Sonic's Bad Omen (Critiquing Sonic Omens)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- Sonic Omens is the new big fan game out now, but is it any good? Not really. Here's why!
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Awesome Video
Oman? Omen lol
The logo in the thumbnail says Sonic Oman This Is Bad.
Hey um not to sound rude or anything but you are aware that they have changed the patreon since 2020 and now it's for their original projects and not for omens.
Again not trying to be rude or anything just thought I should let you know.
@@GottaBeFrank ok
The title of this video predicted an actual line in the game 💀💀
Yes and I hate that lmao
@@GottaBeFrank i loved when sonic said “it’s omenin’ time” and proceeded to omen all over the place
Now imagine if that was a Nintendo Fangame with a Patreon... HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOI!
It wouldn't even see a demo release.
@@GottaBeFrank lol
Notice how not even one doesn't exist. That is the power of Nintendo's copyright
Nintendo would’ve sent SWAT teams if that happened lol
creators should be able to profit from works that they dont have the copyright for
Although it clearly has a few bugs, I see a lot of potential with his fan game.
Me too, but if it's going to continue to be poorly optimized, then I will see it as wasted potential.
@@GottaBeFrank shut up
Future update. It lost that potential
@@noi2048 yeah
@@GottaBeFrank this aged well
Well, if it has an abundance of glitches, then it really is a true modern Sonic game!
I kid, I kid. Seriously though, I find it annoying how it seems like if you show a fangame with good presentation people will automatically believe it's a godsend, forgoing the level design, optimization, mechanics, etc...
It’s almost like a lot of the Frontiers hate comes from people just not feeling the “Sonic vibes”!
I mean at the end it is a fan game, the bar is much lower
go play sonic generations, then we will see what you think about this "true modern sonic game"
Another thing is that people who praise sonic omens haven't played it. They just think that it looks nice and praise it as a good game. I'm not saying this game looks bad. It looks beautiful but it shouldn't have a huge factor on the quality
Style over substance. Unfortunately modern mainstream culture doesn't exactly incentivize looking deeper than the surface level of things, and what you're told to think. Many people just eat it up and can't understand how people see flaws in something they see as perfect.
Wow, that guy playing the tree level was pretty damn good
Yes. It's great that he has a TH-cam channel that we should subscribe to.
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@@GottaBeFrank do u know where twip is??
SEGA, HIRE THIS MAN, SEGA, HIRE THIS MANNNNNNNNN. HES USING UNREAL ENGINE IN ANY WAY HE CAN
I remember playing Sonic 2020 thinking it looked cool, and then the game ran like absolute trash on my PC without heavily downgrading the graphics, and the second level of that particular demo was absolutely abysmal, and I gave up.
The people that are praising this like it’s the best Sonic game ever made either have never played it, or only played the first two levels, which admittingly look decent.
(This part of the comment was edited to correct myself)
Given the whole Patreon thing for this game, this is one of the few fan games I’m a bit harsh on, even if it’s a fan project.
Hang on. It's not that the game is behind a paywall. Its development is backed by a Patreon page, along with two other titles.
@@GottaBeFrank Oh sorry my bad, I should've rephrased that.
The game itself isn't behind a paywall, but I think I've heard in the past that certain demos have been behind certain tiers? I could be wrong.
But yeah I apologize, the game itself isn't locked behind a paywall, it's just funded by Patreon.
Yeah. It's still pretty sketchy.
Someone play the loop of Spinel saying she's heard the story over and over again.
This is the best comment I've seen and it's only the second one I've seen
Ironic how both fandoms are just stand
@@Chaos_867 I'm not a stan, I just genuinely like the game. It's about as close to my dream Sonic game as I'll get. A Boost-Adventure Hybrid, fun levels, a Shadow with chaos abilities, the ability to control the Tornado, a story with a tone and dialogue similar to Unleashed and Adventure 1/2, beautiful AAA visuals, a Shonen styled voice cast and while not my ideal soundtrack, I still like the music, especially Wellspring and Waterfall Chase
@@gamingwithdream2005 🤓
3D fan games never really amaze me outside of a tech demo. I always find especially in omens they recreate a lot of problems people have had with Sonic 3D games for years. Instant kills. Boost level design. Fall pits.
maybe try utopia, doesn't have any of those specific problems and can be a fun playground
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 regardless what your definition of what a game is, the expirence of playing whatever you call sonic utopia has none of the three issues he claimed stop him from enjoying omens, and therefore i presented him with the option
@@greenhillnerdnew8148 Utopia is a tech demo, can you not read?
@@princenobody5595 yes, it is, and?
@@princenobody5595
You bloody little putz.
The game shouldn’t really be overhyped because that’s just a bad impression when you actually play it and is unhealthy for the community.
the community was already unhealthy
Thats true, the games just alright
Sadly, there will always be a game that's hyped up to that point.
Sonic fans have a reputation for hyping up and praising games that don't deserve that much praise. Take Sonic CD for example. I like the game, but people just kept putting the game on such an unnecessarily high pedestal when the game at its best was just a 7.5/10. And then people actually started playing the game and realized that it's not even close to being a masterpiece.
