Great tips for bushing removal. One bit of advice, a little heat from a propane torch on the control arm collars (around the bushing) helps loosen everything up. If you do it lightly, it won't cause too much of a stink in your workshop.
'Interference' is an automotive term used for when things fit very, very tightly or are squeezed to fit somehow but to talk about a 'bond' is a perfectly good way to describe how the rubber & metal have mated (before you undermine them using the petrol trick to help separate them) in this video. Your English is excellent by the way.
Added install trick is put bushings in freezer over night. Course put steel(rod) in sun ☀ or warm to help also. One would b surprised @ how much the rubber contracts.
Good to know, I will use this method next time I have a rubber bush to remove. For the metal sleeve type bushes you can also use endless thread, two nuts, heavy duty washers of various sizes & one or two pieces of pipe, same principal but it pulls the bush out
While struggling with mine today, I was wondering what I might use to break down the rubber that seemed to be bonded somehow to the outer sleeve. Gasoline, petrol, benzine. I, for some reason did not even consider that. Thank you. And a great idea with the gear puller. Next project, I will use that. Thank you!
Thank you! I just bought a suspension overhaul kit for my aw11 that includes the Prothane kit and was debating on whether or not I wanted to try and find a cheap press. Definitely going to give this a shot first!
Here's how I have removed bushings: clamp the control arm in a bench vice, then use a hole saw on a drill to cut into the rubber bushing, then attach the drill to a wire rust removal tool and pull it back through the opening, clearing all the rubber and leaving the metal clean!
A realy good idea, especially the petrol bath. Sadly suspension arms made from pressed steel instead of cast aluminium, often to find on less sporty cars, sometimes do not have enougth "meat" for the gear puller to grab. If the gas torch is the only solution, here are some tips: 1. Do it outside. 2. Do not inhale the fumes and do not bend over the treated bushing. 3. Let it burn. It starts to stink when the fire is extinguished. 4. No need to completely burn the rubber away. Just heat up the inner steel tube until it can be pushed out of the rubber sleeve gently with a screwdriver or metal rod. The rubber can be pulled out easily afterwards. On bushings with an outer steel tube, like for example engine mounts I prefer another method: Mount a hand metal saw with the blade through the inner tube and saw through the inner tube, the rubber and precisely through the outer tube without demaging the engine mount. The tension of the pressed in bushing then reduces its scope and lets it fall out. If this doesn't work, do a second cut round about a centimeter next to the first an hammer a flat screwdriver between the outer tube and the engine mount.
Great instructions. A video to go along those and you got some great content :) The alternative for thin walled suspension arms is to use a vice and some piping. I've seen it done, a bit fiddly but works.
Great tip and video! This is great idea. Thanks for sharing. I'm preparing to do this myself. Regarding burning the rubber. The way i seen it done is heating the outside of the control arm (or whatever suspension component) unless the heat transfers to the rubber melting it away from its shell. Not actually holding the flame to the rubber. Posting in case it can help someone. Cheers 🍻
If you end up with a stuck bushing you can always heat the metal holding the bushing with a torch. (Not the bushing it’s self) it will allow the bushing to slide out much easier and less than multiple days.
Try drilling them out. Drill multiple holes through the rubber around the bushing then cut it out with a long razer. You can then slice into the remaining rubber and pull it out.
I've drilled them out before. Everyone has a drill and bits (I think). Make lots of drill holes around the rubber. It eventually reduces in volume to the point it can be pushed out by hand using a screwdriver. Although, don't even attempt this job if you don't have the tools to install a new bush. It can be done with bolts, nuts, and washers if you're on a budget.
Toyota fam 🤘🏼 love the build/channel but the fire is more fun 😂 as long as you heat the OUTSIDE of the bearing just until the rubber bond melts, there's minimal fire
Bit of an easier option. Use a small drill bit to drill the rubber arround the bushing then stick it in a vice and tap it out with an appropriately sized socket. Thats how i did mine
Don't forget kids to lightly wire brush the inside and clean with a rag. Now you replacing the bushings again might not happen but in the event you do it won't be as hard to remove
A long bolt with a nut, a piece of pipe just a little bigger than the bushing, and two thick flat washers one just a little smaller than the bushing the other just a little bigger than the pipe. Put the bolt with the smaller washer through the bushing and then the pipe with the larger washer on last put the nut on. Tighten the nut pressing out the bushing press the new bushing in the same way
Just a vice and standard hole saw does it quickly and easily , the hole saw wants to be slightly smaller than the external diameter of the bush, finish with a hack saw , jig or recip saw.
