A minor correction and a bit of a fun fact. The original tunnel actually did have switchbacks on the track up to it it! A series of 8 switchbacks lead up to it, and these were in service until the 1929 opening of the lower, and longer tunnel. It's great to have another 3/4ths of an Idiot episode on this channel, and I hope we have many more into the future!
"Cascade Concrete" is still a phenomenon the BNSF dispatchers in Fort Worth don't understand. The rain melts the top layer of snow, creating a dense crust of ice on top of long lasting powder.
@@muddynmonte one of my favorite sets of emails was about a train that left my shop out of interbay... They sent it up the hill with a GP38, and two GP60Bs. Nothing else. Had like, 10,000+ tons behind. They ended up sending two ES44s to go rescue it but it was like "power desk how the hell did you approve this"
21:56 Leighton saying " We should have left this part of the island alone" made me crack up more than it should "have. Good Ol' Thomas the tank engine quote it comes from the episode "Rusty and the Boulder".
This episode has very strong Well There's Your Problem vibes to it. And something tells me it won't be the last time the guys will have to put on brave faces for great rail disasters.
Is anyone else gonna point out Leighton's sick thomas refrence at 21:55? I legitimately rewound the video like "did I imagine that?" but no. It being a season 5 refrence is proof he's cultured as well.
Every single one of these 3/4 Idiot show episodes has been nothing but pure, giddy, stupid fun to watch. The mix of learning cool railroad history, bad railroad jokes, bad jokes in general, and the setting all make for some serious fun. I can't wait for the next episode!
I've alternately heard "only steam" vs "only electric" engines for the distaster, but considering how GN ran the tunnel both makes more sense. I haven't hiked the trail yet but I've been up that way, so I guess I need to do that next summer. Oh, and don't forget to stop by Skykomish (later end of GN Electrics) and see the live steam railroad by the tracks!
mark as someone who has a couple books on this wreck, i have some information that you left out. for starters the trains originally got stuck at cascade tunnel station on the east side of the tunnel, (also the top of the grade is in the middle of the tunnel) where they stayed for about a day before moving to wellington and about a day after that a slide hit the beanery (cook house) at cascade tunnel killing the chef and his assistant, this is the same place where the passengers and crews of the trains ate since a diner was usually picked up farther down the line
One thing is for sure, you guys are the best Hyce. Please keep all video's coming and especially 3/4 of an idiot even though I agree that Brett I half an idiot now XD I cannot express how much I'm looking forward to any video you got lying out there, just waiting to be finished. Yes Titanic was still a dream, not even her keel had been put down in 1910. Extra points to Brett for saying "Oh Sheeep" XD it made me laugh hard. Now this is getting lengthy so, thank you for any great video of you and your best friends who are great. Until next time, Sheep, poorly, ice, rain, snow ha ha.
I really love this series...and y'all's group dynamic. I'd love to see more! May I suggest as a story, the Snowbound Streamliner? The City of San Francisco getting stuck above Emigrant Gap on Donner Pass, and the absolute hell the SP went through to dig it out. by the end there were three cab forwards and four (of the six stationed on Donner) rotaries all snowbound at the site of the train. including one rotary that was on its side. it literally took the last Rotary the Railroad had, which was absolutely murdering one of its bearings and only survived by application of copious amounts of oil, and had a badly banged up firebox that just refused to make steam at times, to dig the line out as far as Emigrant Gap so a rescue train could get up. the book Snowbound Streamliner is a great read on the topic.
More episodes of this series would be great, I have so much fun and also learn a ton about railroading back in the day, if you can Hyce keep it up those are really fun to watch
Theres a great book on the wreck by Gary Krist called The White Cascade, it gives much more back story and witness accounts. A couple of facts: The local passenger train was parked on the east side of the tunnel near Nason Creek for a couple of days. The night after it was moved west to Wellington, an avalanche hit near the east portal where the train had been sitting. The New Cascade Tunnel is accessible, I’ve sat on top of it to eat lunch while trains were running through it. There is a WW2 era tank in Tye stationed for avalanche control - they close Hwy 2 and blast the snowpack above the highway to clear the avalanches! Hit me up next time you’re in Seattle, we’ll take my airplane and you can get a birds-eye view!
it used to be that you could see the steel mounting points for WWI-era French 75 cannons that the GN installed for the same snowfighting purposes too. they were near the big concrete snowshed that got set up after the big avalanche. given how they looked in the 2000s I suspect they've collapsed by now.