@@thefastcommenter7774 Huh, I forgot that I ever said this. But anyways, I'm just gonna go and give my current two cents on all the topics you mentioned.
Level design: I think Sonic CDs level design is a mixed bag. On one hand, I'd say there are some genuinely enjoyable levels, like Palmtree Panic, Tidal Tempest, Quartz Quadrant, and heck, I'd even say Metallic Madness is one of Sonic's better final levels. None of these levels are "amazing" and they do have their share of questionable object placements, but for what they're worth, I can enjoy them. But on the other hand, I really don't like Wacky Workbench or Stardust Speedway. They're simply too random and annoying.
Bosses: I'm gonna agree with you here. I appreciate the creativity of the bosses, but they're objectively bad.
Time travel: You can disagree with me on this by all means, but I don't think time traveling in Sonic CD is difficult. Most levels have a ton of scattered freebies that allow you to time travel with ease. (For a universal example, if you locate an upwards spring, then you can release a spin dash, jump onto that spring, and continuously bounce on it, and boom, you can time travel that way, because you technically never lost the momentum of the spin dash while you were bouncing.) Once you understand what the game defines as "maintaining your momentum", and memorize the level designs themselves, time travel can be a breeze. Now, finding the robot generators in the past? THAT'S the difficult part. And overall, the actual reward for all your efforts isn't really worth it. But hey, the gimmick itself is made to be optional for a reason.
Welp, that was a long comment, but overall Sonic CD is a mixed bag of a game for me that I don't ever see myself calling a masterpiece any time soon. I'd still give it around a 7/10 to a 7.5/10, but I totally understand why some people, like you, would rate it lower. One's opinion on CD completely revolves around what you want out of a 2D Sonic game and what you're able to tolerate, and that's different for everybody.
If they just did what worked on the first two or three levels for every level, this could probably be the best sonic fangame of all time
Yeah. Those first three levels were the best parts of the game.
How many official Sonic games have you played?
@@GottaBeFrank Finished: Sonic 1(2x), Sonic 2, Sonic3&K(2x), Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Adventure: DX(2x), Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Riders(3x), Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Lost World, Sonic Generations(2x), Sonic CD, Sonic Forces.
Played but I didn't finish them: Sonic Advance, Sonic Flickies Island, Sonic Spinball, Sonic All-Stars Racing: Transformed, Sonic&SEGA All-Stars Racing, Sonic '06, Dr.Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine...
I mean Sonic Omens is what I was looking for I quite enjoyed it and I didn't have any problems with the levels...
And remove the Patreon
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 sonic omens fanboy
I think the flaws are caused by most of the levels only being set pieces instead of actual level
Well God of War is like 80% set pieces and that is a brilliant series.
@@BruceWayne-fj9bm Sonic and God of War are no where near comparable
Style over substance.
Me:-points out the scam he’s doing
My friends:ITS STILL THE BEST SONIC GAME
Me:*face palms*
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 smh my head
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 That's you,buddy
Get different friends.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Found @ Emerald Person 's friend right here!
HE'S USING UNREAL ENGINE IN ANY WAY HE CAN
People are actually saying it is better than anything Sega has ever made, anyway it is a impressive fangame but it is kind of annoying
I think if it wasn’t for the engine I think it wouldn’t be better than Anything SEGA Made
I also agree with it being annoying, plus I don’t even play Fan Games anymore besides SRB2
@@secoTheSonicFan This fangame at its best has levels better than Forces, at its worst it has the tree stage and that stage is worse than any stage Sega has ever made
The "better than official" comments are the ones that get pretty old to hear, time after time. Sure, it can look impressive, but I doubt it can be consistent throughout.
Pretty things doesn't always equal good games.
I mean some triple A games has proof (cough last of us 2 cough)
@@ihopkins4life the point is Sega is a million dollar company with multiple minds at work...Omens with only a select few with unreal engine just like every company is using right now...is the first TYPE of fan gsme with that level of play which super exceeds a lot of previous title & has more replay value than sonic forces...so what kind of rubbish you talking about?
In no way should we be even beating them at anything with that much brain power & main power. Take the bitterness out your mouth yo
I actually really enjoyed this fan game, and I absolutely loved how it controlled and felt, however I did have a lot of issues with the camera and with the e-dragoon boss, as I couldn't target robots offscreen and I couldn't move the camera lol
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 it's well optimized for controllers and I find it much more comfortable, I don't struggle with any other part of it, but I couldn't move the camera regardless of control scheme (as in controller or KB/Mouse)
I got bored of omens and deleted it. I’m sorry but I just don’t see the hype or why it’s referred to as “The best sonic fan game” it’s...ok, but it’s far from best. (Well that and the fact I’m waiting for levels for the most recent Infinity engine +)
I don't get it either. That's the problem with hype.
This happens with every new 3d sonic fangame using the unreal graphics engine and whatever the latest hottest physics engine is. The difference being this time lots of people are actually calling out how unbelievably unpolished it is.
