If the Emperor had a Podcast - Episode 1: The Last Church
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Can we take a second to point out that Magnus is such a good dad that his kids were worried enough to swallow their pride and ask emps if he’s seen him.
Like son unlike father
I would like to point out that Magnus actually had his personality shattered and had his compassion destroyed. I think this side is still missing, which is why the current Magnus we have is the 'Crimson King'. Before that, he gave up his eye and let himself be shattered to save his children from the warp- as well as psionically connected to his legion so closely that they literally knew each other on a mental level.
The big worry is that, the Compassion side destroyed itself. Magnus therefore should be entirely incapable of Compassion- which he has not shown in the TTS series.
@@hudhouse99 I think it's in Kitten
@@chiggerwood Compassion I think is like a force, same with anger, kind of like choas. It's something grown within humans and other entities over time and it can be destroyed and created at will, but with caveats that the being in question isn't actively squashing attempts to create it.
The theory out there that I've heard most often is that his good side got funneled into Kaldo Draigo.
"What do you mean you're conflicted? You had good points." I love how Uriah is frustrated by the Custodes' inability to argue against him.
Trolldrool Uriah’s actually the reason I love Chaos so much! He *wants* someone to be able to match him and keep up because it keeps him sharp, keeps him from growing dull and always helps to reinforce his faith as the gods grow from conflict as he does.
He’s the reason I began to consider Chaos to be such a cool conceptual army as they’re divided yet united all at once.
@@wyvernnemecek595 he is wrong though, have you ever been to the pleasure planet, or met a chaos marine?
@@mynameudste He's only wrong if you use examples which were made *specifically to mess with the Imperium* .Chaos is made from everything that is sapient-the good, the bad and the ugly.
The Pleasure Planet is an example of the ugly, whereas Chaos Space Marines are diverse. We've seen that a couple World Eaters are making to be more than mindless savages, the Alpha Legion has astartes of all loyalties, and any singular marine can change their mind based on personality as was proven by the Thousand Sons who met the Ancient of Rites.
It's not a question of right or wrong, my friend, it's a question of nuance and preference.
@@wyvernnemecek595 the alpha legion and thousand sons weren't corrupted like the other legions. If you take any scenario with a loyalist and a traitor, for example rylanor and thrice dammed fulgrim, the loyalist is almost always in the right and stronger willed (not succumbing to corruption)
@@mynameudste You realize that the Emperor only jumped into the fray *during* the Age of Strife, right? He let humanity run its course in search of glory, refinement, progress and contentment before then which had allowed mankind to reach its pinnacle.
During the Great Crusade, so named in hypocritical atheism, the Emperor gave power to a religious zealot alongside a raging berserker, an information-hungry scholar, an arrogant espionage artist and a bigoted furry who all happened to be his sons. That's what's called Nepotism, one of the most disgusting kinds of corruption known to mankind.
Traitor Astartes were those who'd been shown an alternative, one where the Emperor wasn't in charge. As it stands, it could've worked solely on the fact that Horus had shown great aptitude for leadership as well as management of large numbers. The same goes for Guilliman, whom proved that the Emperor didn't have to be in command for success to occur. The traitor Primarchs turned for moronic reasons yet nonetheless did they fight against a tyrant who used neither logic nor reason to rule, but brute force and psychic affluence. Adding to that, their sons are the ones who matter more than they do given that the Primarchs are all but useless in the greater narrative, proven by Rylanor's impact. Rylanor was a fine example of the Imperium's best, yet he's still a singular light in an abysmal government built on failure, and nonetheless fed Slaanesh by obsessing over the attempt to murder Fulgrim.
If it were a matter of good and bad, the Imperium would be a villain wearing a white hat and offering candy to children because of how poorly it treats its citizens, its military and its neighbors. Chaos, meanwhile, welcomes xenos and offers everyone equal opportunity towards success with the understanding that failure is rewarded with pain. Chaos, at its heart, is the right and willingness to experience what we call *emotion* ! When stripped of emotion to use only logic and reason, we become naught but cruel executioners whose only goal is victory, something which Chaos doesn't wish to see. Yes, the Great Game is a neverending feud where everyone's looking to one-up the other, yet that's the *point* ! Even as they bicker and squabble, the gods are nonetheless working towards a common goal of *continuing emotional experience* ! They're fluid, even at their most concrete do they weave and bob to suit the environment in which they're a part.
Notice how Uriah didn't call it the Horus Heresy but the Inter-legionary wars? I thought that was an incredibly consistent detail to his argument.
He has better respect for separation of church and state than the Emperor and he's a Chaos priest for Christ's sake.
@@concept5631
Don't you mean, Sanguinius's sake?
I'll show myself out.
@@hisokamorow6709 Uriah: *sighs in Emps hate-boner*
@@concept5631 are we really calling Horus having a hissy fit separation of state?
@@ouchiegiverjr he said separation of chuch and state and he was referring to Uriah not Horus
1:29:52 I always like to think that that noise after Uriah says, "Tacos aren't even that good..." is the Emperor's neck snapping around to look at him.
so im not the only one
nice
He was that offended
@@Lieutenant_Volkov It was mean to be a pen dropping.
I had a lot of respect for Uriah until he said that, ngl.
I'm shocked the emperor didn't erase Uriah like he did Horus for daring to insinuate Tacos weren't good. That is the least he could do.
Why do I get the feeling that 'Chaos Uriah' would make for a much more interesting villain against the Imperium then Abbadon the Harmless ever would?
Cause he has a brain that he uses and can construct intelligent arguments on the spot?
@@marsar1775 also his arms dont fall off
he's not even a villain, methinks. He can change opinions, is articulate, intelligent, patient and accomodating.
@@GeorgeTsiros The best "Villain", someone that isn't entirely wrong, but whose approach hinders you to a point that they become impossible to ignore. "Villain" only by perspective.
He has no reason to be a villain. Hes just a guy worshipping chaos, hes not the same as the daemon hordes. If anything, hes the perfect example of why chaos isnt a purely antagonistic force.
I noticed how the kid barely even got nervous in this video ever since he sat on Lord Adorables lap.
My idea is that since the kid puked on the floor last time, Adorable felt sympathetic for him and wanted to make the kid less afraid of the custodians and the emperor.
If that is the case, Adorable would make a good father.
Seviari He was a pretty good dad back during the Great Crusade,but having an actual child rather then men calling themselves his sons seems to have changed “good dad” to “Super-dad”
Seviari remember how pissed off he got after this episode when one of the custodes yelled at boy?
“ *_STOP YELLING AT MY BOY!_* “
He _actually raised his voice_ beyond a monotone to defend him.
Of course he would be a good dad. Because he is *Adorable.*
A better father then, dare i say it....the Emperor?
Keenan Carlson The son often learns from the mistakes of the father.
I'm almost surprised Rogal didn't choose burritos over tacos, considering their structural superiority
I was going to argue with you (tacos can be firm, burritos are usually limp) but I can't really think of a tortilla based Tex-mex food that _isn't_ structurally weak.
Maybe nachos, once the cheese hardens they're kind of just edible concrete.
Sammie1053 but you fail to realise that if you turn a taco upside down it spills, but burrito will remain a burrito with full structural integrity
@@thetemplar6586 Perhaps Rogal likes folded flour shells?
Tbf the taco has a _shell._ And walls, even. Proven fortification technology.