I’m one of the many people who asked in your Professor Hyce video what one scrapped locomotive you’d bring back from the dead. You said the Unitah 2-6-6-2T, but I was taking into consideration the museum you work at, so I would also say the Unitah, but the 0-6-2T, which would be more economically feasible to build than a 2-6-6-2T, and would make it more feasible to transport it to other tourist railroads.
This was UNCANNY watching someone else do citation needed. and the humor was danm near identical. You gents are fantastic and this got a subscribe out of me I thinks.
When this was brand new I saw this entire video for the 1st time while waiting to film a passenger train in Port Jervis New York. Seeing this again is a pleasure.
they also could've mitigated the disaster by backing the passenger train into the tunnel but they were concerned ironically with the safety aspect of parking there. I have also been there too, quite the place! i got to go up in the spring and check out the east portal of the old tunnel, i havent seen that yet!
The Cascade passes do not mess around. I lived near White Pass for a few years, and while they're not as tall as a lot of other passes they're quite steep and there is a _lot_ of precipitation in the winter.
Holy cow, I have heard of this. There was some youtube exploration fella that went up there with some friends and found tons of stuff strew across the mountain side. Brett loving sheep and the responses for what is 20 know for were hilarious.
As soon as I heard the name "Stevens Pass" my inner train simulator geek told me clearly *BURLINGTON NORTHERN PREDECESSOR* . Also, if all the rolling stock fell down the ravine, does that mean its all still down there? Again also, around 20:15 you forgot censoring. I still fear the cascade tunnel, why the hell does it need doors?
There were switchbacks on this line, before they built the original tunnel. You can go hiking along the Iron Goat trail and see the old snowsheds along that alignment.
Thanks for the upload. Need some laughs on a sick day. Lot of lessons learned from the Wellington disaster. Took me a while to remember it and I was thinking it was from Hell’s Kitchen. Lololol
After watching this i'm not 100% sure if this should be called 3/4 idiot show but 4/4 idiot show. Didn't noticed any brilliant minds in there.🤣 Besides the traggic story this was really funny
While it is true that these episodes are for the "hardcore" viewers of the channel, I find these story times hilariously funny, so if these were to go away, it would be a very sad loss. I especially love the location it is filmed in too, the steam "choo choo's" add to the atmosphere of the whole ordeal.
Presumably the only locomotives in the disaster were steam, and the electric helpers had gone back through the tunnel before the disaster. GN only had 4 of them at the time (they were super weird 3-phase boxcabs) and they lasted until 1927.
What is your quest?! Haha great job guys, you know those smattering of pop culture I do so love! Pity the shop doesn't have a Number 5 engine. Then when stoking you could say Number 5 is alive! Love steam love history on steam and these are great.
Oh hey, I think I learned about this on the Discovery channel. I think the show was whatever that show with Josh Gates is, for whatever reason. It didn't have to do with exploration, and it had two paranormal experts. I don't know.
Nice topic,. You did get some of the details wrong, and the "idiots" actually got them right. For instance, the electric lines were down due to earlier slides. Both trains coasted downhill through the tunnel to Wellington as the East portal was actually higher than the West. It was thought at the time that Wellington was safer than the East Portal area and in fact a slide came down and killed the people that had been feeding the passengers the day before at East Portal. Ruby Hult did a great book on this and the fires in Idaho of the same year. It is called Northwest Disaster. She used first hand accounts from survivors for much of the details. It's a great read that really humanizes the disasters. The Iron Goat trail follows the old line today with the exception of the tunnels. The large concrete snow shed built after the disaster to put later passengers' minds at ease is still there to see.
