I don't think I would be nearly as mad about this if they didn't namedrop me on the dev stream, expecting me to actually approve of their implementation
@@Iammshadowkiller Yea. But the moment you bring it up the Russian mains scream copium and for them to silence. Though when they hand Gajin a crayon page of how the Russian r-73 or something should be doing 360s at Mach 4 towards their enemies. Gajin would immediately do it.
**UPDATE 18TH** Both HSTV-L and RDF/LT has been buffed accordingly! Hooray for the people HSTV-L now has a firerate of 60 RPM (1.0s per round) RDF/LT now has a firerate of 70 RPM (0.9s per round)
They changed it because it will affect sales, if the RDF wasnt premium I can say with certainty they would NOT have buffed it. How the company works is despicable and not worthy of respect.
This is no hooray, it's another display of hypocrisy and greed, they did it because the nearly 500k content creator known for his HTSV-L love told people to not buy the tank they half made half copy past and it would have hurt their precious little sales Apparently the only way to get a tank """fix""" in this game is to have almost half a million people following you, otherwise it's the same shit, Russian tanks will still be busted, other nations will get copy past of Leopard, and French tank will still be moves up in br for no reason
You are speaking about Gaijin, the comapny that posted an interview with a M1 crewman where the interviewee clearly states the M1 120mm reload rate is suboptimal and somepne loading that slow would be kicked out. They had a literal source on their hands and decided to eyeball it
I can easily see them just picking a single document and thinking that's all they need, which leads to such inaccuracy. Although I'd expect the first best thing to be representative of the specs, even if there are some disagreeing documents. But this wouldn't be the first time Gaijin chooses the one that is least accurate.
@@pilotmanpaul Or the Su-27/Mig-29s appropriate speed bleed, or the r-77 on yak-141 (kind of a stretch but it itself is a stretch), or the datalink which shows what your teammates see on their radars that Su-27 has from the beginning. The list can go on, but US mains decide to overlook all of it and focus on their specific vehicles that are already pretty good
@@aenodarrIm not a US main but you are also just focusing on Soviet/Russian vehicles like they do. It’s normal if they focus on their own vehicle because that is most likely the vehicles they will play.
war thunder stream: I am sure a certain context creator will be happy with this release. spookstone after 5 days: do not buy it (with a thubnail saying useless and using the gambling meme as an opening) fucking hilarious
@@ГеоргийМурзич I must admit since reaching toptier I luckily haven't been a victim of russian bias and I'm oneshoting russians left and right but still, shut up. There's overwhelming evidence, you have the most broken nation, just own it.
4:04 in an alternate universe beloved Slug Company Jaigin implements the RDF/LT with applique side armor rated for protection from 140mm cannons based on this video
Bro the 2s38 got nerfed so many times and it's still somehow busted? IRL some variants of the 2s38 have Ataka ATGM or use the BMD4 hull, and gaijin added literally the worst variant possible 💀 (There's also the T14 Armata with a 2s38 cannon so...)
The disconnect between what sources are allowed for gaijin sources and what sources are allowed for everyone else is ridiculous. I have had bug reports denied when using videos of manufacturer representatives talking at events like eurostatory, but then watched as challenger 2 TES and OEM got their side skirt thicknesses reduced where the source was pixel measuring a stock photo
This is the true Russian bias. Gaijin will accept many sources when buffing or fixing Russian vehicles, but accept almost no sources for fixing non-Russian vehicles.
Source: *Military Docs* Gajin: Not Reliable Gaijin: We added ERA armor on a Russian tank that never had it, added internal spall liners and cut the fire rate by 3 sec Source: A Russian youtuber, who heard it from a cousin, who then heard it from a street vendor, who heard it from a homeless man, who heard it from a Dog, who heard it from a Cat Makes Sense
Russia and China always overblowing what their vehicles can do for political clout and Gaijin accepts it perfectly fine every time... but the United States, the country literally known for HIDING the true capabilities of their vehicles behind classifications, says something publicly, and all Gaijin can say is "nuh uh it's worse than that"
And yet Gaijin still thinks its fair to let the 2S38 exsist, with a third the reload time, massive ammo upgrade, and at a full br bracket lower. Yah, sure that makes sense
And they refuse to up br it cuz most 2S38 players are >lvl10 and got their first premium, so it's stats show up as extremely bad and gaijin looks at them and says it's ok in that br like they would rather cater to the 1 month pick up and dump players than players that have been playing for years ffs
litteral US army documents: "no we dont believe these stats to be right" Russian TH-cam advertisement: "oh we missed some internal spall liners? thank you for this fantastic correction, it shall be added post haste!"
Если бы... Мы у них годами просим фикса багов и изменение растительности - 0 реакции. Многие хотят советский колесный танк - 0 реакции. Они слушают только то, что помогает им заработать, а не какую то определенную группу/нацию.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 oh boy, only if what your comment implies really was the truth. The Su-39 in game is pretty much a copy of the Su-25T when it should have much more stuff than it does, like a ground radar or the Khod FLIR. And the worst is that Gaijin knows about this missing stuff and they just leave it there.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 Yeah. I made a bug report on the Mi-8AMTSh-VN some weeks ago and in less than a day appeared one of the bug reporting managers telling how these are to be done. But then I make a bug report about the Su-39 radar, with strong evidence, nothing. This is bad faith, a such strong enthusiasm on Gaijin's side to keep ignoring the important stuff.
>It's time for new American light tank after having existence ignored for years >look inside >over tiered nerf sloppa with a premium sticker for brand milking T37 bros: "I get to be tech tree, right?"
@@The_Gaming_Hamster seeing a trend here. First they milk IFVs, Updates after updates, Then they milk MBTs, Premiums everywhere, Now they're milking artillery. Next is APCs and eventually jets
I love how the devs are like "Look the tank spookston wanted and we made it finally" Then spook turns around and completely shits on WT devs. This is why I'm subbed
Hey Spookston, the HSTV-L and the RDF-LT have both had their reload buffed The HSTV-L now has a fire rate of 60 rpm The RDF-LT now has a fire rate of 67 rpm Only took them 4 years
Wait a damned minute, the whole *point* pf the ARES 75mm was the relatively high ROF. They even had a "three round burst" engagement method. And the *publicly admitted* penetration of the "good stuff" developed for the cannon was roughly equivalent to contemporary 105mm APFSDS. The only excuse for the "no applique" package is if you are using it in an *airborne insertion* scenario. In literally any other scenario, applique armor would have been added (just as the later M8 AGS would have operated).
Lest we forget gaijin denying the report on the Stinger which didnt pull enough Gs, with their only source against it being "this russian missile looks similar and cant do that"
I reported in February 2016 that the APHE Ammunition of the Panzer IV variants with the long barrels where wrong by over 25 mm, backing it up with official documents by the Wehrmacht from 1942. It took them nearly 4 years to actually fix it, and I was even told that "the documents could've been classified" 💀
@@sniffer123-z1o same moderator that denied primary source evidence that showed every Abrams since the m1a1 HA had added DU inserts in the Hull im sure its the same mod that denied spookston's sources.
Man I already respected you for the great content you upload so regularly, and then here I am yet again reminded of the amount of dedication you have for trying to fix vehicles by getting the relevant sources/data and putting up with the snails bullshit is honestly fucking legendary.
12:06 People aren’t exactly happy about the BMD-4M, either. A thread on the forum got about 1000 votes to make it a TT vehicle (and still have the premium, like they did with the JA37Di) but Gaijin just ignored it.
Especially infuriating since they already locked the BMD-4 behind a paywall and profited greatly from it. BTW I have it and it's a great tank, but I was looking forward to research a TT variant as well. Also the TT version of premium vehicles should always be a straight upgrade or at the very least on par with them in terms of performance compared to premiums instead of the opposite.
