My favorite thing about Larry is he always speaks in terms of us and the team including him. He will be the frist to tell you he's wasn't good enough when things went wrong. He takes accountability and can look at himself honestly. Probably why he was so respected by players and other coaches alike.
Don't get suckered by this interview. He's so reviled by a lot of players, maybe not openly but ask the 2004 Olympic team. Even David Stern was forced to criticize him for blaming his teams for his losses. The 2005 Knicks debacle was 95% his fault because he was still holding a grudge against Marbury for the 2004 Olympics debacle. Jalen Rose has an anecdote about how Larry Brown tried to get him out of the league for such trivial reasons. Larry Brown has a veneer of "niceness' but he's rotten to the core.
Bottom line is Larry Brown should have never forced his way out of Detroit. He did some great work with the Clippers, Pacers, Sixers, and Pistons but he damaged his legacy the way he handled his departure in Detroit. Won a championship with the Pistons and had a great situation then forced the Pistons to fire him because he wanted the Knicks job and found out the grass isn't greener on the other side. Brown has nobody to blame but himself.
He's still done more with less than any coach in NBA history. Even with A.I. no way that 6ers team shoulda made the finals and no the pistons team was supposed to win a chip
Look at his entire career, he didn't stay in any one place for very long. That Pistons team would have won 1 or even 2 more Rings if LB stays. Your 💯. His ego was / is his worst enemy.
@@Barnabas555 It''s funny you mention Carmelo and Darko because I still to this day have people want to tell me that the Pistons would have won 3 straight titles or whatever with carmelo and I say you're playing fantasy basketball or NBA 2K. In real basketball, chemistry means a whole hell of a lot, oh and this thing called defense! Yeah if you were going to play for Larry Brown's Pistons you kind of have to play defense, something Carmelo Anthony refuses to do. So I'm not sure how that would have worked out. I've always hated Carmelo. Guys Soo overrated.
This just confirms the idea in life you can't just be excellent at your craft (here, coaching), you must also make sure you get the conditions right for your work to be optimal. In this case, you need to be pals with ownership, GMs etc. even if they're unlikable.
This statement is so true. It takes a perfect storm to be great. I've learned this the hard way. Since that lesson its made me set up the storm before trying to become great at anything. Best lesson in life to me.
"james dolan is a great owner" NO. I'm a 40 yr knick fan and while I can see guys like larry thinking he's a great owner because he will give you buckets of money for short term work (see also phil jackson, derek fisher and others), but he has been a terrible NBA owner for success and the fans.
Outside of Dan Snyder there is no worse owner in pro sports than James Dolan. In his tenure the Knicks have the worse record in the NBA. That says it all.
@@MrAitraining - and right on time. All them people who booed Joe Lacob that night in Golden State, I want to know where all of them been the last decade?! Don't talk that talk when your team is down the get hoarse yelling when they win.
A great coach, won a title with Detroit, and with few more good pieces around A.I.,probably would have gotten back to the finals with Philly, and probably would have won another title.
Larry Brown has been wrong on talent evaluation numerous times: Jalen Rose, Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Stephon Marbury. It's an uncomfortable fact.
@@DMalltheway I don't understand it. Because 2004 USA was an all time epic fail. Outside of the people in Detroit: that failure on that team was one of the worst things ever happened in sports. All them dudes won championships or had HOG careers - except for Stephon - who was playing great BEFORE that team, and his run in with Brown was enough to destroy his career and reputation! GOD bless China for showing him love and getting his name back, but every should know by now: Stephon Marbury WAS RIGHT!
@@exclamationpointman3852 If Detroit drafted Carmelo or Bosh, Larry Brown wouldn’t use them and ruin their development like what he did not playing LeBron and Carmelo at the 2004 Olympics.
@@exclamationpointman3852 Larry Brown was stubborn and refused to play rookies especially on an established Detroit team that honestly Rick Carlalile would’ve done better.
@@DMalltheway 100%! It's amazing, all this time I was thinking Wallace and the Positions over achieved to beat the stacked Lakers; now I'm starting to think they won IN SPITE of Larry! And Rick set that team up to win, who eventually did with the Maverick. Sorry I don't mean to pile on the guy, what's done is done.
