Should you Master Alchemy in WOTLK Classic?

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  • @Scottejaye
    @Scottejaye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If you wondered what was going on with the zooming in and out on stuff for the first half of the video, SO AM I! In pre render its fine, it zooms in and stays on what I am talking about. Post render it loops the zoom. Bizarre issue i will have fixed before the next video. Sorry guys and gals. Hope it didn't ruin the video too much for you.

    • @alistairbolden6340
      @alistairbolden6340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like alch on a rogue in Wotlk paried with engi. Alch is very overpowerd in pvp. The extra time on the flasks is nice to save some gold and if you are doing a lot of content solo, the extra 40% from a healing flasks can be better than 100 extra passive AP from a better trinket.
      You can also macro vanish equipt trinket/drink potion/swap back to dps trinket. The whole thing takes 1 global cooldown trigged by drinking the pot. Endless potion is flat out amazing in battlegrounds, allowing you to spam drink over and over without the large gold cost of Ruinic potions.
      If I were a paladin tank I would also go alch 100%, they burn mana like no tomorrow in heroics much better to tap endless mana after each combat than sit down and drink.

  • @Midinette-bu2xq
    @Midinette-bu2xq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Don't waste your time doing the xmute or elixir quests regardless of which spec you want to be. The potion quest is easy and cheap, and then once you complete it (or any of them) you can drop that spec and talk to the any of the other npcs and swap for a fee.

    • @JohnRock14
      @JohnRock14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great information 👍

    • @cooky9096
      @cooky9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its 150 to swap. If your server is anything like mine and you want to main xmute master you may aswel just buy 4 primal might at 55g each

    • @Shiralyn
      @Shiralyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i did that for my transmute spec. 4 primal might are more than the 150g so that was way easier and cheaper. same wit hthe mats for the potions - super easy to make, unlike elixier, everything needs terocones lol

    • @emrahe468
      @emrahe468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the best comments under a youtube video, ty friend

  • @michaelcoffey1991
    @michaelcoffey1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You for the information :). I had never done this profession

  • @__gavin__
    @__gavin__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Worth noting that you can switch specializations for 150g, so depending on price of Primal Might it might be worth going Potion Master then spending 150g to switch to Transmute Master.

  • @simlion88
    @simlion88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video m8.
    I think you covered most of the important stuff. Another alchemy item that can be worth mentioning is the Endless Mana Potion. It only takes 10 runic mana potions to make, and once you have made it, it never runs out and you will have a tbc, super mana potion equivalent potion that restores 1800-3000 mana every minute. I play as an arcane mage, and although I would probably prefer to use the runic mana potions on raidbosses, the endless one is gonna be really handy to have while levling, and doing dungeons and out in the world, being able to pop a free potion every minute. I do believe that the alchemy trinket can be really good for arcane mages too, as we will still be quite mana hungry, and the only downside to arcane that I hear being mentioned for them in wotlk is not being able to sustain their mana too well post T7, but items such as this really helps out with that.

    • @DiogoMartins028
      @DiogoMartins028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you need potion master to make the endless mana pot?

    • @DrRhyhm
      @DrRhyhm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DiogoMartins028 no

  • @dwarni5968
    @dwarni5968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another big benefit are endless health and mana potions. You can craft these and they work like a mana potion or health potion but have endless usages, so you'll save a lot of gold, especially as a healer since mana potions are quite expensive.
    Flask of the North won't be availabel until Trial of the Crusader Patch so in P3

  • @Epicdps
    @Epicdps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That Alchemist trinket is always handy to swap to when popping potions out of combat inbetween pulls etc

    • @Scottejaye
      @Scottejaye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Good point that mate, never even thought about that tbh

    • @d0k0night
      @d0k0night 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know if we'll see everyone pop pots on out-of-combat when it's cheaper to sit and drink water/food.

    • @Epicdps
      @Epicdps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d0k0night As an Enhancement Shaman I often buy Super or even Major Mana Potions for extremely cheap on fresh Wrath servers to spam in dungeons, it's extremely mana hungry with glyph of fire nova and spamming those pots is a blessing

    • @patatejambom6310
      @patatejambom6310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d0k0night endless mana potion so ,.why not on a macro its fine.

  • @blind3917
    @blind3917 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got back to wotlk classic after hitting 80 on release years ago, glad to know i chose a great profession to work with.

  • @lepakage2
    @lepakage2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been watching your videos for a while. Solid content and I probably forgot to hit the like button as often as I should’ve. As always thanks for the solid info

  • @KrisBruus
    @KrisBruus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video, been looking forward to it!