Every single vehicle added to the soviet ground tree this year was AA. The 7.3 and 9.3 shilka and osa, rest were all premiums. All aa for the biggest ground tree in the game that frankly doesnt rly need aa rly pissed ppl off, myself included
Like 3 days after this video came out and people boycotted the rdf: Gaijin gives hstvl accurate fire rate, as well with the ref. They clearly thought spookston fans who like seeing him play the hstvl were gonna buy this. They don’t, so gaijin makes it better. I love war thunder, but it is clear it is a game mainly focused on making as much money as possible.
With the blatant ahistorical inaccuracies in relation to their recent additions (looking at this and the Sholef in particular), Gaijin might as well add back the Coelian and Tiger II 105.
also reminder that Coelian did exist as a wooden mockup and the Tiger II 105 is more of a blueprint, making them more legit than whatever Gaijin pulled out from its arse on creating/implementing/balancing their current vehicles.
Spookston, in my opinion you are never annoying if you love the RDF/LT (which it seems you do) just talk about it, it's not annoying. In my opinion the 2S38 is better than the RDF/LT and maybe even the HSTVL. Appenrently they just hate US light tanks. Speak your Opinion, we love you!
Not just light tanks, Gaijin hates all US vehicles. They've artificially nerfed Abrams too with recent Hydraulic Pump addition which is misplaced and does not behave as it should. Both Heli and SPAAs are below average, not even CAS is best anymore, Su-34 singlehandedly curved the winrates for Russia to 70%
maus wasn't a paper tank, it was actually made and captured by the soviets, albeit reconstructed from the turret of the prototype 2 and the hull of the prototype 1. maus was "removed" (only acquirable during gaijins birthday) cause it was very hard to balance, cause 6.7 had a lot of tanks that couldnt pen it, and could fight 5.7, 8.7 had heat and apds which made quick work of the maus, and only 7,7 was left, but 7.7 was also quite bad cause it fought both of those things just explained, albeit to a lower level, and they just decided to "remove" it outright.
@@Caramel_exe us makes new vehicles. Out preforms competent. Enemies make a new vehicle to match the us vehicle. Us panics and makes a new vehicle to combats new enemy vehicles. New enemy vehicle is a paper tiger. Repeat
i think you're right that this update puts a huge emphasis on generating profit. An example of this is the Tiger package. Both premiums are Tiger H1, but with a pay to win difference. The techtree Tiger has smoke launchers on the hull that prevent it from shooting at an angle, both premium Tigers do not have the launcher.
I wish Gaijin would just say "we don't want to do this because it goes against how we want to balance the game" rather than try to mental gymnastic sources provided to them. Doesn't do anything besides generate bad will when people engage in the system the proper way and they don't give any reasonable explanation for ignoring it
Translation for "how we want to balance the game" - USA can't have anything competitive in Ground top tier and we will nerf it and add more Premiums until winrates hit rock bottom
They're so adamant on "adhering to the sources" but have no problems making changes solely for balancing reasons when they feel like it. Traction is by far the most egregious example. They nerfed traction into the ground because they couldn't fix their shitty map design.
@@EvenMoreCheese it kinda is given they refuse to give us spall liners and darts still don't shatter properly after all this time making the UFP of the Abrams absolutely worthless compared to every other nations vehicles. I have more fun in my type 90 just because it reloads faster, doesn't need an ace crew, and oddly enough the armor actually seems to work on it, at least compared to any Abrams I've ever had the displeasure of using. And needing to rely on air power isn't a great feeling when I want to play ground battles.
Completely agree with Spookston. They just don’t care anymore, they just want the money. To reject or not even acknowledge primary sources from players genuinely trying to make the game better for everyone boggles my mind.
@@CatGoesMoo It's not even to fuck with Spookston. The leadership of Gaijin are Russian, and they not only have strong Russian bias, they could literally get in trouble with the dictatorship in Moscow if they don't push Soviet/Russian propaganda. The Kremlin is allergic to reality, and have to keep up the facade that everything the US shits out is overhyped crap and only true Stalinium/Putinium is the best in the world. A game like WT is strongly in their crosshairs, a light MBT like the RDF/LT capable of penetrating T-80's from the front? That would be devastating to their pride.
They love doing the reload thing to American battleships, so many sources state that the 14 inch gun could reach 2RPM yet they have an aced reload of 1.5RPM because the initial reports stated the combat average reload. They take the max theoretical reload for all other ships, e.g the mutsu and amagi which can reach ABOVE 2RPM while having 16 inch guns, but American battleships, which already have bad armor and speed, and smaller guns, are just gimped because. I seriously hope nobody is getting their hopes up about Iowa being added. They’re going to gimp it somehow.
I think back in the day us tanks all had gimped reloads because they used the slowest reload rate (minimum loader requirement from the furthest/most out of the way ammo) as the aced reload rate
@@curtsauce3947 Naval is surprisingly good for grinding SL, other than that, I find it boring and wouldnt grind it. However I did get the HMS Renown (7.0 or top tier british battleship) from the SL crates during travel suitcase (Other thing I got was Russian imported P63-A5)
during the swedish trials for MBTs that gaijin loves using when talking about leo/abrams armour, the t80s had an acceleration that is what the challangers acceleration is ingame. the t80s acceleration ingame 2x-3x better than irl
the devs are so unbelievably hypocritical yet ignorant, I got dismissed for citing 6 sources (including one directly from BAC) for a Canberra Mk.6 fix years ago and they told me it wasn't enough sources despite 5 being the minimum required for consideration at the time
Knowing that spooks is a midwesterner, that tone of voice may sound not very angry, but you just know, he is beyond mad inside, He is just straight up going nuclear inside.
this man is so infuriated he won't tell the snail's employees to have a nice day this guy's so mad he wants to do chores angrily brother's so bent out of shape he's gonna build a table explicitly to flip it over
I really like this version of Spookston and the gambling meme was hilarious. This the second video of yours that I re-watched. Multiple times at this point. The other was the 32 kill game.
Gaijin screwing over anything and everything about new vehicle to avoid giving the US a decent goddamn Light Tank? Must be a damn Tuesday. Which is weird, I could've sworn I went to church this morning.
@@thatonelocalauthority2809 They treat everything that is not from Russia like shit you pleb, making a point about us light tanks does not negate everything else they do. Multiple things can be true at once not everything is a zero sum game.
Gaijin: Does everything to ensure that the american line is neutered to remain "balanced" Also Gaijin: Does mental gymnastics to ensure that russian ground has as many advantages as it possibly can by accepting any information regardless of source
Video (8) of asking spookston to do a randomized challenge. Essentially a wheel decides almost everything. List of wheels: -A wheel that decides the nation. -a wheel that decides how many vehicles (1-3). -A wheel that decides the BR. (Maybe like a 1-2 br leniency) -A wheel that decides what vehicles (air or ground). Either reroll before every match or just do it once, your choice. (If you would like me to make the wheels to save you the suffering of making them I would gladly do that.)
its so dissapointing that they can add classified vehicles and just guess to their stats, but when sources are provided its "clearly a marketing lie". Or the m1128 not being fixed with a source from the ags. or using engagement time which is clearly not reload time. Gaijin is such a disspointment.
Initially, I was actualy very hyped to see that they were going to add the vehicle, and was hoping that it'd be more accurate than their 'version' of the HSTV-L. But now that you've laid out what you've been trying to get fixed with numerous reputable sources, and Gaijin clearly not caring AT ALL, I don't even think that I'll be spending any money on this game anymore. They've been guilty of cash grabs in the past, but their greed has been growing over the last couple of years with the climbing playercount. But I cannot, under any circumstance, try to support such a business model, knowing that I'd have to spend a triple A game's worth on a vehicle that isn't even historically accurate, nor within respectable levels of 'accurateness.' So, I really understand the rant, especially given that it's one of your favourite vehicles and want it to be represented accurately in-game. Long story short, Gaijin greedy, I'm kinda done.