Huh?!? Forced his way out of a championship team and stabbed the whole organization in the back to green grass Knicks that he utterly messed up and had to get rid of him in one year??? Wah you talking about, man????
larry brown DID NOT win olympic gold as team usa coach in 2004, how do you not win when you have the best players in the world by a mile????? that fact alone tells you everything you need to know about LB
Jamea Bowawer Wade, Melo, James,... Benched despite playing a full season in the pros tearing shit up. Because brown don't play rookies. Has nothing to do with overseas pros. Those 3 dudes were terrors on that basketball court who deserved to play. The same reason Brown didn't want to draft Melo or Wade...
Carlos Tejeda Phil Jackson had Jordan and Kobe and he really didn't coach much. Every time you saw Phil Jackson during a game he just sat his ass right in his chair just chillin. I would take Larry Brown, Pop, Pat Riley over Phil Jackson
He was an awful coach and a snake. Scrutinize all of his talent he ever had. The Media always thought he was a victim. Got a bunch of chances and got lucky with the pistons. A two face snake in the grass.
Id have Larry Brown coach my team anyday. Theres a lot of guys that can win at one place. Larry Brown won almost everywhere he went. The guy is an amazing coach, who always taught his players to play the game the right way. My only regret is he didnt win a championship here in Philly.
Larry Brown is right. Isiah Thomas didn’t let him do his job. He’s forgetting 1 part, though. Steve Mills and James Dolan didn’t let Larry do his job, either. To add insult to injury, it was Mills who pushed for us to hire Isiah. I really wish that Larry had Isiah fired and had taken full control of the Knicks as both the general manager and the head coach. I still prefer Phil Jackson, though. Dolan and Mills didn’t let Phil do his job, either.
Larry Brown's basic fundamental believes in how the game should be played is his most strongest assets as a coach. He is not afraid to discipline any player that doesn't play to his standards but he had his faults as a coach as well. He really wasn't great in developing younger players as he aged and could devestate players confidence. Overrall he was a great coach just not a perfect coach. Our current Knicks need a little more Larry Brown with fizdales patience.
He was a horrible coach. Now he's very knowledgeable about the game but coaching is more than X's and O's. He wasn't good about forming and maintaining relationships, that's why he clashed with so many players and laid that giant goose egg in the 2004 Athens Olympics. How many coaches would have failed with Lebron, Wade, Melo, Tim Duncan, on their roster?
@Ben Dover from my perspective he seems to genuinely hate white people, black people and women. He just kinda makes me uneasy. How genuine and articulate he can be one minute and then how in the next interview he can politely and eloquently throw his team (players/coaches) under the bus. It's all back handed compliments w/ him I feel?
Role boundaries issues. Gms should not coach they should trust the coaching vision as to how to assemble the " complimentary talents" the coach desires and go out and get them. Make the trades, do the talent evaluation with the coaches input , take the best available draft choice who fits that complimentary scheme. Larry went on to win in Detroit. HE has won everywhere except in NY. Part of that cities franchise problem is the media fishbowl that dissects every game every hiccup as if it's the day after Armageddon. People on the street draw the wrong conclusions sometimes from the media portrayal gms, players , coaches are expected to have to performed to the highest level yesterday . The expectations are so high especially when some salaries are unjustifiable. I think the media circus 🎪 contributed to the early trigger on Larry Thomas and Dolan feeling the heat. Patience is not a Virtue in nyc . You've heard of the ny minute ? It's more like 10 seconds.
