about. He is stoic and to the point but never super pissed off (like say Kratos in the first 3 games lol well even in the newer one lol now he is a always angry character).
And yeah he does not consider any of the demons or angels for that matter his "allies" and certainly not his friends. The only true allies he has are his brothers and his sister. He may have a little respect for them but that is not the same thing (for example he seems to respect Uriel and Azrael).
So, if these games are just blends of other games, 4 needs to be Breath of the Wild and Monster Hunter.
Also, does anyone else notice that Death drove his narrative, while Fury was driven by hers?
😂😂😂 I wouldn't be surprised if it's just breath of the wild but the main character will be a gun wielder so something that's big on 3rd person shooting
@@Brentonius_III with Tears of the Kingdom, just give Link a shield and a canon.
This is one of my favourite franchises. Love all 4 games. Pretty much everything you complained about was kind of a non-issue for me and probably most people.
"most pissed off guy created'
kratos and asura : are we a joke?
I wonder if Asura would be considered more or less pissed off than Kratos since his daughter is still alive?
and he's not even THAT pissed off.
19:52 ummmm, there was already a bomb up there...you can literally see it on you footage. Also you didnt need to do a trail of bombs to push the ball up, you just hold on to the ball and do a super push
I'm glad someone else noticed the bomb too
If Darksiders 4 gets made strife is probably gonna be my favorite, he seems to be the most lighthearted one of the horsemen from what we can gather from the spin-off.
love the personality and design of strife. Even the VA sounds good
2:51 lmao didn't know Devil May Cry had the trademark on "jabbing a sword literally straight forward" 2:51
The stinger was a move created in DMC2. Action games didn't have that specific move until that title, but especially after 3. It wouldn't be something one would really point out if it weren't for the fact that nothing in Darksiders is original.
@@JCOdrjones stinger was in dmc1 my dude
@@uegeywcewhdvsdge318 shit, I fucked up
@@JCOdrjones stabbing forward was not created by DMC 😂 it's like saying Street fighter is just copying mortal Kombat because they fight 😂
@@archienorth4893 The animation in Darksiders of pretty much a copy of DMC's stinger. And everyone knows that Darksiders is not shy about its influences.
I dunno if i agree with you for the most part.
I love the puzzles in Darksiders, especially in Darksiders 2. It is one of the most enjoyable part of the game. Though not all people care for or enjoy them so i can understand.
"friendless goon" is the most cutting insult i've heard in a long, long time. thank you for expanding my vocabulary.
19:30 lol sounds like puzzle games are just not for you. I love the 4 darksiders games, just the right mix of puzzles, action, and story for me.
@Conrad Kujur I feel like one reason why he hates these games is because he tried playing them all basically in one sitting. So he got mad whenever he got stuck like a 8 year old because of a basic puzzle.
@@crapwithanopinion2919 Agreed, he's trying speedrun a game that is stonewalling his simpleton brain. He's not trying stop and enjoy the game, he's playing it for all the wrong reasons so of course it's not fun to play.
I loved it and I like puzzles, but imo, nothing's wrong with not liking puzzles
@@sr2971 Well what's wrong with not liking puzzles is playing a game series that's got a fair number of them between combat sequences. This guy probably would have hated Soul Reaver/Legacy of Kain series too. Some games you just aren't the audience for....I'd say this was the case for Darksiders and Kbash. Especially when he's trying speedrun the games just so he can make a video about them. He's doing it for completely the wrong reasons and it's no surprise he's not having fun playing them. He's setting himself up to fail.
What i like about Darksiders is that it's an edgy mish mash of ideas in a cool setting with cool designs and decent combat, they're flawed but they're fun to play and each game has it's unique feel to it. Jack of all trades master of none.
I have an extreme softspot for Darksiders 2. I loved Death as a character, the settings were beautiful and the dungeons were way more designed than the first game.
You know I love your videos and this is actually my second viewing of this one. I am not entirely sure what my thoughts were on the first viewing it has been a while, but at least for the first Darksiders game I think you misunderstood the story or were not paying attention for the video. The story is not Shakespeare, but a lot of the incredulity that you show seems unwanted. That said I do have a bias and this is a game that I have completed multiple times.
The earth part in DS2 is no joke you'd never complete it with your melee weapons the hoards are too many.
Also according to you anything with iframing and hard enemies = dark souls?