Welcome to the club. I love War Thunder as a concept, but the company ruined it after rug-pulling the early adopters and consistently making the grind worse year over year, when you'd expect them to do the opposite so that people can unlock more stuff/retain player interest....
Also how people defend the current HSTV-Ls br is baffling to me. I had an argument with someone over requesting the HSTV-L to be kept at 11.3 in ground RB in the most recent BR changes, only to find out that they have only ever played arcade, and never played above 7.7... They also proceeded to mention that it would be completely unfair for the 2S38 to ever face the HSTV-L in both their current states... I simply do not understand some people, this person had never played nor faced either of these tanks, yet was vehemently attempting to argue their point. PS love the vidoes as per usual :)
@@INeatFreak Even worse, it was in a youtube comment section. I kept asking for his ingame name as I gave him mine, because I just didn't believe/agree with any of their points. I ended up finding it through their youtube channel, turns out they were a very competant arcade player who spent tens of thousands of matches in low tier shermans. Nothing wrong with that, but they should know better than to comment on topics of which they have 0 experience. They also mentioned the A10C was fine where it was before its battle rating increase...again they had never played air realistic, nor participated in any jet combat.
those types of people are the worst lol.... best thing about War Thunder not letting you have your stats private means you can just see right through the bluster and lies. "They also proceeded to mention that it would be completely unfair for the 2S38 to ever face the HSTV-L in both their current states" Also, lol, lmao even...... I've regularly faced 2S38s as they're ALWAYS being taken to 12.0 (as it fights just fine there) and I can say I'd take one over an HSTV-L almost any day of the week, it gets better thermals, can fire off an entire HSTV-L's worth of darts in under 13 seconds without any issue, carries 6x the ammo, carries *better* ammo in almost every regard and ALSO gets the bonus of being artificially low BR, so every top tier kill gives you bonus SP, RP and SL... the same nonsense applies to the BMP-2M, it's artificially low BR so it gets CAS easier at top tier as everything gives you more SP when you're uptiered.
Players: "We have a source to fix X vehicle! please do read it and fix ASAP, it's also straight from the military/company" Gaijin: "What's that? a western source? one our team magically didn't find? HA! pure misinformation!"
at the same time flankers and MiG-29s have awful flight models and Gaijin also doesn't want to fix those. This isn't a bias thing, Gaijin just does whatever the fuck they want even if it's against what the sources say.
I completely agree with spookston i would love if they add the stabilizer to the t95e1 bc it's annoying to not have a stabilizer at that br making it annoying to play
I completely understand your frustration SpooksMan, but at this point is it really a surprise? Leaving aside the memes, can we really say that Gaijin doesn't have Russian Bias? Again! 2S38 is 10.3 same as BMP-2M, let's not forget about the KA-50, etc etc. Keep up the good work, love your videos.
denying Russian bias is kinda just dumb usually it comes from flawed logic like "they're a company they need to make money by keeping everything balanced!!!" or something like that, almost as if the mr ceo can't waltz into the office and demand to just up the numbers in the configs for russians just bcuz of his delusions or something
Thinking Russian bias is a thing is just completely silly. Look at the air. Russian and Soviet planes basically underperform everywhere, their missiles too. Other nations get the early Eurofighters and Rafale, Russia gets an Su-33 (basically a heavier flanker in the context of Warthunder). The thrust vectoring flankers, later MiGs and MiG-31 are overdue and yet haven't been added for no apparent reason.
Genuinely cannot believe they thought that you'd approve of this to the point of name dropping you, I seen that and immediately knew this video would come
I love war thunder but a game thats meant to be based on some of the most historically accurate vechicles and constantly being wrong to the point where TOP SECRET information has to get leaked to get a fix. Yet things that are very very veryyy public knowledge is simple wrong at least 80% of the time, is absolutle bananas
as much of a meme as it is, you are legitimately the expert on the HSTV-L and RDF-LT in this community, and while i wasnt going to buy it anyway (fuck off $80 premiums), i certainly wont ever in the future. thanks for clarifying the matter
Theres also how quickly the trailer and dev server went out for this update. Like, as of writing this (16th December), there are still "new vehicle" ribbons on the vehicles from the last update. One of the shortest turnovers I've seen.
really not looking forward to this past the turn over time is too short for proper patching and with their history of randomly bricking things they didn't even work on in patches the fact that this will likely be squirted out just a day or two before GAIJIN goes on their Christmas break makes me very concerned what kind of crippling bugs the game is going to be stuck with for 2+ weeks. They didn't *have* to push another update this year.
I love the layout of this video, most other TH-camrs do fine describing why you should or shouldn’t buy premiums but this was actually informative and interesting. Thanks!
12:36 from what ive heard they balance vehicles around the average stats of players playing the vehicle (AKA average K/D/A, SL/RP gain and so on when using said vehicle), so its most likely that HSTV-L is used bv better players since it punishes worse players by a lot and that influences the average stat of the vehicle, leaving it in this limbo of being too weak but not getting changed
Sorry just so I understand correctly, Gaijin is saying they won't increase the reload rate of the RDF/LT because of "balance"... while the 2s38 will be at a lower battle rating, has comparable survivability, arguably a better gun, and a higher fire-rate.
And thr 2S38 has literally no official sources or documentation, they just took verbal spec sheets as truth. Remember this is a prototype one off and russian arms industry lies out it's teeth
Not "arguably a better gun", it's straight up an upgrade over the 75mm. Not to mention the HSTVL didn't have HE until this year I think? Like they're pretty incompetent when it comes to built, tested, well documented AMERICAN vehicles. But you show them the 2S38 which might as well be non existent and it gets all of it's quirks n stuff day 1
US tanks: Literally all credible sources you could find from the Pentagon and are open sources. Gaijin: nuh uh that’s not enough. Russian tanks: Some random Gaijin employee just believe that it would be so cool to add a rail gun and a spaceship engine on a tank. Gaijin: that’s some credibility right there.
It's not even just modern vehicles a bunch of the Soviet prop fighters and bombers are franken vehicles that never actually existed in the configuration in game most prominently almost every LAGG and YAK has more engine power their production variant.
7:03 No, Spook. It's not rushed. It's purposefully castrated because if it were any good, their precious T-series would actually have in game competition from the US, and we can't have that, now can we?
the US tanks are already better. just because the average US top tier main is worse than the worst germany main with the Tiger, does not mean the tanks are bad
@o-hogameplay185 yeah. That's why gaijin actively ignores real sources like accurate fire rate from the horses mouth in exchange for shit that matches its preconceived beliefs. Confirmation bias, if you will.
@@jw1343 reload rates are a balancing factor. that's it. you could also say, "hey, gaijin just ignored this real video where a Leo 2 loader reloads in 2.5s and they did not give the Leo 2 that reload! BIAS4!4!4!"
@o-hogameplay185 saying reload rates is the only balancing factor is an utterly braindead response. Reload rate, pen, ammo count, maneuverability, and ability to engage first (ie, Gen 2-3 thermals, smoke, LRF, etc) all play into it. And when a vehicle has laughable of all, while it's "equivalent" is absolutely busted- there's no leg to stand on here in defense of the quite obvious anti-us sentiment the devs have.
Im just so tired of russia getting EVERY SINGLE minor variant or prototype as a techtree vehicle just to bolster their lineups where the US or Germany get jackshit in terms of functionality. The 2S38 is just the cherry on top with shit like the RDF/LT or the Puma VJTF being 11.7 while it sits comfy at 10.3 while being 10x better.
