Gore Vidal & Roy Cohn: Classic Interview
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- Bill Boggs interviews the notorious lawyer Roy Cohn and acerbic author Gore Vidal. A classic TV interview featuring two controversial figures.
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Roy Cohn had the deadest eyes I've ever seen.
I was thinking the same watching this. They reflect that empty,evil soul he had. He must have gone straight to hell when he died
@@wlhansen2068😂 LOL.
This brings to mind what Gore Vidal said in a Live interview, when the interviewer, expecting a reaction, mentioned that William F. Buckley had just passed away.
Vidal said, matter-of-factly, “Well he’s not going to like Hell.”😊
That's because he was possessed.
Maybe, but Roy Cohn was right. McCarthy was posthumously vindicated, by defecting KGB officers and recovered Soviet archives, in his claims that key positions in US government, institutions and industries had and were being infiltrated by communist agents. Even the FBI were trying to warn the President that his secretary was a communist agent.
Gore Vidal's lazy, pompous, and absolute dismissal of this is what tells you that he, and not Cohn, is the liar and propagandist. Communists always have to destroy their enemies totally. It is not enough to debunk their arguments; they must destroy them reputationally, financially, and spiritually. The smear campaign against McCarthy and Cohn was total and merciless; neither could be seen as having even one redeeming quality.
I'm afraid that much of recorded 20th century history is highly revised and serves an agenda other than the sincere pursuit of truth.
But worse than him is Trump. Cohn was bad but he was an intellectual and social genius - he had people wrapped around his thumb for years in NY. Trump is just evil-stupid who abandoned Cohn (who took him under his wing) when he disclosed his AIDS. They’re both evil, but if I had to choose, I’d prefer Cohn.
This generation of people seemed so effortlessly articulate, listening even to folks with whom I disagree is like an intellectual/linguistic balm to the mind/ears.
Buckley is smooth too
@stevencoardvenice I was born in '68. I spent my youth listening to the adults at my grandparent"s Sunday dinner table talk about the Buckley/Vidal debates.
I belong to that generation. Watching discussions like these gives me the same sort of charge that youngsters get from watching a cage fight. The swimmingly gorgeous Gore Vidal and that dreadful Cohn fella may be calm and controlled, but they're cutting chunks off each other.
That’s what socialism does, not only does it produce poor quality products but it whittles away at the ethos.
Two high powered queens 👸
Haha, you ain't kidding..
One of them a closet queen, a poisonous, thug-enabling toad...
and a mentor to the worst President the US has ever had ...
and hopefully, ever will.
I hear a noise of two cats expressing themselves before going at it
Vidal must be the red queen seeing how expertly Cohn got beheaded.
Vidal was out, for the most part, and Cohn was closeted, and not only closeted but homophobic himself. There is nothing authentic about that man except for the evil that seeps through his skin.
Cohn looks necrotic in every photo.
Roy always looked like a villain like his face was made in a special effects department
Don’t be a racist anti-Semite
@@jordanmascarenhas7974 lol dude shut up
@@jordanmascarenhas7974 i said nothing about him being a jew carry on
His face was ruined not that he would ever be accused of being handsome but his mother insisted on plastic surgery on his nose as a newborn and he lived with scar his whole life.
The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances….
Cohn reminds me of Stephan Miller.
A performance of a liar.
Blame, distort, and double down.
Notice how Roy starts off calling others of lying. Then distort the word communist to fit anyone who he does not like. Then never backs down.
Trump used the same tactics, only foolish people bought what he sold.
Well spotted. I wouldn't be surprised if Cohn had served as, and remains, one of Miller's primary role models.
Now you understand how Stephen Miller's character was appreciated by Donald Trump.
He’s worse!
Stephen Miller reminds me of Goebbels
The implied gay accusations that go back and forth are hysterical and delicious. "It's aroused by the obvious" Chef's kiss.
I laughed out loud at that. Whatever you think of Vidal, you can’t deny he had wit.
