Jordan: This is not my opinion. These are just the facts. Interviewer: I don't want to hear facts. I want to hear your opinion so that I can accuse you of having a terrible opinion.
The most frustrating thing about these types of interviews is that the interviewer has no genuine interest in understanding JBP and his views. That’s why I prefer people like Joe Rogan or Dave Rubin who have a genuine curiosity about the people they interview.
I feel you dude but personally I'm unsure about Joe Rogan from what I've seen. I’ve noticed multiple instances of him not even trying to understand where his guests are coming from. He also didn’t seem to understand that people aren’t, on the spot, always able to say things in the exact spirit of what they mean. That kind of lack of understanding seems, to me, to be the temperament of someone who’s far more dismissive than they are curious. I’ve heard from people that he’s improved over time though so maybe I’ve just coincidentally seen his bad talks amongst an ocean of good ones, I'm open to that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Genuine interests in that Canadian hack!? Peterson is a no one who is out there to make some buck of out gullible impressionable males. And he is succeeding in that money making enterprise.
In every single one of these podcasts, they always seem to want to "get" him on some point, yet they just give up and move on to the next question. This man is truly wonderful. 👏🏽
Jordan B. Peterson : "my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel. What your leader is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture."
yeah people give up because its nearly impossible to get through a thick wall of words without meaning. thats the only thing this moron is good at. speaking convoluded and fooling you people
It's a common tactic by "journalists" fishing for soundbites. She also tries to load his lips several times with "what you're saying is....", and "so you believe ...". They're not used to dealing with someone of Jordan's caliber pushing back and they end up look amateurish. His highlight reel is right up there with the other Jordan I like.
@@furerorban1488 that's legitimately the flimsiest, most pathetic excuse i've ever heard to justify an authoritarian who's actively indoctrinating children and shitting on the weakest, most disenfranchized minorities in his country. Absolutely disgraceful and gross
Wow this really hard to listen to, it's pretty obvious that she is attempting to trap him into some clickbait statement to add to her bias cause. I'm amazed at the temperament and patience of this man.
I think she did a good job of research, and had decent questions. The issue is her demeanor when she gets knocked off topic was slightly antagonistic and came from her political bias.
He is truly cool. When I was a boy I looked up to guys who had the confidence to walk up to girls in the street, as a man I look up to men who can engage them, challenge them, and make them laugh with intelligence, and charisma. Russell Brand and JP exemplify "cool" to me.
Do you recall the part where she's insinuating that Peterson is being a misogynistic asshole when he says that regarding aggression, women tend to lean towards verbal / gossip / character assassination (or was it "career assassination" or something like that?) as compared to men tending to lean towards physical aggression (at least comparatively)? Because it's so... ironic, let's say, that as she was insinuating that, she was exhibiting so much of precisely what Peterson was referring to immediately prior.
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 The highlight segment 46:05 'Out of control women bullies will destroy reputations, which is the dominant female method of aggression. I studied this 15 years. I'm an expert.'
@C Atanic Sorry you can't read or understand. I quoted Dr. Peterson. You got angry and lied. He studied antisocial disorder for 15 yrs. Telling the truth is love. Leftists telling you lies is hate.
The trick is to realize and accept a fundamental truth no matter how revolting or unfair: Good people have to play by different rules than bad people. Same rules don't apply to everybody. Evil people will taunt, mock, bully, provoke and all manner of immoral and uncivil behavior, in the attempt to get you to their level, where they can drag you through the mud. NOBODY will condemn them for that behavior, but will crucify you if you accept the challenge. They want to change the subject, no matter the debate, to how inappropriate YOU are, because they don't posses the truth or the facts and they know it. DONT LET THEM! DONT BE TEMPTED TO RETALIATE. No one will care who started it, and they will blame you, ALWAYS. It's hard, but if you keep your cool and stick to the subject, it actually becomes a lot more satisfying and productive, not only because you win the argument, but because this is what pains them the most. They are getting cancer while watching you destroy their rhetoric with facts, while their impotent attacks glance off you like toy arrows off tanks.
@@oldscorp unfortunatley the sort of ppl you are challenging with logic comes in waves! so you can win against a wave or two but when something illogical comes and a cryout is made with only emotional perspective, the loss will be closer and closer! at the end of the day you will just have a war against yourself!
It's important to not target a person. Rather the ideas their putting forth. Therefore it's positively critical to restate the idea to insure that one is truly arguing the idea. Jordan Peterson has long argued he will build up an opposing idea as strong as he can to pay it respect before taking it on. In this way no one can say he didn't give the devil his due.
@@Hongkongnyc jp uses objective sounding language when most of the time he's expressing an opinion. The fact that none of you seem to understand that speaks for itself 🤩
It's not just this interview, seems to be loads of media outlets were they send him up against a woman who does not want to listen and then fails to make basic assumptions that would be common place in normal conversation, like thinking that serial harassers are vomit inducing. To be fair though that last point mainly connects to that fact that these women are expecting literal Hitler to come to the interview, not the most mild mannered Canadian dad of the internet. JBP: "Clean your room" Internet: *Sigh* "Fine....."
Scott Ferguson True. Despite not really caring for Russell Brand, he gave EXACTLY what a proper interview consists of; questions that allow the person to dissect and explain what they mean, ask for elaborations, ACTUALLY LISTENING to the elaborations, approach the interview as if the person has something to teach you, don’t project, offer healthy criticism, play devil’s advocate when needed, etc.. She seems to be disagreeing just for the sake of disagreement without offering anything concrete to combat JP’s citations of well-established studies. As an interview, it sucks. But for the 4,000 “JP Destroys....” videos/week, it’s another goldmine.
Marino Mazzei Exactly! I was surprise by Russel actually he did a great job, and I think it mainly comes down to the difference between a discussion of ideas versus what we got here, point scoring.
The discussion with Matt Dilahunty was also a really good one, and I think he actually challenged Peterson's worldview meaningfully and they both offered good justifications for their ideas. They demonstrated different ways to view the universe and truth, while being very entertaining as well.