@@Sammie1053 Do remember that flexibility is important in architecture to prevent structural damage, especially in areas with high seismic activity. Rigid structures, like the taco, break easily at the slightest stress.
As a Thousand Sons player, I am ashamed to say it took me 5 viewings to figure out the phrase “a Space Wolf on the scent of dust”
Oh hey, I get it now.
Who knew Karstodes could actually make an intelligent joke.
Oh god, I see it now.
Could you please explain it?
@@polkanietzsche5016 the thousand sons have been basicly turned into dust bound to their armors. And I believe the space wolves and the thousand sons are bitter rivals. Magnus and Leman fought at Prospero where Magnus destroyed one of the hearts of Leman while Leman broke Magnus Back. there is probably more but I don't know much more of the lore.
i got it the first time a long time ago and i dont touch tabletop lol, my brain is swollen with knowledge
The guy who played Uriah did an AMAZING job. One of the best voice actors you've had.
I wish I had more then one upvote to give.
Haha yeah Uriah is good
I love the voice actor, yet after the "debate" all I want to do is punch Uriah in his beautiful throat X3
Why do I get the feeling that his VA fields Chaos armies in the tabletop game?
Can't help it but Uriahs VA reminds me extremely of Cephalon Simaris from the game Warframe.
"Sanguinius literally has angel wings."
HAS
**hope intensifying**
His corpse probably still has wings attached.
Is it rotting?
Well his soul is still being diddled by chaos in the vengeful spirit so who knows
SOB
fulcrum 29 His body may rot, but his spirit lives on.
Best part is Uriah silently cackling while the Emperor melts down at the ork's letter
It was subtle but absolutely hilarious when you hear it.
That was probably the best part of the vox cast. 😂😂😂
I’m surprised Uriah didn’t bring up the 1000 psychers a day.
10000*
Probably one of those things the Imperium keeps on the down-low as much as they can.
I don't know if the lore was updated, but in Master of Mankind, the Sacrifice of the Psykers was done with much regret. It was done purely as an act of desperation, and many involved threw themselves into their duty because of the guilt they felt.
He probably wasn't aware that the emprah requires human sacrifices.
It would have been a great response to the accusation of pedophilia. "A being who quite literally lives off the suffering of children accuses me of being a pederast?"
"Do you forgive Krieg?"
"Sure"
That has to be the best thing I've ever heard.
Imperial guard effectiveness drops by 99% because the Death Korps stop trying so hard
@@paulenan9636 they were told to keep fighting in his name, so I'm betting they'll only fight smarter & harder now
@@Xel963 well, that is one possibility. But i kinda doubt that the magical power of being mad sorry can be replaced by being reliefed
@@paulenan9636 for a time they's probably be even happier
@@marley7868 mate, this is 40K. If it is not unnecessary grimdark to the point of being easily mistaken for satire, it is not going to work. So I doubt happiness is going to work here
Rogal Dorn and Boy...the original “BOY and Kratos”
BOY
BOI?
Hmm
And the voice is pretty similar to Kratos too lol.
But you're forgetting the real question at hand.
Can Kratos smash fortifications faster than Rogal Dorn can build them?
@@Biotear I am fortifying this position.
I love that Uriah's faith clear coincides with the chaos fours best domains- Tenacious as Nurgle, Honourable as Khorne, Sophisticated as Tzeentch and Beautiful as Slaanesh.
**choas**
4 times the heretic. Absolutely heretical!
Perhaps the best way to heal the Warp is to act out the positive aspects of the Choas gods. Find chivalry in Khorne, resolve in Nurgle, hope in Tzeentch, and love in Slaanesh. Or perhaps it is best to abandon them entirely. Who knows?
@@jagnestormskull3178 There will always be the bad with the good, so the best way is to embrace the living metal of the necrons.
@@cheekibreeki9818 C'Tan spy.
To this day, I still read Dorns voice as this voice actor. It's so good. It's stoic, monochromatic, and just downright perfect
Trying to read A Thousand Sons or The Crimson King after watching TTS sure makes reading any scene where Magnus speaks...weird.
Man, jumping into a fire really taught Uriah how to dish out some burns.
Hey-oooooooh!
Someone get this guy into an ERB!
Eric Emigh he wanted to save his church whom the thunderwarriors burned.
he's only missing some bandages and a .45 caliber auto-pistol
Oh the irony
It’s kind of scary how powerfully Uriah word shivs the Emperor.
If he wasn’t a bloodletter apologist I’d say he was the most rational and human character in the series
Well I mean nobody really brought up the fact that the warp in its current form as well as the chaos gods as they are were born and sustained out of constant devastating war and horrible atrocities...
Winters well to be fair it’s not like anyone would have ever mentioned it. Uriah is a biased choas worshipper and the emperor is too fractured to even make a decent argument besides, I’m right
Rustymcnut rational? Yes, most human? Vulkan might disagree.
Uriah is certainly more human than the emperor ever was.
What I like about this is that in the next podcast where the guest is a black templar the emperor finally realises how flawed his philosophy is
He was the last priest of Christianity to die by the Emperor's hand in canon.
Magnus is the most rational character in the series IMO, at least on the issue of the Warp. He views the Chaos Gods as they are, manifestations of all emotions, the good, the bad, and the ugly, but that the gods seem to forget the first part (well, maybe except Slaanesh). "Oh I won't disagree with you there, [Tzeentch and Nurgle] both are [being assholes]."
And btw, hating the flooging Furries is rational, change my mind. Especially since they burnt his planet, committing millions of war crimes in the span of like, a week. Maybe hating them to the point of breaking loose into his true form at the very mention of them isn't rational, but wanting to take vengeance on them certainly is.
"Rubbing things in is not my job. You have your Custodians for that."
Lord Adorable does hide some great humor under that fortified armor lmao
I really wanted the starchild/fyodor to somehow appear and talk to uriah and maybe apologise, what with him being all the emotions that the emperor threw away.
It's Ironic that the same man that wants humanity to throw their emotions away, became a laughable husk without his emotions.
@@ArchivedFoxThe Emperor never wanted to rip the emotions from humanity, he was fine with it. It's religious faith he wanted to excorcise like we did during the Golden Age
@@ironduke5058 The problem with your argument is that it's widely believed that chaos gods are thriving with emotions, hence the chaos gods and the actions that feeds for their existences are essentially require collective emotions on the extreme, the Golden Age doesn't even necessarily mean that there's no religion during the age of Technology, they simply worship the Technology which can undercuts Chaos as the growing tumour of influences in The Warp
More needs to know that chaos =/= warp, the fact that The Warp was free of chaos gods after War in Heaven which happens in even way larger scale than 40th Millennium timeline (or by some argue during Medieval ages although they have to climb for influences like Drach'nyen until Slaanesh's birth empowers the other 3 chaos gods through excess), simply means that chaos was a much later byproduct and The Warp consists of different sections of warp gods of their own, just like Primarch souls being hinted to be of independent lesser yet still powerful warp gods or the Eternity Well which even Tzeentch afraid of, or Gork and Mork which any chaos god doesn't dare to disturb or even Tyrannids' Hivemind which is being existential threat to all chaos gods and the entire Chaos Undivided powers
Both Emperor of Mankind and Uriah are wrong, The Warp/Immaterium is supposed to be a vast and diverse mirror of Materium hence its malleable of any strong psychic influences, or even anti-Warp technologies akin Necron techs can stunted to starve out (if not downright erases) the influences of Chaos and The Warp as a whole
Tl;dr they can do so much more than focusing The Warp relationship with material universe beyond both Chaos and Imperial Cult by placing more nuances of competing factions that can destabilises The Warp at any point into something completely different, yet they're not dare to do it, since it could significantly alter their Tabletop game models' general designs, even Chinese gacha games have better development of universal (or even multiversal) worldbuilding compared to how currently Games Workshop have to stuck with Warhammer 40K and AoS/OW, at least they try to bring Primarchs and hints Vashtorr trying to become a new chaos god but I doubt it will launch the settings to it's ACTUAL END TIMES either
“He fixes your walls.”
