QD: I have both the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1. I’d call it a tie but can’t see the Rincon as a daily trainer as the outsole wears down so quickly... I’ll pick up the Clifton 7 soon!
I got the rincon 1 and I LOVED them! If I can only get one this year I might lean towards trying the clifton this time just to get the clifton experience!
I owned both the C6 and R1. Loved the feel of both but purchased the R1 first then C6 following 3 months. The Rincon became my daily trainer at first and it truly is a versatile shoe. However, when the C6 arrived I really appreciated the comfort of the upper and the balanced midsole of the C6. The Rincon did me well for summer of 2019 but as Fall approach it was all Clifton. As I continued to racked more miles, I came to settled on the Clifton 6 as the superior shoe. I enjoyed my runs much more and it was the shoe that got me to my first half marathon as a born again runner :) Despite what folks say, I find the C6 can easily handle a good uptempo run and I find that I was able to keep my pace more consistent over a longer distance. With the Rincon, my legs often began to fatigue by mile 10. I ran both shoes in comparison many times and keeping close attention to pace, cadence and my heart rate, the Clifton 6 can match the Rincon with no leg fatigue for me. I loved the C6 so much I purchased the reissued Clifton 1 to see what the hype was about. Was the Rincon a resurrected Clifton 1? As I find many similarities between the two in the midsole, weight and just overall feel. My Rincons felt shot at about 180 miles as outsole wore out and midsole felt dead flat and it’s retired. Last week, I retired the Clifton 6 with about 500+ miles! I’ll be purchasing the Clifton 7 and perhaps the 6 on sale. For now, it’s the Asics Glideride and Clifton 1 for my daily trainers as I await the 7.
QD: RINCON! The most fun shoe I've run in, in years (and I include the Novablast in that). I will buy the 2's as soon as they come out. With the Novablast and the Bondi 6, I've got a reasonable rotation set up. I only ever want to go as long as a half marathon distance so I'm all good.
QD: Ran in the Clifton 6 for most of 2019, ran a half in it. Loved it!!! Bought the Bondi 6 next in early 2020 and it’s my daily go to trainer. Got 300 miles on the pair as of now. Still in good shape. Love the comfort. Yes I think I will buy the Rincon 1 or 2 or maybe both since the 1 is on sale right now 🤠🇺🇸👍
I ran in both the Clifton 6 and Rincon. The Rincon was definitely my favorite and I had a couple pairs of them. I enjoyed the cushion on the Clifton but it gave me blisters on the inside of my foot. Love your videos Seth!
During this covid situation; I was able to keep sane because I found this channel and got the Clifton 6's. I do think I will be getting the Rincon 2 next. Keep it up!
Have over 400 miles in the Rincon 1 and loved every mile, other than the premature wear on the bottoms within 50 miles. Could feel the breakdown in the legs around 300 miles but still got over 400 miles in them. Already preorder the Rincon 2, can't wait for them to show up!
Beginnee runner here. And clifton 7 is my first hoka. Totally love it. Got my PR in 5k, 10k, 15k, and completed my first half marathon in it as well. Absolutely amazing shoes. Just bought rincon 2 aftee this review. Let's see if I can have new PR for 5k and 10k!
QD: I had the Rincon 1 and really liked the weight and cushioning. The downside is they are too narrow, typical Hoka. I am always baffled by the shape of Hoka shoes, they just dont seem foot shaped but maybe it's just me. I may try the Rincon 2's or the new Clifton's but time will tell.
Seth you’ve gotta review the endorphin speed, I like it even more than the endorphin pro. Probably the best shoe I’ve ever owned. Perfect tempo/threshold day shoe QD: Clifton 6 and no - too squishy for me even for recovery days
QD: have had multiple pairs of each. Rincon starts to bottom out after 250 miles or so while I can put 5-600 on my clifton 6’s before they’re shot. As far as versatility, while not as light, I have no problems clicking 5 minute miles in my clifton 6 because of the meta rocker and relatively bouncy midsole.
Picked up two pairs of Rincon 1’s last year and it became my favorite shoe. Don’t notice enough of a difference between the 1 and 2 to get the 2’s so I just ordered two more pairs of the 1’s on sale. 😃
I had the Clifton 3, 4, and 5. I tried on the Rincon 2's last week and immediately made the purchase to the Rincons. Can't wait to put the miles in on these and test them compared to some of the older Cliftons. The Clifton will probably still be one of my all time favorite shoes. IT'S HOKA BABY!!!
I currently use both the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1. As a 205 lb, 53 yr old newer runner, the Hoka Rincon 1 saved me. 8 months of frustrating knee and calf pain were finally overcome when I switched from using the Cliftons to the Rincons. The way the Rincon absorbs impact is so forgiving and my legs recover easier. I do race in Nike Peg Turbo 2's (5-10K's) as the Rincon's don't work for me above tempo. As for the Clifton 6, this is the best walking shoe ever, and if you are ever in need of a shoe for a long day on your feet choose this shoe.
I went with the Rincon 1 in 2019 and it was absolutely amazing!! The best shoe I think I’ve ever had. I am going to go with the Rincon 2 for 2020, tried the carbon x but it was uncomfortable so we’re going back with the Rincon!
I tried both of them in recently and ended up picking up the Rincon 2. I am excited to see how many awesome runs I have in these. First run was good ran in paces from 6:30 to 11:00 minute miles and it seemed to do well at all paces
Love my rincon.....just ordered the Clifton 7, which was released just yesterday here in Germany...will also buy the rincon 2 when it comes out. Cheers from Berlin, Germany...
QD Both. The Clifton 6 took some getting used to. Not sure why but my feet would get numb on 6 to 10 mile runs until about 30 miles. PR’ed a half 3 weeks in. 450 miles on the Clifton. Followed up with Rincon. No break in period. So much lighter and less bulky. 160 miles in and counting. I would buy either one or maybe both in a rotation. Enjoy the reviews...keep up the good work!
Same here... Loved loved the shoe.... so comfy and reactive, just not wide enough... Tried the wide Clifton 7 and there is nothing wide about it. No room for the toes. Went with Brooks Glycerine and NB 1500. NB is great for fast day and Brooks ok for the long runs.
Rincons (1.0) have been a weird experience for me. The first few runs I really didn't understand the hype...they felt soft but not uniquely cushioned, light but not featherweight, and the upper felt narrow in the toe box. Just "ok". Then I got around to 50ish miles over the next few weeks and they really started to grow on me. Fast forward another few months and the outsoles are totally chewed up. I'm not sure if this shoe will make it to 250 miles, unfortunately.
I had the same experience and also bought the Novablast for my faster days. My only issue with the Novablast is that they feel quite big... Do you have the same problem? Maybe i will try a smaller size next time or stick to the Gliderides which i use for my long runs. I think those will do great on Tempo days as well.