Remember with the Yak-141 they just said "war thunder is a game about what could be possible" when its IRST didn't physically fit the internal volume. By that logic surely the mere existence of a better round from the same program should be enough grounds for the HSTVL to at least get that, same with the reload rate really.
Where there is contention or 2 versions it should simply be an unlockable module. Should be the same for aircraft engines, you name it. If there are several versions.
They actually fixed the reload on both of them. The RDF is 0.9 seconds, and the HSTVL is 1 second now. Also, the RDF has its speed set to 64 km per hour now. My question, though, is if the reverse speed on it should be 12 km per hour.
"the RDF sucks" people that have never played the HSTV-L: but it has 60 rounds oh right, i am so glad the BVM and T-90M sides can now eat 60 rounds instead of 26 also, we know who rejected the report, it was 100% trickzzter, i guarantee it. he's absolutely the reason they decided to hide who's who in the forums.
When you talking about balance, Gaijin chose realistic When you talking about realistic, Gaijin chose balance Games made by Russia (and other former Soviet countries) always help me understand why the Soviet Union disintegrated
@@curtsauce3947I have a 2s38 as well, you can put it literally anywhere in top tier and it WILL do well. It is that good BR changes literally can't affect it negatively, it dies easily no matter what but it's gun can still pen and disable anything it faces at top tier.
I don't think I would be nearly as mad about this if they didn't namedrop me on the dev stream, expecting me to actually approve of their implementation
It’s almost like they added it for in hopes you would make a video on it and get you’re viewers to purchase it
True that
They hinted at you without specifically name dropping you.
I was hyped for this thing man, hopefully they'll end up buffing the reload and adding the applique armor later down the line.
You could actually change the game, but as we know! Gaijin isn’t very good at pleasing it’s players. (Because they simply don’t)
Everyone: "This will certainly be Spookston approved!"
Spookston: "Look at how they massacred my boy."
Also Spookston: "You utter fool! You buffoon! And more fool me, for engaging in this tomfoolery to try and better you!"
Lol
I mean, he aint wrong, feels like us tech tree doesnt get the same attention as the russian one
@@Iammshadowkiller Yea. But the moment you bring it up the Russian mains scream copium and for them to silence. Though when they hand Gajin a crayon page of how the Russian r-73 or something should be doing 360s at Mach 4 towards their enemies. Gajin would immediately do it.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 You mean when someone sent in and said that the 2s38 reload was too slow and they buffed it without any sources needed?
**UPDATE 18TH**
Both HSTV-L and RDF/LT has been buffed accordingly! Hooray for the people
HSTV-L now has a firerate of 60 RPM (1.0s per round)
RDF/LT now has a firerate of 70 RPM (0.9s per round)
speed was changed too. pen is still wrong lol
They changed it because it will affect sales, if the RDF wasnt premium I can say with certainty they would NOT have buffed it. How the company works is despicable and not worthy of respect.
This is no hooray, it's another display of hypocrisy and greed, they did it because the nearly 500k content creator known for his HTSV-L love told people to not buy the tank they half made half copy past and it would have hurt their precious little sales
Apparently the only way to get a tank """fix""" in this game is to have almost half a million people following you, otherwise it's the same shit, Russian tanks will still be busted, other nations will get copy past of Leopard, and French tank will still be moves up in br for no reason
“Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error”- Marcus Tullius Cicero, commenting about Gaigin and the HSTVL
errrare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum
"Umm actually that's not us, that quote is actually talking about spookstan" - Gaijan
Wait is that his actual name?
@randomyt666 Yes
no way that's his name
Remember: This is the same guy who interviewed an engineer on the HSTV-L Project so he knows what he's talking about.
He was a contracted analyst that did projections for the HSTV-L's off-road speed, I just couldn't fit all that in the title so I put engineer
Which is why the 2s38 should go down to 8.3!
@@tafYT.What?!?!? That BR is way too high.
@@tafYT.heck naw that thing gets and autoloader with good pen and also can be an AA also the 2s38 is better then the hstvl
@@tafYT. NO WAY. It should be 7.7
You are speaking about Gaijin, the comapny that posted an interview with a M1 crewman where the interviewee clearly states the M1 120mm reload rate is suboptimal and somepne loading that slow would be kicked out. They had a literal source on their hands and decided to eyeball it
I love how gaijin just selectively decided which military documents it wants to use
To this day, the T-90Ms APS is still not added or the 2S38s hydraulic suspension.
I can easily see them just picking a single document and thinking that's all they need, which leads to such inaccuracy. Although I'd expect the first best thing to be representative of the specs, even if there are some disagreeing documents. But this wouldn't be the first time Gaijin chooses the one that is least accurate.
@@pilotmanpaul Or the Su-27/Mig-29s appropriate speed bleed, or the r-77 on yak-141 (kind of a stretch but it itself is a stretch), or the datalink which shows what your teammates see on their radars that Su-27 has from the beginning. The list can go on, but US mains decide to overlook all of it and focus on their specific vehicles that are already pretty good
@@aenodarrIm not a US main but you are also just focusing on Soviet/Russian vehicles like they do. It’s normal if they focus on their own vehicle because that is most likely the vehicles they will play.
@@pilotmanpaulcomplaining about broken russian vehicles as if they arent massively out performing their irl counterparts 💀 cope harder
Gaijin rolls worst RDF/LT ever, asked to not throw bug reports in the papershredder
I feel you. I've been trying to get Gaijin to fix game breaking VR bugs for over a year and no luck.
war thunder stream: I am sure a certain context creator will be happy with this release.
spookstone after 5 days: do not buy it (with a thubnail saying useless and using the gambling meme as an opening)
fucking hilarious
Plot twist: It was Loner (the using BMP-3/BMD-4 as artillery guy)
Gaijin trying to not fuck up whatever vehicle Spookston likes challenge (impossible)
But they'll still keep the russian types/base vehicles op
If only spookston were a Russian bias enjoyer, maybe there wouldn't be so much Russian bias
No, it's just that Johns are the worst players in the game
@@ГеоргийМурзич I must admit since reaching toptier I luckily haven't been a victim of russian bias and I'm oneshoting russians left and right but still, shut up. There's overwhelming evidence, you have the most broken nation, just own it.
Usually just US vehicles ngl
4:04 in an alternate universe beloved Slug Company Jaigin implements the RDF/LT with applique side armor rated for protection from 140mm cannons based on this video
"giving it a faster reload rate would be busted"
Meanwhile the 2S38
well it is busted, but busted for the right nation
Always remember that Russian bias exists
The developer May be based in Hungary but the Dev lead IS Russian.
Bro the 2s38 got nerfed so many times and it's still somehow busted? IRL some variants of the 2s38 have Ataka ATGM or use the BMD4 hull, and gaijin added literally the worst variant possible 💀 (There's also the T14 Armata with a 2s38 cannon so...)
@@R4FSANdont worry they will come as event vehucles or premium vehicles for insane prices so only a select few people can get it.
The disconnect between what sources are allowed for gaijin sources and what sources are allowed for everyone else is ridiculous. I have had bug reports denied when using videos of manufacturer representatives talking at events like eurostatory, but then watched as challenger 2 TES and OEM got their side skirt thicknesses reduced where the source was pixel measuring a stock photo
this is actually funny, wtf is gaijin smoking
@@Anorexic_Clown They're russian so you know, they have to be stronger than NATO at least in games XD
RUSSIAN BIAS😊
yeah; Just look at the UTAAS clusterfk.
This is the true Russian bias. Gaijin will accept many sources when buffing or fixing Russian vehicles, but accept almost no sources for fixing non-Russian vehicles.
