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there were more than one bonobo in the story: koba was just the first villian one. i'm not going to assume or spec that he's related to either caesar or koba. as we know already caesar had two sons( his eldest son learn to speak and maurice/rocket were the last two elders apart from cornilla the kings wife) there are other apes from "other camps" the redwoods was not the only place.." think about it(the last movie there was apes,chimps,bonobos captured from across the world or region)
Crazy part is, Bonobos are apparently more peaceful then Chimpanzees! For such a villain like Koba to be a Bonobos while Ceaser is a Chimp, goes to show how much he hated humans.
It's cool to think about. Ceaser became more inclined to peace as a chimp, and Koba wanted to go to war as a bonobo. They both literally went against their nature.
Bonobos are brutal rape-savages. The only thing that limits their sadism is their size. There's also a direct connection between intelligence and the appearance of sadism as a trait in a species. That's why chimps in particular and even dolphins are capable of understanding suffering and enjoying inflicting it on other creatures for entertainment.
Since ceaser was the one who started everything he is known for generations and he is a iconic beacon for the apes, Proximus taking the name could mean he's aiming to be the next iconic beacon just like how ceaser was
@@ghxstTrap54I saw somewhere that he was using the teachings of Caesar but spinning them so he could gain control. So I wouldn’t be surprised if none of these new apes have any relation to Caesar besides the main character sharing his ideology
@@croceyzx2433 because that will be spoilers?? Sometimes or most directors fooled their fans by denying to prevent spoilers, like c'mon Noah have the same features of Ceasar's
Its so good. And to think this all started with just a man trying to save his father and taking a chimp in as his own. Imagine being in that position and knowing you gave birth to all the history that followed...crazy
@@DuendeCaughtOnTape ngl seeing Dawn and War in theaters was crazy. Dawn gave me Shakespeare vibes for some reason. But go happy binging! I’m waiting to see Kingdom so I can have the theaters to myself
It's worth knowing the apes only took 300 years after gaining sentience to enter bronze age which is alarmingly fast compare to humanity IIRC. Judging from how delicate Proximus' crown and ornament are, it's clear the apes had mastered bronze smithing and it's only a matter of time before they advance to iron age. It is implied that the apes could develop their technology even faster if they have more access to functioning human tech. They built civilization for scratch based on old stories from Caesar's time and trial and error on making sense of derelict human device.
Just because Proximus Ceasar is a bonobo, Doesn't necessarily mean he's related to Koba in any shape or form. But you can argue that Proximus is most likely following Koba's Legacy into hating & hunting down humans. That is a possibility.
But they do share some similarities but Proximus is like the modern-"Koba" 😅 And even if he isn't Koba's descendant, the evil among the apes continue through Proximus.
True, plus it's never said that Koba had a love interest. So Koba and Promixus Caesar simply cannot be related at all, no matter how close they may be in terms of personality or physical appearance.
@@jason200912 well yes and no, proximus Caesar is the antagonist against the other ape but from a progression standpoint he’s the next step. The other ape wanted to maintain his small tribal lifestyle. He’s the copper age emperor that could’ve shot them 1000s of years into their civilization if he succeeded. But ofc he’s bad because of slaves and his distorted views of Caesar’s views
@@maxomega98 I didn't like Noah (Mae mostly) because he sent the apes back to the stone age. Even worse he might have splintered them all into weak tribes and reversed all of caeser's work creating a ape kingdom
@@jason200912 I agree, proxomis is an interesting character I find his motivations fascinating whereas Noah is just naive and blinded by emotions. Spiritually he’s ceasers successor but as of now he’s not gonna push them in the next direction without it being another 300-500 years
In my opinion koba was 10 times worse cause proximus at least cares for apes and wants them to succeed by having technological advances. He even said he is mortal he did care for himself a little but not as much as koba. Koba was actually who didn’t care for apes in fact he didn’t care for any of them all he cared was for his revenge and knew he could get all apes killed.
@@murraymackay9409It's not true, Caesar had hope, but in reality humans would never live with apes, precisely because of a concept of superiority, we will always try to be the strongest because actually, for better or for worse, what man has done it wasn't from anyone else.
