I'm glad there's finally an option out there for the camel-curious. Not that I'M camel-curious. No sir, I'm definitely all about the knight line. But I'm glad it's an option. For those other people.
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever . The game designers did a great job with the Berbers , they didn't do a great job with the Saracens , the special unit is ridiculous , its a ninja on a east Asian Mongolian camel that throws a huge sword ??? For the Saracens I would have added a camel rider with a musket , the camel should not be a Mongolian camel , its historically inaccurate
I love Berber history, it's crazy how much influence they had over the mediterranean for so long, while going often unmentioned. Really glad to see them repped in aoe.
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever . The game designers did a great job with the Berbers , they didn't do a great job with the Saracens , the special unit is ridiculous , its a ninja on a east Asian Mongolian camel that throws a huge sword ??? For the Saracens I would have added a camel rider with a musket , the camel should not be a Mongolian camel , its historically inaccurate
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever . The game designers did a great job with the Berbers , they didn't do a great job with the Saracens , the special unit is ridiculous , its a ninja on a east Asian Mongolian camel that throws a huge sword ??? For the Saracens I would have added a camel rider with a musket , the camel should not be a Mongolian camel , its historically inaccurate
I played AoE2 when I was less than 10 years old. Now I'm 25 years old, watching SotL's highly informative videos before bed for both nostalgia and relaxation after a long day. Keep it up, SotL!
How did Berber kingdom make a living during the time of AOE 2? Malians had mines, Egyptians had farms, Saracens had spice trades, what did Berbers, who located on the opposite end of Mediterranean sea had for the source of money? And did Berbers turned to piracy in Age of Empires 3 (16-17th century) because they lost it?
Ah yes, my favorite anti-Mongol and anti-Hun civilization. Great stuff. One thing you should've mentioned with the Berber water bonus, though, is that it makes their Fire Ships and Demo Ships much more capable of reaching their targets. 10% speed might seem modest, but on water that's a big difference. For instance, it lets Berber Fast Fire Ships catch Viking Longboats, whereas every other civilization's ships (besides Demo ships) get outrun by Longboats.
I watch a new civ overview by Spirit. I think "Hey it's a nice civ, I should try it". I go online and get destroyed by cavalry all over my villagers. Every. Damn. Time.
i m a berberian my old family used to live in mountains in Morocco they had a lot of good horses and they were using raiding parties against the french so it make sence for me
I love this civ. Just played them. They're awesome. Tons of options for killing archers, cavalry, and infantry. Get a few battering rams and you've got a stew goin.
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 genituar are amazing though. I've personally held the line against 3 enemies at once with genitaur massed, camels, and bombard cannons to counter onagers.
I love your videos and all the tactics that you're outlying, even thought I'm incredibly slow thinking and would never be able to play competetive online.
I finally restarted to play this game after 12 years omg im struggling so much to take back tricks and how to play some civs😂😂 so ur civs reviews are really helpfull to play better on this fabulous game 👌 and i rly enjoy watching them just for fun, i love the intro and ur voice make it calm and pleasant to hear 😂 Sry for the english, trying to learn it :P Hope u will read this =D
8:40 That's assuming every camel in your army is injured simultaneously. Monks/Missionaries can focus the healing where it's actually needed, while camels can't.
2:49 somehow watching that boar sprint after the villager while Spirit's casually explaining in the background cracked me up. P.S. can't wait for the Ethiopians!
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever
1:51 Since this video might have new players in the audience, it might be worth noting that the "faster walk speed" bonus is not primarily an economic bonus. The more important factor of this bonus is that it enables Berber player to move villagers around the map faster, which is very useful in various situations: nomad, build military buildings next to your enemy, laming, boxing your enemy with walls, rushing for far away gold or stone mines, etc.. The bonus is a utility which enables all kinds of shenanigans and the economic upsides of the bonus are just side effects; not it's primary function.
I like how you look at different team bonuses with the special team units. Man all these expansion units being anti - unit type - unit type. I wonder if the Indian tech is bugged then, with it not performing as expected? Oh that's nice, I haven't really played the Berbers and I like playing the Mongols for their sweet Mangudai and how fun they are to control so that's cool that the camel archers have a quick response time. I'm disappointed there was no Rock the (C)Kasbah joke.