I actually used to respect her and think she was better than the SJW snowflakes also writing in the London Evening Standard. She comes over very poorly here, as if trying to ape Cathy Newman - but not being able to summon the same level of malevolence.
using the word "destroying" towards other person really makes me think that you didnt pay any attention to the subject. Exactly that kind of terms were discussed, but it clearly didnt sink in. Or maybe you just took a nap mid-conversation
@@joananeto9607 sure the word destroying may not be entirely appropriate, how about dismantling, he dismantled every question he was thrown because he understands when someone is being intellectually honest and when they are trying to trap him in a corner with a soundbyte.
@@joananeto9607 Right! If you ask Fugazi to summarize the talk in a few words he couldn't even do that. He just thinks the woman lost just because she was non-assertive and allowed Peterson to talk over her.
@@generalfusweden3797everyone Is a forever student of life, we all should strive to evolve our opinions based on relevant new data..she is humble and smart enough to admit that some of her opinions were changed, we all need to open to changing our mind and not letting our beliefs/views stagnate. New thoughts and tools are how we evolve.
We all were students, are students and will be students?@@generalfusweden3797And many great literary works were done by students and not by the masters.
@@generalfusweden3797So, you decided at some point in your life, that you know everything there is to know and to stop learning? It must be wonderful to be as enlightened and all-knowing as you are!
Every time she can tell she’s outmatched she interrupts and changes the subject. He’s so gracious that he lets her do it Every. Single. Time. Kudos to him I couldn’t manage it.
I think that's the one thing he did wrong in the interview honestly. He needed to stay calm just as he was and drive some points deeper. Staying with his completely relaxed manner, he just needed to say "before we move on from _ _ _ _, I'd like to elucidate it further." That way Jordan could demonstrate the absolute invalidity of her points. I know for most non-lunatics what Peterson said was enough, but I'm talking about the ones that are on the fence of lunacy lolllll.
@@markshanahan8147 yeah I feel the same way. By letting her change the subject he doesn’t really get to show how wrong she is, and she definitely won’t change her mind about those points unless he makes her look foolish.
I'm far more impressed about that he is never in need to call it out. He's more focused in embarassing her, by raising the quality of the conversation immediately up, when he starts to talk. Contrasting her argumentative inferiority.
it's weird to see someone so openly ignorant, and who is totally convinced of their being some value in her arrogance. She clearly hasn't understood what it is to appreciate someone who can so easily destroy their opponent like peterson does. She should be thanking him for destroying her. Such an ugly woman in so many ways
Oh don't be so naive. He's there because he wants to sell books. They both know that - she's working for a company that is benefiting from the click revenue. It isn't a debate to search for universal truths. It's a financial transaction.
Haha, I just noticed that. JBP is an amazing man beyond any description that I have the capacity to write. Thank you so much for your dedication and honesty that is so evident to anyone watching.
The more complex one's mind, the more distractions it seeks while not being fully engaged. Fidgeting, drawing, playing with things, tapping fingers and a general restlessness are good signs of that.
Her complete lack of humility and respect while interviewing someone who is so clearly superior to her is what (to me) is so shocking about this interview. Her behavior (trying to catch him and then casually changing the subject when she has obviously failed) was abhorrent. It’s also fascinating to me that so many people try to bring this guy down. My life has completely changed for the better as a direct result of him.
These journalists believe that they are smarter than JP, and if they can discredit him, they will be famous among other journalists... They never seem to realize how wrong their beliefs are in their ability to out smart someone so much more intelligent and educated than the journalists are.
No joke, talk about moving the goalposts. Every single time he starts to explain himself or his position, she butts in and redirects the conversation where SHE WANTS IT TO GO. What a crap interviewer she is.
Love this comment. I wrote a whole paragraph ranting and raving by how much this woman frustrated me. I am decided not to post, and will aspire to manage my temper like Jordan.
@@sarahroberts8724 He just perplexes these people doesn't he? These intelligent career women who think they've got it all worked out and think that because he appeals to incels etc that must mean Jordan is against women. He doesn't get angry; that's just one of the wiley ways we antagonise those we want to antagonise. He just can't contain his frustration at their relentless obtuseness.
@@hansiesma16 He absolutely does. I'm amazed they think that they can get the better of him with such pernicious tactics. It's sad they miss the opportunity to learn something!
I met JP last month in Cincinnati (after an entire year of waiting). I've never been happier in my life. As soon as it was my turn to get a picture with him for the "meet and greet", anxiety hit me hard. It's so weird meeting someone you admire. I've listened to every one of his debates, speeches, and audio books, and he's genuinely changed my life. Anyways, it was my turn to walk up to him for a picture and I got major butterflies. I looked at him and choked up a little. I said "my heart is pounding so hard. You are my personal hero Dr. Peterson." He smiled, looked into my eyes, and asked what my name was. I told him and he shook my hand and said "It's a pleasure to meet you, Peter." His speech that night was incredible, insightful, and downright beautiful. The man radiates warmth, kindness, and compassion. I'm so glad I got a chance to meet the person I admire most in this world. He genuinely makes me want to become my best self.
JBPeterson: "My message to the Hungarians Do not rebel against your PM Your leader is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the 1000 years old Hungarian empire I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your PM. Another name for Jesus is Viktor"
i don't have any clue what all that drivel was. who's victor? what PM Huh? who ? who cares? ...what "message?" nothing you said made ANY sense at all@@furerorban1488
you are a very scary individual. there's nothing of foundation in your "empire" ....and your secret about JEBUS doesn't really impress me@@furerorban1488
Drops loaded question. Doesn't hear desired answer. Drops more loaded questions with a hint of character attack. Gets smacked with perfect image destroying answer delivered while doodling.