I believe in the Adorbidor.
Whenever you awake, and you find that your home has been fortified without your knowledge, know that the Adorbador has graced your humble fortress.
All hail the adorbidor
I am doing home rennovations, what is Rogal's preferred method of prayer? I even have a spare hammer if he goes the sacrifice route....
Lord Adornable does not need sacrifice or prayer. He just lets you know he is proud of you by a quick ruffle of your hair. If you wish to invoke His favour to assist with your home improvements, just measure twice, cut once, and He will be pleased.
This is Nice.
i thought id never see the day where this show is actually fleshing out the silly side-characters, but here we are, i feel blessed.
I love the idea of the chaos gods manifesting to their followers according to the moral integrity of said person. To a being like Uriah, they reciprocate his kindness, hope, compassion, and desire for faith, whereas for others they would appear more hellish, like a true mirror to humanity and progress would happen from within chaos according to Uriah’s belief. Awesome deepening of lore.
Eh shit, I ruined the 69 likes
That’s dope concept but having Slaanesh ask for consent isn’t grimdark and doesn’t sell space marine minis. So GW is unlikely to do anything that narratively complex on such a large scale.
The problem is for that to work you would need to get rid of every sentient race in the galaxy, especially Commorragh.
That's how Chaos Gods deceive people.
@@ianharrison5758 Now Im imagining that for Uriah Slaanesh goes to AA meetings and Nurgle is on Dialysis.
Uriah’s talk about how the imperium looks and how big a hypocrite the emperor is just reminded of what Magnus was talking about when he described the Chaos gods. Even though Uriah worships Chaos, I’ll have to agree.
*Picks glass out of his robes*
I may, or may not be back?
Oh please do so. We happen to greatly enjoy your questions. *Finishes sweeping up the glass with my broom.*
40K Theories Cyberdong the tech priest
HELLO
40K Theories What is knowledge really?
40K Theories What is being back tho?
I never realised that high pitch shriek when Uriah reveals himself was friggin' Rogal's.
I'm done.
No it's the boy, sitting in his lap. The vox decide it is rogal's voice. Still cute
I prefer to think its rogal because I now wanna imagine grandpa dorn with a stone cold face one sec, screaming scared face the next, and back to stone cold. If it is boy though, I'd like to say his reaction was calmer then expected
It was the boy.
It was the boy, in the next podcast the boy makes the same sound when the saurian tech techpriest appears from the floor during the questions near the end
Oh god you're right
1:06:15 "Some hollow futile endeavor that will not go anywhere like ... reinventing the Squats."
*WEEEEEEEEEELL, EMPS, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT NOW?*
I'M FEELN PRETTY EXSISTENT HERE IN YER ORBIT!! LET'S SEE HOW YER GROUND TREATS US!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Bet he's REEEEAAALLLLLLYY regretting picking Mars over the Votann.
@@watchm4kerindeed
@@watchm4kereeeeeh, I'm waiting for the revelation that Vottann are feeding themselves with the kin's psyche and souls or whatever to work, and that their "AI" is technically nothing more than a jumbled mess of their once great leaders uploading their brains into the mainframe.
Basically, imagine if every Vottann was essentially Big E in his current state
ROCK AND STONE@@watchm4ker
If Chaos Uriah existed in the official canon, then there'd be a genuine argument that the force of Chaos are the actual good guys in all that insanity that is the Warhammer 40K universe.
Not really. His points in this videos can easily be back peddled to malicious intent.
@@MrWiggles00706 I don't really see how. I know 99.999999999% of Chaos worshipers are true monsters, but Chaos Uriah seemed genuine in what he was saying. He was the one being antagonized by Big E throughout most of that and got cut off a lot before he could explain his points of view properly.
@@ShineDark part of it is humor and also probably having to explain it numerous of times.
But Uriah is right about chaos being a reflection of human emotions, but he also left out it is such a extreme version of that emotion that the warp itself mends and corrupts the ideal principle of that emotion. The warp as a general definition is a sea of souls, and a bloated sea of souls from the war in heaven. Hence why you see more negative emotions being so powerful rather than good. Honor in battle can easily be portray as slaughter. Resilience can lead to stagnation and disease.
He is right that you'll never squander it completely as it makes us human, but that doesn't mean that you can't nullify the corruption it causes in the warp. His logic is to turn a blind eye away and the evil that it inherently portrays, but to look at the human side or result of human emotions. Sure you can say that what big E has been doing, but his original intent is to safeguard humanity from ruin and the inconsistencies of the warp.
@@MrWiggles00706 That's fair. But I think Uriah has a point about the Emperor actually just hating Humanity.
I think the best way to deal with the corrupting powers of The Warp is to make the galaxy at large a better place. Obviously, that's not exactly easy to do in the current reality of the Warhammer 40K, but the Imperium's way of doing things is only making their situation worse. Even before the Emperor was seated on the golden throne.
@@ShineDark to some degree of irony, the emperor is actually a bit more capable of dealing with chaos. For one his physke is much more powerful and able to manifest itself due to faith of the emperor. Example being the golden girl that saved Gulliman from Mortarion after the death guard invaded ultramarine system. He's no long human, and serves as a tool against Chaos, ironically going against his own beliefs unwillingly. The stagnation and arrogance of the imperium is damming it, but also there is a breath of surgence and resilience with new technology and innovation when Gulliman was brought back from death's door. Its a hard road ahead for sure, but right now it's a lot of slow changes due to how fracture the imperium is. It's changing, but at a reasonable slow steady pace.
Please bring Uriah back for the future voxcasts.
Please let him and Magnus talk.
You hear the men......SEND THE ULTRAMARINES!!!!!!....yes you to kato sicarious
They won't get along well tbh. While both of them worship chaos reverently their perception of it is completely different. If magnus dislikes lorgar then he sure as well would like uriah just as much.
Their discussions would be interesting
@Devon Crusader Uriah had the unfair advantage of the emperor having his psyche scattered into millions of pieces into the warp. Not to mention big e is suffering in perpetual pain. That kind of situation can mess anyone's thinking.
@Devon Crusader I support the emperor because despite his ramblings he is correct. Uriah is just another brainwashed pawn of chaos who just so happens to possess charisma and some insignificant "facts" to defend his so called faith. Remember, things that are factually correct can still be incredibly idiotic.
Fun fact; everybody expected the Spanish Inquisition, they were legally obliged to give thirty days notice
So they're better than Telltale Games?
But back then people couldn't count 30 days.
@@darrianweathington1923 There used to be dozens upon dozens of religious and cultural holidays and celebrations as well as a near obsessive counting and measuring of the seasons and weather in order to prepare/plant/ and harvest so the village/town/city could survive the next year. If anything people these days are LESS mindful of the passage of weeks and months.