Those peoples calling it the best sonic fan game never actually played it, there are games much better and can run even on my potato laptop like Sonic Robo Blast 2 or Sonic GT (I have to lower the graphic settings to the lowest for an acceptable framerate in Sonic GT) if anyone tells me i'm wrong for saying Sonic Omen is bad because I forgot about the fact that Sonic Omens uses the infinity engine and the infinity engine is based off the boost formula then I know I shouldn't be including mods for another fan game but I don't care, SRB2 have a Modern Sonic mod and it got Double jump, Light Dash, Wall kick, Slide, Stomp and most importantly, the Boost.
FAX
Well this video aged like a nice tasting fine wine
Why have an airplane section that's tight snake intestine corridors? its should be no surprise that it's going to suck.
*+SkyTech RTS* The plane levels' design should've been more of a rail shooter like Star Fox 64 3D or even Sonic Adventure 1's Tornado sections. As they are now, the plane is so clunky to control and the tight corridors and erratic wind patterns make matters worse. Omens is just full of design choices I despise.
It will forever confuse me how Bolt thought it would be a brilliant idea to implement the boost formula, which is essentially a glorified racing game at its core, into level design like Tree Palace and Moldy Jungle, which involve platforming, beat-em-up, exploration and puzzle-solving elements. It's seriously some of the most chaotic and unfocused game design I've ever seen.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Of course it isn't a "traditional boost game". It's a chaotic mess of a game that can't decide what it wants to be because the controls and level design are constantly at complete odds with each other. Also, how is the boost meant to serve as a "secondary ability" when Sonic has stiff controls, tank-like physics, moves fast and is specifically designed to boost in the first place? Seems more like it's his primary ability rather than secondary since his overall physics and controls are centered around that ability. Not only are there sections in specific levels where there are long stretches of nothing, which practically beg for you to boost, there's even Waterfall Chase, where you actively have to boost or else you die. The boost is clearly not "secondary" in that case then.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 If you've bothered to read my comments, you would know why I have the impression that I have. That's your prerogative on having no problems with any discrepancies between the controls and level design. They are however a major game design flaw to me since I pay close attention to things like that in a video game. For starters, this "good mixture" you're talking about is hardly a "mixture" when levels like Tree Palace and Moldy Jungle involve platforming, exploration, beat-em-up and puzzle-solving elements that actively stand out in scattered parts of the levels while Sonic still controls like a race car instead of a platforner. It leads to unfocused and counterintuitive game design. The one level that I find best complements Sonic's gameplay and physics is Waterfall Chase since that level actually takes full advantage of Sonic's boost gameplay. The level design in Waterfall Chase further has focus and makes the boost gameplay feel right at home with its streamlined, racetrack level design. You're racing to the goal ring as quick as possible and trying to find the quickest routes while dodging obstacles. A lot of the other levels fail to ever achieve that kind of focus and emphasize Sonic's boost gameplay effectively. The same applies to the boss fights where Sonic/Shadow is stuck in an arena fighting the boss while hardly having the boost gameplay utilized properly. Sonic/Shadow still moves like a tank and lacks fluidity in his movements.
Whether the boost is weaker than in the modern games or not, that still doesn't help out with Sonic's overall control and physics. He still feels stiff to control and lacks fluidity in his movements. Whether the boost is mapped to a trigger button or face button or is used in various ways to cheese through platforming sections, that still doesn't solve the problem with the discrepancies I'm talking about. It makes those issues glaring to me since I realize that the boost formula doesn't suit a lot of the level design when it involves platforming. What you described in terms of being able to use the boost to skip platforming sections outright adds more weight to my issue with the level design being at odds with the controls. The boost can either make platforming insignificant or a chore to go through because of the boost formula's emphasis on speed-racing. Either way, I find that to be a huge problem.
Being able to boost through stages other than Waterfall Chase without a care in the world is further not an issue of mine since the level design in a lot of the levels actively has me slowing myself down to begin with in order to explore, solve puzzles, platform, or defeat enemies. In level design like that, I avoid mindlessly going fast. That still however ends up making me question the point of the boost gameplay in Omens since the level design in a lot of the levels actively encourages me to explore and take my time. Removing the boost would make better sense since the Adventure formula is where Sonic controls like an actual platformer and moves at a reasonable speed for platforming, puzzle-solving and beat-em-up elements, so he's not broken or out of place.
My problems with Omens have little to do with any expectations on the game being like Unleashed or Generations and more to do with me expecting reasonable game design. By playing the game as thoroughly as I did multiple times and exploring the mechanics, that's how I'm able to discover and point the discrepancies between the level design and controls in the first place and be left a bad impression on the game. Your assumption that I'm not exploring all the mechanics is beyond foolish on your part and goes to show how hopelessly adamant you are on trying to defend the game from people who don't like the game as much as you do. We won't be seeing eye to eye when I already have a negative opinion on this game and don't like a lot of its design choices. You can like what you like, but kindly piss off with your excuses and assumptions since all you're trying to do is change people's minds on the game and that's pretty disgusting and desperate on your part.
@@BrokenAce1295 who hurt you?
Exactly.
that was my biggest issue and the primary turn off towards this project.
actual video game platforming and boost nonsense just don't mix.
@@pixelbit0897 Nobody, its called regular criticism.
get a grip.
It's almost like Sonic Omens is a plan to kill off Sonic fangames.
Thankfully it wont do that, but it will make Sega more aware of stuff like this.
@@GottaBeFrank True.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572
But how?