Cohn died of AIDS
I comprehend everything you said I could never have composed that so brilliantly so fucking hillarious
Gore Vidal’s mannerisms are at an SCTV level like Rick moranis or Eugene levy is playing him
Bill Boggs interviewing 2 gay guys with different viewpoints. Terrific.
19:47 Cohn says he didn't know that Vidal was going to be on, but 7 minutes earlier he pulled a collection of Vidal quotes out of his pocket which ''somebody gave to me this morning'' - evidence of a set-up which the presenter was at pains to deny?
The entire interview was a setup. It was like an early version of Jerry Springer.
Roy Cohn did not walk into that stage not knowing Gore Vidal would be there he would have had his spies tell him who he would be on stage with him.
Not how I interpret the situation. From what Vidal said, it sounds like he was aware that Cohn would be there, but not just him. In other words, it would not be a debate between Vidal and Cohn, therefore not necessary to prepare for a debate. Cohn, being a lawyer and combative by nature and trade, would have prepared notes in Vidal in case challenged by him. As a good boy scout, Cohn obeyed the mantra, to always be prepared. :)
@@dougtaylor2803
Cohn probably had files on him since the 50s
Cohn: The man who taught Donald Trump the art of GRIFTING.
Rent free.
@david3551 I mean, the guy's running for president of course he's gonna be on people's mind.
@@gregh5061we will stop talking about him when the media doesn't shove him down everyone's throats everyday
@@TheoMutumbo I agree. Trump is the most important political figure of the 21st century, obviously people are gonna talk about him.
BULL
Gore Vidal: ‘-since Roy Cohn is one of the greatest living defenders in and out of court, not only of Joseph McCarthy, but of Roy Cohn-‘ 🤣
That's the only truth gore vidal said. As it should be!!! You defend yourself 1st and then your clients, gore did the same thing!!! He defended himself 1st
Gore Videl was a prissy little queen.
Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards.
@Joe Mama as was Roy Cohn who died of aids that he acquired with his homosexual activities . And yet publicly he slated gay people . What a liar he was .
McCarthy was also CLOSETED and LOVED LADIES PANTIES ! HEY mary
Cohn : I know that that (homosexuality) is your favorite topic of conversation.
Vidal: -it’s aroused by the obvious.
haha Cohn is brilliant
@Ross Smith
QA
@@paulscottfilms Cohn just about drank himself to death after contracting AIDS. brilliant..indeed. 🙄
@smith simon Both, sadly Cohn was self hating which at the time was common.
@@beccadabeast5013 when did Cohn contract AIDS?
Credits to the shows producer who managed to sneak both highly eloquent guests, yet mortal enemies, into the same studio, unbeknownst to each other, resulting in a modern day verbal joust.
Where's my Roy Cohn!!!" - the orange clown 😂
Slagging and trolling at a high intellectual level. This interview took place in 1977. Of course, it was the decade of great boxing matches. It fits right in
Thank you for the date!
I admired Gore Vidal's courage in speaking openly about what he knew & who he was.
Indeed. Gore was a patient man and fair one.
Damn right and so do I to this day
Gore was a man. Roy was a fake weasel
His favorite topic was himself
Yes I respect him for wearing his queerness on his sleeve. Didn't GAF.
Unlike these fascist closet cases creeps skulking around the halls of power. Like toy and Edgar
Vidal’s parting words: “Roy Cohn has stayed out of jail all these years & I’d like to hire him as my lawyer.”
Cohn is Drumpf’s role model.
Trump's role models are Putin, Erdogan, Xi, Orban, and other authoritarian leaders. Cohn was Trump's mentor which is why Trump uses disinformation, the aggrieved victimized narrative, bullying, jury tampering, and threats of violence.
TDS.
@@jaylockwood5030 Every single person will speak about Jeffery Epstein or Harvey Weinstein in the most disgusting terms because every single person knows that those two men are beneath contempt, they are total scumbags. No one will say that you have a derangement syndrome for condemning them because everyone _knows_* they are criminals. Yet, the people who support and defend the convicted sex offender, POTUS non grata Donald Trump, willfully ignore his many, many crimes yet, they have the audacity to say his detractors have a derangement syndrome! The people with TDS are those who ignore Trump's crimes, not those who condemn him! MAGA is a cult populated by people who are unable to discern truth from lies!