@@darrianweathington1923 It should have been EXTERMINATUS a looooong time ago.
That *IS* a fun fact!
This is my favourite podcast episode. Aside from Uriah stealing the show, I love all the different roles the Pillarstodes have. Especially how Karstodes is full-on pro-Emperor but that little moment where he argues against him and regrets it, to the chagrin of Uriah, was a perfect moment. "What do you mean you're conflicted? You had good points!" I'm sure people often feel like this in real life but have a hard time observing their conflicting feelings on a certain subject.
The dialogue of this show is so good, I cannot praise it enough.
Imagine the emperor suddenly returns, but he’s just absolutely sauced and says he has finally awakened the warp entity of alcoholic spirits
Tzeentch did lose in a children's card game.
By a golden banana cat
I could seriously listen to Uriah and the Emperor argue for hours, I want Magnus in here too and maybe Fyodperor, Chaos vs the Imperium in a verbal joust.
I would love to see them argue for hours, the both have good points too
Man-clesiarch Decius vs. Uriah. _That_ would be a theological debate worth getting thrown out the window for.
I feel that magnus and Uriah would start to argue with one another eventually
Yes, for some reason having these fictional characters debate a fictional theology and philosophy is far more interesting then it might first appear.
Uriah: you're cringe innit
The emps and fyidperor: N O
Magnus arriving: *unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way*
42:55
The sound of Karstodes’ lubed up footsteps accompanied by him essentially saying “BEGONE THOT” is highly amusing.
CaptainDemo779 that was funny!!
The speed of those footsteps and considering that’s all it took for Karstodes to cross the distance between himself and the nearest window in the imperium’s throne room is cool to think about.
The Custodes are OP, even in tts.
Plus, the THOTS of the warp are actually THOUGHTS of elders and humans and nuerodivergent Tau.
Along with everything else I love about these podcasts, the writing is absolutely phenomenal in the wrinkles and details they put in ever so intentionally.
In this episode, one of my favorite is 46:52 where Uriah says that the gods found his faith "tenacious, honourable, sophisticated and beautiful." You can instantly tell which God said what, with Nurgle to Tenacity, Khorne to Honour, Tzeentch to Sophistication, and Slaanesh to Beauty. Absolutely fantastic.
The writing of the podcast and series is so full of detail it cannot be perceived with a single watch!
I'd like your comment but it's at the perfect number
"Oh no, he has actual arguments RUN FOR COVER"
wouldn't "pride, hope, relish, bravery" from 56:22 be the same? Pride for Tzeentch, hope for Nurgle, relish for Slaanesh and bravery for Khorne? Maybe the pride one does not fit too well.
@@jeanvonestling7408 I'm familiar with Slaanesh being associated with pride, especially through Lucius the Eternal. (I'm pretty certain if anyone kills him and feels any kind of pride for the killing, than they become him?)
That demonic "because I know *I* am right" gets me every time. Such a perfect capstone for that rant. Gives me shivers.
I always love a power finish. Usually, people rely on a soft music background that stops at the closure, so you don't notice it until the silence hits you. This one increased the bass. I have seen someone's video where he can flat out close his argument with a power finish without any of that. (I even had to recheck to make sure that wasnt some trick to it)
1:01:54
Damn if that isn't a surprise, because it has the same effect on me as well, I think its the delivery, where the VA perfectly represents the character for but a moment, and in that moment we can intrinsically detect as social organisms his intentions and beliefs, be it from his tone or other, and by proxy, just how deep rooted they have become as of this video, and as of his 11,000 years of exposure to the unfettered instability of the warp, and so became even more resolute than he ever could have been as just a man, like when he performed his martyrdom in the burning, crumbling ruins of his church.
I really want Uriah to be a regular thing
like, he's such a great foil to emps, they make an awesome pair.
Yeah
I SHIP IT!
@@meganobgutzkraka2398 SHIPPING TIME!
It's nice to have a chaos worshipper who isn't a cackling madman. I've always wanted to do an army on the tabletop like that.
I will say this I do not like evil for the sake of evil I prefer to have a voice of reason to think about ones actions and since the explanation of magnus on the nature of the warp if I were a worshiper of chaos I would follow slaneesh as he represents joy and happiness call me heretic if you may but as uriah said to be rid of chaos is to be rid of out thoughts that make us human
"wuts a squat?" "Do not worry about it, Boy. No need to depress you with such information..." "o-okay lord adorable, sir..."
...Well, after listening to the 3rd (4h?) cast about the guy longing for genestealer ass, guess we know why he didn't want to depress Boy more than he was already.
So many corpses...
...and here I munch.
and basically because in same boat with Malal
And though they may have been winning their fight that is but sugar on the porridge of death
NOT ANYMORE
Boy and Dorn are honest to God the most wholesome thing to ever come from a grimdark setting.
Massive kudos to Uriah's VA, half the reason he sounds so likable is thanks to his great voice acting!
That monologue at 51:57 sends chills down my spine. Great writing and splendid delivery.
I hope Uriah becomes more common in the series, I want to see Magnus and Uriah getting into a scholarly debate. can be about anything.
I cannot see how Magnus and Uriah could possibly talk with one another without agreeing with one another. I mean, the points Uriah made to the Emperor about Cha... Choas, are literally those Magnus made previously to his father.
(Except for the obedience to Choas's gods thing, of course, there I think we could have an interesting debate)
Uriah's VA sounds like Sean Pertwee. He has an awesome voice.
Blood Raven
Nice to see a battle-brother with an opinion I share.
May I just point out that the inclusion of Boy adds an genius human touch to the conversation, and Nostalgia's performance is absolutely flawless.
Also, Uriah's raging monologue starting at 51:57 is insanely cathartic .
Also, Dorn encouraging Boy and being kind to him -warms- fortifies my heart.
Charles Urban "forifies"? May the Adorbidor blees... i mean reinforce you.
But he does have a point
@@CharlesUrban Dorn's fondness for boy is ironic since his own sons treat normal humans like they don't exist.
Boy is best Boi
Uriah then returned home to a hero's welcome from his congregation. The news of his debate with the Corpse Emperor had reached the ears of the Primordial Truthers, with some declaring that the Powers had chosen Uriah to strike a blow against the wretched Imperium. There are even calls within the Primordial Truth communities to award him the highest honour a civilian of the Primordial Truth can achieve.
The Chaos Gods watching this: *Jeez, Uriah, calm down he's already dead!*
Meanwhile, Tzeentch replaces Uriah's church with one made of dead babies and laughs at his expense as Uriah is none the wiser.
@@dragonstormx Nah, a church of dead babies is, unironically, more an Imperium thing.
46:52
"Tenacious, honorable, sophisticated and beautiful."
Nurgle, Khorne, Tzeentch, and Slaanesh.
Deftly done, Alfa and Co.
I can't be the only one who wants a t-shirt with the pre heresy Emperor giving a really smug grin captioned, "Because I know I'm right."
link670 I'd buy that
Or Magnus Did Nothing Wrong
I would like one with Chaos Uriah.
"Damaged urethras must have been common back in the day"
"Yes"
My new favorite quote.
Cock: Injured
46:47
"They saw my faith not as tragic and fruitless, but as tenacious (Nurgle), honorable (Khorne), sophisticated (Tzeentch), and beautiful (Slaanesh)."
