Handling Skill Gaps Between Teammates
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Gem gives the best accidental dating advice.
Ye
accidental?
I don’t think it’s accidental 😂
I don't think it's much of a coincidence that teamwork advice overlaps with dating when the end goal of dating is usually to form a two person team that lasts long term.
tbf dating is being in a team with you and another person (or more in a polygamy relationship), just with romance involved.
I showed my mom the riptide vid to see if I could go next year and when it got to the dating advice part she was like “honey why are you watching dating advice”
"He covers a broad range of topics"
as someone who was in a team for a few months with people definitely above my level, i will say it can be pretty intimidating, but god damn did I improve so much in those months. I think it helped that we were all pretty new to playing competitive, so while our mechanical skills may have varied, we had something in common that we were all learning. I'm honestly so glad that was my first team experience
This was a Couples Counseling Video but for teams.
Polyamory 101: New from Squid School
thanks for the dating advice gem! i think i can apply this to my games too
Can't wait for the childcare advice video featuring Popgun
As one who has been both sides of this problem: the anxiety discussed in being the weaker player is very accurate, it’s disheartening to feel like the blame on the team’s negative performance is on you, and it makes you tilt very easily.
However there is a dynamic that wasn’t discussed about being the stronger player. Sometimes it feels like no matter how well you play, you can’t carry hard enough to make your team succeed, “how did you guys lose a 3v2?” Was a good example. It feels like no matter how good your fights are, unless you are so good you can nearly crush the enemy team by yourself, winning isn’t within your control. It’s like the experiments by Seligman on dogs, a dog without a way out will eventually stop trying to leave when it’s getting tortured, and this behavior will continue even when it *could* get out.
This reminds me of how, in random teams, I often feel like I'm being punished for the mistakes of other team mates. This is a me problem. And I'm glad Splatoon gives me and others a way to practise getting better at managing such feelings, in a low-risk low-cost situation :)
(Primarily posting this so numbers go up and Gem gets more views)
I’ll speak about my own experience -
I’m an undivved player who was on a div 8/9 team. My teammates were all in s rank, and I was in s+, but I thought that was fine because of my poor decision making. However, over time, when I played with everyone, it became clear that for whatever god forsaken reason, I was the best player on the team. I’m not bragging, it’s honestly just the truth, and I was thinking about leaving the team for a higher level team. At the time, though, my schedule was tight, and I was already practically besties with my team and didn’t want to let them down, so I stayed on and tried to help my mates improve. Eventually though, I left, not only because of skill issues, but time issues. My teammates, luckily, were super understanding and let me stay in the discord while I tried to figure everything out. Now, I’m on a new team. I don’t know how this will turn out, heck I don’t even know if I have enough time for the team, but at least I’m still friends with those from my old team.
(hi slushies and desyncers)
I hope it's going well for you now!
@@halb-acht it’s going pretty good! Even if I don’t have a team I can definitely say I’ve improved! Thanks for your kind words!
this was something that my old team, Legato, went through. we were div 6 players in need of a support who got a d2 support player to join us. At first he just wanted to smurf into lowink (we didnt know who he was) but was caught and for some reason didnt decide to instantly leave. I remember all had to sit down and talk about what would happen in both scenarios if we were to allow him to stay or kick him off for a lower level support player. There was some pride in wanting to win lowink as we were close to doing so already but there was also an argument about how we would need to rapidly improve to 'catch up' if he did stay. Ultimitly we let him stay and he acted as a semi coach semi teammate for us. alot of people joined and left the team along the way but legato still ended up improving rapidly. I think it takes a certain type of mental fortitude for something like this to succeed. I don't regret allowing him to stay since it helped me break into high midlevel/almost high level within just a year but I'm also the only one that stayed long enough to reach that level with the same person.
Reminder that if your partner starts to belittle or insult you for just TRYING to setup boundaries then they're not the one and you should prob leave them.
this is also dating advice 🗿🍷
At this point, Gem should just become a marriage counselor
While I don’t play competitively I really get this video. My best friend isn’t that great at games compared to me, but we still love to play game together. I get to play for fun, which is nice, and she gets tips from me to help her get better. But for me, the best part is watching her achieve things and seeing her get super happy about it, even if I could easily pull it off. I think that’s also a benefit of being friends with your team, you feel more tied to them and in a way, their achievements become yours too.
That’s so wholesome! Shoutout to all you guys out there who are caring and help those below you to achieve their goals as well
No new drizzle season trailer thanks for helping me cope
This was really interesting and I'll have to think about this more in my own time.
