Rolex Submariner VS Tudor Black Bay 58, the Tudor is that good...Yes

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  • @matlindell5022
    @matlindell5022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    BB58 all the way.

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @AZadeh-nd8vx
      @AZadeh-nd8vx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only someone who doesn't have a Sub would say that

    • @matlindell5022
      @matlindell5022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AZadeh-nd8vx the sub is the most boring watch you can buy.

    • @AZadeh-nd8vx
      @AZadeh-nd8vx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matlindell5022 🤣 suuure...but a homage Sub from Tudor is more "interesting" 😆 Clearly you've never owned a Sub, if you had you'd know they're anything but boring. That's just something jealous people say who wish they had one 😄

    • @matlindell5022
      @matlindell5022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AZadeh-nd8vx no offense but you are wrong.I owned a few Rolexes 20 years ago .I have only kept my Explorer because it is the one I have been wearing almost every day for 30 years!🤩

  • @stevenkim3998
    @stevenkim3998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I hope the BB58 will take in T-fit adjustment some day (e.g. BB58 bronze clasp).
    Except clasp, BB58 is perfect diver watch ever made

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All of us waiting for that clasp. Thank you for watching.
      Cheers 🥃

    • @alphaviet6428
      @alphaviet6428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wear mine on the rubber band, so bracelet for me is not an issue

    • @rgrewal3d
      @rgrewal3d 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I put my bb58 on a Tudor Ranger bracelet with a t-fit clasp. Plug and play. Perfect fitment. 🎉

  • @Kibby96793
    @Kibby96793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m a sucker for the gilt on the 58.
    Though I do like the bluish lume of the Rolex.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the gilt also friend. The bgw9 blue is also very nice, fits the Rolex perfect. Thx my brother. 🥃

  • @themightysquid
    @themightysquid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent, honest review. I have the BB58 and it monopolizes most of my wrist time over my 2000 Explorer2. I went to my AD 3 years ago to check out a 2000 Sub. Next to it was the Explorer2. The Sub felt more top heavy on my 6-5/8” wrist than I expected and the large crown dug into my hand. It felt like a watch I would wear occasionally. Next to it was the Explorer2. When I tried it on it simply melted onto my wrist and I knew I can wear this every day. Add the 24 hour hand and cyclops and it had everything the GMT dial had. The fixed steel bezel added that uniqueness that differentiated it. As much as I’ve lusted for a Sub, it’s look has become so ubiquitous, and I’ve been wearing similar styles for so long that it felt somewhat anticlimactic to finally wear it. I tried on the BB58 2 years ago on leather and it was perfect in looks and comfort. 2 years later my AD finally had a steel BB58 and I grabbed it and have been getting a tremendous amount of use with it. As much as I want a Sub for posterity and it’s iconic status, I would probably wear my BB58 most of the time if I had it.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi and thank you for your comment.
      The Exlr 2 is a very cool watch, I can see why you like it.
      Agreed the sub does feel too top heavy for me also.
      Love the sub, just not this sub, an older one…. Maybe.
      The BB58 is just about perfect and now that I have it on a Jubilee, telling you, it looks and feels even better.
      I am working on a review on this jubilee I have on it now.
      It’s stunning.
      Cheers and come back to see that video.

  • @walkerb1734
    @walkerb1734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I own both models. If I had to choose/keep just one…..it would be the BB58 blue. Both are excellent watches, but the Tudor just sings more to me.

  • @AaronHuie
    @AaronHuie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible thumbnail btw!

  • @andywilliams4887
    @andywilliams4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I recently (Nov 2021) bought the Black Bay 58 Navy Blue to compliment a range watches in my collection that include the classic Rolex Submariner Date 16610 which I've cherished for 19 yrs. The Tudor BB 58 is a solid, very well-made luxury timepiece and I appreciate its rather understated blue dial and bezel. Like-for-like think of the Blue 58 version as a more modern take on its original black and gilt sibling. But after watching some of your helpful videos, plus many others, I succumbed and I have just purchased the BB 58 Black version on 20 Dec 21. I do love the blue, but I also adore the warmer look that the black exudes, not to mention the slightly darker shade of steel Tudor has cleverly used to add slight differentiation. Maybe now owning identically-made watches, with the exact same specs, bar the colourways, is crazy, but hey it's Christmas after all !