In my view, Berbers are an easy target for civilisation like Indians. Imperial Camel cuts through the cavalry and their infantry can be countered by the archers. A knight rush has to be defended though but having Camels does help.
I always thought that the Berbers would be the most OP of the African Kingdom civs when they were first being talked about. I felt this way because I always considered "Good Knight rush" to be synonymous with "Good civ", and Berbers had an awesome Knight rush. This made me come to the conclusion that they were going to be over powered and make for a stale meta. Now days, I feel like they're just perfectly balanced. I don't play them much since I'm not one for Knight rushing, but when I land them on random, I do enjoy myself. As for a request...I know you'll probably be doing all the African Kingdoms civs now. But when you get to Rise of the Rajas, can you do my favourite civ in the game (Yes, even more than the Byzantines D:), the Khmer?
They've been my favorite civ since african kingdoms came out, sorry franks! I absolutely love my knights and having great ranged units makes them oh so perfect. The castle age camel archer is basically a heavy cavalry archer that create waaaay faster, even without Kashba. I really think they should be an A+ cavalry civ though, the fact they are only missing paladins is weighed out by the sheer cheapness of the units.
Hey Spirit, I'd argue that the ship speed bonus gives their fire ships and demos a nice advantage on water. It's small, but being able to close the gap a bit faster with those units makes can make a huge difference in the long run!
Just to add, I also think that the no minimum range on the Inca Genitour might actually harm it when dealing with pikes. That automatic retreat it does when it's out of range would be a nice defense mechanism when surrounded by pikemen.
Lanchester's square law is a nice addition, but in meele fights it's way less of a factor than in ranged vs ranged fights, where units are constantly fightning, especially taking in consideration the bad pathfinding in the game, especially when rallied to battle.
Berbers with Vietnam Allies: We have the best Skimisher variants, nothing can defeat us from range. We have good camels to destroy calvary. We delarce supramacy! Huskarl: *shows up Berbers: Tactical blunder, RETREAT!
I usually play britons or mongols, but I like berbers too especially after researching agribah camels. My friend likes to play Gurjaras, so I should team up with him and bennefit from faster created camels. I'm glad to see they bennifit from herbal medicine, that ought to give them some battlefield longevity and save some gold that might otherwise be wasted.
why even tho the community is a lot less bigger (in active players) then about 1p.years ago it still has 7000 active players on steam so you can just play the game if you want.
Tbh, i only actually played it when it was released. Fuken 18 years ago!!! But i watch Spirit videos nevertheless. That combination of jokes, math and strategy somehow really works for me! :D
the villager speed bonus is good in nomad. It'll get your villagers to the TC site quicker and if you get into a villager war you can either get away from them or it's hard for them to get away from you.
I think the ship speed helps a lot in early game battles. Fire ships are more effective against enemy galleons and galleons are more effective against enemy fire ships.
What about berbers bonus of movement speed and both wheelbarrow and hand cart? In video you showed just table for wheelbarrow. When we count generic villager with both wheelbarrow and hand cart its speed is 0,968 on the other hand berber villager with both has speed 1,0648. Thank you for amazing video and answer to my question :) PS I am starting to be curious about ratio of gathering, walking and bringing of resources to TC during farming.
P0P218 Bonus-wise, they don't mesh well. Goths wouldn't benefit much, since they can train Huscarls from barracks. Still, the Genitour is nice to have. As for Berbers, they don't have great infantry, and their cavalry rushes are so good that they probably won't make much use of the Goth barracks bonus. Gameplay-wise, though, I think it could work well together. Berbers can use their great knight rush to buy the Goths time to build a powerful economy, then they raid and play support while the Goths flood with their infantry. This way, the Berbers offset the Goths's weaker early game, and the Goths offset the Berbers' somewhat weaker late game, when lacking halberdier and paladin can bite them in the butt.