Nice attention to detail.
Man Emperor of mankind: I’m going to summon Uriah
Man emperor of mankind: Why do I hear boss music?
The beating the emperor suffered from Horus was a simple pillow fight from the sheer verbal beat down Uriah delivered
Agreed
He summoned a man who could match wits with as a humble priest. Except now he had 10,000 years to actually articulate the full realities of what he was trying to say then.
you know all he had to do was point out that Slaanesh is barely o ver 10000 years old and Vect is older than... them? And Uriah's arguement of them existing since the dawn of time and humanity needing them would have wen't up in smoke.
@@bornfromfire9379 This is untrue, time does not flow linearly in the warp. Slaanesh has always existed as much as it came into being when the elves murderfucked it into coalescing.
Also even if time did flow linearly the core essence of what makes the powers has existed since as stated the first vestige of a thought, the first bit of slaneesh to ever exist is the first time something felt extreme pleasure. The bit of tzeentch is the first bit of hope. Because those emotions are interchangeable with the gods. Which is the point.
@@woomod2445 this is as much stupid conjecture and delusion as uriahs bullshit
Image of the Boy sitting in Dorn's lap is burned into my cranium. Dorn is perhaps the grandpa you always wanted.
Grandpa Lord Adorable
TheCyberSoviet Lord _Adornable._
MrWG333 "grandpa"
Your comment got mentioned on TvTropes.
I don't see it mentioned? Although if it is on there, then goddamn are the tropers fast.
Lord Adorable is a great storyteller.
LORD ADORABLE IS A HERETIC WHO EATS TACOS ON TUESDAY!
Taco Tuesday is the True Day!
This is false, everyone knows the true day of tacos is Friday.
*whispers* tacos any day you want...
*BLAM!* HERESY!
1:22:57 The Ork’s question towards the end of the podcast, and Uriah and the Emperor’s reactions to it had me laughing so much my throat was hurting! XD
It's even funnier after watching the Last Church movie
I recently watched it myself and I realized that they basically just repeated their entire conversation
@@St33lStrife Except better.
"Franc was a country in Europa primarily knowned for the production of strip shirts, the Napoleon complex, and the best Fist of the North Star dub"
As a french guy, I'm really surprised and amazed that you know about our hilarious and legendary dub of Fist of the North Star! :D
Failsnake and Eliphas made sure we knew of its glory.
Same, I was also Impressed white flagging didn't came into play.
I guess that's the difference between Alfa (being European) and the usual Americans I talk to on internet x)
@@BigBossGorgutz «I was also Impressed white flagging»
I too, but in a relieved manner.
I came here for memes, not a fuckload of theologically ethical pondering and debate, and what is this? I was actually engaged for am hour and a half of it, dammit Alfabusa, you have outdone yourself again in you fantastical fanfluff, good job
"If the Emperor had a fedora"
Basically Emperor of Mankind being typical Redditor, no wonder that even this rendition of Uriah severely wound his intellect and downright his psyche, if he's not being such a shitty father and proceed to have better solutions to filter The Warp from Chaos aside like not having to eradicating Religion, his Great Crusade might've been succeeding in more ways than one
It also kinda smells extra reddit cause you would think the emperor would have tried to stop religion as it was being formed or he would know what always happens when you strip people of religion and you don't replace it with any ideology of substance because either you get a worse religion or you get moral relativism which is objectively worse than even the worst theocracy it just hasn't done as much damage...yet.
I know i'm a couple years late but god DAMN this has to be one of my favorite segments on TTS. It's oddly satisfying to see the emperor stay quiet as uriah just fucking tears into him. You can just feel big E chew on almost every single word that comes out of him, Rogal becoming tense and trying to defend his father the best he can while he himself is unsure. The silence of the custodians while they themselves barely breath a word because they're scared of angering big E. That and just how Uriah treats the rest of the cast. He doesn't hate the people who serve the emperor, hell he helped the custodians with some of the arguments and gave credit were it was due. The only person he has a grip with was big E and it's because of his hypocrisy and ignorance.
It would less the Grimdarkness of the 41st millennium if there were benign mamifestations of the Chaos Gods.
I also love how this podcast helped flesh out each individual Custodes. The red one shows to have more individual thought and a different view than the other two custodes, especially the tattooed one who blindly follows the emperor. I have to say to call the emperor an asshole and even to his face when he really needs to know, makes me respect the red custodes more for his individual thought
F
darykeng he was asking for it
@@darykeng lol watch the DnD episode.
The Pillar Custodes, they are. Their JoJo originals, respectively are: Asidisi (Red Ring), Kars (White Ring) and Whamuu (Purple Ring)
I really like it in the black Templar episode when they actually have an argument. Then he goes to the emperor and apologizes and the emperor is understanding. It honestly reminds me of me and my dad
To correct Uriah, there is a location called Mount Ararat. It is an inactive volcano that lies within what was formerly the nation of Turkey.
Dominik Frey It's also said to be where Noah's Ark landed; yet another religion reference.
the Emperor was born in what would become Turkey, no?
*ahem* I do believe that's his point. Someone like Uriah would know that.
@@imperator5228 I thought it sounded familiar...
LyricalDJ not necessarily, especially after tens of thousands of years of linguistic and religious drifting.
The emperor seeks to separate himself from his humanity... whilst the priest embraces humanity. Both are valid.
The emperor fears the emotions and negative aspects that hinder humanity but it also removes the individuality that we like...
Its a interesting argument
Individuality is not dependant on emotions and “the negative aspects of humanity” (to be further defined), since you are also able of, and have a certain level of proficiency at, reasoning or understanding things, neither of which are emotional or “bad”, and which you can sometimes fail at, out of which you can get some kind of individualisation & identity
And actually, I think the Emperor just wants, in this anti-theistic/pro-theistic debate, *to end all forms of worship* , as in including the worship of the emotions that we inadvertently, sub-/un-consciously create without us being able to control them (e.g. “I believe in the power of loving others to save mankind.”), and so we could still be happy, but not.... actively seeking it ? Or just not praising it’s virtues out of a personal feeling that it is so good, by a certain definition of what “good” is, like what religion is. (At this point, it might be important to point out that religion is defined here as faith based, and so people might confuse their *religious* belief that their God has a reason to belief in its existence for a *rational* belief)
Oh, but also, since *the act of feeling happiness* itself could directly cause a *Choas* (; p) God to emerge in the Warp, I’m pretty sure that the Emperor wants to also do smth as seemingly ludicrous as ending happiness too, thus “ending humanity” (except that I actually understand how he would do that scientifically, as opposed to poetic lot and drama queens, since he’d have to remove our dopamine and serotonin receptors/systems in our brains and such, making a completely different species), and therefore beating the purpose of his worried countermeasures in the 1st place.
Again, I don’t necessarily, and I *actually DON’T* , approve of the Emperor’s practical realization of this philosophy, in the way that you put it in your comment.
If I were him, I’d just work to :
1) Completely eradicate, except without the threat of violence, nor with any religious iconography, and presumably with a lot of patience and/or propaganda (& astroturfing, my personal favourite populist-ish rhetorical strategy ; p), all the faith in even the simplest and smallest of feelings or emotions that we might have;
2) Reduce our emotionality & sensitivity down to a minimum, and in such a way that we won’t feel miserable about it (which would technically be paradoxical, but you get it : it’s *actually* be brought “down to a minimum”).
