Firewood Chainsaw Comparison - Echo and Stihl. CS-620 vs MS361
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2022
- We run to great firewood bucking chainsaws back to back to show you all similarities and differences between stihl and Echo chainsaws! All and all had alot of fun and made some great firewood for the outdoor wood boiler!
Note to people looking to get into firewood, and I do believe OHTHF would agree, start with a yard sale chainsaw and a basic splitter to make enough firewood to get a better saw, then a better splitter, then a couple of really good saws... then use what you've got until it becomes a bottleneck in production. Nothing wrong with a 60cc pro-class saw as long as you are happy with the job it does. I just wanted something bigger. Didn't need it, I wanted it. The cost of my 70cc pro saw was about 2/3 the price of a load of logs. My Echo CS-590 could've done the job with a 24in bar just fine.
Very good advise! It’s all about what you make of with what ya got, everybody has to start somewhere!
I’ve Run Johnshreds all my life however when I went to saw shop for a new one they have Ben discontinued 😢 now it’s time to figure out the alternative. Having run Echo weed whackers with almost zero troubles I decided to try a 620 echo saw . Wow what a saw I’m super impressed
I switched to echo in my landscape business and have never looked back. I've always ran Stihl saws, but due to more tree work requests it got me curious about echo saws. I bought a 271 top handle and it's ok, but for $20 more the 355 top handle for 369.99 is a steal of a deal. I think the 620 is the same in the rear handle category. People should try them out, most reliable power equipment I've ever ran.
That Echo continues to impress. As I mentioned in my video, I went to a demo recently and they are making some good stuff. Thanks for the comparison as it puts things in perspective. The new saws from Echo, Stihl, and Husqvarna have really come a long way.
It really does! It’s no slouch :) I think the price point to performance is going to be hard to beat! I’ll be sure to get a lot more action and a better feel for it in the near future. Thanks for watching!! Take care
Good content! My CS 620 P with a 24" bar has become my main Saw on the family Farm for Logging, Firewood, land clearing, etc. It is much more than just a Firewood Saw. My CS 7310 is excellent as well, but it is heavy, and the 620 has way better ergonomics on the steep terrain I am cutting on sometimes, the X Series are excellent Pro Saws!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes these echo saws are great, I really enjoyed running this 620. Take care and safe fellin.
That ECHO for the price can’t be beat . It is 620.26 out the door here at the dealer by the house . Great video !!!
No doubt! Definitely a dang good running saw for the money. I’m impressed with it so far! Take care buddy
I’ve got a echo 620, 590, and 400. I love all three. I also just picked up their 770 blower and I have one of their weed whips. I love echo equipment and all mine made in Illinois right in the good ole USA.
Cool cuttin vid, That echo is pretty smooth bud . Great stuff 👍. Cut on Ohio Hilltop , checking in from westrn Pa.
Thank ya! This Echo is really growing on me, it’s a great cutting saw! I sure appreciate ya watching, have a good one 🤠
Nice looking logs and a clean woodyard. My woodyard is a popp show in comparison. Gotta wait for the spring thaw to get rid of the last of the snow so can clean up the wood chips better and get the stumps cleared out.
Thanks! It makes it nice having the room to move the logs around, I know at my place I’m always crammed so I enjoy going to my fathers haha!
From what I've seen on your channel I'd be willing to give echo a go on my next saw. Hopefully you can keep the review going long term.
Thanks for watching! I tell ya I’ve ran a fair amount of saws and this one is just plain fun! Cuts great ,sounds good, is priced right, and makes quick work in the wood yard! I definitely intend on getting a lot of use out of this saw and will most likely be running more Echo saws on the channel!
Hafta say as a Stihl chainsaws owner i can see the Echo was a good bit faster. Quite a test with Hickory wood. Great comparison Dave.
Thanks Dean! I do have to say they both cut excellent the Stihl does need the chain rakers filled a bit to perform its best but man value and performance, I think the Echo is gonna be hard to beat!! Take care buddy
That wind was crazy! But better than rain Lol ! Hopefully we get get some action with the wallenstein this weekend, I don't think winter is over yet! We better cut some more firewood I have a couple things I want to try on the processor, hopefully they'll work? Bring that Echo 👍👍
Ahh my goodness it sure was windy! Still made for a fun day, yes I’m ready for some more processing action!! See the new wizard in action
That Echo is a BEAST!
