Why Do I Need A Reverb Pedal When My Amp Already Has Reverb? - That Pedal Show

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  • We demonstrate how to use fantastic reverb textures in your guitar tone
    Life too short for long TH-cam videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
    Welcome to the show! In this episode we’re talking about reverb. It is perhaps the most ubiquitously available effect for electric guitar, given that it comes included in a great many guitar amplifiers. But therein lies the ‘problem’ Your amp has reverb, so why would you use a reverb pedal as well? In fact why use reverb at all?!
    The most obvious answer - and the one we discuss in the video - is that not all reverb is the same. Far from it! With that in mind we explore some of the many and varied reverb types that will hopefully inspire you to give it a go. Come on, let’s get into some space!
    Enjoy the video…
    Pedals & stuff in this episode…
    • TheGigRig Three2One
    www.thegigrig.com/three2one
    • Sonic Research ST-200 Turbo Tuner
    Australia: bit.ly/2mR1s8c
    • Lauren Audio Mustang
    www.lauren.audio/product/mustang
    • Echoline Roadrunner
    www.echolinepedals.com/pedals...
    • JHS 3 Series Reverb
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3twUFn3
    Australia: bit.ly/3E0oIIZ
    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3DVHfFP
    • Boss RV-6 Reverb
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2Q6NFw5
    Australia: bit.ly/2VtCEJR
    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3cSPMxb
    • Source Audio Collider Delay+Reverb
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2HwaALt
    Australia: bit.ly/323SzgS
    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3p914n0
    • Gamechanger Audio Light Pedal
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3yZ5iQV
    Australia: bit.ly/2X2f9bk
    USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/AoExzx
    • EarthQuaker Devices Astral Destiny
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/38W0P6W
    Australia: bit.ly/3tsnaCC
    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3xom10V
    • Dunlop Mini Volume X (used as expression pedal)
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2QLS44K
    Australia: bit.ly/2MhpSsI
    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/2ZtbGUQ
    • TheGigRig G3
    www.thegigrig.com/g3
    * Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
    Interesting bits and go-to sections…
    0:00 Intro playing
    3:05 Today’s questions and topics
    3:45 Today’s amps (with reverb)
    5:45 Tone King spring reverb tone
    7:32 Victory digital reverb tone
    9:41 Setting up the amps with a base level of reverb
    12:50 Why add more reverb from a pedal?
    14:55 JHS 3 Series Reverb
    17:10 What is pre-delay?
    19:54 Adding plate reverb to spring, Boss RV-6
    21:16 Plate reverb sounds
    22:36 Adding overdrive with plate reverb
    25:40 Increasing the time with plate reverb
    28:05 Small room reverb discussion
    29:12 Source Audio Collider, room mode
    35:45 Adventurous reverbs discussion
    36:38 Gamechanger Audio Light Pedal
    41:05 EarthQuaker Astral Destiny
    44:58 Astral Destiny & expression pedal
    47:30 Octave up and down verbs
    51:06 Overdrive before and after reverb
    53:33 Closing thoughts
    Guitars in this episode:
    • Fender American Original ’60s Jaguar - no video yet
    • Fender American Vintage ’59 Stratocaster (2012) - no video yet
    • Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster (2001) - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Dan'...
    Amps in this episode
    • Tone King Imperial MkII & 112 cab
    USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/b3mBqx
    • Victory VC35 The Copper & VC212 cab with 1 x Celestion G12 Greenback and 1 x Celestion G12H Anniversary
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    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3SkS5fJ
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  • @BrickDavis
    @BrickDavis หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    when I was fifteen, I was working a lot, I was kicked out of high school. so as I was working a lot I had a used twin reverb and telecaster, so I named my cats Reverb and Tele, and hearing you say you with have Reverb or you don't have Reverb made me think fondly of Reverb and Tele, Kind of off topic but I love you guys! Keep up the good entertaining work and invite me on the show I need a vacation or holiday.

  • @WailingRaven
    @WailingRaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Back when I started playing guitar, a friend of mine picked up a Marshall MG15CDR that someone threw away, he replaced the power plug and gave it to me. Have always thought it was broken or something, because whenever I move or shake the amp, it produces weird, thunderous like noises. Only after I got back into playing guitar again in recent years and getting more serious on learning guitar stuffs in general, that I've learnt that there's an actual spring tank inside of it that produces the reverb.

