Inattentive Reading is Hurting the Splatoon Community and also SOCIETY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2023
- docs.google.com/document/d/1t... - flc's essay, "Fluid Priorities and Roles in Splatoon 2" as referenced in the video
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Hmm, I see, so the way to improve viewer retention is to make them feel guilty for not consuming it thoroughly. Keeping that in mind >:)
One thing I have *noticed* (again, noticed, this isn't particularly well informed) said by 'tubers across this site is that if you can get a person to watch for some amount of time (the number coming to my head is 20 seconds?) then that viewer will watch through the entire thing
So true, I was about to go get my switch and pause the video, but then I stopped half way because I though it would be too ironic.
tbh this is what happened when I went through learning how to drive. I passed the permit test while barely studying, and then I was behind the wheel realizing there was still things I should have went through.
ark going from slaying with the tri to slaying with the ford f-150 💀 /j
Wtf....dude that's fucked up
I was the opposite of this.
Too bad the summer at driver's ed went to waste...
@@FloridusMan So you over-studied?
@@soridosuneku Sort of.
And I ended up losing my ability to drive due to seizures so yay...
"This is a problem with society, with our current generation and with our moment in human history, so let's talk about it in my Splatoon TH-cam channel!"
Squid School in a nutshell
This is also dating advice
Squid school isn’t school for squid’s its squids and school
@@Beckett. or school for people who play squid game
How is it that Gem is such a visionary and instead of being an author or like a governor he’s a Splatoon content creator?
but were too cool for scho-
When it’s not dating advice, it’s life advice.
This video was actually really interesting. Debates really have suffered and its sad as I really enjoy enjoy that process.
The best part of this is that it could probably be dating advice too in regards to listening properly when you and your partner disagree. There truly is no splatoon topic that gem can't turn into dating advice XD
Being attentive is also good dating advice.
It also is dating advice.
I don’t even play Splatoon consistently anymore but I still come back to Gem’s channel because they always contain such valuable lessons about basically anything
Come for splatoon, stay for Gem's important messages
i was gonna comment the same exact thing!
As someone with ADHD who knows a lot of folks with dyslexia, I really appreciate you mentioning it! These are things I really do struggle with, but it can’t be stressed enough how important it is to be critical of everything you read. I’ve read some very harmful things in the past, after all, and if I had blindly accepted any of it I would be a much different person than who I am now!!
I have ADHD and dyslexia
@@rockinggamerdudeme too lmao
I love the mini series Gem has of "Video about an issue in Splatoon that's really a way to talk about some serious real-world implication, while still being about Splatoon somehow"
i think the splatoon community is really fortunate to have gem, this is very timely and important advice.
Teachers like you are the teachers I love! Not because your a TH-cam teacher, but because you understand the flaws in us and yourself and understand the psychology behind learning. You will take a moment and plead people to understand more than they do. You have taught me more about learning in this one video than any curriculum has yet far. I hope more people will actually take time to learn before saying things and not simply listen to the first half-baked statement they hear online. Thank you for understanding and I promise I'll try to read more of a text or learn more about a subject before stating it or using it in my life.
My third biggest complaint about my engineering degree is that no one ever taught me or my classmates how to read engineering reports. It was never required of us until my fourth year project, but suddenly I found myself needing to collect information from a report and I didn’t know what to do.
I ended up sitting down with the relevant professor and grilling him for two hours to figure out which information was relevant, how the data provided was related to the subjects I’ve been taught, etc.
My second biggest complaint is that my professors taught us how to solve the components of a problem without ever going through the entire solution. Of course, we were always tested with complete problems.
My biggest complaint is that through the entirety of my civil engineering degree, I never once interacted with AutoCAD or any other relevant software that’s used in the profession.
I was watching a Squid School video one day when my mother, a university professor, was intrigued and decided to watch. After the video was done, she turned to me and said, "I like this guy. Gives good advice."
Congrats, Gem. You got the university professor's approval
from someone who has adhd, it is really hard for me to keep focused on long text. i also still love reading, but since i haven’t engaged in reading in a while it’s been harder and harder for me to focus and sit down on reading things, even books that i like.
and yeah, skimming doesn’t enforce that capability to read. if you are really really struggling then it might help to use use a text to speech reading software and have a fidget toy.
focusing might be hard, but there are a lot of tools to help if need be ❤
side note too, sometimes i also just like the feel of paper instead of reading it on a computer, maybe i could print out articles (and certain essays) that i want to read through…
edit: printing the essay out has helped me get through it! (also i learned my mom did the same thing when she was in college and the text books were online...)
