The House of the Undying foreshadowed Jon Snow's Fate | Game of Thrones Season 8 Theory |The Pattern
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- In Game of Thrones we saw Daenerys Targaryen visit The House of the Undying in Quarth, But in the books it happened much differently. In the book A Clash of Kings Daenerys visits the House of the Undying of her own free will and receives the prophecy or prophecy. She meets with the undying ones and is told of treasons , and fires and mounts, she is show visions from the past, present and future. It is in Clash of Kings that we get the prophecy that I believe predicts the future for Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen in Season 8 and the True Treason for Love.. All established by a pattern.
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Ned Stark kept the secret of Jon's parents for 25 yrs and Sansa can't keep it to herself more than one day before telling someone!
It's because Sansa is a Tully not a Stark. Also book Jon knows Sansa couldn't keep a secret. Jon and Arya have that little saying between each other "remember don't tell Sansa" which I'm just going to blame the writing room for that because they obviously dumbed down all these characters just to move the plot to where they needed it to go. Jon's heritage will be important in the books but for a different reason and I believe it will be for prophecy Jon being ice and fire will definitely play a part in the Great War in the books it won't be important for politics, I can't see them being pit against each other for the Iron Throne that just happened on the show because that's all Dan and Dave cared about. They didn't like the white walker story line so they went with political drama.
Because shes a woman
It was actually 14 yrs in the books, 17 yrs on the show, but I get your meaning.
Sansa is The Stark of Starks. I hate series watchers focused on emotions. You guys are idiots.
“What else could she mount other then Jon at this point?”
Omg I’m dead
treason of love - she begged john not to tell his sisters who he really is but he did anyways and then sansa broke her promise
@Deep space 9 I dont see why you hate Danny so much
I don't know that you could call it a treason. This was his family and he couldn't lie to them
Jon never lies, he is always honorable and always chooses honor/duty above all else: even love. She doesn't want him to tell the truth, but it's not her call.
@@Jason-yn3ic "Dany". For Daenerys. One "N"
@@Jason-yn3ic UM, because she is/was a cruel tyrant in the making. Like most would be absolute dictators throughout history, they gain support of the people by defending their cause, only to become absolute tyrants and killers as they become corrupted by their lust for revenge and power. The only just rulers are those who do not want the power, because they understand the terrible sacrifice and burden required, but they do so only because the people will it and they do not shy away from duty. Like Jon Snow. Danny is now just a new cersei, and new version of her father, one who would rather watch the world burn than to give up her power, even if everyone hates her because of her actions.
You have been watching the correct show, yes?
@@Rumkitty2000 Exactly! Dany's petty insecurities and lust for power as overcompensation is the ONLY reason why she begged john to be silent. Because in her mind, if the people choose him, she knows deep down she will kill him and rule in fear before "doing the right thing".
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LoonaticX love it!!!
this is the best explanation of the house of undying prophecy that I have seen. Not sure about the last part, as none of us are until it happens but you really nailed down the pattern. This was even better then Alt Shift X's video on the subject, which I consider a pretty high compliment. keep feeding us videos Gray, you're great at what you do.
Whoa woman.. you're on fire..
YaaaaaaaaaaSSSS.
It’s so refreshing to hear the views of somebody with a realistic, fair, and level view of Daenerys.
It’s very interesting what you mention about Danny stealing Viseryon from the Night King... I keep thinking the same thing; in the show in season’s 7 last episode, Danny says that infamous phrase “a dragon is not a slave” and it seems to me, the Night King treats Viseryon like a slave... but, since he was brought back by the NK he might have full control over it... anyways, I’d love to see what’s happens when Danny and Viseryon meet again
I wondered this very same thing until I saw this week's episode. I wondered if Viseryon seeing his brothers or Dany would spark anything to change him from within to break the spell. But George could still change it in the next book since it is still unpublished as of May '19. I've heard other things changed from the books to the show. This scene is a good example. We only saw her in the Throne Room at King's Landing and with Drogo and the baby.
So, I guess there's still a chance for Viseryon to bite Night King's head off cuz "a dragon is not a slave". LOL! Can't wait to start reading the books!!!
