Tudor Black Bay 58 (IS IT THE BEST LUXURY DIVER STILL?)
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This watch shook the watch world. Almost disrupted the industry. Something fashion brands claim they do daily. No one was expecting this, a thin, in house 39mm remastering of an icon? Well, surely it will be around the $5000 mark with its antimagnetic silicone hairspring and 70 hour power reserve! Well it is much more affordable at $3700 USD, prices increase yearly. But in the luxury tool watch world, the Black Bay 58 is still hard to beat! I would say 5 years after its release no one as even come close to this level of value, luxury, and quality build from a prestigious house like Tudor SA.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Macro Video
1:41 - Far Wrist Shot
2:14 - History
2:51 - Crown
3:31 - Case
3:58 - Measurements
4:32 - Bezel + Sound
5:35 - Crown play
6:11 - Dial/Hands
6:59 - Bracelet
8:10 -Price
8:24 - Competition
9:01 - Wrist shot
9:31 - Timegrapher
10:45 - LUME
11:12 - Buy Still?
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5 Reasons why the BLACK BAY 58 is BETTER then the SUBMARINER HERE: th-cam.com/video/5j9xVnjwkxU/w-d-xo.html -Falling
Best watch I’ve owned - perfect size, super legible, under the radar, certified chronometer, quality brand, 70hr power reserve, lovely bracelet and clasp. If Tudor were gonna upgrade it I’d ask for drilled lugs and on the fly adjustment but that’s it, otherwise it’s perfect.
I think the drilled lugs might interrupt the clean look of the side profile, but they are handy
BB58 is hyped and it’s for a good reason .. nothing can touch it for the price point, even watches that cost almost twice as much cannot compare. I ended up choosing a BB58 blue on steel for my wedding watch, absolutely love it!
I have this exact watch. I have a 7-inch wrist and 39mm looks perfect on me. To be honest, there are very few people who can get away with wearing a watch bigger than 41mm. Bigger than that is just cartoonish. I'll happily wear a 36/34-inch vintage watch too. As for the Back Bay itself, I'm very happy with it. Superb time-keeper and a handsome piece that seems to be holding its value exceptionally well. Genuinely can't find a single fault with it.
I wanted one for years and finally got mine last year. It's my favorite watch because it wears so well and goes with everything.
It does go with everything!
Just received mine today and love it! The exact watch your showing.
Every time I pick it up, I just marvel at how beautiful it is. It is probably aesthetically one of the nicest things I have in my possession. And about it being boring - I once had a friend see it from across the room and say, “what a gorgeous watch, what brand is it?” I have never gotten bored with it, and I think it will far outlive its hype.
Same feelings here
This will remain a popular seller in 2022 and super sought after in years to come. I own both the Black/Gilt and its wonderful Blue brother, both on the bracelet. They currently share equal wrist time and I know I'm spoilt. I also have cherished my classic 16610 Rolex Sub date for 20 years, which is still king in my collection, plus an Omega SM300 alongside a handful of various field watches. I must say the BB58s suit all occasions and are still at a great price point.
My children got me the BB58 Black for my 70th Birthday. Love it. It gets the most wrist time. Lucky me ☺️
YAY! Great kids!
This was my retirement gift to myself in 2019 while on a post retirement vacation…. Love , love the watch it has a warm rich color tone to it and the red pip really ties in the overall look. I love this watch so much I have been considering getting the blue version but I am afraid it may be a little redundant to own both .
Good luck! In this New stage
Do it
As always very informative FT, I can't agree more that BB58 Black is a great all rounder. I love mine too. Keep up the great work.
I own the black and the blue, with bracelets and natos, and I love them both. The blue is my daytime watch, and the black is my nighttime watch. 😁 Love the videos FT!!
Sweet to have both! I'd grab the blue too if I could
Got the blue one, it's quality is impeccable, the movement does about +20s monthly overall (less than +1s/day). I'd advise anyone to try this on for a diver, it pretty much beats everything else.
So blue is better than black? Better QC? Or what?
I have a large collection of watches yet it is still my Tudor BB58 blue that gets worn almost exclusively. The Tudor BB58 is that good and for me it’s the perfect do everything watch!
Absolutely fantastic, recently bought it as a Birthday gift for myself, and it has become my favorite watch.. everything about the BB58 is perfect! 👌
Happy birthday!
I sold mine long ago. Thought I wanted it but it didn’t live up to my expectations. Feels small. But still incredible value at 4K and under.