28:52 To be fair, both those attacks are completely different animations; which is what you'd be looking for anyway in Dark Souls to know when to dodge. Hell, sometimes you have to pay attention to when your opponent breathes a different way like with Champion Gundyr's combos.
33:00 Funny enough, in Genesis, Strife is really likeable, cocky, arrogant, but also funny, and his banter with War is fun too, and it makes War break out from his brooding mood a couple of times
War has the best line in video games though...
Ulthane: I'm not afraid of death, boy!
War: It's not 'Death' you should be afraid of...
I do like how each game's combat communicates how differently each Horseman fights.
War is massive juggernaut that can stack up to 11 health bars and can dominate the flow of battle with his aoe attacks and smash apart huge enemies with how strong his attacks are.
Death is a whirling dervish of blades with some magic on the side. Constantly moving and attacking, you're always on the enemy's ass putting out damage.
Fury is the most precise fighter and decidedly a duelist, she struggles in crowded fights where someone like War wouldn't even sweat. Instead, she's far more focused on reading the opponent and striking when they're vulnerable.
This dude must hate nier automata.
The general game-feel for the Darksiders games has always been kind of off. Nier Automata at least feels good to play most of the way through.
Then again, the guy has a lot of hot takes, so who knows?
@@chrisossu2070 he will hate it for all of the wrong reasons and will review with heavy croticism on all of the non issues... just like this vid!
I can't wait for that
...why? NieR: Automata is a critically acclaimed title that has a lot of respect and pretty decent combat. Darksiders is a niche series that since day 1 people have called out on its unoriginality.
Except Automata's combat is very fluid and fast with lots of possibilities for style. The main problem it has is the RPG mechanics. Plus you gotta respect the game for never stopping to think if their players are too stupid to infer who Kierkegaard is
And finally having finished the entire video, I agreed with some points and disagreed with many more, I personally did not like fury's personality, and yes the expositon is long in the beginning but helps outline who you are why you are there and what to do. I do believe fury had a good arc and changed, the gluttony fight when hes doing that sucking you in attack, if you switch to the force hollow the purple hair, you dont get sucked in btw. And as for your havoc form, level up arcane damage, if you look at the damage numbers when you fight, white is normal or physical, every other color, purple yellow red blue etc etc. That's arcane damage, your havoc form feeds directly from arcane damage, I dont really have many gripes with this section I've outlined it in previous comments, whether you read this or not doesnt really matter, this series is not for everyone, some people like myself really enjoy and understand the story while others may just look at the gameplay and dislike it. Both are entitled to their opinions though. And hopefully for those who see this video and havent played it, they can read the comments and maybe get a better understanding
Doesn't help that he didn't understand any of the story or lore in DS1 😂
28:30 The point of multiple attack prediction lights is having to focus on the posture of the enemy so that you know in what direction to dodge, thats why you got hit in the clip you showed, not really because of the speed. Cause you did roll *in time*, just not in the right direction.
I don't if I've commented yet but as I die hard Darksiders fan this review had me laughing so hard.
I feel like the near-death execution animations may have been an inspiration for the glory kills in the new Doom games
If the combat is only mediocre (which I mostly agree) isn’t it a *good* thing that the games switch it up sometimes with puzzles and platforming?
Last time I played them was binge playing all three together, great experience
DS1 I felt was pretty good, the combat could use some more polish, but as some dumb fun it's a great time
DS2 is my favorite of the 3, I love the world(s) and characters you meet, and the dungeons, DS2 has some of my favorite dungeons in any game
DS3 I feel is a good game that managed to escape its development hell, though not without a few scars, Gluttony is an unpolished mess, there's minor pop-in all throughout the game and entire sections of the game popping in in others, I was more forgiving of the game in those regards considering it's a miracle the game released at all
I liked them all, but I legitimately feel like the third was the best too, I latched unto Death's care for his brother more, and it's what made me stick around through his snarky dialogue cause it felt like he still had some form of emotion
And seeing Fury completely change her viewpoint throughout the game, going from the most dickish of the horsemen to arguably the most caring and kind save (maybe?) Strife, was amazing, and she was a joy to watch on screen in comparison to war and death, even though I did like them.
I remember playing the first game a long time ago, stunlocking everything with that goofy horn, and burning out about four hours in. Cool to see where the series went from there, looking foward to Darksiders 4 being a horn based rhythm puzzler.