I have ben a faithful New Balance runner for a long time. I just bought my first pair of Hokas , the Clifton 7, about a month ago. I have no complaints about this shoe and It would be hard to get me to run in anything else.
Ran in the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1 all last year except for trails. Trails it was Hoka Atr5 and occasionally speedgoats. I give the edge to the Clifton simply because the Rincons didn’t hold up for me - no way could I get 300 miles out of them before the outsoles were trashed. Even after a first run they would show obvious wear. Maybe it’s my running form others have a different experience. The Clifton also comes in a wide option which I prefer. Thanks for the discussion of the 7. I’ll be grabbing a pair when they’re available for sure. 👍🏃♂️🏃♂️
I got the Rincon 1 in march and will definitely buy the Rincon 2 when the 1's are worn out. So light and cushioned. Reminds me a bit of the beacon, but feels faster. I don't agree with those who says it feels a bit unstable.
QD: Picked up the Rincon last year but retired it early because of its narrow last. It was hell for my feet. I very much liked the ride though, but Hokas are just too damn narrow for my forefoot. It's hard to beat the Novablast in versatility for anything but races, and the reason ASICS is generally more available in Europe, and Hoka only online directly from them, but I am tempted to grab a Clifton 7 in 2E.
yo same here. i loved the ride, felt really really fast (for me) but it was just so awful for my feet. i would have to ice my feet, foam roll my shins, etc. I do wanna try the Clifton 7 in 2e though...
Rincon for the road and torrent 2 for the dirt at the moment. I used to run nike all day but I'm now a hoka convert. No more injuries with the hokas. It's all personal preference at the end of the day.
Received my Rincons 2 today and after 5mins they were in the box again on the way back to Hoka. I was kind of hyped. I love Clifton 6 and I use them as a core of my marathon training. I was looking for an addition for some shorter, faster runs. Straight away I could tell you how sqashed my toes were! They reminded me of Kinvara 11. And I don't even have wide feet. They're bit too narrow though. I figured that I can be as fast as I want in Cliftons. Really - if needs be fast days can be done in Peg Turbos (still too narrow, espec. Peg 2 for me). After 700km there's still some life in my Cliftons and when the time comes they will be replaced by 7. Runcons - overhyped.
Many many thanks for such a detailed comparison!! I’ve bought the Rincon 2 and they’re just wonderful. Ran my first 22 km for two days and feel great about it’s comfort and speed. What do you think of Rincon 2 for a city marathon?..
QD: I had the the Clifton 5 and Rincon. Hoka shoes have started failing me way to quickely in the last year or so. The foam just gets eaten up in the heels. I am just going to look for something else this year.
Raymond Morrow I had the Clifton 5 a year ago and absolutely hated it, but I just got the Clifton 6 last week and I love it! I would wait to change it up bc the Clifton 5 is very different from the 6
@@Jon-nk5rv I've used three pairs of clifton 6 wide this last year. I'm a heavy runner, weighing in at 110 kg's. So to me it's important to have a solid mid-sole. Absolutely agree- clifton 6 is a big step up from the 5.
Purchased Rincon 1 ran a 1/2 and several 5's love it almost as much as my Clayton 2s. Not yet up to Clifton 6s - I'm on my Clifton 4s which are ok for my long runs. Also use Mach 1s in my rotation and just got a Mach 2s. Just purchased another Rincon 1's on sale and will also upgrade to a Clifton 6 also on sale. Now's the time to get all the Hoka's you love or will love.
I have two pairs of each the Clifton 6 and Rincon. Working through the first pairs, recently bought second pairs on sale. Use Clifton for long runs Rincons for shorter faster days. Love them both. Probably will not buy the 7s or Rincon 2s until next spring or summer if at all as already have a second pair of ea that hasn’t been run in as well as other shoes in the rotation.
I love my RIncons, but I feel like the Atreyu fits a similar spot in the rotation. I have the Clifton 6 and they’re my first Cliftons - I simply love them for Monday morning easy runs! I’ll definitely get the 7’s when these run their course.
I've used the Rincon 1 a lot since last summer, even did a marathon in the Rincon and absolutely love it, sadly the outsole started wearing down after about 500km. Also picked up the Clifton 6 a while back but havnt really found the perfect use for it yet. Might be picking up the Rincon 2!
QD: Loved the OG Cliftons. Love the Challenger ATR 5. Clifton 6 was a miss for me. Hate the bucket "seat" component to Hoka's Road shoes because it gives me blisters every single time at ball of foot (Arahi 3, Bondi 6 as well). Tried the Clifton 6 wide and my foot was swimming and I did not find it responsive enough! So no Clifton 7 for me and the Rincon - forget about it for anyone except narrow footed folks. I LOVE the Novablast, Endorphin Speed, and the Glideride. Even enjoying Adrenaline GTS20, Evoride, Salomon Balance 3, NB 1080v10 and 880v10. Endorphin Shift I'm still evaluating but it's not as good as the Glidride for my feet. Given all the newer shoes from established companies including more room in width and toe box with great new cushion - frankly I don't think Hoka with the narrowness (loved the OG Hoka's and wore them out) holds up unless you have narrow feet. JMHO.
interesting you found the Rincon narrow. my Rincons actually fit wider than my 2E Clifton 6's. might still be worth a try-on if you haven't had them on foot yet.
@@mcm4point2o I tried the original but it's been a while. I'll certainly try them on if I find in a store. I love the cushion of the Clifton 6 - just not the upper.
@@mcm4point2o So I just got a pair of Rincon 2. My local REI had them in stock and the new upper is so much better than the original for my feet. They aren't as narrow as the v1 and seem to fit better overall. I've been wearing them around and so far, so good. Thanks for the comment because I remembered it when I went in and decided to try them on just to see!
I bought the Rincons and have enjoyed them a lot. I am a heavier runner who is just getting into running and haven’t quite put 50 miles in them, but am wearing them out kind of quickly. I would love to try out the Cliftons next, but I don’t know if I will completely upgrade to the 7. Just thinking I might need a little more rubber.
I have both the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1. I much preferred the Clifton 6 over the 5, just felt a better fit and generally a better look and shoe. Then... I bought the Rincon. Loved them. Tend to wear them more often now especially for runs between 5 and 1/2 marathon. I would say the Clifton 6 feels more comfortable over longer distances. It’s a shame the rincons soles wear down pretty quick! Nice review btw!
I had 2 of the original clifton 1 and went through 4 pairs of the repopped clifton 1. Got 700-800 miles per pair. Running in the Clifton 6 and just ordered the Rincon 2 because of the lighter weight.
