I don't know why but I can't stop pronouncing it like an Italian. Ra-Fa-Ley. Any way you say it, it's a sexy jet and it alone makes me thankful france kept up with it's own domestic military production.
hi im the guy that made the bug report for the f3/4 they finally accepted the report after I gave some more sources, so there's a chance they'll rename it to F4.1 before it goes live
Glad to have you! To be honest I highly doubt they will do that, but who knows? I fully expect it to stay F3-R personally since they'll want to save a later Rafale to add later.
I may be a Japan main, but the Rafale will be the first thing I’m grinding and spading once the update hits. Japan (Thailand) literally is only getting copy paste, so I’d rather get something new. Kinda sad it’s not getting 8 missiles, but I did notice Gaijin removed all of the F4 features (it had a lot of F4 features for some reason) on the Rafale and putting it at F3 standards to keep it as it’s named. I am and still will be annoyed that the first AESA wielding fighter jet in came isn’t the F-2 though.
The Rafale did carry 8 MICAs, 6 was simply the combat standard. Dassault themselves say that the F4 standard can carry 8 MICAs and that this standard included no upgrades that would affect the total quantity of air to air missiles available meaning the F3 would also be able to carry 8 MICAs. Not to mention there are pictures from before the Rafale as F4 standardized with it carrying 8 air to air missiles and various loadouts where 8 individual pylons are seen to be capable of using MICAs (2 under the belly, 3 on each wing).
Aren't there two stations fitted under the engines also? So you'd have four on fuselage (two centerline, and the two engine-mounted), plus three under the wings and the wingtip stations.
@@kylebrady969 There are no hard points under the engine. In general I would not expect this place to ever get hardpôint on Rafalce B, C and M because this place features the opening that allows to dismount the engines. Only Rafale A did some aerodynamic testings but it is signficantly different structure wise. The 10 missiles load out proposed (by MBDA, not Dassault as of now) is with using the 2 inner pylons usually reserved fro fuel tanks by giving them 2 meteors
@@approved7760 mig31M with 6xr37+4xr77 would like to say no , it would be a mach 3 missile larper like the f15e , low CMs wont matter if you can simply outrun enemy missiles.
I still don't get why they had to jump straight to an F.3/4/whatever and Tranche 2/3 Eurofighters... I think it was kinda like a statement from Gaijin that we're now deep into Gen 4.5 jets, and there's nothing stopping them from adding Su-30/35, JAS 39E, Super Hornets, F-2, MiG-35... Things are going to gett crazy next year
we are getting 2014 rafale with aesa radar , but for some reason gaijin cant add a pesa flanker from the early 2000s , no they just want ru mains to suffer with 80s N001 radar on the flanker cus russian bias and now they just added 2 more airframes that outperform anything in the russian tt in every way.
i have lost hope for su30/35 , gaijin made every other fighters ufo's while the acknowledge that the su27 is underperforming but they dont want to fix it , i bet tvc flankers will lose to f5e in a dogfight , with how poorly gaijin will model it in game.
Speaking fo AESA radar, so Kfir C10 Block 50 is coming out as event with AESA. might be to test out the new system before implementing into the tech tree planes?
Great review! You made Dassault proud. Fantastic aircraft. And she's the most beautiful lady around. rAfAle is pronounced best with "A"s pronounced the same as in bAt, except that it's a short A, not as long as in bAAt or fAAT or mAAthiew. Cheers!
You also didn't mention the EW capability of the Rafale which, for war thunder, would be far and above any other plane. It was designed to be a self contained EW system without the need for external EW support aircraft like other planes require, an indian air force test even showed that the Rafale was able to render the mig35s radar completely useless while its own was perfectly fine and able to give a fire solution.
Gaijin said that they consider the official EF-2000 stats as propaganda so there's a chance the finalize FM is better than the EF-2000 which was nerfed on dev from underperforming to underperforming even more
"underperforming"? It is now in its current form breaking records for acceleration to Mach and altitude gain (literally, it does it better than specially prepped planes for records) . Plus, at this point it has just started to match the advertising brochures rather than exceeding them by a factor of 1.5.
How far in the future would you estimate that the Indian sub-tree comes to the game? I’m thinking of grinding France and Britain so I can get the Eurofighter, Gripen, and Rafale but if it’s coming to Britain, I might not grind France.
I’m aware the Raptor won’t be added soon, but can you make a what to expect for it anyways? Also nice to know that the F-22 will get an HMD from how they are handling the French Rafael’s lack of one.
Well it was developed with a HMD just by the time it was ready there was major discussion about shortening military spending in France (it was before the Ukraine conflict) so they choose to take the HMD just in option, in case of, but not actually produce/buy them at that time.
