How to Mix Audio for Live Streaming | A Guide for Churches
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My church is using the XR18. That diagram actually helped me to think through my approach to signal flow in our mixer more clearly. Thanks for talking through and demonstrating everything in a clear, concise way.
Always good to mic the folks asking questions.
This is awesome 👍. Many thanks for taking enough time to explain in detail how to get the lovely desired mix. God bless you 🙏🙏🙏
perfect audio class for live stream, i'm from brazil thank you very much
This is beautiful
When ever you give a presentation like this it’s a good to repeat the question back to the audience so that all in the audience and on the recording can hear and understand the questions. Or as another comment have a mic for the questioner.
Or the TH-cam member with a masters degree in watching TH-cam videos lol
Thank you! We have similar setup, one soundguy to tackle live and live stream via one mixer (Allen Heath).
Our church venue is school auditorium hall. What I noticed is the livestream version (I am listening to TH-cam to check) is very sensitive or picks up the reverb/ delay effects a lot compared to what I hear live, especially for vocals. That’s why my reverb fader is very low, it’s like -35db. Anything more is too much in livestream. That’s the weird part because I still want to get more to fill the live venue but then the livestream suffers. I appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Great tips you gave, thanks.
I am really grateful for this video indeed it's educative and easy to understand thank you guys
Very helpful!
Personally found the parallel compression idea useful for drums. I do it all the time in my daw, but not for our live stream. It might help dial in a better drum sound. I've also found gating to be hit or miss with drums, with pumping that is sometimes created. Though I wouldn't be able to do a completely dry drum mix since there is compression on each of those channels as well. I believe he could get a better mix out of the X32. Personally, I found the bass drum not deep enough and the bg vocals too loud, and the eg/keys could be higher in the mix. I would also hard brick limit the live stream since that's going to happen anyway with the streaming platforms. You do lose some control with this method of matrix mixing vs. doing it on the individual channels with pre-fader aux sends.
very informative!
Hi Church front, great video... It would be great if you can share the scene, so we can actually take a deep dive on this configuration. Thank you very much.
Helpful info on workflow and signal flow for volunteers etc. Not sure about the sound of that mix though.
Very helpful 👍
Hello Churchfront, so I'm mixing from front house with an analog mixer, and I'm using AUX for broadcasting in a separate room, so my question is, how do I set levels from foh for AUX broadcasting output audio, is there a certain level I should set the master sending to the broadcasting AUX.
I really hope you guys had an accidental polarity invert somewhere in down the line when recording the console outs for this recording, because otherwise, the phase issues this mix faces are severely audible. I ran this video through a goniometer out of curiosity, and sure enough the mix is very clearly in the red for poor phase.
The audio from the presentation console is going straight to the recording console, as well as his condenser headset mic.
Does you guys have a separate mixer for live streaming and in-house sound system?
This is an older video now, but would you advise against mono buses vs stereo buses? Our FOH is primarily mono with stereo side fills, so panning is light if at all. Or does that spacial differentiation make that much of an effect?
Hi Guys, this is awesome video. My question is about in ears and buses being used for live streaming. What is you
Adam how do you play music into x32 compact mixer from a win 10 pc like mp3s threw the mixer usb
Hey guys,
Did you mute the crowd mics when then band stopped playing or did you leave the crowd mics always on during the entire service?
Is there a link of the next session anywhere using the DAW? I couldn’t find it
thank you
Wait…. 1 method is to sweep search and destroy. What about if you don’t have a system that has that feature?
For example on our board (Roland V-mixer M300) we can’t do that. All we can do is move around our little Dot and leave it at a frequency of our choice so what do you do then?
How did you route the effects to the live stream
Do you route your drum FX or vocal FX returns into your bus for drums or vocals?
46:04 this is the first moment in the video I see levels set for LUFS vice -18. How did you achieve that? @churchfront
did the next session come out??? for Mixing in a DAW??
Nice tutorial I enjoy watching it. How ever I notice he didn't explain about loudness. Where is the limiter at? Your mix on this video translate very nice thru headphones and in my speakers in the truck. And believe it or not The X32 mix sounds better than the one on the DAW. Also he never explain about how he did the FX on the bus. I figured it out by looking on your bus mix . He said he would explain and he never did. 😃 I realize this was a basic tutorial for people that want to learn but if you miss important information like the limiter on the matrix instead of a stereo enhancer people will be confuse and will ask : Why my mix is not loud enough online? Why do I clip the input of the stream software ? I have no control etc.
Wow, I was the 1000th like. That was satisfying 😂
The DAW mix is a great way to go, probably the best way to go but what about faders? Please do some kind of a video explaining how to do it where you have fader control just like a mixing console.
I would love to do a broadcast mix in a DAW, but I need to be able to access faders with either faders or an iPad control like a mixer. So please make a video explaining how you do the fader so that we can do delay throws and listen and respond to the music just like a live mix
You can use a midi controller like the presonus faderport for example
Why is the bass guitar going to the mono bus then goes to the instrument bus and the instrument bus goes back to the mono bus so the bass is going to the mono twice...?