I’m saying this because that’s how *the Emperium* will ensure the best possible life environment for its citizens in this ideal world, where there’d be no more enemies (inside the Milky Way and its neighbouring dwarf galaxies, at least) other than Chaos : who’d then be weakened as much as possible, with an obviously different pantheon/roster of gods; thus more manageable than ever before; and, finally, since that’s also, retroactively, enhance the happiness, peace & enjoyability of those citizens.
The real-world Earth doesn’t work, and its possibilities could ideally be much wide than the Emperium’s. Also, I understand it could be good or even important to have a lot of diversity in things that don’t affect Chaos in any way, like a diversity in the places humans can live in, between fields and buildings & caverns.
(The debate about whether constant “happiness” is ideal or not is a different matter altogether that I'll sidetrack, and which I’ll allow the ability to reword that last part accordingly; for example, there could be “bad” actions and feelings that could be permitted in order for happiness to be more present without putting the Emperium at a dangerous risk of falling to Chaos)
And if they decide not to kill the Eldar, then, again ideally, these aliens would need to have such a restrictive culture
(The T’au might as well still remain and be super miserable, because I think that it’s said that they don’t affect the Warp ? If they do, and they’re just not psychically attuned - maybe not _yet_ -, then they’ll have to ideally follow the example of mankind and the Eldar)
@@nicholasleclerc1583 Your arguments about Emperor wanting to "abolishing all forms of worship" is instantaneously broken down by the fact that Immaterium in Warhammer 40K is as sensitive as the thoughts can enact Mythopoeia (make-belief things into physical or psychological realities in tangible three-dimensional senses of our human nature) in one's sober or one's unconscious (from day-dreaming to sleep)
Not to mention that 30K era Great Crusade's Secular Imperium is still following religion, not as in TTS Magnus' argument of "chaos god of unbelief", but as a form of Civil Religion and State Worship with it's Emperor and his Primarchs and their Space Marines as cults of personalities, similar to how USSR' Stalinism, Maoism, Titoism and many Eastern Bloc Statist leaders' personalities works even in OUR RECENT HISTORY
Go check "Religion for Breakfast" youtube channel for his in depth look of "Americanism" as cult of it's own, which later right wing and left wing secular ideologies of both wings ended up having cults of personalities, reverences of national tenets and institutions as subjects and objects of worships to fill their void after secularisation
Also try to note of how long lasting these self-proclaimed post-Industrial Revolution eras' secular ideologies goes before it fall apart through either Ideological revisionism (Maoism and Stalinism being not adhering to full secularism of "marxist orthodoxy (lol) then Stalin even ended up relaxing and reopening Churches and other Religious institutions after events akin to Siege of Stalingrad happens), emergence of Religiously motivated parties (post-Yugoslavia Balkan Nationalism and Russian Nationalism) or by post-Famine/Massacre/Genocide reforms by their succeeding Religious parties of today's nationalism or even globalism counterparts (post WW2 countries in '3rd world')
TL;DR: Warhammer 40K is pretty much shitty at projecting serious topics as IRL religion, spirituality, traditions, beliefs and even humanism roots in existing Faiths, at least Last Church tries it hardest to have semblance of nuances in their typical 40K unsubtlety
"priest embraces humanity. " No not humanity, he equates * insert deity here* to "the foundation of being human". That's exactly what emps called being used like a pyramid scheme and I agree with emps on that one. If you equate someone else to the foundation of every thing you are being taken advantage of. Emp fears superstition not "humanity".
"the thunder warriors were taken out back and killed - in glorious combat in the final battle of the unification wars:"
This is why I love your shit, Alfa!
For once all his Custodes are willing to go with the bullshit. ^_^
Low-key Uriah's arguments made me realize why people fall to Chaos in the first place.
Chandler Hull call it fall but others call it the first taste of freedom
He tells a truth, but not THE truth. The Chaos Gods are malignant tumors.
If you wish to know the truth, Chaos is but all of life's shadow parts. They are literally the collective souls parts being self-rejected.
By being unauthentic to the true self, you create this internal conflict in the realm of souls.
It would be freedom . . . If it weren't for all the grimdark edgelordness the Chaos Gods try to do in fluff. They are just ridiculously and cartoonishly bad. I wish there was more nuance, but it's 40k . . . What can one expect from most of the fluff?
Be careful you’re on a slippery slope to heresy there!
I pray to see Uriahs return, LOVED The Last Church, and love how he is depicted here. Him and The Emperor verbally dueling will never get old to me.
Because sides have legitimate arguments here, though Emperor is slightly more right here.
@@TheGoodLuc ...Failing to see how he's more right when the most concise point he had to make was "I want to sustain humanity, the Powers just want to sustain themselves" got shut down utterly with the talk on the point of existence. Fuck, when Emp talked about the Powers needing people like parasites, I was waiting for Uriah to shout back "YOU NEED A THOUSAND DAMNED PSYKER SOULS EVERY DAY OF YOUR MISERABLE UN-LIFE!" This was... utterly one-sided.
@@JacksonJinn Yep, The emperor's entire argument was obliterated. In fact, the Emperor had no damn argument at all. It was literally: "I'm perfect."
Ilya Rysenkov Except he’s completely wrong and organized religion does hurt the chaos guards because it funnels it to a different power.
Jacob Wingard So his entire argument was basically they won’t need a God because they have me
Anyone else getting a real 'arguing with a dude on the internet' vibe from the Emp's side?
I think that is the point? Like, the Emprah in TTS is portrayed as an incredibly flawed person. Like, that for all of his powers, intelligence, plans, and dominion, that he is a being that lacks VAST amounts of self-understanding to know he is fucking up over, and over.
He has SO many difficulties coming to terms with his own mistakes, that in the Stellaris episode, he ends up repeating the same mistakes that caused the Horus Heresy to a T.
I think TTS is not just about the Emprah fixing the Imperium. It's about the Emprah fixing himself as a person, as well.
@@IAsimov I mean that is more or less what the actual Emperor and Imperium failed to realize
"It's ya boi."
_~ The Manperor of Mankind. M42._
Raid: Shadow Legends.
"My church is not made out of dead babies!" Well there's a sentence I never thought I would hear.
Is it due to _your_ church being made out of dead babies?
Certainly not! I'll have you know my church is made out of adult human beings!
But is he SURE it's not made out of dead babies? Was he involved in it's construction? Has he ever bothered to inspect the material of it's walls and/or frame?
I don't think a building made out of Dead Babies would have very good structural integrity. Not unless you compressed the bodies VERY tightly so as to form bricks of baby-meat and bones. And even then, it would probably still be rather easy to break. And very squishy.
Use stone. Way cheaper and you don't get that smell, or seepage, or the vermin, or the awkward questions. Yeah. Just use stone.
Graham McNeil actually talked to you for this? Alfabusa's moving up in the Warhammer Community!
Yeah! What an honor
VindicAlpha He is the God of the Warhammer 40k communities, he has become the embodiment of /tg/.... Soon, meta will happen, and the Ultramarines will reveal the most powerful forces OUTSIDE their universes, the GW, the authors, and of course, the Fans/fanficwriters/players, who somehow led to him getting a text to speech device. Would shock the SHIT out of the Emperor, but could be the only thing that could get Lorgar to join the Imperium again, since being of the race who created their universe, have begun to align with mankind. Would shock everyone.