I like Larry Brown, but very unfair for him to call his 2005-06 Knicks team terrible. Most of these players were still in their prime: Trevor Ariza Matt Barnes Jamal Crawford Eddy Curry Antonio Davis Steve Francis Channing Frye Anfernee Hardaway David Lee Stephon Marbury Quentin Richardson Nate Robinson Jalen Rose Malik Rose
It's a fair point. But it's kinda like the D-wade, Jimmy Butler, and Rondo roster of the Bulls. Yes...those are GREAT players. But....how do they fit together?? I have a ball dominant "point guard" and 3 solid 3 and D guys (Ariza, Barnes, and Frye). I have a broken down Penny Hardaway 12 years into the league who will probably want the ball in his hands. I don't have a center or power forward that I can rely on to get me a bucket like a post player should be able to do...I have a couple of "enforcers." And then I have Jalen Rose and Nate Robinson. Build that team on NBA2k and tell me how you make that team win games?? You have one guy that can get you 15ppg and the other guys you bought b/c their names are big and recognizable. Not trying to be aggressive....your point is valid. I just very, very angry when I see front office guys who "shop while they're hungry" and give the coach all "main dishes." I can't make a meal out of 3 lbs. of steak. I need potatoes....vegetables aka complimentary players!!!
That's what he does. Blames everybody but himself, when things are bad, and takes credit when things are good. That's how he was able to hop around the league and get these high profile jobs.
Clearly, Larry B was a failure with NYK but it wasn't totally his fault. Isiah Thomas was also a major part of the problem since he was the one who built that dysfunctional roster (something a HC never has control over).
One of the biggest mistakes in Knicks history. Larry won everywhere we went. But we did have players on that team and Larry should’ve worked better with them. Isaiah was mostly only good at drafting
Great insight on the limitations of a organization if the department's are not on the same page. In hindsight, under Isiah, the Knicks were run into the ground and overrun with a sex scandal. Isiah killed a chance to let Brown upgrade and work his ledgendary turn around magic for success. To this day, the stifling actions of this period curtailed the momentum which hurts the team until this day. Knick fans hate Isiah for bringing unnecessary scandal and non winning to NYC. Now, the coach(former successful Sun) was fired for not succeeding with a tanking mode team. Players and coaches have stayed away from N.Y. to play. Hopefully, this will change to get a team the tri state and nation will be proud of in the future. These days, a good gm can go to local ny playgrounds and gyms to make up a better team than currently exist.
Isiah Thomas has a great eye for young talent. He did a good job in Toronto and Indiana but he did a real shitty job with the Knicks... I disagree with Larry Brown. He would not have won with that terrible ass roster
E Boogie IMO Isiah ruined Indiana... he had more talent available than Bird, but instead of taking the Pacers back to the Finals... they never made it out of the first round.
he mentions that he wanted to make changes which they did down the road. he implied that if he stayed long enough and they listened and trusted him to make the changes that they wouldve been a better team.
All he tried to do in New York was go over isaiah's head and try to take his job with Dolan. Brown is full of shit. Had he been a black coach he would of exiled from the NBA years ago. Would have never had the same chances. He came to NY to look for office power thats it. I don't see anyone building statues for him. Like they did for Marbury. He was an awful coach who couldn't win with one of the most dominent players i've ever seen in Iverson. This parasite vilified all the talent that was ever around him. Got lucky to inherit that good Piston team.
Who is the one coach who led the Clippers to two straight playoff appearances in the 90s of all era. Who is the person who delivered sixers 5 best years. Who set the current culture of the spurs and pacers. Had larry had enough time (like pop said in the settlement court hearing in 2007) he would have turned them around.
Marc Regal Zeke was overly scrutinized in NY. For an Anucha incident, in which he was found not guilty. Ass hole Mike Lupica and other shit writer wrote alot of garbage on Zeke. Even went after his family. The only player to beat Jordan, Magic and Bird. He had a great Eye for talent T-Mac, Nate Robinson. David Lee & Channing Frye have rings, who were discovered by Isaiah. Stephon Marbury had a country build him a statue. Young Trevor Ariza who Larry almost broke his confidence , became a champion elsewhere. smooth talker Larry Brown holds the record for the most changed starters in one season. That's the record he broke as a knick. I do the homework and do not falter to media garbage especially when it's unwarranted. As a "Black Man" you should take pride in Isaiah Thomas's accomplishments. A true GREAT. It truly saddens me that you don't see it this way. Think about it Joe Dumars is still in office and Larry doesn't have an NBA job insight. Who's really wrong here???