This does reminds me of when my teammate and me got into a debate about how an anchor should be playing.
He argued it would be easier to be spawn camping to the best of your ability when you have the chance to try to time out the objective (this was splatzones in particular)
I was arguing that an anchor should try to keep safer spots to offer jumps and the try to play the objective.
In the end I said that it was normally a case by case basis and that different anchor weapons would play differently. We never had a proper conclusion.
Im not sure how but gem always finds a way to give advice about the exact issue im having in my life at the time in one way or another
Are you inside my brain??? I'm drawing a comic right now with my Splatoon OCs in this exact situation.
whats your comic called
Found this a bit relatable, as currently Franky is in a situation where he's trapped essentially, recently got to S rank in Anarchy Battle and ever since things have not been going so well for him. Franky's done at least 5+ Anarchy Battle Series and in every single one he'll lose all his lives, no matter the current mode. So he's been trying to figure out if the way he's playing is not good enough in some manner that causes his team to lose, or if it could be his teammates, or even the fact that it's difficult to coordinate as well as the enemy team seems to be able too. Watching this absolutely helped better shape the way Franky has been thinking about his situation, and he thinks it might help him to chance some things and get out of this loop. Thank you tons for making this video, it really helped!
ah yes another episode of my favourite series:
real world problems explained in terms of squid game
This was genuinely dating advice that I needed
Thank you for putting this out close to the time high school esports starts. This will be so useful going into the upcoming season.
I have a sister who I have spent months convincing to finally check out splatoon 3. She loved the game and asked to play doubles so I’ve been slowly coaching her and on strategy and play styles. It’s honestly incredible seeing how quickly she improved at the game I’m such a short period of time. After a while I even found my own games improving and my x rank score jumping higher than it’s ever been. I definitely recommend playing with new players. It has been so fun looking at the game through a fresh pair of eyes, and it’s honestly made me love the game more than before.
I'm only playing with friends every now and then. Especially since they don't play the game as much as I do (and haven't seen "Gem's picks") this video contains a lot of useful ideas so I don't overwhelm them with what I want them to do when we play together.
Setting up boundaries (like telling others about them) have never been my suit, so this is interesting
Man this vid reminds me of the team i used to play with, they were really good and i remember we even got like top 50 on a nintendo tournament but we had some problems because our leader had some insecurities about his gameplay, we never played after the team disbanded, but i still have fond memories of some of our game sessions because we had some great sinergy
This is part of the reason I derank in salmon run every so often. It makes me feel like Im teaching others but also refreshing myself
8:05
You mentioned a top player "on Earth" and I was so confused... for the whole story I was waiting for some Splatoon-playing aliens to show up like in Space Jam.
I've been thinking about joining competitive Splatoon and I've been worrying about something like this happening so this video was really helpful :)
The worst part of being the strongest is your team not even realizing or recognizing you're blatantly stronger and then making you a sub because a tri-stringer did some cool trick shots in Open
8:00 this NEEDS to be an anime or web comic
This isn’t just dating advice, this is also manager advice.
Squid school I love your vids! They’ve helped a lot
Thank god, we got an advise on Anarchy Battles.
I recently had someone join my team who was definitely a better player than basically everyone on the team mechanically by a couple divs. But it turned into a situation where they were the one attempting to run everything and expecting us to play around them which just wasn't working especially because we were specifically trying to improve our comms and teamwork during the time they joined and it just wasn't working cuz they refused to play around our callouts and attempt to just solo a 1v3 constantly which sometimes worked, sometimes didn't
We did end up just saying it wasn't working out and they mutually agreed to leave the team
What if you play with a friend who externalizes the stress and you internalize the stress and you’ve talked to them about it multiple times and nothing changes? 🥺
Thank you for the video to help with Nintendo abandoning us
I play with people who are amazing at utilizing your advice. I have grown so much by playing with people much better than me and maybe a little worse than me. My current splatoon community is awesome!
3:46 speeeeen
Great topic & great points about it!
As someone who recently had something of an argument with my friend about something similar to this, I'll admit I'm not coming out of this video with a solid conclusion of where to go from here or what to do, as I hoped I would...