I loved both the Clifton 6 and the Rincon 1. Everyone said the Clifton 7 was virtually the same as the Clifton 6, so I bought a pair, but unfortunately I didn't find that to be the case. The heal counter was a bit uncomfortable and I started forming a blister on the medial side of my arch. Another thing to note with this comparison, Rincon outsoles are really not that durable when compared to the Clifton. I consistently bring Cliftons well over 400 miles before I retire them, but all the Rincons I've owned have felt pretty shot after only 250-350 miles. I know this is hard to tell after only 50 miles, but just what I've observed.
I’ll be getting the Rincon 2 as a daily trainer. Never used Hoka before. I had Nike free 3.0 for 9 years, just now retired them this year. It’ll be a nice upgrade 😅
QD: Bought the Rincon 1 in 2019 and it was SO comfortable on the long runs but also snappy enough for the faster paced days. Just purchased the Clifton 6 about 3 months ago to replace the Clifton 5 knit....wow what a upgrade! Fit and feel were fantastic in both.
qod : I bought both from an online reseller. The problem with the Rincon is (as other responders have mentioned as well) it is quite narrow in the upper, especially around the midfoot. The Rincon has a paper thin inlay sole, and since i use customized inlay soles there is no room left for my feet. I could feel the quality of the shoe but i was really gutted that i could not use it more than once. Luckily i could return the shoe. I am loving the Clifton 6 though for my easy days, will pick up a second (and maybe third) pair now the price is dropping.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner! I have the good fortune of having a great local running shoe/apparel/supplement store that has a running club which meets on Saturdays! The big bonus is each week they feature a tester shoe which you can run in with no obligation to buy. Today's model? The Hoka Rincon 2 :-) I immediately liked how they felt when I put them on. I already have the Clifton 7, love 'em. Took the Rincon 2's out for a 5 miles test drive. Woohoo! This is a fun, fast, and comfortable shoe. Hoka may become my only brand eventually. I love Skechers but running stores don't carry them and there own retail outlets have no selection or poor outdated ones!! Go figure! This means you have to buy them online without feeling them in person. I hope my Club will get a chance to test drive the Hoka Mach 4's soon.
I bought two pairs of the Clifton 6 and the original Rincon last year. I plan to pick up another pair of the Clifton 6 on sale probably this week just because I like them that much.
Just bought a second pair of the Rincon 1. I realized there isn't much difference between the first and the second generation and first was on sale. The reason i decided to buy the rincon and not the clifton is that versatility you talked about since i only have one pair i'm running in.
QD: i have both clifton 6 and rincon 1 and are both amazing! Cliftons for long and easy runs and Rincons for tempo and threshold runs. I also alternate them with other brands to have more ground contact feeling.
Just got into running and will only be running on roads. I’m thinking of getting the Rincon 2’s over the Clifeton. I’m sure they’ll be like night and day compared to my £35 Kamora’s
Picked up the rincon on aug 1st, ran in them more than expected through August and was hooked... durability is my only concern, outsole is starting to look a little shredded after only 170 miles. Decided to pick up some Clifton 7s at the start of September to add to the rotation and I’m enjoying them as well. Totally agree that the rincon are more versatile, I was reaching for them for many different runs. Think i will enjoy the Clifton as a daily trainer/ long run shoe. Watched this video a while back to decide which of the two to get and ended up buying both. Hoka should give you a commission 😀
QD: I bought the Clifton 6 and am loving them so far. I was tempted to get the Rincon, but I've heard some disappointing things about them dying prematurely
The Rincon is the best daily Trainor I've ever used, it feels like a lightweight clifton 6. No shoe is perfect for everyone but cliftons feel too soft for me. The rincon outsole will show some wear quickly but who cares, I still get about 300-350 miles per pair. I'm on my third pair now and the price is right!
QD: I actually bought both a couple months ago as my first real running shoes because my legs felt tired and sore. I’m using the Clifton 6 as the daily trainer an the rincon as a planned race and PR shoe. Maybe they overlap too much but I’m enjoying them
I picked up the Clifton 6’s in January and I usually try to get a lot of versatility out of my shoes, but I’ve definitely not felt that with the Cliftons. I’d love to try the Rincon (1 or 2) this year.
rincon 1 has been so far the most enjoyable and versatile shoe ever for me.... just oredered the rincon 2....clifton 7 seems great but that responsiveness of the rincon is so fun!
QD: nabbed the Clifton 6 a few weeks ago since the Rincon 1 are nearly impossible to find in Canada anymore. Will switch to the Rincon 2 though once these are dead for a more versatile shoe. Great review!
I had both shoes last year and loved them each! I used the Rincon for faster stuff, like tempos, threshold runs, etc., and if I ran in my Clifton 6's the day before. The Clifton 6's were more of my go-to, but I think that is only because I bought them first. I would go with the Rincon of looking for a new pair. Rincon 2 might be even better if you can wait.
I bought the Clifton 6 and at 1st it was the best running shoe ever but after a couple of weeks I started to get shin splints and noticed I was landing on the outside kinda like supination. I have bad knees and my weight is 225 lb 6 ft tall. I Love Hoka and want to stay with them but need good cushion but firm and some what of a supination to fix the problem.
QOD: got the Rincon in 2019 and can't be happier, one of the best purchases I have done. I would buy another pair without hesitation, almost did recently but decided to give a try on Novablast.
QD: I got the rincon 1 and was really excited, but if I’m honest it didn’t quite hit the mark with me! I had just ran through my first pair of beacons and I think that was a hard show to follow. I also picked up runners knee while in the rincons so maybe subliminally I associate that pain with them. Have always wanted a pair of new Cliftons! I love soft mid soles... no idea why I’ve never bought a Clifton???... I do have a question! Which would you say was more soft and squishy - the Clifton 7, the ASICS Novablast, or the Skechers Maxroad 4?? Would love to know your opinion on that. Many thanks
Have the Clifton 6 in wide, but not yet a fan. Only a few runs and about 10 miles so far but there has been some pain under foot near the big toe. Will keep trying these but I'm enjoying some of the New Balance and Altra shoes so much, not sure how I'll work in the Cliftons.
qd: i have the rincon and in combination with the Asics glide ride it is (for me) the perfect combination. I'm now very tempted by the Saucony endorphin speed.
QD: I will definitely pick up both pairs once they drop to the public! Haven't had a pair of Hokas for years, but will get back into the swing of things in the next couple of months!! Can't wait to get them under my legs and see how they feel for myself. Love the videos!! Super helpful, fun, and inspiring :)
Nike supposedly got into the heel flare because Mo Farah has achilles issues and would modify his shoes to apply less pressure to his ankles and so for the Peg 35 they added the flare to reduce achilles irritation.