7 reasons why I already admire Jordan Peterson and I just discovered him last week Jordan Peterson makes being smart attractive!! 1.A good teacher Jordan Peterson is very intelligent ,he has the ability to take complex subjects and turn them into digestible, easily understandable information not to mention that he uses regular stories,the Bible and movies and different religions as examples 2.A great orator (Articulate/Assertive) He is very articulate , a great story teller in deed! one can listen to him for hours , I don't remember the last time I was excited to listen/watch an interview. He is very assertive, he knows how to get his point across and he alligns his words so well that if you would cut off the interviewer part his answers perfectly follow up ... just as if it was a speech . 3.Great composure/patience Anyone in their right mind would attack the interviewer not Jordan Peterson, I think he has a perfect mind that's how he can stand her, keep calm, even think about his answers ,and to some questions that I thought were pure mischaracterisation and that he shoud decline to answer ... nonetheless he answered ... so much respect to you Mr Peterson ! 4.His compassion his compassion and ability to show empathy and emotions when necessary. He cares about the individual ,his/her progress and that's how you know if he met you he would value you, #you matter # you are important# you don't have to come as a group to get my attention# I can see you True, we may have similar experiences but our copying mechanisms are different ,our challenges are different So it's important to be seen as an individual, to be encouraged to improve ,that's how one can feel valuable and since we are social beings we tend to share, we spread both negativity and positivity so that's how you start a cycle of goodness, hardwork, selfrespect....and more Basically teach me how to catch a fish and I'll do it myself next time. Not deliver fishes to me so I can be codependent and lose self respect because I am incapable of taking care of myself and I can't live without you. And by the way a strong group is usually comprised of strong individuals, a good team is usually comprised of good players there's no other way around it. One cannot aspire to the well being of the group while neglecting the individual. 5.His confidence/courage Jordan Peterson is so confident that he is not afraid to say the truth he stands for what he believes in ,he defends his ideas regardless the discomfort it may cause and that's very courageous 6.His humility Not only does he give examples about his own shortcomings but something else that's very fascinating about him is that regardless everything he knows that the majority if not all of his listeners or even average people don't know he has the humility of saying something most of us are ashamed of saying which is I don't know.. 7.His good looks I think I might be wrong that Jordan Peterson is the kind of handsome man who probably doesn't have a clue he is or who probably is even surprised people mention it but I'm glad to say I'm not the only non-feminist woman who says that ,He is very handsome indeed! and his calmness just takes it to another level So I would say Jordan Peterson is a perfect & imperfect man , listening to him definitely teaches me alot , I am becoming smart overnight! So thank you!
Among the 12 rules for life - IF a cat comes up to on the street, pat it. I do that without have read this book. It's a wonderful feeling, actually. A friendly soul, small and vulterable, comes up and gives you affection, greets, implicitly trusts you etc. It's enough to make my heart melt. One such cat came into my garage. She was emaciated, with long matted gray fur, but with big and alert eyes. I was leaving the garage and she walked with me. I went out by the side door, closed it, and then she stopped. She turned around and slunk into a hole in the siding. Each day after that, I put out a bowl of chicken, and later proper cat food. My little "ghost" came out to greet me every morning outside the garage, and ate her food. Then one morning she came out with three tiny little kittens, and presented them to me. After that, I took mom and her babies into my family. There she and her kittens lived out their lives. We have one of those kittens left. He is now almost 16 years old. It all started with a lost and desperate soul trusting me with her life, and it lead to so much joy. Follow the rule, and pat a strange cat if it comes up to you. If you are able, adopt it.
But these are the ones in which he particularly shines in his answers. I don't really want to watch someone agree with him for an hour, I want to watch him methodically dismantle someone's entire rationale from a psychological frame of reference. THAT'S the good stuff.
Just to be clear, I don't mind confrontation and hard questions, and I think I saw that with the maajid Nawaz interview. Granted I haven't seen all interviews with Peterson and others, and yes, it is a generalization that all his interviews with women have been with shrews. Also I do think he has brilliant answers. But I wrote my comment more out of frustration that so far all the female hosts that I've seen interview him so far seem to come into the interview not to engage him, but rather it seems like they want to gotcha him or destroy him instead. Plenty of male hosts (cough, vice) have tried to do that too, but from my limited view, I've at least seen more male hosts try to give him a chance, less see from female hosts. It probably doesn't need saying, this is not a reflection on women being "b*tches" -- rather I think it's more of a reflection of the women (and men too, to be fair) who are in media and what kind of ideology they subscribe to.
Phil Shen To be fair I thought this was a good interview, she gave him space to explain his views. She asked intelligent Qs as very far as the postmodern left can be expected to pose. I’ve seen almost as many Male interviewers being insufferably thick towards JP as female ones. I don’t think this woman qualified herself to be categorised in the same universe as e.g. Cathy Newman.
As a 34 year old professional, it was 2 years ago after having my 3rd child, I am now a stay at home mother. I stand behind Jordan Peterson. A title and a high figure pay does not match bringing up and being a maternal constant for my household. Less emotionally disregulated children and peace than a decade ago. Keep it up Mr. Peterson!!!
Get the book "Two income trap" by Elizabeth Warren ... a lot of families are now wading through 40/50 years of financial hell only to realise that they're kids are not in a good space. Think a man can stay at home as much as a woman can (if that suits the couple) ... but the concept of dual income household as the norm for society is having / and is going to have lots of long term consequences
Well as a society we are pushed in to believing that we need a certain amount of "stuff" to maintain a "normal" life or to give the appearance of success. The idea of success now is almost entirely material in the western world, it's no accident that people's individual happiness has gone down due to this desire to look materially wealthy.
I can never understand the mindset of thinking there are no differences between men and women and at the same time saying women are innocent and men are evil.
Dr. Peterson is probably the most misunderstood man walking earth. My initial analysis is that it must be exhausting to continually be on the defense; however, after some thought it might not be as strenuous because he doesn’t have to remember to play a character. He simply shows up as himself, and shares information he’s learned over decades of study. People don’t realize he RARELY EVER gives his personal opinion on anything (unless he’s persistently asked to share), his thoughts are based off scientific data and research. I’m always inspired after hearing him speak, God bless you Dr. Peterson!
This woman is infuriating. She interrupts him so much and changes subjects when she doesn't hear her desired answer to a charged question purposely posed for character defamation. This interview was both intriguing and disgraceful.
Its one of the wonderful characteristics of a fool. They expose themselves to the light and thus self destruct and free us all from their mindless, unproductive contributions. Don't worry - Jordan easily handles himself in these situations because of one simple fact: Critical thinking.
I was frustrated early on by Jordan's penchant for interrupting others--saying this as a Peterson fan--but she definitely went from fairly reasonable interlocutor to sleazy social tactician over the course of the interview, until she was absolutely greasy with railroading maneuvers and sidesteps to find a cross upon which he might be crucified.