Your wrist is just big probably
Speaking of watches that you forget are on….I own a BB58 and completely agree, but what really shocked me was this happening with my King Turtle on the Uncle Seiko Z199. The cushion case with that bracelet and its taper are ridiculously comfortable, especially considering its size.
I picked up my grail Submariner 124060 from my AD in Oct ‘21 but got rid of the Pelagos LHD. Missed the Pelagos in my collection and I was close to getting a BB58 however my AD called 3 weeks later to offer me the Pelagos FXD so l couldn’t turn that one down.
I dropped by my AD to say hello and decided to try on the BB58 black and gilt dial - I am really tempted to add this to the collection however the Sub is getting most of my wrist time along with the FXD and Speedmaster.
It’s a life time watch as you said ❗️Great work as you always do. Cheers ❗️
I have to admit, that after selling my blue bay 58 to put towards the purchase of the 925 58, I have ultimately concluded that the steel 58 is my favorite Tudor diver. Now there are things about the 925 that I do like better, such as the super sick grey dial/bezel combo, as well as, the all brushed surfaces of the watch case, but overall, the steel versions have more benefits. I am a bracelet guy, so not having that option on the 925 bugged me (although I probably wouldn’t want an all silver bracelet anyway). Another downside of the 925 vs the steel, was the case material itself, which for me and my small collection and my lifestyle, I never should have considered a precious metal watch over a harder material watch such as steel. Initially, I was very enamored with the uniqueness of a modern silver filled watch, and I still believe that the 925 is more unique and has the potential to be more sought than the steel version years from now, but the steel version is more practical and has more of what I want and need in a watch right now. I don’t have a huge collection or budget (I wear 3 watches on regular rotation), so had my overall collection budget been larger, than that would’ve made more sense for me to add a watch like the 925.
So yeah, after that experiment, my daily is the Blue Bay 58 once again! And while I’m always on the hunt for a potential replacement for one of my other two regular watches, the Blue Bay 58 will be a permanent part of my collection.
Side note: currently the new METAS red bezel/gilt 41 has caught my attention due to Tudor slimming down the case from the earlier 41’s, although I’m still not convinced that I would like it better than the 58’s. The new 54 is so badass, as well, but ultimately, I’m beyond content with the 58, so I can’t imagine trying to pursue another Tudor diver anytime soon.
Anyway, rant over. Keep up the great work, Aiden
This channel so underrated… much love👍👍
Appreciate that
Spot on review. Absolutely agree, this watch is in a class of its own!
Great video! I agree that it’s one of the only watches I own that I forget I’m wearing. It’s just that comfortable. Just so you know, the price is now $3800 USD.
Thanks for sharing that! usd prices are hard to find sometimes for me in canada.
Loved your great review and description of this watch
Lighthearted and informative. Impossible not to subscribe!
I was on the fence about this watch, but then I tried it on at an AD. I curse them for having the one I wanted (Black with fabric strap) in stock because I just couldn't walk away. I plan to put a grey NATO or brown leather strap on it. Best diver value ever.
It is the very question I am asking. Barring my father’s 1962 Omega, I currently have Grand Seiko and Seiko - no ‘Swiss Luxury’ timepiece. Have been considering the BB58 for months. Undecided which version but likely to be the Black version. What could I buy instead??? I have been around the houses for months and nothing comes up as a solid direct competitor!!!! So you have just confirmed those feelings. 🙂
Went with the navy blue one as it felt a bit more modern and causal - as a dressy, vintage watch lover I needed some respite:)
This is one of the few watches that I keep coming to. Added the GS SBGN003 and the sbgv245 in 2021 to my... not collection, but watches I wear... and I am seriously considering the black bay 58, it is even in stock at a local retailer. After going back and forth between the various version I think I will have to try the standard black on the NATO.
You won't be disappointed!
Just do it. It’s great
If not previously mentioned, Uncle Seiko makes some OEM fit/look half links than you can buy individually.
If anyone has avoided their bracelet or considered aftermarket because of that, it's a worthy and viable solution.
Just love your watch reviews, i wish they launch the steel and gold in 39mm.
Wearing mine right now. An absolute stunner.
Fantastic watch, no arguments there. But I prefer the larger Black Bay Black, the 41mm. It shouldn't be overlooked, if you are waiting for the 58. Sure it is a couple of mm thicker, wider and longer, but you will be surprised how well it still sits on the wrist. The only thing the 58 has that the 41mm doesn't, is the gold numerals on the bezel. I do like that a lot, it makes it look very warm.