Hey I think that is a neat idea.
my headphones broke and i used shoddy earbuds to watch this, so i used subtitles (speech-to-text) in combination with gem's speech to process it more thoroughly
There's this really great browser addon for ADHD I use called JiffyRead; it's real simple, it just highlights the first few letters of each word. This has been shown to help people with ADHD by giving our eyes something "interesting" to jump to in the next word, instead of roaming all over the page. I don't know if it's just placebo, but it _really_ helps me read long text documents.
I straight up have not played Splat3 seriously in months. I still love your videos as somebody with an extreme passion for minute sociology and general psychology surrounding learning
what is Minute Sociology?
Thank you for making these videos! I hope they reach an audience outside the immediate splatoon community.
Thank you so much for the support!
Thank you!! This is why I appreciate in all of gems tips/advice videos he always states that weapon roles are fluid, and that every weapon will preform one of these roles at certain points in battle, no matter what role your main is assigned. Other weapon role videos never acknowledge this, it’s extremely limiting!
speaking specifically on the whole trend of seeing roles as static and weapons as fitting within specific roles, I think that plays into another thing, our desire to have things be simple.
plenty of people like the idea that a character they play mostly only has one job, it's much easier to think about. and some multiplayer games are like that even. playing some form of backline DPS in overwatch or paladins means you just gotta shoot at stuff and not die, and part of the team is actively working on that last part for you.
it's easy to understand, generally hard to do wrong, and cozy. as long as your shooting at enemies and getting kills, your good! there's also a similar thing with other character archetypes, the flanker just has to get behind enemies and go for back attacks or quick kills, the support just has to heal and do their utilities, the tank has to stay on the objective, push enemies back, and not die.
and for many people, it's hard to want to go beyond that. it's hard to want to think that keeping tabs on the condition of your own team, making decisions off of that, and even having to try and supplement someone else's role or position is something you'd have to do in order to maximize your chance at success. sometimes as a backline DPS you have to do the "tank's job" by warding off those attacking your supports and teammates or even playing on the objective while the frontline is pushed over it. sometimes as a flanker you have to play like the backline DPS, shooting from just behind the frontline to contribute to damage pressure instead of navigating the map to go on mad flanks. sometimes as a support you have to do DPS stuff or even duel for your own sake as there will be times where helping to secure that kill can be more significant than waiting to heal someone or waiting to cast your debuff on that or another target.
now imagine that in a game where there's generally no excuse not to be able to pick up the responsibilities of another player. you're always equipped to slay, you're always equipped to paint, you're always equipped to maneuver and dodge to hold attention.
the idea of having to rapidly pivot between roles is kinda scary and overwhelming, the idea that in most circumstances you may not even primarily fill just one team role can be overwhelming, and I think that feeds an urge to want to simplify things, to say that a weapon is a "slayer" or "skirmisher" weapon and then act like slaying or skirmishing is what you do 90% of the time, and you should generally avoid trying to do the other 4 roles.
it could also just be a solo queue thing, rigid, defined roles are easier to deal with in an environment that lacks communication and routine behavior on your allies part. rapid role changing is a lot easier when you have people talking to each other.
EXACTLY why I have an issue with the reading analsis part of the SAT and especially the ACT. You are REQUIRED to skim to get the best score, otherwise you will only fully complete half of the readings. Sure, I can do math and grammar really quick just by knowing the concepts, but the reading part (and the science part which is just reading about science) is just terrible. Not to mention their cruel history and exploitation of expensive prep courses.
God the science section was torture. It was my worst score on the act and science is my best subject in actual school.
Honestly one thing I will add.
If you start to forget something, or you ever think you might need a refresher. Then don't be afraid to reread that part of the text that is there IN DETAIL.
It absolutely is something I recommend if you need to refresh on one part. Just make sure you double check the context.
I had to read flcs essay 4 times (yes, the entire thing) before I fully processed the info I was being given. Being a fast reader I typically only get the large ideas and I have to read slower in order to process that info. Once I finished it the 4th time I sorta built a new “system” that I definitely didn’t steal and proposed it to my low level team, where I expressed that, instead of roles for a team, there should be fluid states where the team is either “aggro, neutral, defense” (def didn’t steal Fr) that depends on the game state. Lemme know what you guys think very big brain top level analysts (e.g. not me)
As someone who’s studied a lot of history, thank you for that point on history textbooks not necessarily portraying a concept properly/in a way where it isn’t that accurate.
For example, history textbook publishers in the US south are very…touchy about how slavery and the civil war are portrayed, and teachers at the high school level do so as well. I remember one of my college history professors CONSTANTLY having to state that slavery was one of the primary causes of the Civil War. Someone brought up “states rights” and the professor went…”the state’s right to do what,” and the lightbulbs kicked on. Reading comprehension and having an understanding about biased perspectives is important, and I wish the skill was better taught.
I think the problem mentioned in the second half of the video is sometimes people don’t come to learn but rather be heard, which can lead to wildly unrelated things being posted in comments sections (not counting stuff like bots/scams).