There is so many theories out there , I believe I'm having a nervous breakdown😔
Seriously
You kill me grey with your video's, Love the original thought process. Mind-blowing yet again
The depth of lore in your videos is great, keep up the good work :)
J-FilesXD Thank you!
Gray is the fire that slays boredom 🔥
This is why I subbed to this channel!! This video was very well put together and deep AF!!! Kept me entertained thru out the whole video. Very nice!
Ugh, another masterpiece! I love it! I had the same idea that the last fire would be one to resurrect Jon. In my mind's eye I can see Daenerys walking into the flames, and when all is said and done, Jon and Daenerys holding each other in the ashes, unharmed. I think the multiple resurrections hint that Jon will die, and be brought back once more. I know he doesn't want to be brought back, but I think once he knows he's going to be a father, he might change his tune.
Maybe it's not a literal fire. Maybe after his first resurrection, Jon doesn't really come back feeling like a complete person, but Dany metaphorically lights a fire in him again. Or maybe it's that she brings out the Dragon in him, reminiscent of Viserys's "Don't wake the Dragon" threat. Or maybe together they have to perform fire and blood magic, similar to what she had to do to hatch her dragons, to save Westeros.
The fire to love could be burning Princess Shireen to bring back Jon. She's not dead in the books and Jon is. If they put his body into the ice cells (as Bran saw in a vision) and his soul/being is in Ghost then he could come back as a full person--not a fire wight--with the proper blood sacrifice of "King's Blood". Melisandre would do it if she thinks Jon is azor ahai--she was certainly willing to burn Edric Storm, Stanis' bastard nephew.
If you haven't read the book version of the house of the undying, you need to read it because it's absolutely fantastic. The TV show version didn't do it any justice because of the lack of funds to create the black demons and illusions Daenerys saw.
Child of Ice and fire I don't think it was just the funds. There were potential spoilers in Dany's vision. Like the Red Wedding.
that part of reason too
Child of Ice and fire i think the show story is written different from book and ending of both will be also different
I will definitely read it before April.
And they just didn't have time to add in the other storylines
I believe Dany won't ever sit on that particular iron throne, because the iron throne will be destroyed before she claims it. It wasn't danys time to take the iron throne symbolic of her defeating cercei, the night king is the threat as depicted with the snow in the throne room. Dany then leaves the throne room and goes beyond the wall to save Jon in the vision, the blue rose at the wall. As for the final scene, dany leaves drogo and son after she hears the call of her dragons, she could come close to death but I'm very confident she lives, because she doesn't stay with them. Plus this vision is metaphorical not literal, too many people take it as literal. I can't see GRRM being so obvious in book 2 a clash of kings that one of his main protagonists is going to die.
People also forgot that the HOU was a test of danys desires, the HOU wanted to keep dany there for eternity, that was the whole point of the house. Whoever enters the HOU never leaves, dany didn't give into her desires and finally awoke on the ground with demon warlocks sucking on her body, she dracarys the warlocks and walks out like a boss with her dragons.
Bella Richards yep if she and Jon did die then her and Jon soul Should go into an 2 dragon egg a rebirth
Bella Richards To many wrong interpretation of Daenerys house scene, people say Daenery doesn't touch the iron throne, this means she is going to die. What a lazy argument that is.
There are so many trolls around that hate on daenerys
The house of undying was a New future and love for daenerys she didn’t touch the throne because she was going to rescue jon and Company then she will give birth to a child in season 8 its so obvious the the real meaning not her dying
Mark PJF85 Many of those trolls are called Sansa fans, they are upset that their Jonsa ship ain't happening. Sansa is one of the most boring Characters in GOT, sansa fans can't say anything about Dany, because she is a far better and exciting Character than boring Sansa. Sansa Character gets so much more hate deservedly than Dany does. The shipping wars are very bad on Tumblr And Facebook and other social media sites
Tristan York true in away
what if it's Lady Stoneheart that gives Jon the Kiss of Life? She's currently hanging out near the Neck and could come across Howland Reed. He could tell her about Jon's parentage and, in some final redemption for being such a cooze to Jon and/or her final act to honor her beloved Ned, she gives her life to the one child she couldn't bring herself to love. That would bring everything regarding Howland Reed's continuous mentions and Jon and Catelyn's hostile relationship to a full circle and could be cool. But also.... Jon's already died once so if he's somehow dead as fuck again after this pending resurrection.... it's like damn Jon... get good.