In my situation, I'm someone who wants to find a weapon or playstyle I find fun and stick with it so I get the most out of my matches, even if a weapon is sub-optimal I still want to use it, take advantage of as much as I can and TRY to push it in certain ways to both be good at that weapon, and competent enough in matches. In my case, Squeezer is a big one. I like what it offers and want to try and take advantage of it's kit, the main weapons unique gimmick, etc. That said, a friend who I play with is much more serious about the game than I am and we had a big argument over me being frustrated that I wasn't having fun playing my weapon because I was told, to massively simplify, "Your job is to sit back here and spam tap fire and that's about it" and would make passive aggressive remarks when he saw me using the spray fire, or remarks like "Yeah splash wall sucks it really needs a bomb save your ink don't bother". And it's not that I think he's incorrect about what the optimal play is, using tap fire more and using it's range to my advantage and all that, I know he's right. But not taking advantage of a part of my weapons kit and being essentially backseat gamed doesn't sit right with me either, and is definitely MY FAULT, and It definitely creates a skill gap between us and, as you addressed, Gem, makes me feel..."Anxiety of holding my team/teammate back". I've actually wanted to play with him a few times over the course of this week, but that part of my brain just makes me chicken out of it, knowing I'm either forced into a playstyle I don't really vibe with in order to "improve" at the cost of my enjoyment, or have to risk knowing my friend has to "put up with my bullshit" for a lack of better term. He's said he'd be more mindful of what I was saying about this stuff after we had that argument but like...part of me interprets that as "I'll let you play like a moron and just not say anything" and it doesnt change the fact that I feel like I'm holding him back, that I've coerced him into a state of "I have to TOLERATE you" more than anything...
When I first clicked on this video, I was expecting a conversation about how to handle having 1 teammate who is lagging behind everyone else, rather than 1 who is far ahead. But I suppose I can extrapolate based on things that were said in the video
I have realized that this is also, also, also DnD group advice. Thanks again for your wisdom, Gem!
10:05 Hits so close to home. What was once my longest standing friendship ended because of this exact problem. It sucks for whoever is holding in their resentments, and it just feels awful for those who don't realize they're doing something wrong
good advice and cute video! love it!
Dam I didnt know how much i needed this video. I myself am on a team with a bunch of my friends, all of them being new to splatoon 3 or a late arriver in splatoon 2 and me being a "I got splatoon 1 on launch day" veteran. The skill gaps are insane, with me getting X rank and one of our teammates still trying to even unlock ranked (he's a new teammate- he wanted to join really bad lol). They nominated me as captain, but I kinda suck at it and I myself am an external person so when my friends act a little sucky during practices, I tend to snap at them. (I almost broke up the team because my now best friend wouldnt take our team seriously and never cared to improve unlike another on our team). Guess this taught me how I should be acting as a leader... We have a meet up soon cause I've been trying to schedual more regular play togethers. Any major major tips I should get before I accidentally make my friends worse at the game? (Also, I say competitive- We've never done a tournament before. All of them cancel right before we sighn up so I have no real "competitive experiance" sorry;-;)
Maybe skim through the early parts of the "How to Get Out of _ Rank" series for Splatoon 2 to get an idea of what common mistakes you'll be seeing to get a sense of what you can expect they'll get right and what mistakes they'll make. Aim to praise and encourage them more often than you correct them (this is hard but it's important! I've lost students to being too critical too quickly)
thanks:) @@SquidSchool
Happens to me with my frends, I have been VERY heavily playing the squid shooting game since mid 2020 (2 was my first) and my friends absolutely suck (I have 710h so far, not very much due to uni...pain) , which in turn makes me suck, which also makes us go into a 14 loss streak...at the end of it I just didn't wanna touch the game ever again cus playing with friends with a considerable skill gap (I'm S, friends are B) between you and them makes it unbearable to play online.
It was still fun as hell (and hilarious) because of the goofy deaths, and I would have to run circles around them to keep the least skilled one from getting killed, so she could paint and kinda enjoy herself lol.
We aren't a team or anything, but yeah my streak suffers greatly whenever we get together cus they are not that good...BUT I'm determined to make them get better even if it means we have to go into a 20 loss streak XD
Oh hey I really need this video lol
I have the problem that whenever I enter a 1v2 fight or a hard fight, I get anxious and start wave-aiming
Ah yes dating advice x splatoo. My favorite 😂
Wish this was out a few months ago-
All in all good video, can confirm this information is true. I also strongly recommend you talk with your teammates if you have any concerns. DO NOT MAKE MY MISTAKES, but let's just say i didnt, and um it made the team very toxic and terrible to be around.
Mission failed successfully. Said my GF had a skill issue and she broke up with me.