Umm some suspension bushings are encased in a steel shell that is pressed into the control arm. So all this would do is force out the center metal and you would still be stuck with the steel shell pressed into the control arm. Get a bushing press or rent one. Most auto parts stores will let you rent one for a day. Also using a gear puller can damage the control arm itself. Using something that for something that it wasn't intended for can possibly do damage.
Lot of good ideas in the comments. Good video. If you put a washer between the threaded rod on the puller and the end of a new bushing do you think you could install the new one in reverse? Just a thought because they can be pretty hard to install.
In my case the polyurethane ones I installed were easy to insert. I used my hands or a table vise for some of them. Installing rubber oem style ones is usually a bit harder but I've seen people have good results with methods similar to what you described, so it should work.
What about the outer show the bushing that Toyota's have? Other videos have used a metal cutting blade on a sawzall to get the outer shell of Toyota bushings clear of the control arm.
Get a can of the carb solvent from NAPA or similar stor. It is better than gasoline in that you soak it and they pop right out. Turns the rubber to goo. Just sayin ;)
Good video. On a related issue, do you have a similarly easy way to change a ball joint on a control arm. particularly when the manufacturer does not sell a separate ball joint and forces people to change the entire control arm?
I'd have to see how the entire part looks, maybe it's designed in such a way tbat it's impossible/ very hard and doesn't make sense. Send me a link to picture. Is the ball joint cast together with the arm?
simply put a little oil on a drill bit that fits between the inner sleeve of the bushing and the inner wall of the component and drill holes around the circumference. the metal center will fall out and the remaining rubber will follow,,,easiest way !
I had no no problem with them i use air chisel on steel part of old rubber suspension bushings and refit with the help of large thick washer with bolt welded to it and used air chisel to drive it in hope this helps some times i did not remove arm from car, some bushes need to have orientation marked to obtain correct fit give it a try
Just make a lot of holes in the rubber with a drill along the bushin tap him and is off. Simple as that. To put a new bushin with your method os easy too.
Also this will not work with bushes that have outer casing on some car you need a press so at the end of the day its worth buying one or a kit for removing or pressing out/in things
Gaz Girl It works on bushings with crowns, after you put them in gasoline for a day or two. The crowns can then be removed by hand, you don't even need a knife. Of course a press works better, but it takes up a lot space and isn't cheap. Most average diy car enthusiasts don't do this type of thing too often. If you do this type of work often enough, then of course a press is justified as you suggest.
For the bushes on my replacement trailing beam, it will be hard to put on to a press. 2 or 3 people may be needed to hold it while the 2nd or 3rd person operates the press
Bushing presses double as bearing presses and fit into a plastic case just like your tools to. Also you can simply rent one from a parts store for a day as well.
thanks for sharing; just a question: you have a video showing how you made engine mounst with polyurethane liquid; you didn't fancy doing the ones you bought (I'm asking since I have not decided yet what I am going to do).
You can't pour suspension bushings. It's possible but it's a hassle and a lot more difficult than engine mounts and it would look ugly most likely. Plus, suspension bushings are really cheap new compared to engine mounts for most cars.
It's not. It's called a pitman arm puller. He's using it as a press here, but this isn't what it's meant for. Those arms with the hooks on the end reach around the back side of a pitman arm and pull it off a stationary vehicle. Like this: th-cam.com/video/dJs5iS13DGk/w-d-xo.html EDIT: Linked a better video.
@@henrym.2156 How to remove rubber bushings without a press or burning - suspension episode 5 2:25 until you manage to push out rubber ! :)) how is that pushing out but not without pushing bushing !
Nice video, but will not work on Jeep JK control-arms.. The rubber is glued with a Bonding-agent inside a metal-sleeve.. The only thing that works is LOTS OF FLAMES!!!!