One thing that’s mentioned in a few Squid School videos that I happen to agree with is that the “own” or the “hot take” mentality is a winning formula for social media success. This combined with the relative anonymity of the internet leads these kind of comments to be posted where most wouldn’t say it if they were talking to someone face to face. This might have been a precursor or a result of the average attention span shrinking.
I’m not sure which led to the other, but shorter attention spans and the explosion of short form content has definitely damaged some people’s (including mine) to go through a long and thorough piece/discussion on a topic without getting bored at some point. In the past I was able to go through 30 min - 1 hour of something on the internet with relative ease but it’s gotten more difficult in the last year or so and the “I ain’t reading allat” meme is popular for a reason.
Anyway, I don’t know how people thought strict roles would help in a fluid, complex game like Splatoon.
This is why I love this channel, its a splatoon question that evolves into talking about school, work, laws, relationships, life
A side note,
About the skirmisher thing, i didnt know the origin of the influence
of naming those roles came from.
I learned the roles thing from my friends from a splatoon team.
So a weapon is "only a skirmisher", came from that one friend and I assumed he was right.
Now I know that is not the case.
Is the splatoon gameplay in the background just Gems equivalent of subway surfers to keep our attention
Yes
Watching your video reminded me of "The Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagan. He talks about how, even back in the 1990s, people wanted to believe what "felt good" whether or not it was objectively true. With social media heavily rewarding intense reactions, I imagine that's gotten much worse.
One criticism I will make having watched the whole video is that slowing down when reading something important, especially on the first pass, isn't always a good idea, at least for some people.
Instead, it can be a more effective approach to use multiple passes of a text: a skim to get the broad details; a more detailed look at anything you didn't understand while skimming; a finer comb through to check for anything you might have missed; a more detailed look at anything you didn't understand in that second pass; and repeat until you get down to the level of scrutinising each word.
While this can take more effort than trying to get all the information in one pass, going over the broad strokes can help put the finer details in context (and highlight any funny business by contrast) and it means that if you get interrupted and can't finish the text you at least come out with some information to work with when coming back later.
This topic is interesting
Aside from Splatoon I saw this situation happened a lot in some games. Once I saw a suggestion in a guide that wasn't logic to me and a friend tried to tell me that the guide was right. But the thing is the guide can be but you can find strategies that works for you and could be better than the "meta" one.
In Splatoon a thing I understood lately is that I can easily switch roles right in the match and still do something useful.
One time I played skirmisher with the Hydra putting pressure for a teammate to kill it
Another one I played anchor with 52 because it was important to let the team regroup before going in and it was necessary to keep a position otherwise we would have been in trouble later on
Another one I played slayer with the AnNova because I could pick two peoples and create an advantage for my team
And finally I played support with a carbon deco (yes) because I was outranged and I thought "mind as well poke with burst bomb and let a mate get kills
Those are examples if it's helpful to visualize
A thing we forget is that adapting during the match is as important as keeping consistency. And if you can do both it's even better imo
Well said. Other people’s ignorance is everyone’s problem.
ESPECIALLY when they're trying to push their uninformed opinion on other people, saying that what they think is right without even listening to what others have to say.
Will say to start: I am dyslexic so I don't wanna hear that as an excuse.
80% of the time I will properly read assignments in class or the like, and always have. I also grew up without the internet and reading fairly a few grades above my level, so there's that. I have found that in college, while I will still read the material--if not on time eventually if I procrastinated--my attention is divided a million ways. Friends, work, games, life stuff--its all so much to pay attention to and at times I just don't do the research because I do not have *time* to do the research.
I have never read FLC's article because it is long and I assumed watching the videos was enough. Clearly I missed a few important details because I did think certain weapons had certain roles. Now, I will go and read the full thing--but I wonder. How many people did as I did, basically assuming they had enough info and lacking time, and just skipped it altogether? . . . and how much does that apply to every other facet of life?
