Why Bellingham NEEDS to Learn From The Downfall of Pogba
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Kick Off react to the end of Paul Pogba’s career after he recieved a 4 year ban and never fully lived up to his potential. Could the same happen to Jude Bellingham?
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What a nonsense title
I thought the same thing. I swear Kick off has never been the same
@keitholenyo4755 are we pretending that they didn't do these videos before
@@keitholenyo4755Title matches the show as average 😂
Herrera was a good player for United, relentless and never gave the opposition rest. Do not put him in the same bracket as Fellini.
This needs pinning. The Herrera disrespect is outrageous!
Fellaini was also important for united
he was miles better than Fellaini but he was still bang average. As a United fan I do often look around dismissively at other United fans as you all seem to think any player that charges around like a madman makes him a top class player. You did the same with Heinze and you do the same with Martinez. These players charge around with absolutely no nuance and just get cut open by smarter players. They have no composure which is why with Martinez we find oursevles getting slapped 7 nil at Anfield and 6 at City. The fans seem to think these players are 'hard' and even call that midget "the butcher" even though he'd get chinned by pretty much any other player on the pitch. We need to stop buying players like this, just garbage passion merchants.
Death, taxes and Brian getting a Newcastle reference in a kick off upload.
I’m 2 mins in, odds on joey comparing it to boxing
Al-an Shee-rah
It's the team he watched more than any other... Is it really that surprising he uses Newcastle as his reference points?
@@YG-qg1hs why does he call them Nuh-casssle though
Geordie accent @@highnoon7097
He said zlatan gave him a boost 😅 they arrived at the same time
I watched Pogba take apart Newcastle in 2017, he was the best player on the pitch. The following week barely got involved. He was so inconsistent at club level. But then, with France at a major competition, amazing.
International football is so slow compared to the prem. He was made for it. His worst games at Utd were marred with losing the ball in his own half from pressure and lazy passing. Those don't happen at the world cup cause teams don't press as a unit like that.
That's called a lack of system mate. After what pep, Arteta and Di Zerbi have done past few years you would think ppl would understand the importance of a system now. You can't be consistent I'm freestyle football or like ETH someone who changes tactics every game. Teams need a set system to thrive. Arteta is proving that now.
how is pogba amazing. You wanna see amazing go watch someone like pirlo ffs. People think players are good now because pogba had some street skills. never good enough for juventus,man u or France even tho France is the most overhyped team on the globe
had kante next to him at international level, a far better player than he was
@@stleonards1066yeah is that why kante got subbed off in the final at half time whilst pogba was man of the match playing alongside nzonzi😂😂😂
Alexander Pato was the one that always blows my mind - destroying teams with a body of a child should of been one of the best ST of his generation
Unfortunately, injuries derailed his career.
@@farakhhanifalso his lack of motivation and discipline off the pitch. Talented, I agree.
Talent is never enough in this game - Mentality is everything. Pogba, Pato etc they never had it.
typical brazilian player of the past 10-15 years. Talent is there but absolutely terrible attitude. Has that country produced a proper professional in recent years?
@@highnoon7097ridiculous comment thiago silva, fernandinho , lucas paqueta, marquihnos, ederson , allison etc
These clueless guys seem to have forgotten when Erik Ten Hag sent Sancho to get his mental health sorted out in the middle of the season...Sancho wasn't there for 3 to 4 months!!!
I’d be very curious to see the alternate universe version of Pogba at City instead of United.
easily top 10 cm if that happened
pogba needs a good team around him and an arm around his shoulder it seems he needs a lot of support and positive reinforcement he's just not a leader
@@pierzing.glint1sh76pogba is definitely a leader😂😂, literally every French player looks up to him even in the dressing room before the wc final
@@ayaanlatif2296 he cant perform without stars around him and without being helped or encouraged. Zlatan helped him alot because he's an excellent number 9 and a great motivator. Credit where its due Pogba was quite good that year and he was fantastic for juve.
But Just because he's a good player in a team of very good players doesn't mean he's a good leader. The france squad is very strong and has depth. They were very unlucky to lose in 2022.
Pogba downs tools when it's tough going (not in the sense of an individual game, but in the sense when the squad isnt great or the manager doesnt have a winning formula yet or if pogba himself cant see any chance of winning trophies. That's not leadership. Just coz u can give a good speech,,,yeah and what , easy to motivate urself when ur about to win the biggest prize in world football
what about when ur playing aston villa or damp cold saturday afternoon, wheres ur leadership then?
was never good enough for city and his attitude/ workrate were awful. He'd have got the kalvin phillips treatment off pep.