This woman sounded almost intelligent when she was reading the script at the beginning. As soon as her opinions began to fall out of her mouth, that illusion was quickly dispelled.
Yep. She didn’t sound terribly biased at the immediate beginning but it wasn’t long before she couldn’t even read the script without her bias ooze out into how she delivered it.
She's dumb. Gives bad name to women. She is just not getting anything AND doesn't let HER GUEST finish most of his arguments, so people who DO get it can listen. Is she a paid host who is hired to as questions or a catty argumentative witch in a bar? And whenever she gets so cornered by her own dumbness she can't come up with arguments she just says okay let's come back to...". Oh yeah and a few times she actually yells over (or at) her guest. What a mess of an interview did this witch create! Fire this disrespectful, dumb and emotionally unstable woman.
jup just this..listened to it while cooking and I thought this isnt a bad interview..then I came back with my food and we have the sudden jump from the first half to "MEE TOO, MEE TOO"..gotta admit this old hag got me fuming several times with her stupid pseudo intelligent smirks at this point. Kudos to him
@Elena Komleva i wouldn’t say she’s a representative of women, but she’s a individual, and a rather crass one at that. But I agree with everything else you stated.
The problem is that the mainstream media are activists, not journalists. she wanted this interview, not to defeat Peterson, not to prove the far left justifiable. she wanted it so she could use him to stand atop her ivory tower and gain power from pushing him aside. not that she did, or could. she is here for woke points plain and simple.
if I may, I'll generalize your sentence: SJWs have to stop trying to win an argument with people who actually know what they are talking about, and instead need to try and learn something from those people.
The problem is that these journalists begin with conclusions about the people they interview and try to get interviewees to confirm the journalists conclusions. The journalists already have their narrative, therefore have no need to really listen, or learn. They already believe that they "know" the facts based on their opinions.
Wild that Jordan is having such a complex and high level conversation while also doodling some stars on his note pad. He has an extremely well developed landscape of the ideas that they are discussing and excellent identification of persona that he can do both simultaneously, while still contributing to the conversation and helping the interviewer walk through her arguments. Excellent podcast, btw.
@@bereal6590probably helps him think. I’ll be doing stuff whilst talking to people all the time. Helps me stay more focused on what they’re saying tbh.
@bereal6590 incorrect...unless you have a thing against people with ADHD, cause a lot of us do this to concentrate better...I used to do this in school and would get yelled at for not paying attention, even though they would attempt to catch me not paying attention and fail Edit: typo
@@bereal6590it would be if JBP wasn't engaging with every question being posed to him. He most likely was doodling because she was boring the life out of him by not having an original thought/question for an hour straight
Ra Ra Raspoontang completely out of her league! It’s embarrassing! Like you’d think she’d at least have a handle on the must basic facts! But nada! E.g the percentage of feminist in London?!ffs! She didn’t even have an approximate figure! Ludicrous
@@burgemccole2243 it's not because they agree on too much. Harris and peterson is more interesting because they are of similar intellectual proficiency and have opposing views on god, religion, western culture, Atheism, morals etc, fascinating conversation, I love them both, and shapiro btw
The frustrating part about all these interviews is how obvious it is the interviewers have a specific agenda but what’s encouraging is how much grace Dr Peterson shows while constantly being attacked.
I share the same sentiment this man is attacked and smeared and he handles it with such grace I don't think I can do it. She raises my heart rate just looking at her face
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Having a person who is continuously and maliciously trying to shove words into your mouth is a good enough excuse to lose it already. He was super patient.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 I don’t think you’re wrong at all. I also agree that he got visibly frustrated with her remarks. My point is that I think that was absolutely her intention,to get a rise out of him for views, and my praise of him is that though he was visibly becoming more irritated he never went after her like most of us might have.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Honestly, the whole debate itself is malicious enough. Look at the amount of material she brought and how she ground every word he wrote in his book. This woman prepared for war and if Peterson has slipped even just one, it'd be a public execution.
The frustrating part is that journalists act like experts or even intellectuals. They cite articles written by other halfwit journalists, and pretend they are learned treatises.
I love how she got outraged when he mentioned females tend to use verbal motions to attack someone's character rather than physical violence. And then as a woman tries to paint him as a provokator, a greedy money grabber, and some type of Male dictator. Oh the irony.
Agree that her outrage at his observation was stupid, but there's no irony in her then trying to discredit him in various ways "as a woman". She's just a weak interviewer with a bias trying to catch him out all the time instead of exploring the points more deeply. Peterson's point was that women on average in the wider world tend to attack reputation because physical aggression is not an option to them. In the context of an interview with clear boundaries on physical aggression the playing field is obviously levelled and male interviewers pull the same kind of shit all the time. Surely you've seen it over and over?
greyztone It is ironic that she laughs at the idea that women do something more often while she’s doing it... I don’t see your point in saying this is not ironic...
Peterson is brilliant at patiently explaining to the woke world what we all fundamentally know to be true. What is amazing is that that has become necessary.
Indeed. I got annoyed and frustrated just listening to her. Most of her comments were there just to try to look smart. He, held his ground admirably though.
You can actually see her reading her next line and formulate it in her head while she should be listening and as soon as he stops speaking she fires it at him. She's just not smart enough to do it all at once. Like Jordan can
hahaha now do you get woman?? its in your words... everytime you make a fair and valid point whether in a heated situation or not, but generally when they have been insulted/criticized ive noted. they are doing what you just posted bruh thats women in a nutshell (well some of them)
watch her @ 9:35 she really isn't even listening. And she does this through the whole "interview". More like an interrogation predetermined by her subjective narrative..
@@matthewlarkin5525 Yeah in my years of dealing with women that want to be right or No.1 or the dominant type, when conversations hit those triggers the ladies instantly stop listening go defense/attack mode and try and pick apart any credibility, mock what was said or just get pissy at what has been said. And therefor completely ignore the words directed at them in the first place and also for any response you make to the dribble they spew out there after... TOTAL INSECURITY, aaaand inability to just generally control emotions or filter there mouth.. which is why you dont run nations ladies..NUFF SAID oh and makes you look ever the fools
i just watched these 2 interviews back to back and she is not even close to Cathy. You may not agree with what she thinks and that's fine, but, she wasn't overly aggressive, she didn't rudely interject as much and she definitely didn't put words in his mouth.