So yes the 58 is still top dog for most people, but lets give some of that appreciation to its big brother too.
I’m always the kind of person who has a watch the has a Date Complication on the watch specially at the 3 o’clock and have found it odd for a watch to not have one. But after owning this BB58 I actually LIKE it without the date complication. It does t ruin the symmetry of the watch, all flowing !!! I have the 41mm BB GMT Pepsi and I can see it without the Date but of course it would defeat the GMT purpose !!
Congrats on the pickup! Beautiful.
Thank you kindly!
for competitors you have to look at 2 Seiko I would say, the SPB239/147 with lower price tag, or the SLA057J1 at upper price tag, but difficult to choose ! I'm struggling between all those mentioned, the BB58 is still quite at the top though ! For the price of the SLA057 you could get the BB58 and one of the SPBs, really tough choice !
Sounds like a plan! bb58 and and spb!
@@EscapementWatch it sounds like a plan indeed, the only minor drawback for the BB58 is that I see too much people with one at the moment, it is indeed the ransom of success I guess.
I own the SPB 147 (love it!) and it's definitely worthy of being the best affordable alternative to the BB58. Saving my pennies now for the BB58.
@@stiggy8322 Don't be concerned about how many other have one, just buy what you like!
Incredible watch. Definitely worth saving for. 👌
Absolutely
I just bought the bb58 on the nato strap (had to purchase bracelet separately as it wasn’t available in the AD) as a gift to myself to celebrate the recent success of all my social media endeavors. Couldn’t love the watch more, it’s my first luxury watch (:
Congrats and thanks for sharing!
I'm gonna get the blue one! It will be mine 😊
What more could a 6.5" wrist want. I've had mine for 2 years now and even after adding a Grand Seiko last year the 58 is still my favourite.
Thanks for sharing. GS is on my wish list!
Liked it so much I bought 2, got the black and the blue. Very nice watch and very hard to beat pound for pound. And to all the Rolex fanboys out there who think the BB58 is a substitute for the Submariner be reminded that the shield projects the crown.
Came close to buying the blue on blue a few times but I just know I'd flip it. It's solid but reviewers have convinced me it's too obvious a choice. The pelagos FXD has my eye though.
Yes it is way to obvious and I tend to shy away from those type of watches! But...Tudor wins here...it is just to darn good.
Such a perfect tribute to the divers from the 50s-60s. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Totally!
Great video, and a watch that is definitely on my short list for my next purchase (either that or a speedmaster). Just a heads up the US price is $3800 now, not $3700. I think that was the recent price increase
Thanks for the info!
Gorgeous and perfectly sized.
Great review. The BB58 is on my short list, maybe even next. I've tried it on a couple times, but like you, it was on the NATO at the AD. I like the NATO, but I want the bracelet. Can always put it on a NATO any time.
Whenever you get one you will be happy. Now which color do you want?
@@EscapementWatch the black dial (original).
I've just bought a preowned BB58 and I'm a little surprised at the slight bracelet rattle and play in the end links. I'm hoping you can tell me if a bit of a bracelet rattle is normal on these? Thank you in advance!
I never heard of that before. Usually rolex/tudor bracelets are solid fitting on the lugs. Mine has no play what so ever.
The Breitling Avenger 43 is a bigger watch but wears very slim,I think could be a good competitor.
I’ll definitely agree with the Avenger. Great watch from Breitling that still has the beloved winged B logo.
I’m a big fan of the Tudor mat colors and the clasp.
But the ’faux-rivet’ is a no-go for me.
And I would have liked the T-lock on the clasp.
Like Grand Seiko and Omega, the trend is to keep the clasp small but you miss the micro-adjustment then ! 😒
... Christopher Ward does it so why not ?! 🤨
Very close but not the perfect tool watch to me... or maybe on the leather strap. 😉😎
The new price is 3800, or 4113.50 in Texas after taxes. Just bought the navy blue 58, they had the black dial as well, but I really liked the blue personally. They also had the 925. I liked the silver more, but the case back was the killer on that one. I don’t think the movement is that flashy movement that you wanna show off, and the added thickness didn’t help.
A little side note, I have a 7.25 inch wrist, the 925 leather strap worked perfect, but none of the Tudor nato straps fit me. I wanted to order one but after trying them on it just didn’t work. I wish Tudor made their straps in larger sizes.