Joey to answer your point . United 2-0 down against city. Pogba was the single reason we won that game 3-2.
Alexis Sanchez was unreal that game too I actually thought Pogba best game was when Newcastle were 2-0 up with Rafa as manager and United came back
The fact that you have to go a meaningless game in 2018 to show Pogba's class shows that he has done nothing since. Btw, he gets overrated for that Fance WC win... he was the least important starter.
i actually think a good comparison with pogba is Ozil. both supremely talented players, but needed top players around them to really flourish.
Pathetic excuse of a title for the video
I know Bellingham nowhere near the talent of Pogba 👍🏻
Innit. Stupid title.
HUGE lesson. cut the click bait guys
13:02 only casuals forget balotelli assisted aguero’s league winner vs qpr
also won an FA cup that year, and a champions league in 2009/10 with inter, although he wasn’t yet a regular starter
I dunno man, this title seems kinda sus.
How?
@@Extreme2SwaggerHD bellingham learning from Pogba specifically. Sounds kinda racist. Maybe just me.
@@JD-hx7ydwhat lmao
21:24
the Pep’sss
the Klopp’sss
the Arteta’sss
the Pogba’sss
Does this drive anyone else insane? 😂
Ricardo did help Portugal win the Euros on 2016, but I take the point. Think his brother and being blackmailed would screw with any player.
The way this guy says "Bellinum" instead of Bellingham annoys me way more than it should smh.
Quaresma won the euro in 2016
The Pogba "downfall" (hard to call it a downfall when the writing was on the wall for so long) comes as no surprise to anyone that understands the importance of mentality at the top level of sports. Pogba has NEVER been interested in being the best and doing the work to get there, all he has ever cared about is his brand and clout from a very young age.
When Alex Ferguson gives up on you at 18, a man who would DIE on his sword to protect youth player's with the right mentality, then that tells you all you need to know. People really need to pick their idols better, as Pogba has always been a dickhead who was more concerned with his social media career than his footballing one, and its been blatantly obvious from day dot.
Good riddance to him. A poison to football and a fine example to young players of how NOT to manage your football career.
This nonsense about Ballotelli is BS. He won the trebele with Inter, League with City.
Honestly the most overrated player I've known. I didn't want him that summer we chased him for a record fee. I never understood the hype. Nonetheless he became a United player again and I got behind him like many. It was just never destined to work. But to see his career ending the way it is, is such a shame!
A lesson to any young talent in the game. Surround yourself with the right people, don't make stupid decisions. Don't be the next Paul Pogba.
Ben Arfa goal was against Bolton he did score a great goal against Everton but it was a long range goal
This kick off channel has just become pure nonsense, 2 Chelsea fans that probably know more about other sports as a panel, this ain’t it chief 🤣
I'm fully convinced if Pogba had waited for a Real Madrid he would be looked at right now as one of the best ever easily.
no chance
The ban will surely get reduced just based on previous cases of banning I beg the longest is like 9 months or so, so I can’t see why his is 4years tbh so I’d be surprised if it’s not reduced
In terms of coming back at a decent level I could see a team in France giving Pogba a chance, not PSG but someone like Monaco, Lyon or Marseille.
Talk about how good he was france but lets remember the midfielders he played with he had Kante behind that allowed Pogba to play the way he wants to same as having Pirlo behind him at Juventus. Rooney walked in to changing room saw him and Lingard dancing and walked back out 😂 shows rooney knew he wasnt elite
100% Kante was like 2 players work rate himself, special player.
Balotelli has won the champions league and the premier league, 3 italian league titles, the cheek to say what has he won 😂🤣
Pogba should never have returned back to Man UTD !!! If he stayed at juv he would have been the best in the world . Also four year ban 😳 if it was KDB it would have been a year ban .
Tbf, Quaresma was part of the Eto'o - Milito double winning side for inter, and he won the euros. Of all of those examples, he was the most accomplished. Sad that his mentality wasnt there until he was older
Big lesson that for Bellingham- don’t take PED’s
Great discussion lads. Nostalgia, empathy, humour & knowledge. Ignore the abuse in the comments. This is a great example of why this is the most nuanced & entertaining football TH-cam-focused podcast. I love James Richardson's Totally Podcast from the Athletic with Horncastle, Lauren and Honigstein etc but that one is arguably more audio focused.
True geordie really just said Bellingham puts Real Madrid on his back 8:00 - 8:15 🤦🏾♂️ (kroos modric Vinicius Rodrigo curtoius rudgier etc) no awareness
The only mistake pogba made was going to man united should have gone Real Madrid.