The patience and composure of this man speaks volumes past what he already speaks. As I need to work on myself I wouldn't be able to sit for very long while someone criticized my lifes work, views, and bombarded me with questions in an attempt to "get" the interviewed. As well as when the questions are answered in a logical and balanced way the interviewing switches to another topical question when they aren't "winning" the opinionated questioning. JBP keep going strong
Hai Phan I kind of agree but you missed one point. Whenever she disagreed with one of his points she changed topic. And that happened quite a lot, like every minute or so.
I agree Simone. She attacks Jordan... and does a very poor job promoting her view. Bad questioner...asking bad questions, then not really hearing the responses.
@@carycunningham6588 I agree. She never actually bothered to listen to his answers and to try and grapple with them. It's so mind boggling that she doesn't even understand that he's actually criticizing the exact ideology she can't shake herself free from. Peterson: I don't believe you should be viewing the world through a lens of "group identity is paramount." Interviewer: So who's your favorite feminist?
If I may...would you consider this...that what she was pulling was lower than attacking. I couldn't believe it at first but then it was so obvious..she was trolling him...and that's as cheap as it gets.
@simone - that's right. It's hilarious really. I'm sure she'd like to see herself as a radical and intellectual, and she doesn't realize that she's just coming across as thick and nasty. A poor man's Cathy Newman, I reckon.
Well he was wrong on the trans issue. He rallied support for freedom of speech... everyone got on board, but in that same action he treated the trans community like a stubborn beurocrat placing procedural correctness before people needs. So I get the impression he probably have some flawed logic to his ideas on gender too
@@paulesposito7055 yah, no. He has said multiple time that he would respect a trans person's pronouns if they are being genuine. And calling a person by a pronoun, it is not a need, it is a generosity. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Quite an amazing interview. Hats off to both. She hectored as is her job, but was then rebutted, educated, and forced to acknowledge a more evolved and developed intellect and person. Peterson was magnanimous, and patient, with an aggressive ideologue feminist.
@@regalsylvester no, I don’t think so. I think she just blabbed the first thing that came to her mind out of desperation. Peterson was poking holes in her way of thinking so naturally she felt threatened and responded, as shameful as it was.
He's a psychologist not a psychiatrist. Those are two different professions. One requires more science while the other one which Peterson is requires none at all!
Every time he actually starts dismantling her assertions she changes the subject. CLASSIC manipulative practice. She is desperate to remain in absolute control of the interchange. Her goal is not to ask him questions and hear him answer, it is to force him to say what she wants him to say
Most telling when Jordan starts drilling down into the difficult question of how to regulate sexual behaviour at work. You can almost see the interviewer realising she is not going to pin anything on him and may well infact end up in a complex dialogue and wop change of topic.
I love how she has pages full of "gotcha" notes, and Dr. Peterson is simply drawing on a piece of paper, and yet she fails so spectacularly. She is a perfect example of how ideology destroys the rational mind (if she ever had one).
" ideology destroys the rational mind" - that'a a great phrase and so very and depressingly true- not heard it put quite so succinctly - I'm going to us that one myself. Is it a well known quote or did you make it yourself ?
Average IQ ideologically indoctrinated feminist woman (who believes she is highly intelligent, but confuses education with intelligence) tries to take down non ideological well educated intellectual giant. Epic fail for yet another feminist "intellectual".
I think the ideology creeps in when there's a certain void in a personality. This exact type, and so sorry to say it, but predominantly female, are usually having great sense of low self-esteem, insecurities of all kinds and self-hatred. Ideology helps to turn it into condescension, sense of supremacy and extremely narrowed mind.
The best thing you can do is listen to this man, over and again. His vocabulary is something else. Every time I hear him another time, I am given a new layer of thought. The most misunderstood orator of our times, if only they could take a moment to listen to his words. He is our generation’s pride and boasting about him is only a natural thing to do. Thank you JP, you’ve opened millions of hearts to peace.
The individual conducting this interview seems to think follow-up questions are to be used to interupt your subject and attempt to suggest you have trapped them, as opposed to eludicate or expand upon a point already made. Quite poor form all in all and impolite to the other person.
A lot of people who interview JP just want to hamfist their own ideas and interrupt him. It's good that he has a good reply to stun them with every now and then
Holy hell. Where do they find these women. Like push push push for an answer. The halfway they cut him off and switch topics once they see won’t get him to say what they want. He is a patience guru. Love this guy.
@@totalchaos290 It is not about the average, it is all about the standard deviation. Men have a larger standard deviation in many traits. Even if the average is the same, a higher standard deviation means that men will be grossly overrepresented three standard deviations out on both sides of the distribution. This is probably the reason why most Nobel Prize winners in natural sciences are men or out of all self made billionaires only a handful are women.
The problem I see with many people interviewing JP is that they are all baiting him and hoping he says something wrong. His wisdom and approach just leave them in the mud.
For all those who think anne was trying to trap him, she was not. She was very very professional and she asked him all the questions the radical left want to trap him with BUT she gave him ample opportunity to defend himself. This never happens in his debates. You get guys like Michael Erik Dyson having to interrupt and straw man him the entire time. She did very well in interviewing him and she asked the questions that we want to hear him defend. He aced the test and she made it difficult. But she respected his answers. Well done and I would love to see her interview more people rather than say Don Lemon or anyone from the BBC.
I was in a dark place in my life. My life was a mess. As much as I tried, I couldn't get out of bed, I was in great depression in my life. Watching Jordan Peterson's online lectures, I started little by little. After two years, little by little, I managed to have personal responsibility, to have a vision for my future. You really helped me a lot. Thank you very much Mr. Peterson.
I've not much time for Peterson but this is one of the few threads on this video that doesn't make my scrotum unwrinkle itself in shock at what I read.