JUST based on the given context of the trailers, this ape built ape civilization. Took Caesar’s tribe from nomadic hunter-gatherers to an organized kingdom. Clearly idk if this is the ape that did it, but if he’s maintaining it? He must have a pretty damn good idea of how monarchies and government and war strategy work, meaning he really actually might know the most about humans
I liked him and did not see him as a villain. The only bad feature of him was the use of chimp slavery, but he was able to put apes at the top of the animal hierarchy and I wanted to see him arm up
Bonobos aren't peaceful. They're one of the most aggressive ape besides baboon. Speaking of baboon... I haven't seen one yet in the Planet of the Apes movies so far.
This is interesting, because while I don't consider Mae evil, she is the villain to me. Meanwhile Proximus has many traits one would consider "evil", but I wouldn't say he's the villain. In the end, as much as he was an a*shole with a big ego and tyrannical tendencies, he did have his vision of a world ruled by apes, using technology to make their lives easier. On the other hand, Mae just wants to help her fellow humans, but she seems to completely reject the idea that humans and apes could live together in peace. I can't help but feel she would like to wipe the apes out from existence so that humans can rebuild their civilization... and make the same mistakes all over again. She keeps lying to Noa, using his kind heart to do things she knows will likely result in his and his clan's demise. She's just as much an extremist in this as Proximus. The movie "wants" us to root for the apes, and I think it succeeds, but since that is the default, then Proximus is a minor, though cruel warlord with a vision of the world that differs from the protagonist's. And Mae is the villain.
I believe Noa is a descendent of Caesar, since he asks a lot of questions about Caesar and learns more about his heritage. He even said together strong, just like Caesar who says apes together strong. He's also the same kind of ape as Caesar and he wants peace just like Caesar. Noa is also the new ape protagonist, along with the girl he rescues. Edit: Noa actually didn't say together strong at all in the movie. It was Raka who said Remember, apes together strong as his last words before he gets swept down a strong fast moving river after Lightning cuts the rope
Proximus is about an order of magnitude smarter due to the virus continuing to mutate. He's read about human technology and history. Understands science and technological progression etc.
What I thought was interesting is that many think Proximus is taking the words of Caesar and twisting them to benefit himself. But I think he’s mistakenly following the wrong Caesar. William H Macy’s character says “he has me read to him. Specifically Roman literature”. I think Proximus is following the words of Julius Caesar, who was assassinated because he sought ultimate power. Just like Proximus is
@@V_HubrisTexan Hell no. Proximus is a regular bonobo, Skar King is a bald ass ginger chimp with pulsating blue eyes. I know they’re two monkey king villains, but the similarities stop there. One’s an ambitious dictator, the other’s literally Satan.
I heard a lot of people saying how Noa might be a direct descendant of Caesar and as much as I want agree, we all need to remember that in Rise it was stated how Ceasar's mother had green eyes and apes more dominant had green eyes. Take a close look at Proximus and Noa eye color. I'm might be wrong, but what if Proximus is an actual descendant of Caesar and even crazier if Noa is a descendant, but distant?
I think Noah is a Descendant of Caesar and Proximus is a Koba descendant. My guess is either sometime in the ten years the apes lived in the red woods Koba had some kind of offspring. Some people will counter that Maurice in a book connected to the films said Koba didn’t have kids. Unless…Koba survived the fall. 1. Apes are pretty durable and have been seen to survive falls from great heights, I mean look at Caesar after Koba shot him. 2. At the end of Dawn’s credits an ape breathing which as been confirmed to be Koba by the director. 3. The original play was that Koba was going to actually physically appear in WFTPOTA but considering how much Koba hated humans he would most definitely not even join up with the army. It made more sense for previous Koba supporters to think Koba dead and then join up with the army instead. Perhaps Koba had a female follower escape with him and just booked it to get away from other apes and humans. Then they would have the offspring who would eventually result in the emergence of Proximus generations later. Maybe where Koba hated everything to do with humanity Proximus sees them as some sort of fallen gods/angels and wants to learn as much about their history to better understand his own. I bet Koba wasn’t too keen to pass the story on how he betrayed the ape equivalent of Jesus or something.
@@jason200912 keep in mind this is just the first film in the new trilogy, just like Caesar I’m confident that Noah will grow into a powerful leader and unite the tribes.
@@Thegrrog man all that work from caeser's kingdom for nothing only for all the tribes to be fragmented and weak into a full circle back to square one. and i wonder how many apes died because of Mae's flooding that Noah had to save them from
@@jason200912 sometimes that stuff happens, what’s important is this movie isn’t trying to be 100% accurate to what your vision of things should be. I don’t want to be like this but I love the movie and you have some personal issues with it which is fine not everyone likes the same stuff. Please stop bothering me.