22:10 theres a clip of arteta in the dressing room using a tweet done by toney mocking arsenal the last time they played brentford. It worked.
Bellingham and Pogba are not the same...PP could only dream of lacing Jude's boots...Jude is in a league of his own and always has been from his development at Blues, further progress at Dortmund, and growth to world class star at Real...he's had question marks over him at every stage of his career and has pushed all of them aside with ease, answered them with performances on the pitch, not made a song and a dance on social media...a few decent seasons at Juve apart, what on earth has Pogba done at club level to warrant even being compared to Jude?
Bellingham is nothing like Pogba in terms of personality or the people he surrounds himself with.
Pogba had a World Cup and scored the final and has 4 seria a trophies in a row dominating the seria a , that's why Pogba downfall is much worse because he had superior start at juventes and French national team
Bellingham already learned everything he needed to know from Pogba and that was don't sign for Manchester United. Everything they're saying about Pogba could also be said for about five other United players over the last decade.
Balotelli won the treble with Inter and the Prem with Man Coty
“Bellinam” 👀😂
I feel like on any TG show you’re guaranteed to hear either Fury, McGregor or Utd get mentioned 😂
What are the parallels between the two!? central midfielders, and then…
I think it is more applicable to say. Rashford needs to learn from the downfall of Pogba. Before Rashford it was Pogba visibly strolling around the pitch with no effort
One last swansong with PSG? I think they would possibly take him and France is probably the only destination in Europe that makes sense
Pogba had the talent but not the mentality and thats what cost him. His inner circle never brought out the best in him or kept him focused or even improved him. Those he did surround himself with only had their interests in mind while trying to sell them to Pogba as a good thing for him. Hopefully he can revive and save whats left of his career.
You couldve put Jordan Veretout in that midfield with Matuidi and Kante, France still wouldve won that world cup with no trouble at all.
LOL what is this narrative with could he have chosen a different club etc. At that moment it was probably great for all side, good for Juve making profit, United getting a young star, and Pogba moving to a bigger stage. It was ultra hyped, Lukaku Ibra Pogba and Mourinho, so i dont see why that would have been the wrong choice? Sure you look at how things turned out now then yea but back then we were only a few years since we last won a title, we got a world class manager, it was a new start and Pogba was the face of that.
I don't understand where people like this panel and pundits get this audacity lmao. Is it all on Pogba for being told to play in a role that isn't his? From Jose playing him as a CDM to Ole sometimes putting him on the wing, people tend to forget how terribly run United has been in the last decade. How many world class CAMs can you name that's played at a high level alongside players on par with Mctominay and Fred? 😂😂
I think Neymar and pogba isn’t a fair comparison. Neymar was consistently top three in the world when he was at Barca. Then he went to psg and his first two seasons he got injured at crucial stages of the champions league. Then he brought his team to their first champions league final, narrowly losing to one of the best teams in the champions league of all time. At least statistically, that team won a sextuple. Neymar’s stats for psg were world class but were overshadowed by the fact that he never won the champions league which is the only meaningful trophy you can win at PSG. Neymar also never had the help for his national team like Pogba did. The player that has assisted Neymar the most for the national team is Oscar, who went to china before his career could ever come to its full potential.
It won't be 35. It includes time served and he'll appeal and it will probably be reduced to 2-3 years so he could be back in 18 months
I seen him at the Toon he was a passenger.
I’m only half way through but nobody has mentioned dele alli yet???
I think this is ridiculous, pogba can come back from this with still a tremendous amount of ability. In France or Spain or even Italy he could go on and further progress his career.
Balloteni assisted the famous aguero goal
There’s a reason Ferguson allowed Pogba to leave first time round, he knew his mentality was’t up to it.
He wanted to keep him, but also wanted to discipline him because of his mentality to shape him into a top professional. Same with Ravel Morrison. His agent wanted to make money so they moved on a free
Its two different mentalities. And i loved Pogba. High end talent.
Bellingham gets a brief mention and gets involved in the title of a 27 minute video 🤦🏻♂️ embarrassing
What does Bellingham have to do with PP? 😕
Let's be honest, some of our strikers didn't help Pogba at all.... Rashford esp.
Wasn't Pogba's fault United made him play as a double pivot next to Fred Mctominay or a washed up Matic
Why does nobody talk about whether he was earlier? In any other sport we would be questioning all of his achievements and performances.