Your old queen Cohn had JFKDS and LBJDS.
@@jaylockwood5030 Loser
Roy has all the allure of Count Dracula.
whats the matter with you. maybe a simpleton.
@@paulscottfilms If you don’t know how evil Cohn was, you have no business calling anyone else a simpleton. If you do know and it doesn’t bother you then you’re a scumbag. Either way, you lose.
Dracula infected with the last stage of HIV.
Same one that said he was sexually attracted to Trump.
Remember he had that boyfriend that got drafted and looked exactly like Trump
And 10x the power.
Could you envisage yourself as one of his concubines?
Bravo, Gore Vidal ! A man of extraordinary intelligence.
He was a great novelist, essayist, world historian, and he did not lie.
You are truly missed.
If there is a devil, Sammy Cohn knew him well.
Thank you, Bill Boggs, this is a jewel video.
Gore Vidal always shined with enormous capacity of words with knives.
He’s receiving daily flaming pineapple enemas in hell … and likely enjoying it.
I can despise McCarthy and Cohn .. without having to ignore Vidal calling McArthur pompous with no sense of irony. Vidal show willingness to smear "closeted gays" from his out and proud posture.
Calling Ronald Reagan an “acting President” is as clever and accurate as political comment gets.
Two fascinating historical characters! Thank you Bill. Hope for more like this!
I wish
Fascinating?
RC was a genuine piece of excrement.
Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so this was an especially interesting interview!
I didn’t know that Will Ferrell was a journalist in the 70s
Sure you did. Didn't you see "Anchorman"? ;)
EXACTLY what I was thinking. :)
Roy Cohn was the best . So proud of him .
🤣
I had to do a double-take too.
I love how Roy Cohn never looks over at Gore Vidal.
But he does.
Trump was the same with Kamala. Maybe side eye that’s about it 🤣
@@jen21629 Yes, leering.
What's so lovable in that? Chickenshit, I would say.
@@oldtimer7635 There is a reason why Cohn cant smile. I'm quite sure he was curb stomped as a child
When Roy Cohn died the world immediately smelled better. The man was rotten to the core.
Wow Gore knew Roy was in the closet...
12:57 poor Roy lol
Wow ya in a big way.
“Takes one to know one”? Gore had the maturity & bravery to acknowledge his own sexuality. Cohn was…well, where to begin? Simply a disgustingly poor excuse for a human being in a thousand ways..
I think everyone knew
Takes one to know one.
This video is so amazing and rare in 2022. America is BRAIN DEAD now
Of course America is brain dead. That’s the America the owners of this country want. A nation of conformist consumers who are more than happy to just pay their rising taxes and shut the hell up and not question anything their government does. The government they’re paying for. A brain dead America is what the country’s owners want and they got it. They got it a long time ago.
Boy do i wish Gore Vidal were around these last 7 yrs.
"and that little boy whom nobody liked turned out to be Roy Cohn"
Including and especially his mother, it appears.
I like him alot - he makes a great argument about the reality of the danger of Communism and how it was important to acknowledge it.
WOW!
or Stephen Miller
@@jamespardue3055 thank you
LOL at these two LGBT boys with VASTLY different political views. LOL even more at the homosexual cracks around the 13 minute mark, considering the two participants involved.
Where the hell are these intellectual, intelligent, and informational sources of debate now? So disappointing that the public has no access to this on television.
They are too busy twerking.😂
Miserable nothing even close in todays sheltered red / blue society
What a great interview! Look how two bitter enemies were able to debate each other in a civil manner.
Imagine a similar debate today with Sarah Palin and Bill Maher. The fur would fly.
@@esltogo6898
Palin was, and is, a cretin !
@@62Cristoforo Why in, gods name, would you use Palin. She is not in any manner an intellectual. I think Maher's pretty smart how about put him up against Roger Stone who is a lot like Roy Cohn.
