Analyzing The History Channel's AWFUL Game - Battle For The Pacific
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Contents Of This Video
00:00 Intro
00:40 PS2/Wii Versions
01:21 IntoTheAM
02:25 AWFUL Console AND PC Versions
05:10 Terrible Graphics
07:08 Story
08:14 Very Bad Gameplay
13:45 Final Opinions & Outro - เกม
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The Orange Box is not a game. It's a compilation. Half-Life 2 came out in 2004.
I remember asking my parents to get me this game for Christmas the year it came out because the commercials insinuated that they were going to depict the battle of Iwo Jima, which I hadn’t seen done before at the time. I remember playing the game and trying my best to like it so I wouldn’t hurt my parents feelings but god damn it was so awful.
Cauldron sounds like the LJN of the 21st century
@@user-njyzcip bruh facts. You instantly gave me memories of listening to avgn spew the most horrific words about that company and it’s games xD
@@dismemberedlamb9104 ASSS! XD Things like those ones? XD
Lol
Luckily I only rented it (on PS2). I remember being so pumped for the Iwo Jima mission, only to be really disappointed to find out that it was yet another mission where you're running around alone. And then as a slap in the face they show a single squad with a flag run onto the beach at the end. Wahoo.
I remember getting a bootleg copy of this game, needless to say I went back to playing Medal of Honor Frontline
If you want the Pacific Theater version, check out "Medal Of Honor Rising Sun."
@@Nexus1-n9r I vividly remember rising sun having a whole lot of jank compared to frontlines
@@s0n4r89 but at least Rising Sun was playable unlike this cauldron of crap
@@Tbt19-110 ik just saying it's shit compared to frontlines
I played this when i was younger i thought it was pretty cool and played occasionally after my 360 broke
There's a few other things that I think are worth highlighting to show how awful this game is.
In the first mission you are tasked with using an AA gun to shoot down some Zeros. Both my friend and I tried and tried to complete this on every difficulty and could not shoot down a single Zero.
I looked up a guide and the guide stated that it was almost impossible but if you wait long enough the game just automatically completes the objective for you anyway.
Also, on the 2 missions that begin in landing crafts you can clearly see that the craft is already on the beach rather than approaching it. On the 2nd landing craft level you can clearly see a mountain on the island and it's not getting any closer.
Using real documentary footage as cutscenes was the reason as to why I love the Medal of Honor series. Props to Cauldron games for getting SOMETHING right, especially for a History Channel game.
Not only MoH but old COD used to do that too. Using footage from history.
Man I thought this game was a fever dream. I remember being obsessed with pacific theater games and playing this years ago.
This game is bad the guns don't work WAW is better becuase it has a better pacific campaign based on the island hopping campaign from making to pelelu to Okinowa to Shuri castle like one good thing very realistic and has a gritty atmosphere to it like in the later japanese missions the banzai charges get more frequent.
ayyy V2
Would you rather play this or World at War's campaign?
Also some things to clarify:
-The friendly NPC models are ripped from Call of Duty 3, they still have 29th Infantry badges (those blue and white yin yang things), which is a division that did not fight in the Pacific.
-Multiplayer only works with LAN (as seen in Oboe's video). It's because the servers were shut down when Cauldron were bought by Bohemia (ARMA devs).
And you just need Secret Service and the Civil War games to complete the Cauldron saga.
I'd say anyone and their grandma would rather play WAW than this game. But if you want, ask someone this. Would you rather play Vanguard or this game? Though I'd only stick to Vanguard just for shooting bad guys. There are Cod games with better stories, Infinite Warfare for example.
@OscarMike yeah I’ve never played WAW but this comment caught me off-guard cause I’ve heard only great things about that campaign.
WaW's campaign was literally one of the most epic, historically authentic and downright awesome WWII stories I've ever played. Meanwhile, this "game" isn't even worth playing for free, let alone being worthy of being compared to WaW.
WaW has one of the best WW2 campaigns next to brothers in arms hell's highway and medal of honor airborne.
Except they look way better in COD3, and at 10:05 you can see a 90th ID patch, also from COD3 and yet another division that did not fight in the pacific which also makes the uniform they are wearing incorrect
I've recently watched Oboe's video on this game. Safe to say he didn't have a great time.
We sure did, though.
Oboe makes games like these so funny tho
I can’t wait for you to get to History Channel’s Civil War: A Nation Divided. It was absolutely horrible.