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Nah Sonic Robo Blast 2 is better if not the best. Multiplayer is very fun I played SRB2 with my brother we have a BLAST getting through levels.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Sure sure whatever. Go argue with my brother. I can't be bothered to argue with you anymore. Always saying Omens is the best Sonic game of all time without playing other Sonic Games.
Edit: He can't even bother either. He's done with your behavior.
For tails’ levels I’d say a deflector shield if they don’t want to move the lazer enemies or a move up and down button would help a lot.
11:05
“Sage”
After watching the new Nintendo direct for sonic frontiers and the new villains name this line has aged well
I’m surprised nobody has lewded Sage yet, usually people are quick on the draw for… anything.
@@brawler5760 probably because she’s a loli or atleast has a loli build
@@dripstache6583 Fair enough.
@@brawler5760plus she was only revealed for 1 week and the game didn’t even release yet
@@dripstache6583 Back when the new Kirby game was announced people were very much so quick to draw lewds of her though.
It's overhyped.
Yeah, it is.
@@GottaBeFrank indeed
@@234SuperSimi It's overrated too.
@@tiruliru1189 yep indeed
oh no shadow sounds like his gonna say lord freezia
I mean its a demo and not a complete thing. The potential is definitely there. Imo the flaws definitely can be fixed. But what we got as a demo imo is way better than what we got officially in the past decade.
But i cant defend the patreon practices they are doing.
They dont own the sonic ip and it could get sega to become way more strict.
Just because _"it's a demo,"_ it doesn't mean this fangame is free from criticism. Even the airplane section felt like a slap in the face.
2010s has been a terrible decade for Sonic though (excluding Colors, Generations, Mania, Lego Dimensions and SASASR games).
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 And guess what? The developers behind the Omens still lost me!
The fact that it's a demo alone is more than enough reason to give criticism. This excuse is pathetic and stupid, stop using it
As Dunkey once said "Nitpicking and biased, I win, Bye Bye"
This comment is obviously a joke, I totally agree with KC3&K
So... I win, right?
Just thought I should mention that Dunkey is a detractor of the 3D games. Watch his Mania video.
I do agree with everything in this video, but I would like to point out that you can use Shadow's chaos dash very effectively by pressing the dash button to dash forward and by holding jump and pressing the button, you dash upward.
That's all.
Jesus even fans seem to like recycling old bosses. I'm assuming the state of the Egg Dragoon in this game is a metaphor for how overused it is.
(major rant below)
As a side note, I'm a bit puzzled with Sonic fans. I think the entire fanbase is just borderline picky. We haven't had a fully brand spanking new game since 2017 (not counting Team Racing or mobile spinoffs) and I'm starting to see why. After the backlash of Force (which was perfectly justified) it's clear SEGA has no idea what to do with the franchise. Giving into fan's requests and feedback could lead to another 2005 (Shadow the Hedgehog game) incident, but at the same time, SEGA's own ideas are becoming utter shite or simply becoming outdated (nobody cares for the Wisps nor will Nostalgia be enough to carry the franchise). Another thing that pisses me off is when fans tend to make the same mistakes SEGA does (reusing old stage themes or even making use of gimmicks that were widely disliked when SEGA made use of them) it gets instant praise. Now I'm not saying there isn't any fully original Sonic fangames (I'm aware there is plenty of fresh ideas) but for the ones that are original, many fans blatantly ignore the issues it has in favor for the presentation or certain gameplay elements. And even worse, have the nerve to call out SEGA telling them to "take notes" on ideas SEGA themselves attempted.
Keep in mind that I too am frustrated when SEGA take the easy route and don't put effort into a game (Sonic Forces), but even then it doesn't look like the fans could do much better. I honestly think fans can just as easily make the same mistakes as SEGA without even realizing it. I just wish Sonic had proper leadership similar to how Miyamoto (and other various teams at Nintendo) guides Mario and Zelda. The way I see it, SEGA doesn't know what's best for Sonic and the fans don't know what's best for Sonic.
At the end of this very long rant I wanted to conclude with this. I'm glad someone like Knuckles here isn't just blindly praising this game purely because it isn't like Forces. Not to diss on anyone who truly enjoys this game, if you truly think this game is what the next big game for Sonic should be, by all means, enjoy it. I personally see great potential in this fangame. But I just don't think it's enough to prove fans know better than SEGA. If anything, they just know how to expand on what SEGA has already given us in the past.
Can't wait for the final boss to be the 4th Nega Wisp Armor Clone
I agree honestly I don’t like how people think fans actually know better sometimes they do but most of them carry off from sega
This makes the flash games I played growing up seem like Neir Automata
@@AkameGaKillfan777 yet Mario's missions are always the same with, "The Princess is kidnapped by the Villain and the Hero must save her". That's the premise of every Mario game and Mario always uses the same worlds.
@@masterofgamesbrian7058 2D Mario yes, but the level themes and design in the 3D games are much more diverse and creative
This is mediocre, here I thought it would be nostalgic but all my excitement has turned into disappointment. Very well explained, now that I’ve watched this fully I won’t be trying it out anytime soon.
I agree
Whoa, how did you comment this 21 hours ago when it was posted a few minutes earlier?