  • @kurtisr2339
    @kurtisr2339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good lord, Dan. Sometimes the playing in that shed is enough to bring a grown man to tears. The happiest sort. Just lovely.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, cheers Kurtis 🤓🙏

  • @Silverrats
    @Silverrats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    My wife got me the "tone tone tone" t-shirt for my first ever fathers day last Sunday. Looks great, highly recommend. This is the only guitar channel I catch her looking up and watching sometimes. Really speaks to how well your friendship and enthusiasm comes through the screen.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you Davide, and congrats to you and the missus!

    • @kurtisr2339
      @kurtisr2339 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Circled back round to this video (yet again!) and wanted to say a happy belated Father's Day, from a fellow dad (three here) and guitar nerd. My kids adore TPS. Mark of a most excellent child. Cheers, Davide!

  • @jakestewartmusic
    @jakestewartmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Spring reverb is the sound of your guitar reverberating in the acoustic space created by a spacetime-warping wormhole through rock n roll past, present, and future.

  • @BCarpenter2314
    @BCarpenter2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Really interesting how the pre delay setting setting makes the reverb seem bigger. I hadn't really thought about it that way but makes perfect sense. Great show as always, Cheers from Michigan.

    • @ericruddphotography
      @ericruddphotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bryan, varying the length of the predelay is an engineer’s secret weapon. 1. It increase the apparent size of the reverb without actually lengthen the amount of decay and 2. It actually adds clarity to the original signal by creating separation between the two.
      For me, the default starting point for predelay is 90ms. Give it a try!

  • @Gniff85411
    @Gniff85411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The new shots of individual pedals standing upright during the video are really awesome. It’s so fun to get a good look at them from a different perspective. Thanks for making the shows better and better all the time. You guys are never complacent.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THanks Garrick. Mick here. In a former life I had an interest in photography (and presided over hundreds of photo shoots) and I still marvel at how good those guys and gals were. So we try to make it look nice too. Cheers!

  • @crissmith2911
    @crissmith2911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I had trouble figuring out how not to lose the "character" of delays like Echoplex and DMM when run into some of these bigger reverb sounds. Then I discovered running delay and reverb in parallel, and I've become a big fan. Thanks to Dan for The Wetter Box! What a great piece of kit that allows you to blend delays and reverbs together without the delay getting washed out in the reverb.

    • @thorvelizelos
      @thorvelizelos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😮😮 36:38 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮aaaaaa

  • @paulwatson8809
    @paulwatson8809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Pro tip for spring reverbs that sound tinny: a drop of super glue on the transducers to keep them from rattling, weather stripping to mount the tank for extra shock absorbtion, cardboard underneath and foam/cloth around the tank (if it's not already in a pencil case bag.)Can turn a dinky verb into something useable.

    • @alexpoovey9852
      @alexpoovey9852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i need to try this on my hot rod deluxe… i thought i was just spoiled on the reverb in my twin but maybe it just needs a little tweaking. thanks

    • @joequintana5546
      @joequintana5546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexpoovey9852
      On a Hot Rod Deluxe you can cut off the bright capacitor on the Reverb pot and it gets really sweet and darker in tone.

    • @marcospintor1333
      @marcospintor1333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexpoovey9852 the verb on the hot rod deluxe is awesome tho! I have one and it’s 1000x better than the verb on my AC30.
      But i use twins at my school and the verb in those are delicious

  • @edparker3549
    @edparker3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I didn't think I needed extra reverb till last week when I tried the strymon blue sky...I fell totally in love with the sound. It just nails it perfectly for guitar. My board seems complete now! Phew....that's until next week of course 😆

    • @richardaaron4454
      @richardaaron4454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have TC Electronic Hall of Fame and the Earthquaker Devices Afterneath, I also have the Earthquaker Devices Disaster Transport SR (which has 2 Delays and Reverb), the only one I really want now is the Strymon Volante.

    • @blacktoothfox677
      @blacktoothfox677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That long!!??

    • @michaelcope9501
      @michaelcope9501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A complete board. Such an awesome place to be. Congrats Ed!

    • @edparker3549
      @edparker3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelcope9501 yes definitely, mind you it's been many years of tinkering and changing things out, but I finally feel like I'm 99% happy with what I've got now....always that 1% that bothers you though 😆

    • @edparker3549
      @edparker3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardaaron4454 that does sound awesome. Good luck on your journey!