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was was the point of these video, to make you buy more and more watches 😂😂😂😂😂.
      Just kidding friend, if you can afford it and enjoy them, why not. Hope you happy with the BB58 black, I honestly like it more than the Sub, can’t speak for the blue BB58 but the gilt always attracts me more.
      Cheers and thank you for your time. Cheers 🥃

  • @watchmegobroke4365
    @watchmegobroke4365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid man! Thanks for the shoutout! 🔥🔥🔥

    • @SoCalWatchReviews
      @SoCalWatchReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @watchmegobroke - You’re the man 👏

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thx bro. This Seiko piece is a very cool watch. Cheers 🥃

  • @TheCalibratedWrist
    @TheCalibratedWrist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Tudor is a beautiful, vintage-inspired piece. Love the gilt. But, you are right, the Sub just exudes luxury. There is a timelessness about it.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Brent, absolutely gorgeous watch. That being said the Tudor BB58 does it all for me.
      Ok except for straps, don’t like the look of it on straps, that’s why I’m keeping it on the bracelet most of the time.
      Cheers friend.

  • @WrongTimeWatch
    @WrongTimeWatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wished that my BB58 had some sort of quick adjust clasp like the glide lock. I am planning to compare my BB58 to my 124060, but need to spend more time with both.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That lack of adjustments, is probably the no 1 reason ppl part with this watch. I saw your Sub, very nice man. Allot better case. I’ll watch your comparison.

  • @canadianwatchmonkey3992
    @canadianwatchmonkey3992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just looking at the watches the Tudor BB58 is the better looking watch in my opinion. But I sure do love the 36mm Rolex Oyster Perpetual date just smooth bezel.

  • @ben19961
    @ben19961 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After wearing for everyday use is there one that will outlast the other? Or is one a more resistant to scratches on the case and bracelet than the other? 😊

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They’re probably same resistance. Rolex uses a different steel but not much difference for daily wear

    • @ben19961
      @ben19961 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LeoVinteler that’s awesome thank you for letting me know I’m very interested in getting a BB GMT in the near future so I’m currently researching every detail I can thank you for reply and so quickly might I add you’ve gained a new subscriber 😊

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ben19961 the BB GMT is beautiful, be aware it is a tall watch. Case is very tall. Try before you buy

    • @ben19961
      @ben19961 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LeoVinteler thank you sir I will do thank you for the advice it’s very appreciated 😊

  • @michaelriera6277
    @michaelriera6277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 58 is so well made and perfectly proportioned for a sports watch. It borrows from classic Tudors and Rolex without being a slave to an exact copy . It really is it’s own thing. The gilt bezel gives the 58 a warm feel, the red triangle offers a pop of color paying homage to the Tudor Big Crown, the chunky coin edge crown is so satisfying to wind with a refined matching coin edge bezel and I love the snow flake seconds hand. It’s different from the more traditional lollipop style. By the way, 39 mm is on the smaller side for a modern sized sports watch. I think anything smaller is playing vintage territory.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelriera6277 smaller watches got the best of me. Got the Explorer in classic 36mm now. 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @exactmat
    @exactmat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed your video mate
    I was lucky and found a BB58 available at the new Tudor boutique in my home town. Unfortunately I had a tiny dust grain beneath the glas and the watch is currently in Swiss at Tudor’s manufactory.
    But I love the watch!! Maybe I’m lucky and Tudor manages to fix it before Christmas 🙈
    Greetings from Hamburg, Germany 🇩🇪

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sucks. Hope it comes back quickly for you to enjoy.
      Cheers 🥃

  • @chadbrinker7885
    @chadbrinker7885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tudor looks great! Thanks for the vid 👍

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there brother. You’re welcome. Cheers 🍻

  • @edcunboxings2942
    @edcunboxings2942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Black Bay is my fav watch. Absolutely perfect for me on my 7.5" wrist and super comfortable.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw it. Looks great on you. Cheers 🥃

  • @momoz283
    @momoz283 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about the time keeping?
    Are they both accurate?

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they are. 🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @momoz283
      @momoz283 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LeoVinteler the price difference really its just the "name" that your paying for right?!

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@momoz283 status more than anything 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @markstarmer3677
    @markstarmer3677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both superb watches. I think for the Tudor is better value for money though. Rolex’s are over priced.

  • @simonguthrun6950
    @simonguthrun6950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m with you not a fan of the maxi case on the Rolex but would love an older model but I can’t justify spending so much.
    I have the black bay 58 & it’s become my one watch that I’ll grow old with & hand down to my son. Love the the vintage look, just hope they release the T fit clasp for it soon. Anyway great review 👍.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Simon, we all waiting for that T fit to be available to the whole BB58 lineup. Happy you enjoying the watch. Cheers 🥂

    • @TerraThink
      @TerraThink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeoVinteler Just concerned that the t-fit clasp will never come to BB58 (non-bronze versions) in order to protect Rolex sales.
      I hope that's not the case.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TerraThink it might but only for new models. They’ll do something to only fit a new type of bracelet. To protect Rolex’s glide lock

  • @spurs1969spurs1969
    @spurs1969spurs1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love my 58 but would of preferred it to be slightly larger at 40m

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can understand that. For some wrists, it does look small.
      Cheers 🥃

  • @alphaviet6428
    @alphaviet6428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got BB58 for myself, and Submariner for my son. Both will be his someday. But I want him to grow up knowing what a humble man his father was. I also have Explorer 1, in case he is going to have his mama’s wrist size 😊

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂. I just bought an Explorer 1
      Cheers to you 🍻

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison video 👏

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx Miguel. Appreciate it man. Salut 🥃

  • @unknowmale
    @unknowmale ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like both, but I prefer bb58.