I would like to also bring up that these effects can also be from over exhaustion (like in the example you brought up from a professor expecting a whole book to be read in 2 days time). Knowing my own (I’m 21) experience and school as talking to many gen X and millennials about their schooling I can say for certain that at least in the usa, school has become almost undeniably harder. Myself and many people I knew growing up were expected to be able to complete homework that took 3-5 hours *per* class everyday. That’s not a hyperbole either, but quite a literal statement. I’ll never forget how just scammed I felt when most older folk recalled their homework taking 2 hours *at maximum*. Students are expected to handle an absolutely insane amount of work on average which made a lot of us more likely to try and escape through social media / the internet in general after being physically incapable of focus anymore. I, e in my observations the problem doesn’t solely rely on people just wanting a quick way out of a single tough situation, lots of the kids and young adults are experiencing non-stop pressure from everyone around them to be frankly near super-human at times on top of the world burning around us. I kind of just wish that more older people would be able to realize or even be aware of things like this because I can say from experience the insult of our natural human reactions to our situation being perceived as a personal moral failing on our part is one of the worst feelings a lot of people my age have felt
"This is, as the kids say, relatable." 🤣oh gem
I remember last year trying to get into playing competitively, and doing some research and reading on the roles from videos and competitive glossaries. I figured this Support role sounded like something I would be into, and tried N’Zap and played purely to paint and toss out coolers. I ended up extremely frustrated with my teammates as I was losing despite seemingly performing my “role”. It was only when I actually read the FLC and understood how the “roles” tie into essential priorities that my mentality improved. Pick up the Carbon Deco, understood that while I was better at slayer with the weapon I needed to be flexible based on the immediate needs of my team, and had a much better time.
As humans we also really like nice neat categories, which might explain why people like pigeonholing weapons or themselves as teammates and struggle understanding what something more vague like a “support” weapon. I feel even pro players/content creators fall into this trap as, while they understand the need to be flexible, when discussing weapons they want to communicate its strengths and FLC roles became easy shorthand for that.
awesome video! i cant speak for everyone with ADHD, as for myself however, ive definitely been familiar with the negative effects of skimming on reading comprehension for a while LOL. it is so easy to start skimming without even realizing it- especially when you try & start over bc well you've already read a few of the word so its even less focus-holding than it was the first time, at least for me. its a vicious cycle LOL but skimming just doesnt cut it when im trying to read/understand something for real. this is why an assignment given to someone w ADHD takes a lot more effort from us even if its identical to the work given to someone else. im glad Gem recognizes the struggle, most teachers in my experience dont care. at a certain point, a lot of us just give up during school. we get too mentally exhausted & dont want to (or in extreme cases, can't) try anymore. im sure u can notice when it happens
as for something more on topic (LOL), ive definitely noticed myself fall into static-role type thinking, especially when i was first learning abt the game overall (im still a pretty new player). its very appealing bc it does make things a lot simpler than how they actually work! but it is an incorrect way to approach roles and, ultimately, unhelpful. thats why i love your videos, theyre always making me rethink & be aware of how im approaching the game, and i always feel like a better equipped player by the end :D
My entire government class in high school had an emphasis on this, I appreciate the acknowledgement of this issue cuz its really important
I have seen a girl in my tech school who didn't engage in the entirety of the schooling after the previous teacher retired, and we had a new teacher which she despised taught us. She didn't graduate, and I was like disappointed cuz my friend group kept on telling her to pay attention and consider what the professor was trying to do to help them succeed. They didn't and it led them to not get to graduate. It's a thing in life that you need to do things attentively, and it's very much so the same in games.
I’m in the Fire Emblem fandom. we don’t even just have inattentive reading, we have not reading altogether
People arguing whether E or D is correct when they're both relatively terrible people (but great characters)
7:03 yeah, most people brag to me about "I aced this test, and I didn't study!" rather than, "I studied hard and aced this test"
As a teacher myself, I admire your educational approach here. Your point on the value of repetition is so important for teaching people of any age; lectures/videos alone are hard to genuinely learn from (unless active engagement is a part), so reiteration of key points is such a valuable tool.
Also appreciated your clarification this wasn't hating on younger generations, but rather a thoughtful take on societal conditions and the value of informed critical thinking. Great video!
12:44 This is a few forms of many. I have watched certain forms of Tiktok debates where 1-4 people are ready for a debate and the host was also the moderator, and sometimes a guest would cross a line and EVENTUAlly get kicked out. I also see podcasts like Factually, where people who fundamentally agree can share knowledge comfortably. Both of these have shown me so much information and skills in communication, especially related to bs some people push.
Watching this video finally made me understand the phrase "rotating" in regards to splatoon. Its really cool that we are able to rotate and do all of these roles, even as a backliner!!
A lot of times on social media I will start typing something because I found the discussion initially interesting, but as I go I keep finding myself adding more and more pre-emptive "counter-arguments" because of how exhausting discussion online is with so many people who want to just prove others wrong so they can feel smart. At some point while I'm adding the third or fourth "asterisk" explaining an obvious exception that SHOULD be a given, I just delete the comment entirely and give up.
If I can feel that level of exhaustion as a random person on the internet, I can't imagine being even REMOTELY public facing and dealing with it.
Good video. I don't have much else to say, but I appreciate the fact that you're not only pointing out that this is an issue, but also explaining why believing in static roles is bad and how similar beliefs caused by not reading/watching content in its entirety happens in real life through this habit.
With less than 4 hours of sleep and a sleep schedule that is completely gone.