  • @dhamongrimwulfe5401
    @dhamongrimwulfe5401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Was jc / alch rogue in wotlk will be again. Also the flask of the north was useable in arenas. 😁

  • @lochvast1180
    @lochvast1180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta say the endless healing and mana potions are a really nice perk. I macro it in with my hearthstone and use it freely in BGs

  • @bigfattim6491
    @bigfattim6491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work Scotte!

  • @nocaves5070
    @nocaves5070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video from the encyclopaedia of wow. Love u brother

  • @DeanWhipper
    @DeanWhipper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Way ahead of you big dog. 5 transmute masters and counting, will roll another with the expected 68 boost.
    Love your work

    • @klonzoll3920
      @klonzoll3920 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is that a good way to farm gold?

    • @DeanWhipper
      @DeanWhipper 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@klonzoll3920 You're pretty late to the party lol, but yes it's one of the best ways to grind gold passively.
      You log in once per day and do the transmute, sell it, rinse repeat. Think I made 200k~ during LK doing it.

    • @klonzoll3920
      @klonzoll3920 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DeanWhipper do I need it to combine it with JC?

    • @DeanWhipper
      @DeanWhipper 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@klonzoll3920 I probably made another 100k selling meta gems that I was crafting, so yes it works pretty well.
      You only need a single JC to cut the gems though, could get a friend to do it.

  • @othellosmistake
    @othellosmistake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 2 alchemists. One potion. One transmute. That looks to still be a good route.

  • @minmaxpowers
    @minmaxpowers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Id love to see a 70 alt gold making video through professions. Can a 70 make the good transmutes, and can a 70 tailor get mastery for some cloth? Are there other 70 gold making profs in wrath?

    • @Scottejaye
      @Scottejaye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Definitely coming VERY soon mate, in the next couple of weeks for sure.

    • @jonathonvoegtli4699
      @jonathonvoegtli4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By 65 you can max wrath professions. So a level 65 can be a cloth master alt in wrath and a level 68 can be alchemy for specialization. Can level mining almost all at 70 (would be hard) to get titansteel transmutes. In my opinion the best you can do is level 68 transmute master/tailor for alts.

    • @i.r6990
      @i.r6990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathonvoegtli4699 I had a miner and skining 80 farmer and ac/herb 70 drood to cover potion making and all gathering.

  • @jaco9206
    @jaco9206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the most profitable Alchemy mastery at short term?

  • @joedarling5175
    @joedarling5175 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah my shaman is ele and will probably dabble in resto. Already LW and Alchemy on it. Thinking they will have strong synergy.

  • @peliuxarn6660
    @peliuxarn6660 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does transmute cooldown get removed with ICC patch? I heard the tailoring cooldown gets removed.

  • @thatpvpguy90
    @thatpvpguy90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you make a video on returning players looking to farm up stuff wrath please? I'm low on the gold leveling up alts and pumping profs. Any other tips?

    • @jonathonvoegtli4699
      @jonathonvoegtli4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At this point don't focus on tbc raiding. We are a week away from ZA release which just leaves sunwell which I personally have no interest in progressing through. At this point in TBC focus on how best to prepare for wrath. Get alts leveled. Get materials for profession changes you want or get the professions set. You will want epic flying bought and atleast 3000 gold per toon. (cold weather and duel spec) These are the main things I'm focusing on. Really wrath will be baby mode for most of us who have put in the work through classic and tbc with easier professions and 2 tiers of raiding per raid tier.

    • @thatpvpguy90
      @thatpvpguy90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathonvoegtli4699 thanks for the advice! Currently pumping profs and alts. Still no gold I keep dumping it to level profs.

    • @jonathonvoegtli4699
      @jonathonvoegtli4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatpvpguy90 that's fine tbh. Get epic flying on your wrath main and 3k extra for flying and duel spec. Alot can be gotten easily come sunwell with dailies I think it could be 100g a day. Wrath will be the flood gates of people pooring out gold early expansion. Honestly gold is such a small factor in the game once you have all your flying speeds.

    • @evoknz
      @evoknz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathonvoegtli4699 Except if the gdkp meta stays, which will probably. Gold will matter A LOT

  • @juriansan
    @juriansan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Become transmute master for 5 primal then just switch for gold to what you want.

    • @Scottejaye
      @Scottejaye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea i went over that strategy in the TBC alchemy guide actually. Doing this at 80 though you'll solo BM and botanica and save a decent chunk of gold

  • @Valvad0ss
    @Valvad0ss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are awesome I’ve enjoyed this and all your other vids please more hahaha 💚💚💚💚 much love

    • @Scottejaye
      @Scottejaye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤️❤️❤️

  • @nicholaszwicker1352
    @nicholaszwicker1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Scott, great vid as always. Do you know the minimum player level required to transmute the saronite to titanium as well the epic gems? Using alchemy on the alt but don't want to bother leveling it to much if I don't have to!