Hmm...
I'm under the impression you do not like edgelords...
Oh well. Your loss I guess :P
Honestly though, I can understand your complaints.
Personally, I enjoyed all of them. One of my favourite francises ever :D
Also REALLY aprpreciate you liking the the Third. Furry definatelly had the best storry ark.
Onic 14 i agree with you
Heh. Furry.
Do you even KNOW him? He LOVES edgelord characters.
I havent finished the whole video but having finished the darksiders 1 portion of the video, I personally really enjoyed darksiders 1, it's hard to really explain but war acts the way he does because of his honor. I thought some of his best moments were those "super serious standing still moments" like when he denies killing uriel for nex sacremntum, stating that he would decide when she dies, ultimately letting her live by the end of the game. And not to say the dark souls get good thing, but a lot of encounters are made quite simple and quite fast if you know what the enemies are weak to and or can chain combos together, the random sections where gameplay is changed up is a nice change of pace in my opinion, those gun sections you can still use your sword but game says here is another option. As for the characters acting shitty towards war? He is the horseman of the APOCALYPSE whom they believe ENDED HUMANITY and ruined the balance they all serve, of course they hate him. All in all your review wasn't horrible but I feel you missed some big pointers.. anyways I'm off to finish the video sorry for the rant
The problem here is. You need to play god of war. Darksiders is essentially god of war light
Man, he can't handle doing puzzles or pushing blocks, he'd just spend his entire time complaining how GoW's excitement level isn't flat 11 out of 10 for the entire game (cause that's not as boring af). But Zelda gets a pass of course.
AngryCosmonaut I mean puzzles are boring and monotonous and I think that’s why God Of War 2018 cut them out
@@decafv1853 there were still puzzle in god of war 2018
@@devontelink2707 There were FAR fewer than previous games, and they were less boring
uhh.... no.
30:19
You... You know you could've used force to not be pulled in right?
I get that lightning is good and all, but force actually negates the need to dodge that
the tornado can still pull you in if you're outside, that mechanic only works in the level after it.
@@jj4433
first of all i was referring to gluttony's suck move, second while force wont stop the tornado from killing you wont be pulled in as hard
@@michaelr20010713 ah, my bad. I assumed that was what you were referring to because the gluttony force mechanic is so obscure in comparison. But the force hollow makes no change to the tornado giving you the succ that close.
Sounds like Strife from Genesis will sort your too serious complaint, he's definitely a much needed addition to the world. The puzzles though, those aren't going anywhere. (Which is fine for me because I love them xD)
Envy COULD be compared to Fury. I mean, they're both the lesser siblings, envious of the others, but end the game extremely powerful, arguably more powerful than their siblings. (especially if you use that one glitch that let's you get to lvl 300 in the first area)
EDIT: WHY DID I CALL HER RAGE?! I MEAN, FURY IS SORT OF SYNONYMOUS WITH RAGE, BUT ALSO SORT OF NOT, GOD, I'M STUPID!
Envy is envious of the horsemen. This can be seen by her wielding a huge sword with a bunch of soul faces carved into it, a Scythe and two pistols. She even had a skull mask that looked Just like Death's.
using specific moves, using a grappling hook, collecting stuff to make another stuff..... I didn't know those things were just a trademark of a game they were famously seen as o.o
also war isn't angry at everything. he is not Kratos nor Asura to angry at everything. he is just super annoyed that he got called to end the world but lo and behold it didn't actually end because the 7th seal is still there uncracked.
the council (those flaming tree barks you called) stripped him of all his powers because they blamed him to have ended the world which made annoyed him even more. War sees himself as the most loyal keeper of the balance to have him be blamed for breaking the said balance made him look super super serious. oh btw that's the gist of the story in case you skimmed through it. oh also, it's the reason why War can't just flatten someone into paste or rip demonic/angelic origin doors off their hinges, and can't fight demons/angels properly because his powers got stripped of him. he is not as strong as he used to. so he must fight and do what he must do to the best of his current abilities.
I want to add. when I play games I do not compare... well I do but the extent is just saying what it's gameplay looks like to others who haven't seen the game. I do not compare and say this game is a copy of this game so it's shit because it has mechanics to it.
when I play I play it based on the worlds background. And it's what made me enjoy the game. in fact it's what made me enjoy any game I play. I will admit it does possess mechanics that other games have. But I still enjoy the game. I play the game, enjoy/not enjoy it, then voice out what I like and don't like about it.
the darksiders franchise does seem lacking in many aspect but it's still enjoyable if you don't go around comparing it to others. you are too focused that the game possess a mechanic that many other games possess that you won't notice how enjoyable a game is by just focusing on the game itself.