And also being on a bus going to the world youth day at Lisbon. I'm sorry if i won't get all the information in this video...
But i think it's pretty justified and also this is one of the only videos that i truly enjoyed in this trip.
So at least thanks for making this easier cuz i'm completely dead mentally. Love your videos hopefully i will remember to watch this when i have more attention to spare.
I believe that this problem extends further from the inattentiveness that a large chunk of people seem to have (or might be branch to it), which usually boils down to the lack of long term interest. I've debated and helped out a good amount of people understanding mechanics, terms and other parts of this game (which includes others as well), and usually the largest issue with providing said aspects is that the recipient needs to have the will to focus, see perspectives in a different light and understand things on a broader vision, and not end up making up things on the spot, having a lot of presumptions while not seeming to stick to the topic for an extended period.
It makes it difficult to provide any type of help or information as well as engage in discussions when the other participant is not putting as much effort into them, and it also causes me to believe that they want to receive/provide quick opinions or even the wrong validation rather than lengthier and more informative statements. This is part of the reasons misinformation tends to spread around as these individuals tend to stick more into their own beliefs rather than keep themselves informed by the most competent people there are. Less informed individuals should still remember that even the most competent can make errors, which is why their attentiveness and understanding should be put to the test, to see if their statements make sense in the grand scheme of things. Biased opinions and thoughts should be put aside with rational and reasonable ones to be considered more for healthier engagement.
im not gonna lie, this exact thing is what gives me so much pain thinking about the human race. the amount of people who refuse to fully inform themselves on topics before formulating opinions is rough as fuck and is only causing pain to others
Gem please get brown contacts you're staring into my soul im shaking
Thanks for the great life advice. I have ADHD, and will often have to reread things as I will read the words but my brain is thinking about something else while I’m reading them and I’ll realize I haven’t actually processed the past few paragraphs. I’ve even gotten in the habit of pausing videos or rewinding to be sure I processed what was said. And I’ve on occasion posted a comment on a video before finishing it (as I’m afraid I’ll forget my point if I wait) but I try to go back and edit or delete it if it gets addressed further in the video.
12:36 Even back in the Classical period Vergil's Aeneid contained the line: "Rumour, than whom no other evil thing is faster." It's far easier to state many exaggerations, distortions or even outright lies (known as "Gish Galloping") than it is to correct them with accurate information.
In a public debate it's possible to get away with this, taking advantage of the limited time and counting on the other debater to not be a well of knowledge on the scale of a full library, but it's obvious this is a very deceptive tactic with the intention of giving you an easy "gotcha" ("you didn't address this one statement of the 50 I mentioned, so I win") or frustrating the other debater into rage-quitting as you mentioned with online people looking for debates.
I can definitively see the culture with having to make things short keep people attention. I feel like a lot video game criticism videos end up having some good points but the voice/attitude they use that insults anyone watching who might disagree with them has made me comment a rebuttal(or just an insult back at them) without watching the whole video. Ultimately the viewer will click off and they don’t end up changing the minds of anyone who disagreed with them.
I tend to glaze over when I watch these videos because I get distracted by the game footage. As soon as I recognized that was happening I made sure to tab away and just focus on listening. It works well!
Gem, I really appreciate the way that you tackle important subjects in such a down to earth and open manner. You introduce issues both in the familiar context of how they apply to Splatoon and its wider community, while also expanding clearly and calmly how these same contexts can be applied over a greater scale - and most of all, you do so in a way that doesn't make people feel defensive, but instead encourages growth. Your background as a teacher shines through, and I am sure you must have given a lot of folks an excellent grounding in life both then and now. Thank you for taking the time to create the content and discussion space that you do.
I am 28 years old next month, like I am autistic, and I do struggle, like mental health, tilting on Splatoon 3(And Gaming) also I had bad history with social media like I had trauma from social media, I hope new generation of people will be in good health, and not go dumb like social media, and gaming.
Just need new generations to be in good health. Also, I’m the TTek main, I wish I can 5 star a TTek.
I've been in a similar boat. The best way to reduce tilting (and I know this sounds obvious) is to just not play.
I stopped playing Splat3 awhile back and I've never really looked back. I found that I raged because it became routine. Log on, get mad, log off. Day in, day out.
Even taking a week's break should give you a clearer mind. From there, decide if you want to go back to playing it or if you want to leave the game behind. You can always change your mind later on if you want to pick Splat3 up again if a new update comes out that you like the look of.
Hope you didn't panic when you saw (or i guess if you see) this message. Trauma is rough but one day you'll be able to look back proudly that you overcame your fear of social media.