After they introduced the Berbers as a civ, I never understood why they didn't change the magyars their light cavalry bonus. The magyars their light cavalry reduction cost needs to be changed IMO.
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I'm glad there's finally an option out there for the camel-curious. Not that I'M camel-curious. No sir, I'm definitely all about the knight line. But I'm glad it's an option. For those other people.
Camel Archer opppppppppppp
iTS OK TO BE CAMELCURIOUS! WE ARE BORN THAT WAY
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever . The game designers did a great job with the Berbers , they didn't do a great job with the Saracens , the special unit is ridiculous , its a ninja on a east Asian Mongolian camel that throws a huge sword ??? For the Saracens I would have added a camel rider with a musket , the camel should not be a Mongolian camel , its historically inaccurate
I hope you get canceled homophobia is not a joke
Berberians, all of them... Granted, their cavalry bonuses make them seem a bit more stable than other civs.
That one's awesome
get out
"Stable"
слава украине
Ber.Berbarian.Ber.Ber.Berbarian DAVE THE BERBARIIIIIIIAAAAAANNNNNN HUGE BUT A WIMP!!.
As an Algerian I'm feeling honored to include the berbers in the game,
pretty sure all north africans share this feeling to.
I love Berber history, it's crazy how much influence they had over the mediterranean for so long, while going often unmentioned. Really glad to see them repped in aoe.
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever . The game designers did a great job with the Berbers , they didn't do a great job with the Saracens , the special unit is ridiculous , its a ninja on a east Asian Mongolian camel that throws a huge sword ??? For the Saracens I would have added a camel rider with a musket , the camel should not be a Mongolian camel , its historically inaccurate
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 yea, werent mamelukes more like knights (heavy cav)? at least thats what they are in civilization
@Darkseid El Kabyle Punic what the fuck are you on
@@thresss5366 he’s on Arab nationalism drug
That infant-tree was a very nice touch.
I had to pause to understand what it actually was... :)
Infant tree ahahahahahahaha
our dear spirit of the law was in a pun mood today
LOL
I missed.. minute?
I turned off anime for this......it was cost effective
We need to become more cost effective.
It's alwats cost-effective turning off anime. :^)
There should be a Spirit of The Law anime.
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever . The game designers did a great job with the Berbers , they didn't do a great job with the Saracens , the special unit is ridiculous , its a ninja on a east Asian Mongolian camel that throws a huge sword ??? For the Saracens I would have added a camel rider with a musket , the camel should not be a Mongolian camel , its historically inaccurate
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 don’t wanna be that guy, but why are you commenting this here?
As a berber myself, it's nice to see my people getting some representation.
hhhhhh azul
Whats your mother language?isnt it French?
@@rafsan1578 it's Tamazight💪👍
ⵛⵎⵃⵛⵎⴽ
Azul mnwin rak nta/nti
I played AoE2 when I was less than 10 years old. Now I'm 25 years old, watching SotL's highly informative videos before bed for both nostalgia and relaxation after a long day.
Keep it up, SotL!
these bad boys will always have a special place in my heart because i finally managed to beat the moderate ai for the first time with them
As a Moroccan, the inclusion of Berbers in AOE made very happy
How did Berber kingdom make a living during the time of AOE 2? Malians had mines, Egyptians had farms, Saracens had spice trades, what did Berbers, who located on the opposite end of Mediterranean sea had for the source of money? And did Berbers turned to piracy in Age of Empires 3 (16-17th century) because they lost it?
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 berbers have blue eyes
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 maybe salt mines?
@@thanakonpraepanich4284
the had sugar *
gold
silver
and leather
@@AthenaMinerva1 they used to had before african Nation took over
when I hear the guitar solo part in your intro I am always happy :]
not that it matters much but its a bass
just fyi
Do you think your better than me?
I like it very much too.
I have a qurstiin about this : IS it Your private, or piece of any song? Anyone would link me this?
It's just wonderful
@@franekmetrycki4063 he wrote that song. It's in his channel. Or jdut Google spriti of the law intro
The precision of your math and your game analysis is soothing! Amazing work!
Berbers: The guys who heard that Mangudai have no counter and said "o rly?"