I also tried on the Tudor BB 41, just to see how it would fit on my wrist, it was a monster! I’ve had other 41’s that had a nice fit, may be the lug to lug was the issue?
Thanks for sharing! Yeah its the L2L on the 41's. Huge!
The height on the 41’s doesn’t help either. I had the GMT and sold it because it was just top heavy and uncomfortable to wear. Gorgeous watch, just wish that case was a little slimmer. I bought the 58 a few months ago and the difference in comfort is night and day.
Where did you buy it? I can only find it on a strap?
I have a bb58 in blue on bracelet, imo it looks the best from the black bay range. I'm thinking of replacing it with an iwc mark 18, what do you think, which is the better all rounder. I have a really small collection and tend to wear the same watch for months.
IWC is great. Would love a no date version of the 18 which I believe there isn't one yet? I'd stay with the bb58 in this case.
@@EscapementWatch the date does put me off on the blue version but doesn't look bad on the black version, I'm more of a pilot /field watch guy. They don't make a non date version in the 40mm, they do in the 43mm big pilot (still too big)
Yeah! once they do I'll be tempted to grab one! maybe in 38 or 39mm. :P
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
I am really in love with the BB58. It is on my "someday I will get it" list. Black and Gilt for sure!
But is it me or are those hands not finished very sharply in the macros?
Yes the hands are not finished good at all. And the bezel is slightly misaligned on my example. I used to own a Seiko sla043 which had better finishing throughout, case, dust level, hands and bezel alignment. But there's something magical about how the black Bay 58 sits on the wrist at one me over.
@@EscapementWatch Basically what I thought! The esthetics are just perfect. Things like finishing and alignment are less of a thing then :D X-factor
Yes! My fund for another SLA product has started a couple months ago but they need to make an all new thinner case for me to be able to add it to the permanent collection.
It's a nice watch but I prefer my sla043. The build quality is higher on the seiko. Yes the seiko is more expensive new, but used mint can be picked up for 2.5k here in the UK, which is similar priced used of a bb58. Don't get a bracelet on the seiko , but it's doesn't suit one anyway.
I cannot disagree with any of the points you made, there are some who deride the bracelet for the faux rivets but I think they add character. I've been very pleased with mine. I'd guess the best alternative to this watch would be the blue one but my preference is the black and gold. I would also put the Oris Aquis call 400 as a great alternative but that is a very different style watch with the integrated bracelet and I think you call it a 'kettle' case.
yes the blue would be my second choice! Was considering getting 2 but I do not like having 2 of the same watch.
Solid video, per usual. But ive been watching your channel for quite a while but nevwr caught your thoughts on the SMP300... I'm intrigued 🤔 Link?
Thanks! oh I just drop nuggets here and there about it, in random video's. No real one video on it.
@@EscapementWatch Well I'd love to see you get one in hand and review it some day. Bought one a couple months ago and it just barely edged out the Tudor BB S&G. Both great watches but Omegas Coaxial caliber 8800 sealed the deal.
Grats! We are trying to get Omega on the channel this year or next. (fingers crossed it all works out and Omega comes on board) But I have been instructed my future reviews on smp have to be objective only, as it will only hurt the relationship to do otherwise.
@@EscapementWatch Either secure an Omega to review from a private source or don't review Omega. If you aren't giving your honest opinion, why are we watching your channel?
This is the representation of a perfect beautiful watch....haven't found a real competitor for this fenomenal watch. Rolex...nah....
Best competitor for bb58 is maybe something from the Seiko SLA lineup?
love the 58 series. whats your opinion on the new king seikos?
yes the bb58 rocks! New KS my opinion hasn't been formed yet to be honest. Need to study the case finish before I decide.
Very nice, can't go wrong with that one!
We agree!
As nice as a 5 day power reserve is, it's very hard to swallow an extra $1500 for the calibre 400 when the Sellita has the exact same design, finishing, and all important bracelet.
Is this referencing the Oris Aquis?
How does it compare to the Oris Aquis 39.5 with the SW200 movement?
Movement wise its miles ahead, and the 39.5 aquis wears like a 37mm due to its unique design. Be weary.
Ty
welcome
Amazing time piece. Strongest competitor is the 925!