Because he was tested frequently during those periods.
nah he achieved nothing noteworthy, no mmemorable performances
Queresma won against pogbas France in the euro finals, in France. Lol
So no more live streams just clips then?
It’s not only his Age and the reputation of being on enhancement drugs. For me the most important factor is Paul Pogba is injury prone
Video about Pogba turns into a slagging off Ten Hag session again, what a surprise
Can anyone mention Adriano without talking about PES
Completely different mentalities… Bellingham will be fine
Did these clowns wake up to just hype a player who used to be benched by McFred?
Kick off has fallen off bad💀
The most over rated player in epl history
You need to stay away from ball
So….Graeme souness was right all along?
Man achieved everything he could in football
He'll go galatasaray. That's the type of club that'll love him
Shocking title for a video, cmon Brian you’re better than this.
Wow Joey massively contradicted himself
mls bro
The way the Arsenal fan says Juve 😂😂😂 all these guys get any semi foreign name wrong
Some people just refuse to even try as someone with a different name it's just an everyday experience.
This show really hit the shitter didn't it?... Damn it's really fallen off...
Explain how
@@HP-mk3yb the ball knowledge has fallen off a cliff...it's Brian and yes men. The points are often incoherent. They seriously claimed Balotelli never achieved anything, I'm a United fan and I remember his assist oh and winning a treble in Italy
What scoring in the world cup final many would dream of that
Pogba was more talented than Bellingham 👍🏻
Pogba should never have left Juventus, he destroyed his career when he did that.
Bellingham should learn from Rashford. No?
Age is just a number, it's Marcus that could learn from Jude.
Adriano was haaland before lt was cool
When was Adriano not cool?
this title was classic clickbait unfortunately
Baloteli won prem and a ucl
I still think you lot are being very unfair to Pogba.. first he took the suppliment to help his recovery from injuries. Injuries sustained at Man Utd who regularly played him Martial and Rashford injured. No coincidence all of these players fell off a cliff. Also in comparison to Bellingham you have to understand that Pogba is very different. The reason he succeeded in Juventus is because Pogba makes all his team mates better. Juve never got to the UCL final after 2015. Pogba relies on his passing way more than Bellingham and actually makes the sum greater than the parts. Thats why Juve looked soo good. Hes actually a better player than Bellingham technically. Pogba is definitely on De Bruynes level in terms of ability. Dont forget hes a world cup winner. Man Utd burried Di Maria.. that says everything
To the Arsenal fan, How did you treat Ozil?🙊
Good
World Cup Winner n World cup final goal scorer i'll take that over what any England player has won in 30years 👏
cook
longer than 30 only 1 living player from that squad now.
What a ridiculous title. Other than skin colour and being midfielders please explain to me what pogba and bellingham have in common?
They are nothing alike. If you’re going to do daft titles like this Eden hazard would have made more sense.but for some no reason no one ever talks about the fact this guy cost Real Madrid 100 million and then said he couldn’t be arsed 😂 could you imagine if pogba said that?
Don't worry. Madrid fans ensure that the players stay grounded. Remember Bale 😂
Hazard too
What the hell has happened to this show? It's damn awful. Used to be brilliant. What a terrible title too.
Brian always loves a chance to disrespect Neymar when he has more goal contributions than Cristiano Ronaldo at his age (31) then when Ronaldo was 31 , with more chances,big chances created, dribbles, fouls won ,
Arsenal fan -“He hasn’t brought Brazil trophies” -how can he with a broken spine and broken ankles 😂
cry more
Cry more
This potato said Gazza underperformed at United.
Delli Alli
Bellingham is one of the most mature young players on the planet pogba was never mature
he is not don't let the media fool you
@@saif19845 so getting banned because of drugs isn’t immature then 🤨
sure he isn't mature and he made bad choices but had he made better choices in life he would have had a better career this can also happen to jude he needs to stay focused@@mark-134
@@mark-134 Immature?
not really..
@@mark-134he’s saying that Bellingham isn’t 😂
Neymar is 10 times the player of Pogba lol
If pogba was white and his name was Paul Parker they would be going on about what a player he was.
You made excuses for Pogba. He has been the usual steriotype French player, great talent but lazy and egotistical. He is at fault for his performances etc his social media team (yes pogba was massive online) would have filtered most of the hate but everyone in the lime light or who posts online will get hate.
Pogba is the type of individual you would work with and would vanish when work has to be done, sleep most of the day and look to party or play online. He is a cheat and a waster
Stop needlessly shoehorning jude into your video titles and thumbnails because its starting to look real desperate...
Pogba will go to PSG
😮