Yeah I believe he’ll be related to Koba in some way, although many tell me Koba never had kids… To that I say just because we didn’t see any, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist..
Honestly I don't think he was able to have kids. I think I read somewhere most lab apes are sterilized or outright neutered to prevent aggression and unsupervised mating
@@MomoALTA wrong! That must be a different "tribe" of bonobo's because they normally mate to end any argument.. not even caring if its male, female, adult or youngster... Only males CAN be more agressive than chimps, though it rarely happens..
I feel like Proximus and Noa are distantly related, with Proximus having Koba’s genes mixed in with his lineage while Noa is a separate branch family line. Cause I assume Koba had a family, maybe off the side and not shown which then ended up joining with Caesar’s family line and forming a separate group which then leads to Proximus
Besides him wanting to be king and stuff, his plans were actually going to benefit the apes massively if he was able to pull it off. Human girl was the real villian. Imo
The only thing I'm afraid could ruin his plans was the apes repeating the mistakes of humans - but still, in the OG Caesar's era they fought with stones and sticks, yet still displayed some of our worst traits, so that isn't really connected with technology
I thought that at first, but bonobos and chimpanzees can interbreed so it is possible (although unlikely OOC) that overtime Caesar’s lineage bred with Bonobos and therefor his descendants got received more and more bonobo dna.
I watched this movies yesterday and I gotta say. If I was one of those apes I’d never trust a human. At the end of the day, they don’t have enough respect and empathy for them, they’d kill them all for human interest. And I was secretly wishing that Proximus would actually get those weapons cause the way Mae was acting ruthless is perfect example of human behaviour. Even their babies can be cruel
My theory is this Proxima could be the descendant of Caesar but in different branch he maybe Koba's main line Noa might be the Caesar's main line of descendant
Mae was the villian and her "don't you think we deserve another chance" after she killed who knows how many enslaved Apes in the bunker is proof that humanity doesn't learn from its mistakes
Proximus really reminds me of Caesar from Fallout New Vegas. He's right about a lot. There are divided tribes weakening the society as a whole. There are enemies out there posing as allies and conquering them will lead to greater strength and unification. He's wrong about all the nuances and desires of each group and only by generalizing them and removing their individuality can his decisions be justified. It's a very interesting take. Just like Fallout NV it's easy to call him a villain, but by prodding his motivations just a little his complexity becomes very clear. Just like NV he's actually a lot kinder in person and conversation than a lot of the troops are. He understands his motivations more than the troops, who just act and spout what they've heard without understanding the logic and philosophy
The thing so genuine about planet of the apes is that regardless of race and yes this is a real differential race and not just color but a whole different species is that the cycle never ends and keeps repeating all the time without never having a proper solution no matter how advanced it is.
Proximus reminds me of Napoleon from Animal farm more than anything. His love of humans makes him almost become one. They mirror that theme a lot in planet of the apes. But it would be cool to have an outright shaving of hair, wearing of clothes and so on so that he very nearly became one.
When ever Wildcat did the Easter eggs, Vanoss would always show much he isn't a gamer and was doing for the video because he wouldn't figure it out even after so much information.
Join the new Planet of the Apes discord! (Link is on about page).
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They need to stop making these movies.
there were more than one bonobo in the story: koba was just the first villian one. i'm not going to assume or spec that he's related to either caesar or koba. as we know already caesar had two sons( his eldest son learn to speak and maurice/rocket were the last two elders apart from cornilla the kings wife) there are other apes from "other camps" the redwoods was not the only place.." think about it(the last movie there was apes,chimps,bonobos captured from across the world or region)
@@knockout9446 why give me a reason why?
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Crazy part is, Bonobos are apparently more peaceful then Chimpanzees! For such a villain like Koba to be a Bonobos while Ceaser is a Chimp, goes to show how much he hated humans.
I was going to make this same comment
Only solidified just how much they traumatized him
It's cool to think about. Ceaser became more inclined to peace as a chimp, and Koba wanted to go to war as a bonobo. They both literally went against their nature.
This comment right here
Bonobos are brutal rape-savages.
The only thing that limits their sadism is their size.