Anyone who studies American Railroading would better know this As the Great Wellington disaster/s. As the News Papers reported it as a "Great" Disaster. This stigma also played part by a British Rail Disaster in Wellington around the same time period. And many Accidents happening across the pond in the UK caused Wellington, Washington to much distress due to their own Misfortunes causing the town quickly rename the town. also the Mystery of how many Locos and Cars lost is due to Documentation error the Great Northern had concerning the the Manifests and I think they recovered a few of the Locos which caused Confusion of what was lost and what was actually saved/scrapped.
Hey Mark good video man sure hope you guys can do more Tom Scott soon. Hey I was wondering do you habe videos from Polar Express where you running or firing? Look forward to seeing more videos from you soon. Your friend Jeff aka NW611J.
i found it funny that Molasses was brought up because every time i hear about molasses, i can help thinking about the Great Molasses Flood of 1919 in My fair city, of Boston, MA. to start off with i've never known where the term "slower that molasses" actually comes from, because depending on who you're talking to, they could actually be moving quiet quickly. anyways story time. the date is January 15th 1919, and there was a Distillery called the Purity Distilling Company located in the north end of Boston near Kearny Square, on on this site stood a 50ft tall x 90ft in diameter storage tank which was used to offload Molasses from tanker ships, and from here i would be piped to the Purity ethanol plant in Cambridge which was about 2.5 miles to the west. anyways the day before a ship had arrived with a shipment of molasses which had been warmed to reduce it's viscosity for transfer into the tank, but the contents inside the tank had been at frigid temperatures due to the winter weather, so when the warm molasses was added to the tank it started a chain reaction, of thermal expansion, the warm molasses heating up the cold molasses underneath it, and on the 15th of January this expansion cause the tank to rupture and burst open, letting loose roughly 2.3 million gallons of molasses, which from eye witness account proceeded to flood the streets of the north end of Boston at a speed of up to 35 miles per hour and waves of Molasses up to 25 ft high. and when it had finally subsided the area was left with molasses everywhere which if you were to try and wade through it would be waist high on the average person. the result was catastrophic, the dense molasses sweeping buildings off their foundations and carrying them away in the current, and tipping one street car off the elevated tracks above the street , killing 21 people, injuring another 150, and the smell of molasses can from time to time, still be smelled in the area when the temperature gets hot enough even today. photo of the aftermath: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood#/media/File:BostonMolassesDisaster.jpg
I did hear of this disaster before and seems quite similar to an disaster in Albert where a rock slide took out an entire town along the Canadian Pacific main line in the 1900s. I saw a documentary on this and there was a picture of the rebuilt main line through the Boulder field almost looking like a garden railroad. If you want to know more about it, look up Turtle Mountain, Alberta. Please keep doing these videos but maybe don't give the event away in the title so we have to guess along too and not shouting the correct answer at the screen. :)
@@Hyce777 Dude! Best story of men giving their lives, quite literally, for the railroad! They had crews working 12-20 hour shifts running multiple rotary snowplows just absolutely slogging these drifts. Then they'd find a stump, break the blade, and derail the stupid thing. Evidently they were "self jacking". So out come the hand shovels, and wrenches. Snow flying everywhere. And the plow operator just knew the damn branch pipe came off. So he's crawling around in a spot he by rights should be suffocated out of, putting this branch pipe back on. They've got guys riding the roofs with lanterns. They lost one plow in a drift on an unsuccessful mission to get coal, which they were literally out of. One plow and engine were shut down when they literally went out of fire. The two passenger trains were actually pretty lightly occupied. And just the day of, a large group of passengers started walking down towards scenic (8 miles via the grade.) This was after the entire depot at the east end of the tunnel has been lost. The two trains having been moved West a day before. Many of the dead were Railroad employees just trying to catch a breath. And it was the first time the legal term vis Major was used.