  • @foks05
    @foks05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great topic guys. Well expained. And, man, that intro playing - Well done Dan!

    • @Celso_Luis
      @Celso_Luis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was really beautiful.

  • @dtreed7
    @dtreed7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the video guys! Not only can you put gain stages after the verb, but adding modulation aver verb is really cool as well! A good chorus, flanger, or vibrato modulating the reverb trails sounds amazing.

  • @davidburnsmusic
    @davidburnsmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Listening to the show whilst waiting in on a delivery of new microphones. Going to be a day of nothing but music, awesome! 😁

    • @mattelder9147
      @mattelder9147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m waiting on a Kingsley Jester. Can’t wait to rock out tonight! Happy Friday!

    • @stevenheath741
      @stevenheath741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m waiting on a New PRS ….Then it’s on. ……..Howdy Neighbours!

  • @samuelxavier2473
    @samuelxavier2473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perfect timing, lads. I've been trying to justify getting a reverb pedal - I have a big box spring thing in me amp - and you've given me several reasons why I should convince Mrs X that it's a good investment. Once I'm past that, I'll have to cope with option paralysis.

  • @SamsonBrock42
    @SamsonBrock42 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved seeing the pure fun y'all were having messing around with distortion after reverb

  • @Elraurko
    @Elraurko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was literally just asked this same question a couple days ago!
    I was showing a mate my new surfy bear metal and was about to plug into my deluxe reverb. Both are spring reverbs, both have full sized tanks but sound completely different from each other.
    It helps tremendously to be able to set and forget a moderate amount of reverb up on the dr for my basic/clean tone and then switch to the surfy bear for when I want to cruise on down to drip city.

    • @Elraurko
      @Elraurko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @neonthunderbird the amp for smaller clean stuff and the surfy bear for that vintage all out drip

  • @AndrewNuttall
    @AndrewNuttall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Picked up a Neunaber Illumine recently, having all those sounds available is more inspiring then I thought it would be.

  • @edwardbosloper2445
    @edwardbosloper2445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s freaking awesome! Love this episode. Was really glad to buy the JHS reverb.

  • @jamescourt2842
    @jamescourt2842 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just love these guys !
    I literally cannot wait to meet both them for next workshop they do finally ! it will be my first time there so I’m dead keen just thought of talking about guitar and gear all day sounds like best day ever.
    I’ll make sure to bring my guitar and pedalboard 🤟🤟🤟

  • @bennyelsensohn9299
    @bennyelsensohn9299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was always thinking "what is it with Dans Playing?" something is so different and new. But in this episode it really really shines and shows how unique your style is. Amazing chord voicings and dynamics. Super interesting!
    You guys are not only complete pedal nerds, but also superb players!
    Keep on rocking dudes :)

  • @carlterrore4557
    @carlterrore4557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oddly enough I have spring tanks in all my amps. I’ve always just set it low and on this past Monday I ordered my first ambient type reverb and it’s being delivered today so this couldn’t have been times better!

  • @onenotesolo256
    @onenotesolo256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another timely episode. I just bought a little verb pedal yesterday. Was inspired by Ariel Posen and one or two others, to look for something that makes some nice noises beyond the reverb on my amps (one of which has proper spring verb). Had to be small enough, and top-mount jacks, to tuck into a corner on an SA250, and be a deliberate mood effect.

  • @seagers_studio
    @seagers_studio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel for the Roland space echo at the back not getting any limelight during the spring reverb chat - hang in there bro we love you

  • @Timthecommenter
    @Timthecommenter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just had Paul Davids try to teach me Miserlou - then switched over and listened to you guys try to play it 6 minutes in. Great episode.