Source: *Military Docs*
Gajin: Not Reliable
Gaijin: We added ERA armor on a Russian tank that never had it, added internal spall liners and cut the fire rate by 3 sec
Source: A Russian youtuber, who heard it from a cousin, who then heard it from a street vendor, who heard it from a homeless man, who heard it from a Dog, who heard it from a Cat
Makes Sense
The fact that gajin thinks the military is wrong about their own tank is hilarious
Not only the army, but its own creator😂
The snail knows allways better
Russia and China always overblowing what their vehicles can do for political clout and Gaijin accepts it perfectly fine every time... but the United States, the country literally known for HIDING the true capabilities of their vehicles behind classifications, says something publicly, and all Gaijin can say is "nuh uh it's worse than that"
Well, "their" military is wrong about everything it claims, and they use it anyways. They're just bias against western vehicles
Unless it's the Russian Army, they know better than The Snail apparently
And yet Gaijin still thinks its fair to let the 2S38 exsist, with a third the reload time, massive ammo upgrade, and at a full br bracket lower. Yah, sure that makes sense
1.3 brs lower, with better thermals and armor
And they refuse to up br it cuz most 2S38 players are >lvl10 and got their first premium, so it's stats show up as extremely bad and gaijin looks at them and says it's ok in that br like they would rather cater to the 1 month pick up and dump players than players that have been playing for years ffs
russia suffers though
@@MrTeddy12397 It does IRL, but it definitely doesn't in WT
Don’t forget that the 2S38 can *still* fire all of its ammo at once without “overheating” despite the game saying it did overheat.
Me casting my eyes upon the non functional but visually modeled smoke mortars on literally every M4 Sherman variant
litteral US army documents: "no we dont believe these stats to be right"
Russian TH-cam advertisement: "oh we missed some internal spall liners? thank you for this fantastic correction, it shall be added post haste!"
Если бы...
Мы у них годами просим фикса багов и изменение растительности - 0 реакции.
Многие хотят советский колесный танк - 0 реакции.
Они слушают только то, что помогает им заработать, а не какую то определенную группу/нацию.
@@evilfurryfromnowhere4100 I just so happens that ironically the thing that makes them the most money is the Russian tree
@@aiedenoldstien9751 oh boy, only if what your comment implies really was the truth. The Su-39 in game is pretty much a copy of the Su-25T when it should have much more stuff than it does, like a ground radar or the Khod FLIR. And the worst is that Gaijin knows about this missing stuff and they just leave it there.
@@noobhue1997 Are a lot of Gajin's big money spenders complaining about it? Then it doesn't matter to them.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 Yeah. I made a bug report on the Mi-8AMTSh-VN some weeks ago and in less than a day appeared one of the bug reporting managers telling how these are to be done. But then I make a bug report about the Su-39 radar, with strong evidence, nothing. This is bad faith, a such strong enthusiasm on Gaijin's side to keep ignoring the important stuff.
>It's time for new American light tank after having existence ignored for years
>look inside
>over tiered nerf sloppa with a premium sticker for brand milking
T37 bros: "I get to be tech tree, right?"
LAV-25 is sorely needed, we have the chassis, we have the gun, and yet we don’t have the vehicle
@@The_Gaming_Hamster seeing a trend here. First they milk IFVs, Updates after updates, Then they milk MBTs, Premiums everywhere, Now they're milking artillery. Next is APCs and eventually jets
Bro called out Gaijin and they fixed some of it within a week 💀
finally, the expert can give his take on this situation
I love how the devs are like "Look the tank spookston wanted and we made it finally"
Then spook turns around and completely shits on WT devs.
This is why I'm subbed
Hey Spookston, the HSTV-L and the RDF-LT have both had their reload buffed
The HSTV-L now has a fire rate of 60 rpm
The RDF-LT now has a fire rate of 67 rpm
Only took them 4 years
They tread time their take for basic thing like candy (just take 10th Anniversary to add healing, etc)
Just like real life
Wait a damned minute, the whole *point* pf the ARES 75mm was the relatively high ROF.
They even had a "three round burst" engagement method.
And the *publicly admitted* penetration of the "good stuff" developed for the cannon was roughly equivalent to contemporary 105mm APFSDS.
The only excuse for the "no applique" package is if you are using it in an *airborne insertion* scenario. In literally any other scenario, applique armor would have been added (just as the later M8 AGS would have operated).
Lest we forget gaijin denying the report on the Stinger which didnt pull enough Gs, with their only source against it being "this russian missile looks similar and cant do that"
kind of related since this is related to the forums i hate trickzzter or whatever his name is
I reported in February 2016 that the APHE Ammunition of the Panzer IV variants with the long barrels where wrong by over 25 mm, backing it up with official documents by the Wehrmacht from 1942. It took them nearly 4 years to actually fix it, and I was even told that "the documents could've been classified" 💀
@Skull-dw3kn "classified" MY BROTHER IN CHRIST WW2 WAS ALMOST A CENTURY AGO
@@sniffer123-z1o same moderator that denied primary source evidence that showed every Abrams since the m1a1 HA had added DU inserts in the Hull im sure its the same mod that denied spookston's sources.
@@migleinos try telling that to gaijin
Man I already respected you for the great content you upload so regularly, and then here I am yet again reminded of the amount of dedication you have for trying to fix vehicles by getting the relevant sources/data and putting up with the snails bullshit is honestly fucking legendary.
12:06 People aren’t exactly happy about the BMD-4M, either. A thread on the forum got about 1000 votes to make it a TT vehicle (and still have the premium, like they did with the JA37Di) but Gaijin just ignored it.
Especially infuriating since they already locked the BMD-4 behind a paywall and profited greatly from it. BTW I have it and it's a great tank, but I was looking forward to research a TT variant as well. Also the TT version of premium vehicles should always be a straight upgrade or at the very least on par with them in terms of performance compared to premiums instead of the opposite.
I'm pretty sure there won't be TT variant soon
Maybe there will be but it will happen after bmd will get nerfed
Every single vehicle added to the soviet ground tree this year was AA. The 7.3 and 9.3 shilka and osa, rest were all premiums. All aa for the biggest ground tree in the game that frankly doesnt rly need aa rly pissed ppl off, myself included
They literally said it will follow in Q1 2025
votes dont hurt their income
It's official. Gaijin hates us
Your just now seeing that?
Ancient news
Correction: Gaijin hates the United States
@Mr.PerfectCell-M nah they just made it official with this
always have
Like 3 days after this video came out and people boycotted the rdf:
Gaijin gives hstvl accurate fire rate, as well with the ref. They clearly thought spookston fans who like seeing him play the hstvl were gonna buy this. They don’t, so gaijin makes it better. I love war thunder, but it is clear it is a game mainly focused on making as much money as possible.
With the blatant ahistorical inaccuracies in relation to their recent additions (looking at this and the Sholef in particular), Gaijin might as well add back the Coelian and Tiger II 105.
Reminder that they never fully removed them.
also reminder that Coelian did exist as a wooden mockup and the Tiger II 105 is more of a blueprint, making them more legit than whatever Gaijin pulled out from its arse on creating/implementing/balancing their current vehicles.
Shit leta pull a wargaming and add an is-2 with 2 122's and maybe even the anti air variant of the maus
The Coelian is more historically accurate than the Ostwind II, and they're adding a premium Ostwind II this update
@@barrag3463 Most useless comment in this thread.
Spookston, in my opinion you are never annoying if you love the RDF/LT (which it seems you do) just talk about it, it's not annoying. In my opinion the 2S38 is better than the RDF/LT and maybe even the HSTVL. Appenrently they just hate US light tanks.