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My biggest issue is how glossy the eyes are on every character. They look like glass. It's unsettling.
My biggest issue is that this game looks like every generic UE4 asset flip ever. Oh, and also the trash level design.
one of my fav sonic fan games is "sonic revert" it's basically sonic R so a potato can run it; it also controls pretty well (you can play as knuckles too).
Sonic omens fans: sees a video critiquing omens
Literally makes a hate comment and probably didn't even watch the full video or read the full comment on the video
Aggressively facepalms after reading comment.
absolute state of having an opinion online
Egg Dragoon E Zero is fucking awesome, the only issue is that Sonic doesn't have a very long invincibility period after being hit, and that like most platformers, you also take touch damage- enemies will harm you even if they're literally just vibing. So couple this with E Zero's speed and massive size, and yeah I got stuck behind it once it went into it's vulnerability state and died like 6 ways that time.
Yeah. Some adjustments could be done to make it less punishing, for that early in the game, then it would be better.
-bugs everywhere
yep, modern sonic game time baby
I never really bothered with 3D Sonic fangames besides SRB2 and Sonic World (DX looks incredible considering the outdated engine World was originally made in) but when this fangame appeared out of nowhere and tons of people started praising it I was a little suspicious and the way the Patreon was organized made me even more suspicious
i have a gaming laptop which should be able to run this game perfectly but most of the time it doesn't even open and when it does, the resolution glitches like crazy, flashing between two different sizes. when i eventually get it to work, sometimes the buttons on the menu don't do anything :/ i got stuck on the plane stages and gave up after that lmao
Its probably not optimized well
They actually referenced this video in their last development update video and said they were reworking the game . That gives me hope!
Yeah... I noticed. It wasn't the only thing I criticized, but it's good that they are listening to the feedback of everyone.
Wow. Thank you for this video.
When I first saw 2020, watched videos of it and loved it. Always wanted it.
When I finally got omens, I just walking in the game blinded by the spectacular graphics. I went so far to see them I sacrificed my playable framerate (the fact that I could even play the game still baffles me today) and just automatically assumed the game was a godsend.
I saw the thumbnail and title, and just blindly clicked ready shout, scream, piss about.
After listening, and replaying the game... I can honestly agree. I've just recently uninstalled the game due to how boring it is and the glitches and quirks of the engine that can make it unfun and unplayable. Doesn't matter how good it looks, or how it's presented, or how fun people claim it to be. If you don't like it, then what's the point of keeping it in the first place?
Tree Palace took me an hour to complete.
I can beat the entirety of Sonic CD in that much time.
You could beat all of Sonic Generation's Act 2 Stages in that time if you speedrun it
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the lip-sync animations. They look terrible, way too animated too quickly and sharply.
Contrasted by the generic UE4 lighting, it just makes the game a little worse than it already does.
As yes! Graphics!!!!! Omg best sonic fan game lmao SEGA hire these people!!! 🙃
@@leonardoalvarenga7572
I had enough
After Lost World and Forces, this Fan game exceeds any recent modern Sonic game. It may not be perfect, but it a great game for a fan project. Nice graphics are not the reason I say I enjoy this. I hope Sonic Team learns from this and make decent games from now on.
@@lks19 the other games are recent and beside there in a loop bad game greater game bad game greater game not greater than last game maybe there might be remaking sonic adventure
@@lks19 and forces was decent and why would the sonic team need to learn it when they are better there just lazy maybe real lazy sonic forces prove the lazy part
@@theimperfectgod7140 they are overhyping it and also 3rd comment
I personally wasn't disappointed, because I didn't come into this expecting some flawless masterpiece. I mean...it's just a fan game after all, I just enjoyed it for what it was.
Edit: Don't mistake this for me defending what the creator did on patreon, I also don't support what he did.
I get it. It starts off as promising, but then the older content comes back and the quality plummets.
@@GottaBeFrank still a demo like give it time to be worked on yall act like game development is fast.
Yea, it has some bugs, and the Patreon stuff is just screwed up, there's room to improve for sure, however, that's the first sonic game that warmed my heart since unleashed, multiple routes through the level, high speed action, somewhat decent storyline, it just feels like an 3D sonic game, after a really long time
I would like to see more levels like the 3 I mentioned.
Love that thumbnail lol.
Thanks!
*oman indeed*
IGN and the rest of the sonic bandwagoners:SONIC 06 IS THE MOST GLITCHIEST SONIC GAME
Sonic omens creator:i can do better
Yeah. I've never spun at 1 million RPM after breaking the movement of Sonic 06.
I'm just waiting for Sonic Studio to come out, that fangame looks so good. Its a Mario Maker Styled game and will probably make the list for Top Sonic Fangames.
Look at this then look at frontiers it may be a buggy mess but at least this has some actual character to it the only reason people are happy and get excited about this is because sega itself is not truly delivering the experience people want from sonic games so when something comes around and gets the basic look and feel right it comes across way better then it is.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 ill have to go back to it then
the first boss fight reminds me of why i hate the idea of touching the enemy damaging you. Many a times i went in for a hit and i ended up getting hit due to the weak spot closing too soon. Or because homing attack prompt did not appear and i landed on its little tail thing.