Look at how Cohn's lies and dishonesty survive. Why are some men able to make their way with utter dishonesty and corruption? Why was Cohn not in prison?
@ Brian Walsh . No I think when you graduate top of your class and are still too young for your Bar examination, that you might have a bit more intellectual clout than a PR man.
Remember Roy Cohn was Donald Trump's mentor...
YESSSSS
They're both tarred with the same brush
And I'll bet Trump thinks he sounds like Cohn when he speaks.
Roy Cohn couldn't look at Vidal while he was arguing because he was threatened by him
Cohn never quite looked directly at people, I noticed.
Or turned on.
And yet Cohn was ten times better connected. Go figure.
Actually, history made Vidal Gore out to be the fool. Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards, not superior.
Roy met his superior in Gore Vidal
"And that little boy that nobody liked… grew up to be… Roy Cohn. And now you know the rest of the story." - The Simpsons, parodying Paul Harvey.
I remember that and I always wondered who they were referring to. now that I recognized the name in this clip, I must say, that if he was a man to be made fun of, he still came across as more likable and intelligent than the shitshow we have now. the art of the dialogue is lost.
One of the most contemptible men of the 20th century. And sure, there was such widespread admiration of Joe McCarthy. I was alive and that is an absolute lie. Not surprising coming from Trump’s mentor.
Are you sensible?
"The nicest thing that I have ever heard about Senator McCarthy, told to me by Senator Flanders, was he was a full time homosexual"
Gore Vidal was such a savage
I love when he says “Well I’ll get to you in a minute”. 🤣
This clip was in the documentary 'Where's My Roy Cohn?' I had never heard of Midday before but came to TH-cam to see if I could find the entire episode. Through Roy Cohn's whole life people would come right out and ask if he was a homosexual/ if he was dying of AIDS, and he always denied it of course.
@@deealone5191 i saw that, and rented it, but got more, really, about Roy Cohn from DemNow in 2016, w/Trump and Wayne Barrett. in 2011, my parents refused me their computer, but i bought the first IPad, ,and still, just got had HBO as a gift, and so obviously screwed up as Bill Maher was abt Islam, this woman named Amy Goodman was a guest, and boom...via ‘on demand’, i double checked and heard : DemocracyNow. so i’ll always be grateful, for him because of #DemocracyNow, with which i STILL start the day.
Yeah, the left would imply McCarthy was gay based on the "evidence" that he was in his 40s before he got married.
@Ross Smith He was willing to do whatever it took to stay in power and be relevant and being a narcissist or a sociopath had no qualms about doing whatever he thought that would take regardless of whose life he destroyed. Just like our former president.
Cohn defends McCarthy AND Caligula!
Caligula was actually a genius. Mccarthy was right more than half the time wich is more than the average poilitician. Cohn vindicated.
Roy Cohn WAS Caligula...he underestimated himself.
McCarthy was right - look at Covid (leaked from a Communist laboratory ) and the censorship that is occurring and ‘woke / cancel culture ‘ . And for me to exercise this opinion could be prosecuted by fifth columners as Omar Talib - Yes - McCarthy had his faults but he was right about Communism and the Risenbergs ! I’ll let you get back to
NPR and the NYTimes now ! 🙄
No zombie, Caligula not defended, go and watch some TV
@@martinhanley9524 Really? Covid was "leaked" from a commie lab? 🙄 You're leaving that ignorant comment on social media in the 21st century? Good grief. America prays you grow a free, critical thinking brain. Sooner rather than later. 🤣😂
The host looks like Will Ferrel and Cohn looks like a roughly aged version of Steven Miller. Have you ever seen someone with a more utterly dead lack of expression on their face? Like he's been eaten from inside
An aging Billy Joel
Vidal : McCarthyism, the eponymous - or the original founder of the term…
Cohn : I’m glad you explained that word. I was going to call Bill Buckley. 😊
Vidal : You would’ve gotten through to him very quickly. 😂
Touché.
this is gold!!
Roy Cohn was a monster.
Cohn was
Sigh , so many people with shallow and unconsciously tragic lives.
When he was disbarred, then passed of AIDS, the "monster" was finally gone!!!