@@muddynmonte I actually just finished reading Martin Burwash's book, which I only found because of this comment section. It's definitely worth a look if you haven't read it already (in general). It's a bit of a dramatization, but the events are all correct: just the dialogue is invented. Let's just say this--when you're actively pulling a 4-6-2 off one of the stalled trains in a desperate attempt to get more power behind the rotaries, it might be time to call it and just snowshoe out.
This was a great video and keep up the 3/4 idiots chaos and maybe I’ll join you guys if I can get a job at the museum within the next year and nice work and today was extremely fun and we did go explore a lot of the museums grounds and at the end mainly stayed around the garden railroad and nice meeting you too because I can’t remember if I said it or not but yeah have a good night running the polar express and cheers
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A minor correction and a bit of a fun fact. The original tunnel actually did have switchbacks on the track up to it it! A series of 8 switchbacks lead up to it, and these were in service until the 1929 opening of the lower, and longer tunnel.
It's great to have another 3/4ths of an Idiot episode on this channel, and I hope we have many more into the future!
What the hell was the GN smoking and can I get some
@@Hyce777 I also want to know so I can have some. Northwestern railroading just hits differently, apparently.
"Cascade Concrete" is still a phenomenon the BNSF dispatchers in Fort Worth don't understand. The rain melts the top layer of snow, creating a dense crust of ice on top of long lasting powder.
@@muddynmonte one of my favorite sets of emails was about a train that left my shop out of interbay... They sent it up the hill with a GP38, and two GP60Bs. Nothing else. Had like, 10,000+ tons behind. They ended up sending two ES44s to go rescue it but it was like "power desk how the hell did you approve this"
@@Hyce777 I'm laughing my ass off! They tried to tell the builder to do a reverse move from scenic to sky!
6:30 The confusion/fear in Brett's voice when he says "Does this have to do with the town unexisting?" just absolutely got me XD
I love how it goes from “okay this wasn’t that bad” to “oh god a lot of people died”
I mean...that's sorta what happened IRL too..,
Sounds like a WTYP episode... Maybe Hyce could guest host with them for one of these
21:56 Leighton saying " We should have left this part of the island alone" made me crack up more than it should "have. Good Ol' Thomas the tank engine quote it comes from the episode "Rusty and the Boulder".
Yasss. got goosebump vibes seeing Gordon’s face in the boulder. Spills and Chills, definitely the scariest video I’ve owned growing up.
This disaster makes Skarloey a very lucky 150-ish year old steam engine in "Snow", gets caught in an avalanche in Season 5 of TTTE.
This episode has very strong Well There's Your Problem vibes to it. And something tells me it won't be the last time the guys will have to put on brave faces for great rail disasters.
The lack of Actionable Threats and anthem drops confused me.
Not enough (yay) Liam or soundboard interruption of the presenter.
I've heard of this via Curious World covering it in an American Railroad Ghost Stories.
"Click the ding-ding"
*should have inserted 491's bell*
Is anyone else gonna point out Leighton's sick thomas refrence at 21:55? I legitimately rewound the video like "did I imagine that?" but no. It being a season 5 refrence is proof he's cultured as well.
a cultured as yogurt bby
Every single one of these 3/4 Idiot show episodes has been nothing but pure, giddy, stupid fun to watch. The mix of learning cool railroad history, bad railroad jokes, bad jokes in general, and the setting all make for some serious fun. I can't wait for the next episode!
25:52 yes, this is what I pay you for
Cheers mate, lmao! Keep it real.
I agree. Take my money magic bird man.
More of these are needed. The interaction between you idiots are great along with the knowledge and stories that you share
Yes! Need more 3/4 of 1 idiot
This was so fun to watch as a Washington resident with knowledge of the story! I have also been to both tunnel portals and the town, spooky af…
I've alternately heard "only steam" vs "only electric" engines for the distaster, but considering how GN ran the tunnel both makes more sense. I haven't hiked the trail yet but I've been up that way, so I guess I need to do that next summer. Oh, and don't forget to stop by Skykomish (later end of GN Electrics) and see the live steam railroad by the tracks!