I picked up by BB58 today. I went looking a couple of weeks ago and my AD didn't have one in stock. He called this morning and it was mine by mid-afternoon. So far I am very impressed with everything about it. The size, weight, and thinness are probably the best aspects. By the way, I noticed on your timegrapher you were using a lift angle of 52. From what I can find the lift angle of the MT5402 movement is 49. My timegrapher shows 0 s/d across the board except for one measurement at -1 s/d. This one is going to see a lot of wrist time.
Great pick up! Lift only affects amplitude numbers so the amplitude could be slightly off in my video by 10-20amp. Not a big deal.
@@EscapementWatch that makes sense. Mine set at 49 LA is showing an amplitude of 241. Even though I've only owned my BB58 for a few hours I am already very satisfied with the look and feel on the wrist as well as the accuracy. Thanks for a great review that helped guide me to this timepiece.
Enjoy bro!
I would say the most comparable vintage skin diver out there is the Heritage Seamaster, but at a few grand more.
Nothing touches the 58 in all the boxes checked. If you want a neo-vintage diver that can be dressed up in a pinch, BB58 is untouchable.
Will the bezel Color fades over time
Yes it should in 20 so years
I wish they'll introduce ceramic bezel insert option because I'm very rough with watches.
The aluminum is tough. If your rough on your watches the ceramic will probably crack as it is more brittle. You can always buy a new insert for very cheap every 3 years or so.
@@EscapementWatch, totally make sense. Maybe I'm over clouded by the scratch resistance property without realising the brittleness. Thanks so much buddy!
The only competitors for the Black Bay 58 are the Black Bay steel and the PELAGOS
Much much nicer and classy than a chavy Rolex sub
chavy rolex, ouch! but 100!
Why was the secret measurement cut out? What is it?
Only started doing that consistently on newer videos
Are the hands yellow or rose gold
yellow.
I am also team aluminum bezel!
The price in the US is $3,800, which I happily paid yesterday. I am loving my new black BB58!
Congratulations 🎉
Just picked up my black BB58 before the 2023 price increase.
It’s a gorgeous watch… probably the bear diver for the money you can buy. I just wish Tudor would do a proper taper on their bracelets; seems lazy how they “step” the links versus seamlessly tapering.
They increased the price on this watch again, they're $3800 msrp now.
Where can I buy one?
Tudor Authorized Dealer
could you review Breitling Avenger? thanks
Would love to in the future! Right now we do not have access to the Breitling line as the channel is very tiny.
Now $4,050.
I hope they don't price it as 5k like you said because I still need to buy one 🤣
It did go up I believe to $3,700 this year. Lol.
@@EscapementWatch I'm cross shopping this with the Omega planet Ocean 39.5mm. Do you have a comparison video review of these watches?
$5590 here in AUS .. disappointing as because it's such a wonderful watch and heavily considering it.. went up $500 Aud over new year :(
I'm actually considering flipping my BB58 for a 14060 2 line. Is that crazy?
your good
Wouldn’t the 14060 be a lot more money? It’s the best sub IMO
@@theblackbayexplorer5026 about 11k or 12k. Too much money. Rolex is getting out of control with price hikes.
BB 58 is a gem! I wish Tudor starts to make pilot-style watches, as Longines did.
I’m hoping they bring back the Ranger for a pilot/field watch, this time with fitted endlinks like it should’ve had the last time around.
Longines started aviation watches 100 years ago and has great aviation history with Charles Lindbergh!!!
Awesome video. It would be more boss if you chose a different backdrop than your bedroom for the intro. Too personal in my opinion. Though you’re doing you and that in itself is great. Still on “expression of interest” list for this. Been 3 weeks. They have offered me the bronze, the silver and blue.
Noted! It actually isn't my bedroom anymore. It is a full on studio with sound proofing and 4 desks and different stations for each part of the process. I use the bed to lay on while watching my videos before it goes live on the big screen to see if its good to go! But I was thinking I should do the typical office area with dim light in the back and start each video where I pretend I'm turning on the camera then sit down at the desk like the big channels do.
@@EscapementWatch I’ve been watching for years. I always wanted the Seiko hat. That was my first connection. I love the behind the scenes insight!
It’s cool to see watches on your channel and then own them. I sold my alpinist, one I saw on your channel because I found it too bulky and not accurate. Replaced with the Tudor royal black 38mm as a daily work watch. First foray into that level of quality. I am sold and the movement is not cosc.