Thank you for talking about this. Sonic Omens is WAY overhyped and the Patreon bs is an issue to be concerned about.
ITS NOT LIKE THEY'RE FORCING YOU TO PAY! WHAT THE FUCK? Earth is messed up now.
@@certifiedsonicfansince2016 You don't get the point. Just because it's an option, doesn't mean we can ignore that it's THERE. They even put it in the credits and have a folder of the game's progress on their Patreon, so it's associated with the game and is a issue regardless.
@@certifiedsonicfansince2016 Its still wrong and illegal to make money off of Sega's IP, optional or not.
@@certifiedsonicfansince2016 Oh yes like making it optional will make things any better.
@@StellarStardust i'm wondering if the creator was notified about the issue with the patreon, will he delete it, or did he already do it?
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PS: Shadow SPEEN
SPEEEN!
SPEEN!
Vinny would be proud.
In my opinion, the infinity engine would be great for an actual boost game, unfortunately every game using it is pretty bad, but the engine itself controls well. It’s just not meant to be placed in places like crisis city
The person they got to voice Shadow sounds like Brian Drummond’s Vegeta but with a foreign accent.
KC3&K: But with all due respect, the rest of the characters need retakes
Me: I agree.
There were some good positives and not every fan is going to be impressed with it, so by all means, try things out for yourselves, people. That's how it goes with any game.
It isn't against the law for people who make fan games to have a Patreon for OTHER things, but gaining money FOR the project itself is wrong. I hope the developers see all the criticism of this and why it's a serious matter and why it may be damaging for future projects and events.
honestly I had no issue with the game itself and I liked it. I think The problem of this game is that it can't fit every player due to their way of playing the game. In my case it was pretty smooth, I really enjoyed it, especially speed running the game is so much fun I can't wait for the next chapters
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 it is just that usually in sonic games u don't have that much of free moves and that can confuse a lot of players who expected a gameplay more "assisted"
Welp, the final major update came out and it's a complete trainwreck.
Level design still hasn't changed to fit the engine, resulting in some stages feeling/looking like prototype stages without much guidance for the player in some area.
The voice acting is somehow even worse than the demos that have been played here on TH-cam thanks to the heavy accents that are barely disguised and poor impersonations of the adventure/4Kids cast (the less said about the piss poor attempt to mimic Chip's voice the better).
The textures for Maria Robotnik contain graphics for red panties that say "Bad Girl" on them even though Maria is canonically a child (her real age is unknown even to this day) and even though the textures in question cannot be seen during gameplay under normal circumstances is still *very* creepy.
The entire game just looks like it was made to be a cash grab (which is ironic given what SEGA's been doing with Sonic lately) and the shady shit involving locking content related to Sonic Oman via Patron just gets worse the more you dig into things.
At numerous points during the game's history developers would bad mouth others on the team, be it voice actors, other devs, other Sonic TH-camrs or even abuse their status just to give themselves a "cleaner" image by blocking content creators who give their honest opinions rather than lie to their audience. Once the final update happened the voice actor for Eggman was struggling with the Maria fight during a live stream and eventually rage-quitted and had a mental breakdown while the devs were there gloating.
Can never understand why folks want to support people who would rather make others suffer and enjoy causing harm to minors in some capacity rather than supporting folks who just make content without any alternative motives.
Y’know, I’d actually rather play Sega’s cash grab titles than this spitefully-made garbage.
people that actively defend this pile of garbo probably haven’t played many games outside the sonic franchise.
@@wtfarethesehandles I've been with the Franchise since i was 4 (im 20 now lol) And i can Confidently say that i'd much rather play 06 then Omens
i would recommend sonic world. it has shit tons of issues but it has tons of mods, tons of content, and has amazing controls. its the only fangame that I go back to.
(also i keep my expectations for fangames a lot lower than most other games)
Sonic world is actually pretty good though you are correct that it has a bunch of bugs (kind of like the games its based on) still better than Omen's schlock.
@SkyTech RTS Wait Sonic Heroes has a lot of bugs? Yeah it has some clunk but not that many bugs.
Bro's positive reviews didn't even last two minutes 💀that's just how bad this game is
It’s even worse now.
SAGE banned Sonic Omens. Yay!!!.
Yeah. It's good that they stay away from something like this.
Thankfully
Thank Christ,the mere existence of the game would cause a lot of problems.
No matter how many Sonic fans say that Sonic omens is bad, I am never going to agree that anything could be anymore badder than Sonic 06 and Sonic the hedgehog 4 epidsode 1 & 2. But in all respect to any people who get really angry at people who say that a sonic game that they like is bad, we all dont mean any disrespect to the game we criticise. Were just asking for improvements to help with some of the issues that can effect the gameplay and make it unplayable. So in conclusion we all show respect for the games out there, we just ask to the devs to make the game a littke better and make it fun for everyone! just dont harrass the devs and disrepct them or tell people not to play a game where the people you say not to play it could actually really love it!