Speak your Opinion, we love you!
the 2S38 is not better than the HSTV-L. can't say anything about the RDF yet
sadly it is @@o-hogameplay185
Not just light tanks, Gaijin hates all US vehicles. They've artificially nerfed Abrams too with recent Hydraulic Pump addition which is misplaced and does not behave as it should. Both Heli and SPAAs are below average, not even CAS is best anymore, Su-34 singlehandedly curved the winrates for Russia to 70%
@@o-hogameplay185 cope weirdo
Agreed I’d love to see content creators like spookston get on gaijens ass a lil more for the shit they do wrong
Gaijin: Nah these documents dont make sense
Also Gaijin: lets add the Beglietpanzer, panther 2, maus and other paper tanks
maus wasn't a paper tank, it was actually made and captured by the soviets, albeit reconstructed from the turret of the prototype 2 and the hull of the prototype 1. maus was "removed" (only acquirable during gaijins birthday) cause it was very hard to balance, cause 6.7 had a lot of tanks that couldnt pen it, and could fight 5.7, 8.7 had heat and apds which made quick work of the maus, and only 7,7 was left, but 7.7 was also quite bad cause it fought both of those things just explained, albeit to a lower level, and they just decided to "remove" it outright.
Gajin trying not to cope that tanks made in the 70s would outperform their new stuff challange:impossible
I initially thought that the 30-year technological lead of the United States was exaggerated, but it is not true.
@陳大文-k9z its more like 50 at this point
What's really impressive is America's at least 100 years ahead of everyone else in brainwashing its subjects.
@@Caramel_exe us makes new vehicles. Out preforms competent. Enemies make a new vehicle to match the us vehicle. Us panics and makes a new vehicle to combats new enemy vehicles. New enemy vehicle is a paper tiger. Repeat
What do you expect from a Russian game🤣
My spookston senses were tingling
i think you're right that this update puts a huge emphasis on generating profit. An example of this is the Tiger package. Both premiums are Tiger H1, but with a pay to win difference. The techtree Tiger has smoke launchers on the hull that prevent it from shooting at an angle, both premium Tigers do not have the launcher.
1:12 Gaijin doesn't want to have another vehicle that can almost fire at the same speed and rate as the Russian 2S38. its all right there.
Actually spitting
that didnt age well
@@Vietnamboi08yep
I wish Gaijin would just say "we don't want to do this because it goes against how we want to balance the game" rather than try to mental gymnastic sources provided to them. Doesn't do anything besides generate bad will when people engage in the system the proper way and they don't give any reasonable explanation for ignoring it
Translation for "how we want to balance the game" - USA can't have anything competitive in Ground top tier and we will nerf it and add more Premiums until winrates hit rock bottom
Usa ground isn't that bad, especially if you use it's cas it's not fair
They're so adamant on "adhering to the sources" but have no problems making changes solely for balancing reasons when they feel like it.
Traction is by far the most egregious example. They nerfed traction into the ground because they couldn't fix their shitty map design.
@@EvenMoreCheese it kinda is given they refuse to give us spall liners and darts still don't shatter properly after all this time making the UFP of the Abrams absolutely worthless compared to every other nations vehicles. I have more fun in my type 90 just because it reloads faster, doesn't need an ace crew, and oddly enough the armor actually seems to work on it, at least compared to any Abrams I've ever had the displeasure of using. And needing to rely on air power isn't a great feeling when I want to play ground battles.
@@EvenMoreCheese USA Ground is bad, USA Air is a whole additional topic
I can imagine Spookston face palming on the buff on both tanks.
Completely agree with Spookston.
They just don’t care anymore, they just want the money.
To reject or not even acknowledge primary sources from players genuinely trying to make the game better for everyone boggles my mind.
Let's be real, they don't care since fucking forever
If they wanted the money they'd have made it OP, with this thing, I'm pretty sure they are just doing it to fuck with Spookston.
@@CatGoesMoo It's not even to fuck with Spookston. The leadership of Gaijin are Russian, and they not only have strong Russian bias, they could literally get in trouble with the dictatorship in Moscow if they don't push Soviet/Russian propaganda. The Kremlin is allergic to reality, and have to keep up the facade that everything the US shits out is overhyped crap and only true Stalinium/Putinium is the best in the world.
A game like WT is strongly in their crosshairs, a light MBT like the RDF/LT capable of penetrating T-80's from the front? That would be devastating to their pride.
Boycott round 2?
This has been true for at the very least 6 years? How is this news to people lmaooo
Spookston yap videos are some of my favorite style of videos on youtube ngl
Gaijin definitely doesn't have a bias against NATO.
They love doing the reload thing to American battleships, so many sources state that the 14 inch gun could reach 2RPM yet they have an aced reload of 1.5RPM because the initial reports stated the combat average reload. They take the max theoretical reload for all other ships, e.g the mutsu and amagi which can reach ABOVE 2RPM while having 16 inch guns, but American battleships, which already have bad armor and speed, and smaller guns, are just gimped because.
I seriously hope nobody is getting their hopes up about Iowa being added. They’re going to gimp it somehow.
I can already see the shitstorm they will cause when they inevitably gimp the Iowa.
Damn, people actually play naval?
@@firesoldier343They'll make the Iowa have the least accurate guns in that mode, you won't even be able to hit islands point-blank.
I think back in the day us tanks all had gimped reloads because they used the slowest reload rate (minimum loader requirement from the furthest/most out of the way ammo) as the aced reload rate
@@curtsauce3947 Naval is surprisingly good for grinding SL, other than that, I find it boring and wouldnt grind it. However I did get the HMS Renown (7.0 or top tier british battleship) from the SL crates during travel suitcase (Other thing I got was Russian imported P63-A5)
The gimped reload is really just so sad
I don't think its conspiracy anymore to say that Gaijin has a favorite child
I wish they added the one with missiles
That would’ve been saucy AF mane!
year 6 of waiting for the R3 missile variant
Funnily enough MTC4 has that conversion for the HSTV-L
@@k1tsun386 Even better is how MTC4 has the upgraded dart ammo as well
So they can fuck that up too?
IS6 irl averaged 20 KmPH on the test track at the factory and yet in game it does twice that and then some.
Well it’s in the Russian tech tree so it can’t be worse than any competing nation. 😂
during the swedish trials for MBTs that gaijin loves using when talking about leo/abrams armour, the t80s had an acceleration that is what the challangers acceleration is ingame. the t80s acceleration ingame 2x-3x better than irl
Spookston! You did it! They upped the rate of fire of BOTH the RDF/LT *and* the HSTV-L!!!!! Keep fighting the good fight!
Gaijin: HSTV-L with 70 rpm is too op.
Also Gaijin: Hear me out, 2S38
the devs are so unbelievably hypocritical yet ignorant, I got dismissed for citing 6 sources (including one directly from BAC) for a Canberra Mk.6 fix years ago and they told me it wasn't enough sources despite 5 being the minimum required for consideration at the time
The only reason im not unhappy about the update is the japanese air tree finally getting some love
13:17, If Renal Failure didn't kill Spooks, a Gaijin induced stroke will.
Knowing that spooks is a midwesterner, that tone of voice may sound not very angry, but you just know, he is beyond mad inside, He is just straight up going nuclear inside.
100%. That is the tone of a midwestern man that has decided to stop giving f***s about the bulls*** he’s dealing with.
-Source: A Wisconsinite
this man is so infuriated he won't tell the snail's employees to have a nice day
this guy's so mad he wants to do chores angrily
brother's so bent out of shape he's gonna build a table explicitly to flip it over
I really like this version of Spookston and the gambling meme was hilarious. This the second video of yours that I re-watched. Multiple times at this point. The other was the 32 kill game.
where’s the og meme from?
@asherwoodrow7471 Some TikTok video as far as I know but I think that was based on some old school meme. Not sure tho.
rdflt content before the actual update is crazy
Chomik
Gaijin screwing over anything and everything about new vehicle to avoid giving the US a decent goddamn Light Tank? Must be a damn Tuesday.