Marc Regal Zeke was overly scrutinized in NY. For an Anucha incident, in which he was found not guilty. Ass hole Mike Lupica and other shit writer wrote alot of garbage on Zeke. Even went after his family. The only player to beat Jordan, Magic and Bird. He had a great Eye for talent T-Mac, Nate Robinson. David Lee & Channing Frye have rings, who were discovered by Isaiah. Stephon Marbury had a country build him a statue. Young Trevor Ariza who Larry almost broke his confidence , became a champion elsewhere. smooth talker Larry Brown holds the record for the most changed starters in one season. That's the record he broke as a knick. I do the homework and do not falter to media garbage especially when it's unwarranted. As a "Black Man" you should take pride in Isaiah Thomas's accomplishments. A true GREAT. It truly saddens me that you don't see it this way. Think about it Joe Dumars is still in office and Larry doesn't have an NBA job insight. Who's really wrong here???
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2004 Olympics you fucking lose benching players because you didn't get alone with.
My favorite thing about Larry is he always speaks in terms of us and the team including him. He will be the frist to tell you he's wasn't good enough when things went wrong. He takes accountability and can look at himself honestly. Probably why he was so respected by players and other coaches alike.
Don't get suckered by this interview. He's so reviled by a lot of players, maybe not openly but ask the 2004 Olympic team. Even David Stern was forced to criticize him for blaming his teams for his losses. The 2005 Knicks debacle was 95% his fault because he was still holding a grudge against Marbury for the 2004 Olympics debacle. Jalen Rose has an anecdote about how Larry Brown tried to get him out of the league for such trivial reasons. Larry Brown has a veneer of "niceness' but he's rotten to the core.
I will always be grateful of years, coach came to Indiana, he turned my blue n gold to a beast in the east, thanks coach
Umm, Bird did that bro
I remember Trevor Ariza wanted more playing time and Brown called me “delusional”. We drafted championship players that won rings with other teams.
Great interview GB. Larry Brown speaking that truth.
Bottom line is Larry Brown should have never forced his way out of Detroit. He did some great work with the Clippers, Pacers, Sixers, and Pistons but he damaged his legacy the way he handled his departure in Detroit. Won a championship with the Pistons and had a great situation then forced the Pistons to fire him because he wanted the Knicks job and found out the grass isn't greener on the other side. Brown has nobody to blame but himself.
He's still done more with less than any coach in NBA history. Even with A.I. no way that 6ers team shoulda made the finals and no the pistons team was supposed to win a chip
As Pistons fan we know all about this special bum
Look at his entire career, he didn't stay in any one place for very long. That Pistons team would have won 1 or even 2 more Rings if LB stays. Your 💯. His ego was / is his worst enemy.
@@chadneumann2772 Plus the guy hated Darko and didn't want/try to develop him...He wanted Carmelo the guys a schmuck!
@@Barnabas555 It''s funny you mention Carmelo and Darko because I still to this day have people want to tell me that the Pistons would have won 3 straight titles or whatever with carmelo and I say you're playing fantasy basketball or NBA 2K. In real basketball, chemistry means a whole hell of a lot, oh and this thing called defense! Yeah if you were going to play for Larry Brown's Pistons you kind of have to play defense, something Carmelo Anthony refuses to do. So I'm not sure how that would have worked out. I've always hated Carmelo. Guys Soo overrated.
This just confirms the idea in life you can't just be excellent at your craft (here, coaching), you must also make sure you get the conditions right for your work to be optimal. In this case, you need to be pals with ownership, GMs etc. even if they're unlikable.
This statement is so true. It takes a perfect storm to be great. I've learned this the hard way. Since that lesson its made me set up the storm before trying to become great at anything. Best lesson in life to me.
Larry finally found out how it felt when somebody treats u like a piece of shit!! #KarmaFotThatAss
If Isaiah Thomas was a funeral director, nobody would ever die.
Ooooh, that's a good one!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
"james dolan is a great owner" NO. I'm a 40 yr knick fan and while I can see guys like larry thinking he's a great owner because he will give you buckets of money for short term work (see also phil jackson, derek fisher and others), but he has been a terrible NBA owner for success and the fans.