5:13 you can't just leave it at that, I'm loving this so far
what is 20 good at? leighton: rolling over. love the random quips that everyone has. these always have me laughing
I mean she did kill RGS 40 doing that
mark as someone who has a couple books on this wreck, i have some information that you left out. for starters the trains originally got stuck at cascade tunnel station on the east side of the tunnel, (also the top of the grade is in the middle of the tunnel) where they stayed for about a day before moving to wellington and about a day after that a slide hit the beanery (cook house) at cascade tunnel killing the chef and his assistant, this is the same place where the passengers and crews of the trains ate since a diner was usually picked up farther down the line
Keep up the good work, always a pleasure to see the good chemistry between all four of you.
One thing is for sure, you guys are the best Hyce. Please keep all video's coming and especially 3/4 of an idiot even though I agree that Brett I half an idiot now XD
I cannot express how much I'm looking forward to any video you got lying out there, just waiting to be finished.
Yes Titanic was still a dream, not even her keel had been put down in 1910.
Extra points to Brett for saying "Oh Sheeep" XD it made me laugh hard.
Now this is getting lengthy so, thank you for any great video of you and your best friends who are great. Until next time, Sheep, poorly, ice, rain, snow ha ha.
Cheers as always mate!
I really love this series...and y'all's group dynamic. I'd love to see more!
May I suggest as a story, the Snowbound Streamliner? The City of San Francisco getting stuck above Emigrant Gap on Donner Pass, and the absolute hell the SP went through to dig it out. by the end there were three cab forwards and four (of the six stationed on Donner) rotaries all snowbound at the site of the train. including one rotary that was on its side.
it literally took the last Rotary the Railroad had, which was absolutely murdering one of its bearings and only survived by application of copious amounts of oil, and had a badly banged up firebox that just refused to make steam at times, to dig the line out as far as Emigrant Gap so a rescue train could get up. the book Snowbound Streamliner is a great read on the topic.
Oh my God, yeah that would be a fun one
20:32 Giving No.20 the stink eye
I honestly mostly keep rewatching this just for Leighton's face at 10:14. Very good stuff.
"We'll *train* you one of these times."
Accidental puns are the best kind, Hyce 😆
More episodes of this series would be great, I have so much fun and also learn a ton about railroading back in the day, if you can Hyce keep it up those are really fun to watch
Theres a great book on the wreck by Gary Krist called The White Cascade, it gives much more back story and witness accounts.
A couple of facts:
The local passenger train was parked on the east side of the tunnel near Nason Creek for a couple of days. The night after it was moved west to Wellington, an avalanche hit near the east portal where the train had been sitting.
The New Cascade Tunnel is accessible, I’ve sat on top of it to eat lunch while trains were running through it.
There is a WW2 era tank in Tye stationed for avalanche control - they close Hwy 2 and blast the snowpack above the highway to clear the avalanches!
Hit me up next time you’re in Seattle, we’ll take my airplane and you can get a birds-eye view!
Oh wow, thanks for the info and the offer! That's amazing!
it used to be that you could see the steel mounting points for WWI-era French 75 cannons that the GN installed for the same snowfighting purposes too. they were near the big concrete snowshed that got set up after the big avalanche. given how they looked in the 2000s I suspect they've collapsed by now.
When you asked Brett what RGS 20 does, I half expected him to say "kill Charlie!" This is hilarious. Keep it up!
Got my ES&D coffee mug not too long ago and our railroad club loved it. Highly recommend. Lol
I’m one of the many people who asked in your Professor Hyce video what one scrapped locomotive you’d bring back from the dead. You said the Unitah 2-6-6-2T, but I was taking into consideration the museum you work at, so I would also say the Unitah, but the 0-6-2T, which would be more economically feasible to build than a 2-6-6-2T, and would make it more feasible to transport it to other tourist railroads.
That would be neat!n
This was UNCANNY watching someone else do citation needed. and the humor was danm near identical. You gents are fantastic and this got a subscribe out of me I thinks.
Cheers!
When this was brand new I saw this entire video for the 1st time while waiting to film a passenger train in Port Jervis New York. Seeing this again is a pleasure.
