Something a bit different. I love this industry and this is something I'd been interested in for a long time as a big fan of the Kick Off in it's original conception. Fair play to Loz for being open to doing this and I think it's a fair appreciation and story for everyone involved.
Brilliant, fair open discussion wish every other channel in this space could be more like this and not have their own agendas and try to discredit other channels in this industry
As someone who’s spent 1000s of hours watching Mark, Brian (True Geordie) and Laurence, this was a brilliant podcast to hear. I think Laurence chose the right person to sit down and talk about it with. I hope Laurence and Brian can find a way back to each other, they were an unbeatable partnership when it comes to podcasting and streaming. Even if they don’t though, they’ve got an incredible back-catalogue of work that will stand the test of time, so thank you to both of them for giving us that over the years. ❤️
honestly Loz deseves better than Brian. Brian is genuinely a woman-hating idiot who doesn't want to change. Loz deserves a creative partner who is willing to grow with him, not one who is going to ruin his career with racism and misogyny.
People bashed Laurence when he was on the show, but Brian needed a foil. They’re just about as polar opposite as two guys can be while sharing interests, and that was the beauty of it.
This is what loz has needed for years, a mark that will undercut and talk over him respectfully to reign him in, this podcast is the most likeable hes been in years and years. Credit to loz for coming on and being as open but credit to mark for being blunt when needed, direct when needed, but at the same time, he clearly made loz comfortable
Laurence was 50% (minimum) of TG’s channel in my mind. The reason it worked so well is because they really bounced off each other, similar senses of humour but with different delivery. Brian the straight-talker and Laurence with the sharp wit, the comedic value was excellent. I’m not massively interested in watching either on their own tbh, but if they ever worked together again id be all over it
I appreciate that Loz was being EXTREMELY careful to make it clear that blame was shared, and that there were no real true bad guys in the situation, just a bad circumstance handled badly at a bad time by people who mostly meant well. I really think TG or one of his loyal fans would have to try VERY hard to find slight or offense in that discussion.
hehehe.... maybe he could get hugh wizzy on as fifty percent of the comments are about him. so get him on to ask what happened and if he is coming back and lets talk some more about ME.
It genuinely does hurt me these guys are no longer on the channel together. I wasn’t into TH-cam. Ever. Then I randomly watched a podcast with a massive Geordie bloke and his posh friend. It changed my perception of TH-cam forever and lead me to all sorts of creators I now love. I’m grateful for Loz and Brian. The first 100 podcasts or so were some of the best content I’ve seen. It helped a lot at the time, I was in the bin. I wish Loz well.
@@l...m9415it's crazy to think if they done that 1st podcast word for word now.... It would get cancelled.... Because Brian kept saying loz was bicurios 😂😂😂
Huge respect to TG and Loz. Loz acted very classy on this and my respect has increased even more for him. All good things come to an end. Hopefully one day they reunite, but if they don’t at least we have the videos to look back on with fond memories. The Kick Off was good but nothing beat their podcasts!
You know what didn’t like loz on the kick off but here he comes across a real genuine person and I hope him and his family go onto great things I wish him the best
Soz, he's always seemed fake to me and no difference here. It's probably why he got hammered so much as well - people perceived, rightly or wrongly, that he thinks very hard about what he says and does, so had a hard time believing he didn't just calculate that moving quickly on was (in his mind) the best chance of keeping everything from blowing up. Not that I think a throwaway wayward comment deserved a cancellation, it's not as if Brian was ever held up as some role model or paragon of normality. If a Blue Peter presenter can do lines off a turtle and still find work, a bit of Christian forgiveness towards TG wouldn't go amiss
I feel the same way to this. I really enjoy his solo videos. I like the way they're shot and the way he delivers the information... it's very unique and original within the football TH-cam space. But I hated the way he argued on the KickOff. Was very hypocritical at times. Enjoy this version of Loz for sure though.
I really like Laurence, met him once outside Anfield and took a selfie on a Playstation Vita. Genuinely comes off as a really nice person on and off camera and I can only wish him all the success.
one thing I’ve learnt from this video is Laurence definitely still has something to offer in this space, he’s so good at having conversations on screen
I don’t know what happened behind the scenes but the way Rory in particular was thanking true Geordie for changing his life and talking about how he was struggling before the kick off and was so quick to switch up or leave him to dry rubs me the wrong way.
But it must have been more than that how could you not comment on your other half everyone like me that's watched the pod since the first ten in their dingey studio knows that even taking into account the islamophobia it's got to be more cus Brian had always been very controversial from the start@@mclachlan82
Hugh leaving is what I think sparked the change in The Kick Off, the debates got worse, the animosity became borderline cringeworthy and some of the knowledge on display (Marvin, Buvey, Bhavss.) was honestly abhorrent.
Buvey is the worst character in the football media space, contrarian for no reason and never knows when to talk seriously and stop trolling. Just massively frustrating to watch
Buvey is something else,whoever still watches him must be deluded. He actually one of the biggest losers from the fallout as on his own he is pure boredom
Huge props to Loz for this, the context around the explanation and actually just "how do you react in a moment" stands true not just to live content, but to life in general and people having opinions based on time for consideration isn't appreciated enough.
It is lovely to see something so sensitive handled with respect, clear thought and highlighting that these challenges all have an emotional impact can it can be difficult to unwind these issues.
Would love to hear Rory’s side. Remember him thanking Brian for basically saving his life when he was at an ends financially. Personally feel he could have shown Brian more. So would be great to know what happened between them two
But as mentioned in this video. Brian never showed faith and offered him a contract. So if Brian is so big and so important, why are people even bothered about Rory leaving? Plus, Brian didn't help Rory just for charity reasons. Rory added value, and Brian earned off that value.