Tudor Royal, interesting choice! I get the bulky alpinist issue. I never could keep one in the collection. But there is a really cool grey with blue indices version coming out. I'm considering a 36mm blackbay to replace the alp as a daily sports watch. And people ask about the hat all the time! I wore the hat to a local meet up and was recognized instantly haha
That’s an identity piece. I really enjoyed the watch and would have some fun with the compass walking in the woods. I’d watch a setup video for sure. Like a tgv waroom tour. I didn’t think about have a nice place to lie to think. Thinking and reflecting and being in a creative space is essential. Bed should stay. In regards to the royal, it has seemed to divide a lot of people. Even the person at the botique was trying to tell I should go on the list and put the money towards a black bay like yours. Something just clicked about the date just chapter ring and the medieval look of the thing. The bracelet with no micro-adjusts was also a gamble, as you know they take your money before they size the bracelet. I got lucky just. Could be a fraction looser for summer. It’s the end of winter here. The desire is still their for the royal after the hunt. The black bay … I have to get it the pull is too strong even though it’s so hyped.
My most worn watch.
It’s interesting considering competitors. This is not a Submariner alternative, but you can’t deny the value of its legitimate Rolex connection. Oris doesn’t have that.
Depending on who you are oris not having that maybe a good thing for you
3,800 it cost in US
You will be mine one day ....in Silver 🙏🏽
No doubt
always will be
Can you give us reasons why you don't care for the Sea Master??
Cartoon font on bezel, cheesy skeletonized hand set from a children's geometry class, Helium escape valve looks tacked on, non-tapering bracelet too bulky, the overall dated 1990's vibe of the watch, and more! Basically ever single detail on the watch is a dislike like the chapter ring hash marks and the dial, etc. The 25,200vph is also a little bit of a annoyance.
@@EscapementWatch Understandable thanks for the info.
@@EscapementWatch For that Brosnan era watch, it looks as though they made best efforts to create an un-Sub, as though every aspect of a Submariner was dismantled, changed, then reassembled without consideration if the new composition worked well, only that it was an anti-Rolex. But for newer releases, I do like the return to the 1957 styling.
Almost perfect proportions...
yeah almost. what you want a shorter lug to lug maybe?
I love it. It just I really hope it had a ceramic bezel insert, especially at this price point. That's it.
$3900 USD
I do prefer this guy on the nato bracelet !😍🤩and i couldn’t agree with you more,ceramic shiny bezels are nothing but 🤮💩🤮💩
I've had mine for about 10 hours now. Perfection.
Guys why would you chose BB58 vs standard BB (if same color)?
Simply because of the proportions. The 41mm is very tall, which means the slab side is too prominent and throws the proportion off. It is also too top heavy and protrudes out from the wrist too much. But your mileage may vary. You should definitely try them on in a shop (if there is any stock).
I have both the Black Bay 41 blue and the BB58 blue. First, they may not be for the same buyer at all, given the differences in wrist sizes among the population. I don't think they are watches that most people would cross shop as an either/or option. Generally, I suspect it would be one or the other.
Second, because they are so very, very different, I am happy to have them share a place in my collection. Sometimes you want a small, thin tool watch. Sometimes you feel like swinging around a hefty chunk of iron. Despite the weight and proportions of the 41, I find that it is still a very comfortable watch to wear. It looks big. It feels big but I could still wear it indefinitely if I had to.
I’m used to wear a Formula 1 GMT 41mm which I only recently discovered was 41mm actually which I don’t see as bulky at all… that’s why for the 39mm BB I was wondering if not too small. Sure need to give a try at AD.
No, IMO we should all get the zenith chronomaster original in 2022.
Great plan!
It's perfect for you because of your wrist size. I have 7.5 inch wrist, and so the regular version is perfect for me. I see too much emphasis on the 58 when it's not about the 58; it's about the black bay. Allow your wrist size to chose which size to get.
Stop this dive watchs mate, you know this one has not any soul... 😉 we are all waiting a 2022 King Seiko super rewiew from you!🙏
Sadly the 2022 KS is a boutique edition, so it will not be coming to the channel as Kavar jewelers is not a Seiko boutique. Just a Seiko AD. But you never know. We will still be trying our best to get hands on with one.
For even better value, I would choose a Norqain Neverest which contains the very same movement as the Tudor.
Not absolutely the same movement as in BB, for example it dont have the same anti - magnetic hairspring the Tudor watch have.
Tudor #SMARTMANSROLEX