When he said Wellington my mind instantly expected it to be followed by "Paranormal". xD
Best line: "Hundred of people ate deeeaaad" after thinking 'oh this isnt so bad'
LMAO, The Titanic was just a wonderful dream. LOL
they also could've mitigated the disaster by backing the passenger train into the tunnel but they were concerned ironically with the safety aspect of parking there. I have also been there too, quite the place! i got to go up in the spring and check out the east portal of the old tunnel, i havent seen that yet!
The book Vis Major by Martin Burwash is a excellent historical fiction on this subject. Great read for those wanting to deep dive this.
The Cascade passes do not mess around. I lived near White Pass for a few years, and while they're not as tall as a lot of other passes they're quite steep and there is a _lot_ of precipitation in the winter.
To be honest, you all deserve a TV show, please produce more
This is a good series keep it up!
You know after the end of season 4 i now understand how the conductor in the mail car somehow survived rolling a thousand feet down the mountain.
Holy cow, I have heard of this. There was some youtube exploration fella that went up there with some friends and found tons of stuff strew across the mountain side.
Brett loving sheep and the responses for what is 20 know for were hilarious.
You should get that backdated Stevens Pass route for Train Sim so we can visit the town of Wellington virtually.
That exists? I need to check that out!
I'm watching this while trying to build track in RO.
As soon as I heard the name "Stevens Pass" my inner train simulator geek told me clearly *BURLINGTON NORTHERN PREDECESSOR* .
Also, if all the rolling stock fell down the ravine, does that mean its all still down there?
Again also, around 20:15 you forgot censoring.
I still fear the cascade tunnel, why the hell does it need doors?
"bitches" doesn't count as a hard swear by me or TH-cam. Apparently they got cut up after all, based on what the rest of the commenters have said.
@@Hyce777 That's odd, pretty much everywhere I've been it is. Must've sucked to have to go 1000 feet down a ravine to cut entire consists up.
i love this video already and i just started watcching
There were switchbacks on this line, before they built the original tunnel. You can go hiking along the Iron Goat trail and see the old snowsheds along that alignment.
These videos are so much fun! Love the format and the one idiot that you guys form together
We need more of this!
America (at the long tunnel) says to great northern railway “(make bigger tunnel) for your future of BNSF oh wait your weren’t meant to hear that”
Thanks for the upload. Need some laughs on a sick day. Lot of lessons learned from the Wellington disaster. Took me a while to remember it and I was thinking it was from Hell’s Kitchen. Lololol
I swear to god, I love Brett's dad jokes
I always thoroughly enjoy these episodes.
Keep up the good work.
I am so glad you kept the bloopers!🤣
wee bit of a sadder note to end on for this season buuuuut..... MOAAAAAR
After watching this i'm not 100% sure if this should be called 3/4 idiot show but 4/4 idiot show. Didn't noticed any brilliant minds in there.🤣 Besides the traggic story this was really funny
DINKLEBERG!!!!!
I love these guys so much. trying not to cry from laughing
I had a bit of a wellington disaster last year. Needless to say, it was well done.
Get. Out. Lmao
@@Hyce777 No lime?
I'm disappointed.😮💨
@@erumaaro6060 limes, limes for sure
20:38 Durango & Silverton entered the chat
MYSTERY CITRUS!!!!
Speaking of the great northern I'm trying to make a cab for my scratch build of a great northern 2-6-2
While it is true that these episodes are for the "hardcore" viewers of the channel, I find these story times hilariously funny, so if these were to go away, it would be a very sad loss.
I especially love the location it is filmed in too, the steam "choo choo's" add to the atmosphere of the whole ordeal.
We have a ton of fun making them and I laugh my ass off editing them, so they'll keep coming.
You guys should turn this into a podcast
Presumably the only locomotives in the disaster were steam, and the electric helpers had gone back through the tunnel before the disaster. GN only had 4 of them at the time (they were super weird 3-phase boxcabs) and they lasted until 1927.