Let's add a few more aircraft that are 4.0+ gen first. F-18 absolutely needs to be next, I'd even say the F-15EX should be added before the f-22, plus the felon would need to be added for it to be fair to add the f-22. Which I think would require a 16.0 br
I won't be making one anytime soon, but I may start compiling sources for whenever it's getting closer. As for the HMD, 5 of them got HMD in 2023. Personally, I think there's a chance they add an "early" one without HMD and with the 9Ms it used until 2015 first.
Hardly anything will change, for air rb atleast. Might even become better because these and the f15Es are going up to 14.0. ground RB on the other hand..... Yeah its about to get worse
Wait a second. So the version of rafale that will be added in warthunder doesnt have HMD? If it doesnt have it jn real life, dont add it in warthunder. Lower its BR or add new version of rafale.
I guess Im not understanding why only the Rafale is getting an AESA radar. Why just one fighter if there are multiple aircraft, especially when the US is getting effectively nothing this update besides a worse HSTV-L and copy-and-paste M44. The F-15C should absolutely get it this go around. Especially since it was Gaijin's own words how they wanted that model to be the air superiority one.
because Gaijin tend to first test new features on a small set of vehicles (ideally of minor nations, but not always), in order to not screw with the game balance too much until they flesh it out and then implement it everywhere it should be.
@@theoescamez6230 This argument was used when an AESA radar was given to a Soviet helicopter added last patch. Why limit such a feature to a minor nation and a branch a lot of players don't actually grind down (yes, hello players that do. You are not a majority). It should have come along with a few different options.
@@mokaso why minor nations? lets take AESA: its completely brken RN, doesnt work at all like it should. this way, they only have the French tree player bitching about it :D but also if ti was too strong at the first implementation, it would have alot mroe consequences if big nations were the ones having it. finally, since they do do that alot, why would always big nations be the oens to profit from it? (though im sure this one doesnt factor in Gaijins equation)
You pronounce it better than all the people who keep saying Rafael
Appreciate it!
all the people being TEC lmao
I don't know why but I can't stop pronouncing it like an Italian. Ra-Fa-Ley. Any way you say it, it's a sexy jet and it alone makes me thankful france kept up with it's own domestic military production.
@@thekleefulframecounter8416 yeah I don't know if I should say it like "Ra-fall" or "Ra-fahl"
Lee may not be pregnant, but he still delivered
LOL
You make the same joke on videos like this and its fantastic. Keep at it.
I can certainly fix the first part 😉
Uhhh wtf
this is hilarious 😂
hi im the guy that made the bug report for the f3/4
they finally accepted the report after I gave some more sources, so there's a chance they'll rename it to F4.1 before it goes live
Glad to have you! To be honest I highly doubt they will do that, but who knows? I fully expect it to stay F3-R personally since they'll want to save a later Rafale to add later.
Big W. 8 Missiles would be huge
@GeneralLee2000 the aasm 1000 was found in the files so there's a good chance they change the rafale
@@mistrcarrot they will not rename it to rafale f4 but rather will remove the hmd and gmti to be accurate to rafale f3r
@@pouletbidule9831big oof
I may be a Japan main, but the Rafale will be the first thing I’m grinding and spading once the update hits. Japan (Thailand) literally is only getting copy paste, so I’d rather get something new. Kinda sad it’s not getting 8 missiles, but I did notice Gaijin removed all of the F4 features (it had a lot of F4 features for some reason) on the Rafale and putting it at F3 standards to keep it as it’s named.
I am and still will be annoyed that the first AESA wielding fighter jet in came isn’t the F-2 though.
You pronunciation of Rafale is the best i've heard from non french content creators
Eyyyyyy 🙏
ralph
Your pronunciation is quite good for an english speaker (especially comparing to some Portuguese creator that keep calling it the "RAfaEEL")
Raul moment
Interesting,in Spanish Is something like
Rafale (rafaleh, like in "let's" )
The Rafale did carry 8 MICAs, 6 was simply the combat standard. Dassault themselves say that the F4 standard can carry 8 MICAs and that this standard included no upgrades that would affect the total quantity of air to air missiles available meaning the F3 would also be able to carry 8 MICAs. Not to mention there are pictures from before the Rafale as F4 standardized with it carrying 8 air to air missiles and various loadouts where 8 individual pylons are seen to be capable of using MICAs (2 under the belly, 3 on each wing).
Aren't there two stations fitted under the engines also? So you'd have four on fuselage (two centerline, and the two engine-mounted), plus three under the wings and the wingtip stations.
@@kylebrady969 yea it is technically capable of carrying 10 MICAs but afaik that has never been done for any combat sorties
@@kylebrady969 There are no hard points under the engine. In general I would not expect this place to ever get hardpôint on Rafalce B, C and M because this place features the opening that allows to dismount the engines. Only Rafale A did some aerodynamic testings but it is signficantly different structure wise.