Outside of Dan Snyder there is no worse owner in pro sports than James Dolan. In his tenure the Knicks have the worse record in the NBA. That says it all.
He said was not is.
You were saying?
@@exclamationpointman3852 really dude? 6 yrs later you reply.
@@MrAitraining - and right on time.
All them people who booed Joe Lacob that night in Golden State, I want to know where all of them been the last decade?! Don't talk that talk when your team is down the get hoarse yelling when they win.
A great coach, won a title with Detroit, and with few more good pieces around A.I.,probably would have gotten back to the finals with Philly, and probably would have won another title.
Larry Brown has been wrong on talent evaluation numerous times: Jalen Rose, Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Stephon Marbury. It's an uncomfortable fact.
how was he wrong on carmelo and marbury? :D those are busts ... even Lebron is a bust if u compare it to his talent
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Daniel Teutsch
You don’t know basketball.
Dont forget AI
Daniel Teutsch LEBRON, MELO and MARBURY... Busts? You stupid ass fuck bruh.. go sit your dumb ass down somewhere
I love your video's. Larry Brown seems like a good man.
he just have poor judgement of character.
Case-in-point: James Dolan, who is pure trash.
I wished he would have won one more with the Pistons!!!
Yes me 2
So close...
2005 was so.close loose in final
I am calling bs on Larry brown. He knew what the Knicks roster looked like when he left the Pistons.
larry's job is to win 54 games and then go to a different team.
U need to do one with kwame brown
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Yeah, but might be a very short segment... 😂😂😂
Stephen A. Smith would say "that's blasphemous" when Larry Brown said "James Dolan is a great owner".
WillieIIIreborn Why are you mad? Lol
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Roster wasn’t bad. It was enough to win 35 even. Marbury , Crawford, Richardson, Jalen Rose, Eddy Curry.
Choppers... your wrong and here’s why.... SAS.....
@@choppersman08 James Dolan is pure trash. How is that even up for debate???
Tell us about the 2004 Olympic team, Larry. JFC. Worst coaching job in the history of the game of basketball.
And won a chip the same year.
@@DMalltheway I don't understand it. Because 2004 USA was an all time epic fail. Outside of the people in Detroit: that failure on that team was one of the worst things ever happened in sports. All them dudes won championships or had HOG careers - except for Stephon - who was playing great BEFORE that team, and his run in with Brown was enough to destroy his career and reputation! GOD bless China for showing him love and getting his name back, but every should know by now:
Stephon Marbury WAS RIGHT!
@@exclamationpointman3852 If Detroit drafted Carmelo or Bosh, Larry Brown wouldn’t use them and ruin their development like what he did not playing LeBron and Carmelo at the 2004 Olympics.
@@exclamationpointman3852 Larry Brown was stubborn and refused to play rookies especially on an established Detroit team that honestly Rick Carlalile would’ve done better.
@@DMalltheway 100%!
It's amazing, all this time I was thinking Wallace and the Positions over achieved to beat the stacked Lakers; now I'm starting to think they won IN SPITE of Larry! And Rick set that team up to win, who eventually did with the Maverick. Sorry I don't mean to pile on the guy, what's done is done.
the knicks set this man up for failure
Really Nigga?
Dumbass
Exactly
Huh?!?
Forced his way out of a championship team and stabbed the whole organization in the back to green grass Knicks that he utterly messed up and had to get rid of him in one year??? Wah you talking about, man????
This guy is a good interviewer. He listens, he lets ppl talk.
I'd LOVE to see a round two with Larry Brown on the Knicks in SOME capacity.
he's a coach at Memphis...crazy he is 82 now n still coachin
Not only will that never happen - it won't happen on all the other bridges he burned! That ought to tell you something
1 of the best NBA coaches of all time...
@VEE PEE I also would add KC Jones from the Celtics into the conversation.
@@LordStanley94 never really got to see him coach but I can dig it
not really
@@matthewalkman386 and your opinion is based on what?