Nicole Tramel I really like this!
Nooice
Nicole Tramel nice!
That would be awesome way to finally introduce her in the show
Hello? Jon is at the wall and would have no reason to go to the neck. Catelyn hated him in life and now she's crazy and vindictive. She would somehow blame Jon for what happened. Sheesh.
You're my favourite GoT TH-camr. Talented, professional, entertaining & thorough. I'm glad to have found you x
Interesting. I saw another pattern. The 3 blocks of information seemed like clues to the 3 dragons to me. Every time you get an explanation about fake dragons followed by clues who the real one is. Rhaegar did tell her the dragon needs 3 heads...I think she was being told who the 3 dragons are. Dany is one dragon(the stallion), jon is another dragon (the flower in the wall) and the 3d dragon is the stone beast taking flight from a smoking tower.. the dragon breathing shadow fire from the tower. I first thought that dragon would be gendry (based on the blood and mells prophecies) but it can be bran as well. The stone beast isn't a dead dragon but winterfell...the magic in winterfell activated...the stone beast awakened. The dragon takes flight from a smoking tower....bran fell from a tower that was wrecked by fire. Just like jon and dany bran also "survived" something he shouldn't have. He like dany also had someone talking to him in his dreams....he was told he needed to fly....the dragon took flight. And other than the fake dragon he does cast a shadow. Brans actions in the past could cast a shadow on the future. And if bran is a dragon you don't have to be a Targaryen to be a dragon ...meaning the awakens dragons from stone bit can be bran raising the Starks from the crypts (his powers are increasing and way to simular to the NK...I wouldn't be surprised if he can raise the dead next season).
Maaike R all the posts w/o a heart are always interesting lol..good ideas here
I will tell you secret look Preston Jacob theory this is the book canon only not the show.
I love this theory.
Pamela Ladner I am gonna be honest. If bran or jon awakens the sleepers...aka brings the dead starks back to life...I will cry my eyes out. Arya will speak to her dad again...she did ask beric if he could bring ned back just once. And jon gets to meet his mom. For one moment the starks would be together again. The starks do believe you protect each other during the winter. I will cry my eyes out if the starks protect each other even in death. Thats why there must always be a stark at winterfell...the dead are just sleeping...and all the dead starks must join the others...to watch over and protect the living starks. 😢
Maaike R I would cry too if that happened. There is something special about the crypts, especially in the books and I would love to see something like that happen in the show, especially Arya and Ned but Ned also needs to tell Jon about his mother, like he said he would.
Awesome video Gray, you rock!
Hoorayy!! Great to have another video from you!
Excellent video ! Great job !!!
Can I just say, your videos are on another level of greatness lately? Great topics; stuff no other channels have videos on. You be killing it Gray! This juice BIN super fresh!
The way you structured this video was amazing!
Gray this is a masterpiece. Keep it up
★★★★★ Outstanding, thank you so much for sharing. ★★★★★ Excellent connections Excellent patters! This author how does his wife deal with him daily with such imagination?
One Journey I wonder the same thing
One Journey
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I think this was your best video yet, and I've been following for quite a while! Great job and thanks for all the effort that went in to it!
I love your videos gurrr👍👍👍
Soothing voice just when I’m tired or busy around the house + brilliant info you provide. The level of quality here is unreal.
Great analysis. Really enjoyed it. I question whether they will kill Jon again, even if it's just to bring him back. I always felt that they didn't do Lady Stoneheart because they knew Jon would be resurrected and didn't want to push it too much with the TV audience in having characters coming back from the dead.
Do you think it's possible that Jon tells dany about him being brought back, Dany then tells Jon she would never want to be brought back herself. It's Jon that brings dany back from the afterlife which suggests the pattern of what happens in the house of the undying. Jon dying again would be anti climatic in my opinion. Great video again gray area
Bella Richards That’s a big possibility
I pretty much thought the same!
Dany's pretty smart. Davos let it slip out that Jon took a knife to the heart and was killed. Dany has now slept with Jon so she's seen the knife scars herself. My guess is she would assume Davos was speaking literally.
i just LOVE your video's Gray! and this one is so good! thank you for getting us through this long night - your sweet summer children.