The 10 missiles load out proposed (by MBDA, not Dassault as of now) is with using the 2 inner pylons usually reserved fro fuel tanks by giving them 2 meteors
Top marks for listening to Lucas' music scores.
the UK techtree is gonna/would be insane with both eurofighter AND rafale lmao, finally justice for britain
Eurofighter, Rafale, AND Gripen
There is ZERO reason for Britain to get the Rafale
We have yet to see if they'll put the Indian rafale in
And Su-30 and hal tejas
Does britain exist?
There is even a Rafale F5 in the work, wich would bring more stuff on the stealth part, from the little i know about it.
Another patch another No F-18. We stay winning
SO BASED!
@@Garfieldonaperc REAL AND TRUE
always a great day when lee uploads
I called it the Raffle for the longest time. I think you're good here.
LOL
how would you feel about the Mig-31 if it were to come to WarThunder?
its going to be like the f-104 at 9.3
@@approved7760 mig31M with 6xr37+4xr77 would like to say no , it would be a mach 3 missile larper like the f15e , low CMs wont matter if you can simply outrun enemy missiles.
I still don't get why they had to jump straight to an F.3/4/whatever and Tranche 2/3 Eurofighters... I think it was kinda like a statement from Gaijin that we're now deep into Gen 4.5 jets, and there's nothing stopping them from adding Su-30/35, JAS 39E, Super Hornets, F-2, MiG-35... Things are going to gett crazy next year
we are getting 2014 rafale with aesa radar , but for some reason gaijin cant add a pesa flanker from the early 2000s , no they just want ru mains to suffer with 80s N001 radar on the flanker cus russian bias and now they just added 2 more airframes that outperform anything in the russian tt in every way.
i have lost hope for su30/35 , gaijin made every other fighters ufo's while the acknowledge that the su27 is underperforming but they dont want to fix it , i bet tvc flankers will lose to f5e in a dogfight , with how poorly gaijin will model it in game.
Crazy soab he did it, the rafale vid'
Hope we get Rafale F5 in 2028
British air gets every plane except f-15
Did someone say CLASSIFIED? just wait 2 months and some random french pilot will unclassify it 🥰🥰
Speaking fo AESA radar, so Kfir C10 Block 50 is coming out as event with AESA. might be to test out the new system before implementing into the tech tree planes?
Great review! You made Dassault proud. Fantastic aircraft. And she's the most beautiful lady around. rAfAle is pronounced best with "A"s pronounced the same as in bAt, except that it's a short A, not as long as in bAAt or fAAT or mAAthiew. Cheers!
F5 standard with the 9 kn m88 and CFT will be insane
your french is on point
TLDR: disappointment
Rafale IRL may be superior but it’s not perfectly fit for WT
@wingsweep69 Yeah lot's of things that can't be well modeled in game (like the SPECTRA system, semi-stealth, aesa radar feature...)
@opalow_ we're getting an AESA kfir as the winter event vehicle
waaaaah
Good video Mate
Cant wait for the Rafale M my boi
every time I see this plane I see the cover of HAWX game
Lee can you show your graphics settings please? 🥹
As a fan of EF, i hate to say it but Rafale is definitely will better than The EF under Gaijin preference
You also didn't mention the EW capability of the Rafale which, for war thunder, would be far and above any other plane. It was designed to be a self contained EW system without the need for external EW support aircraft like other planes require, an indian air force test even showed that the Rafale was able to render the mig35s radar completely useless while its own was perfectly fine and able to give a fire solution.
unfortunately, Soviet code fueled by vodka can't handle it within this decade
the rafale is a beautiful plane.
Gaijin said that they consider the official EF-2000 stats as propaganda so there's a chance the finalize FM is better than the EF-2000 which was nerfed on dev from underperforming to underperforming even more
As propaganda???? You could say that for most planes then that dont have it declassified
"underperforming"? It is now in its current form breaking records for acceleration to Mach and altitude gain (literally, it does it better than specially prepped planes for records) . Plus, at this point it has just started to match the advertising brochures rather than exceeding them by a factor of 1.5.
I bet they’ll use all the stats declared by Sukhoi and the Russian MOD when they the Su35 aka the flying gas station
@@LikeawormThey've spent about a year ignoring info stating the Su-27 and Mig-29 flight models are underperforming, so no.
@@Likeaworm Giving the example of Soviet Gen4s where literally nothing works right was a bit “out of the loop”
Can you make a video on the F-2?
can't wait for the Indian variant in the British tree to inevitably remove the biggest downside of this aircraft
being French
Man I really like your chanel but as a french I can only feel offended
I'm crying on my croissant rn
Because being Indian is better than being french ? News to me
@@EroBE14 ranked the same tbh
bro bein indian is way worse lmao, probably the worst thing that can happen to you... at least the french rafale would smell nice
LOL I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY LACK OF MISSILES
How far in the future would you estimate that the Indian sub-tree comes to the game? I’m thinking of grinding France and Britain so I can get the Eurofighter, Gripen, and Rafale but if it’s coming to Britain, I might not grind France.