I am on the start of this path hopefully just quit self medicating with weed and benzos and going to hopefully get my future straight. But who knows what the future holds
Living legend, a truly masterful orator. I'm also pleased with the "women are not a minority" rebuttal. As a black man i'm sick of these autocrat sugar spun white women using my people and other less "empowered" demographics to prop up their narrative. Don't use me as a flail to beat white men over the head, your maniacal feminist delusions can't detract from the millennium of playing Rapunzel. White men have coddled and infantilised you at their own expenses. There are women worldwide who genuinely face tumultuous circumstances. Your plight is sucking some director off for a two million dollar acting gig. Not comparable, just narcissism.😕
Ryan Lewis As a brown man, i agree and dont see myself as a minorty. Hell i dont even like bring out my race because its irrelevent but for thoae who only see the world as groups of races they would asaume im a white southerner with missing teeth otherwise. Which ironically is racist on their part but we are talking about leftists.
Ryan Lewis While I get the fact that it's good to see the word 'minority' not being used outside of the actual proper definition, please be sure not to dive into identity politics in pointing that out. Your point would have been just as valid had you not been a black man yourself. You're an individual first and foremost, and not defined by the color of your skin or the fact you happen to be part of a minority group. You're just like the rest of us, and deserve all respect, like the rest of us.
Jason Carto completely understandable to feel te urge to do that. But by playing the idenitity politics card you're actively stimulating polarization. Again, I get where you're coming from, but the only way to combat identity politics or it's even more evil twin racism, is to not make that differentiation yourself. Your arguments should validate themselves.
Then I dont recommend you watch the Cathy Newman interview, the Q&A with the australian politician or the debate with that NZ Professor of gender studies (whose face is btw extremely annoying).
This woman wrote an article in the evening standard titled 'The unvaccinated have become a lethal liability we can ill afford' dec 14th. Just thought you might want to know this to reinforce what a intolerable and toxic person she is. Not very compromising and agreeable at all.
@@ZupaTr00pa Yea I agree - it was no more or less aggressive than any debate I've seen, was done relatively respectfully even though they clearly disagree with each other on some stuff. Comparing this to the Cathy Newman thing is actually like night and day, THAT was hard to watch. This was more like...playing a game with debating strategies. It was a conversation that wasn't rife with talking over eachother/ad hominems/putting words into eachothers' mouths over and over
I am an educated woman with some feminist ideals . I used to interview people on the radio. I thought she did a horrible and slanted intreview that did not listen to him or let him speak. Listen to him!! He is nuanced, which IS IMPORTANT. I have never heard this man before, but I will go and listen to more of him so I can finally HEAR his point of view without her trying to shove her point of view on him.
Every interview he's had where resentful women have tried to ambush him have gone like this one. It's also absurd for interviewers like this one to say "you seem angry" after all these continual attempts to derail his career, smear him. Like all the leftist, feminist takes when Brett Kavanaugh was accused of rape, how his anger showed that he was guilty and evil. No. He was angry because the attacks and narratives slanted against him were absurd and callous.
I have seldomly watched an interview that made me this angry. Mostly because she was not really engaging in a conversation but was just only aiming at trying to get dr. Peterson to say something reprehensible. The amount of patience and calmness that this man has is an example to everyone. I hope Anne can find the ability to listen a bit more to her guests instead of trying to score points all the time.
Like when she physically pushes herself back into her seat after she thinks she has him, just to be reeled back in by his logic in cutting the net from around him.
i think it was one of the best interviewer for peterson. she did her job as an interviewer, pushing him to to elaborate. Much more subtle and sophisticated interview than most. She has her agenda, of course, who is perfectly objective? No one.
@@benledolmen this is the important thing. an interviewer is there to get to the root of what the interviewee is talking about, she did this greatly. this isnt in the same line as the channel 4 interview in which it was all combative to the point that no one learened anything. the interviewer obviously dissagreed but she was willing to agree where she had to but also challange where petterson wasnt clear on his point to make sure the viewer understood where he was coming from. great interview all in all.
Jordan B Peterson is on the payroll of Orban the Neonazi Terrorist leader organizer of the Magyar Gárda Neo-Nazi paramilitary group 2007-2010 and since dictator of Hungary As the guest of Führer Orban in the Führer Castle of Buda, Jordan B. Peterson : "my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel against your leader! What your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture
Jordan B. Peterson : "my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel. What your leader is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture."
I am a woman, and I respect Jordan Petersons' educated opinions and knowledge. I am having difficulties with the attitudes of women these days to the point I don't like them. Female interviewers of Dr. Petersen appear to just want to win and prove him wrong. Silly women , I understand what he says and feel his way of looking at life, men and women, to be something that is missing in our modern belief systems. The women usually end up embarrassing themselves.
She is senior editor for the Economist for gods sake, do they not monetize? And since they do, obviously, does their money only go to virginally pure neutral ventures?
And this is why I uncategorically use adblocks. I don't want to give anyone any revenue that I don't feel they deserved. I've benefited from Peterson's work and I've consequently bought 2 copies of his book.
If he is so smart why did he back out of the Richard Wolff debate on Marxism, even going so far as to pretend not to know who Professor Wolff was? "There was this professor... Richard Wolff, I believe? He responded to my comments on Marxism..." LMFAO
@@WedgeUhMite I mean, his quote is technically correct he just clipped that piece of it and posted it way out of context. I shouldn't be surprised at the internet at this point though 😂
Wow she got absolutely schooled. Very intelligent interviewer but her loaded questions, disparaging remarks, and scoffs got her a profoundly well balanced and thoughtful response that she seemed to be bemused by. I wish her all the best and hope she can release some of her ideological resentment.
As I often do, I found the interview irritating because the width and depth of Jordan's responses were as always not being allowed to fully form therefore no question was fully answered before the next was presented. I am convinced he is very often frustrated by the interviewer's inability or lack of desire to grasp the logical discourse he presents.
Peterson suffers foolishness but he expects it and sees it coming. Part of the yoke he has taken on. No dedicated scholar gets to land in a perfectly logically coherent world. Chomsky answers personal emails to ordinary people every day, this is the burden of those who care.