It's just a generic made in china gear puller, no brand name on it. Any gear puller that has nice straight arms like this that move in this fashion will work fine. Glad you liked the video and thanks for watching.
What about a bushing mounted on a car where you have a limited amount of space to even fit a gear puller. I'm upgrading the rear suspension to my 1965 Mustang and am having troubles with the bushings connecting the car to the shackles of the back of the leaf spring.
If you get the 2-piece polyurethane bushings, you just push one piece into each side and put the hollow steel tube through the center. Line up the holes and push the bolt through. The bushings sometimes are just slightly longer than the hole you’re putting them into, so when you tighten the bolt, it compresses the bushings tight. No need for any kind of press. Might need to hammer it in, but that will not take to much effort.
Installing polyurethane ones is dead simple, you just press them in with your hands or a table vice. Oem ones usually can't be installed like this and are bought as an assembly together with the metal arm, and are already pressed in.
Gear puller I used: amzn.to/2oRocLn
Great tips for bushing removal. One bit of advice, a little heat from a propane torch on the control arm collars (around the bushing) helps loosen everything up. If you do it lightly, it won't cause too much of a stink in your workshop.
'Interference' is an automotive term used for when things fit very, very tightly or are squeezed to fit somehow but to talk about a 'bond' is a perfectly good way to describe how the rubber & metal have mated (before you undermine them using the petrol trick to help separate them) in this video. Your English is excellent by the way.
Great tip. Have struggled in the past to remove those bushings. Can't wait to try this.
Added install trick is put bushings in freezer over night.
Course put steel(rod) in sun ☀ or warm to help also.
One would b surprised @ how much the rubber contracts.
Good to know, I will use this method next time I have a rubber bush to remove. For the metal sleeve type bushes you can also use endless thread, two nuts, heavy duty washers of various sizes & one or two pieces of pipe, same principal but it pulls the bush out
I tried everything. Had a bushing with metal sleeve. No chance. I had to burn the rubber and cut the sleeve.
Great video! I like using a drill bit to drill a bunch of holes in the rubber, then push the sleeve out.
That's a good idea as well! Thanks for watching and commenting.
flashhog01 Took the words out of my mouth. By far my favorite way to remove them..
How do you put it back in? Taking it out is of no use. If can not put it back.
Did that too! Way better than setting the thing on fire! Be ready to lose at least a drill bit!
@@carlosvalentin856 You put a new one in with a vice, press, c-clamp or hammer.
While struggling with mine today, I was wondering what I might use to break down the rubber that seemed to be bonded somehow to the outer sleeve. Gasoline, petrol, benzine. I, for some reason did not even consider that. Thank you. And a great idea with the gear puller. Next project, I will use that. Thank you!
THANK YOU!! Hard to find a simple quick how to video these days
Thank you! I just bought a suspension overhaul kit for my aw11 that includes the Prothane kit and was debating on whether or not I wanted to try and find a cheap press. Definitely going to give this a shot first!
Here's how I have removed bushings: clamp the control arm in a bench vice, then use a hole saw on a drill to cut into the rubber bushing, then attach the drill to a wire rust removal tool and pull it back through the opening, clearing all the rubber and leaving the metal clean!
BRILLIANT!
A realy good idea, especially the petrol bath.
Sadly suspension arms made from pressed steel instead of cast aluminium, often to find on less sporty cars, sometimes do not have enougth "meat" for the gear puller to grab.
If the gas torch is the only solution, here are some tips:
1. Do it outside.
2. Do not inhale the fumes and do not bend over the treated bushing.
3. Let it burn. It starts to stink when the fire is extinguished.
4. No need to completely burn the rubber away. Just heat up the inner steel tube until it can be pushed out of the rubber sleeve gently with a screwdriver or metal rod. The rubber can be pulled out easily afterwards.
On bushings with an outer steel tube, like for example engine mounts I prefer another method:
Mount a hand metal saw with the blade through the inner tube and saw through the inner tube, the rubber and precisely through the outer tube without demaging the engine mount.
The tension of the pressed in bushing then reduces its scope and lets it fall out.
