$200 Budget IKEA Office Chairs Comparison - MARKUS, JÄRVFJÄLLET, HATTEFJÄLL
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- I've been testing some of newest ergonomic IKEA office chairs for about a year now. Here's a quick comparison between the Jarvfjallet, the Hattefjall and the ever popular IKEA Markus chair.
IKEA MARKUS Chair
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IKEA HATTEFJÄLL Chair
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IKEA JÄRVFJÄLLET Chair
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I... have... no... words... I have spent the last year with my jarvjallet complaining about the lack of recline, I didn't realise all you had to do was push in the lever. My entire life has been a lie, thank you david
bruh
Bruh how did you not just figure that out on your own...
It's at that moment you realised... you're an idiot.
@@-The-Golden-God- lol
HAHAHAHA XDD
David Zhang: "the foam is a little too hard"
Me: (stares at my 20 year old chair that's basically a wooden frame with fabric pulled over it)
Dude, you've never sat on a swivel chair that costs as much as the Markus and is completely made of hard foam... It will destroy your ass in less than 4 days.
@@gabem.5242 I work at Ikea and I've occasionally sat down on the Markus chair and it didn't actuslly feel uncomfortable. But I'd rather sit on my shitty wooden chair than shell out the money
@@ish_vids how's your back now?
@@acidset actually not bad at all, though my chair is still shitty and now torn to fuck by my kitten I've still yet to replace it. It's surprisingly okay, but I'm not gonna be spending a huge amount for the ikea chairs anytime soon
@innn finally replaced the cursed chair with one that's completely mesh, best decision ever
I absolutely love that everythingg is on youtube.
The internet is amazing, isn't it.
yeah I searched for this chair for soooo long and now I found this video, great.
thx for the thorough comparison. whenever i think about office chair, your channel pops in my mind. keep it up! 😊
Very thorough, thank you for the excellent comparison. My biggest gripe on my Markus is definitely the arm rests. I’d take them off for desk use but often use my chair exclusively from the desk while on my phone.
Thank you so much for this video! I was on a tight budget but I needed a decent chair and after watching your video comparison, I decided to buy the IKEA Markus chair. It is an amazing chair for the price and I'm loving it!
Factual and straight to the point, just like this video should be. Thanks for making this video, it helped me a lot in my purchase.
Yo bro, this is some next level chair review. Good job!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Really helpful. Much appreciated. Oh, your voice is super relaxing too.
Looked at this video for 1.48 min, went to the nearest IKEA and bought 2 JARVFJALLET's. Love em!
Im about to return mine and get a markus. My butt hurts when reclined for a long time because the seat does not recline along with the back
@@woutchauvaux6672 just bought it and had the same problem. Also i wish the lumbar can move up a bit, my lower back actually hurts.
@@KCCT9527 Im liking the markus so far, only the arm rests are a bit sharp when i sit cross legged but the reclining is way more comfortable
I had bought the Markus chair yesterday, because of your suggestions. I was having back isseus with previous chairs, and this one fits awesome, Its so comfy and ergonomic.Thanks David!
Do you recommend it after 3 years of using?
great review, appreciate this!
I have waited so long for a video from you David, I'm always enjoying watching them.
Thank you for teaching me how to use my chair! I just bought an AS IS Hattefjall in like new condition for $86.
Thorough and helpful comparison, thank you!
what a wonderful review...I'm on their website and just decided to search reviews. Thank you!!
The best way to determine which one you like best is to try them in store. For me, I found the hattefjall most comfortable and ended up buying it. The adjustable seat and the height adjustable back is what makes this perfect for me. The harder seat cushion feels like it provides me more support yet is not uncomfortable. The auto-adjustable design sets the right amount of resistance (for me). Also, it looks and feels the most well made.
I also thought the hattefjall was the most comfortable, the Markus was a close second though.
Same, but I wish the back could be locked into a position other than bolt upright. The auto feature doesn't provide anywhere near enough resistence for me.