No its not of the history Channel games the Civil War games are actually pretty good. They aren't going to win awards but they certainly are not horrible.
I actually really liked it as a kid it was one of the few fps games I had this was on ps2. It ran alot better then battle of the pacific and there's actually some missions I still rember like where you have to steal a hot air balloon. I'll be honest only reason I still think about it is because it's one of the few civil war games out there.
I only had The Civil War game from History Channel, but I remember it (I was young like 5 pr 7)
but I thought it was a decent game at the time. Nothing that was like going to win GOTY or anything but a decent shooter set in the Civil War.
not a lot games actually go back that far to that particular setting
@@greenlightstudio5302 I streamed both of them earlier this week. He's right, they're very very bad and I've already made a video ripping into them. It will go live next Friday.
@@greenlightstudio5302 one hunnid
It's possible that Cauldron kept getting hired because they were so cheap and I assume really short dev time, which I assume led to profits despite bad quality.
Typical history channel
Basically what led to the game crash of the 80's.
Fun fact: This is one of the rarest Steam games that have ever existed, because of a probable license expiration of the History Channel license, it got delisted between 2010 and 2011.
Until today, only a few users have a steam copy in their libraries and there are no CD KEYS or Steam Gifts of that game, and if they existed, they would probably cost more than 5000 USD.
Not everything rare is worth a lot of money. But hey maybe someone would pay that much.
Kind of ironic considering the purpose of steam....
Well it's crap so who cares.
I have a ps2 copy….
@@anonymousanonymity2815 I'm talking about Steam copies.
I hope you check out the Civil War shooters, Civil War: A Nation Divided and Civil War: Secret Missions.
The first one was frustrating due to the enemies hit scanning/sniping you constantly, but the sequel was thankfully a better game. They're not the best games, but the Civil War setting and the guns you get to use(like the musket)makes them rather unique.
Secret missions was certainly a good game
They are some of the best Civil War FPS games
Thanks for that suggestion. I had Secret Missions in my own mind, but forgot about it.
I loved Secret Missions, the historical weapons were cool and the missions weren't super thrash. However I cannot stress enough how much I hated that gunboat mission mid game that gave you no sights to aim with, that was pure torture to get through
This game will forever stick in my mind as the first game I ever beat on hard difficulty. and after beating the last level. it didn’t even give me the achievement. It was 8 years ago this month.
To be honest, is one of those games that you casually see as a kid and say "Oh look at that, looks damn cool!" but is just a scam.
I will say this though, I do appreciate that they portrayed some of the lesser known battles of the Pacific Theater.
Iwo Jima?
Grenades that spaghettify people is the kind of totally real secret weapons from ww2 that you would see on History channel
The History Channel would've been more incentivized to hire a studio to make a decent game if said game had been about ancient aliens and occult Nazis.
O you mean sniper elite.
Shame really. I loved that History Channel civil war game they made back in the day. Especially "Secret Missions".
They are really fun when you take them as they are.
@@piergiorgiocaroli9201 It's a fine Bargain Bin kind of game.
Not sure if it was made by Cauldren, but I own a copy of a History Channel Civil War game for 360. Got it for free from someone a while back. Never really played it much as it was kind of frustrating from what I remember.
Both the Civil War games are made by Cauldron. Play them on easy, so they are not frustrating. There is fun to be had in those games, if you are a history buff.
Jarek "the only way to kill enemies is to throw grenades at them, which then they spaghettify into orbit"
Me, is that really a bad thing if I'm getting a laugh out of that? Ragdoll physics will always be funny.
Edit: also, am I mistaken or does the Arisaka sound like a Shotgun when it gets fired?