  • @bigmeech8715
    @bigmeech8715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Tudor is almost a perfect watch but the lack of quick adjustment and date make it fall short.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost perfect is 👍🏻. I made a video on the lack of adjustments solution I found. The lack of a date does not bother me, yet 😂😂.
      Thank you Joe.

  • @scrhunter3901
    @scrhunter3901 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah i love the DressKX.. got it also on an Miltat Jubileestrap. Looks great. I also love my Bb58 😂👍🏻 perfekt Video for me

  • @whereRbearsTeeth
    @whereRbearsTeeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The maxi case design was a big mistake by Rolex, and they knew it. That’s why they fixed it with the new 41mm submariner, which is the best submariner to date. That being said, there is absolutely no comparison between a submariner and a Tudor. Those watches are on two completely different levels.

  • @BMWCARBON
    @BMWCARBON 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had a 58 but I traded it and got the new Tudor Red on jubilee Master Chronometer..🎉🎉 best tudor in my opinion

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BMWCARBON the red is stunning no doubt. I ended up with an Explorer 36mm as my daily watch. No more BB58

    • @BMWCARBON
      @BMWCARBON 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LeoVinteler the 58 is a very tough accurate watch it's just bit small for me.

  • @jesuisnoach
    @jesuisnoach 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As an investment, I get that its the rolex, but all things being equal im going for the BB58.

  • @TerraThink
    @TerraThink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tudor for the win. Just like the style a lot more (and I'm no fan of the cyclops).

  • @resjon7981
    @resjon7981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Both nice but the Tudor is my preferred piece as I am not a fan of mercedes hands.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. The BB58 is my pick for now. Really enjoying it.

    • @resjon7981
      @resjon7981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LeoVinteler Nice, I have the BB58 In the blue and the black and to be honest pound for pound they would be very hard to beat at their current price point.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@resjon7981 absolutely 👏👏👏

  • @kevwilliams1
    @kevwilliams1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just can’t get enough of that vintage look of the bb58, don’t get me wrong the Rolex is beautiful but when comparing theses two together the Rolex looks more suited to a younger man. The Tudor is no doh t much more refined and classic looking more to my taste as man in his 40’s. The 60 click on the Tudor is so god Damn crisp ! Sublime . Great video loved it

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can’t agree more. The BB58 is full of vintage charm an older man like me 40+ enjoys 😂😂😂.
      Cheers 🙋🏻‍♂️🍷

    • @kevwilliams1
      @kevwilliams1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeoVinteler keep the videos coming my man, I’ve just stumbled across your channel as I’m looking to purchase the bb58 same model as yours. I really enjoy your views and I’m a click away from pulling the trigger on the bb58. What’s stopping me? I don’t know maybe that thought of the £3010 GBP price tag, where if I saved that amount again then I could possibly pick up a Rolex. I’m really stuck. Thanks 😊🍹

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevwilliams1 buy used. There’s plenty online. They’re good watch movements, they’ll last you. A bit of patina/scratches looks better too 😂🙋🏻‍♂️🍻

  • @robc8468
    @robc8468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the Tudor had a ceramic bezel with gilt numbering plus at clasp and it would be perfect. I am 400k from my net worth goal and will probably buy a BB58 in 3 or 4 years if my investments pan out. My most expensive Watch so far is a Ball Trainmaster.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the Trainmaster is a very cool watch. I think.
      Cheers 🥃

  • @ColdComrade
    @ColdComrade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish the Tudor bb58 had a date complication but that's just a submariner lol. However, personally I like the look of the Tudor better than the submariner and I feel like I can actually afford a BB58. Maybe I'll buy one within the next year or two.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are a few Tudor divers with date, just not the 58. 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @oganovdavid
    @oganovdavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video! Subscribed!
    I totally agree with everything you've said in this video. Submariner has been my long wanted watch. But I just don't like it with the maxi case... I hope they will bring back the more elegant case back one day & I will buy a sub.. But currently, I have decided to get a bb58 for me. Hope I will like it

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You gonna love the BB58, not perfect but very close to it.