@@sharingiscaring1952 you’re not acknowledging my point. Less than a year prior Rory poured his heart out saying he owes Brian everything. He was paid very well as clearly stated. Would be interesting to see what happens with them two and that comment to be brought up. That’s all I’m saying.
@@liamjones5532I understand Rory leaving though, as stated he wasn’t under contract and had a young family to provide for. His livelihood was dependent on Brian’s behaviour and this wasn’t the first time Brian had a controversial moment. To be able to make his own show it put control of his financials in his own hands
There is no other side this is their jobs and livelihood. If you get offered higher wages and better position for another role you dont stay because you like your manager.
don't forget though.. that if he had been involved in the kick off.. that it would have done really really well.. not just really well.. really really well.. like unbeatable...
When two great presenters collide! Instead of being a Lawrence McKenna interview we ended up with a simultaneous two way interview, great content guys.
True Geordie content hasn't been the same without Loz, TG now is all about conspiracy videos without any push back or a devil's advocate POV. Loz was the intellect or voice of reason in the duo.
I know what you mean but Brian's by no means stupid either. He just looks a bit stupid. The Joe Rogan effect. Definitely comfortably above average intelligence.
He's above average in iq, he's hardly a genius though. They're likely on a similar level in fact, just Lawrence likes to ridicule people a bit more. He's simply more conniving than the others were. That is not a sign of high intelligence. That is a sign of a disturbed mindset towards other people.
I do, but what I meant was how it fits the context of this vid or the backstory.That's something I don't know. But as Im watching now, I'm starting to understand it.@@celtic69
@@joshpinho John Lennon after the Beatles went on a lot of talk show to spread alot of hate he had towards McCartney and then year later would say that he didn’t mean what he said and the hate was for himself but directed it at McCartney
I think Hugh leaving was the beginning of the downfall tbh. People tuned in for Hugh and other regulars and like Loz admitted I think not treating them with enough respect like a contract was the first mistake.
I listened to this video completely and I have seen Mark Goldbridge in a whole new light. His business mindset is why he is able to have such huge channels. The comments he made about certain “fan channels” going onto Sky etc. to be used for clips is very true. He forgot to mention certain fan channels who changed their ways so they can appease to these bigger corporations instead of being themselves. So sad.
Great discussion! One thing that really stood out to me was when Mark you talked about where football-related podcasts, videos and more are going. I agree with that and I'm tired of how many of the videos are something along the lines of "the most underrated 11" and I'm not personally interested in forced arguments created in the style of television, but real conversations between people without fake arguments and shouting
I don't think I've ever watched/listened to a podcast/interview before that was 90 minutes long and just flew by. That was incredible, and probably could have listened for another 90+minutes!
I've missed listening to Loz on a podcast. Just really appreciate the way he looks at things. The football space needs him and it's nice to see him making steps back into it.
Speaking from someone who doesn't watch, partake or even enjoy Football (and related content) I absolutely loved this pod and watched the whole thing intently. I love Laurence and was genuinely surprised to see his locks
I loved Brian and Laurence as a duo, and was so gutted when it all ended practically overnight. I’d literally pop a podcast on when I was overwhelmed, post-anxiety attack, or just looking for a mood boost. I’m happy - and thankful really - that we finally get an insight as to what happened. While we’re 100% not entitled to it, it’s nice to hear. It was honestly like an abrupt breakup without any closure😅 I really hope they’re both doing well; I owe them a lot of thanks and it would be amazing to thank them in person really.
Really enjoyed listening to this conversation and also to get proper actual insight into why the lads left the kick off. Also listening to loz is great because you can always learn something from him. Great stuff mark and great interview.
Wow this is crazy, I'm not into sports and never watched the Kick Off but used to really like watching Brian and Laurence on the True Geordie podcast and their vids together back in that era so it's really nice to see him pop up again! Looking forward to hearing what happened.
The speed of Rory, Adam and Buvey setting up the Club could not have been done in two months, thats a lot of months of planning, including studios, setups, social media overlays, business plan etc. They were just looking for the right time and that moment was perfect, setting them on a trajectory.
I think there are a lot of admin people in the London podcast space who have created studios for hire, everything else is more or less what they had already done.
they literally just did eveything the kick off did and changes the name and ditched Brian and loz..i have no sympathy for them for waht they did to brian!
@@balooc2 Grow up they were carrying the Kickoff for a longtime for a fraction of the profit and Brian was eventually going to sink his own ship whether it was the islam joke or not so they got out before he brought them down with him
I think Loz and Stephen tries were the first sort of people to bring this ‘office’ style quick quips comedy into this TH-cam space which I’ve always enjoyed so thank you for that!
I hate the cold world we live in. Anyone with a brain could see true geordie isn’t a bad guy and he has a good heart. I can relate a lot to him and I feel very bad for him.
The dream is Lawrence and Brian reunited podcast. Miss them two together. Watching Lawrence talking and his humour/personality without Brian next to him laughing or bouncing off him. Hope one of them makes the move to repair or start the process. Love them both.
Tbh the personal difference between true geordie and laurence is fine but i find it snakey that the other co host left and made the club a carbon copy of the kick off
@@thelegendthatischelswould get it too an extent if they weren’t close at all off camera but imo having a deal prior to that and not letting TG know and then leaving a few days after the controversy is just a bad look professionally and morally imo
Brilliant interview, no messing with the questions asked but in a classy non aggressive way, had a change of opinion on Loz after this, came across very well and respectful towards all involved
Marks a genuine genius… getting Laurence on to see how the crowd react, also putting him back into the fold to then go and hire him for that’s football…
I would really like seeing them together more but I think Loz wants to continue doing his own thing mostly. I hope you’re correct though because I think their dynamic would be great. Both are incredibly thoughtful in what they say and I think Loz’s willingness to play devil’s advocate would be great with Mark’s unfaltering belief of what football is and means to people.