Ah yes, my favorite anti-Mongol and anti-Hun civilization. Great stuff.
One thing you should've mentioned with the Berber water bonus, though, is that it makes their Fire Ships and Demo Ships much more capable of reaching their targets. 10% speed might seem modest, but on water that's a big difference. For instance, it lets Berber Fast Fire Ships catch Viking Longboats, whereas every other civilization's ships (besides Demo ships) get outrun by Longboats.
I watch a new civ overview by Spirit. I think "Hey it's a nice civ, I should try it". I go online and get destroyed by cavalry all over my villagers.
Every. Damn. Time.
Well,you also need to learn how to play first.
Join noob games with me
That's why I only play against my friends. Fuck a meta and not having fun
The nice thing about there being so many civs in AoE2 is we'll be getting that many civ overviews from Spirit. So much work must go into making these.
I bet that Spirit of the Law dont have an idea on how comfortable is to look at the YT subscriptions and find that he uploaded a new video
i m a berberian my old family used to live in mountains in Morocco they had a lot of good horses and they were using raiding parties against the french so it make sence for me
Ma3likch ahmadi
berberian lmao
I love this civ. Just played them. They're awesome. Tons of options for killing archers, cavalry, and infantry. Get a few battering rams and you've got a stew goin.
Sorry to correct you. Berbers are not the rich kid you invite to your birthday. That's spanish.
Spanish are the even more rich kids
That's why they invaded Spain, they were jealous cause they weren't invited.
Spanish are the kid whose dad employs your dad and gives him really nice benefits.
It literally gives you money(gold)😂😂
Can a berber bear a berber's bare bear?
No, but a berber barber can barbecue a berber's bare bear in a barbaric berber barbecue with a barb.
Not without a barb though.
Naietz exactly
Naietz clearly
Me: Yes, but a barber berbe can brghfbl a bareb aerha lkjns,mval;fvzs
how many boards would the mongol horde hoard if the mongol horde was bored?
I figured I'd subscribe. It may cost quite a bit of resources, but in the long run it's cost effective
Man that clip of Camel Archers taking down Mangudai at the end...
Hgmidd think about vietnamese imp skirm do it! slaughter..
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 not as much. They suck vs onagers, heavy infantry, and cavalry, and just about everything else aside from cab archers and archers.
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 genituar are amazing though. I've personally held the line against 3 enemies at once with genitaur massed, camels, and bombard cannons to counter onagers.
I've seen better. I've seen a Camel Archer take down an Aircraft Carrier.
I love your videos and all the tactics that you're outlying, even thought I'm incredibly slow thinking and would never be able to play competetive online.
OMFG HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I loved the "anti cavalry archer cavalry archer"...Reminds me to the chu ko nu "anti anti-archer archer"
"But at the end of the day being good at running away doesn't really make you top tier" yeah tell that to Mayweather.
I finally restarted to play this game after 12 years omg im struggling so much to take back tricks and how to play some civs😂😂 so ur civs reviews are really helpfull to play better on this fabulous game 👌 and i rly enjoy watching them just for fun, i love the intro and ur voice make it calm and pleasant to hear 😂
Sry for the english, trying to learn it :P Hope u will read this =D
8:40 That's assuming every camel in your army is injured simultaneously. Monks/Missionaries can focus the healing where it's actually needed, while camels can't.
Your channel grew so much since I subscribed at 20k. Keep doing what you're doing!
Thank you for detailing the Monk's techs it really helped a lot.
2:49 somehow watching that boar sprint after the villager while Spirit's casually explaining in the background cracked me up.
P.S. can't wait for the Ethiopians!
Was not expecting a SOTL video in my recommendes, but pleasantly surpirsed
Ive been waiting for this one, berbers are my favorite african kingdoms civ
berbers are the best civilization in the game I think , all you need to do is create camel riders , camel archers and siege weapons , best combination ever
As always, awesome video! Great info, great editing, just plain perfect!