After 2 years of owning it, the whole thing wobbles like crazy. Can't take it apart to replace the cylinder either. Shame :(
had this chair for 7 years now and i never knew what that knob under seat was for
so thaths why IKEA removed it! 😂
lol
Null 😂
@@DickHead69able Hilarious! :-)
Lol same.... got rid off mine about 6 months ago after i got 5 years out of it and upgraded to a secret lab titan... man there IS a difference
Thanks so much for this extensive review, you commented most of the main comfort points that I wanted to know about the new Jarvälfjeffjlkf... I'll be sticking with my trusty old Markus for now, until a really comfortable chair comes along. The maximum tilt angle looks the same on both, which is not enough for me; though maybe with the seat tilt on the new one it will have a better effect.
David Zhang and Ikea furniture reviews, name a more iconic duo.
Excellent video, everything very well explained, with important details that are very useful.
Congratulations on the channel!
I went trough plenty of videos and google search results, but it seems everyone trys to sell their 50 bucks chair for up to 300.. Im glad all that nonsens brought me here because this was the first video I found really honest and informational. Thanks tho :)
Thank you for sharing the video. I just learned my ALEFJÄLL also allows me to adjust pan depth lol
Your videos are a life-saver!
damn, I just learned something new about my chair I didn't even know (the locking of the recline). Thanks dude!
Many thanks for such detailed review.
I can attest that the IKEA warranty on these is top notch. After 5 solid years of use my Markus seat cushioning was getting a little bit too flat for my liking. IKEA just replaced the entire chair without questions and gave me another 10 year warranty on the new one!
Daaaamn
Wow, that's amazing to hear. I just bought the Markus yesterday. I haven't assembled it yet, still in box. But the warranty is good to know, especially hearing first hand experience from you.
@@TRD_Mike how's it for you? what's your height?
@@hailgod1 To be honest, right now I'm considering returning it. I'm 5'11 230lbs. The chair itself is really comfortable. I really like the high back so I can lean all the way back and the headrest is comfortable. The major deal breaker is the arm rests. The height is fine, but because their mounted so far up towards the front of the chair, they push into the side of my legs when sitting. It forces you to sit with your legs in a more closed position. Personally I like sitting more with my legs spread and feet wider apart. After about a half hour sitting in the chair my legs hurt from the armrests digging in, and then I have to consciously make sure I have to sit with my legs closed. Removing the arm rests might be an option for you, but personally I use them all the time and can't take them off. Will probably return the chair and buy a 2nd hand Steelcase Leap.
I'm 184cm, the pointy bit of my skull back is about 3-4cm under the top edge of the headrest, lumbar is perfect (I'd say)@@hailgod1
I just picked out a Markus completely at random, before seeing this video and after reviewing your other video about best posture while sitting. I guess I'm fortunate for being a bit of a tall person with longer arms and legs since that made it pretty much perfect for me. But yeah...I can see how it'd be an issue for smaller folks. And agreed on the foam - easily the best of any other and made me completely forget leather.
Same, Being tall can be a gift and a curse. But mainly a gift :D
Thank you! Very good reviews. Can't make up my mind between Markus and JÄRVFJÄLLET. Now I know what to choose between the 2.
Hello, can you share your experience on whatever chair you've chosen?
which one did you choose?
The Markus has been back in stock last Saturday and now out of stock again at my local Ikea store. When I loaded the package onto the cart, someone passing by yelled "Markus!". That tells you something.
shits been out of stock here in germany since december
you could order it online, but for 40 extra €uronens, no thanks
Stop lying who does that ?
@@ninaedwards345 people where I live I guess.
Maybe there was an actual Markus person in the store 😄
Thanks for this review!
The jarv-fillet had me weak
Thank you! You've saved many many people some respectable money! 🤜🤛
Great review
Thanks for sharing 👍❤
Great review 🍻
Nice review, thanks so much for your experience
I have that 3rd one for gaming and im very happy
Thank you! This helped a lot!