Would love it if you included more information on toebox/forefoot room. Many of us need a bit of room. Was hoping this comparision would not if toebox is same or different between these as I like my Rincon2's, but would like a bit more width.
@@SethJamesDeMoor You're awesome Seth! I found the Clifton 6's on deep discount and decided to try them compared to the Rincon2's as a long run/base mileage shoe.
QD: I have both, the Clifton 6 and the Rincon 1. Durability for the Clifton is very good on my pair. I have 950km on them and they are still working very well! I had the Clifton 5 and i got about 1300km out of them! So I think the Clifton 6/7 will also be on this range... The Rincon doesn't hold up for a long time (I think max 500km...), I'm already seeing some wear at 150km. I like Hokas for my easy runs and long runs - and therefore i prefer the Clifton lineup over the Rincon. I like the longevity of the Cliftons!
QD- recently picked up rincon 1 when they went on sale. As a guy who’s been primarily Nike I’d definitely recommend for anyone looking to branch out of Nike in particular.
QD: Had both the Rincon 1 and the Clifton 6. Preferred the Clifton for the upper and softer midsole, and am actually on my second pair of 6's now. May pick up a few more pairs of both while they are still available on sale. Both great shoes.
Thanks for the comparison! Love the Rincons, unfortunately the cushioning broke down very suddenly at about 300k. 400k max at least for me, running on asphalt and weighing about 74kg.
QD: I have not tried either. I have been transitioning from stability shoes of late so I plan to give them a try after I move on from my Ravenna 11s and the Hyperion Tempos I just broke out a couple weeks ago.
QD: purchased Rincon earlier this year. Use mine for tempo and some easy runs. I ended up using a Curex insert for mine and it has turned into a top shoe in my rotation. I may purchase the Rincon 2 or rebuy the 1 if there’s a solid sale.
Hi Sir...I have the Clifton 6 and todate I still believe it's marshmallowest and softest ever! I do look forward to the 7. But yes, for daily training and baby-ing the legs the Cliftons will be it. This in mind, I appreciate the Bondi's for long runs for the protection it gives due to the stack height. BUT, with your thoughts on Rincon, if I had the budget, I will also get one pair as well! Best regards!
I didn’t buy either of those shoes for myself, however I did buy a pair of Clifton 6’s for my girlfriend and she loves them. The Clifton 7’s are on her radar no doubt.
I ran my first 10K in the original Rincon and it was perfect. Great cushioning and relatively light, not like a racing shoe but lighter than most trainers. I'm in my second pair and might buy another.
QD: After about 275 miles in the Rincon it’s finally starting to break down and doesn’t feel as “springy” That said it’s one hell of a shoe, a tad narrow at first but the upper is able to accommodate over time. Looking forward to my next pair 💯🤘
I wear women’s size 8 typically and I have a medium arch. I believe the Clifton 7 is suited for medium arches which is the type of arch I have. 💙🧡💕 I like the black Iris/Blue Haze
My beloved Rincon 1 went flat after 100 miles. It feels as if the midsole lost both the absorption and the return abilities. I'm a 65kg runner, 190 steps per minute. Used the Rincon just for those 10mile runs, at medium speeds. Up to this point, they were amazing. My previous shoe for those types of runs, were the Nike Turbo. They held a respectable 450 miles. From my wife's experience, the clifton 6 are good for these distances as well (450 miles. She just bought her 3rd pair. Same stats as mine, though somewhat lower speeds). I also use the NB fuelcell rebel as my tempo shoes. They are way less forgiving than the Rincon, though feel faster and more 'sporty'. Unexpectedly, I'm afraid that the Rincon will be now replaced with the saucony endorphin speed.
QD: Have both the Rincon 1 and Clifton 6... I like the Atreyu stinger for daily miles, LR, some tempo work now that the Hokas are about retired. Atreyu less expensive, better ground contact, super midsole and upper. Durability an issue but that fits into the subscription dealio.
QD: I used the Ricon 1 and absolutely loved the shoe up until about 140 miles. After that the shoe seemed to wear exponentially. I’m on the fence if I am going to get a second pair because I loved the shoe but don’t want to have to get a new pair every month or so. If I could get 4+ months out of them then they would be my go to every time.
Q.D i had the Clifton 5 i found the midsole just too marshmallow and soft for me, i did a lot of training millage in the shoes a few races (approximately 400 miles) and would say are a good, go to shoe and can be used for all round comfortable Trainer. I would like to say the Torrrent mk1 i am a big fan of this shoe, it is my prefered choice in the Hoka trail line, due to its versitility and weight, i have used it for 50K 100k and 100 mile races of varing terrain and training. Looking forward to getting a pair of th mk2 as it looks like they have made it more durable ☺
• Hoka Rincon, men's ($115): www.runningwarehouse.com/catpage-MRFHOKARIN.html?from=demoor
• Women's ($115): www.runningwarehouse.com/catpage-WRFHOKARIN.html?from=demoor
QD: I have both the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1. I’d call it a tie but can’t see the Rincon as a daily trainer as the outsole wears down so quickly... I’ll pick up the Clifton 7 soon!
QD: Both. Love them both for what they are. Easy day/Longer runs go to the Clifton. Tempo and intervals go to the Rincon
I got the rincon 1 and I LOVED them! If I can only get one this year I might lean towards trying the clifton this time just to get the clifton experience!
I owned both the C6 and R1. Loved the feel of both but purchased the R1 first then C6 following 3 months. The Rincon became my daily trainer at first and it truly is a versatile shoe. However, when the C6 arrived I really appreciated the comfort of the upper and the balanced midsole of the C6. The Rincon did me well for summer of 2019 but as Fall approach it was all Clifton. As I continued to racked more miles, I came to settled on the Clifton 6 as the superior shoe. I enjoyed my runs much more and it was the shoe that got me to my first half marathon as a born again runner :) Despite what folks say, I find the C6 can easily handle a good uptempo run and I find that I was able to keep my pace more consistent over a longer distance. With the Rincon, my legs often began to fatigue by mile 10. I ran both shoes in comparison many times and keeping close attention to pace, cadence and my heart rate, the Clifton 6 can match the Rincon with no leg fatigue for me. I loved the C6 so much I purchased the reissued Clifton 1 to see what the hype was about. Was the Rincon a resurrected Clifton 1? As I find many similarities between the two in the midsole, weight and just overall feel. My Rincons felt shot at about 180 miles as outsole wore out and midsole felt dead flat and it’s retired. Last week, I retired the Clifton 6 with about 500+ miles! I’ll be purchasing the Clifton 7 and perhaps the 6 on sale. For now, it’s the Asics Glideride and Clifton 1 for my daily trainers as I await the 7.