There's also a direct connection between intelligence and the appearance of sadism as a trait in a species.
That's why chimps in particular and even dolphins are capable of understanding suffering and enjoying inflicting it on other creatures for entertainment.
Since ceaser was the one who started everything he is known for generations and he is a iconic beacon for the apes, Proximus taking the name could mean he's aiming to be the next iconic beacon just like how ceaser was
Correct!
Yes but not a very good beacon.
I heard he is hiding the book about Cesar from the other apes out of fear so he can remain King
@@ghxstTrap54I saw somewhere that he was using the teachings of Caesar but spinning them so he could gain control. So I wouldn’t be surprised if none of these new apes have any relation to Caesar besides the main character sharing his ideology
It’s blasphemy
Koba: Hates humans, destroyed their world
PC: “I wanna be like you oo”
Ironic
“ wanna walk like you
Talk like you, too
You'll see it's true”
Who would win?
he literally wants to become like cecaer clown ah
Pc:“I’m the king of the swingers oh”
noa is most likely the descendant of caesar
just because Noah is the good ape doesnt mean hes the descendant
@@Aga00007 he looks exactly like caesar while proximus doesnt
@@ohana1095noas actor confirmed he is not
@@yungyoucef7027he don’t know shit
@@Mystify0324he probably read the script.
Noa is literally identical to Caesar. Same birthmark too
What was the birthmark?
@@valdo2323A white cut-looking spot on the right chest
Not related according to the director
That's not how you use the word "literally".
@@croceyzx2433 because that will be spoilers?? Sometimes or most directors fooled their fans by denying to prevent spoilers, like c'mon Noah have the same features of Ceasar's
“Bend for your king” is WILD 💀
😂
It's only sus if you were thinking sus, you sussy baka
@jovedo27 only sussy bakas say sussy baka.
You sussy baka
@@kitten-whisperer right you are my fellow sussy baka 👍
we're back to 2020 gen z brainrot now
The world building for these series is just so damn good. Being there from the beginning with Ceasar to now is just so satisfying
Its so good. And to think this all started with just a man trying to save his father and taking a chimp in as his own. Imagine being in that position and knowing you gave birth to all the history that followed...crazy
I envy you, I only barely started
@@DuendeCaughtOnTape ngl seeing Dawn and War in theaters was crazy. Dawn gave me Shakespeare vibes for some reason. But go happy binging! I’m waiting to see Kingdom so I can have the theaters to myself
@@rari2943 the PTSD would be just horrific 💀
@@rari2943Butterfly Effect baby!
I love how these Apes take Roman titles after the first “Caesar”, really shows the structure they have developed.
Calm down it's nothing real
It's worth knowing the apes only took 300 years after gaining sentience to enter bronze age which is alarmingly fast compare to humanity IIRC.
Judging from how delicate Proximus' crown and ornament are, it's clear the apes had mastered bronze smithing and it's only a matter of time before they advance to iron age. It is implied that the apes could develop their technology even faster if they have more access to functioning human tech. They built civilization for scratch based on old stories from Caesar's time and trial and error on making sense of derelict human device.
@@korawitbuttramee618no way u are so right
@@korawitbuttramee618"if they have access to functioning human tech"
Humans had no access to anyone's functioning tech so we advanced on our own..
@@korawitbuttramee618thats why I love this franchise, it just makes sense
Monkey King Villains are my favorite type of Villain.
Fo shizzle. Apes are our cousins. So when one of them are smart, strong and cunning we enjoy it. At least that's my take on the matter.
This year we have 2: Skar King from Godzilla x Kong and now Proximus
@@thediaz07related not cousins don't know why people say there are cosins cause that's not what cosins are
so you liked joffrey in game of thrones? he was a king and a monkey, ape, great ape, human
@@thediaz07 Humans are apes. We aren’t just cousins
Koba is the definition of bravery and evil at the same time with fake and real loyalty 😭
UPDATE he’s more like a Proximus Koba than a Caesar.
Bravery definitely. I still remember Koba charging at a tank on horseback with only one gun while blasting and yelling. Koba was such a G😂😎
for me hatred and abused
@@Sweetie-rm8pf he went through a lot
Koba is such a cool and badass villain. I mean, who else that can go charged against a tank on a front line while leading the army like Aragorn?
@@Vynne96-jg7erfacts
They keep making the bonobos evil even tho bonobos are the chillest ape species
Oh no racism...🙄
A who about talking apes!?!....Really?