If this doesn't work, do a second cut round about a centimeter next to the first an hammer a flat screwdriver between the outer tube and the engine mount.
Great instructions. A video to go along those and you got some great content :) The alternative for thin walled suspension arms is to use a vice and some piping. I've seen it done, a bit fiddly but works.
Thanks. I thought about making videos but I can't afford a camera because I spend way too much money on car parts.
Be careful not to mistake that for your water bottle... been there.
Great tip and video! This is great idea. Thanks for sharing. I'm preparing to do this myself. Regarding burning the rubber. The way i seen it done is heating the outside of the control arm (or whatever suspension component) unless the heat transfers to the rubber melting it away from its shell. Not actually holding the flame to the rubber. Posting in case it can help someone. Cheers 🍻
Had to do this today on my Ford Sierra and i was so confused at first, then i watched your video and it really helped me. You earned yourself a sub!
If you end up with a stuck bushing you can always heat the metal holding the bushing with a torch. (Not the bushing it’s self) it will allow the bushing to slide out much easier and less than multiple days.
And fatigue the metal of the part being worked on? No thanks,
Try drilling them out. Drill multiple holes through the rubber around the bushing then cut it out with a long razer. You can then slice into the remaining rubber and pull it out.
Sounds like a really good idea, i was considering that solution too before i decided to buy an extraction tool instead
@@sukhmaidickoff I've done it on a few hydraulic bushings that can't be pushed out.
You can select a socket wrench just large enough to receive the metal bushing jacket. Use all thread with thick washers (and grease) to crank it out.
I've drilled them out before. Everyone has a drill and bits (I think). Make lots of drill holes around the rubber. It eventually reduces in volume to the point it can be pushed out by hand using a screwdriver.
Although, don't even attempt this job if you don't have the tools to install a new bush. It can be done with bolts, nuts, and washers if you're on a budget.
This is great. Would be awesome to see the replacement process.
Toyota fam 🤘🏼 love the build/channel but the fire is more fun 😂 as long as you heat the OUTSIDE of the bearing just until the rubber bond melts, there's minimal fire
I did something similar with a puller on a set of bushings. Worked great.
I have been successful drilling holes between the outer component and the middle sleeve. Keep drilling till all is able to be pushed out or pry Ed out
Bit of an easier option. Use a small drill bit to drill the rubber arround the bushing then stick it in a vice and tap it out with an appropriately sized socket. Thats how i did mine
How about reinstall a new rubber bushing?
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You could use the gear puller to install it. Just put a washer on the side where the shaft pushes against the bushing...
You can also use all-thread, nuts, washers, and deep socket wrenches.
Good tip ive used a hole saw to cut thru rubber and air hammer the outer shell off.
Don't forget kids to lightly wire brush the inside and clean with a rag. Now you replacing the bushings again might not happen but in the event you do it won't be as hard to remove
A long bolt with a nut, a piece of pipe just a little bigger than the bushing, and two thick flat washers one just a little smaller than the bushing the other just a little bigger than the pipe. Put the bolt with the smaller washer through the bushing and then the pipe with the larger washer on last put the nut on. Tighten the nut pressing out the bushing press the new bushing in the same way
Also Always Lightly Grease the Threads of the Gear Puller or even tiny bit of oil if dont have grease.
Looks good for that style of bushing, but some bushings have a metal sleeve on the outside of the rubber.
I just used a drll on the rubber and Chiseled out the outer sleeve. Took about an hour each AND got them done in 1 day. Also like this way also.
Awesome tip bro! I was thinking that acetone might be much quicker than gasoline. Thanks for the video.
2008 BMW 128i - rear subframe replacement. U sir are a genius :). Thank you for the tips!
Just a vice and standard hole saw does it quickly and easily , the hole saw wants to be slightly smaller than the external diameter of the bush, finish with a hack saw , jig or recip saw.
Just got my shop press last night! I wish I saw this video earlier!
A press is still a great purchase and super useful. It takes zero effort compared to this, it's faster and you will find a bunch of other uses for it.
driving 4 answers thanks 😁!
Ball joint press tool works really well!
He explained that his method is an economy alternative to having the right tools.
but this tool might damage the new bushing. i recommend the one that pulls the bushings from the edges or the kit that have cups
Would it help to heat it with a torch while it is submerged in gasoline?