Running on a massively outdated PC that hit below the recommended requirements, as of December 2021, I think optimisation issues have been remedied. Don't get me wrong my PC js no slouch but its old now (i7 920, GTX 960 2GB, 16GB DDR3 running at 1066Mhz) but the game runs fine on max settings at 1360x768 (60FPS) and 1080p (Locked it to 30FPS and it felt and looked better than forces). Also the Dragoon fight didn't seem too hard in my eyes but I had just finished SA1 again a few days prior so I may have been in that frame of mind for it to be of reasonable difficulty. I am excited to see its game in its fully finished, polished form. Also regarding the launch issues, I too couldn't launch the game initially but uninstalling and reinstalling the game fixed this, wouldn't put this as a detriment to this one game in particular though since I've had triple A quality games do this. Just hoping the game will he more like the first 2 or 3 levels in terms of polish and style as it would make the game so much more enjoyable
I shared most of your critique up until the 1st Shadow boss fight, the game crashed and refuse to launch since then, which was in late May, now every time I decided to boot up the game, it either crashes my entire PC and *forces* (eh?) me to restart.
Just played the game and I have to disagree and I'm not really a huge Sonic guy but the game was really fun and I liked it. It gave me a feeling other Sonic games did whilst adding something new as well. Even though the boss fights were rough. I'm honestly used to that in these games at this point. But yeah boss fights could use some work as well as the obvious sonic game problems and other problems with this game. But this game was pretty fun.
Facts🔥💯
Just played this for the first time today, and yeah, the first 3 levels, were absolutely great. Then the tornado levels sttarted, and then it just started coming down. if they could just redo the old levels over again, and improve on what makes the current 3 first levels so good, and do that for the old content, this fangame could end up pretty good. but right now, it's just painful after you play the new content, and then the old content shows up, and then optimization and level design has a sudden sharp dive. I still had my fun with it though, and hope it does improve as time goes. but that patreon stuff, that's just appalling. The levels in tails' Tornado could've been so much better if the camera was adjust further away, or better yet, not design a whole level behind it and just do something else. but yeah no, i can't even begin to shut up about that optimization. currently on a different PC as im trying to fix some stuff with it, so in the mean time, im also gaming on it currently. has an i5 4460, 16gb ram and a GTX 1060 6gb, basically similar to your laptop as of this video. and i have to turn res scale to what looks like 75% to get decent frames. Although turning down shadows and res scale seemed to do enough. as i didn't wanna destroy the visual flare that the game initially had. but then again, the whole visual design after the first 3 levels seems to go down anyways. I mean, it's not as bad as half the UDK Sonic fan games that look like surf maps from CS:GO. 2D sonic fangames have a much better footing honestly. it just seems like 3D sonic fan games just always have something major going against it in some way.
in my opinion... any and all tornado levels should be autoscrollers. Like sky chase in sonic adventure.
I don’t like on rails sections, like… at all. But for a Sonic game that would be much better than tryna copy Star Fox.
If they like something like this, then it makes me wonder what fan games they hate.
*Starts having flashbacks of those fan games Vinny played that were made in the 2000s using Game Factory*
I feel like people are very cocky once it comes to this game,they judge it by graphics,dont notice the flaws,and continue goating it,and will start an argument if someone says one bad thing about it.
U literally just saw a person say you gotta admit it's atleast kinda good and this youtuber just say it really isn't. So it goes both ways actually
@@googs_forever "you gotta admit it's atleast kinda good"
No, No i dont. I've played several 3D sonic fangames. Omens is at the Bottom of that List.
Sonic GDK, Project 06, SRB2, Sonic World DX. All are Better 3D Sonic fan games then Omens atleast in my Opinion
I don't want to sound mean but I found more glitches in Omens then in Sonic 06!!!!!
the motion blur here is making me actually nauseous, jesus.
I'm so sick of mediocre sonic fan games man i just want a good sonic game
Sonic after the sequel omega : am I a joke to you?
Me:yes
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 list of fan games bad to good? Because in my opinion sonic dimensions isnt bad
Aww, but then that would mean SRB2 would be close to bad. I like that one.
@@GottaBeFrank oof
It is not mediocre it is
*T R A S H*
sure it may have some problems, but you cant deny its one of the best open-3d sonic fangames out there
It's really not that great.
@@GottaBeFrank I see now I think you just hate it for some odd reason
@@googs_forever he is a fool tbh
What's next, Sonic Yemen?
I think the 3 new levels (the first 3 levels) are just oozing with potential. The chao paradise level is so fucking good
Potential they arent going to see and keep them broken
Besides the plane, I had fun playing. But I'll respect your opinion, as I can see where you're coming from.
After playing it myself, it's... alright?
10:01 Shadowcopter, Shadowcopter?
Oh wow. Imagine a tiny creature, spinning at a million rpm, throwing chaos spears. Aiming would be non-existent, but he's eventually hit everything.
@@GottaBeFrank Sonic's version of the Parakopter, parakopter.
Epic Adventure 3 tease? Chaos-kopter!