It makes logical sense to have class categorises such as frontliner backliner skirmisher. Doing all of them is flex. It’s good to categorise yourself into a play style. Because especially in splatoon team comps need a mix. Putting yourself into a class also makes you play to your weapons strengths (imagine an expo doing the frontline fraging)
It's still possible that acting outside a weapon's role is the optimal decision (e.g. an E-Liter forced to tap-shot an enemy who popped up in front of them, a Big Swig hiding to get the drop on a nearby enemy, an Inkbrush being the only one left to hold off a push).
My god, I want you as my teacher, the way you did this video was honestly so spectacularly done. Your teaching methods are genuinely really great and really put into perspective the problem you are informing us about. Gonna be honest I felt really informed and I sometimes have that problem of skimming and fully not understanding something I'm reading through. You make me want to combat this problem, so that I'll never do it again and help myself to be more informed when discussing my opinions. Very well done! And yes I did watch till the end and I to hate when people judge videos when they haven't seen the full thing let alone a single minute.
It might be a little silly but another content creator I enjoy leaves a secret word at the end of their videos that keys you into who has watched through the video if they include that word in their comment. Of course, you could just skip to the end to get that word, so that isn’t exactly as airtight as I’d hope for it to be, but I like the idea.
Alright so dualie squelchers is a skirmisher weapon, gotcha!
Whenever I’m coaching people in salmon run it’s common when I tell them they’re playing passively they just often go “I’m just playing my role” ignoring the factors and how salmon run is a completely different game mode than pvp. Just because you’re a splatting does not mean you camp basket the entire wave.
"if you're planning on actually weighing in on a subject, sharing your opinion. Make sure that opinion is informed" realest thing i've heard all day
Roles are definitly something you have to be critical of, If you get yourself in that mindset it's difficult to see matches from other perspectives.
However I do believe there's still reason for them, It's useful to know what teamates are comfortable playing so the positions they're given are more in line with their strenght.
I think one more element of the weapon roles problem specifically, is simply that people don't care to understand or incorporate the idea of "flexibility", yes even when it is in *the title of the essay*; as much as they want to have something to oversimplify/label/categorize with. the facts are less important than the convenience/packaging.
as soon as you give a bunch of gamers these labels, these squid-paintball D&D classes to pin on themselves or their weapons as a buzzword in their bio, they are satisfied to not accept any further information that would disrupt that organization.
so I'd argue, again regarding *specifically* the weapons thing, that in plenty cases it's not so much "they didn't read/understand the information", but rather that they discarded/rejected the facts because they weren't what they wanted to hear.
Love how much general insight is included in this video. Great stuff!
I just had a similar conversation regarding one of the most-regarded violin scale-learning resources (after watching a similar video discourse on that material). I appreciate how widely-applicable this information is...well-beyond Splatoon or gaming in general. Thank you!
I came into this channel for ways to get better at a game I bought a month ago, but am staying bc I am learning so much more beyond that 😭 tbh these videos feel like a version of DBT that I can actually put into practice, and I’m very thankful for that.
Looking forward to another video of gem bringing facts&fire, and showing how issues in a squiddy game also apply to society in general ^^)
Aaaand he nailed it again
5:07 GEM WATCHES JOHN OLIVER
I am not writing this to contradict any thing in the video, I just wanted to share something.
I have to teach people Blender and Unity. Depending on the person I help, I have to be selective in what I tell them because some are impatient, some want to actually learn; which is hard to do when I’m a classroom.
Going back to the FLC document, more likely the people that read it and other theories are the ones that understand what means to be a skirmisher.
14:47 is a good advice.
I'm uncomfortable about John Oliver because there's clear bias in his work that demands further verification and the comedic elements often amount to non sequitur and ad hominem attacks. I dont want it to become the norm that we argue against bad ideas with ridicule first and counterarguments second. But the part I cite here is really incisive.
@@SquidSchool that is understandable
Nothing to add further 👍
More people need to see this, skipping important stuff like this hurts people instaid of saving their time. I read FLC's essay twice before understanding it and not once did I skip over that part of the essay. It really made me wonder why people are assigning roles in a system where the roles change. As always, I love what you do on the channel, thank you!
This was a great video! I might need to rewatch it when I'm more awake, but in the moment I was agreeing with it, and that's literally the opposite of what I should do from what I understood was some of the main points. So I'll just leave one reminder here for everyone: do your dodiligence
I’m currently reading a book that talks about some of the focus issues raised in this video. “Stolen Focus: What You Can’t Pay Attention- and How to Think Deeply Again” by Johann Hari. As the title suggests, it talks about focus in general, and there is even a chapter about reading.