I'm completely mesmerized with your pattern of prophesies. Fabulous video!
Loved this!!💪🏼
She sacrificed her unborn child for Drogo
I hope she doesn’t do it again for Jon
Jon himself doesn’t want to come back
Dan B She didn't want or KNOW she was sacrificing her child... She was tricked.
she kind of sacrificed viseryon, didn't she?
As zia manu said she have already sacrified her child viserion ... and we all know that dany loved her dragons soo fuckinn much
Please tell me what season and episode this was. I must have fallen asleep.
Dan B would you please tell me which season and episode this happens? I must have been in a trance. Lol
Thank you GrayArea!!!! I definitely need to go back an read this series again before the next book/season comes out.
Awesome video. Might be your best one. Lots of detail and correlation from one idea/points to others. Keep'em coming.
Gray, this is seriously the BEST explanation/break down of Dany’s HOTU dreams I’ve seen in a loooong time. WON👏🏼DER👏🏼FUL👏🏼
This is a really fascinating breakdown & theory! One question, why does everyone assume that in the vision of rheagar and the dark haired woman that the dark haired woman is Elia Martell? It’s is clearly showing the birth of John Snow because Rheagar says “his is the song of ice and fire” when he says there must be one more he is telling Danny that there will be one more husband/King (she already had Drogo who was a husband king, she had hizdar who was a husband king, then there will be John|Aegon who is a king who will be her husband. If you look at the patterns John Snow is the all up and through the vision literally right after the blue flower in the wall of ice she is called BRIDE of fire. The vision is foreshadowing her relationship with John.
Couldn’t be Jon Snow.. Rhaegar died before he was born.... “must be one more” he is saying he needs another child.. The Dragon has 3 heads.. Rhaeneys, Aegon and Jon... but the prophecy didn’t happen the way he thought
My Shelby It's obvious to me that's it's Elia Martell and aegon and not lyanna and Jon snow. Rheager was dead before he even set eyes on Jon snow and had no interaction with him, Rheager was trying to fulfill the prince that was promised prophecy long before Jon was born.
GrayArea Can't wait for that scum the mountain to get what he deserves, what he did to Elia Aegon and Rhaenys Targaryen was sickening. I hope he gets it real bad.
My Shelby - I think you're on to something here. Since this is just a vision, perhaps Rhaegar is speaking directly to Dany about the newborn. Her visions aren't exact, as she sees many other things behind doors that are metaphors or half-truths. The fact that Dany thinks Rhaegar sees her implies his words are carefully chosen for her to hear.
Tristan York dude to be completely honest, the mountain wasn't as bad as the people he kept around him. He literally only followed orders; Twyin was the one who told him to go out and savage the river lands, and also Tywin was the one who told him to kill the babes and Ellia Martell. The Mountain is defiantly a bad dude, but not so bad as some of the others, in the books there's only one part where The Mountain rapes a girl, and he wasn't even going to at first but he was so mad about losing the Tilt to Loras Tyrell because of him cheating
VERY good work, Gray! You’ve really turned this thing OUT.
Great breakdown of Danys visions. Best I've seen so far- thank you for taking the time.
Now looking back I'm pretty sure Dany's vision of Reagar and Elia where actually of Rheagar and Lyanna talking about baby Jon/Aegon...
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Nope. Because Rhaegar left for the Trident before Jon was born. Remember? Ned found her in a bed of blood after Rhaegar's death.
Can’t be Jon. His mother was killed during his birth. It was Elia, as she didn’t die; but Rhaegar was told she couldn’t have a third child. That’s why he went to Lyanna. Before Jon was born, he left for the trident. Two reasons why it couldn’t be Jon, it was Elia and Aegon.
Outstanding... if it wasn't for you and a few others, I wouldn't have anything to reference. You pull apart the story, and make sense of it! Keep up the great work!!! Enjoyed this immensely!
This is seriously an amazing breakdown for the prophecies Danny gets. I love your insight, thanks for sharing this.
Going with your theory that Silver is her mount to bed, and Drogon is her mount to dread, wouldn’t it make more sense for her mount to love to be another animal? Like... I’m not sure how big direwolves get but maybe just maybe she’ll get to ride Ghost! To save John or something so Ghost could be her mount to love.