Is the Rafale in the British Tree for the Indian variant?
Brit tree getting both Typhoon and Rafale is cool
Did dev opened lasr week somehow? Never been logged into dev this time btw, thx for the vid
@@screwthis3151 yup, update is tomorrow lol
Question: Why they didn't added first the Rafale A variant?
because all that was meant to do was fly, and not really anything else
Rafale A was simply a demonstrator, Rafale B/C/M were the production ones
IT'S HERE!!!!!!
id rafale is getting hammer couldnt the su34 get its grom 1 back?
I'm expecting a bunch of naval stuff being added in May/June, Naval Rafale, F14D and the F35C cause who cares about the Hornet :)
Just in time
Now you know what to expect 😇
is camo coming to the games too?
This was a userskin, so it may be a marketplace camo potentially
Do we know what day it’s coming out?
December 16th (tommorow)
chat gpt redirected me to you
I’m aware the Raptor won’t be added soon, but can you make a what to expect for it anyways?
Also nice to know that the F-22 will get an HMD from how they are handling the French Rafael’s lack of one.
Well it was developed with a HMD just by the time it was ready there was major discussion about shortening military spending in France (it was before the Ukraine conflict) so they choose to take the HMD just in option, in case of, but not actually produce/buy them at that time.
Let's add a few more aircraft that are 4.0+ gen first. F-18 absolutely needs to be next, I'd even say the F-15EX should be added before the f-22, plus the felon would need to be added for it to be fair to add the f-22. Which I think would require a 16.0 br
@ read the first line of my comment.
@@MD-wn4ui we both told you what to expect. Are you confused on what you asked for?
I won't be making one anytime soon, but I may start compiling sources for whenever it's getting closer. As for the HMD, 5 of them got HMD in 2023. Personally, I think there's a chance they add an "early" one without HMD and with the 9Ms it used until 2015 first.
General Lee is the rip speed of Rafael true ?🙏🏽🗣
worth!
+1
You ok? It sounds like you had a stroke at 6:35.
I attempted to French
@GeneralLee2000 lol i heard that, it actually wasn't too bad
ik its werid but im not excited for this update, now toptier will be once again even more broken
Hardly anything will change, for air rb atleast. Might even become better because these and the f15Es are going up to 14.0. ground RB on the other hand..... Yeah its about to get worse
Wait a second. So the version of rafale that will be added in warthunder doesnt have HMD? If it doesnt have it jn real life, dont add it in warthunder. Lower its BR or add new version of rafale.
YEEEEEEEEEEEES
Rofls time
Wassup lee?
What I will be unlocking first :)
Not a bad choice. Eurofighter will be better still though
rafale goat
goatfale beats f-22 ez
@pouletbidule9831 yep yep
I have ablsolutaly zero interest for these new top tier jets. Since Fox3 was added I just dont care for air RB above 11.3
it's very fun in sim, as long as you go on one of the bigger map (not tunisia or dover strait) and if the lobby isn't like completely full.
You mean other than France mains busting all over their monitors?
As opposed to the usual us mains busting all over their monitors when they're getting their 19th new best top tier jet ?
They already did that with the teaser
FINALLY
I guess Im not understanding why only the Rafale is getting an AESA radar. Why just one fighter if there are multiple aircraft, especially when the US is getting effectively nothing this update besides a worse HSTV-L and copy-and-paste M44. The F-15C should absolutely get it this go around. Especially since it was Gaijin's own words how they wanted that model to be the air superiority one.
It's just going to work like a pesa anyways
because Gaijin tend to first test new features on a small set of vehicles (ideally of minor nations, but not always), in order to not screw with the game balance too much until they flesh it out and then implement it everywhere it should be.
@@theoescamez6230 This argument was used when an AESA radar was given to a Soviet helicopter added last patch. Why limit such a feature to a minor nation and a branch a lot of players don't actually grind down (yes, hello players that do. You are not a majority). It should have come along with a few different options.
@@mokaso why minor nations? lets take AESA: its completely brken RN, doesnt work at all like it should.
this way, they only have the French tree player bitching about it :D
but also if ti was too strong at the first implementation, it would have alot mroe consequences if big nations were the ones having it.
finally, since they do do that alot, why would always big nations be the oens to profit from it? (though im sure this one doesnt factor in Gaijins equation)
Just pronounce it Rafael, it sounds better.
if mid was an aircraft:
It would certainly not be a Rafale
it would be named su33.
You're a mid player and it shows
@@conflictclips at least su33 fans arent deluded
now thats not a very nice thing to say about the F-15, even if it is true