I’m very happy with how well it performs, super impressed with it! Even in this hickory it seemed almost effortless. Thank you for watching!
I’m definitely impressed with echo saws! I run a little bit of everything, but have yet to add an echo to my collection
I’m with ya Andrew. I enjoy al chainsaws but after running this 620, I feel it’s gonna be hard to beat as far as bang for buck! Great saw. Granite the Stihl definitely needs the rakers filed a bit so it could have more potential but all in all made for a fun day haha. Thanks for watching!
The 60cc class has a lot of great saws. Hard to beat Echo when comparing performance and price.
I'm gonna get the red and black flavor 620 the shindy 600sx!!!!! LUV them Echos from what I've seen on videos Charles Brisco absolutely defys physics on what can be done on these saws with his porting, good video!
That’s awesome I appreciate ya watching, I’ll have to check it out!
Good video Dave and Dave. Enjoyed watching all that work being done . Being up on the hilltop today gave you both a windy tarp flapping accent for some reason? be careful out there and keep having fun. Fred.
Thanks Fred! We had a lot of fun, could have definitely gone without the wind 🤠. Sure made it breezy! Have a good weekend my friend.
Great video. And yes once you get a 261c, you'll wonder why you didn't get one sooner. Great saw. Or the Husqvarna 550xp mark 2.
I’ve been looking into getting a used husky, I like all of em so having a variety is all the better haha! I appreciate ya watching, take care my friend!
I ran still and husky’s my entire life I’m in my 50s and have cut my whole life how ever the last three years I’ve run echoes and have been nothing but impressed
Thanks for watching! I tell ya I’m a big Stihl guy myself and this Echo is really raising the bar for what I think the cost of Stihl should have but better due to the price! I am really impressed with this 620, looking forward to getting more use out of it shortly!
I did a muffler mod and tuned it for aviation fuel. Not ported yet but definitely woke it up from the stock mode. I love my 620p
That’s awesome! Thanks for watching 🤠
I'd love to see a video of this!
I love my Echo cs620, and also have a ms461 and 372xp. Can’t beat the Echo for the price, and non-stratocharged engine with standard no electronic carb as well.
I have been super pleased with how this 620 performs, definitely a lot of saw for a great price! Looking forward to running more gas through it, thanks for watching!!
I'm surprised at how slow your Ms361 cut. It didn't seem much faster than the ms250. When I had my Ms361, I remember it cutting better than that. Weird.
That Echo is cutting great.😎👍
Yeah to its defense the rakers needed a good bump. I do feel the echo is a faster saw though. Thanks for watching.
Hard to beat Echo in the bang for the buck category. I'll be bucking a lot of small stuff soon with my 550xp, basswood specifically. Not running the big saws until I know my back can take it.
No doubt! I’m going to be looking into a husqvarna saw before long, haven’t had much experience with them! I enjoy all saws but yes this Echo is a beast for the price!
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm, the Echo 4910 is a great little saw. Echo also has a new 50cc pro saw coming out soon to replace the 501P. Might be worth the wait for the Echo. If the local Echo dealer didn't tick me off I'd have all Echo saws.
The 550Xp is an excellent saw.
I was thinking that was a dull chain on that Stihl. That echo really cuts well, but a sharp chain on that Stihl Would have made as world of difference . I like both and own both, ran nothing but Stihl for 25 years, but they are overpriced and climbing..great video, windy on that hill
Yeah buddy! The chain was fairly sharp but the rakers kept it from biting very well, looking forward to getting it honed in and do a timed run! Ahh man the wind was ridiculous, still made for a fun day! Take care Dave
Really like the proformance of the Echo 620
It really is a strong saw for it size and price! Thanks for watching
Is the echo the same make as a jomac? Or is it a different saw altogether?
Ill look into it but im almost certain they are different saws all together. Thanks for watching
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm your very welcome it’s good to see the performance of the different saws 😎
Have to let you guys try out a 501p Echo if you want try a smaller saw it's a great smaller pro saw.
That would be awesome Ray! I absolutely love this 620 for larger firewood, a high reving lighter saw would be perfect for limbing and bucking smaller wood! Awesome saws!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
The echo cs-620 has a ported cylinder from the factory . Has a wide torque curve mid-rpm and it shows.
Thanks I didn’t know that, I wounded if they work the exhaust or intake? Sure is a great saw, I appreciate ya watching!