QD: RINCON! The most fun shoe I've run in, in years (and I include the Novablast in that). I will buy the 2's as soon as they come out. With the Novablast and the Bondi 6, I've got a reasonable rotation set up. I only ever want to go as long as a half marathon distance so I'm all good.
QD: Ran in the Clifton 6 for most of 2019, ran a half in it. Loved it!!! Bought the Bondi 6 next in early 2020 and it’s my daily go to trainer. Got 300 miles on the pair as of now. Still in good shape. Love the comfort. Yes I think I will buy the Rincon 1 or 2 or maybe both since the 1 is on sale right now 🤠🇺🇸👍
I ran in both the Clifton 6 and Rincon. The Rincon was definitely my favorite and I had a couple pairs of them. I enjoyed the cushion on the Clifton but it gave me blisters on the inside of my foot. Love your videos Seth!
Rincon 1 wasn't offered in a wide version so I went with the Clifton 6 at the time. This year I've gone with the 880v10.
I just ordered the rincon 1 through your running warehouse link. It will be my first Hoka and I am trying them because of your channel:)
During this covid situation; I was able to keep sane because I found this channel and got the Clifton 6's. I do think I will be getting the Rincon 2 next. Keep it up!
Have over 400 miles in the Rincon 1 and loved every mile, other than the premature wear on the bottoms within 50 miles. Could feel the breakdown in the legs around 300 miles but still got over 400 miles in them. Already preorder the Rincon 2, can't wait for them to show up!
Beginnee runner here. And clifton 7 is my first hoka. Totally love it. Got my PR in 5k, 10k, 15k, and completed my first half marathon in it as well.
Absolutely amazing shoes.
Just bought rincon 2 aftee this review. Let's see if I can have new PR for 5k and 10k!
QD: I had the Rincon 1 and really liked the weight and cushioning. The downside is they are too narrow, typical Hoka. I am always baffled by the shape of Hoka shoes, they just dont seem foot shaped but maybe it's just me. I may try the Rincon 2's or the new Clifton's but time will tell.
Michael Dominic try the Hoka Elevon 2, it’s definitely wider than the Rincon2
@@paulforder3037 thanks! I'll check them out
Can the Clifton 7s be used for long runs?
@@LuisMartinez-ih2oc Absolutely. It's a very popular long run shoe.
@@michaeldominic2070 . Thanks for your input, I just ordered a pair last night and it’ll be my first time trying a Hoka shoe.
Seth you’ve gotta review the endorphin speed, I like it even more than the endorphin pro. Probably the best shoe I’ve ever owned. Perfect tempo/threshold day shoe
QD: Clifton 6 and no - too squishy for me even for recovery days
Just picked up Clifton 7 today! I have Endorphin speeds for my tempo and threshold days. Just got the Clifton for slow easy long runs and recovery!
QD: have had multiple pairs of each. Rincon starts to bottom out after 250 miles or so while I can put 5-600 on my clifton 6’s before they’re shot. As far as versatility, while not as light, I have no problems clicking 5 minute miles in my clifton 6 because of the meta rocker and relatively bouncy midsole.
Picked up two pairs of Rincon 1’s last year and it became my favorite shoe. Don’t notice enough of a difference between the 1 and 2 to get the 2’s so I just ordered two more pairs of the 1’s on sale. 😃
I had the Clifton 3, 4, and 5. I tried on the Rincon 2's last week and immediately made the purchase to the Rincons. Can't wait to put the miles in on these and test them compared to some of the older Cliftons. The Clifton will probably still be one of my all time favorite shoes. IT'S HOKA BABY!!!
I currently use both the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1. As a 205 lb, 53 yr old newer runner, the Hoka Rincon 1 saved me. 8 months of frustrating knee and calf pain were finally overcome when I switched from using the Cliftons to the Rincons. The way the Rincon absorbs impact is so forgiving and my legs recover easier. I do race in Nike Peg Turbo 2's (5-10K's) as the Rincon's don't work for me above tempo. As for the Clifton 6, this is the best walking shoe ever, and if you are ever in need of a shoe for a long day on your feet choose this shoe.
I went with the Rincon 1 in 2019 and it was absolutely amazing!! The best shoe I think I’ve ever had. I am going to go with the Rincon 2 for 2020, tried the carbon x but it was uncomfortable so we’re going back with the Rincon!
I tried both of them in recently and ended up picking up the Rincon 2. I am excited to see how many awesome runs I have in these. First run was good ran in paces from 6:30 to 11:00 minute miles and it seemed to do well at all paces
Love my rincon.....just ordered the Clifton 7, which was released just yesterday here in Germany...will also buy the rincon 2 when it comes out. Cheers from Berlin, Germany...
So u like clifton 7 more then clifton 6 what's the difference u felt
@@speed_will no .Never owned a pair pf the 6..
QD Both. The Clifton 6 took some getting used to. Not sure why but my feet would get numb on 6 to 10 mile runs until about 30 miles. PR’ed a half 3 weeks in. 450 miles on the Clifton. Followed up with Rincon. No break in period. So much lighter and less bulky. 160 miles in and counting. I would buy either one or maybe both in a rotation. Enjoy the reviews...keep up the good work!
Loved the Rincon from last year. Moved on to the Fuelcell Rebel for this year. Probably going to move to the Rincon 2 soon.
Great shoes.
Been using the Rincon 1 for about 25-30 miles. Love them and will pick up the Rincon 2 as soon as they go on sale.
I tried the Rincon, but it was just too narrow of a shoe. After returning the Rincon, I bought the Asics Novablast and I love them!
Same here... Loved loved the shoe.... so comfy and reactive, just not wide enough... Tried the wide Clifton 7 and there is nothing wide about it. No room for the toes. Went with Brooks Glycerine and NB 1500. NB is great for fast day and Brooks ok for the long runs.
Rincons (1.0) have been a weird experience for me. The first few runs I really didn't understand the hype...they felt soft but not uniquely cushioned, light but not featherweight, and the upper felt narrow in the toe box. Just "ok".
Then I got around to 50ish miles over the next few weeks and they really started to grow on me. Fast forward another few months and the outsoles are totally chewed up. I'm not sure if this shoe will make it to 250 miles, unfortunately.
Same. I can’t wear them. I’ll just stick with Altras.
I had the same experience and also bought the Novablast for my faster days. My only issue with the Novablast is that they feel quite big... Do you have the same problem? Maybe i will try a smaller size next time or stick to the Gliderides which i use for my long runs. I think those will do great on Tempo days as well.
@@mwmstals The Novablast do feel wide at first, but after tightening the lower laces the toe box felt smaller and overall the shoe felt less wide.
Excellent , funny, I have the Clifton 7, just bought the rincon 2, great review!