He was so physically repulsive
A monster?! A rather small monster, don't you think?
I was 12 when this happened. It's nice to watch Gore Vidal as an adult. I actually have several photographs with him in them from old Peace and Freedom Party gatherings in and around Venice, Ca. My aunt took them.
I now see where Donald Trump comes from...
Roy Cohn was Donald Trumps mentor.
I do not mean to be crude, but by giving him the nickname “Tailgunner Joe”, was the media implying more that MaCarthy ran the machine gun is the back end of a bomber? In other words (even more base I’m afraid, and for which I apologize), were they implying tha McCarthy was gay?
"Tail Gunner Joe" was the name of a television movie about the life of Joe McCarthy, but I suspect Vidal, efficient with the language as ever, was killing two birds with one stone by making an allusion to the possibility of the latter.
The double entendre was obviously lost on the masses, since they took the phrase from Vidal and entitled the book with it, for mass distribution, in mixed company
Vidal is excellent here.
Regardless of the points of view .. both bright, articulate
Both highly intelligent. Vidal's "Palimpsest" was one of the best books I ever read.
I am awed by the IQ of both men !
Roy Cohn: "I think Mr. VIdal has lapsed into an uncharacteristic modesty ..."😂
Hehehe
The interviewer had the wisdom to say little and let these lettered men play it out.
The interviewer is a moron!
Roy Cohn and Gore Vidal……WOW!!!!!
Mc carthy drank to oblivion after those hearings knowing that damage it was doing...but he had to ..damage was done and Roy one of the most disturbing Americans ever and to this day trough Trump..
American Left contributed to the millions of North Korean and Indochine people being murdered by the Communists.
Spot on!
Cohn taught Trump many of his most criminal practices!
You want to tangle communism...?? Fine , but get fair ,honest competent..staff....not a frustrated drunk...and his develish side Kik..whispering poisoning equations that break all rules of decency..
@@bear0balls such as what huh?
Trump talks like Cohn, sounds just like him with a limited vocabulary and range of syntax
I admire him for “staying out of jail all these years”. What a fantastic put down. It just about sums up my feelings about his boy Trump.
Wait til your boy Hunter goes to jail
@@jordanmascarenhas7974 What has Hunter Biden got to do with anything. He is a private citizen and has absolutely nothing to do with me. Trump has 40+ legal cases pending and growing. He has been banned from ever owning a charity, and likely to be banned from doing business in New York. He is being investigated under the Espionage Act ,and for Sedition. He keeps losing case after case in a Conservative Supreme Court, yet out of a population of 326m he is the person you chose to give the power of the immense power of the Presidency.
@jordanmascarenhas7974
Ha! Your corny comment aged like milk. Russian spy now arrested for feeding false info to fbi and gop.
@@jordanmascarenhas7974nah the sexual predator and fraudster and traitor will be in jail very soon and since he's a bully who picks on little girls he'll get his due reward in prison and Dude get out of the cult you don't think you are in
Watch Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley go at it at the 1968 Democratic Convention. Gore Vidal was terrific!
Gore Vidal was one of the great American intellectuals of the late 20th Century.
Cohn spends most of this interview misdirecting the conversation. He began by claiming McCarthy was dedicated to stopping the Communist menace around the globe when McCarthy was known for was claiming the Communists were "infiltrating" the State Department and the US Army neither of which was true.
Vidal, who was openly gay, was really digging at Cohn, who was also gay but closeted, by pointing out very subtly that he was gay and intimated that McCarthy may have been gay. Those comments made Cohn visibly uncomfortable.
Then Cohn died of AIDS, didn’t he?
I always wondered about Nixon and Robozo.
There were Soviet agents in the State Department and the military as well as the White House under FDR. Alger Hiss was, in fact, a Soviet agent. Then there were people in government, academia, and the news and entertainment industry who were sympathetic with the Soviets. Harry Dexter White and Harry Hopkins were both sympathetic with the Soviets as was FDR himself who was no Marxist, but saw Stalin's economic program was the New Deal on steroids.
