@@jakeriese4862 I mean, most of the misfortune in Roxas' life is in some way because of Sora, Xion dies to recomplete Sora's memories, he has to give up existing for Sora, Axel dies in KH2 to save his butt. He gets repeatedly told he shouldn't exist to recomplete Sora, so of course he has a reason for being angry and hurt at him, Roxas barely even knew Sora but he had to lose so much for him. But their real selves made up with each other anyway, they're fine now
@@FormalGibble sighhhh. It was common knowledge who that was at the time. They didnt try to hide it from the player. Its roxas who doesnt know who it is. These fights, they are in the perspective of the character you're playing as. Not from the perspective of the player. Does that make sense?
@@bleuorange3238 but isn't roxas a part of sora? He's not pure, just like water is. He's more like a cinnamon roll, hints of a darker side sprinkled in with his optimism. The darkness being the cinnamon in this analogy, for those who will undoubtedly not get this.
Shadow snake remember when sore kills himself to save Kairi! He made a heartless while roxas aka soras nobody ended up in twilight town! Normally you would have to kill the heart less and the nobody to get the human back but kairis light saved sora. But he’s only half of what he was because he needs roxas to be whole again.
Top 3 Roxas quotes 1. Hands off my friends! 2. Looks like my summer vacation is... over. 3. ITS WAY PAST TIME THAT YOU LEARNED WHAT REAL HURT FEELS LIKE!
You cannot and WILL NOT deny that Jesse's performance is simply chilling, considering it's the first time we hear a KH character sound emotionally unstable.
@bob ross Nobody says recoded ruined the story, the main fucking complaint was that it added nothing to the story, but why would you give a shit about the story if it's fucking broken
Danniel I’ve played through the game this past week, I don’t think it ever clearly says “this is Roxas” it’s just kind of implied, especially because Roxas doesn’t seem to talk out loud most of the game. He’s keeps the hood up throughout the entire game, and you don’t actually see his face on the DS. Plus, to Data Sora, he’s never met or heard of Roxas, so to Data Sora, this is just some random dude with two Keyblades and a black coat. XD
Being perfectly honest, I actually didn't when I first played. But that was because I was a dumb stupid idiot and jumped into KH Re:Coded with the only other KH game I'd played at the time being the original.
@@MuffinMythos I think any doubts went out the window the second Roxas' theme from Days started and Oathkeeper appeared in his left hand. That was certainly when •I• knew it could only be Roxas under that hood.
RisingDarkness No, assuming you're asking a genuine question and aren't joking, when he says 'real hurt' the context he's saying it in implies that Sora doesn't know how it feels to lose friends and not have a identity of his own like Roxas does. To just be a common assassin of a organization he didn't sign up for. To learn that he's apart of the very thing the Org has been trying to eradicate or control all this time. He's saying Sora doesn't know how it feels to struggle, basically, and that the pain he feels is just artificial and is only available for him to experience through Roxas' suffering.
Roxas has got to be the best character in KH. He has a good background and you really get to know him well. You feel his feelings along with him, I love him so much!
Well, thing about Ventus and Roxas is... we know EVERYTHING about them, pretty much. 358/2 Days was literally Roxas' entire life right there. Birth By Sleep explained who Ventus was and why he went to Sora. Truth be told, it still doesn't make sense why Sora is so special. Yes, how Roxas and Namine were created from him, and how Sora can dual wield as well are explained, but why exactly is he ultimately the hero that will open the door to end everyone's hurt? Why was it that right after he was born, his heart could somehow make contact and restore Ventus' heart after it was damaged? I'm hoping that we learn more. And Sora's had development himself as well. In DDD, he literally took all of Roxas's memories after Roxas gave it to him, and still he endured it and remained how he was, but somehow stronger in a sense, or his resolve was stronger. Only thing is, we don't see Sora actively showing the suffering he goes through often enough, so we compare him to Roxas and Ventus, who have gone through pain and torment that we know about.
The issue is sora is basically naruto, we have people who are dying left and right yet we have the protagonist who is an immature child who believes friendship is the key and answer to everything. And unfortunately that's true in kingdom hearts, then you have roxas who is fleshed out and pretty realistic on how people would act, he gets depressed, he gets sad and mad. Sora doesn't. Sora is literally always happy. Even when his friends may be fucking dead. when we're kids we don't really catch on to tropes like these, hence why most people when they're older prefer Roxas over Sora but when we're younger we like Sora.
LadyFall Also that is not the real Sora the real Sora is back on the island were it all started after the events of Kingdom Hearts 2 sorry Sora didn't learn anything.
@@QuanBrown27 in KH 2, he lost his memory at the start of the game. The reason of that because Ansem rewrite his memory so he forgot being one of the old organization xiii
@@xanethedarkwerehog Except the small guy from the land of dragons in kh2, he literally got punched because he asked what his problem was, though later he gained his respect.
@@xanethedarkwerehog True, but he also gained his respect by the end, Sora seems to do that, even with the most hard headed people he meets, like the King from Atlantica. I guess Sora is just that good at earning respect where respect is due, even if that person is a violent or very untrusting personality.
This is probably the most underrated scene when it comes to Kingdom Hearts How come no one whose into Kingdom Hearts talks about this This really does add more character to both Roxas and Sora Sora knowing how important pain is, to really understand what a person is going through Roxas knowing that pain,actually teaches Sora about it so that way he'll understand people better Its such an important scene for this reason
+Undoubtedly Bendy He does, just not onscreen. Or at least we can assume that he does, since Mickey promised he would tell the real Sora and we don't expect Mickey to break a promise. It's also important to note that Roxas teaching Sora about this pain is highly ironic, for a Nobody who is convinced he doesn't have emotions (much less, a data copy of a Nobody who is convinced he doesn't have emotions).
It also doesn't help that sora doesn't ever act like he knows what people are going through. He just says stuff about his friends and magically cheers everyone up. I'm pretty sure cloud would fucking hate sora yet they make it seem like he likes him.
Roxas begs Sora to finish him off and finally put an end to the hurt that he's been suffering for so long. When Sora doesn't, he bitterly concedes that there's no point in destroying him, using his existence within the datascape as an allusion to his existence as a Nobody; someone that doesn't and shouldn't even exist.
He couldn't remember Xion because everyone's memory of her disappeared as soon as Roxas defeated her and she vanished back into Sora's memories of Kairi
***** The quantity of health bar doesn't say if a boss is strong, you have the rare Lord Kyroo in KH3D and yet this boss isn't hard, but on the other side, you have VLS, who has only one health bar but is very strong and resistant.
Players: this story was pointless because the real Sora was never connected to the data one's experiences. Mickey: [EFF] you, I just broke my fingers writing the whole thing to tell him all about it!
@@Dreq458 You're right. Aside from the demonstration that data can become part of a heart (an additional hint to the true nature of Nobodies and a crucial step in saving the likes of Roxas), mentioning that people return when their Heartless are destroyed (do I even have to say what this led to?), directly linking the painful events of the past to the present (because that's WHY the whole Sleeping Worlds trip happened), this game's story gave us absolutely nothing.
No one else.......really Picked up on the "Theres no point in destroying something that never existed" I just saw something that never actually was ment to exist cry out
Interesting that Data Sora, the most "fake" Sora of all, was able to keep his heart from falling to darkness from all this, while the real Sora failed when faced with the same heartache.
wow, jesse mccartney's voice work in this particular scene incredible, especially the 'its way past time you learned what real hurt feels like' line. he's shaped up to be the absolute best voice actor in the series by far.