I haven't played AoC since a decad but sill love your videos especially the Cive Overview
nice video, nice comments and math. Also, love the choice of music you used in the background
1:51 Since this video might have new players in the audience, it might be worth noting that the "faster walk speed" bonus is not primarily an economic bonus. The more important factor of this bonus is that it enables Berber player to move villagers around the map faster, which is very useful in various situations: nomad, build military buildings next to your enemy, laming, boxing your enemy with walls, rushing for far away gold or stone mines, etc.. The bonus is a utility which enables all kinds of shenanigans and the economic upsides of the bonus are just side effects; not it's primary function.
Oh like the guys who cut my hair?
Didnt know they had this much power.
9:27
memes.
10/10
Irondragon1945 LOL
Whew tanks for pointing that out, jumpscares always get me
"But at the end of the day, being good at running away doesn't make you top tier"
Joseph Joestar:
hold my cola smokey
Long time no see your overview series. I just subscribe this channel few days ago. Love to see this series
glad to see you working again on civs
spirit of the law video watching guide>upvote>comment>watch video
I'm from a Berber origin, I love this civ.
Im a berber as well and i love that they speak my mother tongue
I'm an amazigh too
Nothing makes me happier than waking up to a new video from you. Also please consider casting games with Res22 and others.
I always like to see overviews from you :)
i never played berbers but from this video their camel archers look incredible, holy moly
The Berbers now have crew-building technology！
A-well-a everybody's heard about the ber
berber ber
Berber's the word
good vid, thanks for the update. i appreciate what you do mr law
For the longest time I've had the feeling, but you have helped me realise, I'm camel curious
I like how you look at different team bonuses with the special team units. Man all these expansion units being anti - unit type - unit type. I wonder if the Indian tech is bugged then, with it not performing as expected? Oh that's nice, I haven't really played the Berbers and I like playing the Mongols for their sweet Mangudai and how fun they are to control so that's cool that the camel archers have a quick response time. I'm disappointed there was no Rock the (C)Kasbah joke.
Finally, I had been waiting for this. Thank you SotL ^^
Looking forward to the Malian overview, they're my favourite from this expansion
That infant-tree visual joke gets me to chuckle every time I see it.
I was about to go to bed. But I've decided to stay awake 16 minutes more.
Great video and exactly the civ I was looking to see. If you ever get around to covering Malis as well, I'd be set.
i can't wait for SotL's burmese overview. i NEED this super in depth look at arambai.
So happy to see a new vid!
In my view, Berbers are an easy target for civilisation like Indians. Imperial Camel cuts through the cavalry and their infantry can be countered by the archers. A knight rush has to be defended though but having Camels does help.
I always thought that the Berbers would be the most OP of the African Kingdom civs when they were first being talked about. I felt this way because I always considered "Good Knight rush" to be synonymous with "Good civ", and Berbers had an awesome Knight rush. This made me come to the conclusion that they were going to be over powered and make for a stale meta.
Now days, I feel like they're just perfectly balanced. I don't play them much since I'm not one for Knight rushing, but when I land them on random, I do enjoy myself.
As for a request...I know you'll probably be doing all the African Kingdoms civs now. But when you get to Rise of the Rajas, can you do my favourite civ in the game (Yes, even more than the Byzantines D:), the Khmer?
They've been my favorite civ since african kingdoms came out, sorry franks! I absolutely love my knights and having great ranged units makes them oh so perfect. The castle age camel archer is basically a heavy cavalry archer that create waaaay faster, even without Kashba.
I really think they should be an A+ cavalry civ though, the fact they are only missing paladins is weighed out by the sheer cheapness of the units.
Thank dank drake meme at 9:30 thou
Hey Spirit, I'd argue that the ship speed bonus gives their fire ships and demos a nice advantage on water. It's small, but being able to close the gap a bit faster with those units makes can make a huge difference in the long run!
Just to add, I also think that the no minimum range on the Inca Genitour might actually harm it when dealing with pikes. That automatic retreat it does when it's out of range would be a nice defense mechanism when surrounded by pikemen.
This is your best overview
My favorite unit is Elite Mangudai. It is just so fast and has a very high DpS.