Which is weird, I could've sworn I went to church this morning.
not to mention the xm8 should have been a tech tree tank since it was a taints hair away from adoption.
How many US light tanks have been wasted as premiums and event rewards now. :(
If you think gaijin treats the US bad you are out of your mind. Look at how they treat the UK, Japan and Israel by comparison.
@@johannbezuidenhout2976 i already know japan is gunna get the stingray 1&2 yet here the US is without a true light tank.
@@thatonelocalauthority2809 They treat everything that is not from Russia like shit you pleb, making a point about us light tanks does not negate everything else they do. Multiple things can be true at once not everything is a zero sum game.
No way that Gaijin just buffed both the RDF/LT and the HSTV-L
Gaijin: Does everything to ensure that the american line is neutered to remain "balanced"
Also Gaijin: Does mental gymnastics to ensure that russian ground has as many advantages as it possibly can by accepting any information regardless of source
clear as goddamn day, lads and ladies. at least with wot it's *multiple nations'* high tier premiums fucking you over, instead of... y'know
Germany: „first time?“
@@MaticTheProto HAAAAAA 😭😭😭😭
Certified Russian bias moment
Gaijin are unironically just an arm of the KGB trying to psy-ops gamers into believing Kremlin propaganda.
Video (8) of asking spookston to do a randomized challenge. Essentially a wheel decides almost everything.
List of wheels:
-A wheel that decides the nation.
-a wheel that decides how many vehicles (1-3).
-A wheel that decides the BR. (Maybe like a 1-2 br leniency)
-A wheel that decides what vehicles (air or ground).
Either reroll before every match or just do it once, your choice.
(If you would like me to make the wheels to save you the suffering of making them I would gladly do that.)
Yeah don’t apologize for sounding annoyed 11:24 I quit because of this kinda stuff rubs me wrong
its so dissapointing that they can add classified vehicles and just guess to their stats, but when sources are provided its "clearly a marketing lie". Or the m1128 not being fixed with a source from the ags. or using engagement time which is clearly not reload time. Gaijin is such a disspointment.
Initially, I was actualy very hyped to see that they were going to add the vehicle, and was hoping that it'd be more accurate than their 'version' of the HSTV-L. But now that you've laid out what you've been trying to get fixed with numerous reputable sources, and Gaijin clearly not caring AT ALL, I don't even think that I'll be spending any money on this game anymore.
They've been guilty of cash grabs in the past, but their greed has been growing over the last couple of years with the climbing playercount. But I cannot, under any circumstance, try to support such a business model, knowing that I'd have to spend a triple A game's worth on a vehicle that isn't even historically accurate, nor within respectable levels of 'accurateness.' So, I really understand the rant, especially given that it's one of your favourite vehicles and want it to be represented accurately in-game. Long story short, Gaijin greedy, I'm kinda done.
It is not just greed.Greed would have them model the RDF-LT correctly to get all money.This is russian nationalism and butthurt.
100% in tried of people acting like Russian bias doesn't exist. @@naamadossantossilva4736
@naamadossantossilva4736 when will people stop calling Gaijin Russian when it's actually Hungarian lol 🤦♂️😭
@@PUPPY_KICKERthey started in Russia and were founded by Russians, they moved thier hq to Hungary most likely because of taxes and sanctions
Welcome to the club. I love War Thunder as a concept, but the company ruined it after rug-pulling the early adopters and consistently making the grind worse year over year, when you'd expect them to do the opposite so that people can unlock more stuff/retain player interest....
"they really rushed this thing through" seems to be a very common theme this update
Also how people defend the current HSTV-Ls br is baffling to me. I had an argument with someone over requesting the HSTV-L to be kept at 11.3 in ground RB in the most recent BR changes, only to find out that they have only ever played arcade, and never played above 7.7... They also proceeded to mention that it would be completely unfair for the 2S38 to ever face the HSTV-L in both their current states... I simply do not understand some people, this person had never played nor faced either of these tanks, yet was vehemently attempting to argue their point.
PS love the vidoes as per usual :)
WT Forums is a circus, that's why I always check stats before arguing with someone.
@@INeatFreak Even worse, it was in a youtube comment section. I kept asking for his ingame name as I gave him mine, because I just didn't believe/agree with any of their points. I ended up finding it through their youtube channel, turns out they were a very competant arcade player who spent tens of thousands of matches in low tier shermans. Nothing wrong with that, but they should know better than to comment on topics of which they have 0 experience. They also mentioned the A10C was fine where it was before its battle rating increase...again they had never played air realistic, nor participated in any jet combat.
those types of people are the worst lol.... best thing about War Thunder not letting you have your stats private means you can just see right through the bluster and lies.
"They also proceeded to mention that it would be completely unfair for the 2S38 to ever face the HSTV-L in both their current states"
Also, lol, lmao even...... I've regularly faced 2S38s as they're ALWAYS being taken to 12.0 (as it fights just fine there) and I can say I'd take one over an HSTV-L almost any day of the week, it gets better thermals, can fire off an entire HSTV-L's worth of darts in under 13 seconds without any issue, carries 6x the ammo, carries *better* ammo in almost every regard and ALSO gets the bonus of being artificially low BR, so every top tier kill gives you bonus SP, RP and SL... the same nonsense applies to the BMP-2M, it's artificially low BR so it gets CAS easier at top tier as everything gives you more SP when you're uptiered.
Players: "We have a source to fix X vehicle! please do read it and fix ASAP, it's also straight from the military/company"
Gaijin: "What's that? a western source? one our team magically didn't find? HA! pure misinformation!"
Even was accepted
Theres no fix like JDS Murasame
Literally why the stingers aren't buffed
at the same time flankers and MiG-29s have awful flight models and Gaijin also doesn't want to fix those. This isn't a bias thing, Gaijin just does whatever the fuck they want even if it's against what the sources say.
i like how they fixed the reloads on both today, did they see this ? :D
Gaijin "Just shoot the barrel"
Also Gaijin "I don't think 7kg of tnt hitting a 76mm barrel should turn it yellow"
I love how any argument against gaijin gets shot down. You bring evidence that it exists they just say nah I'ma do my own thing.
I completely agree with spookston i would love if they add the stabilizer to the t95e1 bc it's annoying to not have a stabilizer at that br making it annoying to play
I completely understand your frustration SpooksMan, but at this point is it really a surprise? Leaving aside the memes, can we really say that Gaijin doesn't have Russian Bias? Again! 2S38 is 10.3 same as BMP-2M, let's not forget about the KA-50, etc etc. Keep up the good work, love your videos.
denying Russian bias is kinda just dumb
usually it comes from flawed logic like "they're a company they need to make money by keeping everything balanced!!!" or something like that, almost as if the mr ceo can't waltz into the office and demand to just up the numbers in the configs for russians just bcuz of his delusions or something
@@catritonix Famous russian bias in it's air tree xd. The soivet air tree is about to become the worst air tree in top tier the next update
Thinking Russian bias is a thing is just completely silly. Look at the air. Russian and Soviet planes basically underperform everywhere, their missiles too. Other nations get the early Eurofighters and Rafale, Russia gets an Su-33 (basically a heavier flanker in the context of Warthunder). The thrust vectoring flankers, later MiGs and MiG-31 are overdue and yet haven't been added for no apparent reason.
Genuinely cannot believe they thought that you'd approve of this to the point of name dropping you, I seen that and immediately knew this video would come
I think the snail has finally listened to you since the ROF for both HSTV-L and RDF/LT just got buffed
I feel gaijin nerfed this vehicle specifically to spite Spookston.