Hes playing the role of guiding the data sora to namine as a test. Though the real hurt might be a bit of projection from forgetting xion@arikatheprincessofhearts2043
Absolutely love Roxas, easily my favorite character of the series. Such a tragic but memorable character. He inspires me to always never lose sight of who I really am, no matter how confused or lost I may become.
What really annoys me about this game is how much character development there is, but not at the same time. This is something the real Sora and Roxas can't share and bond over. Data Sora, who has the most character development and seeing and understanding people and feelings, doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. It's pure story telling for the player, and only wishing this was the Real Sora experiencing this! You can argue that this issue is somewhat settled in Dream Drop Distance, but I really wish he got the character development Data Sora got.
SmithSmithery The game's story does mean something, it's just the character development doesn't mean a whole lot. Data Sora had to have character development in order to access information that leads to Master Yen Sid needing to test Sora for the Mark of Mastery to see if really is ready to handle all that burden. It was also to tell players, even if Sora forgets, his heart will always remember which ends up staying true in DDD.
I just want Data-Sora back in the future, maybe in a new form that resembles Sora's KH2 Outfit but still retained elements of his original KH1 Design (Maybe he's just always in KH2 Limit Form).
@@adamlong6711 i don’t really care for him that much either. I liked him until he came back. I think he should have stayed gone. Thats just me i guess thiugh
+Aidan Keogh When I explain it to non fans I just say Xehanort is using a combination of time travel, possession, and a variety of chosen ones to become omnipotent. I don't even bother explaining Roxas, Xion and the replica program, the first organization 13, Xehanorts heartless being a possessed Terra heartless who stole the identity from the real Ansem who is a benevolent king of Hollow Bastian formerly named Radiant Garden, Sora being a "safety net" chosen one pending Riku's choice who has since built up a resistance to darkness and could at one point transform into Terra-Xehanorts heartless Ansem, and how Nobody's can get a heart back, and how Namine was a hybrid nobody of Sora and Kairi who could manipulate their memories. And wait until I tell you about Ventus... Basically this is a series of a million details.
2:10 I've never played this game, but that line still gives me chills, and actually kinda hurts me; but it hurts in a good way. I know that sounds weird, but I don't know how else too explain it.
+Real.kings 101 what part? I was just stating what I saw in the comments. I got this game a little while ago and I do think the music is good....or this is my attempt to defend a dead joke.
+johnathan carr I am not to experienced; I have only played 358/2 days and part of recoded. From what I have seen from the kh2 fight, it looks to me like Roxas is stronger. Kinda just want to start an educated discussion instead of people shouting their opinions.
+Aias Adams I go off of the amount of things Sora has done, along with the fact Roxas would be as strong as sora was in Kh ( naturally) then you add his own feats he is incredibly powerful. Sora is stronger than he used to be by the end of KH2 Its fair to say he would likely be stronger. Not gameplay wise cause obviously you are the player. If we just use game cannon sora has beaten Roxas, Roxas had nothing to gain by holding back against him in recoded or KH2. Don't mean to rant but that's just how I see it, I like Riku the most but it's fair to say he is under Roxas and sora .
I understand how complex and how great Roxas was written. But Sora made a very great point about despite the pain, he can at least learn something from that pain. Making him just as greatly written as Roxas. It may not be much, but it’s definitely a good thing to look on to. This is why Sora is one of the best characters and like-able ones. Not many people see it though. Sadly, none of this is real, since this is just coded data or whatever. Its not the Real Sora nor Roxas.
3 years later, I know. But I think it's perfect. It shows how he's the strongest Light magic user in the series because only those with a pure and balanced heart can use it to that extent. So that means people like Ventus, Xion and Sora, maybe Kairi. Even Mickey, Minnie, Yen Sid or Merlin haven't used magic hour like this. They're powerful in other ways, sure. But they lack the heart to use Light abilities like this. Keep in mind this still is Roxas holding back a bit. He could potentially combine his limit break from kh2fM and in Days for another ultimate Light attack.
George Washington so a voice actor determines how much credit you give a character? And no, he hasnt beat riku multiple times. They fought once, and when riku held back his darkness (his stronger side), he got the better of him. Once riku let loose and released it, he stomped him. Also, sora and roxas are near the bottom of the totem pole of keyblade users. Bbs characters are all better and riku and Mickey as well. And before you say sora beat all the main baddies, he didnt do it alone. If it wasnt for riku in 2, he would have died many times over. And when has roxas fought any XIII member other than xion (if that counts) and axel? I like roxas but no need to put him up on a pedestal higher than he should be.
You can tell Luxu is just waiting for an opportunity by the way he reacts when the young Xehanort says the ancient keyblade that his master of masters once owned I believe.
I remember the absolute feeling of triumph when I finally beat Roxas as a kid. This was such a challenging fight and it took so long, but in the end it was worth it.
Man it's so irritating when people just phase inside of you and set up shop in your heart. They don't pay rent, never clean after themselves and they always spout nonsense about darkness or whatever. So Sora has like 4 people in his heart eating his food and using up his hot water?
This is what gets me about KH3, moments like this were prevalent leading up to it. Nomura digged the knife so deep. -learning about xion -learning about what happened to terra aqua and ventus -roxas being the final boss of Recoded -dark ventus being the final boss of DDD -seeing roxas and xion again in DDD You felt so bad for these characters and just wanted to save them. Then the third game comes around and you can do just that. But the way it does it is so unsatisfying. Like I got them back, but I wish I had worked a little harder at it or gotten them back gradually vs all at once.
This scene meant so much to me the first time I saw it...only a year ago, around this time. I'd just lost a close companion...and then another close one was on their way shortly after... I was experiencing a ton of emotional and mental pain at the time, and all at once...but after watching this scene, something clicked in me...a lot of times when someone is grieving, they'll try to dismiss the pain, or try to forget the incidents/loss that's occurred, or the individuals entirely. They'll try to put it all behind them, wipe their own memories, because the hurt is too severe to acknowledge/handle...sometimes, that can break a person, and put them in a very dark place...but I needed this scene...it helped me remember that trying to forget the pain, or letting it throw you into darkness isn't the way...pain is a part of loving someone. Losing them is tragic, but it's best to hold onto your memories of loved ones after, than trying to sweep them under a mental rug entirely. It's better just to feel, grieve, and eventually accept the hurt...because it's better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all...I still deeply cherish the memories of those who are gone, because they are a part of me...and my memories keep them alive in my head. They were worth the pain of loss in the end. And remembering that after watching this scene was just what I needed to prevent me shelving my emotions away at the time, running away from them, and trying to become "numb" or "dismissive" of them. Plus, as Sora's interaction with Roxas at the end pointed out, the pain and experiences can become useful in empathizing and helping others who are going through the same things...That's the main reason (among others) that Re:Coded is my favourite Kingdom Hearts game!...I love anything that can teach me!
Y’all are talking about how it says “mystery opponent” when we know who it is, but it reminds me of when Roxas has to defeat the “mystery man” that *definitely* isn’t Riku with a bandanna.
Not true, tho they're "the same person" they still have different body's. I'm the same age as a friend of mine yet I'm way taller then him. it's normal :P, not trying to chew your out or anything ^-^
Ultimak Same here until I felt like that Kid Sora's voice was Sora when he was 14 and IMO he sounded more like he was 10 or 11. When Haley voiced Sora again, the character was 15. Sure, it's weird that we're hearing KH2 Sora in the model of KH1 Sora in Re:COM, Re:C and 3D but in a way he sounds more like a teen IMO.