Just throw a match. Same effect :)
Yes, absolutely. Even better when done in a garage with the doors closed
You need to do that on a sofa
try it
Be sure to do it at the nearest gas station since they have plenty of extra fuel to get it out.
"jar or bowl." Or, you know, the cover from a 100 pack of blank CDRs....
Nice technique. Can you show us how to insert a new bushing?
Umm some suspension bushings are encased in a steel shell that is pressed into the control arm. So all this would do is force out the center metal and you would still be stuck with the steel shell pressed into the control arm. Get a bushing press or rent one. Most auto parts stores will let you rent one for a day. Also using a gear puller can damage the control arm itself. Using something that for something that it wasn't intended for can possibly do damage.
Lot of good ideas in the comments. Good video. If you put a washer between the threaded rod on the puller and the end of a new bushing do you think you could install the new one in reverse? Just a thought because they can be pretty hard to install.
In my case the polyurethane ones I installed were easy to insert. I used my hands or a table vise for some of them. Installing rubber oem style ones is usually a bit harder but I've seen people have good results with methods similar to what you described, so it should work.
Ha this is great. I did mine with to sockets and a bench vice and a hammer......would have been nice to see this years ago.
Got to do mine. Thank you for the info, from an american.
What about the outer show the bushing that Toyota's have?
Other videos have used a metal cutting blade on a sawzall to get the outer shell of Toyota bushings clear of the control arm.
Get a can of the carb solvent from NAPA or similar stor. It is better than gasoline in that you soak it and they pop right out. Turns the rubber to goo. Just sayin ;)
Thanks, I think you just saved me a couple of hours.
Don't think there is a NAPA in Bosnia.
very useful , did not know about the petrol.
😢😢😢....The Gear Puller is NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR SALE on Amazon....😭😭😭😭
Some cars have vulcanized bushing installed. You have to burn them out, then clean, then press in the new one.
Just drill holes through the length of the rubber in the bushings and the will fall apart. Then, just knock out the outer ring.
Good video. On a related issue, do you have a similarly easy way to change a ball joint on a control arm. particularly when the manufacturer does not sell a separate ball joint and forces people to change the entire control arm?
I'd have to see how the entire part looks, maybe it's designed in such a way tbat it's impossible/ very hard and doesn't make sense. Send me a link to picture. Is the ball joint cast together with the arm?
simply put a little oil on a drill bit that fits between the inner sleeve of the bushing and the inner wall of the component and drill holes around the circumference. the metal center will fall out and the remaining rubber will follow,,,easiest way !
I had no no problem with them i use air chisel on steel part of old rubber suspension bushings and refit with the help of large thick washer with bolt welded to it and used air chisel to drive it in hope this helps some times i did not remove arm from car, some bushes need to have orientation marked to obtain correct fit give it a try
Just make a lot of holes in the rubber with a drill along the bushin tap him and is off. Simple as that. To put a new bushin with your method os easy too.
Nice idea, i use a modified tricket and fit sockets in order to extract anything
That works too :) Thanks for watching.
If you're going to heat these parts you're going to change the temper of the steel!
My first thought.
Also this will not work with bushes that have outer casing on some car you need a press so at the end of the day its worth buying one or a kit for removing or pressing out/in things
Gaz Girl It works on bushings with crowns, after you put them in gasoline for a day or two. The crowns can then be removed by hand, you don't even need a knife. Of course a press works better, but it takes up a lot space and isn't cheap. Most average diy car enthusiasts don't do this type of thing too often. If you do this type of work often enough, then of course a press is justified as you suggest.
For the bushes on my replacement trailing beam, it will be hard to put on to a press. 2 or 3 people may be needed to hold it while the 2nd or 3rd person operates the press
Bushing presses double as bearing presses and fit into a plastic case just like your tools to. Also you can simply rent one from a parts store for a day as well.
If bushing is bigger than these, you can always hacksaw them. Not easy, but not hardest. Pressing new one will be more difficult.
Holy Shit, wait till the end. I'm doing that tonight!
Impressive video sir
So much good information , I have subscribed.