  • @SpedSpedding
    @SpedSpedding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    For me, I’d always want the option to control specific parameters so, yes.
    It’s nice to have reverb on an amp if you’re having a simple plug in and play day.
    But rig attached I’d never use the amp reverb. It’s too far away from my chair. 😂

    • @remylevine4478
      @remylevine4478 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My exact thoughts. For a little portable plug and play setup I want a built in reverb since I'll probably not run any pedals at all. But for my regular setup I absolutely want more control than an in amp reverb will give. That said, I rarely mess with it. I have it dialed in for just enough to not feel dry and dull. I run the Neunaber Immerse Mk2 and it was worth every penny. I had the MXR and it was good but I felt like it was tougher to dial in. It was also picky about my power supply, which could add to the cost for folks running cheaper ones that are working for them. My whole board is running off a OneSpot right now and perfectly happy. *knocks on wood*

  • @SallowKyn
    @SallowKyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So pleased to see the Collider Room reverbgetting kudos. That was an unexpected discovery in the pedal which I love to bits

  • @mikeroberts817
    @mikeroberts817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always like it when you guys get out your respective offsets. Something about them makes both of you play a little differently and it always sounds great.

  • @jasfiona
    @jasfiona 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant episode guys.
    Yeah, it was annoying that we primarily experienced and encountered reverb within amps, but as you said, Digital Reverb was around in rack formats. I think from 1985 for PA's and home recording there were things like the Yamaha SPX-90.
    However, the REX-50 was a guitar based version from 1986 which fitted perfectly on top of an amp, and had the option of MIDI and standard Footswitches.
    I've got my original unit and still use it.
    As you said, there were other Multi-FX available, especially the BOSS mini rack stuff and it was widely used, well around the Midlands it was anyway. I also sold them.

  • @johndavies4317
    @johndavies4317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That bloody awesome guys. I really like messing around with reverb, I have a basic cheap behringer DR600, great pedal for its price range, on a room setting, going through the loop in the back of my amp, and that is on its own built in Reverb. On spring..... does give a bolder thickness to the reverb. Thanks again guys.

  • @20thisisme
    @20thisisme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys have the coolest job

  • @CheddarKungPao
    @CheddarKungPao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great tones, and a variety of awesome sounding reverbs. I've been using plugin reverbs lately when recording because I find that using the same reverb on multiple instruments helps "glue" the track together and make it sound like one cohesive thing.

  • @AndrewJayGuitar
    @AndrewJayGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good sounding reverb can be so inspirational not only for tone, but in the creation of the music itself. I can think of no greater example of this than Devin Townsend. He uses reverb as a compositional tool as well as a large part of his tone; no matter the genre that he finds himself working with. It's a truly wonderful effect. Great episode guys! Thank you for all the hard work.

  • @Michael_Is_Avg
    @Michael_Is_Avg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really neat to see the Collider in the mix! Just got one a few days ago and still digging into it with my mini board, so I'll have to steal some of those settings.
    I have a mini tuner, Chase Bliss Preamp, Source Audio Collider, and the Walrus ACS1 all controlled by the Morningstar M6. Pretty crazy having such a compact direct solution with tones and presets this good.
    Always appreciate you both and hope you have a good weekend!

  • @alexlewis8468
    @alexlewis8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The small room reverb is such a great alternative to the usual hall/plate type reverb. Reminds me of some Brian May solos where even though the track is quite sonically dense/complex, the guitar pokes out of the mix and makes you feel like you are standing next to Brian in the studio. It 'breaks the 4th wall' of a studio album and I love it - thanks for showing us this guys! 😁

    • @StratsRUs
      @StratsRUs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's very true, it's similar to a 'back of the cab' mic'ing up sound.

  • @alexlewis8468
    @alexlewis8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, yes and yes! Haven't watched it yet, but a reverb is due to be my next purchase and need all the help I can get!

  • @sweettoof9002
    @sweettoof9002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After a long search I found the Catalinbread Topanga. Lovely reverb that can be subtle or huge and all points in between. It’s the best spring emulation IMO. It replicates all the clang and drip of a real spring tank. Love it.

  • @billyshears6622
    @billyshears6622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That pre-delay is so subtle I didn't really understand it playing with my jhs reverb, but hearing it here, it really cleans up the attack. I like it! 🤔

  • @ElPedro212
    @ElPedro212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to have you guys back! The other thing to me about pedal reverb is that, to my ears, spring reverbs can have a sort of non-linear response where they get exponentially louder the harder you hit them, while to my ears the car majority of pedal reverbs have a more linear response (which can give you more reverb when playing more delicately). And I think the siding reverb EQ can be relatively specific...

  • @proletar-ian
    @proletar-ian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've tried tons of reverbs and I always go back to the JHS 3 series reverb. It does 1 thing and sounds incredible. I like to put it in front of modulation too to get cool tails.