I play league but I've only played a few games of Dota with friends. I don't play league and say "oh this mechanic is in dota, that mechanic is the same as that" I just enjoy the game cause it is enjoyable.
2 is my favorite of the three games and I think it has a lot to do with three things:
1. The Atmosphere and artstyle that makes everything both really empty and also popping a lot.
2. The music by Jesper Kyd (who I loved in the Assassin’s Creed series) and the soft themes like the ones from the Makers.
3. Death himself is that Edgy kid with a heart of gold trying to be super snarky and aloof when he is actually really caring and compassionate.
The second u pulled out that box ik what tf was going on 😂
I just find it so weird that the first one is the more polished. That also includes with the ports. With Darksiders Warmastered Edition running at 60, and the switch version having performance mode and quality mode.
Then darksiders 2 being rushed and unpolished in the second half in design. Then then Deathinitive edition of PS4 pro running at 30 with the game freezing when loading areas. For a game originally made for the ps3 and xbox 360. That's not including the switch port where it just runs bad. With longer load times and the frame rate dipping below 30. I don't understand why darksiders 2 deathinitive edition is so half assed, but darksiders warmastered edition is just a really good port?
besides different engines? well pretty simple, they are more used to Unreal Engine than their own created engine for that game alone (phoenix engine, yeah it looks like ue3 but it isnt) it also boils down to Architecture, how some stuff are implemented and or coded for go see the Saint row the Third switch port, it runs horribly! why? because switch gpu architecture doesnt accept Deferred Light system and thats was the inovation they came up for that game back in 360, a deferred light engine.
the port problems arent just because they are not big anymore (nordic games which is now THQ nordic) but also because of complete different hardware running something that it shouldnt in the first place. aka sonic boom trying to run CRY FUCKING TECH 3 on a hardware it was NOT EVEN SUPPORTED TO RUN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
@@LyrisTheCat firstly, thanks for the info. Does give some clarity
Secondly, it is really weird that they built a brand new enguine that they were not use to. I mean no matter the case, there is no good excuse for a game running bad. If they should have been given more time to make the darksiders 2 port better. A bad port is still a bad port no matter what.
Also with Darksiders 3 running of Unreal Enguine 4, Kingdom Hearts 3 runs on the same enguine and has a performance mode. Also it just runs way better.
I know KH3 is split into segmented areas and Darksiders 3 is supposed to be a seamless world. But that just means that the team needed to rethink how they designed the game. If it doesn't work, then change it. Don't keep it if it's not good. Darksiders is basically segmented areas, but it does it in a much less appealing way. You know, with KH3 fading to black and logo, then fading back to the world. While Darksiders 3 is just freeze the game, logo and some times see the game loading in front of your eyes
Also side note, every game on console should have a graphics option. Doesn't need to be as complex as PC settings. All the need to do is have a toggle between Performance mode and Quality mode. Just to keep both camps happy. With people prefering a game to have better graphics and running at a stable 30. And the other with people who don't mind worse graphics as long as the game runs at 60
@@teneesh3376 you really comparing a double A title against the third and final entry of a series that's is been going for almost 2 decades?
dude Darksiders 3 isn't triple A 1 and 2 were but 3? no just wrong.
kh3 was on the hype train so fucking hard that Nomura himself said fuck it with ff15 and jumped to create kh3, the budget,team, and cheer size of the games you are comparing is utterly gargantuan and unfair. square did miracle with that engine.
back in Darksiders 1 ue3 was already know for smaller worlds and is a really badly made engine for asset streaming that's why they developed their own to meet exactly what they wanted and needed without sacrificing load times for the cheer size of their ambition.
and finally kh3 is the best game graphically created so far on ue4 for consoles but that game also had a rushed Dev time because it was announced prematurely and got a reboot mid development.
edit:about the "segmented" loading you think the slow as fuck crawling sessions and the verticality of elevators are for what? for you to go take a piss?DUDE THEY ARE THE LOADING SCREENS, that crawling thing and or locking you in a room until door opens is a loading screen since the mid to end of 360 generation lol
@@LyrisTheCatbit late to reply. But the long load times were referring to certain open areas where the game would literally freeze and have an icon until the game loads an area. Crawling sections are annoying. But like walking sequences in gears of war 1, I get it. It was to hide load screens. But on a ps4 pro, some open areas would just freeze you in place.