Wow! Tnx!
Is that possible to use the same tool to press in a new one?
You can use a bench vice for the install
Fantastic tips
I will give this a go
Good tip with the fuel if you've got the time.
Awesome idea...thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much the video was what I was looking for
Just use a vice and two sockets. Quicker, cleaner and safer.
Brilliant! Wish i knew this sooner
Excellent method !!
Good trick
Like it. Simple and elegant.
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Thank you kindly for your knowledge and skill as always.
Stay dirty and efficient...
Great tip thank you. Will this work with lower trailing arm bushes, bmw e60?
High five dude!!!
Thanks for the suggestion
thanks 😎 buddy great video s brilliant ideas
this is how they should all be done
Very good. How about installing the new ones ?
A bench vice will do
OK very good, now how do you put the new ones in
Very good
cool way to do it
Came for the bush removal, stayed for the aw11!
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gracias por la información hermano Dios te bendiga
Wow. Thank you very much for posting this video. There's a lot of people out here that will use this. Including me. Cheers.
very clever, thank you for your approach
you also can do it with an impact hammer 😊 piece of cake
If you've got an air hammer, you probably don't need to be watching this video in the first place...
@@dunebasher1971 i thought i could watch wheatever i want on the internet 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😂
thanks for sharing; just a question: you have a video showing how you made engine mounst with polyurethane liquid; you didn't fancy doing the ones you bought (I'm asking since I have not decided yet what I am going to do).
You can't pour suspension bushings. It's possible but it's a hassle and a lot more difficult than engine mounts and it would look ugly most likely. Plus, suspension bushings are really cheap new compared to engine mounts for most cars.
Your puller is in fact a press... a mechanical press instead of a hydraulic press.
It's not. It's called a pitman arm puller. He's using it as a press here, but this isn't what it's meant for. Those arms with the hooks on the end reach around the back side of a pitman arm and pull it off a stationary vehicle. Like this: th-cam.com/video/dJs5iS13DGk/w-d-xo.html EDIT: Linked a better video.
@@henrym.2156 How to remove rubber bushings without a press or burning - suspension episode 5 2:25 until you manage to push out rubber ! :)) how is that pushing out but not without pushing bushing !
Yeah this is kinda useless info..if youre bushings are really worn out you can just cut them out. Then youve got the sleeve to deal with
What about the outer case/race around the bushing?
Thans great tip, worked a treat.
crooooap it only works on ones without metal sleeve
.... just hammer the sleeve out after homie
@@JacobEcret I seen a guy in here very carefully cut the sleeve with sawzall
@@johnpark888 woah, that’s sketch, I probably would just take a flathead and punch it out.
Nice video, but will not work on Jeep JK control-arms.. The rubber is glued with a Bonding-agent inside a metal-sleeve.. The only thing that works is LOTS OF FLAMES!!!!
What brand gear puller was that you used? Wonder if I can get one at the local harbor freight like the one you have? Great work and tips thanks.
It's just a generic made in china gear puller, no brand name on it. Any gear puller that has nice straight arms like this that move in this fashion will work fine. Glad you liked the video and thanks for watching.
Excellent idea. Did you modify the tool?
What about a bushing mounted on a car where you have a limited amount of space to even fit a gear puller. I'm upgrading the rear suspension to my 1965 Mustang and am having troubles with the bushings connecting the car to the shackles of the back of the leaf spring.
An all-rubber bushing can be made weak by using a hole saw to cut out the core.
Question would this work on 05 honda crv upper knuckle bushing? Looks amazing lmk
So how to install a new one.
If you get the 2-piece polyurethane bushings, you just push one piece into each side and put the hollow steel tube through the center. Line up the holes and push the bolt through. The bushings sometimes are just slightly longer than the hole you’re putting them into, so when you tighten the bolt, it compresses the bushings tight. No need for any kind of press. Might need to hammer it in, but that will not take to much effort.
Dude!!!! Brilliant.
How about a video on putting new ones in is it just the opposite way or different?
Installing polyurethane ones is dead simple, you just press them in with your hands or a table vice. Oem ones usually can't be installed like this and are bought as an assembly together with the metal arm, and are already pressed in.