Tbh, one of the best discussion from two of the best people in this format. Would love to see this lineup on a watch along. A United fanatic and a Liverpool fanatic, what can be better?
@@RT-zk7yrit matters a lot if the hosts of a podcast or TH-cam show is from Manchester or Liverpool if they are fans of the respective clubs? Are you joking?
@@Lfcsweden-n5m to people in England yes. To people like you from around the world probs not. The day the game went global in this country was the day it went downhill
Top top podcast. Been wanting to hear Loz's side to the Kick Off situation since it all happened and the conversation at the end about the state of the industry was actually reallly refreshing and insightful. Cheers Goldbridge 👏👏
That was quite possibly one of the best interviews/discussions I have ever had the pleasure of watching Gave me so much insight into something I cared about but didn’t know enough about. Much respect for the pair of you
This is a fascinating interview between two great minds in the footballing content space. I’d love to see both Mark Goldbridge interview more guests, and also Laurence get back on the horse of creating content. Much love to you both❤️
Thanks Mark and Laurence. Really enjoyed listening to your chat. I discovered the original iteration of the kick-off relatively late in the piece so was disappointed when it ended. Thanks for shedding some light on it Laurence and the care you show in telling your story.
A really engaging chat. Well done both of you. Super natural and kept my interest throughout. Now waiting to see how you both evolve the space and what’s born off the back of this interview
Let’s wait to see how long this comment lasts before he deletes it like the previous comment about him acting like he created TH-cam because it hurt his ego 😅
Really good hearing Laurence's perspective. There's no question him leaving has been a huge reason for the decline of the kick off. He's always come across as a well balanced and rational person, who clearly played a significant role both on the show and off camera. He and Brian complimented each other so well, which is why they'll hopefully end up working together again eventually. Clearly also the show has suffered because of the loss of the other three, given their chemistry and entertainment value. That said, while I like the dynamic of Rory, Buvey and Mckola, there's no question they turned their back on Geordie. To create a show that's so similar to the kick off was a turncoat move, given the platform he helped provide for them.
Honestly I’ve watched the kick off since it started and knew Mark but I’ve never watched any of his videos, and the only reason I watched this one was cuz it was an interview with Laurence. But I’m really glad I did watch this cuz i never knew how much Mark cared about the space, and how great he is. Thanks for speaking so well and being direct. I really do miss the kick off and I genuinely hope that the TH-cam football space does get to where it was heading to a few years ago because unfortunately it really is how mark says it is right now.
I can't lie it still bothers me how things panned out. The podcast worked because they were all genuine friends and to see all of them separated over a mistake. Yes, a messed up mistake, but still. It's just a sad turn of events. The kickoff isn't the same and the Club isn't really that special. Lawrence was my favorite and to see him affected the most is quite tragic
ive got to say that I was wrong about Laurence. he's come across really well here and he's shown some great character by not talking badly about the club and co. because he would have been justified in doing so. and I think you did a really good job in not putting words in Laurence's mouth but also asking questions in a transparent and personal way. great vid mark!
Jeez, goldbridge loves himself, the interview is about lawerence, let him talk. Seems more of a chance to plug himself because this video is sure to blow up
Very telling that when they do a bad thing "they go back to the well of good will" and when its empty "they do charity". Those were Laurences own words, so the charity work was purely to earn favour for slip ups
Saying "its not an arrogance thing" doesn't change the levels of arrogance in this from MG. "What do normal people get paid" and "I don't shop in Tesco.. I know my worth". Whether he is right or not... his opinion of himself made this quite painful to sit through at times.
Goldbridge acting like he's the first in "The Space" getting in with the clubs when Redmen and The Anfield Wrap have been interviewing Jurgen and the players for years 😂
That was brilliant. Very insightful and interesting. Mark Goldbridge was great asking the questions and pushing for the answers we all want to know. Laurence is great and an inspiration for me, I appreciated how he answered with honesty and integrity whilst being respectful. Super show.
The more ive watched this interview is the more i wish Mark and Loz started mark goldbridge saves football together 😂😂 bro they just bounce off each other
This channel will be a force in a year or two with content like this and cooking with goldbridge ! Refreshing content on a well thought out channel. fair play !
Bloody hell. Goldbridge basically interviewed himself. Never seen someone answer their own questions as much in an interview. Lawrence if you're reading this, please do an interview with someone else. I actually wouldn't mind knowing what happened.
This was really refreshing and honest, credit to you both. I think it's always been clear that Loz is an intelligent and thoughtful creator and director, especially shown in his Hendo doc. I hope more opportunities come his way where he's able to show off his talents. And hope to see more insightful interviews like this from you Mark. Don't let those around you in the industry dampen your ambitions because I believe you can achieve greater things than you already are
Not gunna lie, I used to find Lawrence quite cocky and grating, however, the last 18 months seem to have humbled him. Sometimes we all need that to grow - I certainly have had that experience in my own life where I was taken down a peg and it’s an important part of evolving into our best selves - blessings guys ☀️🌱❤️
Watching this video makes me realise Goldbridge exists in a parallel universe to me where he's more than a goon crying in front of a green screen. I honestly have never taken him seriously and never given him more than a second thought. Hearing him and Loz prattle on about how they've impacted the media space... it just boggles my mind.
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Something a bit different. I love this industry and this is something I'd been interested in for a long time as a big fan of the Kick Off in it's original conception. Fair play to Loz for being open to doing this and I think it's a fair appreciation and story for everyone involved.