Good to see a comparison between two pro saws not a pro saw and a 590 (although the 590 is nice)
Thanks! Yes I’d like to run a 590 and feel the difference of the two, that 620 sure runs great! Always a firm believer in Stihl also so I call it a draw haha
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm I have a 620p. I’ve owned pro saws from Dolmar and Husky. To me, the 620p has the torque feel of the Dolmar crossed with the RPM of the Husky saws. Kind of a cross between the two. I have a ported 572xp and a stock 550xp Mk2. The 620p really doesn’t have a place but I’m not getting rid of it because I like it so much…
That’s awesome, I’ve been looking for a 572. I think it will be my next saw 🤠
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm after I had mine ported it became the saw I was looking for…
You Reilly Need to wrap your Thumb around the handlebar. Dont rely on the chainbrake
Oh yes i sure do, thank you for your concern!
Ive always been a fan of echo myself.
It is definitely a great saw! Thanks for watching
That 620 was the boss that day. The 361 looked a little dull. I need to haul out my 250 and show you how it's done. 😂
Haha thanks for watching, yes the 361 needed touched up but mostly the guides needed filed down a bit. The 250 is no slouch :) I sure enjoy running mine, great little saw! Thanks for watching, take care my friend!
I have a CS-600 P that I purchased in 2010 what a dog , I did a muffler mod to it and what a saw last year I purchased a CS-620 P what a saw 28 in bar and it will still out cut my CS-600 P with a 24 in bar . I would not part with ether one , there great saws
Good to hear! I know that 620 is a very good cutting saw, i was glad i had the opportunity to demo it!
Well that Echo chainsaw seems to go right through all that lumber!
I have found myself really enjoying this Echo, after years of running Stihl saws this one has became my favorite! Thanks for watching
Dave👍 Stihl 361 👍, Echo 620 sx👍
Thanks for watching! Sure was a lot of fun haha, made for a great day running some sweet saws!
HUSKY hands down! Love the firewood passion. Check out Rocky Mountain Firewood for all things firewood! Thanks everyone keep on firewoodin'
You let the cat out the bag lol.
Haha, sure makes for a wood cutting machine now! Take care my friend
It’s funny. Every video demo where the echo out cuts the stihl, the guys complain “the chain was dull”
Haha yeah you see it a lot, this chain on the 361 was sharp but the rakers needed a bit of love. Definitely has a lot more potential but I really enjoy this Echo, runs awesome! I’d say if we could put the same bar and chain on them the performance wouldn’t be proportional to the price difference!
I have been an awful Echo owner. I've left my cs590 out in the rain, and in the last 2 Ohio snowstorms we've gotten. I just found it the other day sitting on the ground after the snow melted. Started right up though. I'm still hoping to get an Echo 7310 at some point. I don't think I'll ever buy a Stihl or a Husky cause of the prices. I really wanted to have 1 of each though.
Haha that happens to the best of us! I really enjoy this saw, it has definitely surpassed my expectations! I believe I will be adding more Echos to my collection 🤠
Looks like you got a lot wood
The boiler likes these whole rounds :) I put 2-4 in there and it’s good till the next night 🤠. Sure was a lot of fun bucking up the logs!
If I get my Echo CS-590 ported and a carb mod, will outperform the 620P and possibly run with or better than the 562xp. But not as fast as a stock 572xp.
Quiet possibly, the 620 has a higher reving ignition though. When it comes down to it a 590 can perform right with the 620 but it’s not as cost effective, would be better off buying a 620 then porting it if that’s your thing. 620 also comes with larger carb and magnesium case/covers. Definitely awesome saws, thanks for watching!
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm, the guy I'd have do the porting on my Echo CS-590 doesn't need the 620P coil or carb with the way he does the ports. Uses a nozzle from a Stihl 360 or 361 carb in the Echo carb to do the trick. According to him, the stock ports on the Echo CS-590 are terrible compared to the 620P in stock form. But the 590 ports gain a lot compared to the 620P ports after machining. Can gice you the guys website if interested. He does all the saw brands, not just Echo.
That’s awesome, guy definitely knows his stuff if he’s interchanging brand parts for best performance! I sure appreciate it but I tell ya this 620 cuts plenty fast enough for me, I’ve had it in some poplar the other day and wow I can hardly keep up haha. Even in this hickory it was doing very well. I sure appreciate the comments!
