Smash's Forgotten Movement Tech
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ค. 2021
- Super Smash Bros is a series that never stops looking for new ways to improve movement. After all, the better you can control your character, the more likely you are to beat your opponent. But, somewhere along the way the line between competitive viability and style has become more and more blurred. Smash Bros Melee set the bar as high as it could be, with nigh unlimited movement options at your fingertips. But, with each subsequent game we have found movement more and more difficult to exploit. Today, Super Smash Bros Ultimate offers us arguably the least flexible movement engine to date. And yet, that doesn't necessarily mean you don't have options to navigate this. See, as that cost of action goes up, we find that doing nothing at all holds more and more value. And while there is always a place for schmovement in your highlight reels, it may not be the best choice if you're trying to maximize your odds of winning. Join me in exploring the empty space between your options, and how doing nothing can be used to a greater effect than doing anything else when used in just the right ways.
Special thanks for Pelipper for supplying me his dope Melee clips, check out his channel for more highlights! - / @pelipperssbm
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Gonna try this new “nothing” tech on my roommate, he won’t see anything coming.
Update:
Lol he actually rage quit
@@monosurgeedar that's amazing
Hahaha😆
Been doing this for months and months
Brawlhalla players have none about this tech for a LONG TIME. If anything it is overused lol.
He's just standing there.... MENACINGLY!!
My ZSS and Falcon in a nutshell. Once I get a read I vanish and brutally punish like my name sake. I then use what I learn from my interactions to try to mix up and attack. Mūso Tensei for context: th-cam.com/video/yWCI1FlzCR8/w-d-xo.html it has spoilers if you plan on Watching or Reading The Fist of the North Star/HnK.
Maybe if we all simultaneously stand still in every tourney for the rest of ultimate’s life, sakurai will add back some movement tech to see something more normal than scarecrow standoffs
LMAO
LOL
Michael vs Bananas
🤯 bro you're a genius
Lol 🤣
The ultimate tech will always be Kirby down b in the air
We're not supposed to reveal that yet
Just as long as its not against Ganon
Hextuple jump rock
falcon up b from walk up, ganon boot or neutral from standing still or slow walk. never failed me, always made people lose focus
"Wow, it's fucking nothing."
"...Yes, that was exactly the point."
This editing is off the charts, Jesus dude how long did this video take?
A LOTTTTTT
@@Glyphmoney worth the effort though. It came out great.
Haven’t watched the video yet now but I’m excited
@@Rwtheking i agree- this one definitely deserves to blow up
Thats so true I Never saw a smash Video edited like that
The gurren lagann transitions was the sign that I needed to subscribe immediately
Same
coming from melee, this was the biggest lesson I learned in getting good at Ultimate.
>does nothing
>gets hit and dies
_How dare you lie to me you said this would work_
R.O.B. wake up, Glyph just uploaded.
So what you're saying is: Walk slowly and throw out a down smash.
shit i won a game against a top 10 player in our state by walking up and spot dodge up smashing
This is legitimately good advice. But its kinda sad that doing nothing is the only way to move without limiting options drastically.
I dunno, I like how it changes the pace of the game more towards the mental side and less of the execution of rapid inputs. Tho I also am not very fast so of course I'm biased towards the style that's better for me!
You could always try WALKING
Walking is busted
@@Glyphmoney I would say that at a high level of gameplay the mental side is still in full effect, and the advanced movement options allow much more freedom and creativity in how to outplay your opponent.
@@graxtheswampgoblinarchmage5356 I agree. Its exactly why ambiguous movement like wavedashing and moonwalking are mind games asf as well. Can't tell me ice's movement against armada isn't a prime example of mental game in ambiguous movement too.
Side note, despite the unlimited movement options in Melee, the concepts in this video apply 10000% in Melee as well. Consider your 'dash dancing' neutral as the space to do 'nothing', and the analogy is the same.
I never even realized how good the Tron soundtrack was until Son of Flynn played
That's actually a super good remix! Tho the OG Son of Flynn also goes super hard
I do this hidden tech of doing nothing alot online and people become very confused and that gets me free kills or damage
Me too!
This was done to me a lot by a friend of mine. Took me a long time to understand how he was killing me so often. Now I know
If I see someone not moving online, I stop fighting, but at a distance
This.... actually makes sense
I’ve done this forever in every fighting game. Waiting, standing, overshooting ariels to where they will be rather than where they are, and the best one, purposely feeding false information in neutral then taking advantage of their counter play to the false information you gave them. Also ariels in place are op.