Thank you for the video. My Jarjavvet recline became locked and I was worried it broke. Turned out it was merely locked. While the padding is more firm, I’m 6’4” and built like the dad version of a body builder (38” waist but 280 lbs) and I’ve been very happy with it.
Hi, I’m 6,3.5 and was wondering on your opinions of this chair. Have you tested out the Markus and how does it match up?
I don’t even need a new chair but your vids are so well done so I decided to sub
I've been using the Markus for more than 10 year. Best ever! Never got a back pain
Do you recommend ?
Do you recommend it for sitting more than 8 hrs or so?
DO YOU RECOMMEND BUDDY? :D
The foam is thicker on the newer chairs because thinner foam will break down faster over time.
Thank you David!
Yay, thanks for making this!
Had my Markus for 5 years now (blue cloth version) I love it personally, i never use the reclining feature though as i use it primarily to sit at a computer.
is it good if ur sitting in it for longer periods of time? like does cushion fuck up?
Markus is nice, but Järvfjället is reeaally good and supports your back amazingly. And the spring is more effective.
Thanks for doing this
Oh hey its the
Austin Evans of chairs!
I've got the Järvfjället and ditched the "gaming" chair. Mine also came with adjustable armrests in package. Love the stiffer seating, the back support is excellent and overall quality is superb. I absolutely love it, my back has stopped hurting completely.
Did you get the leather or fabric version? Just purchased the glose black leather Jarvfjallet with armrests for $279 but I still have to assemble it.
@@terrasai2857 Locally I couldnt find any Järvfjället chairs at all for a long time. Eventually leather ones popped up for sale so I went with these. Leather is pretty nice but with my experience, leather in general is much more prone to wear compared to fabric. I'd have gone for fabric if I had the option to, but even if leather does wear out, IKEA seems to be very supportive with shipping replacements.
@@cert9111 Yeah the fabric Jarvfjallet’s are always out of stock where I’m from too. It’s been especially bad because COVID completely messed up IKEA’s logistics.
I’m crossing my fingers that the leather isn’t super cheap.
very useful, thanks!
Got Markus almost a year ago and I love it. I do wish the Markus got a bit closer to the ground, but it's still very comfortable.
Minimal height seems too high for me too
I'm a Marcus user for over a year now and since the beginning I thought the armrests were a dealbreaker. I removed those within 10 minutes of assembly because they prevented me from getting close enough to my desk without having to lower the chair which I didn't want to do to stay in ergonomic working position. Everything else about the chair is great for me. Depth is just right and so is the height of the headrest and the stiffness of the back mesh. If they made adjustable armrests for it it will be perfect for me.
Is it good for sitting long hours like more than 8 hrs? Heard mesh is not good for long hours sitting as it can sag over time. Markus is head adjustable?
How tall are you?
this was the problem for me for a while but I ended up getting a taller desk, and now it fits perfectly. I never use the headrest though
I had the same issue and also removed the arm rests.
I've got the leather version and my ass keeps sliding off the seat, and I do miss the handles to push myself back.
And after 3 years the dampner occasionally just falls down, need to contact IKEA for this. And something is squacking when I lean really far back, but I just saw that it's a simple lube fix.
I've also replaced the rollers with inliner wheels, which won't mess up the wooden floor we have. The original wheels and the plastic floor mat was not nice.
I've been pretty much living on my desk and the mesh is still stiff. But if you're sitting the whole day I'd invest in a more expensive chair with better back support and other ergos.@@neo6259
3:45 , Thank you for this !!!
*WHOA*
We got *Zhang'd* twice within the span of a month?
Just watched this video to decide if I wanted to keep my MARKUS or get one of the other models. I decided to keep it but take the arm rests off :)
ncie comparison,thanks for that
Thank you fo the information 🤠
Please do a review of the IKEA Matchspel if you can! The comparison between that and the other IKEA adjustable office chairs would be interesting.
Have you looked at IKEA ALEFJÄLL? Looks very interesting.
love your reviews, have you considered reviewing back and seat support cushions? . they can make a crappy chair feel even better then some higher end chairs.