Jessie McCartney's voice acting has improved so much since KH2. I mean his voice acting was great before, but gosh damn you can really hear the emotion in 2:10
So I've played through kh 3 now and I still think that this was the best synchronization performance in the series, Jesse McCartney is just incredible I can't
Yooooooo, (Kh3 spoilers ahead) Did you see how Braig/Luxu squinted his eyes when they were talking about the MoM keyblade? Totally an early hint Braig was connected somehow.
Roxas is a much better character than sora in my opinion, roxas went through losing his best friends and his technical family in organization xiii just because some assholes decided he didn't get to live because he "didn't have a heart" when its pretty obvious that roxas got ventus's heart when sora turned into a heartless. Sora just whines about friendship and goofs off while roxas, ventus, Terra, aqua, hell even riku went through much harder things and have died or nearly died just for soras happy go lucky, blissful innocence. Roxas is right, sora doesn't know what real hurt is and that's exactly why many other characters in the series are way better and way more suited to be the main protagonist than he is. But that's my opinion, if you have a different one then I don't really care, hate on my post all you want, I just wanted to voice what I thought.
Sora's actually aware of this completely at present. He knows it's because of them that he is who he is, and he firmly believes that Roxas deserves to be his own person.
DenisK21 who cares if sora is aware of this? Roxas lost both of his best friends and he lost himself just so sora could go goofing off. Roxas can't see any of his friends anymore, not xion, Axel, Hayner, pence or ollete ever again. Just because sora needed a few memories back. The organization and sora have both emotionally fucked roxas over. What's the worst thing that's happened to sora? He lost his friends for a game and a half then reunited with BOTH of them all while keeping Donald and goofie by his side. But roxas? He can forget about even existing or seeing any of his friends ever again because of sora.
rayn clinger Sora literally sacrificed his own heart to save someone else's, which is why Roxas even EXISTS. After joining with Roxas, he proceeded to risk life and limb fighting legions of darkness, Xehanort's operations, and the most evil villains Disney has to offer. And in the end of it all, Sora himself is determined to bring Roxas and others connected to him back from their sorrows and suffering. "Goofing off", my eye. Roxas's trials were never Sora's fault, they were Xehanort's, and Sora himself is among the ONLY people in-story to question whether their fates are really the right ones. I'm sorry, but this picture you're trying to paint of Sora has very little reflection with the truth of things.
DenisK21 The truth is that because sora is pretty much the ONLY protagonist besides Donald and goofy to be Disney oriented, he's supposed to be completely innocent, happy go lucky, preach about friendship, and not have dark things happen to him and yes I agree, because sora wanted to save kairi, roxas exist, however its because sora released all the hearts in him that ventus heart was made into roxas, aka pretty much ventus with amnesia. Let's not forget, even if you don't like roxas let's go back to the vent us subject, sora wouldn't even be a factor in the kingdom hearts game if it wasn't for ventus, riku was the original keyblade wielder for kingdom hearts one due to Terra not sora. Sora was only able to wield the keyblade at first thanks to ventus heart. Both ventus and roxas were sacrificed to the Disney Satan called sora. Both roxas and ventus are better characters. I'll give sora credit where its due, he helped create roxas by releasing ventus, he has saved worlds, however in the end of dream drop distance we find out he was a total pussy yet again as riku had to save him from the numerous xeanort clones. In the end of pretty much every kingdom hearts game SOMEONE had to bust their asses just to save sora. Whether it be ventus, roxas, namine, riku, king mickey or whoever, someone always has to save his ass when honestly he's only really worth for the hearts he has trapped inside him.
Roxas is truly one of the best characters in the series. His story feels so lonely, and we really feel it. Can't wait to see him come back in Kingdom Hearts 3
+Jake Rutigliano The thing you need to understand is that "pain" and "hurt" mean two entirely different things, especially in the Kingdom Hearts franchise. Pain is brief, sharp, and fleeting. Hurt is long-standing, often dull, and won't go away unless you force it to.
Jake Rutigliano Especially in the context that Vanitas uses it in, "suffering" in Kingdom Hearts is more physical than anything else. It's strange, but that's the way it is. As for "torment," I suppose it could be used, but generally that's a stronger word than "hurt," so only when describing extreme hurt could it be used. (Ex. "Sora, you are who you are because of those people, but they're hurting, and you're the only one that can end their torment. They need you") -aaah now I feel like a vocabulary teacher-
Yeah, I think you've got your words mixed up pal. Pain is what usually last for an extended period of time, and hurting, more often than not, last within time it was inflicted. So, I say this is more the result of noumura trying to make conversations sound more important then they actually are.
+Jack Song Sadly no Xion's death soon led to everyone forgetting about her but as shown in the series it seems that instead of forgetting the memories of her were locked away from everyone Roxas Is talking about everything that's happened he doesn't like the fact he can't "Be Himself" which is what he truly wants and what Sora want's for him. But yes he could indirectly implying the Hurt he went trough after putting down the one person he cared about more then anything else...I'm hoping Roxas and Xion are brought back in KHlll as Roxas's story is a very tragic and sad one that still hasn't ended.
The best thing of the DS version is that you only learn that it's Roxas in this scene, because since the game's not voice acted you never hear him talk, which makes the entire build-up to this fight absolutely astounding. But then again, Jesse McCartney outdid himself here, so there's no way in hell I'm complaining XD.
Roxas losing Xion really messed him up. He thinks that having feelings is just an obstacle that slows you down, and he wants to go on a quest for vengeance for Xion, while Sora tells him that he basically OWES it to Xion to carry that pain with him, for it reminds him of her, and to live for Xion. Roxas understood that eventually, and I think that's how he was able to form his own heart. Poor kid never asked for any of it; it just happened, and him having to come to terms with who he is, and his purpose, and eventually becoming his own person is why Roxas is my favorite character in KH. I love Sora, I think he's very awesome in his own right, but Roxas has an origin story, a background, conflicting goals, and on top of that, he fucking dual-wields.
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" I get it, you've seen through my disguise." reveals himself to be 2000's pop sensation Jesse McCartney
TheCatsMeow Lmao
Lmfao! This comment made my day.
Despite me knowing him from his great music career, he became one of my favorite voice actors ever
Mandy Moore was Aerith...:)
Aka Roxas
The line “It’s way past time you learned what real hurt feels like” is such a raw fucking line. This is exactly why Roxas is my favorite character
I dunno. Feels like he is being a bit of a bully; putting his pain into somebody else
@@jakeriese4862 I mean, most of the misfortune in Roxas' life is in some way because of Sora, Xion dies to recomplete Sora's memories, he has to give up existing for Sora, Axel dies in KH2 to save his butt. He gets repeatedly told he shouldn't exist to recomplete Sora, so of course he has a reason for being angry and hurt at him, Roxas barely even knew Sora but he had to lose so much for him. But their real selves made up with each other anyway, they're fine now
Smartest roxas fanboy/fangirl
"Defeat the mystery opponent"
This game has a funny way to insult your intelligence.
LMAO
They wanted to maintain the suspense hahaha
It's a mystery to sora..
Obviously, it's Saxor.
Not as good as the last boss of 358 days. Defeat the mysterious opponent, EXCEPT IT LITERALLY JUST SAYS RIKU ABOVE HIS DAMN HEALTH BAR!
@@FormalGibble sighhhh. It was common knowledge who that was at the time. They didnt try to hide it from the player. Its roxas who doesnt know who it is. These fights, they are in the perspective of the character you're playing as. Not from the perspective of the player. Does that make sense?