LOVE the Rincon 1, and plan on buying the Rincon 2 this year. Thanks Seth!
I have ben a faithful New Balance runner for a long time. I just bought my first pair of Hokas , the Clifton 7, about a month ago. I have no complaints about this shoe and It would be hard to get me to run in anything else.
Ran in the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1 all last year except for trails. Trails it was Hoka Atr5 and occasionally speedgoats.
I give the edge to the Clifton simply because the Rincons didn’t hold up for me - no way could I get 300 miles out of them before the outsoles were trashed. Even after a first run they would show obvious wear. Maybe it’s my running form others have a different experience. The Clifton also comes in a wide option which I prefer. Thanks for the discussion of the 7. I’ll be grabbing a pair when they’re available for sure. 👍🏃♂️🏃♂️
The Rincon 2’s are out in the EU store for folks who don’t know! Only a few size 8’s left I seen on the official site
Just ordered the Clifton 7s for everyday training thanks for the review
I got the Rincon 1 in march and will definitely buy the Rincon 2 when the 1's are worn out. So light and cushioned. Reminds me a bit of the beacon, but feels faster. I don't agree with those who says it feels a bit unstable.
QD: Picked up the Rincon last year but retired it early because of its narrow last. It was hell for my feet. I very much liked the ride though, but Hokas are just too damn narrow for my forefoot. It's hard to beat the Novablast in versatility for anything but races, and the reason ASICS is generally more available in Europe, and Hoka only online directly from them, but I am tempted to grab a Clifton 7 in 2E.
I had the same problem with the hokas
sportsshoes.com have the Clifton 7 on sale right now :)
yo same here. i loved the ride, felt really really fast (for me) but it was just so awful for my feet. i would have to ice my feet, foam roll my shins, etc. I do wanna try the Clifton 7 in 2e though...
Love these comparisons. Keep it rolling Seth.
Rincon for the road and torrent 2 for the dirt at the moment. I used to run nike all day but I'm now a hoka convert. No more injuries with the hokas. It's all personal preference at the end of the day.
Received my Rincons 2 today and after 5mins they were in the box again on the way back to Hoka. I was kind of hyped. I love Clifton 6 and I use them as a core of my marathon training. I was looking for an addition for some shorter, faster runs. Straight away I could tell you how sqashed my toes were! They reminded me of Kinvara 11. And I don't even have wide feet. They're bit too narrow though. I figured that I can be as fast as I want in Cliftons. Really - if needs be fast days can be done in Peg Turbos (still too narrow, espec. Peg 2 for me).
After 700km there's still some life in my Cliftons and when the time comes they will be replaced by 7. Runcons - overhyped.
NB Beacon is my go to light do it all shoe!
Many many thanks for such a detailed comparison!! I’ve bought the Rincon 2 and they’re just wonderful. Ran my first 22 km for two days and feel great about it’s comfort and speed. What do you think of Rincon 2 for a city marathon?..
QD: I had the the Clifton 5 and Rincon. Hoka shoes have started failing me way to quickely in the last year or so. The foam just gets eaten up in the heels. I am just going to look for something else this year.
Raymond Morrow I had the Clifton 5 a year ago and absolutely hated it, but I just got the Clifton 6 last week and I love it! I would wait to change it up bc the Clifton 5 is very different from the 6
@@Jon-nk5rv I've used three pairs of clifton 6 wide this last year. I'm a heavy runner, weighing in at 110 kg's. So to me it's important to have a solid mid-sole. Absolutely agree- clifton 6 is a big step up from the 5.
Purchased Rincon 1 ran a 1/2 and several 5's love it almost as much as my Clayton 2s. Not yet up to Clifton 6s - I'm on my Clifton 4s which are ok for my long runs. Also use Mach 1s in my rotation and just got a Mach 2s. Just purchased another Rincon 1's on sale and will also upgrade to a Clifton 6 also on sale. Now's the time to get all the Hoka's you love or will love.
We have Clifton 7 and Rincon 2 here already. I still prefer Rincon 2 though. :)
I have two pairs of each the Clifton 6 and Rincon. Working through the first pairs, recently bought second pairs on sale. Use Clifton for long runs Rincons for shorter faster days. Love them both. Probably will not buy the 7s or Rincon 2s until next spring or summer if at all as already have a second pair of ea that hasn’t been run in as well as other shoes in the rotation.
I love my RIncons, but I feel like the Atreyu fits a similar spot in the rotation. I have the Clifton 6 and they’re my first Cliftons - I simply love them for Monday morning easy runs! I’ll definitely get the 7’s when these run their course.
QD: i purchased the Rincon for the price and versatility. I just love how rested my legs feel when I run in them.
I've used the Rincon 1 a lot since last summer, even did a marathon in the Rincon and absolutely love it, sadly the outsole started wearing down after about 500km. Also picked up the Clifton 6 a while back but havnt really found the perfect use for it yet. Might be picking up the Rincon 2!
QD: Loved the OG Cliftons. Love the Challenger ATR 5. Clifton 6 was a miss for me. Hate the bucket "seat" component to Hoka's Road shoes because it gives me blisters every single time at ball of foot (Arahi 3, Bondi 6 as well). Tried the Clifton 6 wide and my foot was swimming and I did not find it responsive enough! So no Clifton 7 for me and the Rincon - forget about it for anyone except narrow footed folks.
I LOVE the Novablast, Endorphin Speed, and the Glideride. Even enjoying Adrenaline GTS20, Evoride, Salomon Balance 3, NB 1080v10 and 880v10. Endorphin Shift I'm still evaluating but it's not as good as the Glidride for my feet. Given all the newer shoes from established companies including more room in width and toe box with great new cushion - frankly I don't think Hoka with the narrowness (loved the OG Hoka's and wore them out) holds up unless you have narrow feet. JMHO.
interesting you found the Rincon narrow. my Rincons actually fit wider than my 2E Clifton 6's. might still be worth a try-on if you haven't had them on foot yet.
@@mcm4point2o I tried the original but it's been a while. I'll certainly try them on if I find in a store. I love the cushion of the Clifton 6 - just not the upper.
I found the Clifton to be a bit narrow in the toebox, too. Took me a while to figure it out.
@@mcm4point2o So I just got a pair of Rincon 2. My local REI had them in stock and the new upper is so much better than the original for my feet. They aren't as narrow as the v1 and seem to fit better overall. I've been wearing them around and so far, so good. Thanks for the comment because I remembered it when I went in and decided to try them on just to see!
I bought the Rincons and have enjoyed them a lot. I am a heavier runner who is just getting into running and haven’t quite put 50 miles in them, but am wearing them out kind of quickly. I would love to try out the Cliftons next, but I don’t know if I will completely upgrade to the 7. Just thinking I might need a little more rubber.