Hi David... it's 2020... and I can't go to a store and sit in a chair... thank you for this video. I also cant afford $1000 bucks for a herman miller, and my couch isn't cutting it 🤷🏾♀️
yea me too
Don't know if they changed it by now, but the HATTEFJÄLL does have adjustable armrests.
Thanks to these comments below, I finally bought Markus and i seriously loved it. Jarv is almost twice the price so the choice is pretty simple.
Twice the price? Where are you from? Here the jarv is only like 30$ more expensive 😂 (jarv without arms. With arms it'll be 60$ more)
In spain they are the same price
Sorry if you mentioned at some point but whats your approx weight? I find for me, that impacts the way I feel in a chair - I don't like to fully sit on top of a chair (too firm) or sink to the bottom of the cushion after a few minutes (too soft). Thanks for your videos!
My back thanks you for this review and your channel. I just grabbed the JÄRVFJÄLLET (prefer it over the Markus) over any of the gaming chairs on the market and its an absolute dream. I cant believe how much a difference it is making to my old "racer" style chair. I dont feel tiered after sitting in it for a few hours and its just so much better for the price.
how are your experience after 3 months?
@@antoshechka Would still recommend it. I have to admit its not as good for "lounging" in watching videos but for typing and working where it encourages you to sit up, its good. I dont feel however that the chair would suit a large or heavy person.
@@simont1299 thanks for your feedback. I'm not able to compare Marcus and JÄRVFJÄLLET (there is no IKEA in my town) so i choose JÄRVFJÄLLET based on better adjustability.
@@antoshechka did you get it ? if yes, what do you think about it ?
@@Le.kine1 How is it not good for lounging? What prevents it from doing that well?
markus is relax AF... I just bought it today...
Yesterday after 30 minutes of sitting and switching betwen those chairs I decided to buy the MARKUS. In my opinion it is bettter if you prefer something more comfy, like a sofa. The JÄRVFJÄLLET is better for someone who wants it for work purposes and would need more support while sitting straight.
100%
I bought the Jarvfjallet and I regret not getting the Markus. I guess the stupid adjustable features just got me sold without thinking...
First time I heard the Markus has soft-ish or in any case malleable (because people are triggered by "soft" for poser reasons) and comfortable seat cushion. If I had known that before... Because this and the low, unadjustable armrests, followed by the low lumbar support, were the main reasons for me never quite making the jump, although I probably would have been much happier with it than with other trash. I had always heard that it was super-hard, but the direct comparison says a lot.
The armrests on the JÄRVFJÄLLET do adjust
Ive had markus chair for a year now, i can say its amazingly comfortable and great especially for its price!
@SUFFQR im 169 cm
@SUFFQR hmm maybe, it is a bit tall but i think its comfortable! I dont think i will be buying another chair
@SUFFQR you can always visit ikea and test the chairs out there! They usually have them out for testilg
@SUFFQR oh i see :/
@SUFFQR think thw headrests are about same height! But hope you like it!
David : "You know what to do"
Me : What i need to do ?
Exactly 😂
Excellent review , i bought the Markus and initially was comfortable , but after about 2 days i started having a lower back ache , and agree on the armrests , they need to be adjustable and softer material, i added foam and wrapped them in leather , but after a week my back was getting worse due to the not adjustable lumbar, i had to give it back. if the lambar was adjustable i would have kept it because it was comfortable. i am 6'2" and about 260 .
thanks for your feedback
I agree, the lumbar support is too low unfortunately for tall people.
Speaking from experience you want the more dense foam as the more plush one on my old ikea chair has now worn out and i can feel the steel base.
Also to add to this the warranty will only cover; the frame and moving parts so if the material wears out or tears your SOL.
I've been using the Markus for almost 2 years now.
It's good, but in the beginning I had to adjust to the chair, and not the other way around. Specially because I'm tall and the seat doesn't go too deep
mine is 15 years old now. leather is worn but the cusions are still fine.
Do you recommend it for sitting more than 8 hrs?