We don’t know how this movie will play out yet
@@kwarrior2895racism?
@@kwarrior2895You don’t make sense with this comment
Just because Proximus Ceasar is a bonobo, Doesn't necessarily mean he's related to Koba in any shape or form. But you can argue that Proximus is most likely following Koba's Legacy into hating & hunting down humans. That is a possibility.
How much you wanna bet? 😂
Which makes proximus caeaser a coward
@@jeromeashley9972 well to fair hunting is braver than hiding
@@illosovic but w everybody not built like that
@jeromeashley9972 huh? Idk what you mean but I'm not disagreeing with your initial statement
Can’t help but to notice proximus sounds like Optimus and the crown looks like a prime helm
That’s so corny how people keep comparing him to Koba because they’re both dark, that doesn’t transfer a personality or anything
But they do share some similarities but Proximus is like the modern-"Koba" 😅
And even if he isn't Koba's descendant, the evil among the apes continue through Proximus.
@@finlandguy427he is nothing like koba, he’s a different kind of villain more along the lines of General Thade
True, plus it's never said that Koba had a love interest. So Koba and Promixus Caesar simply cannot be related at all, no matter how close they may be in terms of personality or physical appearance.
I do hope from the bottom of my heart and soul that this is sarcasm
@@finlandguy427Besides being bonobos what do they have in common
Tbh if you’re team ape he’s not a villain he’s just morally grey. But if you’re team human he’s the bane of your existence
The series is designed to make you team ape since protagonist.
@@jason200912 well yes and no, proximus Caesar is the antagonist against the other ape but from a progression standpoint he’s the next step. The other ape wanted to maintain his small tribal lifestyle. He’s the copper age emperor that could’ve shot them 1000s of years into their civilization if he succeeded. But ofc he’s bad because of slaves and his distorted views of Caesar’s views
@@maxomega98 I didn't like Noah (Mae mostly) because he sent the apes back to the stone age. Even worse he might have splintered them all into weak tribes and reversed all of caeser's work creating a ape kingdom
@@jason200912 I agree, proxomis is an interesting character I find his motivations fascinating whereas Noah is just naive and blinded by emotions. Spiritually he’s ceasers successor but as of now he’s not gonna push them in the next direction without it being another 300-500 years
I can see a storyline where Proximus survives and has a more complex and ambiguous role in this situation, but I suppose this isn't happening
In my opinion koba was 10 times worse cause proximus at least cares for apes and wants them to succeed by having technological advances. He even said he is mortal he did care for himself a little but not as much as koba. Koba was actually who didn’t care for apes in fact he didn’t care for any of them all he cared was for his revenge and knew he could get all apes killed.
“BEND for you king” is crazy work😂
He doesn’t know more about humans than Caesar 😂
Exactly 😆
He did. He was the one who correctly described that Humans can't be trusted and will betray them.
@@FALL_OF_LEGEND doesn’t matter Caesar still knows infinitely more about them lol
@@murraymackay9409It's not true, Caesar had hope, but in reality humans would never live with apes, precisely because of a concept of superiority, we will always try to be the strongest because actually, for better or for worse, what man has done it wasn't from anyone else.
Right wtf is that dude talking about smh
JUST based on the given context of the trailers, this ape built ape civilization.
Took Caesar’s tribe from nomadic hunter-gatherers to an organized kingdom.
Clearly idk if this is the ape that did it, but if he’s maintaining it? He must have a pretty damn good idea of how monarchies and government and war strategy work, meaning he really actually might know the most about humans
But its all fiction 😂
I liked him and did not see him as a villain. The only bad feature of him was the use of chimp slavery, but he was able to put apes at the top of the animal hierarchy and I wanted to see him arm up
And to think Bonobos are peaceful 😆😆
Bonobos aren't peaceful. They're one of the most aggressive ape besides baboon. Speaking of baboon... I haven't seen one yet in the Planet of the Apes movies so far.
Bend for your king😃
Bend for your king🤨
Bend for your king💀
This my kingdom c-
I'd love a side story going over his growth. A young ambitious ape ready to change the world with new ideas as he builds his way to power.
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
😂😂😂 👏🏾 loved that guy
Hot take: proximus isn't the villain of the movie. He's just a prominent character.
The Villian is the human I'm ape World.