    • @Eddyyy09
      @Eddyyy09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever find an answer for this? Thanks :)

    • @dongolio
      @dongolio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Think you need lvl 68 to get max profession level in Wotlk. This is for alchemy.

  • @lawless7859
    @lawless7859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good guide here

  • @chrismerritt9664
    @chrismerritt9664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alch on a resto shaman is amazing!

  • @pcmnoname
    @pcmnoname 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally someone acknowlidging me as a cow-player!

  • @vnix2932
    @vnix2932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do making titanium bar in mining also have a Cooldown?

    • @Scottejaye
      @Scottejaye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No mate, thats why i find the alchemy cooldown being so long for a single bar being ludicrous lol. Its nearly a full stack of saronite ore to transmute to 1 titanium bar, you need 3 bars to make 1 titansteel which DOES have a cooldown. So even if there was a million titanium bars available the supply of titansteel is still throttled by the CD. Just my opinion ofc, not saying its right

    • @vnix2932
      @vnix2932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Scottejaye Thank you :) Just thinking of what would be the best to transmute till epic gems are out. Thinking meta gems atm, but guess we'll have to wait and see what demands on stuff will be :)

    • @jonathonvoegtli4699
      @jonathonvoegtli4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vnix2932 meta gems if not completely flooded will be a good choice.

  • @coza10
    @coza10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have any videos or links that show which tbc recipes can still skill you up as soon as wrath releases to prepare mats for easy skill points? i don't have herbalism on my alchemist :D

  • @004947
    @004947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do u need to be a master of transmute to be able to transmute in wrath ? or are u able to do all specs of alch ?

  • @Trefort90
    @Trefort90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, what's the minimum char level to be able to do the transmutes? I found somewhere it could be lvl 75, but I'm not sure. Thanks

  • @sterger7
    @sterger7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I don't get it, do you have to be a transmute master to do the daily transmute of a gem to make the 200 gold? Does the transmute master just give you a chance to what..proc an extra gem? doubtful....which is the most ideal for gold?

    • @sig789
      @sig789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Transmute master gives a chance to proc an extra transmute. Since it's on a cooldown it happens less often but the items are usually worth a lot

    • @sterger7
      @sterger7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sig789 holy cow so the 10 gold gem in lich king that you transmute daily into a 200 gold gem can sometimes double? insanity...surely everyone will do this and the value will plummet:)

    • @sig789
      @sig789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sterger7 Its not guaranteed to proc and since it's once a day many people prefer trying to proc potions or elixir/flasks

    • @sterger7
      @sterger7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sig789 Sorry for all the questions..sure you aren't guarnateed to get the 'extra' one but you get the base 1 at least. If you had 10 alts...that's almost 2k gold a day crazy...what prevents people from just rolling 10 death knights on their account (since they start at level 68?) and train them all as alchemists?

    • @sig789
      @sig789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sterger7 dks start at 55 I believe and it's expensive/energy intensive to level alch to max. Not to say it couldnt be done for money!

  • @CalmDownGiik
    @CalmDownGiik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bots spam farming all of the Frost Lotus and keeping an IRON GRIP on the price of them on AH is going to be rough for Alch. Think about how Black Lotus was or Mana Thistle before you could buy flasks from the vendor in Shatt. Finding a Frost Lotus will be 1 in a million since they are already rare plus bots. Same as Black Lotus was, only found 1 in then entirety of classic.

    • @dontreplytome5665
      @dontreplytome5665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait really?? I found atleast 5 every weekend when I would farm for flasks before next reset for raid night

    • @jordanedwards2714
      @jordanedwards2714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dontreplytome5665 if u play at 3am im not as surprised m8 but yes Black lotus was rare on some servers if not most/all

    • @orang3096
      @orang3096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly in about a day of questing, I've managed to get a stack of them. They aren't as rare as people said they were.

  • @galihsamudra2494
    @galihsamudra2494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats is the bst alche master ? potion, elixir, or transmute ?

  • @rankoneneet2273
    @rankoneneet2273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im currently elixir master, is potion master better just for the hast pots?

  • @DonPaluso
    @DonPaluso 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am not able to pick up quest from zangarmash playing wotlk. i need to be max alch : i am 425 and still not able to pick them up

  • @faturciomas2014
    @faturciomas2014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you mean in wotlk alchemy can get 3 master pot,elixer and transmute?or just have to choose 1 like tbc.

  • @JRTIntervencion
    @JRTIntervencion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you yourself got in the alchemist lab for this video! :P

  • @ironox99
    @ironox99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Im eng and alch can I macro haste gloves from eng and haste pot from alch to pop both for 800+ haste?

  • @vladooku
    @vladooku 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    any ideea if tbc cauldrons are still discoverable in wotlk?