@@neo6259 bro you should not be sitting 8 hours
@@prntm926 I don't continuously sit 8 hrs. Every hour or half an hour or even sometimes 15 mins or so, I get off my seat for something else.
I found Markus lumbar is much more comfortable and softer than JArv. But I hated how hard it is to recline. It require so much strength to push it back,then I have to lean forward to access to the lock so it basically doesn’t work.
So for the Jarv I like how I can effortlessly lean back a bit but not too much while have the chair tucked in to allow my body close to the table. But I don’t feel much of the lumbar support and it’s hard I would put a think cushion inbetween. The Hat chair more comfortable than I expected, looks good only thing is missing a head support which I wanted other wise it felt quite supported to have back to back to the chair while tuck close to the table.
Buuut IKEA lack of stock for god knows how long I don’t know when I’ll be able to get the Jarv chair
its been 2 years but... you can adjust the strrngth of the recline from the big circular knob.
Brand new Markus squeaks when spinning and leaning side to side, have lubed just about everything i can think of.
Lube the thing between your legs and see if it squeaks anymore
What about kneeling chairs? Could you do a comparison on kneeling chairs vs normal office chairs?
David, when are you going to try the Steelcase gesture or leap in your house? They have like a 30 days trial
hey David what do you think of leather version in term of comfort?
Adjustable armrest is mandatory for me
pay then
@@imnotasher4892 what. what the fuck are you saying.
@@broodjekaas820 if you want more adjustment options you have to pay for them, easy as
that being said they just need to add that to the Markus and they're golden
@@acidset ah yeah true, I regret buying the jarvfjallet because it lacks customizability like armrests and seat tilt sensitivity.
I agree. And as far as I know IKEA have no chairs with adjustable armrests. No idea why...
As a small person, I could cry over how many chairs I have tried, especially gaming chairs. I just sink in. Then I tried the Hattenfjäll and fell in love immediatelly. Finally a chair in which I can sit straight and am FULLY supported. It forms around all my back to the legs and just locks me into a proper working position. Also sitting relaxing on it, is possible. (Currently sitting on it crosslegged) The adjustments are awesome. Sadly the chair nowadays costs 299€. IKEA is robbing people cause 3 years back it costed 215€.
How tall are you? I'm 5'1" and have the same issue. I've been looking at HATTEFJÄLL, ALEFJÄLL and JÄRVFJÄLLET.
@@jammydoughnuts I am 5'4" 👍
@@jammydoughnuts I'm only 5' but I bought the Jarfvjallet one 😂 did I make a wrong choice? 😂
@@jean-tatlock26 how is it going with your back? Considering to buy same
I am tall and all chairs in this video have the same problem that is half of my leg is in the air while sitting in them
Thank you! Can i dismantle the armrests from the markus. I would use it without armrest.
You can buy the chair without the armrests. Cheaper also.
Love the JÄRVFJÄLLET chair.
Sir, I had tried Markus chair at a local IKEA store and fell in love immediately with it (Vissle, dark grey version as I strongly dislike the faux leather). Then I watched this video many times over - even when testing the chair right on the spot for the second time :-). Please accept my thanks for doing such valuable and informative videos. As I am 189 cm tall (6ft 3in), Markus fits me perfectly and infinitely better than literally tens of chairs I tried at six specialist furniture stores within the past week (with prices ranging from 200 to 600 USD). Here in the Czech Republic, Markus is favourably priced (3490 CZK/152 USD based on today’s conversion rate) and they provide a 99 CZK/5 USD delivery up to 50 kg per single item (I do not drive). Not that I do not contemplate a Herman Miller chair but for now I am very happy.
Doesn't the lumbar support bothers you ? I'm 185-186 cm and it's too low for me.
@@botzer8817 Not in the slightest. Yes, I definitely feel it being present but find it comfortable and soothing for my lumbar back. But chairs, as many other things in life, tend to be rather subjective affair. :-)
Thank's a lot
2:14 that’s what she said
You have just saved me!