I love war thunder but a game thats meant to be based on some of the most historically accurate vechicles and constantly being wrong to the point where TOP SECRET information has to get leaked to get a fix. Yet things that are very very veryyy public knowledge is simple wrong at least 80% of the time, is absolutle bananas
Spookstoon holding the phone: I've won
as much of a meme as it is, you are legitimately the expert on the HSTV-L and RDF-LT in this community, and while i wasnt going to buy it anyway (fuck off $80 premiums), i certainly wont ever in the future. thanks for clarifying the matter
Despite all the nerfs of the RDF/LT on the dev server my biggest concern about buying it is its lack of smoke launchers.
Theres also how quickly the trailer and dev server went out for this update. Like, as of writing this (16th December), there are still "new vehicle" ribbons on the vehicles from the last update. One of the shortest turnovers I've seen.
really not looking forward to this past the turn over time is too short for proper patching and with their history of randomly bricking things they didn't even work on in patches the fact that this will likely be squirted out just a day or two before GAIJIN goes on their Christmas break makes me very concerned what kind of crippling bugs the game is going to be stuck with for 2+ weeks. They didn't *have* to push another update this year.
@@NormandyFoxtrot And to make it even worse, the update is out today.
Mike: I think a certain youtuber will like this vehicle (speak with german accent)
Spookston: *NUH UH*
I love the layout of this video, most other TH-camrs do fine describing why you should or shouldn’t buy premiums but this was actually informative and interesting. Thanks!
Every other nation when something's incorrect: Spookston shrugs
US vehicle that's slight incorrect but still demolishes vehicles: Spookston Smash
Devs admitted they were wrong and changed the reload time, shaddup russia simp.
12:36 from what ive heard they balance vehicles around the average stats of players playing the vehicle (AKA average K/D/A, SL/RP gain and so on when using said vehicle), so its most likely that HSTV-L is used bv better players since it punishes worse players by a lot and that influences the average stat of the vehicle, leaving it in this limbo of being too weak but not getting changed
Welcome to the entire french ground tree
@2goober4u God the state of the French tree is sad. I remember how they massacred it.
Sorry just so I understand correctly, Gaijin is saying they won't increase the reload rate of the RDF/LT because of "balance"... while the 2s38 will be at a lower battle rating, has comparable survivability, arguably a better gun, and a higher fire-rate.
Welcome to War Thunder
And thr 2S38 has literally no official sources or documentation, they just took verbal spec sheets as truth.
Remember this is a prototype one off and russian arms industry lies out it's teeth
Bias thunder
Not "arguably a better gun", it's straight up an upgrade over the 75mm. Not to mention the HSTVL didn't have HE until this year I think? Like they're pretty incompetent when it comes to built, tested, well documented AMERICAN vehicles. But you show them the 2S38 which might as well be non existent and it gets all of it's quirks n stuff day 1
Yes but here’s the thing. It’s Russian
Good to see this video is a showcase of Gaijin’s hypocrisy coming home to roost.
US tanks: Literally all credible sources you could find from the Pentagon and are open sources.
Gaijin: nuh uh that’s not enough.
Russian tanks: Some random Gaijin employee just believe that it would be so cool to add a rail gun and a spaceship engine on a tank.
Gaijin: that’s some credibility right there.
so... painful...
They hate US, they even rejected to add DU armor on the sepv2
It's not even just modern vehicles a bunch of the Soviet prop fighters and bombers are franken vehicles that never actually existed in the configuration in game most prominently almost every LAGG and YAK has more engine power their production variant.
Ur not annoying.
I agree with you tbh.
Keep this type of videos flowing. To be fair you have hella knowledge regarding WT vehicles and theyr history!
14 minutes of Spookston flying off the handle with recipes in his hand. It's so good to have you back!
7:03
No, Spook. It's not rushed. It's purposefully castrated because if it were any good, their precious T-series would actually have in game competition from the US, and we can't have that, now can we?
the US tanks are already better. just because the average US top tier main is worse than the worst germany main with the Tiger, does not mean the tanks are bad
@@o-hogameplay185 There is absolutely no excuse for ignoring real primary sources to bring a vehicle up to its real world functionality.
@o-hogameplay185 yeah. That's why gaijin actively ignores real sources like accurate fire rate from the horses mouth in exchange for shit that matches its preconceived beliefs. Confirmation bias, if you will.
@@jw1343 reload rates are a balancing factor. that's it.
you could also say, "hey, gaijin just ignored this real video where a Leo 2 loader reloads in 2.5s and they did not give the Leo 2 that reload! BIAS4!4!4!"
@o-hogameplay185 saying reload rates is the only balancing factor is an utterly braindead response. Reload rate, pen, ammo count, maneuverability, and ability to engage first (ie, Gen 2-3 thermals, smoke, LRF, etc) all play into it. And when a vehicle has laughable of all, while it's "equivalent" is absolutely busted- there's no leg to stand on here in defense of the quite obvious anti-us sentiment the devs have.
The fact that they didn't even bother to give the HSTV-L an ammo crate really shows you that the Devs are out of touch
Im just so tired of russia getting EVERY SINGLE minor variant or prototype as a techtree vehicle just to bolster their lineups where the US or Germany get jackshit in terms of functionality. The 2S38 is just the cherry on top with shit like the RDF/LT or the Puma VJTF being 11.7 while it sits comfy at 10.3 while being 10x better.
gaijiin is co- sorry, a "Russian Flavored" games company, pal... it's to be expected.
@@ratte6090 It's worse than that. Their community manager is literally a Kremlin plant.
dude what did you smoke? where can i buy it?
I wish they gave the African TTD the 120mm variant that was designed
>while it sits comfy at 10.3 while being 10x better.
But thats not true? 2S38 is one of the worst performing vehicles around that BR for russia
YES! A Spookston Gaijin rant!
Ur getting touched
We need the content creators to actually stand up to Gaijin. They keep making the game worse and nobody seems to genuinely care
Awesome video, I like the deep dive into the technical.
Remember with the Yak-141 they just said "war thunder is a game about what could be possible" when its IRST didn't physically fit the internal volume. By that logic surely the mere existence of a better round from the same program should be enough grounds for the HSTVL to at least get that, same with the reload rate really.
Where there is contention or 2 versions it should simply be an unlockable module. Should be the same for aircraft engines, you name it. If there are several versions.
Angery dog barks at snail with facts and knowledge
They actually fixed the reload on both of them. The RDF is 0.9 seconds, and the HSTVL is 1 second now.
Also, the RDF has its speed set to 64 km per hour now. My question, though, is if the reverse speed on it should be 12 km per hour.
"the RDF sucks"
people that have never played the HSTV-L: but it has 60 rounds
oh right, i am so glad the BVM and T-90M sides can now eat 60 rounds instead of 26
also, we know who rejected the report, it was 100% trickzzter, i guarantee it. he's absolutely the reason they decided to hide who's who in the forums.
I'm surprised they haven't been fired for their actions.
@@panzerlite8108 Because they want him to act exactly like he does.
“Historically accurate “
They did it to spite you my boy.
When you talking about balance, Gaijin chose realistic
When you talking about realistic, Gaijin chose balance
Games made by Russia (and other former Soviet countries) always help me understand why the Soviet Union disintegrated
meanwhile the fucking 2S38 sits at 10.3
because it is where it belongs
@@o-hogameplay185why are you defending the 2s38 so much? I own it too, but I understand that it doesn't belong at 10.3.
@@curtsauce3947I have a 2s38 as well, you can put it literally anywhere in top tier and it WILL do well. It is that good BR changes literally can't affect it negatively, it dies easily no matter what but it's gun can still pen and disable anything it faces at top tier.
@@curtsauce3947 because they are a bad player who thinks that the reason they get shat on in it is because of the tank
@@curtsauce3947he's defending it because he bought it lol