I've seen him carrying conversations with Aaron Dembski-Bowden over Twitter.
A lot of the "big wig" writers for 40k are pretty active in the community.
Dan's been on podcasts (at least 40k radio and probably a few others), Graham consulted with alfabusa and has been on /tg/ and Aaron has an account on Bolter and chainsword and discusses fiction with the community there, not to mention writing stories on /tg/ like "Dude, where's my landspeeder" and "what it's like".
I love Rogal Dorn acting like a dad or Grandpa to Boy, so wholesome
Gotta love how suprised he was on how Magnus was kidnapped and the Emperor of Mankind just stabbed tzeentch in the face lol
Uriah should stick around he's a good counter balance to the Emperor
GLORIOUS
MY FORTRESS IN MEDRENGARD IS GLORIOUS,THIS IS HERESY FOR THE DARK GODS
You have no power here, this comment section is FORTIFIED BY THE SONS OF DORN.
Hail Imperator!!! (they're Roman and shit aren't they)
Hello friend-Brotha! It has been some time. Would you like a hug?
Oh damn not you.
Me when the priest started arguing: he making sense
Me when he said tacos arnt that good: IMA KRUMP DA ZOGGIN RED GIT
*Krump
@@cantharelluscibarius2244 you right
@@skitgrurdbattlestompah3598 just helping a bro out ;D
(For context it said crush instead of krump before he edited it)
No, he’s right about the tacos too. Absolute shit.
Depends on the place, franchise is usually much worse than roadside
44:08 - I know it's supposed to be Boy screaming, but the fact it was Dorn's audio graph that move tickles me.
You'll probably never see this, because I posted it so late, but here goes: I know on the last podcast I said something to the effect that I massively enjoyed it and that still rings true, I do. I also wanted to add to that: I love your videos and don't watch them to see flashy animations or visual effects, even though they are good (seriously, I'm not hating on it, I love the animated stuff, it's kind of like paper dolls and that's just too cool) I watch them for the characters, the way they interact, their personalities, and to learn about the lore of WH40K all of which these podcasts do VERY well. I hope you and your team keeps it up because this is awesome.
Five bucks says that we have discovered Cultust-chan's father...
Patrick Frost 40K Credits Says it’s her grandfather.
grandfather? no. ancient ancestor with some daemon nonsense thrown in? yes, put me down for 20 thrones
@@robertmercuri1160 met a nice nurgle lady in his church got married had a kid and sent her off with a love (don't bring up her malal phase he's still sore about it) I'll raise you 40 thrones and a soulstone
Extinct Terran wildlife does not make for an effective wager. Only those in possession of similarly ancient remains may raise that bet.
@@korstmahler get out of here dorn
I like to think, that after Roga- I mean Lord Adorable invited the vox boy onto his lap while explaining the age of strife, that he remained there for the rest of the vox cast. That makes me feel good inside for some reason.
The fact that the emperor tried to pay someone in exposure makes me want to join the Tau just on principle.
Balthazaar007, who played to part of Uriah, was absolutely fucking fabulous. That is both quality writing and quality voice-acting. Bravo.
He sounded like Liam O'Brien to me. Nevertheless, great voice acting
Well, Uriah is probably one of my favourite characters in this.
DemonClaw i like how none of them answered the Emperors question about joining choas, after hearing Uriahs arguments. Not even Dorn😂
I was *REALLY* liking him until he said Tacos aren’t even that good,
That is an unforgivable sin
Question for the future Q&A Sessions:
Oh grossly incandescent and glorious Emperor,
When you say you want Terra (effectively The globe-straddling temple that is Terra, which is currently dedicated to the worship of You) converted to the “Galactic establishment of the new Imperial Truth and worship of mankind as a whole?”
...What does that mean exactly?
Do you...just want a bunch of of statues of the human form and examples of science and reasoning?
How might you want these hive sized cathedrals put to better use?
I was hoping to visit Terra sometime in the next few centuries (if time and warp storms/ork waaghs/Tyranid swarms/work allows), and I’m really hoping they will be repurposed according to your will, but I’m not sure what that would even look like.
Note: I have a rather obsessive need for all things to be ordered as intended and prepared to specifications as planned. I want to make sure Terra and it’s temples are up to code when I visit. If you could provide some simple outline of this intended repurposing, it would ease my troubled mind of how Terra ‘should’ look if and when I arrive to inspect it.
Sincerely,
Quartermaster General Kevan Henderson O’Rouke. - New Antioch - Armory World
"What is a throw?"
(Sound of glass breaking)
Custodisi is quickly becoming my favorite of the Pillarstodies. At first he had no character, but he's quickly becoming the most reasonable and outspoken of the three. I like it!
AngelAngelis lol custuu custar and custodisi
AngelAngelis NORMIES REEEEE!!!
I never knew that they actually had brains in those helmets of theirs
M’yes
+AngelAngelis
well, given the fact that they're supposed to be insane group of loyal companions, i don't think the direction is good
being 'critical', and ovelry aggressive against the emperor (even unnecessary) breaks his character's impression
like, you have kitten who's the only one remaining his sanity, and even him given the position being a custodes, who's very loyal to the emperor, still reluctantly correct the emperor at times, not aggressively against the emperor he's supposed to be very loyal to
so to me custodisi is breaking his character, neither the sane kitten is that unnecessarily aggresive lol
Uriah seems to be a match to Malcador in properly criticizing the emperor
I mean.. Uriah can be really personal advisor of Big E if Big E didnt full "Banished all Religion"
Damn, I think I just got converted to chaos by a dead Christian priest
Not a Christian, the first Emperor-worshipper. If you actually read *The Last Church*, it says that God appeared to him on the battlefield, a giant of a man in golden armor, wielding a flaming sword, and healed him.
@@jagnestormskull3178wasn't the church of the lightning stone basically some weird denomination of christianity. He probably saw the emperor as some manifestation of yahweh or jesus that saved him.
@@stephenlee1664 Uriah himself was sort of vaguely implied to subscribe to a descendant of Christianity, but the church itself was likely non-denominational, if only because of the fact that the last church on Earth couldn't really be picky about who it let in. Uriah was certainly no theologian, and the title of priest was self-appointed IIRC.
Alternate title: Quadriplegic with dementia gets taken down by the ghost of an old man he killed back when he was in his prime.
Uriah needs to debate Magnus. I feel like the debate between a former deamon prince and a chaos priest would be absolutely legendary
It would have also been more nuanced, since neither one says stuff like, "Chaos Must be Destroyed." Alas.
I get the feeling they'd go from debating to taking turns dunking on Big-E.
It's been 40,000 years......
I see this comment on every bruva alfabusa vid
1:31:11 Yes, you MUST go over "Galaxy in Flames!" The glory of the last stand on Istvaan III must become known to all!
This is so much better than the original discussion in the book. Even though we know Big E would not change his mind, the way it was written did not truly feel like they a debate, like they did not construct Uriah's dialogue with equal care or had the characters point out flaws in their own arguments until it became so gray that Big E would leave out of sheer argument, leaving who was right as an ambiguous point. This was such a good reprise.
Damn... this must took 40.000 years to make.
(>^3^)>
I love how the Choas man is the one who is completely flummoxed at his current company.
Three nudists, a pre-pubescent cyborg, a giant man with a white moustache in lemon-colored power armor claiming to be adorable, and a giant talking skeleton.