Also, one critique at (7:00). I get the point you were making, but this is an example of the Conjunction Fallacy. The statement you made was “Which is someone more likely to brag to you about: Getting an A in a class, or getting an A in a class without doing any of the the assignment reading?” Your claim is that the latter is more likely, but the latter is a subset of the former (ie, anyone bragging about the A without doing the reading is nonetheless bragging about the A) and is thus less likely by default. The point you were making is that it’s more likely that someone brags about an A if they didn’t do the reading than any other reason they could have been bragging for the A. This could have been inferred implicitly by your phrasing, but this phrasing makes cases more distinct. And that’s probably true, I don’t disagree with you there, but in other situations, your phrasing could have caused a false argument. For example, is it more likely that my friend doesn’t respond to my text or that my friend doesn’t respond to my text because he’s ignoring me? The latter sounds more likely, but there are other reasons in the former case that could be the explanation. Maybe he’s busy, and between that and him ignoring you, it’s more likely that he’s busy (unless some scuffle between you two happened or something).
Think he meant to say "someone is more likely to brag about getting an A without doing the reading than they are to brag about getting an A by doing the reading thoroughly".
Still an interesting thought.
thanks for the uhhhhhhhhh. where do i take her for dinner then
but seriously nice vid, i think about the psych behind this game a lot so your uploads bridging the gap between that and irl skills are great to see
team roles aren't nouns, they're verbs
I've not really seen the permanent roles thing in game myself but then again I play SR where you can't really have a fixed role. You have a splatter shot Jr and the blaster is down? Guess you better go and sort out the 3 stingers now even though your assigned weapon isn't the best suited for it. I don't know if replacing the whole role thing with a focus would be better but I feel it would help get rid of this fixture mindset for weapons.
The situation always changes and you should be able to adapt accordingly with your weapon in game.
Never heard of flc how cool, I should watch you more!
Your splash is looking super clean
Great video, will make an effort in throughly reading things
Here's something that bothers me about FLC's weapon roles: while every weapon Flexes, to a certain extent, some weapons want to flex LESS than other weapons, and have tools that enable them to play their preferred role for longer than other weapons. Take Brellas, whose play style prolongs skirmishing and delays slaying in a way that most weapons can't do, especially without a bomb.
Not only that, but some weapons have tools that encourage a scenario to flex a different direction. Big Bubbler is a special designed to allow a skirmishing player to choose to Anchor in situations where slaying would be too much of an uphill battle. Chargers would rather swap between skirmishing and anchoring than ever be on the front line.
When players describe themselves as "a skirmisher", they're not only describing the scenario they're best at fighting in, but also the scenario they believe their weapons will create most often for them. Consider how absurd it would be for a Dapples player to describe themselves as an anchor rather than a skirm or slayer, and hopefully it should be apparent that even if the way the community has adopted FLC's weapon roles terminology isn't what he meant, that doesn't mean it's a useless or bad interpretation.
"other people's ignorance is my problem too." as a queer person in the current American political climate GOD i felt that
On one hand, I think tabletop RPGs and games like Magic the Gathering are great for this, because they require you to extensively read through large volumes of text and process them to understand how they work. (In the case of Magic, not just individual cards but also explanations how they interact with the rules of the game.) On the other hand, they're still written in a way which is designed to be clear, concise and engaging, and while some onus needs to be placed on the creator of the consumed content, there is inevitably going to be situations where it's important but it won't be so well written.
I cannot stand a lot of the video lectures in University. I glaze over every 5 minutes, and a 1 hour lecture takes me about 3 hours to get through, and by the end I still don't feel like I have a complete understanding of what I've been taught. It's a monotone voice over slides which is filled with uhming and ahhing. But they're important, and while I'm at the end of my course and still can't get through them effectively, I recognize that they're valuable resources. It's properly boring and difficult to get through, something reading a TTRPG book or a MtG guide won't prepare you for. So at the end of the day I'm not sure how one can make an exercise that students will want to partake in that will train them to focus despite disengaging content, while not incentivising them to find a shortcut or an easy way out.
I was watching the video and actually noticed that I tuned something out after getting distracted by the gameplay. I rewatched those sections just to make sure I heard the information clearly 👍
bruh even with adhd i'll never be entiteled enough to make a comment on a video without looking at everything, specially if it's on a topic that i like or on an essay that kept my interest, even if it's hard to watch everything , because not every part of a video can keeps my attention and my mind clear. People need to stop using conditions before making dumbass comments or assumptions on a topic, that's just bigotry at it's peak . IF YOU DONT HAVE THE STRENGHT TO WATCH AN ENTIRE VIDEO ABOUT SOMETHING DON T COMMENT ON IT AND KEEP YOUR BIASED OPINION TO YOURSELF FFS. With that said love your content and the way you structure your videos !! i am now returning to the shadow realm of the yt watchers, until another topic strike something in me.
honestly i am not watching your videos just for splatoon anymore, because a lot of your videos are just great life advice lol
As someone with ADHD, thank you Gem Squid School for recognising our struggles. I try really really hard to digest things I read, but sometimes I end up having to re-read things multiple times for it to process in my mind and make sense.