I have both the Clifton 6 and Rincon 1. I much preferred the Clifton 6 over the 5, just felt a better fit and generally a better look and shoe. Then... I bought the Rincon. Loved them. Tend to wear them more often now especially for runs between 5 and 1/2 marathon. I would say the Clifton 6 feels more comfortable over longer distances. It’s a shame the rincons soles wear down pretty quick! Nice review btw!
I had 2 of the original clifton 1 and went through 4 pairs of the repopped clifton 1. Got 700-800 miles per pair. Running in the Clifton 6 and just ordered the Rincon 2 because of the lighter weight.
I loved both the Clifton 6 and the Rincon 1. Everyone said the Clifton 7 was virtually the same as the Clifton 6, so I bought a pair, but unfortunately I didn't find that to be the case. The heal counter was a bit uncomfortable and I started forming a blister on the medial side of my arch. Another thing to note with this comparison, Rincon outsoles are really not that durable when compared to the Clifton. I consistently bring Cliftons well over 400 miles before I retire them, but all the Rincons I've owned have felt pretty shot after only 250-350 miles. I know this is hard to tell after only 50 miles, but just what I've observed.
I’ll be getting the Rincon 2 as a daily trainer. Never used Hoka before. I had Nike free 3.0 for 9 years, just now retired them this year. It’ll be a nice upgrade 😅
QD: Bought the Rincon 1 last year. Absolutely loved the ride and midsole foam. Reached for them the day after a race without fail! Love the Rincon!
QD: Bought the Rincon 1 in 2019 and it was SO comfortable on the long runs but also snappy enough for the faster paced days. Just purchased the Clifton 6 about 3 months ago to replace the Clifton 5 knit....wow what a upgrade! Fit and feel were fantastic in both.
qod : I bought both from an online reseller. The problem with the Rincon is (as other responders have mentioned as well) it is quite narrow in the upper, especially around the midfoot. The Rincon has a paper thin inlay sole, and since i use customized inlay soles there is no room left for my feet. I could feel the quality of the shoe but i was really gutted that i could not use it more than once. Luckily i could return the shoe. I am loving the Clifton 6 though for my easy days, will pick up a second (and maybe third) pair now the price is dropping.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner! I have the good fortune of having a great local running shoe/apparel/supplement store that has a running club which meets on Saturdays! The big bonus is each week they feature a tester shoe which you can run in with no obligation to buy. Today's model? The Hoka Rincon 2 :-) I immediately liked how they felt when I put them on. I already have the Clifton 7, love 'em. Took the Rincon 2's out for a 5 miles test drive. Woohoo! This is a fun, fast, and comfortable shoe. Hoka may become my only brand eventually. I love Skechers but running stores don't carry them and there own retail outlets have no selection or poor outdated ones!! Go figure! This means you have to buy them online without feeling them in person. I hope my Club will get a chance to test drive the Hoka Mach 4's soon.
I bought two pairs of the Clifton 6 and the original Rincon last year. I plan to pick up another pair of the Clifton 6 on sale probably this week just because I like them that much.
Just bought a second pair of the Rincon 1. I realized there isn't much difference between the first and the second generation and first was on sale. The reason i decided to buy the rincon and not the clifton is that versatility you talked about since i only have one pair i'm running in.
QD: i have both clifton 6 and rincon 1 and are both amazing! Cliftons for long and easy runs and Rincons for tempo and threshold runs. I also alternate them with other brands to have more ground contact feeling.
Just got into running and will only be running on roads. I’m thinking of getting the Rincon 2’s over the Clifeton. I’m sure they’ll be like night and day compared to my £35 Kamora’s
It might be even earlier, bc on the Hoka website has the Rincon 2 and Clifton 7 for pre order. The price didn’t change too!!
Love the Clifton 6 but I am going to try the Rincon 2 once it drops!
Picked up the rincon on aug 1st, ran in them more than expected through August and was hooked... durability is my only concern, outsole is starting to look a little shredded after only 170 miles. Decided to pick up some Clifton 7s at the start of September to add to the rotation and I’m enjoying them as well. Totally agree that the rincon are more versatile, I was reaching for them for many different runs. Think i will enjoy the Clifton as a daily trainer/ long run shoe.
Watched this video a while back to decide which of the two to get and ended up buying both. Hoka should give you a commission 😀
Got the Clifton 6 last year and it was brilliant when my legs are very sore from tuff week of training
QD: I bought the Clifton 6 and am loving them so far. I was tempted to get the Rincon, but I've heard some disappointing things about them dying prematurely
The Rincon is the best daily Trainor I've ever used, it feels like a lightweight clifton 6. No shoe is perfect for everyone but cliftons feel too soft for me. The rincon outsole will show some wear quickly but who cares, I still get about 300-350 miles per pair. I'm on my third pair now and the price is right!
QD: I actually bought both a couple months ago as my first real running shoes because my legs felt tired and sore. I’m using the Clifton 6 as the daily trainer an the rincon as a planned race and PR shoe. Maybe they overlap too much but I’m enjoying them
I picked up the Clifton 6’s in January and I usually try to get a lot of versatility out of my shoes, but I’ve definitely not felt that with the Cliftons. I’d love to try the Rincon (1 or 2) this year.
Picked up a pair of the Rincon 1’s because of this review. Currently running in the Bondi 6 but feels a little heavy for daily runs
rincon 1 has been so far the most enjoyable and versatile shoe ever for me.... just oredered the rincon 2....clifton 7 seems great but that responsiveness of the rincon is so fun!
QD: nabbed the Clifton 6 a few weeks ago since the Rincon 1 are nearly impossible to find in Canada anymore. Will switch to the Rincon 2 though once these are dead for a more versatile shoe. Great review!
I had both shoes last year and loved them each! I used the Rincon for faster stuff, like tempos, threshold runs, etc., and if I ran in my Clifton 6's the day before. The Clifton 6's were more of my go-to, but I think that is only because I bought them first. I would go with the Rincon of looking for a new pair. Rincon 2 might be even better if you can wait.
I bought the Clifton 6 and at 1st it was the best running shoe ever but after a couple of weeks I started to get shin splints and noticed I was landing on the outside kinda like supination. I have bad knees and my weight is 225 lb 6 ft tall. I Love Hoka and want to stay with them but need good cushion but firm and some what of a supination to fix the problem.
QOD: got the Rincon in 2019 and can't be happier, one of the best purchases I have done. I would buy another pair without hesitation, almost did recently but decided to give a try on Novablast.
I'm running in the Clifton 6 at the minute but I'm going to replace them with the Rincon 2 when they become available in the uk.