Any word on a replacement for discord, Gem? Also, good video
I was focusing on something else for two seconds and we’re suddenly doing dating advice
i wish i had a clearer understanding of what smart practice is I feel like I'm dragging my feet sometimes. . . . I do plenty of mechanical practice doing aiming drills like the flc vid and movement drills, but I remember you talking about a smash player who improved quickly by vod reviewing often instead of just getting additional reps. I would like to know better what that would look like
hey gem, I was wondering if you would be interested in making a video on the validity of criticism from others who can be equally criticized on their gameplay? I feel like it's a common thing to disregard someone's criticism on another player when they didn't play well either instead of fully considering it as a valid argument
But squid school what if our splatoon team is all dating each other :p
(Kidding, but it's a thought that hit me when you made that comparison)
I’ve been trying to play with some friends recently who got the game but I’ve been playing since Splatoon 1 and I’m around low S+ rank and they just started at Splatoon 3 and there a high C rank but we try to play together
What's really funny is that i used to be in a romantic relationship with a pro player.
It didn't work out. Not the relationship, and not the comp together-
Honestly, if I'd had this video to look at early into that relationship, it might've never gone on for two years of making excuses for him breaking and manipulating my boundaries.
Squid School best dating advice channel
8:45 They should though... There could be so much Money in it, the cast could get loads of Fame, & the lovers... Well, they'd get all that Love!
Bro fr said only a 1000 hours 🥲
I had 5k in Splatoon 2 and I'm still not there.
And that's why I'm never going to be anywhere close to top tier in this game lol.
Play cards against humanity with your team
What a great video for dating advice
Oh and splatoon
How do teams with both JP and Western Players communicate. Do they use Google translate for call-outs or do they just speak the other's language.
translate is too slow, just speaking the other language
I imagine they just speak English.
They learn the bits of the language relevant to what they use.
I have experience in this, not with splatoon but running the logistics of a company that engages in exports. I'm Argentinian, I speak Spanish, a lot of the truck drivers we work with are Brazilian, and I don't speak Portuguese, but through osmosis we've both learnt just enough of each other's language to be able to communicate what we need with each other.
Be humble when dating below skill level. Got it.
8:00 correct me if i am wrong but i think that's last resort.
Because pro chara said that his team is made up of his friends.
I’m LI banned and like 2500 Elo in X rank and still can’t find a single team that wants me oof
7:46
I know your talking more on the competetive side and pickup teams here, bit it is still incredibly frustrating to get a match in low S+ solo queue where I have teammates who only get 1 kill while every other player is keeping up with the match.
Im sure Gem has enough content from his videos to just make a whole separate "dating advice" video lol
This is also dating advice 🚬🗿
I commented cause you have 6 views in 1 minute and I have nothing to say but the pressure still exists cause I've never been this early and now I'm gonna ramble on to add some substance to this comment so now you know the general idea of what this comment is and why it was initially made as I had no clue what to write but as I'm writing this I keep on wasting your time which we both know I'm not cause you're over here watching an educational video on a fictional video game where kids can become squids and shoot ink to eliminate and conquer other squid and octo kids while committing mass murder against other salmon fish while kidnapping their future children and selling them to a bear who wants to commit genocide like every other reasonable, tragic and misunderstood entity in these series as inklings are incredibly dumb. Also how did I go from watching 5-20 secs of out of context cartoon and meme clips to watching this and also more importantly, enthusiastically, tragically, morally, kindly, heavenly, helly, baby, birdy, lively, deathly, funnily, diligently, sillillilly, go from whatever my initial point was to whatever this comment has become.
(UwU)
The first one has a list that shows how much money is in circulation in a month or two after a month or so and the amount is determined in a week and the amount in a week or so before a week of circulation in a week is calculated in a week to a week and then a month to two months before a week to three months after a week or so after the month is up and a week before a week or so when you start your new business is the time you are in a month or so after the week you are going into your old company is when the time to get your money and then the next day the time to buy your old business you will have a good amount in a week and you can get a good idea how many times the month and you will have the time and you can start the business will have to wait until you are not
You're gonna be walking this video back for the next two weeks explaining that most of your audience isn't at a high enough skill level yet that they would even need to consider that they're being held back by a weapon that "falls off". The degree to which weapon balance even becomes a factor with a worth-mentioning effect in determining the winner of a match doesn't emerge until well into S+, possibly even higher. However, some amateur Splatoon team is going to take 6:07 to heart and bother their Big Swig player to pick something else just because their single highest-skilled player might actually BE at the level where weapon balance has an effect.
I agree with basically all of the rest of the video, but that kind of feels like a bad example.
Yes I got to be the 699th like!