I'm a leftist and a communist sympathizer and I can assure u it was true. Communists held many high offices in the state department and executive branch. Remember, the soviets were our allies in ww2. So thjs was acceptable during FDR era. Communism was trendy in the 30s and 40s among urban workers, intellectuals, artists and celebrities. The ussr was fighting fascism for us
Great interview of two exsplosive characters! Thanks
"He had a fantastic war record" of shooting coconuts.
It's true. His colleagues gave him an award for "Most vegetation shot." He fired 4500 rounds one day including some into his own aircraft so he could claim a record. He flew only two combat missions (in one day) and injured his foot falling over when partying but called it a combat wound. No Purple Heart though;-)He died bravely of liver damage from a special Japanese bayonet called "booze."
Lol
@@Longtack55 Beautiful synopsis of Tall Gunner Joe! I thought he got a Purple Heart for slipping on a wet deck on ship? Lol
Yes to the Miller resemblance. I don't know how Gore kept from a projectile puke.
Remember, Roy Cohn taught Trump everything he needed to know on how to handle the media and his legal affairs. As for Gore Vidal, I wish I had listened more closely to him years ago. His historical knowledge concerning the political and social movements in our country are unparalleled.
He dident teach trump crapp. He just took his money and kept him out of trouble .
"Roy Cohn taught Trump everything he needed to know"? Oh how I wish.
Vidal had historical knowledge but piss-poor judgement. Such as lying about the Cuban people being better off. Hindsight has proven nearly all of his statements to be wrong.
He was also part of the wave to end the Electoral College....the mating call of Totalitarians.
@@xs10tl1 The Cuban people aren't better off because of an unrelenting 60 year campaign of crippling economic sanctions, murder plots against their leadership and numerous attempted coups by the United States.
@@xs10tl1 Do you think that Fidel and Che threw the Gangsters and Fascists of the island by themselves?
Despite over 60 years of unrelenting pressure from the world's most powerful nation, as Hello It's Me mentions, that tiny island with a population smaller than several American cities has no homeless people. Has a near 100% literacy rate. And produces more Doctors than the U.S., every year.
In fact, what problems Cuba does have are the direct result of our nation's policies to deprive and destabilize their people and the government they chose.
I will never forgive Roy Cohn for destroying Lionel Trains.
Gore was about to out his ass lmao..
You wanna tawk about reading… let’s tawk about reading!
Cohn was commonly known to use young male prostitutes...similar to Lindsey Graham today. They denied it, yet were not discreet in their dalliances....common knowledge in their social circles and gossip magazines/sites.
Cohn gets most agitated when homosexuality is mentioned . Self loathing has all kinds of outcomes .
Two flamers which puts show's their pov. Also McCarthy was a flamer too.
COHN IS DISPICABLE...ITS A PITY THAT HELL DOES NOT EXIST JUST TO PROVIDE ITS ACCOMODATIONS TO THAT GHOUL
How in the heck did they get both Roy Cohn and Gore Vidal on the same stage?
Civility in politics existed then.
Yes, I like the way they made their point and actually let the other finish. Today, we get half way through and the other guy yells out a non sequitur and the whole thing is just unproductive shouting match.
You should watch Buckley and Vidal. Great intellectual stuff until later meetings when Bill got his feelings hurt and converted to bashing Vidal.
@@beccadabeast5013 Did u e see Best of Enemies, documentary about their tete-a tete at the '68 convention. Fantastic stuff
I don't think Vidal ever shied away from any debate with the right wing. I think that he hadn't been told about this is what annoyed him because he wanted to be prepare. Obviously he was intelligent enough to pull it off and did a very good job.
Cohn was a professional BS artist. Vidal was excellent here.
ROY COHN ..... THE MAN WE CAN BLAME FOR DONALD TRUMP
Their styles are identical.
Gore Vidal was an eloquent speaker
True
More like a pompous, arrogant jerk
@@JohnB-dr8sk no.
@@JohnB-dr8sk true, he was also indeed a pompous and arrogant jerk.