Mae is the villain, and no one can convince me otherwise
This is interesting, because while I don't consider Mae evil, she is the villain to me. Meanwhile Proximus has many traits one would consider "evil", but I wouldn't say he's the villain. In the end, as much as he was an a*shole with a big ego and tyrannical tendencies, he did have his vision of a world ruled by apes, using technology to make their lives easier. On the other hand, Mae just wants to help her fellow humans, but she seems to completely reject the idea that humans and apes could live together in peace. I can't help but feel she would like to wipe the apes out from existence so that humans can rebuild their civilization... and make the same mistakes all over again. She keeps lying to Noa, using his kind heart to do things she knows will likely result in his and his clan's demise. She's just as much an extremist in this as Proximus. The movie "wants" us to root for the apes, and I think it succeeds, but since that is the default, then Proximus is a minor, though cruel warlord with a vision of the world that differs from the protagonist's. And Mae is the villain.
Him and scar king must be friends 😅
koba will stand over this dude 😂
I believe Noa is a descendent of Caesar, since he asks a lot of questions about Caesar and learns more about his heritage. He even said together strong, just like Caesar who says apes together strong. He's also the same kind of ape as Caesar and he wants peace just like Caesar. Noa is also the new ape protagonist, along with the girl he rescues.
Edit: Noa actually didn't say together strong at all in the movie. It was Raka who said Remember, apes together strong as his last words before he gets swept down a strong fast moving river after Lightning cuts the rope
That's obvious since the only son to continue his blood line was Cornelius
He's not related to Caesar. Just saw the movie. He does carry on his ways after learning about it
Lightning didn't cut the rope... it was Sylva the gorilla
@@liame31 Nope. It was Lightning. We didn't see Proximus until Noa and Mae arrived to the ape kingdom.
@@fearfulclan2007 ur a dummy 😂 clearly haven't watched it. It was the gorilla that cut the rope with a knife. GOOGLE IT
reminds me of rocket
ME TOO !!
I doubt that Proximus knows more about humans than Ceasar. Ceasar grown a human house, he knew how to play chess and watched movies.
Proximus is about an order of magnitude smarter due to the virus continuing to mutate. He's read about human technology and history. Understands science and technological progression etc.
Bonobos being the hippies of the ape kingdom makes Koba and Proximus awesome lmao
What I thought was interesting is that many think Proximus is taking the words of Caesar and twisting them to benefit himself. But I think he’s mistakenly following the wrong Caesar. William H Macy’s character says “he has me read to him. Specifically Roman literature”. I think Proximus is following the words of Julius Caesar, who was assassinated because he sought ultimate power. Just like Proximus is
He really wasn't a villain he was more of an anti-hero
Crazy that this year we have 2 monkey villains from two vastly different movies
Dude they even look alike in a way
@@V_HubrisTexan Hell no. Proximus is a regular bonobo, Skar King is a bald ass ginger chimp with pulsating blue eyes. I know they’re two monkey king villains, but the similarities stop there. One’s an ambitious dictator, the other’s literally Satan.
Proximus is definitely a villain bro
Just saw the movie yesterday and yeah he is definitely a villain and a manipulative one at that. He is no friend to apes either.
I think Caesar might’ve been immortalized as the title for the ape king
I heard a lot of people saying how Noa might be a direct descendant of Caesar and as much as I want agree, we all need to remember that in Rise it was stated how Ceasar's mother had green eyes and apes more dominant had green eyes.
Take a close look at Proximus and Noa eye color.
I'm might be wrong, but what if Proximus is an actual descendant of Caesar and even crazier if Noa is a descendant, but distant?
Different species sadly
Great movie enjoy watching last night
This is a battle of Race, Dude just wanted the better future of his race and humans is battling to regain their race back
I think Noah is a Descendant of Caesar and Proximus is a Koba descendant. My guess is either sometime in the ten years the apes lived in the red woods Koba had some kind of offspring. Some people will counter that Maurice in a book connected to the films said Koba didn’t have kids. Unless…Koba survived the fall. 1. Apes are pretty durable and have been seen to survive falls from great heights, I mean look at Caesar after Koba shot him. 2. At the end of Dawn’s credits an ape breathing which as been confirmed to be Koba by the director. 3. The original play was that Koba was going to actually physically appear in WFTPOTA but considering how much Koba hated humans he would most definitely not even join up with the army. It made more sense for previous Koba supporters to think Koba dead and then join up with the army instead. Perhaps Koba had a female follower escape with him and just booked it to get away from other apes and humans. Then they would have the offspring who would eventually result in the emergence of Proximus generations later. Maybe where Koba hated everything to do with humanity Proximus sees them as some sort of fallen gods/angels and wants to learn as much about their history to better understand his own. I bet Koba wasn’t too keen to pass the story on how he betrayed the ape equivalent of Jesus or something.