Lol my fav is the armada classic, slightly approaching aerials, not meant to hit, but to carve out stage positioning and still be safe yet punish approaches
@@davidolinger3948 that’s beautiful. Melee is beautiful
I do the same thing but it's entirely by accident. The secret to my strategy is that I'm bad at the game.
@@mythosinfinite6736 💀
Rushdown is for nerds
Yooooooo that Gurren Lagen intermission cut was fricken epic! 🤯
I love how just standing in online is the best when spawning because everyone are only rushing
The only guy who makes doing nothing a tech
Best editing in the game
Its deffinitly Top Tier Editing, flawless and sums up with the Video but its nothing i would call the _best_ some smash edits are just criminaly underrated like this one. Compared to some basic mainstream edits, which doesnt have to be a bad thing but since its about editing, ya.
This tactic can also be referred to sashi-kaeshi (reactive play). With dashes being committal in Ultimate, standing there gives you access to the most options in the game. Never forget that. So if you've conditioned your opponent into the same rhythm, just standing there or feinting an opponent can be so powerful.
Ooooo what a good term!!
As a little Mac main I use this all the time against ledge campers
They’re all like: “wait he isn’t spamming dash attack for me to back throw him”
Say whaaaaaaaaas
No one suspects the swarmer technique
"forcing movement where it doesn't belong"... this is huuuge for me to hear. i've been trying for sooo long to start playing smarter neutral and learning people's habits, but I think I'm too focused on thinking i'm going to use my movement to evade and outmaneuver rather than just paying attention to each individual situation. thank you so much for this i love all of these videos so much! and thanks for making me actually feel cool for playing ROB when no one else does!
And now we have the slingshot
I love ledge hanging. It makes people start charging stupid down smashes or something, so you can just get up attack them.
this is what zackray was doing early ultimate, i forgot which big tournament it was
Why isn't this video popping off, it's such high production value >.>
Just won 3 games in a row with K Rool by doing “nothing”. Even made a joker quit!
"And neutral jing, when you do nothing." - king bumi
I notice this with the people I face online, that they aren’t aware of my habits that are based off of theirs, but particularly my habits based on theirs, of which they’re meant to out play there’s. But they continue to stick with their typical normal habits which is costing them stocks, percent, and neutral. I believe that having some self-awareness can help, along with their problem-solving skills. If mashing neutral B one hundred times in a row isn’t working maybe mixing up timing or using it in certain occasions might actually work.
this is literally my entire playstyle lol i just rush down then randomly stand still and wait
fr fr
Baiting airdodges with empty fullhops will always be my favorite thing in smash
This is really a fantastic video. Great concept, delivery, editing, voiceover. Very impactful
This was both very interesting and incredibly well edited. I'll be excited to see more content from you!
Another spectacular video to watch! Awesome work, you guys!
Hilariously enough, I've been telling everyone at my locals that doing nothing is the most advanced thing you can do; so much to the point the meme has become known as "Advanced Neutral" in our little group
Great content and kudos to the edit job. Very fun to watch and listen to!
I just wanna say I appreciate the work you put into these videos. I'm one of those players that chases high octane interactions with no regard for the benefits of patience and simplicity, so this really helped me out. Thank you.
Well done man. I've been playing this since it came out and you have me a completely new perspective.
Yo hats off to you. This video was masterfully done both visually and content wise!
Dude thats some really well put together content. Gold standard for this style of youtube vid for sure
That background gameplay is very impressive
This is easily one of the best videos I've seen to teach Smash metagaming and it's under the guise of movement tech. Genius. Also the editing was beautiful
Beautifully done, you deserve more exposure
That commercial break thing was incredibly badass
the editing in this video is unreal. good shit dude
Absolutely beautiful, your videos are getting better and better!
'there are some niche options' *shows ness but not flying magnet*
I'm actually not familiar with that! What's exactly does it do?
@@Glyphmoney Basically if ness does a magnet exactly 1 frame after double jump, it'll have an upwards diagonal trajectory. It can also let him get 2 hits of magnet to get more frame advantage than a normal magnet and combo into more options.
for a channel this small, your content and execution of your videos is outstanding, very good topic covered i actually don’t see many people talking about at all. you went into very good detail and i feel like you explained it very well so less skilled players will understand what high/top level players deal with, all with a very appealing editing format i couldn’t help but keep noticing. simply earned a like out of respect and sharing it with friends who would definitely use this and explained this topic way better to them than i would normally
This is crazy well done and a really good idea/analysis!