I'm a Gore Vidal fan, but this interview in my opinion shows some of his weaknesses... he had a tendency to get petty and personal which again in my opinion mitigated the impact of the points he tries to make and often causes him to wander
I for one appreciate your thoughtful comment. These two men seem to have been connived into a joint appearance .. not an ethical practice. Cohn brought his notes to attack the "Tail Gunner Joe" broadcast and Vidal hadn't even seen it. ( I read the book and saw the drama ) So who is not manipulated in this arrangement? As a viewer of this old video .. I feel it.
Great interview, Thanks 😷
I ❤' ed Gore Vidal he was awesome
Gore was remarkable, as he always was.
Great how they are very polite to one another
Roy looks like a angry ghoul.
... Agent "COVFEFE" Orange's mentor.
@@kradius2169 oh no! Trump misspelled something and libtards lose their minds...again
@@jordanmascarenhas7974 ... Jab Daddy didn't misspell anything. COV = COVID & FEFE = party, cf. Stunt Taylor's 2013 "Fe Fe on the Block".
Vidal is as smooth as $13 butter.
After all these years Roy’s defense of McCarthy sounds like a trump cult member.
Your wrong its about Harris
And Willy brown
@Juan Valdez That doesn’t make sense. The analogy doesn’t work.
Cohn was a mentor to Don Trump.
Venona papers
To a libtard, it would
thank you from manhattan ©2025
"Roy Cohn is a personal friend of mine and a helluva nice guy"
- Thanos
Nothing wrong with Roy. He at least embraced success and American/ European values, while most in his community hated the successful, trying to lead violence and theft/redistribution schemes ( leftist , Frankfort school, Democracy Now ..)
Liar!
@@paulissus8974 Didn't you notice the quotation marks? They look like this: "didn't you notice the quotation marks? "
Cohn claims he had no previous knowledge of Vidal appearing with him on the show - and this was after he pulls out a piece of paper from which reads Vidal quotes…
Gotta laugh out load get it?
2:18 “You were the guy behind him, pushing”
Giggity...
Roy Cohen “….when you’ve done a hatchet job THE LIKES OF WHICH….” I can’t believe we’re seeing Roy Cohen’s DNA spilling out of trumps mouth some 50 years later.
"Where's my Roy Cohn???!!!"- Donald J. Trump.
Interesting to note that both of these men were gay.
2 queens fighting over how to angle the love seat.
Exactly.
Vidal comes across so condescending and dismissive its difficult to listen to. Im certainly NOT a fan of Roy Cohn but Vidals casual disrespect is beyond rude. I agree with the comment about a couple of "queens" !!!
The fact that neither guest was told that they would be sharing the stage leaves some viewers feeling as manipulated as these two "guests". There is an explanation for that decision that seems irrelevant 45 years later. But it is the context of this exchange. I detest Roy Cohn and his tactics. Gore Vidal was not a wise choice for the counter point .. unless the intent was to host a cockfight .. no pun intended... for TV controversy. ( When I hear the word pompous .. 3 men come to mind. McArthur, Vidal, and Wm F Buckley. )
"Roy Cohn has managed to stay out of jail all these years, and I admire him for that, and I'd like to have him as my lawyer." Gore Vidal sums up Trump's fixer from the early days. "Better call Roy."
Beautiful. You are SO VERY RIGHT. The apple falls always close to the tree
Brillant commentary beyond words. Good quote you made.
Uh, no. Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release. So he was totally vindicated by history.
@@JohnB-dr8sk Ah, Roy Cohn Jr. weighs in.
@@ronagoodwell2709 Anyone opposed to Communism is a "Roy Jr" to you comrade. Just so everyone here knows, all of these Marxist commenters here that hate Roy Cohn are planning to genocide half the country if they ever get full power. We know this from FBI informant Larry Grathwold's testimony to Congress in the 1970s about the Weather Underground. Bill Ayers and his cohorts were working directly with the CCP and the Soviet Union and talked openly about genociding 30 million Americans who opposed the world revolution. Larry Grathwold was praised by President Jimmy Carter and Democrats in Congress after his testimony. Roy Cohn is hated because he helped expose the world revolution here in America. It has nothing to do with anything else that he did.