I love how Sora's incorruptible optimism clashes with Roxa's angry angst.
Yeaaah!!! Just purest heart ever
@@bleuorange3238 but isn't roxas a part of sora? He's not pure, just like water is. He's more like a cinnamon roll, hints of a darker side sprinkled in with his optimism.
The darkness being the cinnamon in this analogy, for those who will undoubtedly not get this.
Yes... roxa’s
Shadow snake remember when sore kills himself to save Kairi! He made a heartless while roxas aka soras nobody ended up in twilight town! Normally you would have to kill the heart less and the nobody to get the human back but kairis light saved sora. But he’s only half of what he was because he needs roxas to be whole again.
Pure optimism VS. Teen angst
Top 3 Roxas quotes
1. Hands off my friends!
2. Looks like my summer vacation is... over.
3. ITS WAY PAST TIME THAT YOU LEARNED WHAT REAL HURT FEELS LIKE!
@@arikatheprincessofhearts2043 look man he’s a nobody feeling emotions for the first time
@@arikatheprincessofhearts2043 oh sorry and I did answer your silly question
WHO ELSE WILL I EAT ICE CREAM WITH!!!!
4. Shut up!
Another “What are you talking about?! I AM ME! NOBODY ELSE!!!”
A digital copy of something that was already *literally* nothing.
How much more of a depressing existence could a character be shafted with?
People though you're someone, including yourself, but both of you are actually not technically the same,
Xion 2.0 and Xion 1.0
This game was my first kh game
Anonjoe oof same
@@anonjoeoof2113 I am so sorry
@@nyliakjackson8827 what's to be sorry about?
You cannot and WILL NOT deny that Jesse's performance is simply chilling, considering it's the first time we hear a KH character sound emotionally unstable.
His voice sounds so broken too and his eyes look dead yeah roxas is hands down the best character in kingdom hearts for me
@@baldmanvoices6323 His name is in the credits lol
@bob ross man when he says that line you can truly feel the anger in it he doesn't need to be roxas he already IS roxas
@bob ross I don't get the hate for re:coded, sure it has a weak story, but the gameplay is fun, better than 358/2 days for sure
@bob ross Nobody says recoded ruined the story, the main fucking complaint was that it added nothing to the story, but why would you give a shit about the story if it's fucking broken
"It's not a game!"
You are right. It's Kingdom Hearts.
Nobody laughed
+Real.kings 101
I did.
Real.kings 101 Nobody laughed at your google images' icon.
+XpertXero i wasnt tryna make anyone laugh freak
+Real.kings 101 Hi
"Defeat the mysterious oponent"
Okay, let's just all pretend we don't know that it is Roxas.
LMAO
Danniel I’ve played through the game this past week, I don’t think it ever clearly says “this is Roxas” it’s just kind of implied, especially because Roxas doesn’t seem to talk out loud most of the game. He’s keeps the hood up throughout the entire game, and you don’t actually see his face on the DS. Plus, to Data Sora, he’s never met or heard of Roxas, so to Data Sora, this is just some random dude with two Keyblades and a black coat. XD
Being perfectly honest, I actually didn't when I first played. But that was because I was a dumb stupid idiot and jumped into KH Re:Coded with the only other KH game I'd played at the time being the original.
Data Sora doesn’t know who he is. I think that’s what they were going for.
@@MuffinMythos
I think any doubts went out the window the second Roxas' theme from Days started and Oathkeeper appeared in his left hand. That was certainly when •I• knew it could only be Roxas under that hood.
"It's way past time that you learn what real hurt feels like!"
I felt that
@@arikatheprincessofhearts2043☝️He Was Never Wrong..
Roxas is hands down the best character in the series , so complex and awesome
+ferdyX93 Eh, I still like Xemnas more
+Soma Cruz Nah Riku and Kairi all the way
+ferdyX93 I completely agree.
+ferdyX93 I definitely agree
ultrahammerdude2 -_-
Roxas' voice actor is so good!
+SENzA It's Jesse McCartney hahaha
+WCamicase excuse me how do i play recoded? I used to own it and it was just the cinematic version
+WCamicase excuse me how do i play recoded? I used to own it and it was just the cinematic version
djswag3030 I used an emulator to play it with this quality, the playable version only exists on the DS
+WCamicase Can U Tell Me How To Get The Rom I Only Got KIngdom hearts re:coded not re:coded HD
Roxas: time to know what real hurt feels like
Sora: xion was not even real.
Roxas:who the hell is xion
Sora: me
Roxas brain started to hurt
Roxas starts crying and does not know why
Eventually, Roxas stopped thinking
I’m new here, so I don’t know if I’m missing something but, “real hurt” doesn’t make sense to me, I’m guessing the translation went wrong???
Does not compute, does not compute, system shut down.
RisingDarkness
No, assuming you're asking a genuine question and aren't joking, when he says 'real hurt' the context he's saying it in implies that Sora doesn't know how it feels to lose friends and not have a identity of his own like Roxas does. To just be a common assassin of a organization he didn't sign up for. To learn that he's apart of the very thing the Org has been trying to eradicate or control all this time. He's saying Sora doesn't know how it feels to struggle, basically, and that the pain he feels is just artificial and is only available for him to experience through Roxas' suffering.
"My first, and my last... Summer Vacation"
i will now proceed to cry my eyes out in a corner
Me too.
Ditto
Same
Can I join yoy guys...I brought ice cream
@@silentrosegirl6077 reckon so
Roxas has got to be the best character in KH. He has a good background and you really get to know him well. You feel his feelings along with him, I love him so much!
He is more of a somebody than Sora :P
But he does match well with Ven, I cannot decide who is better between the two of them :(
Well, thing about Ventus and Roxas is... we know EVERYTHING about them, pretty much. 358/2 Days was literally Roxas' entire life right there. Birth By Sleep explained who Ventus was and why he went to Sora.
Truth be told, it still doesn't make sense why Sora is so special. Yes, how Roxas and Namine were created from him, and how Sora can dual wield as well are explained, but why exactly is he ultimately the hero that will open the door to end everyone's hurt? Why was it that right after he was born, his heart could somehow make contact and restore Ventus' heart after it was damaged?
I'm hoping that we learn more. And Sora's had development himself as well. In DDD, he literally took all of Roxas's memories after Roxas gave it to him, and still he endured it and remained how he was, but somehow stronger in a sense, or his resolve was stronger. Only thing is, we don't see Sora actively showing the suffering he goes through often enough, so we compare him to Roxas and Ventus, who have gone through pain and torment that we know about.
Agreed. Sora feels like such a shallow character compared to Aqua, Ven, Terra, Riku, and Roxas.
The issue is sora is basically naruto, we have people who are dying left and right yet we have the protagonist who is an immature child who believes friendship is the key and answer to everything. And unfortunately that's true in kingdom hearts, then you have roxas who is fleshed out and pretty realistic on how people would act, he gets depressed, he gets sad and mad. Sora doesn't. Sora is literally always happy. Even when his friends may be fucking dead. when we're kids we don't really catch on to tropes like these, hence why most people when they're older prefer Roxas over Sora but when we're younger we like Sora.
Hanna Booklover it's kinda weird for a character with kinda doesn't have a heart can connect with our heart
Roxas: There's a place I'd like to be.
Sora: A place? Uh... where?
Roxas: INSIDE YOU
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.