I tried to force myself to think this and the civil war games were good because I spent my allowance on it 😂
Hey Jarek, thank you for doing this game review regarding battle for the pacific. Here are a few things I got to say about it: 1) this game came out a year before call of duty: world at war in 2008 and if you compare and contrast between them, WaW is better than BftP. 2) there are 10 levels spread out the whole game regarding the pacific (basically WWII in the Pacific): 1. Battle Wake Island - dec. 8-23, 1941, 2) battle of Bataan (Bataan is a region in the Philippines) - Jan. 7 - April 9, 1942, 3 and 4) battle of Guadalcanal- aug. 7, 1942 - feb. 9, 1943, 5 and 6) battle of Leyte (region in the Philippines) - oct. 17 - dec. 26, 1944, 7) battle of Luzon (region in the Philippines) - Jan. 9 - aug. 15, 1945. And 8-10) battle of Iwo Jima - feb. 19 - march 26, 1945. Now you check these battles out in Wikipedia, if you want more explanation about them, I’ll highly recommend you’ll check out kings and generals’ the pacific war 1941-1945 which they’ll give you week-by-week timeline regarding battles in the pacific which are informative and have interesting map animations to look at. Also, kings and generals’ Russo-Japanese war, sihang warehouse 1937, khalkhin gol 1939, battle of Taronto 1940 (Taronto is in Italy, not Toronto in Canada, lol), and battle of Hong Kong 1941. Again, i highly recommend you’ll check these videos out if you want context and explanation about them, which is better than this game. And 3) say what you will regarding this game, which I won’t disagree with you about them. This game might not come out as being the best game ever, but at least it’s passable and not frustrating to play (except distance where if you don’t follow them, you’ll fail instantly) by one difference: there are no bullet sponged bosses to fight against and no bugged out sections which you can’t progressed. Yeah, compare that to soldier of fortune: payback, BftP is the preferable option. If you want to have true wwii pacific experience, play call of duty: world at war instead. And thus, that’s all have to say about it. Thanks for reading and and again, thank you for covering this game.
Played this while I was a Marine Corps obsessed child who had just read all the books I could on John Basilone so I did "love" this game. I still remember it not actually being great but it sure did fall into that special interest at the time. Needless to say CoD WaW blew my fucking mind on Xbox after I played that on PS2 aswell.
*imagine thinking a history channel game would involve motion blur*
Anyone know how to get this to work on PC? I tried compat settings on Windows 10 and I even tried on a Windows XP VM but neither work. The game just instantly crashes.
I have to admit, I quite enjoyed both Civil War games, considering theme that's rarely used, especially in FPS (last one that I remember is Gods & Generals, based off the movie..now that would be a video for Jarek lol), using weapons rarely in games, reload and all. Is it low budget and made probably in a few months..sure but I for one enjoyed them for a guilty pleasure fps with a rare theme.
Gods and generals is one of the worst games of all time, but like good luck getting it running nowadays unless you have an old windows 98 legacy PC. Which I do. And man what a stinker. The single shot muskets with no reserve ammo.
Can’t you also use riva turner to lock your frames?
I’ll probably sound stupid but what is the intro sound you at 0:22.
I KNOW IT, but can’t remember it, so it’s really bugging me
What's that art on your Monitor? I would love to see some of the artists other works!
Video info. It's art I commissioned a couple years ago.
looks like a free to play game you'd find on your school laptop when your teacher says that you have some free time in class.
One year after this "game" CoD World at War released, and is arguably the best fps set in the Pacific Theater
My brother had this game. I remember him saying it was bad and never playing it again. And for years no matter were we moved, when we did spring cleaning, or one of us swearing we threw it out this game was always there. We'd always find it somewhere. And a couple months ago I found the game in a plastic bin with other random stuff.
A historical game made by the collaboration between a professional historian and a really competent game development studio would be a dream come true.
Infinity-Ward would have been a better choice for a WW2 themed shooter for the History Channel, but instead they partnered with the Military Channel for CoD 2. Which in the long run wasn't a bad thing, because if they did do a WW2 themed shooter for the History Channel, it would be conflicting with CoD, which doesn't matter the slightest because these games were already conflicting with CoD enough.
I remember getting this in the bargain bin…. I always thought it was weird that every mission only had like 3 npcs with you it felt empty
I'm surprised there are no aliens and UFO
Fun fact you can actually kill them with uncapped fps, you have you find their hitbox away from thier bodies, i saw this at one polish TH-camr reviewing this game, so ones you find that hitbox your crosshair change red and then you can kill them, it makes the game really hard but it makes up a really ridiculous speedrun category if someone even care enough to speedrun it
I played this so much on myndads ps2 when i was like 8
This was simultaneously a nostalgia trip but also a bit of a reality check
Dumb question: I'm newer to newer PC Gaming, and what are some good Torrent sites and all that? I'd buy the game if I could, but some are impossible to find.
I mean he listed one of them already, myabandonware.
@@brawler5760 sorry, subtitles didn't pick it up...
... And I have a hard time hearing
But thanks anyways
@@brawler5760 plus I'm new to torrents. I used them back when you could only get MP3 / MP4.