QD: I got the rincon 1 and was really excited, but if I’m honest it didn’t quite hit the mark with me! I had just ran through my first pair of beacons and I think that was a hard show to follow. I also picked up runners knee while in the rincons so maybe subliminally I associate that pain with them. Have always wanted a pair of new Cliftons! I love soft mid soles... no idea why I’ve never bought a Clifton???... I do have a question! Which would you say was more soft and squishy - the Clifton 7, the ASICS Novablast, or the Skechers Maxroad 4?? Would love to know your opinion on that. Many thanks
I bought the Rincon 1 loved it. Looking forward to trying the Clifton 7.
Have the Clifton 6 in wide, but not yet a fan. Only a few runs and about 10 miles so far but there has been some pain under foot near the big toe. Will keep trying these but I'm enjoying some of the New Balance and Altra shoes so much, not sure how I'll work in the Cliftons.
Not tried either of these, the Hoka's i use are Speedgoat & the ATR. I might have to try Clifton & Rincon to see how they are 👍🏃
qd: i have the rincon and in combination with the Asics glide ride it is (for me) the perfect combination. I'm now very tempted by the Saucony endorphin speed.
QD: I will definitely pick up both pairs once they drop to the public! Haven't had a pair of Hokas for years, but will get back into the swing of things in the next couple of months!! Can't wait to get them under my legs and see how they feel for myself.
Love the videos!! Super helpful, fun, and inspiring :)
Nike supposedly got into the heel flare because Mo Farah has achilles issues and would modify his shoes to apply less pressure to his ankles and so for the Peg 35 they added the flare to reduce achilles irritation.
Would love it if you included more information on toebox/forefoot room. Many of us need a bit of room. Was hoping this comparision would not if toebox is same or different between these as I like my Rincon2's, but would like a bit more width.
Noted! Thanks Chris
@@SethJamesDeMoor You're awesome Seth! I found the Clifton 6's on deep discount and decided to try them compared to the Rincon2's as a long run/base mileage shoe.
Nice!! Good find
QD: I have both, the Clifton 6 and the Rincon 1. Durability for the Clifton is very good on my pair. I have 950km on them and they are still working very well! I had the Clifton 5 and i got about 1300km out of them! So I think the Clifton 6/7 will also be on this range...
The Rincon doesn't hold up for a long time (I think max 500km...), I'm already seeing some wear at 150km.
I like Hokas for my easy runs and long runs - and therefore i prefer the Clifton lineup over the Rincon. I like the longevity of the Cliftons!
Thank you! I just ordered the Clifton 6 and was worried they would not last.
QD- recently picked up rincon 1 when they went on sale. As a guy who’s been primarily Nike I’d definitely recommend for anyone looking to branch out of Nike in particular.
QD: Had both the Rincon 1 and the Clifton 6. Preferred the Clifton for the upper and softer midsole, and am actually on my second pair of 6's now. May pick up a few more pairs of both while they are still available on sale. Both great shoes.
Thanks for the comparison! Love the Rincons, unfortunately the cushioning broke down very suddenly at about 300k. 400k max at least for me, running on asphalt and weighing about 74kg.
Same issue with me here. Very good smooth ride initially but Midsole went dead around 300+km. Caused me shin splints twice. Threw the pair away!
Yeah, got to 370k in them and knew they were shot. Then none available in my size to replace. Every k before that last 10 or so was a delight though.
QD: I have not tried either. I have been transitioning from stability shoes of late so I plan to give them a try after I move on from my Ravenna 11s and the Hyperion Tempos I just broke out a couple weeks ago.
QD: purchased Rincon earlier this year. Use mine for tempo and some easy runs. I ended up using a Curex insert for mine and it has turned into a top shoe in my rotation. I may purchase the Rincon 2 or rebuy the 1 if there’s a solid sale.
Bought the clifton 6. Loved it for those long runs.
Hi Sir...I have the Clifton 6 and todate I still believe it's marshmallowest and softest ever! I do look forward to the 7. But yes, for daily training and baby-ing the legs the Cliftons will be it. This in mind, I appreciate the Bondi's for long runs for the protection it gives due to the stack height. BUT, with your thoughts on Rincon, if I had the budget, I will also get one pair as well! Best regards!
I didn’t buy either of those shoes for myself, however I did buy a pair of Clifton 6’s for my girlfriend and she loves them. The Clifton 7’s are on her radar no doubt.
The Clifton 6 and rincon 1 are already discounted in a few places! Snagged some rincons last week for $90
I ran my first 10K in the original Rincon and it was perfect. Great cushioning and relatively light, not like a racing shoe but lighter than most trainers. I'm in my second pair and might buy another.
QD: After about 275 miles in the Rincon it’s finally starting to break down and doesn’t feel as “springy” That said it’s one hell of a shoe, a tad narrow at first but the upper is able to accommodate over time. Looking forward to my next pair 💯🤘
I wear women’s size 8 typically and I have a medium arch. I believe the Clifton 7 is suited for medium arches which is the type of arch I have. 💙🧡💕 I like the black Iris/Blue Haze
My beloved Rincon 1 went flat after 100 miles. It feels as if the midsole lost both the absorption and the return abilities. I'm a 65kg runner, 190 steps per minute. Used the Rincon just for those 10mile runs, at medium speeds. Up to this point, they were amazing. My previous shoe for those types of runs, were the Nike Turbo. They held a respectable 450 miles. From my wife's experience, the clifton 6 are good for these distances as well (450 miles. She just bought her 3rd pair. Same stats as mine, though somewhat lower speeds). I also use the NB fuelcell rebel as my tempo shoes. They are way less forgiving than the Rincon, though feel faster and more 'sporty'. Unexpectedly, I'm afraid that the Rincon will be now replaced with the saucony endorphin speed.
QD: Have both the Rincon 1 and Clifton 6... I like the Atreyu stinger for daily miles, LR, some tempo work now that the Hokas are about retired. Atreyu less expensive, better ground contact, super midsole and upper. Durability an issue but that fits into the subscription dealio.
QD: I used the Ricon 1 and absolutely loved the shoe up until about 140 miles. After that the shoe seemed to wear exponentially. I’m on the fence if I am going to get a second pair because I loved the shoe but don’t want to have to get a new pair every month or so. If I could get 4+ months out of them then they would be my go to every time.
Q.D i had the Clifton 5 i found the midsole just too marshmallow and soft for me, i did a lot of training millage in the shoes a few races (approximately 400 miles) and would say are a good, go to shoe and can be used for all round comfortable Trainer.
I would like to say the Torrrent mk1 i am a big fan of this shoe, it is my prefered choice in the Hoka trail line, due to its versitility and weight, i have used it for 50K 100k and 100 mile races of varing terrain and training. Looking forward to getting a pair of th mk2 as it looks like they have made it more durable ☺