I would be flummoxed too.
This was fascinating. I had a similar discussion with a friend, i which an Argument was that the Imperium would totally worship/honour a blood letter,if it was only golden and killed the people they didnt like
I want to see Uriah get summoned again by Magnus, like he did in the Genestealer podcast with one daemon and almost summoned Tzeench
"the adorbidor he comes to your hab-blocks when you sleep and fixes your walls". all hail lord adorable and his (possible) warp presence!
1:15:55
That would actually be really nice for the poor citizens stuck living on hive worlds. I approve of the Adorbidor!
PRAISE LORD ADORABLE AND ADORBIDOR!
Considering the way the Warp works, this voxcast May result in an Adordador forming in the Immaterium...
Good ol dorn, even his goost is supremely helpful in all matters construction.
Dragonlover553 I wonder what the adorbidor would look like? A standard imperial fists space marine, or would his armour be a mix of all of dorn’s chapters: red from the crimson fists, black from the templars, yellow from the modern imperial fists etc
I love how despite being creepy, Rogal Dorn's liking for the boy seems to be genuine and wholesome, and that totally creeps out the Custodes.
I also find Boy both endearing and relate-able. He really is the average child in the Imperium; probably born on Palace grounds, done the same job his entire life, and won't leave the outer walls before he dies. Sad really. He's brighter than all but Dorn give him credit for.
Rogal Dorn is like Santa Claus. Just larger, more monotone, and builds much larger things.
Think of all the toys made in Adorable's Workshop!
Apparently someone on the tv tropes page for this series wrote in the Fridge Brilliance section that Rogal Dorn's liking for the boy may be because he sees in him what the Imperial Fists value: "stoic resilience in the face of overwhelming danger, determination to do one's duty, and unshakeable loyalty to the Emperor". Also, his relationship with Boy seems to mirror the relationship he himself had with his adoptive grandfather.
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The irony here is that the Big Bang was first proposed by a Roman Catholic priest from Belgium.
Y'know.....after Magnus explanation of the nature of the Warp, combined with Uriah's arguments......you could truly argue why joining Chaos is good in the deep.
Edit: I literally dont get tired of Uruah and The Emperor having this argument
NOOOOO!
I can understand joining every other faction BUT chaos even on its worst day.
You want to join the imperium? Maybe you understand the mash of circumstances that lead to it becoming the mess that is today and hope you can somehow fix this hot mess. Or maybe you, as a human, understand or believe that such harsh actions had to be taken, and continue to have to be, to ensure humanity's existence.
You want to join the eldar? Maybe you feel bad for their ever degrading statevand being a foot inside death's door. Or think they're not nearly as bad as anyone else currently living in the galaxy, if a big smug
You want to join the necrons? Maybe you feel bad for their initial existence being actual pain and how they were screwed over by the old ones refusing to aid them, then by the c'tan eating their souls. Maybe you deserve they genuinely deserve to be the top dogs in the galaxy for all the sh*t they went through.
You want to join the orkz? They're the only faction in the galaxy legitimately having any kind of fun. They don't care for much else besides a good fight. No thoughts, head empty and maybe you vibe with that.
The dark eldar? Maaaaaaaybe you accept the fact that they have to be as depraved as they are, otherwise their souls are forfeit.
The tyranids? They are neither good nor evil. The tyranids are only hungry. Can't really have any thoughts or opinion (other than freakin scary) about a faction whose sole motivation for wanting to eat the galaxy is because they're hungry, be they good or bad.
Tau? The Tau on their worst day are nowhere evil as any of the other factions when on their best behaviour, so maybe you just really want to play the closest to actual good guys or least of evil as you can have in his forsaken galaxy.
Or maybe you care for none of that and just think they look cool.
But chaos? CHAOS? Chaos is the only faction that's actively evil and corrupting without any good, tragic or understandable reason or motivation. It's a by product of all the effed up sheit that's been happening in the entire galaxy. It's evil. Straight up evil. And it's not even aesthetically pleasing evil. There's absolutely no good reason to even want to join, or play, effing chaos. They're the furthest from good guys as you can get
Dear Emperor of the primitive Mon-keigh,
I am a Eldar Farseer from the craftworld Saim-Hann and I have listened to your vox-transmissions about the White Scar and the last church for entertainment. We have recently recovered one of your precious STC that contained various food recipes. While we did enjoy eating the magnificent taco on tuesdays and fridays, there is another Mon-Kiegh food that is just as popular. On behalf of my craftworld, I ask you this question:
What day is the mighty Pizza to be consumed?
We just wanted to know as we settled on eating the taco on Tuesdays and fridays until you Mon-Kiegh finish killing each other over the issue.Also I been asked by the Harlequins to tell your three stripers that Cegorach says "Bazinga!"
PS: I bribed your cult with pictures of naked female Eldar of the various craftworlds to turn a blind eye to my letter.
TheShadowwarrior80 Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Well if the imperium gets their heads out of their asses as well as the eldar, then we might discuss the old cultures.....
[BAZINGA]
Also, as an official representative of the Imperium, the Mighty Pizza, like the Holy Taco, may have its own day dedicated to, for and by your own choice (BUT still on ONE day only).
The most advised is usually either on Mondays - in an effort to help your mind relax at the painful thoughts of a harsh week beginning - or Fridays - as to make you have relief from what has come.
Pizza-fully yours
~Basically no one.
To the Adeptus Administratum,
This is a message from a representative of the Emperor's Holy Inquisition.
For reasons of security, may I inquire to...take a look at those naked female Eldar pictures that were provided to you by this Eldar Farseer?
This inquiry is for research and clarification of potential heresy, obviously.
The Emperor protects!
@@thegrayyernaut how many you want... I got the fer days
Can Uriah seriously become a reoccuring character if not a straight up standard part of the Emperor's Retinue.... cause he does such a damn good job of countering the Emp's BS that this NEEDS to be a thing , I can't wait for him to get word of the Emp's own words about the Chaos gods being both good and bad and the reason they all appear as such horrid nightmares is because humanity is being constantly dicked around and driven so hard towards dickishness that they themselves forget the noble side of themselves , and uses that to rail about how Preaching the noble intent of most religions rather than the Dogmatic practices could have been used to better the entirety of mankind as opposed to crushing them beneath the weight of the Imperium and it's own Dogmatic Beleifs
1Okoya1 Yes.
He sort of fulfills the role that Magnus would if he was in the room.
Given that he's using basically the exact same arguments that Magnus has used prior...
The problem with that is Humanities religions were weakened with the Golden age, the age of strife and were too easy to subvert into chaos gods cults.
@@nicholasrocha2414 weakened? Can you explain to me i am not that inforemd about warhammer 40k lore
The last character I expected to make me cringe was The Emporer Himself.
Jesus, my dude got logically obliterated.
Uriah metaphorically did to the Emperor what the Bloodletter literally does to Imperials.
The responses the Big E put out for some of those were just... Yikes. Annihilated.
@@Spore9996 No he wasn't. He pointed out that he was right. Just as he always was and is.
I find that out of character his arguments were terrible
i mean his arguments in this video were much better than his arguments in last church
I love the idea that Orks are spamming the shit out of the Emperor's inbox, it legit seems like something they'd do for the person they've heard to be the biggest and baddest of the humies.
Gotta get him to come out and krump somehow right?