Meredith Foster its a size of a horse dire wolf but yes ghost would be to love as he got red eye very similar to the red door and the safety she will have
One to bed, drogo. (or silver)
One to dread, Drogon
One to love, Jon. (or the wooden horse that crosses the sea, to jon)
See I thought it was going to be Drogo(mount to bed) Dario(mount to dread) and Jon(mount to love)
I figured that "mounts" were her lovers. Bed = Daario (just a FWB), Dread = Hizzle da Lorax (in the books they did marry and consummated it, and he is probably a traitor), & Love = Jon.
I think mounts are her husbands...Drogo = bed because she barely knew him the first time they consummated, Lorax = Dread this one is obvious and Jon = love because She is actually in love with him the first time they have intercourse
Very good as usual! Great insight and information and it's possible that Beric could use the kiss on Jon or Dany.
Love it. You have such a great way of putting things together. I appreciate the way your mind works.
I can't imagine how much work you put into these videos.
So what if the Night's King is Azor Ahai? He has blue eyes. That would be a shock if he comes forward with the Lightbringer.
25Bayor that would be crazy!
Fast forward to S8E3
Impossible because fire is the enemy of ice.
When Dany is walking through the throne room, why is there not a lion symbol in the window behind the throne? Instead there are 7 points with a blue circle in the middle. Didn't the Night King have that same symbol in his eyes?
look this This sequence was filmed 9 years ago, GRRM told DD the endgame 2 yrs ago....
That was amazing!!! 🙏🏻
Well done, Gray! I LOVE this theory!! I have thought along these lines, knew there was something there, while reading (and rereading) the books...so glad you took the time to make sense of it. Very well thought out😍. Keep em coming!
Such an amazing analysis. I think you are dead on in your predictions. The patterns you point out are brilliant. One of my favorite videos you have done to date. Everytime I read the books I hear your voice. You should totally do a series of videos where you narrate the books, that would be great. Anyway, great work!
Couldn't her "brother" have been the mummer's dragon? He was a dragon, just a shitty one.
Lol I guess.. but a cloth dragon on poles seems to mean like a play.. a mummers show.
good theory
the mummer dragon means that the Varys's Dragon not a FAKE ONE! Varys was mummer at once time (actor)
Sophia Wilson that terminology is not only used to describe things actors do. It is used in Westeros as a idiom for things that are false, untrue, made up, etc.
A mummers farce is a phrase referring to something thats stage managed and fake.
Varys travelled with mummers in his childhood and calls himself a good actor in the show when he talks to Ned Stark. His Aegon is a show for the locals, probably not for sinister reasons either. I really do believe varys wants to create some type of fake jesus-king who loves peace. "Aegon" doesnt seem like he'd be doing a bad job at all, he is very intelligent and capable and kind, but a fake dragon is still a fake dragon. I really do wonder if he'll keep it together if he finds out it's all fake, especially if he's set on marrying Daenerys.
It doesn't matter what they foreshadowed seasons ago or prophecy. They are naking things up as they go for shock factor... just the wring kind of shock.
Great video! One of the best analysis of that vision I've seen.
Wow, great work. I like where you are going with this. This would make a great series of video to break down each one with more contextual evidence.
This maybe the best one yet, so detailed.... I love it 😎🇻🇮
Came here to say this. Absolutely epic.
What if Bran has it all wrong. The NK does not want him. The NK wants his bride. Dany realizes this and sacrifices herself in the fire. (Bride of Fire)
Dany cant die to fire though
@@huntdapuncake00 but she can. Every time she has been unburnt it's because she was using magic. Only death can pay for life. When she walked into Drogo's fire pire she was using magic. The same magic was likely used when she survived the fire when she killed all of the Khals. All I know is that Sundays episode will be unbearable to watch. 😕
That would make sense if in the beginning fire from candles didn’t burn her nor did scalding hot bath water her servant warned her against.
Outstanding. The best breakdown of the House of the Undying visions out there!
Love this take on the house of the undying visions great job Gray!
So nerdy 😂 the amount of work Mommy put in this video is impressive !
Please revisit this now that Dany has truly shown herself to be the “daughter of death”
Wow, that was just amazing!