Cue Tumblrtard and DeviantTartlets gasming all at once. xD
+DarsanUchiha Sora backs away awkwardly as Roxas approaches
+poopymcduck
For a moment there I read that you PRODUCED enough hentai to know where this was going
DarsanUchiha YASS
'Congratulations Sora you passed, you now understand hurt" Thank you sir, where can i get my license?
just go to your closet HMV and collect it there
LadyFall go right then make a left then go right and keep going and you'll see a locker and it says license plate and just find yours
Ryan Upchurch no, this takes place between 2 and dream drop distance, the other game is re:chain of memories.
LadyFall Also that is not the real Sora the real Sora is back on the island were it all started after the events of Kingdom Hearts 2 sorry Sora didn't learn anything.
LadyFall Still don't understand what's the relevance of this "hurt'
Roxas always sounds like he's ready to cry.
I wouldn't blame him. Dude's been through some shit man.
Marquel Lewis Well, yeah, but his voice is always either confused, sad, or angry. No normal.
also, hes a being of darkness, not really surprising that he exhibits darker emotions
@@kanaedesu63 He do sound normal when I was playing KH2.
@@QuanBrown27 in KH 2, he lost his memory at the start of the game. The reason of that because Ansem rewrite his memory so he forgot being one of the old organization xiii
I can literally feel Roxas' pain with every word of him....brings me to tears...
Same, such a great character.
+Adrian “Fahri” Fahrenheit I feel that same pain, knowing that Kingdom Hearts 3 wont be released until 2017 :(
+General Jimmies 2017?! fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!
+Adrian “Fahri” Fahrenheit It's even worse in KH2 Final Mix
same here
It’s kind of interesting how Roxas is visibly older than sora here.
Gon okay I thought it was only me who noticed, which is weird considering that they are supposed to be the same age
Its because this is Sora at the start of Rechain which was a year before Roxas's data was made.
YourBestRen oh OK that makes more sense
all the nobodies are technically older by a year or 2 of them normal counterparts
I mean.....this is KH1 Sora
"Congratulations Sora you passed, you now understand hurt."
That sounded so sarcastic and I don't know why.
I like how Roxas is just like, "Fuck, I can't hate this kid, screw this shit." :)
Yeah, who wouldn't like sora. He's just so nice to everyone he meets
@@xanethedarkwerehog Except the small guy from the land of dragons in kh2, he literally got punched because he asked what his problem was, though later he gained his respect.
@@Daltonisntabot there's also Xehanort, so he's had moments where he's mad
@@xanethedarkwerehog True, but he also gained his respect by the end, Sora seems to do that, even with the most hard headed people he meets, like the King from Atlantica. I guess Sora is just that good at earning respect where respect is due, even if that person is a violent or very untrusting personality.
Like in the second one as he saw sora sleeping he is like "oh shit nevermind, lemme wake him up"
"You make a good other"
...hm. If you say so.
well ventus
Ventus? Sorry, but you've got the wrong guy.
+Roxas Number XIII Ventus.......Terra is still fighting for you and Aqua never forger that
...ohhh. I get it now! Ventus and I have the same voice. But still, that doesn't mean we're the same Keyslinger.
This is probably the most underrated scene when it comes to Kingdom Hearts
How come no one whose into Kingdom Hearts talks about this
This really does add more character to both Roxas and Sora
Sora knowing how important pain is, to really understand what a person is going through
Roxas knowing that pain,actually teaches Sora about it so that way he'll understand people better
Its such an important scene for this reason
Probably cause it's not the real versions interacting
+WrenchNinja True, but I think Mickey tells the real Sora about the datascape.
+Undoubtedly Bendy He does, just not onscreen. Or at least we can assume that he does, since Mickey promised he would tell the real Sora and we don't expect Mickey to break a promise.
It's also important to note that Roxas teaching Sora about this pain is highly ironic, for a Nobody who is convinced he doesn't have emotions (much less, a data copy of a Nobody who is convinced he doesn't have emotions).
It also doesn't help that sora doesn't ever act like he knows what people are going through. He just says stuff about his friends and magically cheers everyone up.
I'm pretty sure cloud would fucking hate sora yet they make it seem like he likes him.
there are just so many great scenes in this franchise.
Roxas begs Sora to finish him off and finally put an end to the hurt that he's been suffering for so long. When Sora doesn't, he bitterly concedes that there's no point in destroying him, using his existence within the datascape as an allusion to his existence as a Nobody; someone that doesn't and shouldn't even exist.
Roxas has PTSD and depression
"What real hurt feels like" I bet he was talking about losing Xion.
Joe Moon and everything else that happened to him?
Who?
He couldn't remember Xion because everyone's memory of her disappeared as soon as Roxas defeated her and she vanished back into Sora's memories of Kairi
Wait who's this "Xion" you speak of?
Lil Mopbucket look up Roxas story if you don’t know
Only 5 health bars? Jesus, it makes all the grinding I put into 358/2 feel wasted
8 EXP for killing a Zip Slasher? Screw this shit!
items, m8, items
Would you ask the same thing about Vanitas's Lingering Spirit ?
*****
The quantity of health bar doesn't say if a boss is strong, you have the rare Lord Kyroo in KH3D and yet this boss isn't hard, but on the other side, you have VLS, who has only one health bar but is very strong and resistant.
***** They're strong and have lots of HP, plain simple.
Axel: Let's eat some ice-cream, we are best friends.
Roxas: You are right!
Axel and Roxas: hahahahahaha
I understand that reference XD
Players: this story was pointless because the real Sora was never connected to the data one's experiences.
Mickey: [EFF] you, I just broke my fingers writing the whole thing to tell him all about it!
LMAO
If nothing else, this game did give us some hits and info for Kingdom Hearts 3.
@@galenmalen3900 not really, no
@@Dreq458 You're right. Aside from the demonstration that data can become part of a heart (an additional hint to the true nature of Nobodies and a crucial step in saving the likes of Roxas), mentioning that people return when their Heartless are destroyed (do I even have to say what this led to?), directly linking the painful events of the past to the present (because that's WHY the whole Sleeping Worlds trip happened), this game's story gave us absolutely nothing.
Well, atleast arguably we could technically play as Data-Sora in KH3 ...
No one else.......really Picked up on the
"Theres no point in destroying something that never existed"
I just saw something that never actually was ment to exist cry out
I didn't notice that, I guess it's a reference to his real self.
Man, Roxas was so much more edgy in this game
It's not really roxas though, it's just a data copy created to test Data Sora
King Arthur Good point.
man, Data Roxas was so edgy in this game
joe velez he just had a glitch in his program. Emo.exe
Because he's bitter. He died exactly one year after he was born, he forgot his best friend, and will never be ABLE to remember her
probably because he has a lot of pain in his heart.
Interesting that Data Sora, the most "fake" Sora of all, was able to keep his heart from falling to darkness from all this, while the real Sora failed when faced with the same heartache.
data sora got (i guees) only the good things , since he could be created. unlike the "real" sora, where they couldnt change a thing
wow, jesse mccartney's voice work in this particular scene incredible, especially the 'its way past time you learned what real hurt feels like' line. he's shaped up to be the absolute best voice actor in the series by far.
Is Roxas evil in this game or he has PTSD?
Hes playing the role of guiding the data sora to namine as a test. Though the real hurt might be a bit of projection from forgetting xion@arikatheprincessofhearts2043
Absolutely love Roxas, easily my favorite character of the series. Such a tragic but memorable character. He inspires me to always never lose sight of who I really am, no matter how confused or lost I may become.
I understand, I do like Sora better though :p
@@wcamicase_gaming I understand also friend ^_^ Sora is an absolutely wonderful character and has a heart of gold.
