Doctor Zhivago - Scene on Road
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2012
- The scene right before Yuri (Dr. Zhivago) and Lara meet amidst the Bolshevik deserters who cross paths with a group of replacement soldiers on a road, a deliberate homage to King Vidor's "The Big Parade" (1925), reportedly one of David Lean's favourite films. A classic scene in its own right, but also both inspiring and hilarious - perhaps my favourite of the film. This idea of standing your ground also parallels nicely with the scene in Fyodor Dostoevsky's novel "Notes From Underground" (1864), when the Underground man triumphantly walks straight into an officer on the street, demonstrating his free will and preserving his dignity.
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Always for me, this is perhaps the most powerful scene in the movie.
This scene had stuck with me for decades.
Scenes like this actually happened during WWI when Russian troops abandoned the front by the millions, killing their commanding officers. The officer with the big white mustache was a real officer. A major officer in the Czar's army. He looked just like that in real life. I think he was killed similar to this in real life.
By the way, the exact same thing happened with American troops during the later years of the Vietnam War. On a smaller scale. Individually. It was called fragging. It is not uncommon in war.
Sometimes the little guys win!
When you are in combat, anyone who acts in a manner that will get you needlessly injured or killed is your enemy, hence the attrition of “butter-bars” in-country.
Yes, it has probably happened in every war on earth. It is not uncommon, especially when morale is low and things are going poorly.
In Vietnam it was called "fragging" on u.s. infantry officers around 1969-71 who wanted to be a little bit too gung-ho when the Vietnamese Civil War which we had no reason being involved in was coming to a close.
And Now it's Ukraina Time in Year of 2022 ♍
Notice the soldiers are equipped with Spanish Mauser M-1893 Rifles. I understand from a comment below that much of the film was shot in Spain.
A lot of big-budget films, plus spaghetti westerns, were filmed in Spain in the 1960's. Generalissimo Franco made sure his countrymen cooperated.
Reality also was russia couldn't supply the army so you will see a few photos with foreign weapons issued!🤔
Kinda like in ukraine 2024🙄
Jman
When everyone just wants to go home, and someone stands in their way.
Like now in 2023: putin....
The best scene arguably is when the captain falls through the barrel and gets shot!
Same needs to happen to the Russian oligarchs of today. Scumbags. Starting with Putin.
Such an underrated film
Six Oscars and 8th most domestically grossing movie of all times (when adjusted for inflation). Your definition of "underrated" is pretty strange.
wilfie herron it’s not underrated, it just not known to modern audiences
Wrong. Multiple Academy Awards. On the American Film Institute list of the Top 100 Films of all time.
Is it? Rated just about right, I reckon.
Scott makes an excellent observation. Wealth distribution has plagued humanity for 3,000 years and it's just as bad today as it ever was.
Sorry, no. In the old days, the poor often faced starvation while rich had plenty to eat. Now poor people consume more calories than do rich people.
we are able to feed the people though , it would be a mistake to compare mass starvation to a situation where you have to take a bus instead of driving a Porsche to work
Was no better under the USSR.
honestly i would say its even worse now because digital currency makes it much easier to control it. we see this with US sanctions.
That "thin veneer" (order) of civilization can be peeled off so easily and quickly if the situation is just right. This road scene is a very good example. Has happened many times in the past, and we will see it again.
Hopefully!!!
Portland, Oregon and Minneapolis.
Bane: Do you feel in charge?
These soldiers were sent hell, and could expect nothing to improve if they won.
The Czarist goverment brought doom upon themselves.
And civilization consists in marching to the trenches and the organized mass slaughter of a world war?
Such mutinies (in reality) must have been reenacted many times at that time. Effectively the real beginning of the Russian Revolution. In the film, this mutiny scene is one of the best parts. I don't know what you mean by hilarious, but I agree it is a classic scene in the film.
Te faci de cocoi se
fun fact the Frech shot over 900 of their own men in ww1. they are the Number 1 army in Europe for military executions in ww1.
Who is watching because of Prigozhin's coup?
History may be repeating itself.
The captain standing on the barrel is the portuguese actor Virgílio Teixeira.
I have never heard of that particular actor but he was very good looking.
@@helencampbell4900 He was said to look a lot like US actor Tyrone Power. And his son, Pedro Teixeira, another actor, is also said to be good looking. Idk... : th-cam.com/video/J9PMnJfmTGE/w-d-xo.html
Oh, history, you are always on our minds.
one wack thing about this scene (along with a lot of the movie) is that even though it's supposed to be winter and there's "snow" on the ground, you can't see anyone's breath when they talk.
That's because a great deal of it was filmed in Spain, where the temperature was around 77°.
+Kenneth Darden Why do you think they shot in Spain then and not entirely in Finland (they just shot some of the train scenes there as far as I know)??
+Michael Martinez Affordability, easier to access locale, and it is much easier to keep a large crowd and crew warm in Spain than Finland.