Huge fan, keep up the good work. :)
Outstanding as always. Keep up the excellent work.
i think dany & jon,s baby is the song of ice & fire the NK wants that baby because the baby will be his queen that can have WW babies.thats why he didnt kill jon or dany when dany tried to rescue jon.he clearly let them escape.ive started to read the books again just getting to the HOU part great post thumbs up from me as always peace..
How are Jon or dany ice?
I totally see the pattern but I'm also confused because it seems all mixed up on the third part. So since there are three treasons, fires, and mounts, and also three images per Daenerys title, it seems like each t/f/m would match an image, and there should be one t/f/m per title. This works great for the first 2 images of each title: Viserys = treason for blood, Rhaego = fire for death (Daughter of Death); Stannis = fire for life, Mummers Dragon = mount to dread (Slayer of Lies), Silver = mount to bed, Victarion = treason for gold (Bride of Fire). I'm pretty convinced of these because each pair is either a direct correlation or a cause/effect relationship. But following the pattern: Rhaegar's death = mount to love (Daughter of Death), stone beast = treason for love (Slayer of Lies), and the blue flower = fire for life (Bride of Fire). This makes me think Rhaegar's death corresponds to her marrying an undead Jon, because her dead brother's dead son in her mount to love. A beast waking from stone and a treason for love is pretty Azor Ahai-y so i think she will kill someone she loves, I guess Jon (whose whole life is a lie, slayer of lies). And blue flower being the fire for life makes me think she will do some blood magic with Jon's death, again, Azor Ahai.
Carlisle Momberger I agree with your part 3 guesses.
WAIT oh my god Rhaegar's death scene + Daughter of Death and Quaith is always saying remember who you are.... what if Daenerys is Rhaegar's daughter and she's actually Rhaenys switched with the real Daenerys who was born in secret? Possible? Just seems to fit better. And then she and Jon would be a more Aegon the Conqueror-esque incest
Carlisle Momberger That's not possible, because Dany wasn't born until she got to Dragonstone, and by that time, Rhaegar's children were dead.
Yeah I know, the Dragonstone part would have to be a lie so her title "Stormborn" would be a lie. We already know that Dany's past is not what she thinks it is. I guess the question is who exactly witnessed her birth and do they have a motive to lie about it? This same idea is talked about in the N+A=J theory in which R+L=D. I don't necessarily subscribe to this theory because R+L=J is pretty well proven but there's evidence in that theory that she was born in Dorne.
Carlisle Momberger I came late to the GoT obsession. It didn't start until after season 7 was over. I mean, I loved the show, but I never watched a video about the series, or read a book from or about the series, or read any forums about it. Now I do all three. I can't read the books from the series, because the text is too small, so I listen to them. Unfortunately, I miss things that way because I often get distracted or fall asleep. Anyway, I don't know anything about the Ashara and Ned theory, really, and I've never considered that someone other than Aerys and what's her name might be Dany's parents. There are so many mysteries and questions already, that adding one more might blow up my brain, lol.
Great video . You are always worth listening to for your ideas and thoughts about both the books and the series. This one was obviously a lot of work.
Thank you
Another great video Gray!! I'm glad you uploaded today, it's been a few!! I really love all your videos, you really do your research and are so introspective. You always give us some major food for thought and never disappoint. I can't wait to see what you have in store for us in the next on, please keep 'em coming!!!
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Jamika Paulicelli she has such a lovely voice! One of my absolute faves. Let’s convince her to do Audio Books.!
Lindsay Cariad ahhhhhhhh freakn wiiiiiiishhhhhhh LoL plssssss gray hook us uppppppp
I agree I hear a distinct Baltimore version of the Long Night. I don't know where Gray is from but I am hoping I am right. She send us Ravens it only makes sense.
Victarion, like Jon, is a Fire Wight.
Victarion is A JERK
his got a fire hand thats gotta be flaming annoying lol...
GREAT video Grey! I've been watching and enjoying your vids for quite some time, but this one earned you a subscription. This now by far and away the best HotU theory yet. Well done, my lady.
amazing and I like your patterns... they make sense... great video !!
You may want to slow down on the Shade ;) but darn if that wasn't one of the best videos I've seen. I just hope that the baby doesn't die♥
VonDa in Wonderland me too! I heard that and I was like no no no...