Brilliant, fair open discussion wish every other channel in this space could be more like this and not have their own agendas and try to discredit other channels in this industry
TG next?
he was embarrased about that hair. an too right its atroucious
Top quality again Mark! Loz is a nice guy and I hope some day he and Brian can patch things up. You only get one life
It's really great Mark.. I enjoyed it alot
I actually like how blunt and non words mincing Goldbridge is in this, asking questions without frolocking around
You can see his detective qualities coming through
@@Pianosnail12 This aint b99 pal
hes quite irritating
TBF, it's the perfect approach with Loz and even Brian I think. Both of them like to be direct usually
Goldbridge is a 40 something year old man on TH-cam. Lmao get a grip you wolloper.
As someone who’s spent 1000s of hours watching Mark, Brian (True Geordie) and Laurence, this was a brilliant podcast to hear. I think Laurence chose the right person to sit down and talk about it with. I hope Laurence and Brian can find a way back to each other, they were an unbeatable partnership when it comes to podcasting and streaming. Even if they don’t though, they’ve got an incredible back-catalogue of work that will stand the test of time, so thank you to both of them for giving us that over the years. ❤️
It does feel quite sad that Brian and Lawrence don't have any kind of relationship anymore. I hope they're able to reconcile in some way
@@nikitapearson5509seen the state of Laurence the now tho 😂 guys bacically female
Sounds like a waste of life imo. 1000s of hours is crazy 😂😂
why does Rory not get a mention?He will now produce a separate video on his importance
honestly Loz deseves better than Brian. Brian is genuinely a woman-hating idiot who doesn't want to change. Loz deserves a creative partner who is willing to grow with him, not one who is going to ruin his career with racism and misogyny.
Fair play to Lawrence here, was very respectful & professional. Tackled this better than I thought it'd go.
He is full of it!!! A leopard never changes its spots!
@@matrix35oh shush, your a snowflake
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@@matrix35 Spot on mate.
He is the only one out the lot who left Brian with class and didnt kick him on the way out
People bashed Laurence when he was on the show, but Brian needed a foil. They’re just about as polar opposite as two guys can be while sharing interests, and that was the beauty of it.
Spot on. I stopped watching after Lawrence left. Just wasn’t the same anymore
i Hated Mckenna with a passion but he was good TV. Its always great to have a hateable character on the show
This is what loz has needed for years, a mark that will undercut and talk over him respectfully to reign him in, this podcast is the most likeable hes been in years and years. Credit to loz for coming on and being as open but credit to mark for being blunt when needed, direct when needed, but at the same time, he clearly made loz comfortable
Loz needs an undercut.
Laurence was 50% (minimum) of TG’s channel in my mind. The reason it worked so well is because they really bounced off each other, similar senses of humour but with different delivery. Brian the straight-talker and Laurence with the sharp wit, the comedic value was excellent.
I’m not massively interested in watching either on their own tbh, but if they ever worked together again id be all over it
Same well put
gervais and merchant of the youtube scene...
To me and a lot of others it was 'oh, geordie has hired a middle-class tw@ to sit with him, I guess he's made it now'
Not far off mate
For a lot of the rest of us he was the annoying middle-class w⚓ you have to endure on basically any podcast now.
Was sat scrolling on TH-cam looking for something during my lunch hour. Goldbridge comes in clutch👏🏻
Same here!
exactly the same
and thats why people are trapped in 9-5s
I had to look twice. Thought it was a joke. Haven't watched it yet, but I know it's going to be good 🎉
Lawrence is a fucking snake a throwaway comment ur friend makes in 2023 and u abandon him 🤣🤣🤣
WOW GOLDBRIDGE THE INTERVIEW WE HAVE ALL WANTED... DELIVERED BY THE GOAT
Goat 😭😭😭😭get a room
@@travel_fan2223 yet here you are 😢😢😢
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@@ETH-Fitness came up on my TH-cam actually I never searched for it . Enjoy listening to a guy who insults you if you dare have a different opinion
I appreciate that Loz was being EXTREMELY careful to make it clear that blame was shared, and that there were no real true bad guys in the situation, just a bad circumstance handled badly at a bad time by people who mostly meant well. I really think TG or one of his loyal fans would have to try VERY hard to find slight or offense in that discussion.
Why do you appreciate it, were you looking to blame someone.
@@o2xb This seems like a question a stupid person asks.
@@dcnole This seems like an answer a stupid person would give!
@@o2xb Take the L bro
@@bannedvideos3399 As long as I'm on the right path, I'll always be winning!
I'm glad I finally get to hear Mark interview himself on why the kick off ended
hehehe.... maybe he could get hugh wizzy on as fifty percent of the comments are about him. so get him on to ask what happened and if he is coming back and lets talk some more about ME.
My first time watching mark and it’s nice to see that he hasn’t changed
It genuinely does hurt me these guys are no longer on the channel together.
I wasn’t into TH-cam. Ever. Then I randomly watched a podcast with a massive Geordie bloke and his posh friend. It changed my perception of TH-cam forever and lead me to all sorts of creators I now love. I’m grateful for Loz and Brian. The first 100 podcasts or so were some of the best content I’ve seen. It helped a lot at the time, I was in the bin.
I wish Loz well.
Damn, same here. For me it was their undercover drug cop episode.
Deep sea diver episode for me
The guy is a pretentious little passive aggressive dork 😂
Watched the first podcast the day it came out. Their dynamic was special in the early days.