  • @BIGmanDAN72
    @BIGmanDAN72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing. Love your take on reverb. Keep some on at all times. (Unless your playing where enough occurs naturally) the whole point is to emulate space.
    Also when both those amps came on together it felt like a cheat code was unlocked. Amazing stuff guys

  • @steveo44
    @steveo44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was given a tc Hall of fame and had only ever used built in reverb before. What a revelation!. Room reverb sounds splendid!

  • @keithlabonte2547
    @keithlabonte2547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan, your improv is awesome. Very fluid and dynamic. Great work.

  • @blacktoothfox677
    @blacktoothfox677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like having reverb on an expression pedal, so I can 'inject' it into the sound as and when, leave the odd note of a solo just hanging in space... generally, I like it dry, all the gain dynamics detailed and focused. But... LOVE the Accutronics in a couple of me amps, love the cheap trashy spring reverb in another, love the beautifully articulate digital reverbs, the cavernous hall... I have quite a few options, but STILL plan to add more horses for my various courses....
    Great show as always guys - love how you climb into the corners of the anorak! We all need you...
    Stay safe out there! Big Love from the New Forest

  • @astewart9410
    @astewart9410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mick and Dan: Thanks for your help last time with my pedal noise issue. I got a TrueTone OneSpot CS7 and it seems to have done the trick... mostly... I still get swirly noises in the amp when the MXR Phase 90 is on (in either 200 or 500 mAh plugs), but you were right about the MXR M300 reverb - I put it into a 500 mAh plug and the rest of the noise went away. Thanks so much!
    PS: I am so in love with my D&M Drive. What an epic pedal! It's everything I could have wanted for drive and boost, all in one place! Great job!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is all good news A, thanks for letting us know! And big thanks for buying the D&M - you are contributing directly to keeping us on the air!

    • @gearoftones8585
      @gearoftones8585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By the way, in your Truetone one spot. The ratings on the power output are meaningless. The 500ma output gives you no more or less power than the 100ma output. It's the type of design.

  • @timchalmers1700
    @timchalmers1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TPS lights up my GAS. I love it when Mick gets into the SRV-like chops. And both guys are laughing over Dan's sonic explosions.

  • @ericruddphotography
    @ericruddphotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello boys, from Bloomington, Indiana. As a recovering recording engineer, I love the use of reverb. It’s a great tool for creating space.
    One question I wished you had touched on….where does (guitarist’s) reverb fit in a LIVE setting? For me, I rarely use reverb on my live gigging pedal board, just delay if I need to create a bit of “float.” The size/space of the venue imparts its own reflections on the sound, and onboard reverb can (potentially) make your sound less clear and present.
    For example, I play in my church band. Many contemporary Christian recordings today have an “arena” sound, so guys at church think they have to impart that reverb wash in a live setting, then they wonder why my Tele-OD-delay with about 130ms/4 repeats sounds so huge through the PA.

  • @mitchellschaff6520
    @mitchellschaff6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IM SO JELLY!!!! YOU LOVELY LADS HAVE ALL THESE PEDALS N AMPS N GUITARS N STUFF, AND YOU GET TO EXPERIMENT TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT, IN ANY DIRECTION YOU DESIRE, HAVING SO MUCH FUN!!! wich is what it's all about anyway, I AM SOOOOO JELLY!!!!!!! NEVER STOP!!!!!! mitch from Minnesota

  • @davidpepper442
    @davidpepper442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main amp is a Deluxe Reverb...best reverb in the business as far as I'm concerned. I bought a Catalinbread Topanga to use with my blackface Vibrochamp and realized I could use it with my DR for some extra reverb/depth without walking over and adjusting the amp. Sounds great. Cheers guys!

  • @jospoortman9915
    @jospoortman9915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    besides the reverb, that tone king is a gorgeous looking amp

  • @chipsterb4946
    @chipsterb4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I built a Princeton Reverb years ago. Not sure I’ve ever turned the Reverb knob past 5 despite having a Dwell knob - otherwise I’d drown 😜. However, I got a Walrus Fathom yesterday and the wide range of sounds that pedal can produce is fabulous. It does NOT do spring reverb, but it does so many other wonderful things and you have so much control.

  • @natepopodi4770
    @natepopodi4770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me, the spring reverb in my amp is more of an always on, subtle effect. I can definitely see the benefit of having more parameters or flavors.