Sad Part is....If only the original Sora could have been the one to say this to Roxas and understand the pain. Luckily DDD sorta takes care of this.
+Sora: King of Hearts. You said it, "sorta".
+Sora: King of Hearts. agree so sad if only this was real.
Edwin Valdez
Indeed
Ismael Párica
Why yes i did haha
"What are you talking about? I am ME! Nobody else!"
Roxas's voice in English version sound more aggressive but Japanese version sound like he almost cry. I think I like the both of them.
Same here!
Sora was so tiny back then, it makes Roxas look like a giant.
+GameMasterKyro XD ikr
Because data sora has the same body as kh 1 sora
Yes, that was the point I was making.
GameMasterKyro he looks 8 instead of 14
GameMasterKyro sora is like 5’2 in kh1
What really annoys me about this game is how much character development there is, but not at the same time. This is something the real Sora and Roxas can't share and bond over. Data Sora, who has the most character development and seeing and understanding people and feelings, doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. It's pure story telling for the player, and only wishing this was the Real Sora experiencing this! You can argue that this issue is somewhat settled in Dream Drop Distance, but I really wish he got the character development Data Sora got.
Right? This seriously should have been real Sora drifting through his memories or something. This entire game's story matters for nothing.
SmithSmithery The game's story does mean something, it's just the character development doesn't mean a whole lot. Data Sora had to have character development in order to access information that leads to Master Yen Sid needing to test Sora for the Mark of Mastery to see if really is ready to handle all that burden. It was also to tell players, even if Sora forgets, his heart will always remember which ends up staying true in DDD.
MrGameplay1001 c
MrGameplay ,
Yeah, this scene is amazing!! I wish this were the real Sora & Roxas...
I just want Data-Sora back in the future, maybe in a new form that resembles Sora's KH2 Outfit but still retained elements of his original KH1 Design (Maybe he's just always in KH2 Limit Form).
IGN: Nobody likes roxas.
Me: My ass.
Wait, did they actually say that?
@Repulsive I need a name. I can’t find and torture him if I don’t know who he is.
@@adamlong6711 i don’t really care for him that much either. I liked him until he came back. I think he should have stayed gone. Thats just me i guess thiugh
@@NessKwik0 you might want to run, not every Roxas fan has restraint of any kind.
@@adamlong6711 lol. Thanks for the advice. I better get going
My f*cking head hurts.
Granted, I understand it all but, dear God...
+Aidan Keogh Yes.I know how ya feel.
+Aidan Keogh so this is what ven and roxas felt when they regained their lost memories.
***** lol xD
+Aidan Keogh When I explain it to non fans I just say Xehanort is using a combination of time travel, possession, and a variety of chosen ones to become omnipotent.
I don't even bother explaining Roxas, Xion and the replica program, the first organization 13, Xehanorts heartless being a possessed Terra heartless who stole the identity from the real Ansem who is a benevolent king of Hollow Bastian formerly named Radiant Garden, Sora being a "safety net" chosen one pending Riku's choice who has since built up a resistance to darkness and could at one point transform into Terra-Xehanorts heartless Ansem, and how Nobody's can get a heart back, and how Namine was a hybrid nobody of Sora and Kairi who could manipulate their memories. And wait until I tell you about Ventus...
Basically this is a series of a million details.
That was literally my reaction when I finally understood the Kingdom Hearts lore.
It’s reasonable to say that Roxas’ theme is one of the best songs in KH series.
Defeat the mystery opponent
Mystery my ass, We all knew who He was before this came out.
It's only a mystery to those who had this game as their first game, or/and to Data Sora.
It's only a mystery to those who had this game as their first game, or/and to Data Sora.
This was my first Kingdom Hearts game so I had no idea who he was or what was going on :l
MrXemrox KH2 was my first game, so I knew it was Roxas cuz of his oathkeeper and oblivion keyblades
@@antonnycrown9663 Me too! This is what got me into the series!
"You can't handle all the hurt"
"Yes I can"
"No you can't"
"Yes I can"
"No you can't"
"Yes I can"
"You have defeated me"
The last line should be: "Okay! I believe you!"
Darkness
@@akirakilluar Please 😂😂😂
You gotta be kidding me. When I hear Xion's theme, it kills me. Damn, kids and their forgotten memories..
Wtf do you mean? Its roxas theme song.
I wasn’t ready for the tears, hearing Sora say “My first and my last... Summer Vacation.”
My favorite kingdom hearts scene, it taught me how to handle the pain in my heart. I could never forget what it showed me
I'm not crying. Someone threw acid into my eyes.
Medic!
+xRaineDropsx im not crying, there is just good pizza nearby
me too, WHERE IS THAT ACID THROWER?
Presumably? London.
well that's not nice
2:10 I've never played this game, but that line still gives me chills, and actually kinda hurts me; but it hurts in a good way. I know that sounds weird, but I don't know how else too explain it.
Yeah I feel ya
Everyone else: NO! SORA IS STRONGER! ROXAS ISN'T VEN!
Me: This fights has nice music
U were hoping people would laugh lmao nobody did
+Real.kings 101 what part? I was just stating what I saw in the comments. I got this game a little while ago and I do think the music is good....or this is my attempt to defend a dead joke.
It ain't right but it ain't wrong either 😂.
I've always said sora was stronger I would think he would be 🙄
+johnathan carr I am not to experienced; I have only played 358/2 days and part of recoded. From what I have seen from the kh2 fight, it looks to me like Roxas is stronger. Kinda just want to start an educated discussion instead of people shouting their opinions.
+Aias Adams I go off of the amount of things Sora has done, along with the fact Roxas would be as strong as sora was in Kh ( naturally) then you add his own feats he is incredibly powerful. Sora is stronger than he used to be by the end of KH2 Its fair to say he would likely be stronger. Not gameplay wise cause obviously you are the player. If we just use game cannon sora has beaten Roxas, Roxas had nothing to gain by holding back against him in recoded or KH2. Don't mean to rant but that's just how I see it, I like Riku the most but it's fair to say he is under Roxas and sora .
Roxas’ theme breaks my heart every time i hear it. The sense of longing and loss is heavy, especially with Roxas
It's beautiful
I understand how complex and how great Roxas was written. But Sora made a very great point about despite the pain, he can at least learn something from that pain. Making him just as greatly written as Roxas. It may not be much, but it’s definitely a good thing to look on to. This is why Sora is one of the best characters and like-able ones. Not many people see it though. Sadly, none of this is real, since this is just coded data or whatever. Its not the Real Sora nor Roxas.
Me : *just up grade to 1st class in school from Playground*
Teacher : *gives a lot of Homework*
Roxas : Congratulation , You Understand Hurt
Even worse, someone remembering the teacher that was indeed homework when you forgot to do it
Ah, Roxas... you're so god damn cool.
That's Roxas' same exact limit break ability from 358/2 days. Literally terrible for 1v1
They could have just gone with his normal limit break, not the dual wield one, and it would have been better.
3 years later, I know. But I think it's perfect. It shows how he's the strongest Light magic user in the series because only those with a pure and balanced heart can use it to that extent. So that means people like Ventus, Xion and Sora, maybe Kairi.
Even Mickey, Minnie, Yen Sid or Merlin haven't used magic hour like this. They're powerful in other ways, sure. But they lack the heart to use Light abilities like this.
Keep in mind this still is Roxas holding back a bit. He could potentially combine his limit break from kh2fM and in Days for another ultimate Light attack.
@@wakewind4129 that just sounds like a lot of roxas wanking to me lol
George Washington so a voice actor determines how much credit you give a character?