IDK how all this "Seeders" and crap works. Like do I need an app like Bit torrent and then download? (similarly to Bluestacks). Or does it just download a file?
Heck, IDEK how to use mods....
And no, Google isn't helpful
Do you have the plan to review the ps2/wii version as well? I'm interested how these two versions is much better than the main versions.
Have you reviewed the Vietcong and Vietcong 2? I wanna know your opinion about those two.
Are you going to review the PS2/Wii ports of the game as well? If so, I think the PS2 ports of the civil war games are also different than the PC/360 versions, so they might be "worth" checking out.
I admit, I have a small soft spot for Cauldron because of those goofy as heck Cabela's Dangerous Hunts games they made. They are so weird as game concepts. FPS where the enemies who attack you and you shoot are animals, instead of people with guns.
Plus that made that Secret Service game I actually thought was decent.
The light gun one was kinda fun.
0:13 saying they make documentaries is a *bit* of a stretch
One year my entire Christmas was Medal of Honor Rising Sun.
This is absolutely a game where when a kid wanted Call of Duty but the parents didn’t want them exposed to violent games like that so they bought them this instead because it’s from the History Channel so it’ll be educational and little Billy will learn something. Or Grandma heard their grandkid wanted Call of Duty World at War and grabbed the first game they saw that was WWII.
What was that reload on the Thompson!
Jarek: This looks like early 2000's cgi
Terminator 2: Am I a joke to you?
One thing to mention. There were actually two batches of the game. One run ,,better" other one was recalled.
Overpowered NPC's
Linear story
No sprinting
Limited weapon selection
ADS just zooms in awkwardly
Are we 100% sure this isn't fallout 3?
Oooh just in time while i get ready to go to work thank you jerek my dude
Funnily enough the developer of the Wii and PS2 version (Fun Labs) mainly had a track record of churning out Cabela's games.
And they made that Nerf Legends thing recently that crashed and burned hard.
I really don't know how they allowed those games to release.
In some missions they would give you barely any ammo or a boring gun, so I would grab the first type 100 I could. I don't think I ever really used the Springfield past the first kill lol
I was enjoying this video, but then I realized you put the soundtrack to an AMAZING shooter over this, so you earned my sub!
You should cover the Zeno Clash Series! It is not a traditional FPS but it is very interesting an unique as an FPS brawler.
The voice acting has a budget of shoestring
At least "Secret Service" had both Nolan North and Steve Blum in it.
Rented this out for a week at Video Ezy, I believe I returned it the following day.
Fun fact. I don't remember much about this game because when I bought it from game stop it was so badly damaged that it took nearly one hour for it to just start.
Every cutscene would last whole minutes as well.
imagine if Jarek did a video on unmodded Bethesda games. i can only imagine the rage that would happen.
Load last checkpoint
"Are you sure? You'll lose your save progress"
... FUCKING YES, IM DEAD! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO. TREAT THIS MENU AS MY AFTERLIFE!
i remember my bro getting this game as a kid, he and i were a huge ww2 junkie earlier in our lives and we happened to get this game around the same time the cod WAW zombie dlcs were fresh out the market. needless to say we played WAW so much more often
btw Cauldron is not acquired but they're being transferred to one company called Bohemia Interactive
Why are there no aliens in the game?!
Those soldiers are wearing the insignia for the 29th Infantry Division which landed on Normandy in Europe, not the Pacific. So they didn't even get the history part right.
Yeah, and the Japanese Type 100 SMG actually had a curved magazine, not a straight one as this game portrayed it as having.
Sad part is, the enviromental graphics are fairly good for 2007
That is one of the slowest shooting Thompson’s I think I’ve ever seen in a game. Good lord.
God I loved this game as a kid on PS2 before I was able to realize games can be bad, I literally asked for it for Christmas
I actually remember this game, I remember it very very well, it is in fact one of those WW2 shooters that I remember from my childhood... I won't say fondly but definitely with that rosy red childhood filter. And I remember it that way for one single reason: my PC version of the game had a very unique graphical glitch. The entire game was white. The models were still there, just every texture in the game was white, so it was like playing SuperHot but if the enemies were white and no slow motion.
I remember it as my first experience with an utter shit game that I still played anyways because I didn't know any better.
That's why I remembered this differently from the gameplay I normally see...I haf the ps2 version. Not a great game either way, but the fact that the ps2 version is significantly better is just...wow.