Camel Archers are quite powerful in post imperial fights
Legit, never clicked a video so fast
if you research laser-mouse from university, you can click 15% faster
Is the Hussar upgrade worth it? Paladin Upgrade #3.
That's what I'm suggesting for months.
Yay!!! Another SOTL video. Now i am gonna have very nice dreams
Lanchester's square law is a nice addition, but in meele fights it's way less of a factor than in ranged vs ranged fights, where units are constantly fightning, especially taking in consideration the bad pathfinding in the game, especially when rallied to battle.
hergendy I would wager a guess that for melee units in AoE 2, it's somewhere between linear and square.
Excellent as always!
Top tier civ intro for sure though
Berbers with Vietnam Allies: We have the best Skimisher variants, nothing can defeat us from range. We have good camels to destroy calvary. We delarce supramacy!
Huskarl: *shows up
Berbers: Tactical blunder, RETREAT!
I usually play britons or mongols, but I like berbers too especially after researching agribah camels. My friend likes to play Gurjaras, so I should team up with him and bennefit from faster created camels. I'm glad to see they bennifit from herbal medicine, that ought to give them some battlefield longevity and save some gold that might otherwise be wasted.
@spiritofthelaw, great video, I'm sure everyone would love an updated version, if you find the time!
Video Production increase so good Kreygasm
You know..I still watch your vids even if I dont play the game anymore.But please dont upload it when im going to bed ffs hahaha
Alex Hoh same dude lol =))
why even tho the community is a lot less bigger (in active players) then about 1p.years ago it still has 7000 active players on steam so you can just play the game if you want.
Tbh, i only actually played it when it was released. Fuken 18 years ago!!!
But i watch Spirit videos nevertheless. That combination of jokes, math and strategy somehow really works for me! :D
I love the intro sometimes I just play it over and over. Keep it up.
Doesn't the ship speed count for trading cogsas well? It would give you much faster trading.
Camel archers seems really strong
the villager speed bonus is good in nomad. It'll get your villagers to the TC site quicker and if you get into a villager war you can either get away from them or it's hard for them to get away from you.
Holy shit, these guys are definitely OP!
I think the ship speed helps a lot in early game battles. Fire ships are more effective against enemy galleons and galleons are more effective against enemy fire ships.
Spirit! Welcome back \o/
Thank you for the greatest moment in the history of puns.
Thanks man!!! You're awesome
I like them much better now. I've not randoned them yet, but I think i can now be relaxed if i do.
who else is early for a civ review?
What about berbers bonus of movement speed and both wheelbarrow and hand cart?
In video you showed just table for wheelbarrow.
When we count generic villager with both wheelbarrow and hand cart its speed is 0,968
on the other hand berber villager with both has speed 1,0648.
Thank you for amazing video and answer to my question :)
PS I am starting to be curious about ratio of gathering, walking and bringing of resources to TC during farming.
Miss your videos!!
Camel curious!!! Hahaha. Dude, love your vids.
Yay! a new spirit vid!
Nice video, Thanks.
how well would Berbs and Goths do?
i mean they give faster castle AND a new trash unit
P0P218 Bonus-wise, they don't mesh well. Goths wouldn't benefit much, since they can train Huscarls from barracks. Still, the Genitour is nice to have. As for Berbers, they don't have great infantry, and their cavalry rushes are so good that they probably won't make much use of the Goth barracks bonus.
Gameplay-wise, though, I think it could work well together. Berbers can use their great knight rush to buy the Goths time to build a powerful economy, then they raid and play support while the Goths flood with their infantry. This way, the Berbers offset the Goths's weaker early game, and the Goths offset the Berbers' somewhat weaker late game, when lacking halberdier and paladin can bite them in the butt.
AWWW YISSSSS NEW VID!!
I love the Berbers :D!!!! My favorite Civ
Supreme knight rush, Strong cav tech/units, Solid team bonus/economy. 3S?
One of the best civ in Age 2 after DLC, personally.
I’m gonna do hubs and berbers it would be perfect for my style of castle rush
After they introduced the Berbers as a civ, I never understood why they didn't change the magyars their light cavalry bonus. The magyars their light cavalry reduction cost needs to be changed IMO.