Also the fact that the soldiers in the scene are clearly equipped with surplus Spanish M-1893 Mauser rifles. If they had filmed it in Finland they could have been historically accurate and used Russian Mosin-Nagant M-1891 rifles. The Finns had thousands of surplus M-91 rifles which they had captured from the Russians during the Winter and Continuation Wars. Many of these Finnish M-91 rifles eventually found there way here to the U.S.
minor point.
This incident gets a single sentence in the novel.
My favorite scene.
YOUR Country!! - and as long your are not willing to understand what these two words means here - there is nothing to discuss at all!!
Frank Koester yawn.
*BANG*
2:54 Next time you feel like I insulting Russian communists just remeber this...they invented crowd surfing
😂
A great movie, but the real beginning of the revolution was by the women textile workers striking on International Working Women's Day. The strike spread across the city to other factories, then men started coming out too. There was massive police violence against them, yet they persisted. That was February. 9 months later, after October, the workers had gained power of the old Tsarist empire. There was no violence this time. They simply occupied all the key points of industry and power and controlled them for themselves. 6 people died, all a result of accidents.
"YOUR country, officer!" reminds me of the part in "Chinatown" when Evelyn Mulwray tells Jake "He OWNS the police!"
He's correct the czarist goverment did not give a dam about the rank and file.
The same happened on the western front. My grandfather and his Canadian battalion often fraternized with the Germans when the higher up officers weren't around.
i hope they at least took the opportunity to trounce them at hockey. wouldn't be sportsmanlike otherwise HEHEHE.
Meanwhile Lara is just chillin in the med wagon away from the melee. I'd do the same,ha.
Per il TUO PAESE! Per la TUA CASA!. DOVREMMO MORIRE? Mi ricorda quello che sta' succedento adesso.
Ahh what good times they had in 1917
A repeat of this scene may be occurring at this very moment in Russia.
Vlads nightmare.
The best scene is that old man being brought down.
No, poor old guy murdered by a heartless mob.
Holden Fitzroy
Heartless Mob ? No they were shaking off
tyranny.
One band of criminals out to rob another. Not much for the Bolsheviks to be proud of.
And invited in an even worse tyranny
oilersridersbluejays
and did they know any better ? One bunch of criminals to another. BUT the following jerks
(communists) at least had a philosophy behind them. Of course practiced as never intended but that's what an ethos is for right ?
By this time in the War the Russian army was mainly fighting the AustroHungarians. Not the German army.
Yes but there was still substantial amounts of Germans in the Eastern Front up to 1918.
This is probably the spontaneous revolution of February 1917 that led to the Kerensky interim government. The Bolsheviks would seize power in October (the unwillingness of the Kerensky government to pull out of the war and abandon the Western allies was a major reason the interim government fell). The Austrian-Hungarian forces were as badly smashed by the Russians from 1914-1916 and were practically finished as an offensive fighting force--or as a fighting force at all (they still held on the Italian and Serbian fronts). All the 15+ ethnicities that made up the Austro-Hungarian "empire" were deserting or surrendering en masse except for the ethnic Germans and a few others. On the contrary, it was the German army that was putting all the pressure on the Russians. When the Bolsheviks took power, they stalled on a peace treaty as long as they could until February 1918 when the Germans started to advance again to force a resolution. The Bolsheviks were forced to surrender most of Ukraine, Byelorussia and Poland and the Baltic states to maintain there hold on Russia as the new ruling power. This kept close to a million German troops in the east, unable to reinforce the western front. Even after the treaty of Brest-Litovsk in February 1918, the Germans had to keep a large number of troops in the east to requisition and guard the grain supply and other resources (they were being starved by the Allied blockade) against the warring factions in the civil war that had erupted by then. Pinning down large numbers of German troops in the east was possibly decisive in ensuring the failure of the German offensive(s) in March-July 1918 in the west.
+12Spiffy Good point
Maybe, but it was the Germans who imposed the carthaginian Treaty of Brest-Litovsk on Russia in March 1918.
the monocle guy was the real hero :(
Long live the revolution
I don’t feel sorry for the old soldier they beat to death. Revenge. Today many young Russians are used as cannon fodder. That will only last for so long.
Wow, I had no idea that the idea of the mosh pit came from this movie.
What a way to die: stomped to death
HIS belly was full. Phuck him.
Yep
wonderful bang
King Push
And people wonder nowadays why soldiers for the so called U.S. allied regional despots do not want to die fighting even more reckless and terrifying Islamic Jihadists in Iraq or Afghanistan. .
Never before in Russian History had life been so difficult as in these trying times. Friedrich von Francke Czar Romanoff
Came here because of whats happening to the Russian army in ukraine
Lindo dramática
CHICOS ÁNIMO
2:17-2:27
Hey, my life right now
Frieden statt Krieg!
Alguien me puede explicar bien lo que sucedio en esta parte es Urgente!!!!