  • @steelsteez6118
    @steelsteez6118 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:47 Rolex bezel click action blows the Tudor out of the water imho. But it is funny to note how biased we are towards the watches we own. I knew without a doubt, that you were going to prefer the bezel action of your BB58 🤣🤣. Don't worry, I do the exact same thing with my watches lol.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn’t that the truth 😂😂😂. I still love the bb58 feel and sound of the 60 click more🙋🏻‍♂️🍷

  • @kosflorin
    @kosflorin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rolex is on another level

  • @ThinkingAndInkingLtd
    @ThinkingAndInkingLtd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why you comparing the 39 BB58 - use the standard Tudor BB41mm - a mainly male watch.
    BTW, the steel on the Rolex is 904L. Leave a 316L steel watch and 904L watch under water for 100 years and the chances are the 904 will be less rusty. But Rolex don't use if for that reason. They use it because it polishes up better. More bling. 904L scratches more easily than 316L. But Rolex don't care. About 1% of people buying a new Sub are buying it for the name, the bling. Tudor are taking over Rolex's tool watch mantle - the thing that made them famous, being so good at their purpose - Rolex are moving more into precious metals. Because there are enough poseurs with enough money out there to buy it.
    Oh and btw, imagine if people found out that Rolex actually got their cases from China, would that change people's mind about the brand?
    Last point, you're less likely to having your arm macheted off wearing a BB than a Sub

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your points. I would have to say 99 out of 100 ppl don’t notice the Tudor. I’m ok with that. I’m not a guy who shows off.
      Cheers 🥃

  • @kev9385
    @kev9385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BB all day

  • @BFit25
    @BFit25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had both. Finishing and bracelet not up to par. Tudor just can be a Tudor it doesn’t have to be Rolex level.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Tudor was finished very nice, scratched up now 😂😂 but was perfect at one point. The bracelet is finished nice but not fitting properly, no mater what I do.
      Cheers

  • @BWo-bb1yw
    @BWo-bb1yw ปีที่แล้ว

    Maxi-cased watches are bulky and ugly. The older watches are perfect watches, beautiful. The tudors are a bit top heavy, but are better looking.

  • @canadianwatchmonkey3992
    @canadianwatchmonkey3992 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound of bezels are best described as crunchy on the Tudor and crispy on the Rolex

  • @jeffdj1975
    @jeffdj1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #tudorthesmartmansrolex

  • @propliner
    @propliner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in a way, the Tudor is better,,,,sorry

  • @manuel_winde
    @manuel_winde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sub for me is a better watch and money aside (I.e. if someone was gifting me one) I’d want the sub. If I was buying for myself I’d get the bb58 and be quite happy with it. I wish the Tudor had a better adjustment on the clasp too.
    But truth be told the market price for Rolex is so high I’d never keep one unless it was a gift. Even if I got the opportunity to buy one from an AD at RRP I’d just sell it and get a free bb58 realistically/sadly. People paying £11-13k for them and I am not in a position to turn down that much.

    • @adamwest5625
      @adamwest5625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flippers like you don’t deserve to call from an AD. I was appreciative to have got the call for my Submariner 124060 and Pelagos FXD from my AD last year - both will be staying in my Collection to be worn and enjoyed.
      Idiots like you ruin it was people who actually deserves to get the watches 🖕

    • @manuel_winde
      @manuel_winde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamwest5625 oh behave you div. The market is insane- how can you call someone an idiot for selling a watch for 100% profit? People don’t deserve watches, if you want it and can get it. Buy it. It then becomes yours to do with as you please.
      If you expect someone to turn down the money for a free family holiday out of some watch solidarity with fellow geeks online, you need your head examined.

  • @lonewolfemcquade8133
    @lonewolfemcquade8133 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Submariner ALL DAY the Black bay can only hope to be the iconic watch Submariner is 1 DAY. My favorite Tudor till this day is the Tudor Prince Big block chronograph and second favorite the Monte Carlo heritage chronograph. Also Tudor needs to stop with the faux rivets and just make a real riveted bracelet and stop with the faux crap.

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The BB58 is no Sub. Agreed.
      Still a nice looking piece overall. Cheers

  • @harkonen1000000
    @harkonen1000000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rolex looks a bit bland here.

  • @markveganism5003
    @markveganism5003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tudor anyday ...cheaper but still expensive, less in ya face ,looks better ,movement and parts not too far behind rolex at all ,tudor will be noticed by watch lovers ,rolex will be noticed by thief's...rolex lovers just love the price tag ..in another fashion going for the most expensive leaves u looking like a bell end ..same as a guy in a orange lambo vrs a mint rs 2000 ...

    • @LeoVinteler
      @LeoVinteler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂 funny but so true 🙋🏻‍♂️🍷

  • @achilles5197
    @achilles5197 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rolex blows that garbage out of the water. Poorly threaded crown, misalignments, aluminum bezel, crappy customer service. You can't compare these realistically.

    • @CTizer
      @CTizer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My bb58 gas none of these problems. Infact the crown threading is nicer than my OP i got from the ad few months ago

  • @kylesanchez8790
    @kylesanchez8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vibes and video! This channel needs P R O M O S M.