Reacting to the way things are happening in the game you are playing makes more sense than always sticking to a strict role. I dunno what nzap85 is "meant" to do per se, but I just switch between defensive painting, being aggressive, or hanging in the backline to help people safely jump in, based on what's happening and how much control we have. I don't think I will ever have the time, focus, or ability to be competitive or pro, but I like having fun with the silly nintendo gun.
I've had to come back to this video like 4 times and I'm still not done 💀
god I am so glad I found your channel
The true passive aggression at the start was a good hook. The topic was 100% valid, and Im guilty of the points made myself. Overall, it needed to be said by someone, so thank you for taking that responsibility
I now regret the way I've tried teaching my friends about weapon roles, but now that I know about this I might be able to fix this before it gets too bad
15:20 double wave breaker :o
I really enjoyed this video, It is nice that someone is able to point out the flaws of the modern internet landscape without eventually moving straight into the path of "We're regressing, return to tradition rahrahtiktoktidepods".
I'll admit I've done my fair share of skimming. Even many articles in general feel like they're created to condition skimming by virtue of having the first half not actually providing useful information related to the actual topic.
Since you mentioned the idea that weapons are not rigidly locked to a single role and flow more effectively, do you have any videos that have already covered the topic of knowing when to adapt to what is needed?
Great essay! For these types of videos, I'd prefer to not have the game audio on ,I find it to be quite distracting. As if Splatoon's audio signals had higher priority over language when processing information. I found myself often winding back 5 or 10 seconds to catch back up.
I'll be real, part of the reason I use it is so you can't hear cars honking or neighbors making noise outside lol
This is exactly the problem I am facing at university, I find it very challenging to throughly read slides and books to learn a subject because of how School raised me.
The education system is such a mess.
Maybe if it weren't, randoms would be a lot more bearable in Splatoon 😂 😂😂
"nO tHaT wEaPoN iSnT a SlAYeR!!!!11!11"
me getting 15 kills with a big swig:
I have a question don't some weapons prefer to be in certain roles compared to the others like a charger prefers to be in an anchor role instead of a skirmisher and other weapons such as a splatter shot prefers to be in a slayer/skirmisher role when it can.
Terrible video, didn’t even have to watch a full minute and I knew-
But in all seriousness this was an amazing video (which I did watch)! I agree, waiting to hear a full, complete argument before making judgements or clicking off a video, is extremely important. Context and the presence of “not”s can be crucial, and if people stop paying attention, assume what they missed was irrelevant and move on, then a lot of info gets lost. Keep educating the squid people of how to think properly, love the vids
Does anyone have any idea where the support role came from? I feel like whenever someone says they’ll play a support weapon they usually just don’t help with fights and paint parts of the map where no one else is and then blame the players who actually fight for not getting them the one despite doing their “job”. I mean utility is the hardest fluid role flc described but I still think that’s a more helpful term than “support”
Good advice, thanks for the perspective.
Aww, man. After watching this I'm never going to get though reading another text book. Understanding it was easy, but now I have to do a literary analysis on it too, GREAT. No, seriously no hard feelings, guess I'll just have to take home the textbook tonight. And in case you were wondering I DID watch the whole video, I got you bro.
Awareness of your own mind is crucial for learning new information. If you broke up with someone hours prior to studying, you're probably not going to retain a lot of information. Put yourself in places where your mind isn't distracted. Instead of studying in a room with your PC/Gaming system, try the local library.
Remember to pace yourself as well. Even the smartest people have to stop and take a break. What's most important is learning the info and engaging with it afterward. More hours doesn't mean a better understanding of the material.
I can confirm that attentive reading really is the community society.
I forgot this was a splatoon video about half way in.
I won't watch the rest of the video, (since I don't play splatoon) however from what I have watched, this video is well made and seem well explained. So continue the good work
Honestly I only heard the terms and not seen the article but.. me personally I call Tetras a "Skirmisher" not because it can skirmish.. but because it wants to engage the opponent often and dodges shots alot in doing so and can need help, I know it can also be a slayer but due to the hyper agressive nature I call it a skirmisher. That was my interpretation when the idea was brought up by someone who wasn't FLC
Pretty interesting video!
Slight nitpick though, I think perhaps your point regarding Splatoon and weapon roles went pretty unnoticed (at least I thought it was meant to be one of the key points since I first read the thumbnail before the title) so the video didn't feel much directed to a Splatoon audience but a general one, which is understandable given the topic but it clashes with having Splatoon gameplay there.
Perhaps you could've touched up the roles topic for slightly longer or near the start of the video to give a clear thesis gameplay wise and then branch out generally, then again that's just how I felt it and I still enjoyed the video and agree with it overall even if it wasn't entirely what I expected