And no, he hasnt beat riku multiple times. They fought once, and when riku held back his darkness (his stronger side), he got the better of him. Once riku let loose and released it, he stomped him.
Also, sora and roxas are near the bottom of the totem pole of keyblade users. Bbs characters are all better and riku and Mickey as well. And before you say sora beat all the main baddies, he didnt do it alone. If it wasnt for riku in 2, he would have died many times over.
And when has roxas fought any XIII member other than xion (if that counts) and axel?
I like roxas but no need to put him up on a pedestal higher than he should be.
skaionex he fought Saix for sure when he left the organization. I can’t remember if he fought anyone else. But he definitely beat Saix
Sora is my spirit animal, he inspired me to stay true to me and be optimistic about life. I’m very glad this character exists
Agreed!
And roxas is my spirit animal, he inspired about me i feeling lonely and sad and tired and angry and also hate everything etc etc etc.
Directors in kh recoded:let’s make them have...4 bars of health
Directors kh3:Let’s put 20 bars
Quantity over quality though, the bars in this game were much more condensed than KHIII, generally speaking
Sora: "Are you going home?"
Roxas: "I don't know if I have one...but there's a place I'd like to be."
Me: YOUR HEART fuuuuuq all the feels man!!
'That hurt will drag you into the darkness'
looking at that line now, it's sad how prophetic that line was.
I like how when Xehanort says, "that is my destiny" referring to no name, Luxu gives a look. A look that says, "As if, bitch."
Oh shit tomotasauce hello there
Kinda fitting that you fight roxas at the station of sorrow
@Robbie Zee Could Somebody give me an empty background of Station of Sorrow? I can't find it anywhere!
You can tell Luxu is just waiting for an opportunity by the way he reacts when the young Xehanort says the ancient keyblade that his master of masters once owned I believe.
14:36 that look on Xigbar’s face cause he knows what’s up
"It's way past time that you learned what real hurt feels like" gets me every time.
I remember the absolute feeling of triumph when I finally beat Roxas as a kid. This was such a challenging fight and it took so long, but in the end it was worth it.
Dude you jus got me sad, miss bein a kid frr those where the days
I like how you put the Final Mix Cutscenes with the DS Boss that was Clever and this Video Deserves a Like👍🏾
Thanks!
"It's not a game!"
Um...you sure about that Roxas?
Man it's so irritating when people just phase inside of you and set up shop in your heart. They don't pay rent, never clean after themselves and they always spout nonsense about darkness or whatever. So Sora has like 4 people in his heart eating his food and using up his hot water?
This is what gets me about KH3, moments like this were prevalent leading up to it. Nomura digged the knife so deep.
-learning about xion
-learning about what happened to terra aqua and ventus
-roxas being the final boss of Recoded
-dark ventus being the final boss of DDD
-seeing roxas and xion again in DDD
You felt so bad for these characters and just wanted to save them. Then the third game comes around and you can do just that. But the way it does it is so unsatisfying. Like I got them back, but I wish I had worked a little harder at it or gotten them back gradually vs all at once.
Yeah I do agree with your last point a lot, I felt that it was so rushed and left to the end of the game.
This scene meant so much to me the first time I saw it...only a year ago, around this time.
I'd just lost a close companion...and then another close one was on their way shortly after...
I was experiencing a ton of emotional and mental pain at the time, and all at once...but after watching
this scene, something clicked in me...a lot of times when someone is grieving, they'll try to dismiss the pain,
or try to forget the incidents/loss that's occurred, or the individuals entirely. They'll try to put it all behind them,
wipe their own memories, because the hurt is too severe to acknowledge/handle...sometimes, that can break
a person, and put them in a very dark place...but I needed this scene...it helped me remember that trying to forget the pain,
or letting it throw you into darkness isn't the way...pain is a part of loving someone. Losing them
is tragic, but it's best to hold onto your memories of loved ones after, than trying to sweep them under
a mental rug entirely. It's better just to feel, grieve, and eventually accept the hurt...because it's better
to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all...I still deeply cherish the memories of those who are gone,
because they are a part of me...and my memories keep them alive in my head. They were worth the pain of loss in the end.
And remembering that after watching this scene was just what I needed to prevent me shelving my emotions away at the time, running away from them, and trying to become "numb" or "dismissive" of them. Plus, as Sora's interaction with Roxas at the end pointed out, the pain and experiences can become useful in empathizing and helping others who are going through the same things...That's the main reason (among others) that Re:Coded is my favourite Kingdom Hearts game!...I love anything that can teach me!
"It's way past time that you learnt what real hurt feels like"
ouch
Ugh. Roxas is my everything😭 i can never get over the falling friendship between Roxas, Axel and Xion.
Full blown snot crying...
I know the feeling
2:20 when TH-cam automatically lowers video quality
2:11 sora looks so done. He just like "really, were really gonna do this?"
1:57 BEST SCENE OF GAME
By the way the music is called
"The Other Promise"
*Just* *in* *case* you were wondering.
Nope. It's just "Roxas"
"The Other Promise" is a remix of "Roxas" made for KH2 Final Mix.
Y’all are talking about how it says “mystery opponent” when we know who it is, but it reminds me of when Roxas has to defeat the “mystery man” that *definitely* isn’t Riku with a bandanna.
1:50 geez, I know Roxas is one of two years older than KH1 Sora, but GEEZ, that's way too tall!
*or
+MageOfBlood haha true
Not true, tho they're "the same person" they still have different body's. I'm the same age as a friend of mine yet I'm way taller then him. it's normal :P, not trying to chew your out or anything ^-^
+Nano Shifter it still looks hilarious though.
MageOfBlood lol yep
"My first and my last... summer vacation. "
The only thing I don't like about this game is Teen Sora's Voice coming from Kid Sora's mouth.... I just find it a bit weird.
***** Yeah, but the Data-Sora is still the 14 year old Sora. Kinda sad we don't have Sora's old voice actor back.
*****
Oh, thats even more sad.
Ultimak Same here until I felt like that Kid Sora's voice was Sora when he was 14 and IMO he sounded more like he was 10 or 11. When Haley voiced Sora again, the character was 15. Sure, it's weird that we're hearing KH2 Sora in the model of KH1 Sora in Re:COM, Re:C and 3D but in a way he sounds more like a teen IMO.
No. Sora was 14 like I said.
+dnmstarsi Sora's voice actor was also 14 when he first did Sora's voice.
Jessie McCartney's voice acting has improved so much since KH2.
I mean his voice acting was great before, but gosh damn you can really hear the emotion in 2:10
So I've played through kh 3 now and I still think that this was the best synchronization performance in the series, Jesse McCartney is just incredible I can't
and with this secret ending thus began the beginning of the end of a reasonable plot in KH.
Yooooooo, (Kh3 spoilers ahead) Did you see how Braig/Luxu squinted his eyes when they were talking about the MoM keyblade? Totally an early hint Braig was connected somehow.
PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to what Braig says here, especially after knowing KHIII's ending!
Roxas is a much better character than sora in my opinion, roxas went through losing his best friends and his technical family in organization xiii just because some assholes decided he didn't get to live because he "didn't have a heart" when its pretty obvious that roxas got ventus's heart when sora turned into a heartless. Sora just whines about friendship and goofs off while roxas, ventus, Terra, aqua, hell even riku went through much harder things and have died or nearly died just for soras happy go lucky, blissful innocence. Roxas is right, sora doesn't know what real hurt is and that's exactly why many other characters in the series are way better and way more suited to be the main protagonist than he is. But that's my opinion, if you have a different one then I don't really care, hate on my post all you want, I just wanted to voice what I thought.