VonDa in Wonderland What are you talking about?
Leslie M. Isaacs Shade of the Evening ♥
VonDa in Wonderland I thought you said, "...throwing shade," that's why I asked. I was obviously seeing things, lol.
Leslie M. Isaacs Hehehe ♥
I have spent some time brooding on all that... And here is what I came out with:
1. Viserys crowned with molten gold (daughter of death), her silver (bride of fire), a red sword in the hand of a blue-eyed king (slayer of lies) - all that is more or less clear, exept that I would like to add that a red sword also refers to the bleeding star and all the Azor Ahai profecy, not only to Stannis, so it may also mean that the profecy ITSELF is fake, and there will be no fire sword, but dragons... All of that, of course, connected to “treason for blood, mount to bed and fire for life”
2. - What if her son by Khal Drogo would live? It makes me think of another dead kid - Raegar's son Aegon, who died... but what if he would live? (daughter of death)
- A corpse at the prow of a ship - I don't think it's Victarion, more likely it's Jon Konnigton, who means to marry Young Griff (the fake Aegon) to Dany, or someone else, who's been dead for quite some time, but still affecting the events, might be Bittersteel... (bride of fire)
- A cloth dragon, or mummer's dragon - the fake Aegon (slayer of lies)
So, the treason for gold here has no connection with the sons of the harpy! Gold is Golden Company, and the guys who planned that treason are Varys and Illirio. The treason is to use Dany, a true dragon, along with her dragons and all her power - to sit that fake Aegon on the iron trone, who somehow comes from blood of Bittersteel
What if in the books Dany will first meet the fake Aegon and even agree to marry him?
3. - Raegal dying with a woman's name on his lips (daughter of death)
- A blue flower on the Wall (bride of fire)
- A great stone beast, breathing shadow fire (slayer of lies)
The treason for love was already done by Raegar: he secretly made an heir to the iron throne, a rightful heir, - and of course when Dany will find out about it, it may well feel like a betrayal to her! All what she's been living for was her RIGHT to the iron throne (her right for home)...
As for the stone beast - it might be Melisandre trying to wake a stone dragon, like she always wanted. But she shall fail, and that's one more lie to slay for Dany
thoes "three" can also be seen as three "eggs of history", hatching one by one
@@NingreenGupta And it's certainly possible that these lies could also refer to the old legends of the Ages of Heroes. Maybe she slays the lies, clarify some thing about certain legends. This may or may not drive her toward the edge of mental instability as she learns what prophecies were true and what weren't.
Very Interesting! Well reasoned and sourced as always.
Wow what a video. You really put some time in with that one!!!!!
Loved it. You're my favourite but don't tell Gemma :P
Lesvosace I so badly want Gemma and gray to do a video together again. They are both my girls
You are super fucking dope, like how the fuck did u put that together ,see i thought about the prophecy from a whole different view ,you speak westorosi very well ,and have all the knowledge so technically youre the first maester thats a woman ,and you are like a young old nan ,i cant get enough info from you ,keep it up gray, cause yes, this is gonna be a very long fucking night.. like 2019 tho ,really hbo ???? its only feb 2018 😂😂😂much love sweet mother 😘🐺🐺
dakar riley Thank you!! So nice of u to say
WOW outstanding video GA! ❤️ ❤️ your content!
I watch a lot of GoT TH-cam channels like Ser Hunt, Talking Thrones, Bridge4, The Last Harpy but you are by far my favorite. Almost everything you say as far as theories go I completely agree with more than anyone and it seems like you have a pretty good record guessing events that haven't happened yet.
My ultimate prediction was: new dragon(s). new night king. and a new wall.
Now, with just 2 episodes left, I'll settle for one of the three lol.
I can't picture a less-satisfying ending than if this ends with just a battle and no more dragons/whitewalkers with like, Yara and Daario riding in at the last moment to save the day
And what about the first teaser with the ice from the north and fire from the south to form a dragon glass wall? It's gotten pretty conventional and sort of lame.
@@wasp_hive_library Exactly! It showed the fire meeting ice at the twins, aka The Neck. There's WAY too many important events that occurred there...one of them is in this season's astrolabe.
your the best youtuber
Rune Crafter Thank u
You not drinking enough shade of the evening in my opinion...I enjoyed this breakdown. Good job Gray
Awesome video grey, learnt so much.