She did very well. It is the job of an interviewer to be the medium between the interviewee and the audience. The interviewer needs to package what is said. To create some order. Jordan is therfor the most difficult man to interview because what he says is complex and there is a lot of it. In this case, it is not inability or unwillingness, or, like in cathy newman's case: maliciousness.
Very well observed.Time is always limited in these interviews but McElvoy listens....not always the case in the prepared interview.....and is very bright which makes the back and fore good at bringing out in Peterson difficult concepts.
She doesn’t even let the man complete most of his responses. She wasn’t there to find out his views at all, it was more so to “catch” him in something that would connect her negative views of him as truth. She’s sickening
Agreed, she was fishing and at the end, all she got was a big load of nothing. People like her is not interested in gaining knowledge. She's just trying to be the white knight of effenism and failing miserably. She however outed herself as an effenist ideologues and nothing more.
I absolutely adore Jordan Peterson and I'm a woman. ❤👏👏👏👏 I'd LOVE to have a conversation with him, especially about how amazing it is being a housewife and mother. How it's empowering for me and how much my family depends on me and what a benefit my role has been on my child and husband. I think we have a pretty beautiful and healthy life, tbh. I'm very happy about what I've accomplished even though our society doesn't see it as such. We have treasures money can't buy.
sigh , here we go again "i'm a woman" as if your vagina gave you personal insight on something....i'm so sick of hearing "and i am a woman!" as if being one is so special its amazing you actually listened at all? huh?!
@Patrick J Mims That's just an expression of witnessing unbelievable intelligence, at least to his mind, if not for everyone. Although, I think too, that he's got very good categorizing ability on whatever questions they ask him, and he deals with them, subdivided which I think is a sign of good understanding in that subject and general intelligence to categorize them at all. To what extent, he does this, since better than average people can also do it, he does it almost all the time; which is a very well-practiced, methodical and obtains the end goal, without too much obstacles in the path of infusion of two or more separated ideas, under the same question. Also, his verbal intelligence is higher than you see in many people in our daily lives, which is not something to scoff at, and also indicates at his intelligence under one class.
'Western culture, that's a great idea.' Mahatma Gandi. Noooo maan. This guy is a citizen of the world, respects and consults spiritual traditions witch 'western culture' does not. Yet
"im not interviewing the clinical literature, im interviewing you" thats perhaps the best example of the lack of intelligence and moral standards in the interviewer's questions. If you dont want an informed accurate and educated answer, then why are you asking the question?
I love civil discourse but I wonder what she thought of the interview after viewing herself. It’s not so much about him winning or losing, but he had an articulate, well-thought response to every topic she raised. Appreciate the calmness he exhibited throughout. It kept the focus on the discussion/topics.
Isn't it a shame you feel you have to point out being a girl - hopefully what most will take away from it, is that you're a thoroughly decent one. All the best in 2020 xx
Guessing the rhetoric question and all the rhetoric answers are all coming from guys who consider themselves to be" average" men. Average misogynists, yeah :-)
It's so hard to watch an interview when the interviewer has no intention to actually hear and ponder the responses she receives, but rather to find another point from which to attack her interviewee. So tiring!
I don't think thats the issue, I think what's mostly happening is she has so many pages of questions she has to get to and she has to try and understand his answers and challenge him on the things he says... you can see her nod her head in agreeing with him throughout the interview so I think she agrees with a lot of the things he says.
@@karn33333 I think she doesn't understand a quarter of what is being said by Peterson, i dont think that she agree with what he say's at all it's just a manner she has when she doesn't understand and when she just want to pass to another subject. It' another exemple of a leftist leaning interviewer who try to ''trap'' the interviewee so she cant have some ''power'' over it, and be recognise as the person who dismantle Peterson. A good interview let the place to the interviewee to express his vision … a debate is where you ''challenge'' idea … but nowaday no one give a care about the meaning of thing's, that's why seeking of truth is now something that is under attack, we see it with how these interview are conducted !!!
I actually thought this interviewer was doing a fantastic job! There was an obvious bias, but she poked and prodded as she needed to. Jordan Peterson calm and collected manner helped make this a very interesting interview
Well he was wrong on the trans issue. He rallied support for freedom of speech... everyone got on board, but in that same action he treated the trans community like a stubborn beurocrat placing procedural correctness before people needs. So I get the impression he probably have some flawed logic to his ideas on gender too
@@paulesposito7055 he did not treat the trans community like a "stubborn beurocrat", he outlined that under no circumstances would he let the government dictate what he is required to say. It was pretty clear. He has said countless times that he supports them and their decision but he doesnt agree with the channels that they went about getting what they wanted.
Absolutely anhinatlsted. She tried to disms tled his arguments with passive aggressive jibes and switching topics. Solid performance for JP and why we love him. The antidote we all need. The journalist is a mouth piece drone for the mainstream.
@@AnabolicFarmer She set the standard for obnoxious interviewer and thought she won the argument and went to extraordinary measures to make him look bad. 🤷♂️😊🤔🐀
i dont get why people think this. she is trying to conduct an interesting interview and how is she doing that? by challenging his ideas. i think you guys overestimate the adversarial position you believe the interviewer is trying to take. if she asked all fluff questions, how interesting would the interview be? the top rated comments for jordan peterson always seem to criticize female interviewers for their "lack of intellect" or "bad motives" which brings credence to the people who criticize jordan peterson. i dont think i have an issue with peterson, but i do have an issue with the conclusions a lot of his fans come to as a result of listening to peterson.
@@davemanning4005 so you have watched enough of these interviews, i would assume you see the same attitude by the same type towards him, now what don't you get?
@@davemanning4005 Every time he corners she directs the topic to where she wants it to go. Sorry but if you literally can’t let your client speak then you have not only failed at being an interviewer, you have also failed as a decent human being.
When Jordan talks her eyes just glaze over thinking about what she’s going to say next. Why don’t these people try LISTENING rather than trying to score points. It makes them look really bad and they don’t even realise.
That's exactly what I noticed too! It's like cathy newman all over again. She's trying on purpose to take every statement in the wrong way and it's so frustrating after the first 5 minutes. "Ducks have feathers" "So you don't think there's ever been a duck with no feathers ever because you hate ducks and you're evil?!" "...."