@@l...m9415it's crazy to think if they done that 1st podcast word for word now.... It would get cancelled.... Because Brian kept saying loz was bicurios 😂😂😂
This was a genuinely fascinating conversation. More of this long-form, serious Goldbridge please 🙏
Huge respect to TG and Loz. Loz acted very classy on this and my respect has increased even more for him. All good things come to an end. Hopefully one day they reunite, but if they don’t at least we have the videos to look back on with fond memories. The Kick Off was good but nothing beat their podcasts!
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Yeah huge respect to Loz he even made sure to say it’s still an active show with good numbers
You know what didn’t like loz on the kick off but here he comes across a real genuine person and I hope him and his family go onto great things I wish him the best
everyone on the kick off seemed particularly annoying at some point i think😂
Soz, he's always seemed fake to me and no difference here. It's probably why he got hammered so much as well - people perceived, rightly or wrongly, that he thinks very hard about what he says and does, so had a hard time believing he didn't just calculate that moving quickly on was (in his mind) the best chance of keeping everything from blowing up. Not that I think a throwaway wayward comment deserved a cancellation, it's not as if Brian was ever held up as some role model or paragon of normality. If a Blue Peter presenter can do lines off a turtle and still find work, a bit of Christian forgiveness towards TG wouldn't go amiss
I feel the same way to this. I really enjoy his solo videos. I like the way they're shot and the way he delivers the information... it's very unique and original within the football TH-cam space. But I hated the way he argued on the KickOff. Was very hypocritical at times. Enjoy this version of Loz for sure though.
@@no1raniuk854 exactly came across arrogantly when debating topics
Can’t stand him tbh. He thinks he knows everything 😂
I really like Laurence, met him once outside Anfield and took a selfie on a Playstation Vita. Genuinely comes off as a really nice person on and off camera and I can only wish him all the success.
On a PS vita, love that mate 😂 how come it was on a vita and not your phone?
@@RidPhanto Shockingly I didn't have a phone at the time. 🤣
@@jingerjosh22 ahaha gotta make do I guess 😂
Selfie on a PS vita hahaha you broke scouser
what an insecure little thing you are ahahah @@Good_Ebening_
one thing I’ve learnt from this video is Laurence definitely still has something to offer in this space, he’s so good at having conversations on screen
his personal channels have really good content, maybe not the largest viewership but just good stuff
Totally agree, you can see by the way he bounces questions back at Mark he’s a very natural interviewer
He’s in charge of the Filly & Chunkz show which brings in huge numbers of
@@lukepothecary5486 i was so shocked when i found that out
@@lukepothecary5486 had no idea, glad he's got something
I don’t know what happened behind the scenes but the way Rory in particular was thanking true Geordie for changing his life and talking about how he was struggling before the kick off and was so quick to switch up or leave him to dry rubs me the wrong way.
I think everyone knows what happened mate, TG made some comments which didn't land.
But it must have been more than that how could you not comment on your other half everyone like me that's watched the pod since the first ten in their dingey studio knows that even taking into account the islamophobia it's got to be more cus Brian had always been very controversial from the start@@mclachlan82
Rory was scummy tbf
Spot on
what do you expect from a rat like rory jennings?
Hugh leaving is what I think sparked the change in The Kick Off, the debates got worse, the animosity became borderline cringeworthy and some of the knowledge on display (Marvin, Buvey, Bhavss.) was honestly abhorrent.
Buvey is the worst character in the football media space, contrarian for no reason and never knows when to talk seriously and stop trolling. Just massively frustrating to watch
Buvey is something else,whoever still watches him must be deluded.
He actually one of the biggest losers from the fallout as on his own he is pure boredom
Fine but he loses most of us before we get to the point of discerning his bullshit@erosion271
@erosion271 the ball knowledge is shocking sometimes even when hes serious thats undeniable
Buvey sits there with a west country accent reppin a man city shirt, 🤡
Huge props to Loz for this, the context around the explanation and actually just "how do you react in a moment" stands true not just to live content, but to life in general and people having opinions based on time for consideration isn't appreciated enough.
It's great for Goldbridge to welcome on a guest and talk at them relentlessly.
"I went on SKY for a show and..."
"Oh I wouldn't do that show anymore"
Tedious. Yes mate you're top dog, we all know that..
It is lovely to see something so sensitive handled with respect, clear thought and highlighting that these challenges all have an emotional impact can it can be difficult to unwind these issues.
Best bit of content on TH-cam for a very long time .. the interview we all wanted ..
It great cus they didn’t dance around the big questions they deep dived in to it
Would love to hear Rory’s side. Remember him thanking Brian for basically saving his life when he was at an ends financially. Personally feel he could have shown Brian more. So would be great to know what happened between them two
But as mentioned in this video. Brian never showed faith and offered him a contract. So if Brian is so big and so important, why are people even bothered about Rory leaving? Plus, Brian didn't help Rory just for charity reasons. Rory added value, and Brian earned off that value.
@@sharingiscaring1952 you’re not acknowledging my point. Less than a year prior Rory poured his heart out saying he owes Brian everything. He was paid very well as clearly stated. Would be interesting to see what happens with them two and that comment to be brought up. That’s all I’m saying.
Rory is still doing the kick off just without brian
@@liamjones5532I understand Rory leaving though, as stated he wasn’t under contract and had a young family to provide for. His livelihood was dependent on Brian’s behaviour and this wasn’t the first time Brian had a controversial moment. To be able to make his own show it put control of his financials in his own hands
There is no other side this is their jobs and livelihood. If you get offered higher wages and better position for another role you dont stay because you like your manager.
What I took from this is Mark has been in this space for a long time and this really excites him.
He invented the space, the space was nothing without him
don't forget though.. that if he had been involved in the kick off.. that it would have done really really well.. not just really well.. really really well.. like unbeatable...