@Ian 🤷🏿♂️
Larry could not get Indiana to the finals much less NY.
"James Dolan was a great owner" said no one ever. Larry Brown was a very good coach....but I'm beginning to question his sanity lol
The knicks are even worse now, since 2000 they have the worst winning percentage than any other NBA franchise.
I wonder who he wanted to trade and who he wanted to get in return for them
larry brown DID NOT win olympic gold as team usa coach in 2004,
how do you not win when you have the best players in the world by a mile????? that fact alone tells you everything you need to know about LB
aepr84
college players against foreign pros was not a level playing field and it gave way to our pros getting pay back in hoops.
Jamea Bowawer Wade, Melo, James,... Benched despite playing a full season in the pros tearing shit up. Because brown don't play rookies. Has nothing to do with overseas pros. Those 3 dudes were terrors on that basketball court who deserved to play. The same reason Brown didn't want to draft Melo or Wade...
That's on the players, best team in the world doesn't win the game? Not the coaches fault.
2004, you mean the year he won the NBA Finals coaching the Pistons?
@@JK-br1mu if the Pistons selected Melo back in 03 he would have been another Darko
Larry "I'm always the victim" Brown
He quit
Isaiah Thomas is a trouble maker plane and simple
Interesting!
If this is true, why would a dream team select a divisive, back stabbing guy which inhibits growth.
To me him and Greg Popovich are the greatest coaches in this era of basketball (without taking away Phil Jackson's success)..
Coach K??
I was referring to NBA coaches.
jackson had kobe and mj, that made it easy for phil; brown is a real coach...
Carlos Tejeda Phil Jackson had Jordan and Kobe and he really didn't coach much. Every time you saw Phil Jackson during a game he just sat his ass right in his chair just chillin. I would take Larry Brown, Pop, Pat Riley over Phil Jackson
He was an awful coach and a snake. Scrutinize all of his talent he ever had. The Media always thought he was a victim. Got a bunch of chances and got lucky with the pistons.
A two face snake in the grass.
Id have Larry Brown coach my team anyday. Theres a lot of guys that can win at one place.
Larry Brown won almost everywhere he went. The guy is an amazing coach, who always taught his players to play the game the right way.
My only regret is he didnt win a championship here in Philly.
Larry Brown is right. Isiah Thomas didn’t let him do his job. He’s forgetting 1 part, though. Steve Mills and James Dolan didn’t let Larry do his job, either. To add insult to injury, it was Mills who pushed for us to hire Isiah. I really wish that Larry had Isiah fired and had taken full control of the Knicks as both the general manager and the head coach. I still prefer Phil Jackson, though. Dolan and Mills didn’t let Phil do his job, either.
Bad team is a understatement
anybody else falling asleep listening to him?
The Ferryman LMFAOOOOO
His players.
Larry browns ego got checked by Zeek. Larry is petty he had no problem sitting max players. Why cry about karma
Larry is petty? More than Isaiah? Please! Seek is the biggest bi$ch ever in NBA history.
Is that Jimmy?
Yeah. Glad he didn't go to Barcelona.
Larry Brown's basic fundamental believes in how the game should be played is his most strongest assets as a coach. He is not afraid to discipline any player that doesn't play to his standards but he had his faults as a coach as well. He really wasn't great in developing younger players as he aged and could devestate players confidence. Overrall he was a great coach just not a perfect coach. Our current Knicks need a little more Larry Brown with fizdales patience.
He was a horrible coach. Now he's very knowledgeable about the game but coaching is more than X's and O's. He wasn't good about forming and maintaining relationships, that's why he clashed with so many players and laid that giant goose egg in the 2004 Athens Olympics. How many coaches would have failed with Lebron, Wade, Melo, Tim Duncan, on their roster?
@@etuboldon Yeah he had a very ugly side.
And Isiah choked him just he like he did a Pistons assistant while he was still playing.
@Ben Dover against?
@Ben Dover from my perspective he seems to genuinely hate white people, black people and women. He just kinda makes me uneasy. How genuine and articulate he can be one minute and then how in the next interview he can politely and eloquently throw his team (players/coaches) under the bus. It's all back handed compliments w/ him I feel?