    • @howardkatz4302
      @howardkatz4302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think new cauldrons exist anymore

  • @ivangeorgiev3301
    @ivangeorgiev3301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So fam i chose the elixir mastery but didnt finish it i want to switch to transmite how to do it ?

  • @dampo2754
    @dampo2754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What level does one need to be to max out a profession?

  • @frederickgilbert6840
    @frederickgilbert6840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what level do you need to be to learn grandmaster tailor?

  • @cooky9096
    @cooky9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really hoping there is a cooldown from the start. Sitting on 18 chars all with alchemy/tailor. Been a big time investment thats for sure

    • @jarlfisk
      @jarlfisk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whale 😂 🐋

    • @jason3417
      @jason3417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I have a bunch of alts as well with alchemy/tailoring. Though I've been considering switching Tailoring to mining just for titansteel. Unsure which one fairs better longer

    • @Scottejaye
      @Scottejaye  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Both end up losing their cooldowns later down the line, I always lean more towards titansteel over cloth but that’s just me 🤷‍♂️

    • @cooky9096
      @cooky9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have 3 rogue miners from doing mana tombs runs. I just think with the cloth specialisation making w cloth it will be more profitable. But it all depends on supply and demand so who knows till the day

    • @jason3417
      @jason3417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cooky9096 I feel like unlike TBC tailoring, there's gonna be a lot less BiS items from Wotlk Tailoring. And with a culture of min maxing, most of the below bis items will just be thrown to oil prince alts. Though tbh, I haven't confirmed any of that, I just haven't heard of any Frozen Shadoweave/Spellstrike equivalent.

  • @spaceorbison
    @spaceorbison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess what I got it on my resto druid!

  • @LandTorpedo69
    @LandTorpedo69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I get all hyped up and switch to transmute master from elixir master then realize transmuting is literally worthless in phase 1.

  • @Kokaloki
    @Kokaloki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    which spec generates the most gold?

  • @nofear7578
    @nofear7578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    transmute titanium gives me a net profit of -35 gold:P

  • @Cidran100
    @Cidran100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome bro

  • @bernalbarrantes8037
    @bernalbarrantes8037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also theres a Bag that only alchemist can open as Freya Loot 😎👌

  • @bobbins5037
    @bobbins5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those who don't want to level 500 alts and max professions on all of them for the pixel money, can't you make decent bank from Alchemist from all the masteries?
    I recall the 15 second potions being valuable to sell for the progress /speed run guilds (particularly the haste potion) where you could make great money proccing those. And flasks are always in demand because, flasks.

  • @mattduckshalos
    @mattduckshalos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info. I do have a couple questions. If you were to go hard on alchemy alts, they would have to be level 65? And max level alchemy (450?) for most of the recipes?

    • @cooky9096
      @cooky9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      65 would be a minimum. But you would want them all at 68 to be transmute master

    • @mattduckshalos
      @mattduckshalos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cooky9096 Oof. Ok yeah that makes sense. Forgot about that somehow. And would you happen to know the answer to if alchemy 450 is necessary? Cause that probably won't be cheap.

    • @cooky9096
      @cooky9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No the transmute titanium is 395. So say your at 375 from tbc just make afew mama potions or something to assist with leveling on main and you should hit 395 pretty easily. That goes grey at 440. The epic gems require 450 but they arnt available right away

    • @jonathonvoegtli4699
      @jonathonvoegtli4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cooky9096 titanium might have a cd to start. I personally plan on getting to 430 for meta gems transmutes which will be much more profitable anyways if there is a cool down on titanium.

  • @sterger7
    @sterger7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So...until phase 3 of lich king..the transmute thing with 10 alchemist alts really won't make much eh

  • @Taximoris
    @Taximoris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Life saver!!

  • @Foxmizou
    @Foxmizou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why Alchemy is not that good for arenas or PvP like JC or other profession ?

  • @corylacamp5762
    @corylacamp5762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Blazers!!

  • @farhanbaig404
    @farhanbaig404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From a pure money making perspective, which alchemy mastery will be the most profitable in Wotlk?

    • @houdini3414
      @houdini3414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My prediction is potion master, spam creating haste and wild magic potions.

  • @Canbilly2
    @Canbilly2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still going eng/jc and eng/bs

  • @ZaeBae22
    @ZaeBae22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bruh wtf is with all the zooms

  • @stabbinstaben7059
    @stabbinstaben7059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this video aged poorly with the boxes smashing alchemy into shite

  • @rohleek5939
    @rohleek5939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you need to be flask master or how its called to get the infinite flask thing? Or can i be a potion master and still use it? Might miss it in the video @scottejaye

  • @Rosati363
    @Rosati363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GO HOME ZOOM! YOU'RE DRUNK!