Very apropos of Putin forcing conscripts into a very unpopular war.
This could be the russian troops coming back from ukraine nowadays....🤔
But it won't be. They still fight, despite the lies of the US media that you believe. Stop being their cuck and do the research. Ukraine is run by fascists. Do the research. Apply critical thinking instead of being told what to think. 😁
2024-03-12 looks like it’s happening from Ukraine back to Russia
The end of the old order! Down with the Tsar.
What exactly happened at @1:29. I've always wondered...
+yackawaytube yeah that part never really rang true for me either. Like that one guy just "cracked under pressure". It couldn't have been that simple. This whole scene I suppose must be taken in as allegorical and an accelerated view of the corruption of the minds of the new recruits that was spread by the defeatist veterans.
thats how you do it
Not united
Ramsan kadirov wants to know his name
Russia is probably only weeks away from the same thing happening again.
this should of happened in Iraq and Afghan
And now in the Ukraine.
Fragged the old general
Battlefield 1 :)
VA CHICOS NOSOTROS PODEMOS
And from Hollywood's perspective......
1916 or 2022?
2023. No seriously, look at what Wagner is doing right now
PA LANTE!!!!!
To Vlad Lenin's statement: "Communism is good." : Yeah, the real thing can be, but the real thing has never been practiced except for maybe the Hutterites.You cannot leave God (or some form of morality) out of it.
It can work only if the group is smaller than Dunbar's Number.
communism is like religion; both systems of fantasy that ignore human nature
Christianity doesn’t
You can leave God just fine. Einstein didn’t believe jn God, are you smarter than Einstein?
Theres two types of peoples, in simple black/white terms. Libertarian or authoritarian incilined personalities. sadly they are in constant conflict. if only they could find a way to co-exist.
Not cool on rodn
Russia had wars before and didn't complain about it. So why is this any different?
They never had Lenin and Stalin before.
It was a World War, that they had started (Russia was the first major power to declare war on another major power, after Austria intervened in Serbia, which triggered the whole network of alliances) and they were losing.
Völkerkrieg in Russland
The general in the white mustache was based on a real general. I forgot his name. White mustache and all.
This scene illustrates events before the Bolshevik Revolution in Oct. 1917 but after the Feb. Revolution.
The White (counterrevolutuonary) general was a commander against the Reds during the Civil War. This scene conflates events during the Revolution and the Civil War.
There was what we come to know as fragging( killing of one's own officers, last 5 years or so of the Vietnam War) on the Russian side. Much of it led by Bolshevik supporters in the army, similar to this scene.
That mutiny leader was probably murdered by the Bolshevik leadership a few years later, because he had a record pre-1918 of defying his superiors.
I bought that same Mosin Nagant rifle at Big 5 for 60 bucks.
Except the soldiers in the scene don't have Mosin-Nagant rifles. They are carrying Spanish Mauser M-1893 rifles.
Maybe a random Russian soldier will do that to Putin.
Or to the Russian officers on the battlefield in the Ukraine
This is the inevitable result for Putin in the near future.
The irony of this scene is that those deserters were marching into a future infinitely worse than the horrors they fled. Stalin would spend 30 years showing them the errors of their ways. Its easy to pull something down; putting something better in its place is extremely hard. And rare.
and who is the present day white Russian or should I ask is that the farm lands of Ukraine?
It is 2022 and suspect this may happen again for the Russian troops
As I write this, Russia is facing setbacks during Ukraine's 2023 summer offensive and Wagner PMC has just declared war on the Russian Ministry of Defense and promises a march to Moscow to replace the minister of defense.
Apt analogy to the Russian vets who powered the Bolshevik Revolution.
keep dreaming that whole ting ended in less them 24 hours. but i hear that Russia is putting on a show of the NATO AFV's that we keep donating to Russia by way of Ukraine.
Russian units in Ukraine right now
AYN 4ÀND
England 2025
White army forever
This is what should be happening all along the russian front lines in Ukraine right now.
Soviet is traitor of russia. German is close but act like that?? Lol
November 2022 in Russia. History repeating…
they really show the Plight of the regular Russian during this period. Tzar Nicholas and his entire gang had it coming. unfortunately the "revolution" was just a disorganized mess with countless factions that seemingly appeared and disappeared at random and that is how we got the Soviet Union under Stalin.
If only that old colonel were putin
Or you yourself
American Troops after four years of Comrade Trump :D
Soviet union
Nice mobbery.
About to start again in 2022 in Ukraine.
9 th of May Sovets came to win wirhin their common friends!- against a natinal Faschismus
RUSSIA
Soon in Russia again.
Communism is good.
Vlad Lenin Obama agrees
I know with absolute, positive 100% certainty that you never had to live in a communist country.
Sorry I'm late'r. "Gulag Archipelago" Look the book up. More importantly, READ IT!!
Soon to be repeated in Russia 2023...