The Terra-Nova Pioneer 2 and the Terra-Nova Wildcountry Helm 2 review

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  • Join me as i take check out the Terra-Nova Pioneer 2 and the Wildcountry Helm 2. One is £400 and one is £200. What one would you pick
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  • @bazzmidas
    @bazzmidas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing. Great to see the tents side by side.

  • @slothfrattelli
    @slothfrattelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate all your videos mate. Have recommended to friends and family.
    Been on a similar path to yourself getting into the hiking first then venturing into camping.
    Currently rocking a 1-man OEX Phoxx v2 so far but keeping an eye out for the right 2-man at the right price when the time comes.
    Keep up the good work bud. Look forward to future vids 👍

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks matey I really appreciate that. Yea that's how my wild camps started too. Thanks for watching mate atb James

  • @gerrymcveigh
    @gerrymcveigh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    James, great backdrop for the tent review👍 I can see why you love both tents as they both look pretty good in terms of specs and appearance. Makes sense that you would use them for different purposes. Very useful and comprehensive talk through of the tents from your perspective👍 Have found Terra Nova great when my Laser Competition needed repaired.

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers matey yea both tents are brilliant. That's my third terra nova. Yea that spot I camped iv done a few times and never get board of it. Thanks for watching mate atb James

  • @cardboardfanatic3309
    @cardboardfanatic3309 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite spot is just down the slope from the pitched tents where the daffodils grow and the spring for water is. Absolutely stunning spot. Loving the videos.

  • @Wild-Camping-Geordie
    @Wild-Camping-Geordie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the Helm 1 & 2 , the compact helm 2 has two way zips as well 👍

  • @LadyStrzygaPenitentialCell
    @LadyStrzygaPenitentialCell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this! 😊 Have a wonderful day my friend 👍

  • @bernardscott1783
    @bernardscott1783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review pal as just got the helm 2 of a mate to get me started. Cheers mate

  • @stuartsilver4692
    @stuartsilver4692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the Helm Compact 2 been camping twice in it so far. I absolutely love it its a great tent. Feels very spacious inside that’s why I picked it. It feels brilliant for the money. Nice review cheers mate

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers matey. Yea I have had the helm a few years now and it ticks all the boxes. I would definitely get another one when mines done. Thanks for watching atb James

  • @MarkventuresNE
    @MarkventuresNE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cracking video that mate. Busy weighing up both these tents at the minute! The helm still calls out though! The price pays a massive factor! It’s incredible for the price tag! But that pioneer is also a think of beauty!

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers matey. Yea I think if I had to pick it would be the helm. Slightly cheaper materials but still really good. Plus more space for the same weight and cheaper. I definitely recommend both tent but the helm has more options. Thanks for watching mate

  • @TheJansenJournal
    @TheJansenJournal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video James!

  • @cairnscrow8713
    @cairnscrow8713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the comparison 👍. I have a soulo but 2nd tent is the Helm 2 Compact. I love the compact version and there are a handful of small but decent differences... the poles for example are shorter and more compact in store bag. I was thinking of swapping out the Helm for the Pioneer but decided to stick with the Helm. Don't get me wrong I reckon the Pioneer is a terrific tent but for me the Helm compact suits my need more. You've made my decision to keep it more solid 😀

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate. I appreciate that. Yea I think the pioneer is really good but I really like the options with the helm. Same weight more space. Don't think I could take the with in the pioneer but definitely the helm. Thanks for watching mate

  • @stevew585
    @stevew585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant review, cheers mate, for me its the Helm 2 all day, not just the money but the internal size is better and the two porches, coupled with the minimal weight difference, its a no brainer for me.

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers matey. Yea it's the same for me too and space for two people if needed. Thanks for watching mate

  • @johnymingle
    @johnymingle ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video James, my first impressions are in driving rain and high wind you will get soaked in the pionear, with the top cover...... it will also be very flappy and noisy. the Helm looks very good value for money.....more room, 2 doors and vestebules, thats my choice.

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers matey. yea for money the helm definitely wins for me too. Cheers for watching matey

  • @jerrybritton4313
    @jerrybritton4313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Pioneer 2,went for my first wild camp on Dartmoor a few months ago,great tent,warm,and easy to put up,but like you say getting 2 people in would be a bit of a squeeze ,have to be very friendly .😉

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea it's a cracking tent. But definitely one man with space. I think it will be ideal for winter camps. Thanks for watching mate atb James

  • @cavehillrock...wildcamping
    @cavehillrock...wildcamping ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one James... not many reviews of the Pioneer 2 on youtube, so I'm sure this will get some views - I have been just too lazy to bother reviewing my own! lol. It served me well on the West Highland Way, and for some reason it's the tent I get my best sleep in so I've never had the urge to sell or replace it - hope you have many great adventures with it... atb Sinco

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers matey. Yea it's a cracking tent. It will be my tent of choice for winter camps. Thanks for watching mate atb James

  • @UrbanRatsAdventures
    @UrbanRatsAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

    Snapped my DAC pole in my Pioneer and good vid bud 🥾⛺️👍

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers matey. Yea I've been told to change the poles because there not the strongest. Did you get a replacement

    • @UrbanRatsAdventures
      @UrbanRatsAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesoutandaboutn.i227 sent the tent back because it seemed like the poles was to long and made it a problem and I like summit camping 😃 was interesting vid and made me start looking at southern cross for sale but think all sold out at the mo 🥾⛺️🇬🇧