Can you please make more videos with talking thrones. I really enjoyed listening to you two talking.
Girl, u should do a Ph. D. on this. 👏👏👏
simply the best! i just may make it through this long night if you and Talking Thrones keep this up. You two keep me going. Many thanks!
Great video and awesome analysis!
Best GOT TH-camr by a mile, Jesus Christ girl. The shit that some of the other GOT channels come out with is just rinse and repeat of each others ideas. Even Talking thrones who is one of my favourites has gone completely stale in the past 2 months. Keep smashing them out the park Grey Area 👍👍👍
Death Shadow dont talk down on talking thrones just to uplift gray. They both do different styles
Talking Thrones is for people who only watch the show, people who want spoilers, people who like fans service. The narration is really bad. Gray Area's video are for book reader's who watch the show. There is a massive difference in quality.
NeonSunset23 I'm not talking down Talking thrones, he is one of my favourites TH-camrs as I already said. I would recommend talking thrones every minute of every day, Just saying his content hasn't been great of late. Talking thrones is a great TH-camr, better than 80 % of them out there.
Maverick Assasin Agreed, Doesn't do enough book stuff, all his stuff is based on the TV show and the narrative is pretty much black and white. But Talking thrones is still very good at what he does, I can name some really poor GOT channels, but I won't.
Maverick Assasin i wouldnt even know about gray if it wasnt for dan but you guys are definitely entitled to your own opinion, but i do want to add that dan does book stuff as well
I think drogo and baby represent the deads or simply night king...which means when she is about to go conquer kingslanding she gets the info about deads ..so she changes her direction and go with jon in order to fight against nightking and his army ...as she fights against that magic bald man
Akriti Stha spot on, she turned her back on the iron throne when she is about to touch it. She then aligns her interests with Jon snows to defeat the night king
she fights Varys?
Johnny Skinwalker no the bald man whom u can see on beginning of video.
oh right ah ha
So...is this referring to the line “Remember the Undying”. I have to start a refresher on everything before April.
Dammmm thats some in depth shieet! Awesome vid gray, reading between the lines!
This video is my favourite video of all videos you´ve done.
I think Jon snow is Azor Ahai.
The story is the song of ice and fire. He is literally ice and fire by birth. He went by choice to the wall he never wanted to rule. He was chosen as a night commander and a king.
How is he ice ?
Erik Hollywood Ice - His mother’s is Lyanna. Fire - his father is Rhaegar.
I see the pattern 🔥😎 not just you ... I was saying yesterday that I think he may be burnt in the books and the dragon comes out so to speak. Think about all the crazy Targaryens that thought drinking wildfire or burning themselves would turn them into dragons. This is probably part of the prophecy and we didn't know that. They could burn his body and.. or something. Magic Is stronger at the Wall too. Off topic see. Got my brain going again 😁 I love this chapter! What's next yay LoL 💜
Mis Venjenz Maybe he’ll be burnt but be unharmed like Daenerys...after all, fire cannot harm the blood of a true dragon. Then the dragon is him is really being exposed!
Super comprehensive. Great video
Wow.....you’re good! You have a new subscriber. This view rings true to me.
Im done worrying about the books. GRRM isn't working on it. He must be getting a big check to let the show finish his story.
My bet is Winds of Winter is done, but GRRM has agreed with HBO to not release the book until after the final episode airs because it will give far too much information away. I'm betting on an August release date for the book.
When she goes into the throne room there's snow on the iron throne. Is that symbolism? As John Snow on the throne? And not her?
That's so cool that you picked up on how the visions are playing backwards
Amazing, awesome, really creative well played.
She betrayed Kal Drogo for love, when she insisted that he let Maz treat his wound. Which surely his own people had ways to treat.
I do feel that Danny’s fire immunity is pretty well established. She bathed in a tub of water so hot her maids can’t believe she isn’t scalded. She picks up one of the eggs from a braiser, and when one of her maids grabs it from her to protect her they burn their hands but she’s totally fine. Maybe she could be vulnerable to dragon fire, since it’s often described as being more powerful than regular fire.