  • @paulcowart3174
    @paulcowart3174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all the work you guy's are doing You Good Sir's are saving a lot of player's young and old time and money on gear choices And just player insight as well Thanks always Hey guys a nice PAF revisit w some old and new models Doyle Coils.....WCR....the new HB's in the Murphy Lab Very cool 😎👍

  • @karltraunmuller7048
    @karltraunmuller7048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous playing, Dan 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @kaiwerner7477
    @kaiwerner7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos you guys!!

  • @danielherbert8060
    @danielherbert8060 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the 65 Princeton a little while ago and love the spring. Love putting reverb pedals on top though - about to pick up the Context from the library and planning to play space jams all evening....

  • @jt3483
    @jt3483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought this was great! I'm of the same camp. Always have some amp reverb on, then will add pedal reverb over the top at times.
    I think a similar show, but focused on amp vs pedal Tremolo would be cool as well!

  • @CurranKevin
    @CurranKevin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never been particularly drawn to Jaguars, but that America Original Jag you're playing, Dan, sounds gorgeous. And I wouldn't be in a rush to throw a Mastery bridge on there unless you're going to play really hard. That slightly dead, woody tone is so distinctive and sounds great with the kind of playing you were doing in the intro. Great stuff!

  • @ericrudd
    @ericrudd ปีที่แล้ว

    For all the boutique pedal companies out their (and I’ve owned/own a bunch) I’m reminded how good the Boss pedals really are. Simple and well thought-out.

  • @p1eces
    @p1eces 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason I bought the Fender Tre-verb pedal is that I was using the FX loop in my amp, and the reverb in the amp was BEFORE the loop. I prefer delay after pre-amp drive and before reverb, so it had to come from a pedal in the loop.
    In addition, the Super Sonic 22 amp I was using has a noisy pre-amp so I wanted a noise gate in the loop. The amp reverb before the loop would get its trails chopped off by the noise gate, so I'd go Loop Out - Modulation - Noise Gate - Delay - Reverb - Trem - Loop In.

  • @Frankyandhisguitar
    @Frankyandhisguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are awesome!

  • @clintlombard1014
    @clintlombard1014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This show was just missing an EHX Holy Grail Plus on the ‘Flerb’ setting! Great episode guys.

    • @garfield4863
      @garfield4863 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think anybody has ever willing used that reverb mode

  • @joeurbanowski321
    @joeurbanowski321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan is such a happy..yet mischievous elf with the distortion before/after the reverb…🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏼❤️

  • @mattmanley7118
    @mattmanley7118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great show guys

  • @paulcallum9057
    @paulcallum9057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys great show thanks for the reverb pedals I do love my fender delux I am saving for the victory v35 my kind I of thing supper cool I will look at add a reverb pedal 👍 Paul Bedford 🤓

  • @stevekirby7333
    @stevekirby7333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned in recording years ago to mix different reverbs. It sounds less artificial that way. So now I use a HOF plate in front of my amps spring reverb.

  • @adalbertoschuckjr.1509
    @adalbertoschuckjr.1509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most amazing use of reverb, for me of course, is in the music "More blues" in the Pink Floyd's MORE album.

  • @andrewmorgan1640
    @andrewmorgan1640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many drippy things are needed, nice show lads

  • @eliedwards17
    @eliedwards17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wicked game!!!! Nice!!!

  • @iainfreeman5112
    @iainfreeman5112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can’t wait to watch this. I recently got rid of pedals (ehx memory man with Hazarai & Keeley Hooke) as I had reverb in my amp (boss katana)

  • @moarguitars6322
    @moarguitars6322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The real hero of this weeks show is the Lauren Audio Mustang preamp. Incredible tones from that thing!

  • @MattXScott
    @MattXScott 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this one! Shout out to the late James Calvin Wilsey, the guitarist who played on the early Chris Isaak album (the only good ones imo). One of my favorite guitar players. Check out his instrumental solo album titled El Dorado. There are a few articles online about his life. Sad story but he was a good dude. He also played bass for the punk bank the Avengers.

  • @bigideaslittlefocus1154
    @bigideaslittlefocus1154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like having my amp set with a bit of spring and then use a reverb pedal for more ambience!