The game should be free to play and possible to support imo financially if anyone wants to support on their own wish. But it should always be fully accessible as a free to play experience. Also with the level design and shit, yeah you're right. The first 2-3 levels is how this game should play, the tails gamemode need to be a more fast paced shootemup obstacle course instead of slow ass cruise. Shadow should have more unique abilities to sonic with more chaos abilities and maybe more puzzle based levels but needs a new moveset to compliment it.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 yeah i just put it out there for people who didnt understand the fact that they are allowed to make money
the first boss fight wasn't difficult tho, beat it my first try.. dont blame the game difficulty because ur bad
there is nothing wrong with this game so far i played it bruh
You probably missed the part where I said it was a spike in difficulty for this early in the game. It's not the difficulty of the fight, but the placement of it, where I had the issue.
I don't hate the game, but i hate it's monetization
Sega should hire this team. Problem solved. This game is already better than forces in my opinion.
You dont know how hard it is to get hired at a large Company do you?
Plus that wont fix jsckshit we would actually get worst games lmao
@@six5157 Very hard i am aware. Its just my opinion mate. Calm down.
@@six5157 So true
@@sirterry2444 Good job being the EXACT kind of stereotypical fanboy Knux was talking about.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 I'll be honest. I haven't played a single sonic game after generations. I'm just not a fan of the direction sega is taking sonic. If that makes me a stereotypical fanboy, fair enough. I'll take it.
Looks good graphically, but too hard for me. Characters I'd want play not in it (for example one I share a first name with, is pink and swings a hammer). Pay wall thing is crappy too. Game looks too tough, maybe not intended for casual players? It does look like it has potential though.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Hard only = bad for players who can't handle it, like me of course. Having easier mechanics or controls is not bad either. I think making different paths for different player skill levels and marking them some how a good solution.
this looks 10000X times better and more compassionate than sonic frontiers. and it always has.
Facts😂😂😂😂😂
"It looks better cuz fangaem, lololololololololololololo"
Nooooo!!!
This comment sure aged poorly lmfao
For me I like the Moldy Jungle and Tree Palace stages the most because of the platforming.
Its not about fangames being better than Sega games literally speaking. Its about an individual or small group producing something comparable or in some ways superior to what a company with a full budget can do. Its just hyperbole to the point that Sonic Team sucks. Or maybe Sega in general sucks.
So why are people acting like it is?
Sega doesn't suck, they make other franchises
11:42 Is it just me, or does Shadow have French accent?
I can't quite figure out the accent.
more russian than french
Nah. It's a Japanese Accent.
Sounds like someone doing a bad impression of Kilian to me
French Shadow is now a thing.
Here’s my thoughts on omens
Even tho this game is flawed I still had a super fun time with it
Sure some of the levels (especially the bosses) are frustrating but with some tweaking and redesigns of some of the levels I think this game has the potential to be fantastic the music is amazing and the graphics look great
I agree with the voice acting thing sonic sounds just fine Amy (for the very few lines she had) sounds pretty good rouge sounds alright
Shadow and tails and eggman could use some work tho maybe get people who can actually do there voices pretty well
As for the whole patrion thing I wholeheartedly agree that it’s a scumbag move to get donations for an IP that isn’t yours
Thank god they shut down the patrion and are now running there updates through game jolt
I just hope that no other fan games or projects try to get monetary gain because that’s illegal
And if sega sees more fan games doing this then they won’t allow anyone to make fan content they’ll be as strict as Nintendo
And that’s no good so please don’t monetize your fan games please it should be strictly a passion project
The movement for Shadow looks similar to Forces, a little bit too similar, MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Tree Palace is just Ginso Tree from Ori and the Blind Forest, but significantly worse.
Well, this was rather a shock despite how people treat it like it was a big deal, _in a positive way._
What I think is more shocking is how familiar is one of Shadow's levels by just looking at it, at least so far in the footage shown in this review.
The design reminds me of 2005's "Shadow the Hedgehog" where I can recall some pace-killing levels in that game too, which were also basically simple platforming. I didn't think it would make a return for the gen-alphans.
Unironically, I just couldn't help but laugh from hearing Shadow's voice acting, he sounds like he is from a very different culture from America- Black Arms origin notwithstanding. Also, "lacation."
Remind me again, why did Dillin Thomas support Bolt again?
Sonic Omens? More like, *Sonic Oh, Man!* get it? Oh-man?! Like, Oh mah gawd someone kill me for this joke....
If it shows up clear enough, that's actually the logo in the thumbnail lmao
Id love it though if we got an adventure game like this but, better like this
many platforming, glitches and all? lol
IT ISNT BAD
Honestly assuming the devs are any good they will listen to critiques and we will get a good game.
I hope so at least.
If the update is anything to go by, they are listening. That's a good thing.
Wow! Well that’s upsetting. The only level i couldn’t beat was shadows second act to his boss. I gave up after An hour of dying over and over again. It has potential but, if we have to pay for a sonic fan game is it really a fan game? Fan games are free as they don’t own any licensing rights. Now i will gladly support a patreon but not for pretty much purchase of a game
All fan games are technically infringement on Sega's copyright, but they turn a blind eye to it because fans aren't competing with the official games. The problem with the patreon is that it's funding development of this game, which isn't cool.
Honestly, I just replay Area 99 and Chao Paradise. I like both a lot. The rest, eh.
9:50 atleast your specs are better than mine i have
intel core i7-4710hq
amd radeon r9 m265x
16gb ddr3 ram
1 tb hdd
its a laptop from 2014
Alright
Ima still play this game tho