If you took a shot every time they said “the space”, you’d be dead.
I can't unhear it now
30shots in 5min 😅
When two great presenters collide! Instead of being a Lawrence McKenna interview we ended up with a simultaneous two way interview, great content guys.
In interview the interviewer asks questions and the guest answers, here guest never answered anything.
@@Ventis1HerOhe answered a lot did you watch any of this lol
What specifically did Ol Lawrence not answer? Maybe not the answer u wanted to hear to validate what u wanted. Sounds like a you problem. Do better
True Geordie content hasn't been the same without Loz, TG now is all about conspiracy videos without any push back or a devil's advocate POV. Loz was the intellect or voice of reason in the duo.
I know what you mean but Brian's by no means stupid either. He just looks a bit stupid. The Joe Rogan effect. Definitely comfortably above average intelligence.
Shame Laurence is such an unpleasant person
@@Little_monkey_fellahe is not
He's above average in iq, he's hardly a genius though. They're likely on a similar level in fact, just Lawrence likes to ridicule people a bit more. He's simply more conniving than the others were. That is not a sign of high intelligence. That is a sign of a disturbed mindset towards other people.
@@Pebble_Collector tbf joe rogan is also quite stupid
It all started when Hugh wizzy left.
Hugh was so good on there
agreed, TG and Wizzy were the main people
Yeah I noted that too. Didn’t he say something nasty towards Rory or Burvey? on one of the shows?
Why did hugh wizzy leave, was it after the bad comment that true geordie made or did he leave before because he didnt like the ‘snakes’ in the group?
The fraud father left because of a pay dispute. He wanted more and they didn't agree. It wasn't a bad split.
The first 100ish True Geordie podcast was peak TH-cam
Nah!! The first 150sh defo
Rule 101 of interviewing Mark: allow your guest to speak.
You’ve got a brilliant thing here but don’t let your ego ruin it.
Piers morgan is mark idol😂😂
It's a podcast not an interview
@@Batmanthe3rd either way, Laurence is the guest on Mark’s “podcast” so it still applies.
@@Batmanthe3rdah so he should interrupt him then should he
@@unclebensrice4702 that's not the point I was making WAS IT?
both Mark and Loz speak incredibly well, it is extremely easy to listen to and acknowledge what they have to say.
"i hope neither of us are lennon" what a line
why?
@@joshpinhodo you know what happened to Lennon?
I do, but what I meant was how it fits the context of this vid or the backstory.That's something I don't know. But as Im watching now, I'm starting to understand it.@@celtic69
@@joshpinho John Lennon after the Beatles went on a lot of talk show to spread alot of hate he had towards McCartney and then year later would say that he didn’t mean what he said and the hate was for himself but directed it at McCartney
@@sehfnrerhdhfbfbd28I would much prefer to be Lennon and George Harrison to McCartney. Both more talented and never liked Paul as a person
I’ve really missed how eloquent Laurence is and his insight with creativity and sense of humour. I really hope he’s doing well
Dude he puts videos up, check them out
Laurence is a solid, fair minded bloke. His Liverpool stuff is great. Really like the guy.
Miss hughwizzy. The chemistry between he and Rory really made it special for me.
Hughwizzy is a gem
The way he jabbed at Rory was perfect
When Hugh and Rory were the regulars that was the show at it's peak, in fact probably the peak of all football youtube at that point honestly.
I think Hugh leaving was the beginning of the downfall tbh. People tuned in for Hugh and other regulars and like Loz admitted I think not treating them with enough respect like a contract was the first mistake.
@@wana.me003 cringe
I listened to this video completely and I have seen Mark Goldbridge in a whole new light. His business mindset is why he is able to have such huge channels.
The comments he made about certain “fan channels” going onto Sky etc. to be used for clips is very true.
He forgot to mention certain fan channels who changed their ways so they can appease to these bigger corporations instead of being themselves. So sad.
Bring Loz onto the podcast regularly. He’s a good guy.
He should be a regular on That's Football imo. He has the knowledge and is very funny. His banter was my favorite thing about The kick off
May be a good guy but needs a stronger backbone
@@vividratsculpordwarf, What do you mean?
The Underlap
Best podcast I’ve listened to in years, Laurence is a fantastic addition to any form of media in the footballing landscape.
Great discussion! One thing that really stood out to me was when Mark you talked about where football-related podcasts, videos and more are going. I agree with that and I'm tired of how many of the videos are something along the lines of "the most underrated 11" and I'm not personally interested in forced arguments created in the style of television, but real conversations between people without fake arguments and shouting
We all know Laurence And TG work best together they need each other to thrive especially Brian
I don't think I've ever watched/listened to a podcast/interview before that was 90 minutes long and just flew by. That was incredible, and probably could have listened for another 90+minutes!
I've missed listening to Loz on a podcast. Just really appreciate the way he looks at things. The football space needs him and it's nice to see him making steps back into it.
Boring
Stop projecting. Do bettwr
space
he has a yt channel breaks down liverpool
@Mohilfc2 can't beat redmen tv.
Speaking from someone who doesn't watch, partake or even enjoy Football (and related content) I absolutely loved this pod and watched the whole thing intently. I love Laurence and was genuinely surprised to see his locks
I loved Brian and Laurence as a duo, and was so gutted when it all ended practically overnight. I’d literally pop a podcast on when I was overwhelmed, post-anxiety attack, or just looking for a mood boost. I’m happy - and thankful really - that we finally get an insight as to what happened. While we’re 100% not entitled to it, it’s nice to hear. It was honestly like an abrupt breakup without any closure😅 I really hope they’re both doing well; I owe them a lot of thanks and it would be amazing to thank them in person really.