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm, my 572xp is scary fast when cutting basswood. I prefer a lower powered saw for the job like the 590 or 550xp. A 620P or 562xp might be the best compromise between a 50cc and 70cc pro saws for polar/cottonwood/basswood. What do you think?
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MS 250 is a good saw. Sharp chain and don't lean on it too too hard it 2nd cut efficientry all day.
My echo ms361 is great replacement of my old stihl C’s-575 I guess
The 361 is a great saw! Thanks for watching 🤠
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm yeah ,,your very welcome,i Now have the echo I told you about but I got another saw just for Pete’s sake don’t you know,it’s a stihl 025 got it to pop but no runs,im hoping to make a vid of it running,I subscribed to 💯💯💯
No my current echo is a CS-501p,,I’m sorry I messed up the first time,,so yeah my echo is a CS-501p 59.8cc I believe or 59.8c or yeah F,and my old stihl was a ms391 ,,and my current stihl is a 025,I’ve got a wild thing chainsaw and a dewalt 20v as well
Look at a 572 xp with 28 in X tough light bar! Cutting machine after 9 or 10 tanks of gas through it!
I would love to end up with one of those saws one day! They sure seem like good ones 🤠 thanks for watching!
the big Stihl looked to be a bit blunt judging by the dusty shavings so wasn't a fair comparison with the Echo.
Your right,The chain was good and sharp but the rakers needed filed a bit to allow for a better/deeper cut. After running both saws I can honestly say the Echo can easily run with the Stihl though. Both great saws that I’d recommend to anyone wanting a serious firewood saw!
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm You are right about that because on Saturday I purchased a CS621sx with a 20 inch bar and it is awesome, very easy started and loads of power. I cut up 3 foot diameter oak logs with ease, brilliant machine.
Awesome! Yes very impressive for the cost. Glad it’s running good for ya.
Echo the best...
Sure is a great saw! Thanks for watching
ECHO 😁
Its definitely a great running saw! Thanks for watching
The echo 620 is not in the same class as the Stihl ms361. First of all this is not a fair comparison when obviously one of the guys running the saws knows how to run a saw way better than the other. I could also see that the 361 needed to be sharpened. I could also tell that the 620 had a fresh sharpening and the rakers were obviously taken down way to much work the way you could hear it chattering in the cut. I have owned both of these saws and the 361 is a better saw all the way around. Don't get me wrong the echo is a great saw for the money, but if you want a saw that will last a lifetime your way better off spending the extra money and getting a Stihl.
Yeah I’m not biased on saw brands, I enjoy building/working/and running all of them. And yes you are mostly right, the 361 was sharp but needed rakers filed. However I’m not sure what you mean by not in the same class? I’m always eager to learn. From my experience with both of these saws the Echo pulls just as hard if not harder than the 361. If a homeowner wanted a killer bucking saw I wouldn’t hesitate to tell them save yourself a lot of money and buy the echo. And you’ve peaked my curiosity with who was way better than the other 😂 I really enjoy hearing experts opinions!
Oh and the rakers were mint on the echo, it is hickory your taking about, known well all over for how hard of wood it is!
361 has more hp and should be the faster saw, my 360 eats wood faster than those.
Yup it needed the rakers filed down a bit to be cutting at its best! And yeah I’m sure it would 🤠, that was hickory made for a good trial for em’. Thanks for watching
Only way that stihl gonna beat the echo is Turn up the carb High setting real high and blow up your saw lol Only way stihl gonna win. Just excuses stihl isn’t sharpen correctly or the rakers
Haha maybe :D .nah they are pretty comparable but the value of the echo is a lot better. I’ll post another comparison video sometime and show the Stihl with a better chain and show a much closer match. I do really like the echo though!
Boo boo
No one watching this cares about homeowner models. Come on..
😂😂 I don’t remember which other saws were used in this video but both of these featured saws are professional series?? Cmon man… and I’m sure a lot of my audience doesn’t matter what saw I run they just enjoy coming along for the show.
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm The first saw is literally a homeowner saw. Not a professional saw. So i agree, you don't remember.
@@trackerbuckmann1627 ahh ya caught me, well I still appreciate ya watching and the MS 250 is a perfect saw for bucking smaller firewood. But either way hopefully you watched or skipped passed the homeowner saw and watch the 60cc pro series saws in action!!
Forget about the conclusion. Wind, horns and sirens. From watching, the Echo won.