Caesar is ape moses
I didn't like Noah because having a chimp hawk taming tribe is just kind of odd. Id rather see a united ape kingdom than a bunch of scattered tribes
@@jason200912 keep in mind this is just the first film in the new trilogy, just like Caesar I’m confident that Noah will grow into a powerful leader and unite the tribes.
@@Thegrrog man all that work from caeser's kingdom for nothing only for all the tribes to be fragmented and weak into a full circle back to square one. and i wonder how many apes died because of Mae's flooding that Noah had to save them from
@@jason200912 sometimes that stuff happens, what’s important is this movie isn’t trying to be 100% accurate to what your vision of things should be. I don’t want to be like this but I love the movie and you have some personal issues with it which is fine not everyone likes the same stuff. Please stop bothering me.
Proximity Caesar kind of looks like Sauron lol
Yeah I believe he’ll be related to Koba in some way, although many tell me Koba never had kids…
To that I say just because we didn’t see any, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist..
Honestly I don't think he was able to have kids. I think I read somewhere most lab apes are sterilized or outright neutered to prevent aggression and unsupervised mating
The fact that Bonobos are literally the most peaceful out of all apes is pretty funny
Actually new study found out bonbos are as aggressive as male chimpanzees
@@MomoALTA wrong! That must be a different "tribe" of bonobo's because they normally mate to end any argument.. not even caring if its male, female, adult or youngster... Only males CAN be more agressive than chimps, though it rarely happens..
"A fan of humans"
"You cannot trust a human, ever."
Yeah, more like a fan of human technology and other accomplishments. These are entirely different things 😂
The ape scientist should make Bigfoot… then the hilarity ensues
*WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY !!!*
🎉
but Noa looks more Caesar to me, his facial expression reminds me of young Caesar.
This proximus ceaser looks like his descendant of koba.
Fan of humans=no villain.
-said a human
I saw in a wiki that this dude was a descendant of Bad Ape. I'm not denying the possibility
If that's the case, Bad Ape sure had some interesting hidden genes that waited 300 years to show up in this huge, mean bonobo
I feel like Proximus and Noa are distantly related, with Proximus having Koba’s genes mixed in with his lineage while Noa is a separate branch family line. Cause I assume Koba had a family, maybe off the side and not shown which then ended up joining with Caesar’s family line and forming a separate group which then leads to Proximus
Different species.
Besides him wanting to be king and stuff, his plans were actually going to benefit the apes massively if he was able to pull it off. Human girl was the real villian. Imo
I second you.
The only thing I'm afraid could ruin his plans was the apes repeating the mistakes of humans - but still, in the OG Caesar's era they fought with stones and sticks, yet still displayed some of our worst traits, so that isn't really connected with technology
This GxK and Deadpool 3 might cause me to seize up
Pretty sure Proximus Caesar is a Bonobo so he literally can’t be a descendant of Caesar
I thought that at first, but bonobos and chimpanzees can interbreed so it is possible (although unlikely OOC) that overtime Caesar’s lineage bred with Bonobos and therefor his descendants got received more and more bonobo dna.
He was not a villain. Maybe strict. The gorilla was kinda a villain.
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!!🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Sorry bro, but Proximus is Latin, not greek
Noted
@@FilmShots I'm so exited about the new film
It literally means the same thing in both😂
Cornelius look like caesar, thanks i never have 15 likes and 10 comments🎉🎉🎉🎉😃😃😃
That isn’t cornelius, cornelius is dead since this movie is 300+ years after war for the planet of the apes. This is a new ape and his name is Noa
@@flowbaez5595is he related to Caesar?
@@cris8__171Noa isnt related to Caesar.
@@flowbaez5595it’s interesting tho, the cast list names him as Cornelius? Possibly a junior of Cornelius? Who tf knows
@@Designation_B-127Look just like him, you can’t tell me he not.