WOOOOOOOO love these xD. By the way, belated happy Thanksgiving, hope you had a good one all things considered!
What is your quest?!
Haha great job guys, you know those smattering of pop culture I do so love! Pity the shop doesn't have a Number 5 engine. Then when stoking you could say Number 5 is alive!
Love steam love history on steam and these are great.
Oh hey, I think I learned about this on the Discovery channel.
I think the show was whatever that show with Josh Gates is, for whatever reason. It didn't have to do with exploration, and it had two paranormal experts. I don't know.
The disaster that happened only 2 hours from my location. Washington is amazing, change my mind.
I do like these citation needed stories and you should do one of Norfolk and Western 611 class J
Oh boy, he was this close to getting lime-stoned before the game even started...
Not only did I learn about a disaster, I had a great time too
“Wooden train cars always catch on fire” and telescope.
Nice topic,. You did get some of the details wrong, and the "idiots" actually got them right. For instance, the electric lines were down due to earlier slides. Both trains coasted downhill through the tunnel to Wellington as the East portal was actually higher than the West. It was thought at the time that Wellington was safer than the East Portal area and in fact a slide came down and killed the people that had been feeding the passengers the day before at East Portal. Ruby Hult did a great book on this and the fires in Idaho of the same year. It is called Northwest Disaster. She used first hand accounts from survivors for much of the details. It's a great read that really humanizes the disasters. The Iron Goat trail follows the old line today with the exception of the tunnels. The large concrete snow shed built after the disaster to put later passengers' minds at ease is still there to see.
Oh wow, thanks for the additional information!
10:45 uh oh. Eric your not allowed to do that anymore.
Oops…😂 didn’t mean to do that
Love this series!
Make sure to add the video to the playlist, BTW. :P
Oh thanks for letting me know! Didn't realize I missed it.
Hyce do you lve narrow gauge better than the other gauge
I mean, it's all I've really worked with...
Anyone walking into the shop, is probably wondering why there are limes everywhere, not knowing the 3/4 of one idiot was there.
Great Video! Keep this series going!
Please keep this series going
I’m not all the way through the video yet, but I believe I’ve heard this one before and it is brutal
Anyone who studies American Railroading would better know this As the Great Wellington disaster/s. As the News Papers reported it as a "Great" Disaster. This stigma also played part by a British Rail Disaster in Wellington around the same time period. And many Accidents happening across the pond in the UK caused Wellington, Washington to much distress due to their own Misfortunes causing the town quickly rename the town. also the Mystery of how many Locos and Cars lost is due to Documentation error the Great Northern had concerning the the Manifests and I think they recovered a few of the Locos which caused Confusion of what was lost and what was actually saved/scrapped.
Hey Mark good video man sure hope you guys can do more Tom Scott soon. Hey I was wondering do you habe videos from Polar Express where you running or firing? Look forward to seeing more videos from you soon. Your friend Jeff aka NW611J.
Yes sir! Lots of them filmed, I'm just way behind on editing! Lol.
@@Hyce777 cool lol I hear you on the editing. Look forward to seeing more videos man take care and stay safe.
i found it funny that Molasses was brought up because every time i hear about molasses, i can help thinking about the Great Molasses Flood of 1919 in My fair city, of Boston, MA. to start off with i've never known where the term "slower that molasses" actually comes from, because depending on who you're talking to, they could actually be moving quiet quickly.
anyways story time.
the date is January 15th 1919, and there was a Distillery called the Purity Distilling Company located in the north end of Boston near Kearny Square, on on this site stood a 50ft tall x 90ft in diameter storage tank which was used to offload Molasses from tanker ships, and from here i would be piped to the Purity ethanol plant in Cambridge which was about 2.5 miles to the west.