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UrbanRatsAdventures yea I think for the money the poles definitely should be better. Been looking at southern cross aswell might be good for summits with some good walking miles

  • @lenrice7482
    @lenrice7482 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    top video cheers

  • @davt8615
    @davt8615 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff mate a swear by my Terra nova Gear. Got the helm compact 2, zephyros compact 1.
    Just getting a northern lite 2 havent had that out yet.
    Fancy a southern cross 1 aswell 🤣

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers matey. Yea you can't go wrong with Terra-Nova equipment. I was thinking the Southern cross too

    • @davt8615
      @davt8615 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jamesoutandaboutn.i227 aye its a propa nice looking unit bro 100%

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davt8615 definitely matey

  • @chrism8218
    @chrism8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The compact has the 2way zips mate 👍

  • @giorgiomaraessa3392
    @giorgiomaraessa3392 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello,thank you for the video
    Do you think the distance between the ground sheet and the grass is it enough to protect the mesh when camping on floods floors?

  • @davidhale1568
    @davidhale1568 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think I’d pick the helm 2 compact just because of the short poles and the great bag the tent comes in.
    I already have the helm 1 compact as a winter tent I chose as it’s polyester rather than silicon nylon which stretches a lot and absorb water when wet which can make super light tents a bit saggy when wet. Nice video how have you got on with the pioneer?

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea there is definitely more room in the helm. It's a brilliant tent for the money. The pioneer is a brilliant tent too. Had it in some wild weather and it was solid

  • @vvs3796
    @vvs3796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the question is, what are main differences? poles on pioneer look thicker..so i assume pioneer is designed to withstand harsher weather?

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The pioneer definitely has better materials but the helm is a better design. There's alot more tension on the pioneer poles and one of the doors touches the inner. There's better air flow on the helm and more space inside and two vestibules. I'm looking forward to giving the pioneer a good test in the winter. And I like the look of the pioneer. On paper the pioneer should definitely be better in harsh weather hence the price difference. I would definitely recommend both tents. I'm just picking at the faults really just with having both. Thanks for watching

  • @dannyknight8082
    @dannyknight8082 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mate great vid... I've Just bought the Pioneer 2 yesterday, but keep looking at the Helm 2. As a lover of both tents which would you go for... Its only going to be me in the tent. Cheers

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks matey. That's a tough question lol. Both tents are brilliant. I would say if you were thinking about an extra person then go for the helm. Both tents are great in bad weather. I would say the pioneer has better materials so it might have the edge for winter camps. But the helm is cheaper haha.

    • @dannyknight8082
      @dannyknight8082 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesoutandaboutn.i227 ha ha yep there's the dilemma, I've bought the Pioneer now so I'm hoping it will work well for me.. I don't really plan on having 2 people in there in the winter. I have a hubba hubba nx I love for the summer for 2.

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @dannyknight8082 yea you can't go wrong with the pioneer it's a great tent. Let me know how you get on with it mate

    • @dannyknight8082
      @dannyknight8082 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesoutandaboutn.i227 cool cheers will do Bro and thanks again for the reply. Look forward to your next video 🙌🏻 Subscribed now.. One thing I will do is add line loc 3 tensioners to both the outer and inner.. Really don't know why terra nova doesn't do this like the helm. Bought myself a little bobcat 1. Its been fun to be fair. Enjoyed sticking it in places and not worried too much. I'm going to do the same mod with that. Along with a couple of others.

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea matey and thanks for the sub

  • @samchant9227
    @samchant9227 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bathtub on the inner looks deeper on the pioneer 2 in the video, would you say this is accurate?

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to sure mate. I would have to check. Never had any issues with either but you could be right

  • @djka8083
    @djka8083 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Weight kills the fun🤷 Sadly to buy something around 1-1.5kg you need to spend a fortune.

  • @carown
    @carown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stick with the helm 2 as the wife will throw you out of the Pioneer 2, but I’m happy with my £50 Argos popup tent and leave the wife at home 😀

  • @Northern_Rockhopper
    @Northern_Rockhopper ปีที่แล้ว

    Why isn’t the helm 2 not 4 season when it goes down to the ground like the pioneer?

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought that myself. They both have the same materials on the inner. The pioneer floor in thicker but both would be good for winter

  • @steviesteve750
    @steviesteve750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helm is a great tent, but...quality control from WC aint. Just check the zippers when you buy one, mine was broken. My mate bought a Helm 2 and it was missing a guy completely, luckily we had spares as you do. That's pretty shocking for a tent that's priced around 30% above the equivalent Vango. I've got 3 Vangos and they're all bombs, Not much will knock a mirage pro over

    • @jamesoutandaboutn.i227
      @jamesoutandaboutn.i227  ปีที่แล้ว

      Iv never had any problems with terra nova tents. I know a few people who have had vango tents and say the quality is good for budget tent.

  • @marksheridan8444
    @marksheridan8444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure the pioneer 2 had a loop on the top for your lantern? I’ve heard people complain because it didn’t have one :)

  • @mrmods7912
    @mrmods7912 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The red pole which gos in the middle of the vestibule is totally annoying! Poor design

  • @tom7676
    @tom7676 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder how many extra miles youtubers walk every year by walking past their GoPros then going back on themselves to pick them up. 🤣🤣