Coming from someone that actually met him, he’s not a racist. Believe what you want , but I do know some racist people black and white.
@@jdejuant “coming from someone that actually met him”.. oh please, meeting and knowing/interacting on a regular basis are completely different lol.
Probably because Isiah Thomas played for Bob Knight’s Hoosiers.
Damn, “look at the roster” is really bad lol
Role boundaries issues. Gms should not coach they should trust the coaching vision as to how to assemble the " complimentary talents" the coach desires and go out and get them. Make the trades, do the talent evaluation with the coaches input , take the best available draft choice who fits that complimentary scheme. Larry went on to win in Detroit. HE has won everywhere except in NY. Part of that cities franchise problem is the media fishbowl that dissects every game every hiccup as if it's the day after Armageddon. People on the street draw the wrong conclusions sometimes from the media portrayal gms, players , coaches are expected to have to performed to the highest level yesterday . The expectations are so high especially when some salaries are unjustifiable. I think the media circus 🎪 contributed to the early trigger on Larry Thomas and Dolan feeling the heat. Patience is not a Virtue in nyc . You've heard of the ny minute ? It's more like 10 seconds.
I like Larry Brown, but very unfair for him to call his 2005-06 Knicks team terrible. Most of these players were still in their prime:
Trevor Ariza
Matt Barnes
Jamal Crawford
Eddy Curry
Antonio Davis
Steve Francis
Channing Frye
Anfernee Hardaway
David Lee
Stephon Marbury
Quentin Richardson
Nate Robinson
Jalen Rose
Malik Rose
It's a fair point. But it's kinda like the D-wade, Jimmy Butler, and Rondo roster of the Bulls. Yes...those are GREAT players. But....how do they fit together?? I have a ball dominant "point guard" and 3 solid 3 and D guys (Ariza, Barnes, and Frye). I have a broken down Penny Hardaway 12 years into the league who will probably want the ball in his hands. I don't have a center or power forward that I can rely on to get me a bucket like a post player should be able to do...I have a couple of "enforcers." And then I have Jalen Rose and Nate Robinson. Build that team on NBA2k and tell me how you make that team win games?? You have one guy that can get you 15ppg and the other guys you bought b/c their names are big and recognizable. Not trying to be aggressive....your point is valid. I just very, very angry when I see front office guys who "shop while they're hungry" and give the coach all "main dishes." I can't make a meal out of 3 lbs. of steak. I need potatoes....vegetables aka complimentary players!!!
That's what he does. Blames everybody but himself, when things are bad, and takes credit when things are good. That's how he was able to hop around the league and get these high profile jobs.
Listen to the players, Channon Frye, Trevor Ariza. Larry Brown didn't know what to do and he's playing the blame game.
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that Knicks team was horribly constructed....bunch of parts that didnt fit
Clearly, Larry B was a failure with NYK but it wasn't totally his fault. Isiah Thomas was also a major part of the problem since he was the one who built that dysfunctional roster (something a HC never has control over).
One of the biggest mistakes in Knicks history. Larry won everywhere we went. But we did have players on that team and Larry should’ve worked better with them. Isaiah was mostly only good at drafting
The worst coach in Knicks history
Love coach Brown
ISiah was the worst front office guy of all time!
I stopped watching black sports years ago.
If you feel that way, why are you commenting on this thread? Stay in your hole dork!
Sound like a bunch of crying and pointing fingers as usual blah blah blah
A lot of former players don't feel bad for you larry brown. You tried to ruin a lot of careers because you couldn't relate to certain black players
Great insight on the limitations of a organization if the department's are not on the same page. In hindsight, under Isiah, the Knicks were run into the ground and overrun with a sex scandal. Isiah killed a chance to let Brown upgrade and work his ledgendary turn around magic for success. To this day, the stifling actions of this period curtailed the momentum which hurts the team until this day. Knick fans hate Isiah for bringing unnecessary scandal and non winning to NYC. Now, the coach(former successful Sun) was fired for not succeeding with a tanking mode team. Players and coaches have stayed away from N.Y. to play. Hopefully, this will change to get a team the tri state and nation will be proud of in the future. These days, a good gm can go to local ny playgrounds and gyms to make up a better team than currently exist.