  • @dave1081
    @dave1081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TGI-TPS-F!! I use a 64 deluxe reverb (handwired) with certainly one of the best reverb sounds around. However, I started using a Catalinbread Topanga as it somehow dealt better with gainier sounds. Endet up using the Free The Tone Ambi Space which is mindblowing. No nonsense, just tone!

    • @MrBallynally2
      @MrBallynally2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you cannot control the length of an amp spring, just the intensity. Thats why you need something that gives air around individual notes. For that you need an early reflection reverb like a Topanga or just a simple very short delay low in the mix. Start with that and add yr amp reverb according to playing situation.

  • @gbarge4
    @gbarge4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb edit at 19:45. "Delays" to "reverbs" and Mick reenacts seamlessly with teacup. This episode reminded me of how fun it can be to play with reverbs in my DAW, especially using the Waves Abbey Road Plates vs. Chambers (hard tiled echo chamber). I wonder how much you guys experiment with plugins to inform your pedal choices. Cheers, guys. -G

  • @louwkicronje8740
    @louwkicronje8740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your show, thanks for all the invaluable knowledge. If I may make a suggestion, perhaps you could add some backing tracks of bass/drums etc.? A lot of guitar tones are dependent on the context of where they fit in a mix. Think it could be a really cool element to diversify the show.

  • @jonathananderson3897
    @jonathananderson3897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Reverb is possibly the most Important thing after the basic tone of the guitar and amp. It changes everything, you can do a million different things, just with reverb/s. I love it almost as much as these two guys ✌️

    • @0megalul309
      @0megalul309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me its delay.

    • @jonathananderson3897
      @jonathananderson3897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@0megalul309 it really depends, for cleans I tend to prefer reverb, dirty sounds probably more delay. Let's face we need them all 😂

  • @corpse-in-orbit
    @corpse-in-orbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What Mick said about using mild reverbs to sit in the mix - exactly. When I'm playing alone, I basically never use reverb, and I don't especially like playing with it. When I mix a recording, I'll put just a little bit of the same reverb on everything (usually room verb), and then a touch of another reverb on something I want to pop out of the mix (usually a high-passed plate). People *drastically* underestimate how much reverb is in pretty much every mix, and, oh, 80% of it is there not to be heard as such, but as a space-carving implement.

    • @corpse-in-orbit
      @corpse-in-orbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And, of course, the all-time effect on vocals is slapback echo, which is essentially where reverb and delay cross over into each other.

  • @connorryan5811
    @connorryan5811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome as always boys

  • @277southtombob
    @277southtombob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I’ve always liked having 2 reverbs and 2 delays. I use one of the reverbs and one delay very mildly set to improve the room sound then I still have a reverb and a delay I can set as a obvious “effect”

    • @garrettnorthrup
      @garrettnorthrup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Used to do the same thing! Downsized to two ‘verbs and one delay since I didn’t really miss the subtler one.

    • @timchalmers1700
      @timchalmers1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting idea - I haven't tried that yet.

    • @jonathandulin8753
      @jonathandulin8753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve found that a dual pedal like Avalanche Run or the Keeley Caverns can be really good for that use.

    • @ofsoundmind13
      @ofsoundmind13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m just diving in to the heavier delays and verbs. I’ve always got one of each on mildly for my base tone as well. This may be the option I need. Thanks

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have reverb built into both my fender amps but I just got the JHS 3 series Hall Reverb and it is glorious.

  • @bniwa
    @bniwa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the biggest challenge for me is trying to find the one reverb that produces the best harmonic content with my particular tone (or guitar I'm playing that day). I find a lot of spring reverbs sound great with certain guitars of mine and terrible with others, especially when it comes to creating that complimentary harmonic content, that lush velvet goodness that makes you ooze. so for me, having a few reverb pedals is a must in my "tool kit of tones", and ultimately gives me more creative freedom, creates more space to explore that balance of realism and dreamland.

  • @BV_Beve
    @BV_Beve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    TPS cooking with ambience ! .... all the reverb people are over there in the large hall.... meanwhile .... all the non reverb people have locked themselves in a small cupboard ...

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahahahahaha!!

    • @ralvknights
      @ralvknights 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      TPS been cooking vegetarian fender style sandwiches, i am still waiting for a big juicy dirt amp burger with lots of fried fuzz/od pedals and a milkshake with modulation pedals to go.