We need more of this content mark. It’s great to hear both your insights to the YouTubing world. Respect to loz for all his honesty too. Great video
Laurence used to get alot of stick, but I think he comes across really well, and speaks about the whole situation so well
You would after that level of feedback
@@harryhairo7272too right. The man was humbled, and rightly so.
Really enjoyed listening to this conversation and also to get proper actual insight into why the lads left the kick off. Also listening to loz is great because you can always learn something from him. Great stuff mark and great interview.
Wow this is crazy, I'm not into sports and never watched the Kick Off but used to really like watching Brian and Laurence on the True Geordie podcast and their vids together back in that era so it's really nice to see him pop up again! Looking forward to hearing what happened.
This was brilliant. Glad to see Loz rebuilding. You both work really well together. Fingers crossed there is a future where you both work together!
“Stayed to the end” gang where you at?
The speed of Rory, Adam and Buvey setting up the Club could not have been done in two months, thats a lot of months of planning, including studios, setups, social media overlays, business plan etc. They were just looking for the right time and that moment was perfect, setting them on a trajectory.
I think there are a lot of admin people in the London podcast space who have created studios for hire, everything else is more or less what they had already done.
they literally just did eveything the kick off did and changes the name and ditched Brian and loz..i have no sympathy for them for waht they did to brian!
Think u need to check them facts, probably for the 1st time.
@@balooc2 Grow up they were carrying the Kickoff for a longtime for a fraction of the profit and Brian was eventually going to sink his own ship whether it was the islam joke or not so they got out before he brought them down with him
I think Loz and Stephen tries were the first sort of people to bring this ‘office’ style quick quips comedy into this TH-cam space which I’ve always enjoyed so thank you for that!
Loz is one of the most well spoken individuals, always really respectful
I hate the cold world we live in. Anyone with a brain could see true geordie isn’t a bad guy and he has a good heart. I can relate a lot to him and I feel very bad for him.
The dream is Lawrence and Brian reunited podcast. Miss them two together. Watching Lawrence talking and his humour/personality without Brian next to him laughing or bouncing off him. Hope one of them makes the move to repair or start the process. Love them both.
Tbh the personal difference between true geordie and laurence is fine but i find it snakey that the other co host left and made the club a carbon copy of the kick off
The game is the game, if he hadn't have made his comments they would never have been out in the position where their livelihood was at stake.
First I've heard of the club. Took a look. Pass.
Yeah The Club is awful. All of them are total a-holes.
@@thelegendthatischelswould get it too an extent if they weren’t close at all off camera but imo having a deal prior to that and not letting TG know and then leaving a few days after the controversy is just a bad look professionally and morally imo
You find it sneaky that the three rats acted like rats?
Brilliant interview, no messing with the questions asked but in a classy non aggressive way, had a change of opinion on Loz after this, came across very well and respectful towards all involved
I've always wanted to hear Laurence's take on the kick off situation. Appreciate him speaking so openly and honestly.
Interview hugh wizzy. Where is that dude btw his content was always class.
Have been asking this for awhile niw. I miss the Fraudfather
Marks a genuine genius… getting Laurence on to see how the crowd react, also putting him back into the fold to then go and hire him for that’s football…
You actually might be right, never thought about it like that. Even if not for thats football, maybe to do something else in the future
Steve 3374, Mostly truth you type.
@@sujatadasroy4269he already works for Chunks and Filly
I would really like seeing them together more but I think Loz wants to continue doing his own thing mostly. I hope you’re correct though because I think their dynamic would be great. Both are incredibly thoughtful in what they say and I think Loz’s willingness to play devil’s advocate would be great with Mark’s unfaltering belief of what football is and means to people.
Tbh, one of the best discussion from two of the best people in this format. Would love to see this lineup on a watch along. A United fanatic and a Liverpool fanatic, what can be better?
Yes and neither from Manchester and Liverpool. Pathetic.
That doesn’t matter, both teams are global and both teams have most of their revenues and supporters from abroad.
@@Lfcsweden-n5m to you it doesnt but to anyone in England it matters a lot
@@RT-zk7yrit matters a lot if the hosts of a podcast or TH-cam show is from Manchester or Liverpool if they are fans of the respective clubs? Are you joking?
@@Lfcsweden-n5m to people in England yes. To people like you from around the world probs not.
The day the game went global in this country was the day it went downhill
I've never been a big fan of Loz but massive respect for this podcast. The honesty between TH-camrs and streamers is refreshing.
Top top podcast.
Been wanting to hear Loz's side to the Kick Off situation since it all happened and the conversation at the end about the state of the industry was actually reallly refreshing and insightful. Cheers Goldbridge 👏👏
That was quite possibly one of the best interviews/discussions I have ever had the pleasure of watching
Gave me so much insight into something I cared about but didn’t know enough about.
Much respect for the pair of you
More of these podcasts pleaseeee
Mark has a very high opinion of himself
This is a fascinating interview between two great minds in the footballing content space. I’d love to see both Mark Goldbridge interview more guests, and also Laurence get back on the horse of creating content. Much love to you both❤️
Thanks Mark and Laurence. Really enjoyed listening to your chat. I discovered the original iteration of the kick-off relatively late in the piece so was disappointed when it ended. Thanks for shedding some light on it Laurence and the care you show in telling your story.
This podcast was amazing. Watched the full thing and it was a great watch.