Well on a ps5 or pc, it's better. Still has the strange glitch of edges of the screen not loading fully. So you'll sometimes see the empty world on the side edges of your screen
@@teneesh3376 AA title, most of the people who made those ports werent the same who developed the game who knows in the end, its an old af game so who really cares just get a cheap ssd and your problems are literally gone.
Death hides his kindness
War does things by the book
For those passing through.
In Darksiders 1, the basic attacks that you can do with Chaoseater are the worst ones.
Spec into whirlwind strike and orbit slash asap, then just flow in an elegant maelstrom of death.
Eh, I like Zelda games, I like dark souls, I like the setting, I like the art style.I know the games are super unoriginal, but I still have fun.Basically these games are my crack. Cheap, effective, and catering to all my niche wants.I appreciate the different take on DS3 tho. I loved the boss design, even if the dark souls design was missing a huge pillar; every attack in dodge able. Definitely not the case here. felt like I was playin anime Dark souls 2
Dark siders and dark souls are 2 definatley different games
Are we really here complaining about how enemy has attack variety and its just not a straight up dodge simulator?, calling it “bad game design”
Just time dodges better.
I noticed that in his DarkSiders 1 & 2 gameplay he either kinda sucked, or just reaaaly didnt wanted to play and just wanted to get over with it
I think his point is valid, the timing should be very precise yet consistent (like dark souls) and not inconsistent unfair bullshit
How are you supposed to time dodges better if.....the attacks are random.. what??
AT LAST after like 10 years you finally give me the name of this game. I remember reading a test in a French video game website about it ages ago and was left wondering what was the name of this game. Thanks !!!!
Thank you for the video. I bought the game after i played darksiders 2, was initially angered how fragile fury was and how not powerful she felt to play with. Left it at that for a long time. Thanks to your video i took the game up once again and played it through, this time with more patience and engagement. And ultimately fun :D
lore wise, war's power was still locked away within the seals of the apocalypse. He wouldn't rebel against the watcher because he didn't have the power to face him juat yet.
And the watcher had a curse on him that could kill him.
I finally played and beat the first game early this year (after bouncing off it 2 or 3 times over the past 4 years or so), and liked it a whole lot. A suite of copied gimmicks definitely isn't something I want out of action games as a general rule, but with 2020 vision, I appreciate the novelty for what it was. After this video, I'm especially stoked to get to Ds3, after I beat Ds2.
Definitely enjoyable experience.
Youre the only person that can have shit/controversial gaming takes, but i still will always love your content. There's something about your script,comedy . The way you speak that is just.
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Oh, hell yeah...
Time to KBash my head in for the next half an hour.
I love these vids.
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i love the bomb section of darksiders 2 of this video. you did the puzzle completely wrong XD
lool good thing Whitelight did his analysis on 2 because i feel most people would write the whole series off based on what you have said so far.
As a major fan of this series, his statements on these games are pretty valid. Granted my favorite game was 2 and will always be 2, but the game does have major flaws that just can’t go unnoticed.
The way I see it, the games were very ambitious -- too much so, in fact. I've only played Darksiders 2, but damn I loved the hell out of it. When I finally beat the game, I was only mildly interested in restarting the game, but came to the conclusion that it just wasn't worth it. The game was good on its own. I enjoyed the combat and the puzzles. The story, albeit convoluted and too wrapped up in itself, was fine for what it was. What really got me was just how long of a game it was. It was good, but it just dragged on and on and on. I agree with pretty much all your points, but I don't agree with the overly-negative tone you have. Ironically, it actually fits the doom and gloom aspects the games were going for lol. Anyway, I'd love to go back and play the remastered edition on PS4, but part of me just doesn't think it would be worth it, especially since it really did take me over 20 hours to beat the original version sans DLC. Maybe I'll get around to playing it again someday. Who knows?
I find it kind of crazy that you find 20 hours too long for a game but that's just me.
@@AceBountyHunterRex That was just a rough estimate for the story alone. I don't remember how long I actually took to beat the game.