Hey Jarek, great video as always. Curious, would you ever review mobile FPS games? Thanks
He reviewed Dead Effect. Granted it was the PC Port but still 🤷🏻♂️
@@weirdeurasianboy8091 He felt obligated to do that because Dead Effect 2 had a VR version.
I thought your were Oboeshoes for a second and was like "Didn't already do this game already?"
I completely forgot Bioshock came out in 2007. Now I feel old lol. What a game that was
I remember the times seeing no good games at Blockbuster or Rogers Video (Canada) but this one was always on the shelf. Never touched it because I had a horrible feeling it was terrible. Good thing I was right!
This is like if Call of Duty World at War was on crack for 5 years, that's about the only way you could describe this mess of a game
They just recycled models from other WW2 games. Very few weapons or models are accurate to the Pacific theater…
I didn’t know the history channel made video games! They are also gonna make a video game history documentary!
Stormtroopers hit more shots than the enemy ai in this game
I remembered this when my PS2 was still with me. Borrowed from a friend, then gave him back and asked him to get COD next time.
I love this game so much, played through it with my dad as a kid constantly
I played the wii version of the game. It reminded me of the old MoH games due to you bring alone all the time. It got me confused because the cover art implied me having alot of team mates.
I remember I got it on the PS3 and in the first mission I got stuck in the trench then turned it off and never played it again.
I will say that I, at one point, borrowed this from a friend of mine and beat the entire single player campaign on both Easy and Hard. I still like it, mostly due to having take place in other islands in the Pacific Theater in World War 2.
But other than that, it wasn't a good experience.
I've always been huge into WW2 shooters so I had to get this one back in the day. And boy, I remember it being pretty "meh" but no, it was worse than that lol. Great video as always Jarek!
Is this game the same as soldier of fortune payback or is soldier of fortune payback the same as this game? the fact is that both games share certain details such as the shells, some sounds, the objective marks, the death screen. only i noticed this?
This game absolutely sucked. The worst thing about it was that you were forced to stay right next to your squad leader at all times, otherwise you would automatically fail the mission. If you want a good WW2 Pacific Theater game, just play Call Of Duty World At War or Medal Of Honor Rising Sun.
You should try out a game called "The Stalin Subway". It takes place in 1952 in Moscow in the Soviet Union. The game focuses on a fictional internal plot against Stalin and the Soviet government, involving blowing up a nuke.
This is one of the only games I ever returned...
fuck yes on the ad ! finally didn’t have to hold down the fast forward button during someone’s video !! definitely making some purchases, and hilarious analysis ! 😃😃😃
I find it funny how I think WaW did a much better job then an actual "history" channel game that is all about "history".
I remember watching a video on this game from a TH-camr that you people might have heard of that plays cod videos with a white background and only shows his hands and plays games. Mostly cod but other obscure games. I didn't even know this game existed until I watched that video. Didn't even know this game was made by the people the last soldier of fortune game. That's just crazy that the last gen version has aim down sight while the next gen version doesn't.
I had this game as a kid and had my dad take me back to gamestop and i traded it for medal of honnor, european assault. Good trade. I was 7.
the way it aims the Thompson... are they trying to fire at 1 kilometere?
I absolutely love the TimeSplitters: Future Perfect theme song playing in the background
9:52 I don’t know why I find that so funny where he dies for no reason 😂😂
Oh boy here we go.
This really is a prime example of a game that is... a game. Like, a technically functional game that ticks off the boxes on whichever bog-standard design template it's using. But a game which then fails to actually be FUN or give anyone a reason to WANT to play it. If your game doesn't have SOMETHING that sets it apart (especially if it's such a generic game, like WWII shooters were around this time period), whether that's a clever new mechanic, a unique or underused setting, even just an interesting art style, nobody's going to care.
Music at the start is from one of the timesplitters games
Main theme from TSFP
@@_M4X15 brings back so many memories that game have it on the series x now :D
Loving the timesplitters; future perfect theme in the background!
The Civil War ones were not good but it was quite refreshing to experience that. It's a setting quite rare in gaming, especially in FPS.
"Darkest Of Days" was another game that featured battles and weapons from the Civil War, although that one was basically a time-traveling Science Fiction FPS rather than a realistic historical FPS.
the graphic still stands out to this day ! I remember playing this game damn what a good memory