I am old and terminally ill with not much time to live, so thankfully, I won't be alive after these monsters attempt this great evil. But I leave this as a warning to others who will be alive who are trying to understand what is happening. You are all in grave danger if these maniacs aren't stopped....
I pity Roy Cohn. Who would want to embody that corpus of evilness and corruption. His only friends were people like Joe McCarthy and Donald Trump. It's pity I feel not anger.
it would be helpful to post the date of the original broadcast
I googled it 1977was the year
If that happened there wouldn't be all this action in the comments.
@@pqmconstruction2003 if you think the interview was recent you have a lot of problems that even Google can't give help for, JS
Cohn said in the interview/debate, the year was 1977.
Absolutely. I am guessing circa 1970
Roy Cohn looks like a character from the movie, Night of the Living Dead. Ghoulish.
Gore Vidal was an underappreciated national treasure.
In the book Losing Mum and Pup: A Memoir, Christopher Buckley wrote about a letter he received from Vidal soon after his dad passed away. Vidal had written that he was overjoyed that his father had died.
National treasure to USSR
Actually, history made Vidal Gore out to be a fool. Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards, not superior.
@@jordanmascarenhas7974 he didn't want our kids getting slaughtered fighting it in foreign countries if that is what you mean. He wasn't a communism himself.
@@joedeangelis4528 Why believe anything Buckley says?
“Let’s be affirmative…” 😂
I'm stealing that lol
It's funny that the land of freedom and bravery has never wanted to honestly fight with other ideas of the world. Even suggesting something different is considered almost and like in this case, literally, a criminal activity. You might think that, for example, communism would have been very easy to "put down" if it had been faced honestly through public discussion and political debate. That has never happened in that country, one might ask, why, what are they afraid of, then and now?
this was great television for the afternoon. what happened?
... idiocracy has taken hold, left and right.
The Will Ferrell political debate show! Fascinating!
Great debate. Why is the sound off from 11:49 to 12:05?
A libelous statement was being made. I am guessing a long ago threat of legal action is the answer.
Wow, this is extraordinary. Two homosexuals, one the greatest truth teller of his generation, the other too scary and closeted. Vidal's family related to many big Democratic party bloodlines. Fabulous find. Thanks 🕶
It's hard to believe that this is what American daytime TV used to be like.
Jeremy Strong I know you're in these comments
Roy Cohn did surprisingly well against a superior opponent but I score a TKO for Vidal. Landed the best lines. Brilliant.
Yeah I know who I’d rather have advocating my defence.
Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% correct by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards compared to Roy's facts.
Wow! I was not aware that Vidal basically outted Cohn in the 70’s.
It is sad that it was more civilized conversations in those days than today.
Mostly because of the republicans always getting loud and talking over and keep sticking ti their fox news talking points and trying to win instead of an intelligent conversation. Same thing with leftist who won't allow the right wing to speak and shouting them down like we see at some colleges.
Intelligence levels and society has changed with the Dumbing down of America ( book by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt ) also With the subversions that have taken place along the way from 1949 to date.
Evil under the veneer of civility (kind of). These wordsmiths are weilding machetes at each other.
It was more like a dinner party argument they were much more natural - people are trained TV performers now. They also just let them talk in those days now the interviewers try to pin them down more looking for the gotcha.
Thanks to Mr. Cohn's protege using autocratic techniques to destroy not only our discourse, but our democracy and institutions.
trump's mentor
I think history (and Robert Caro's monumental biography) has favored Vidal's assessment of LBJ. Not, perhaps, that he met the diagnostic criteria for bipolar disorder, but certainly that he was a deeply flawed, often vile, human being--Great Society and civil rights achievements nothwithstanding.
The "Great Society" decimated the black family unit.
Wow. I just watched the Trump-Harris debate and chased it down with this one. This was SOOOO much better than the presidential debate's schlock I just watched. The brains and integrity of both the candidates combined could fit inside Cohn's nostril or Vidal's pinky finger.