More Isiah news...
So many stories came out how terrible this guy was behind the scenes.
big facts
He must stay in detroit that was mistake
This guy has an ego and a half
James dollan great owner? Really
Isiah Thomas has a great eye for young talent. He did a good job in Toronto and Indiana but he did a real shitty job with the Knicks... I disagree with Larry Brown. He would not have won with that terrible ass roster
E Boogie IMO Isiah ruined Indiana... he had more talent available than Bird, but instead of taking the Pacers back to the Finals... they never made it out of the first round.
shinybaldy You didn't get what I was saying. I was talking about getting TALENT. You are talking about COACHING
he mentions that he wanted to make changes which they did down the road. he implied that if he stayed long enough and they listened and trusted him to make the changes that they wouldve been a better team.
larry brown ....the worst to ever do it!
Next town brown. Your a bad coach.blame everyone but yourself. Won what? You had 40 different starting lineups. It was you no one else.
Isiah Thomas sucks
Is there anyone that knows Isiah Thomas that doesn't consider him a charismatic snake?
Larry Brown sucks
All he tried to do in New York was go over isaiah's head and try to take his job with Dolan. Brown is full of shit.
Had he been a black coach he would of exiled from the NBA years ago. Would have never had the same chances.
He came to NY to look for office power thats it.
I don't see anyone building statues for him. Like they did for Marbury.
He was an awful coach who couldn't win with one of the most dominent players i've ever seen in Iverson.
This parasite vilified all the talent that was ever around him.
Got lucky to inherit that good Piston team.
Who is the one coach who led the Clippers to two straight playoff appearances in the 90s of all era. Who is the person who delivered sixers 5 best years. Who set the current culture of the spurs and pacers. Had larry had enough time (like pop said in the settlement court hearing in 2007) he would have turned them around.
You're dumb.
jvadoptante im black.... but really siding with Isaiah ? Isaiah is a piece of shit
Marc Regal Zeke was overly scrutinized in NY. For an Anucha incident, in which he was found not guilty.
Ass hole Mike Lupica and other shit writer wrote alot of garbage on Zeke. Even went after his family.
The only player to beat Jordan, Magic and Bird.
He had a great Eye for talent T-Mac, Nate Robinson. David Lee & Channing Frye have rings, who were discovered by Isaiah.
Stephon Marbury had a country build him a statue. Young Trevor Ariza who Larry almost broke his confidence , became a champion elsewhere.
smooth talker Larry Brown holds the record for the most changed starters in one season. That's the record he broke as a knick.
I do the homework and do not falter to media garbage especially when it's unwarranted.
As a "Black Man" you should take pride in Isaiah Thomas's accomplishments. A true GREAT.
It truly saddens me that you don't see it this way.
Think about it Joe Dumars is still in office and Larry doesn't have an NBA job insight. Who's really wrong here???
Marc Regal Zeke was overly scrutinized in NY. For an Anucha incident, in which he was found not guilty.
Ass hole Mike Lupica and other shit writer wrote alot of garbage on Zeke. Even went after his family.
The only player to beat Jordan, Magic and Bird.
He had a great Eye for talent T-Mac, Nate Robinson. David Lee & Channing Frye have rings, who were discovered by Isaiah.
Stephon Marbury had a country build him a statue. Young Trevor Ariza who Larry almost broke his confidence , became a champion elsewhere.
smooth talker Larry Brown holds the record for the most changed starters in one season. That's the record he broke as a knick.
I do the homework and do not falter to media garbage especially when it's unwarranted.
As a "Black Man" you should take pride in Isaiah Thomas's accomplishments. A true GREAT.
It truly saddens me that you don't see it this way.
Think about it Joe Dumars is still in office and Larry doesn't have an NBA job insight. Who's really wrong here???
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Larry is an amazing coach. But he's very very odd.