anyways the day before a ship had arrived with a shipment of molasses which had been warmed to reduce it's viscosity for transfer into the tank, but the contents inside the tank had been at frigid temperatures due to the winter weather, so when the warm molasses was added to the tank it started a chain reaction, of thermal expansion, the warm molasses heating up the cold molasses underneath it, and on the 15th of January this expansion cause the tank to rupture and burst open, letting loose roughly 2.3 million gallons of molasses, which from eye witness account proceeded to flood the streets of the north end of Boston at a speed of up to 35 miles per hour and waves of Molasses up to 25 ft high. and when it had finally subsided the area was left with molasses everywhere which if you were to try and wade through it would be waist high on the average person.
the result was catastrophic, the dense molasses sweeping buildings off their foundations and carrying them away in the current, and tipping one street car off the elevated tracks above the street , killing 21 people, injuring another 150, and the smell of molasses can from time to time, still be smelled in the area when the temperature gets hot enough even today.
photo of the aftermath: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood#/media/File:BostonMolassesDisaster.jpg
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Please do more of these. Forever. Until I die. And maybe after that too.
I did hear of this disaster before and seems quite similar to an disaster in Albert where a rock slide took out an entire town along the Canadian Pacific main line in the 1900s. I saw a documentary on this and there was a picture of the rebuilt main line through the Boulder field almost looking like a garden railroad. If you want to know more about it, look up Turtle Mountain, Alberta. Please keep doing these videos but maybe don't give the event away in the title so we have to guess along too and not shouting the correct answer at the screen. :)
I believe that was caused by the same weather system that nailed Wellington actually.
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You should do a Wellington Q&A session with Martin Burwash. He wrote the terrific dramatization of the events with his book Vis Major
That would be awesome! I wasn't able to get much info on it honestly with limited resources on the internet.
@@Hyce777 Dude! Best story of men giving their lives, quite literally, for the railroad! They had crews working 12-20 hour shifts running multiple rotary snowplows just absolutely slogging these drifts. Then they'd find a stump, break the blade, and derail the stupid thing. Evidently they were "self jacking". So out come the hand shovels, and wrenches. Snow flying everywhere. And the plow operator just knew the damn branch pipe came off. So he's crawling around in a spot he by rights should be suffocated out of, putting this branch pipe back on. They've got guys riding the roofs with lanterns. They lost one plow in a drift on an unsuccessful mission to get coal, which they were literally out of. One plow and engine were shut down when they literally went out of fire. The two passenger trains were actually pretty lightly occupied. And just the day of, a large group of passengers started walking down towards scenic (8 miles via the grade.) This was after the entire depot at the east end of the tunnel has been lost. The two trains having been moved West a day before. Many of the dead were Railroad employees just trying to catch a breath. And it was the first time the legal term vis Major was used.
@@muddynmonte oh my goodness
@@Hyce777 they kind of gloss over this at Snoqualmie at their exhibit.
@@muddynmonte I actually just finished reading Martin Burwash's book, which I only found because of this comment section. It's definitely worth a look if you haven't read it already (in general).
It's a bit of a dramatization, but the events are all correct: just the dialogue is invented. Let's just say this--when you're actively pulling a 4-6-2 off one of the stalled trains in a desperate attempt to get more power behind the rotaries, it might be time to call it and just snowshoe out.
This was a great video and keep up the 3/4 idiots chaos and maybe I’ll join you guys if I can get a job at the museum within the next year and nice work and today was extremely fun and we did go explore a lot of the museums grounds and at the end mainly stayed around the garden railroad and nice meeting you too because I can’t remember if I said it or not but yeah have a good night running the polar express and cheers
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Can you do a citation videos on the 1986 Hinton Alberta accident and the 2013 lac Magentic oil train explosion
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Love the videos keep it up
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I have really enjoyed these videos. The y make me laugh please make more of these
Count on it!
yeah you guys need to get together with Well Theres your problem pod cast lol
Funny and laughter love the story very interesting
Cool format done good :)
Looking forward to more quarter idiocy on the channel
We need to schedule the filming!
What was the most recent steam locomotive boiler explosion?
I am not sure!
@@Hyce777 Interesting, I don't know either.
It flashed ‘stay tune for the out takes” I thought this was the out takes.
If you think molasses is slow, you should look up the Boston molasses flood.