Which one would be best for a tall (194cm) and heavy (130kg) man?
I spent 2 hours at my IKEA sitting in Markus and Järvjellet. And I was so disappointed.. The Järvjellet has great features, and the backrest with lumbar support and headrest are awesome fo my 186 cm. But that seat is just horrible. Its not only way to short for anyone over 180 cm, but it also is such a thin foam that you basically sit on the wood after just 5 mins. SO I got the Markus and although I don't really like the headrest, as it should better be a neckrest, but pushes your head forward uncomfortably, the seat feels great and the reclinement is pretty good for its price...
I just don't get why they couldn't make the Järv a bit better cushioned and give it a tad longer seat, than it would be perfetc for so many people. Such a missed opportunity imo!
Which chair did you get in the end
@@jayden_2954 " SO I got the Markus and although I don't really like the headrest..."
skiress123 I tried the Markus. Absolute lovely in my back
@@jayden_2954 how tall are you?
@@antoshechka 5’10
I've used the Markus for for (even though my budget was over $500) for the past 3 years. A couple of mods I've done: remove the lower back foam insert, and flipped the arm rests so they are down and out of the way. I'm 6' and I like it.
Did you still had lumbar support without it or nothing at all?
@@ancestralrocha7709 there is still lumbar support. The mesh back holds the shape. It was too intense before but now it's perfect.
@@modestmaking5314 Thank you mate
@@modestmaking5314 Yeah, I'm having a similar issue with the foam insert being a bit too intense (but it is new and maybe breaks in). If you rip the foam insert out, is it impossible to put back in?
@@Tephnos Not at all. It's a little tricky to get it out as you have to open the back of the chair, but it's possible to take it out and put it back if desired. I don't think you'll want to put it back though.
Apparently, harder and more dense cushions for the seat of a chair is better than a softer cushions over longer sitting sessions.
Which chair would you recommend period from any store?
My biggest problem is that every chair I try the cushion bottoms out after like an hour of use, and im relatively light. Do any of these suffer from that issue?
Can you do a "Totaly how to not sit" in those chairs? I have a DXRacer that I want to replace and sometime I pull my legs in it just to change position, other times I lean back with my arms behind my neck, or I just let one leg hang over the side; and then it is a DXRacer I can flip it far back so I almost can rest in it. So how far can you push the relaxed sitting in those chairs.
One reason I want to change is that the DXRacer looks like a monolith in my apartment.
For 250 euros you can e.g. buy a pro-tech 200, which is just more durable as these Ikea chairs. These are clearly built to sit on for multiple hours a day.
David, what do you think about Ergoal One
office chair?
I’m in love with the design of the HATTEFJÄLL chair but is it worth the money? It’s a lot to spend on a chair and they have brought out a black wheeled version but it’s even more money.
Id rather buy the one from your local supermarket
Thanks
I got one, dono name. It has foam - pretty tough for your butt. Does not tilt too much - pretty useless for a resting position. Only good thing is that even after some 2y of usage it works fine and does not make noises too much. The cylinder though kinda pushed into the base to the limit, soon I will have to try to get it out and contain it a bit else it might touch the ground.
I went to ikea to try out their gaming chairs ,ended up sitting in the Markus for 20 min or so.
Thing is they’re removing the leather one ,according to staff.
Went home saw a few Markus used online ,and immediately bought one just a few 100 m from my home for 20€.
Love that chair when gaming ,I’m 193 and 96 kg and it suits me fine.
I use two small pillows as neck and lumbar support
Why do you use pillows if it suits you fine
@@Gotlererer because it makes even a better fit that way of course.
Fair enough. But in my opinion if you need to use someting like pillows to get better feeling then it probably doesnt suit you that well xd
@@Gotlererer i guess a 200-300€ chair would ,but for the price ,lots of bang for the buck.
One factor is looks/design as well ,pretty neutral.
Imagine having a red/green ugly racing chair.
I think I'll need some comfy cushion no matter chair since both neck and back is pretty banged up