What happened to caesar's child ?
This takss place 300 years after war he's dead by now
Gonna be epic. I hope he carries the series on the way Matt Reeves did. Greatest trilogy of all time.
I will say proximus is really cool villain or antagonist in this movie ❤
His name is Actually Thade and it relates to the 1st planet of the apes with Mark Walberg where they talk about general Thades lineage...
Somehow koba has returned
Lol.
I see what you did
Haven't had something put me to sleep that quickly in a LONG time...gonna have to keep this one in mind for those tough nights😂
One of the best villain in today media.
Well if ya love hums so much, why don't you marry one? Ha ha!
Avatar ?
Bro is NOT caesar
Ngl this is by the far the most underrated franchise ever and lowkey might be better than most tbh
We need a series!!!! The movie was epic to me
You got me excited to see it fr
And who is that hero in that movie ?
Noa
SKAR KING!
Quickly, he knows everything about humans, but he thought we flew and we swam across oceans
I watched this movies yesterday and I gotta say. If I was one of those apes I’d never trust a human. At the end of the day, they don’t have enough respect and empathy for them, they’d kill them all for human interest. And I was secretly wishing that Proximus would actually get those weapons cause the way Mae was acting ruthless is perfect example of human behaviour. Even their babies can be cruel
Blud is not Caesar
My theory is this
Proxima could be the descendant of Caesar but in different branch he maybe Koba's main line
Noa might be the Caesar's main line of descendant
Koba had no children he was the only bonobo in Caesar’s colony
@@HTMN161 we simply never know
@@lordforages8319 yes we do what are you on about 😂😂
If they make proximus not an actual villain, but a hero that means well, like Miguel o Hara it would add more to the story
I really want to see that happen, but I doubt it will
Imagine if it had a line that said
You think you’re the king? I’m the king!! 🤣🤕ehhhh amazing
Mae was the villian and her "don't you think we deserve another chance" after she killed who knows how many enslaved Apes in the bunker is proof that humanity doesn't learn from its mistakes
Mae, look girl, I don't think we deserve another chance. Like, we did have a couple, and after a while it's always back to the same s*it
What a Wonderful Day
can he say the N word
Yes
Proximus really reminds me of Caesar from Fallout New Vegas. He's right about a lot. There are divided tribes weakening the society as a whole. There are enemies out there posing as allies and conquering them will lead to greater strength and unification. He's wrong about all the nuances and desires of each group and only by generalizing them and removing their individuality can his decisions be justified. It's a very interesting take. Just like Fallout NV it's easy to call him a villain, but by prodding his motivations just a little his complexity becomes very clear. Just like NV he's actually a lot kinder in person and conversation than a lot of the troops are. He understands his motivations more than the troops, who just act and spout what they've heard without understanding the logic and philosophy
“Bend for your king”
He been spending too much time with Zues
He got that pop smoke smile 😅
Beside the whole kidnapping other ape tribes for his goals... I was kinda rooting for Proximus
The thing so genuine about planet of the apes is that regardless of race and yes this is a real differential race and not just color but a whole different species is that the cycle never ends and keeps repeating all the time without never having a proper solution no matter how advanced it is.
He loves humans so much he said ,"Dammit, let's start a hierarchy! I'm King!" 👑
"WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!"
Proximus reminds me of Napoleon from Animal farm more than anything. His love of humans makes him almost become one. They mirror that theme a lot in planet of the apes. But it would be cool to have an outright shaving of hair, wearing of clothes and so on so that he very nearly became one.
Honestly this newest movie is great for people that don’t know the first three movies too well, as long as you know who Caesar is you’re caught up
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAAAAY🦍👑💪🔱🌊🗣️🔥
Nice pictures bit finally one of the most bringt movies I've ever seen.
“Bend for your king” is nasty work 💀😭
When ever Wildcat did the Easter eggs, Vanoss would always show much he isn't a gamer and was doing for the video because he wouldn't figure it out even after so much information.
Awesome set! 👍😎👌
Hello from the Philippines 🙏
What a wonderful day
-proximus caesar
Cant wait for this movie just a few more days
“Apes will learn I will learn… and I will conquer” 😤🔥
BEND FOR YOUR KING
He wasn’t the villain but he was an antagonist
I'm sooo excited, I can't wait to see it.😊
I would recommend this movie to anyone considering watching it. Trust me!