How can a preEQ chanel be sent to a bus? Thanks
What if our Busses are already being used mostly by In-Ear monitors? Still wanting to try to create a Matrix out for Livestream and it sound good.
We bought an x32 rack for the in ear monitors. All the signals are copied to that mixer from the main console and the musicians have an app on their phones to control their own personal mix...works great.
how can i get his scene ?
Hi , I from Malaysia. My church don't have Digital Mixer. May I know how do I use Allen & Heath GL2400-432 & Yamaha MGP24X to Mix for do Live Streaming?
You can buy a two channel audio interface, so you could send stereo or mono mix from the console to the interface and then connect it to the computer
It will depend on how the console works with the outs sends but that is how a basic broadcasting could work
My english is not too good, please sorry for that
Hope this was helpful
God bless
I was using two on the same channel
What if we use the buses for in ears? How can I get more buses for the live streaming? Or if I use a computer as a another mixing board with Dante will that work?
More buses not. :) Only p16 ultranet give u some option but not much. And Yes, Pc is good for mix via Dante card or usb output of x32 and daw return to mix,...
This seems like very useful information, but I couldn't get past the reversed polarity of the multi tracks. It is perfectly out of phase, messes with my ears on my studio monitors
It would be great if y’all could share that scene 😂 Ik i would pay for it. Think about it 😉
100% Agree
Good job. I do feel like u could’ve broke down the difference between Busses and DVA groups a lil more simplified. Overall this is GREAT AWESOME!!
I can't find DAW MIX video tutorial please
But if we set all buses as post fader then it will be affecting all the IEM. Isnt it better to leave the IEM mix buses as prefader to allow personal mixes?
Yes. Don't monkey with your IEM mix buses.
Ah man. I wish that companies could let us do a setting for the main mix and another one for the live stream. 😫
I didn't learn really much new because I have a very similar workflow. Good to see that others do it that way too 🤗
Great info -only distraction is lots of "umms" and "ahhs" otherwise this man is an excellent speaker!
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a shame the audio is out of phase
Parallel compression on the X32? ...
Mix knob or double patch and mix
@@marianojrivera8101 is not as simple as that if you process with compression you create latency on those signals so it's going to be a delay or latency so then when you're going to mix with the unprocessed signals in parallel , you're going to have comb filtering on the sum, the x32 doesn't compense latency as far as i know ...
@@willcastilloe that's why he uses stock channel compression not the plugins from FX rack. This way you'll not have this comb filtering thing.
@@barbuk_events even the stock channel compression adds delay in the proccess , neither onboard or external latency is compensated for.
@@willcastilloe it's not noticeable with stock compression.
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Why am I watching a video on mixing audio for live stream when the audio on the video is terrible?
Because the most expert already on the stage😂 the one who record maybe is just a new student.
@@user-zr5xy5pv8w , presumably, he isn't the only speaker for the event and could have worked on the audio issues when he wasn't on stage.
There is phase issue, in the end It was fixed but turning off fx
Why not use subgroups for some those buses? I guess these younger guys that didn't start until digital consoles don't know what a sub group is.
on the X32, busses are groups that audio pass through and are affected by - there's an ability to put bus compression and other processing on busses. a DCA is a subgroup that is like a giant group volume that virtually turns up or down all channels at the same time in a relative manner. The busses also can be routed to a matrix where as I don't believe DCAs can be routed in that way. I'm old enough that I cut my teeth on an Allen and Heath GL2400 with outboard compressors and time-based FX units ;)
I believe the reason is they may not realize that it is possible on that board. I have mine set up with the submixes, but I also have a dedicated board for mixing the broadcast separate from the FOH.
For clarification to Adam, on the X32 the submixes are not the DCA's. Instead of setting the buses to pre or post fade you set them as submixes.
@@adam_churchfront A DCA is not a subgroup. A DCA is a remote control to a fader. Not to be confuse. On a mix bus you can control the amount you want to send to it. On a subgroup you can't do that. And yes on the x 32 you can make a mixbus a subgroup.
Um...
Hmmm. Seems this person has spoken to or read from me about a thing or two lol.
It’s generally better to put compression after eq. This way you won’t have to spend your time cutting out all of the compressed frequencies.
Doesn't seem like you had an audience mic set up😂
One thing I’m noticing now is that a lot of audio engineers think that you have to have some degree or be a specific job title before you can tune the PA. I’m so old that we used to have to do it ourselves and then mix the show or event or whatever you wanna call it
I love the teaching but with all the ummms and “we will get to” it was exhausting to listen to and seemed like it took him so long to get to the points.
He has great knowledge but seemed nervous.
Cringe, very amateur mixing but useful for your weekly Sunday audio person
Do you have a mix we can listen too? Would love to hear something you did! Maybe a church TH-cam channel or something?
@@FiresideCC Nope, he doesn’t lol. Imagine him not responding after calling this “amateur”
@@thetruthsetsyoufree5000 LOL exactly. Smells like a troll to me 🤣
what an embarrasing band to mix in a class like this. Those vox are just gross. MELODYNe!!!!
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