To dumb it down as much as possible:
The secret movement tech is patience. Patience matters because it's a small part of the bigger picture: adapting to your opponent and having good awareness.
This video was gorgeous, I would even send it to my non-smash bros playing friends
Every video you put out is amazing dude.
After seeing how well this was made im amazed youre under 10k subs. Top tier work right here!
dude, this video is amazing, and incredibly well edited, there is even a TTGL reference
you desearve a lot more exposure
Please never stop with this kind of informative, competitive and high level content. It's a refreshing breeze in the current TH-cam meta of mostly clickbait reaction video's which don't learn the player anything. I loved this video, keep it up!
honestly this editing is off the charts you deserve so much more recognition
So you can win by doing absolutely nothing?
*Laughs in Luigi*
Doing nothing as an option has been a core part of my gameplay for a long time(since Smash 4 at least), and it is a really good option and has probably been a reason why I have won a few of my matches for so long. I hope more people use it.
this was very very very good. thank you. you can tell immediately how much work was put into this. please keep it up :)
This is a killer video about such a nebulous concept. Really solid explanation
this is, once again some very solid piece of advice, love the videos !
This video is actually insane. The quality and editing are off the charts my guy. Holy crap
This is like the
"Shurelia's Zoning guide" for 2D fighters. Your critical thinking and breakdown was on point!
This video.... Is just amazing! On a general psychological level too!
I really hope it gets the views and relevance it deserves.
A huge well done to the content creator! This video also has a very compelling narrative. 🙌💯
i just found you and needed to tell you your videos are incredible, the effort you put into these are amazing keep up the good work
This is an absolutely incredible video and it’s teaching an incredible concept as well. I hope players can understand this well and apply it to their game
This video kinda changed my way of thinking during matches and it has helped me a lot and is weirdly relaxing while doing this.
Holy shit the editing is so fucking good
also! The value of standing still and walking is massive, even as a lower level player making use of it improves my play massively, I've been doing it for a whilr! I'm glad this video has unveiled this to more people!
I really love the editing and the content.
Awesome video bro, editing and musics are perfects
9k subscribers and your editing has that quality? What the actual **** I'm subbing RIGHT NOW
I like the transitions. It’s like it’s from an actual studio
Dude I've been watching so many videos of you, your editing skills are amazing you deserve way way way more subs
i'm actually pretty "notorious" for this in my local scene. i often don't tech and just sit on the ground, don't get off the ledge, etc, and just sit there. people question why i do it, but it works really well for me.
Besides the good content and editing, there were some really sick clips in there.
bro your editing is wonderful
The quality of this video is insane, massive respect
this is something i really need to learn going forward. i autopilot so often when im not even trying to and i’ve just been hitting a brick wall skill-wise. invaluable knowledge right here dude. massive props and great video. instant sub and like :)
Sick, great editing!
YOOO THE GURREN LAGGAN TRANSITIONS, very appreciated sir :)
Becomecubed is CRACKED at editing!
I was like "if he makes a video about doing nothing I'm going to like this video so quickly" and surely enough you did in a brilliantly technical fashion. Thanks for the great vid lad!
LOVE the transitions!!
Hey man was just randomly scouring TH-cam and came across this. Well done dude, great video, you’ve got some real talent!
your quality is really good you earned your sub gotta push the small creators
Can we get a round of applause for the editing??? Its completely NUTS! 👏👏👏
this video sounds like an intro to a rap song but the verse never starts
yo I just found your channel, super impressed!! these are very well put together videos man, keep up the great work
the tron ost in the background was fire
Bro you are going to blow up I just know it! The quality content you're putting out rivals accounts 100 times your size keep up the good work!
The production value of this channel is easily that of 1 million subscribers I did a double take when I saw how many you have God bless you and will the TH-cam algorithm please give you all the money
The power of neutral jing!
Nice content and clean editing. Good video!
Love to see the example from Four Loko FIght Night! Great Video!
Thanks dude, now people aren’t going to approach at all anymore
This is the most well-made video I've ever seen in my 16 years of watching TH-cam... holy crap
you're a real one for bringing up the "punch with killing intent" from ippo (:
Bruh how are you so good at editing?
Not only that but these videos are BananaBoy levels of helpful!
The quality of this video is worth like 2M subscribers, love the content, keep it up. Also, good voice man.