@@themadhattress5008 fair enough but if i may ask are you someone who usually enjoys long games or not really?
@@AceBountyHunterRex I think it depends on the game, really. I can look up from playing a game like Dark Souls and to realise hours have gone by. Same with games like Devil May Cry or whatever. I think the pacing of Darksiders 2 is too drawn out, really. Either that or the puzzles and platforming are too infrequent. In retrospect, the game just seems so tedious -- and maybe too repetitive, and that's why it felt like such a slog to get through. Darksiders 2 is one of the very few games where it just didn't seem worth it to replay the game. Other games I can start over, even if they're long as hell, and still find enjoyment out of it. Kingdoms of Amalur, actually is another game that's kinda like Darksiders 2 in that respect, except that the progress you make in the game actually seems worth it. Still hard to go back to sometimes, but never a slow crawl of an experience. That could simply because of the seeming variety presented while keeping the gameplay relatively consistent.
@@themadhattress5008 i see well ill say i do disagree with your thoughts on darksiders 2 since i love it. But i will say i appreciate you elaborating on your thoughts on it. Can definitely respect you for that and i can see where your coming from. Its not a game for everyone.
What is this hater HQ
I think it's worth mentioning that in the gun section in DS2, you can just put the gun down and fight through normally, no problem. I THINK you only need a gun to open the next section, but I am not sure.
Dark siders 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. But seeing you mock death having it out for everyone was fucking hilarious. Man I love this channel.
I have all the games in the series loved each one of them.
The 3rd one is my least favorite.
I can replay 1,2 and genesis with no problem,but 3?
No thanks
I just platinumed 2 and Genesis on PS4 and I did 1 months ago.
Now only 3 remains.
This is the KBash content I subbed for! More full series reviews!
Yeah, I got absolutely HOOKED after watching his Diablo series video.
ur killing me with these thumbnails BOI 😩👌💯
Damn, didnt think hed enjoy the 3rd one so much....glad to have another member in the club.
Oh, huh, didn't expect this. I played Darksiders 3 on the Xbox Game Pass and while I enjoyed it, it just kept feeling mediocre and too much like a Dark Souls wannabe. It didn't help that enemy balance was all over the place.
You obviously didn't understand the lore at all, when u spoke about the part where war pointed a gun at ulthain, u sounded like u didn't play the game for fun you played it for TH-cam, Ulthain was one of the three that wanned to start the apocalypse prematurely so obviously war was supposed to kill him, ehhh honestly you are just salty at a game you didn't even try to understand.
ACE THANK YOU!!!!!!
Yes!!! I was also going to respond with this but wanted to wait a bit in case I was salty. But I still hold to that opinion.
War didn't know that when they met. All he was told at that point was that Ulthane was in the way of the Griever's hideout. That whole gun thing was just him being an asshole.
@@AgentHooligan If you have paid attention to what war said, you would have understood
Ulthain is a Maker, what is he doing on earth? + the black hammer is on exile meaning he did something related to the premature apocalypse, and he didn't answer war's question, that's why war pointed the gun.
So you're saying that the ONLY reason a maker could be on earth is because they specifically had a hand in causing the apocalypse? Nothing else? Not only is that a pretty weird conclusion to jump to, but War wouldn't even have had any proof to back that claim up. Let's not forget that, like I mentioned before, War didn't know Ulthane was involved at all until Azrael told him at the Black Throne.
Duuuuuude....I already liked your Bioshock perspective but the Too Human reference? Very Nice. Very nice.
I love the Darksider's games... but I think the best way to describe them is that they're good, fun games that are just lacking that one thing that would make them great. There's a lot of pieces that work well on their own... but don't exactly work well together. At least not completely. They just miss the mark that would send them over the edge to greatness and it's a shame because the developers put a lot of work into them... but just couldn't (or didn't) fine tune them to make them memorable.
This whole comment section is just coping
Guy is absolutely clueless when it comes to storytelling.. why would WAR, one of the four horsemen of apocalypse be having fun with himself and just tearing everyone and everything to shreds when the whole point of the horsemen is to maintain balance. They are all extremely honorable and the whole point of the story is War regaining his honor. He does not kill mindlessly, he is not evil nor good, he is there to clear his name and to restore BALANCE.
Dayum haven't seen a review about darksiders this on point before
I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who likes all three games... but 3 is my favorite as well, so...