  • @MrNocaster
    @MrNocaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I run a strymon Flint into a Bigsky and it sounds huge. Not washed out. Still able to hear the notes. DR Z Z28, so no reverb, but when i did have a amp with reverb, I always run 2 reverbs. Always.

    • @shckltnebay
      @shckltnebay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would think the BS could be enough, ive got the Flint

  • @user-tx8uc3iw3w
    @user-tx8uc3iw3w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey guys .. great to see ye back .. hope the holidays went well ... surprised ye didn't use the princeton for this vid ..
    :)

  • @markjames7140
    @markjames7140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recommend the Hof Mini for exploring reverb, lots of options with the tone print, but only 1 knob to find with so it's nice and simples.

  • @billovsky
    @billovsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Given the subject, I thought this would be a 3h video at least :P ...at the end I wanted more! Great work guys!

  • @bryangarcia662
    @bryangarcia662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Haven't finished the episode yet, but...
    Mick's playing starting at 25:55
    Wow, just, wow.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Bryan!

    • @ArchitexMaze75
      @ArchitexMaze75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Transit van sounded killer and that playing was everything i love about strats and micks playing

    • @sroelit
      @sroelit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Semi-busy appears to be the genre I’ve been searching for my whole life.

  • @kurtisr2339
    @kurtisr2339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes reverb doesn't have to work in the mix... like when everybody else gets to have a pint while you noodle for the room. Dan's breathtaking opener--which mortar-and-pestled my soul into a fine powder--is a perfect example. The room gets happy, the band gets happy, and you can let yourself get tangled up in all that glorious resonance.

  • @hammyjammies
    @hammyjammies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm sad to see the Mr Black Supermoon not getting on the board for a demo. For someone who gets a headache looking at pedals with more than about five parameters to twiddle with that was one of the first ambient verbs I could get along with

  • @daveystrange
    @daveystrange 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving this episode! Please do a similar one but looking at delay pedals?... PS. Mick- your playing at 26mins. Wow.

  • @ThePercyphone
    @ThePercyphone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love stacking reverbs. Bought a TC plethora for the fun of stacking.

  • @eoinjennings519
    @eoinjennings519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my RV6 is on order and feeling happy about that (have the RV5)

  • @luke_reiss
    @luke_reiss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mick: Jimmy Barnes Simply the Best. Salutations to Dan as well. Great video!!!
    My reverb pedal doesn't have a pre-delay, so I have a delay pedal just before the reverb, despite it's not the same thing.

  • @scottakam
    @scottakam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks guys.

  • @pabcrane
    @pabcrane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very enjoyable episode, although I must be a very boring bugger because for the best and most inspiring sound was the Tone King by itself with the reverb up full!
    That's very interesting about the Mark III having two reverb levels - I used to use a Boss FRV -1 up full on top of my amp spring up full in the shoegazey band I was in, kicking the boss in as needed.
    Cheers

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kicking the boss in! Springsteen be affeared!

  • @stuart_rose
    @stuart_rose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    “Space (around the note), the final frontier…” Princeton Reverb + EQD Dispatch Master is all the splosh I NEED. ‘No reverb, no happy’ t-shirts coming? 🤓

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ah, we should so do that Stuart!

    • @stanislavmigra
      @stanislavmigra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Princeton Reverb + Dispatch Master sounds like match made in heaven

    • @themagicofseth
      @themagicofseth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would 100% buy that shirt

  • @roryyerama5496
    @roryyerama5496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Show idea: wet/dry or stereo rigs using only a multi effects unit for the wet side (HX Effects, Boss GT 1000 Core, etc) and use stand-alone analog dirt pedals on the dry side - this looks like a real space saving idea on the surface but can you get tones that move you?

  • @Frankie_Holt
    @Frankie_Holt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Catalainbread has released Topanga Burnside reverb that has tremolo on the reverb trails. Very cool 😎

    • @GuitarJawn
      @GuitarJawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still not the Echorec Deluxe

  • @cisemokram
    @cisemokram 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    predelay is such a huge thing. It allows you to get as crazy as you want without getting in the way of the transient

  • @paulmatulevich3623
    @paulmatulevich3623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see Dan showing the Jag some love, now Mic needs to find his SG and Shwanggrila will be one step closer to tonal Nirvana🧘‍♂️