A really engaging chat. Well done both of you. Super natural and kept my interest throughout. Now waiting to see how you both evolve the space and what’s born off the back of this interview
Goldbridge comes off so narcissistic in this 😂
Let’s wait to see how long this comment lasts before he deletes it like the previous comment about him acting like he created TH-cam because it hurt his ego 😅
Be careful iv been banned from the united stand you can’t disagree with him or your blocked 😂
@@sayrox7422 i notice that comment vanishing lol
And trust me I know, cuz I study the TH-cam space a lot.. you irrelevant peasants
Really good hearing Laurence's perspective. There's no question him leaving has been a huge reason for the decline of the kick off. He's always come across as a well balanced and rational person, who clearly played a significant role both on the show and off camera. He and Brian complimented each other so well, which is why they'll hopefully end up working together again eventually.
Clearly also the show has suffered because of the loss of the other three, given their chemistry and entertainment value. That said, while I like the dynamic of Rory, Buvey and Mckola, there's no question they turned their back on Geordie. To create a show that's so similar to the kick off was a turncoat move, given the platform he helped provide for them.
Honestly I’ve watched the kick off since it started and knew Mark but I’ve never watched any of his videos, and the only reason I watched this one was cuz it was an interview with Laurence. But I’m really glad I did watch this cuz i never knew how much Mark cared about the space, and how great he is. Thanks for speaking so well and being direct. I really do miss the kick off and I genuinely hope that the TH-cam football space does get to where it was heading to a few years ago because unfortunately it really is how mark says it is right now.
I can't lie it still bothers me how things panned out. The podcast worked because they were all genuine friends and to see all of them separated over a mistake. Yes, a messed up mistake, but still. It's just a sad turn of events. The kickoff isn't the same and the Club isn't really that special.
Lawrence was my favorite and to see him affected the most is quite tragic
The club is ironically missing that anchor which was Brian and Loz
@@jswats92 Indeed!
Humble urself mark
The problem with Laurence is that he's so afraid of offending anyone that he's no longer genuine.
Hahah, I have said plenty of stuff that might upset people. I also disagree with needlessly upsetting people who have a hard time already.
ive got to say that I was wrong about Laurence. he's come across really well here and he's shown some great character by not talking badly about the club and co. because he would have been justified in doing so. and I think you did a really good job in not putting words in Laurence's mouth but also asking questions in a transparent and personal way. great vid mark!
Loved True Geordie and Laurence growing up, found both of them really webt downhill in the last 5 years but enjoyed this
Jeez, goldbridge loves himself, the interview is about lawerence, let him talk. Seems more of a chance to plug himself because this video is sure to blow up
He's knows the 'space'. Wants to get £50k per ad
I honestly think Laurence could slot into any of the YT football podcasts and immediately make them better.
Agreed, I think he does editing or something for Chunks and Filly now so I’m sure he’s doing alright
He produces their podcast, doesn't have a camera on him but does talk at times during the podcasts.@@crookieee
Honestly can't stand him at all. The club is just lads talking about football. Lawrence is just a wet wipe
@@sirdrchefwangiii1841 this comment makes no sense
@sirdrchefwangiii1841 we found the person that is too stupid to understand proper football analysis
Mark has an ego the size of the moon
This was a very honest conversation, I would have loved it if Laurence was allowed to talk more. But this was much needed conversation. Thank you.
Really enjoyed loz, honesty and great personality. Hope he stays around football TH-cam.
Very telling that when they do a bad thing "they go back to the well of good will" and when its empty "they do charity". Those were Laurences own words, so the charity work was purely to earn favour for slip ups
Saying "its not an arrogance thing" doesn't change the levels of arrogance in this from MG. "What do normal people get paid" and "I don't shop in Tesco.. I know my worth". Whether he is right or not... his opinion of himself made this quite painful to sit through at times.
Goldbridge acting like he's the first in "The Space" getting in with the clubs when Redmen and The Anfield Wrap have been interviewing Jurgen and the players for years 😂
Really good job Mark, didn’t know you had this ability to interview. And credit to Loz for not holding back
That was brilliant. Very insightful and interesting. Mark Goldbridge was great asking the questions and pushing for the answers we all want to know. Laurence is great and an inspiration for me, I appreciated how he answered with honesty and integrity whilst being respectful. Super show.
Never heard the word space so much in my life
Brilliant long form content Mark, and big up loz, he's a good man
The more ive watched this interview is the more i wish Mark and Loz started mark goldbridge saves football together 😂😂 bro they just bounce off each other
Can't believe i sat 1.5hrs and watch it till the end. =D Misses the old The Kick Off.
This channel will be a force in a year or two with content like this and cooking with goldbridge ! Refreshing content on a well thought out channel. fair play !
Goldbridge likes the sounds of his own voice too much to conduct an interview. Fair play to Loz for actually managing to answer some questions.
Bloody hell. Goldbridge basically interviewed himself. Never seen someone answer their own questions as much in an interview.
Lawrence if you're reading this, please do an interview with someone else. I actually wouldn't mind knowing what happened.
these two are just genuinely such high quality individuals
This was really refreshing and honest, credit to you both. I think it's always been clear that Loz is an intelligent and thoughtful creator and director, especially shown in his Hendo doc. I hope more opportunities come his way where he's able to show off his talents. And hope to see more insightful interviews like this from you Mark. Don't let those around you in the industry dampen your ambitions because I believe you can achieve greater things than you already are
Not gunna lie, I used to find Lawrence quite cocky and grating, however, the last 18 months seem to have humbled him. Sometimes we all need that to grow - I certainly have had that experience in my own life where I was taken down a peg and it’s an important part of evolving into our best selves - blessings guys ☀️🌱❤️
Watching this video makes me realise Goldbridge exists in a parallel universe to me where he's more than a goon crying in front of a green screen. I honestly have never taken him seriously and never given him more than a second thought. Hearing him and Loz prattle on about how they've impacted the media space... it just boggles my mind.