Sora's actually aware of this completely at present. He knows it's because of them that he is who he is, and he firmly believes that Roxas deserves to be his own person.
rayn clinger Roxas is my favorite character in the entire franchise. XD Speak the truth dude! I agree with you.
DenisK21 who cares if sora is aware of this? Roxas lost both of his best friends and he lost himself just so sora could go goofing off. Roxas can't see any of his friends anymore, not xion, Axel, Hayner, pence or ollete ever again. Just because sora needed a few memories back. The organization and sora have both emotionally fucked roxas over. What's the worst thing that's happened to sora? He lost his friends for a game and a half then reunited with BOTH of them all while keeping Donald and goofie by his side. But roxas? He can forget about even existing or seeing any of his friends ever again because of sora.
rayn clinger
Sora literally sacrificed his own heart to save someone else's, which is why Roxas even EXISTS.
After joining with Roxas, he proceeded to risk life and limb fighting legions of darkness, Xehanort's operations, and the most evil villains Disney has to offer. And in the end of it all, Sora himself is determined to bring Roxas and others connected to him back from their sorrows and suffering. "Goofing off", my eye.
Roxas's trials were never Sora's fault, they were Xehanort's, and Sora himself is among the ONLY people in-story to question whether their fates are really the right ones.
I'm sorry, but this picture you're trying to paint of Sora has very little reflection with the truth of things.
DenisK21 The truth is that because sora is pretty much the ONLY protagonist besides Donald and goofy to be Disney oriented, he's supposed to be completely innocent, happy go lucky, preach about friendship, and not have dark things happen to him and yes I agree, because sora wanted to save kairi, roxas exist, however its because sora released all the hearts in him that ventus heart was made into roxas, aka pretty much ventus with amnesia. Let's not forget, even if you don't like roxas let's go back to the vent us subject, sora wouldn't even be a factor in the kingdom hearts game if it wasn't for ventus, riku was the original keyblade wielder for kingdom hearts one due to Terra not sora. Sora was only able to wield the keyblade at first thanks to ventus heart. Both ventus and roxas were sacrificed to the Disney Satan called sora. Both roxas and ventus are better characters. I'll give sora credit where its due, he helped create roxas by releasing ventus, he has saved worlds, however in the end of dream drop distance we find out he was a total pussy yet again as riku had to save him from the numerous xeanort clones. In the end of pretty much every kingdom hearts game SOMEONE had to bust their asses just to save sora. Whether it be ventus, roxas, namine, riku, king mickey or whoever, someone always has to save his ass when honestly he's only really worth for the hearts he has trapped inside him.
Roxas uses that same moveset for duel wield in 365 days
+Victor Litchfield weird name
@@hajimemehinata8171 ooo burn 3yrs late
Hayd M wtf is this
@@hajimemehinata8171 good question
Roxas is truly one of the best characters in the series. His story feels so lonely, and we really feel it. Can't wait to see him come back in Kingdom Hearts 3
Seeing Braig's eyes (excuse me, eye) when Young Xehanort mentions Master Xehanort's keyblade, now that we know who he is, takes on a whole new meaning
So deeply emotive and complex. Beautiful
Wouldn't sound less stilted to use "pain" instead of "hurt"? Because I don't believe the context of Kingdom Hearts was meant for a younger audience.
+Jake Rutigliano The thing you need to understand is that "pain" and "hurt" mean two entirely different things, especially in the Kingdom Hearts franchise. Pain is brief, sharp, and fleeting. Hurt is long-standing, often dull, and won't go away unless you force it to.
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What about "suffering" or "torment", would it sound less stilted if they used those words as well?
Jake Rutigliano Especially in the context that Vanitas uses it in, "suffering" in Kingdom Hearts is more physical than anything else. It's strange, but that's the way it is.
As for "torment," I suppose it could be used, but generally that's a stronger word than "hurt," so only when describing extreme hurt could it be used. (Ex. "Sora, you are who you are because of those people, but they're hurting, and you're the only one that can end their torment. They need you")
-aaah now I feel like a vocabulary teacher-
Yeah, I think you've got your words mixed up pal. Pain is what usually last for an extended period of time, and hurting, more often than not, last within time it was inflicted. So, I say this is more the result of noumura trying to make conversations sound more important then they actually are.
NTG,
Okay, I'm confused!! Which words mean what? Hurt, pain, suffering, etc. in 'Kingdom Hearts' are...?
Luxu/Xigbar be like "Bitch give me back my keyblade" @14:41
When Roxas says, "It's way past time you learned what real hurt feels like!" Is he referring to the lost of his best friend, Xion?
+Jack Song Sadly no Xion's death soon led to everyone forgetting about her but as shown in the series it seems that instead of forgetting the memories of her were locked away from everyone
Roxas Is talking about everything that's happened he doesn't like the fact he can't "Be Himself" which is what he truly wants and what Sora want's for him.
But yes he could indirectly implying the Hurt he went trough after putting down the one person he cared about more then anything else...I'm hoping Roxas and Xion are brought back in KHlll as Roxas's story is a very tragic and sad one that still hasn't ended.
+Tony Redgrave
They're insinuating that Xion has a sliver of a chance coming back through Sora.
+MrVince329 I know
read the rest of my post please.
+Tony Redgrave haha. whoops. my bad
+Jack Song Or the lose of Xion and Axel. or any of the other crap he had to go through.
well done sir keep up the good content
+Bryan Delfino thank you!!
So Master Xehanort is coming back huh.
WHA!? ROXAS FROM THE DATASCAPE IS MADE OF DATA!?
Pat Daddy Roxas, in my view, is not as aggressive as he is in Kingdom Hearts 2
UltimateDualWield Roxas DONT TRY TO GET THE ULTIMA KEYBLADE!! DONT TRY IT
UltimateDualWield Roxas yeah roxas is no aggresive in kindom hearts 2
and is my favorite i just love roxas
Anthony Abreu "People die when they are killed"
Brethren Toons naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
My first and my last.... Summer Vacation.
sora: looks at oathkeeper
sora: DID YOU STEAL MY CHARM
roxas: noooooo ... :3
sora: IM GONNA SHOW U WHAT REAL HURT FEELS LIKE
roxas : THATS MY LINE XD
Desi T 75 likes 2 years ago 1 reply seems legit ._.
Desi T u got 2 now
Desi T nah 3 are better
Nah 5.
im gonna screw this up by not saying a number
Roxas: It's way past time that you learned what real pain feels like!
Roxas was always my favorite
The best thing of the DS version is that you only learn that it's Roxas in this scene, because since the game's not voice acted you never hear him talk, which makes the entire build-up to this fight absolutely astounding.
But then again, Jesse McCartney outdid himself here, so there's no way in hell I'm complaining XD.
Roxas losing Xion really messed him up. He thinks that having feelings is just an obstacle that slows you down, and he wants to go on a quest for vengeance for Xion, while Sora tells him that he basically OWES it to Xion to carry that pain with him, for it reminds him of her, and to live for Xion.
Roxas understood that eventually, and I think that's how he was able to form his own heart. Poor kid never asked for any of it; it just happened, and him having to come to terms with who he is, and his purpose, and eventually becoming his own person is why Roxas is my favorite character in KH. I love Sora, I think he's very awesome in his own right, but Roxas has an origin story, a background, conflicting goals, and on top of that, he fucking dual-wields.
Does Roxas have PTSD after Xion died?