I think some of it might be her job, and agenda, but I hope you give her the time of day, because she's worth something to somebody. Everything she says and thinks no doubt she's doing with the truest of intentions. It's just confusion. And that's why we have Jordan Peterson.
@@casualamer8543 Yes, but the Left has a way of twisting what is inherently obvious to people. I think we've been "gaslighted" by them for far too long.
They might have had little time, and wanting to cover as much as possible. I think that’s a wrong way to go though, would have preferred fewer topics and more detailed. This is too rushed
I think it’s more a matter of shitty format and time constraints. She has all these topics the producers probably want her to hit. Just look at those papers. But yeah, it was by far the most annoying aspect of the interview.
Whenever she realized she couldn't get anything out of him in one subject, she'd instantly jump to the next. And then people will defend her saying "well, she had time constraints". How convenient
I appreciate that she asked tough questions! You guys shouldn’t be angry at the interviewer. This is the type of content we need and she was gracious and vulnerable enough to take on the Behemoth that is Jordan Peterson.
There's nothing wrong with tough questions. If every question were soft, then what's the point. The problem I had with this interviewer, and several others who've interviewed Dr. Peterson, is that as soon as she realised he running circles around her, she interrupted and moved on to some other topic.
I wish these women would stop saying that only men follow Dr. Peterson's work.I am a forty-seven year old grandmother. I do not agree with him 100% of the time but I definitely support his work. And shame on this woman for trying to make him feel guilty for accepting patronage for his work. People like her are the reason that most creators are poor.
Fifty nine year old grandmother. Drove four hours to Philadelphia to hear him speak. I also invited my oldest daughter, left leaning, socisl worker, working on continuing her education. Great talk worth very moment. She also agreed with some points he spoke of.
JBP looks sad and tired of casting pearls before swine. I think he learned something from that Munk debate and it wasn't good. Like maybe this isnt as productive as he thought. These people are possessed by their ideas. He could probably smell it off this woman just by some neurotic mannerism early on. Nonetheless he carries on. Putting his best foot forward every time. Truly living what he preaches. Absolutely admirable.
SkepticalMillenial she's the stereotypical middle class middle aged lisping female I've met so many times in my life. They're all the same. It's uncanny.
He knows he's not going to change her mind (or Dyson's mind during the Munk debate). He does it for us the viewers. If it wasn't going on youtube theres no way JP would suffer these people like he does
Eric the Viking when men get the best results from divorce courts, when employers high the best person for the job instead of filling quotas, when one is not called sexist, homophobic, transphobic, racist nazi just because you are a white male that has not said anything!!!!
they won't for a long time i think. I kind of foresee a roller coaster type joyride that will eventually find its way to a middle ground between the two sides. In the meantime though we will have to suffer through the ridiculous lashing out of spoiled snowflakes, and after that a major backlash against them by fed up men and women who will not bent to the crap anymore.
It truly feels like she is so convinced of her own truth, that whenever she hears something that logically shows her ideas to be untrue, she just goes blank and just doesn't allow it to integrate into her believes and moves on to the next subject still wondering slightly what just happened a few moments ago and why it didn't go as she imagined. Like when she asks "there's literature on gossip and innuendo?" Like she has no idea that is actually (like peterson says) "a well documented field". And you'd expect that after finding that out you'd reconsider what you said before that moment when you still thought he was just making this stuff up. But none of that. She just plows through without the slightest hint of actually having processed any of the answers she gets. It is an hour long of "I am right and I don't quite understand why my quest says different things than I expected but lets go on regardless"
I was going to write that I was at @15:00 so far and she was doing fine, asking good, non-debaters questions that brought out some real knowledge. By @30:00 ... not so much. She's in a machine gun fight against a guy in an A-10 not knowing her gun is a toy.
Omg I'm almost done, but the pattern of load a question get shot down with actual arguments, try and steer the argument to the feminist argument keep getting shot down. Bout time to quickly change the subject!
bcstractor he actually doesn’t the says to live as though there is one. You must not really listen to what he’s said if you didn’t know that 🤔 instead of trying to insult make sure you at least have your facts straight.
“Male activity is viewed with far more skepticism than is warranted at the moment. That is certainly a problem.” This man never fails to put things into words that I could have never imagined. I struggle with these ideas and he speaks to them so eloquently, receiving his insight is always interesting.
Because the powers that be want us submissive and passive, they don't want people willing to stand up for themselves cause it makes it easier to walk over us
interviewer : What is the formula for calculating pi? JBP: π = Circumference/ Diameter. interviewer: I have no idea how one could possibly conclude that. JBP: it's the geometry - Archimedes of Syracuse did this interviewer: it depend on your definition of Archimedes of Syracuse .
What you need to realise about passive aggressive people is that your anger/frustration gives them pleasure, don't let them see that they're getting to you and that will screw with them more than anything
We are liking this because of JBP, just to make it clear.
You're right!
Notice how the word intelligence is hovering over Jordan. Lovl
JBP is primarily full of shit... or we can call it metaphorical substrate if that sounds better...
Absolutely! She is close to ridiculous.
@@Tahoza Care to explain why? Any evidence to counter his points?
Jordan: This is not my opinion. These are just the facts.
Interviewer: I don't want to hear facts. I want to hear your opinion so that I can accuse you of having a terrible opinion.
Bang on!
Nailed it
He should have anwered: "I don't have opinions on facts; opinions should be relegated to questions like 'which is your favorite flavor of ice-cream?'"
Yep! 💯. Her intentions are as bad as they get.
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The most frustrating thing about these types of interviews is that the interviewer has no genuine interest in understanding JBP and his views. That’s why I prefer people like Joe Rogan or Dave Rubin who have a genuine curiosity about the people they interview.
I Agugree.... (Rubin)
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Yeah, she would do better after a few DMT or psilocybin experiences. Open her mind a bit.
I feel you dude but personally I'm unsure about Joe Rogan from what I've seen. I’ve noticed multiple instances of him not even trying to understand where his guests are coming from. He also didn’t seem to understand that people aren’t, on the spot, always able to say things in the exact spirit of what they mean. That kind of lack of understanding seems, to me, to be the temperament of someone who’s far more dismissive than they are curious. I’ve heard from people that he’s improved over time though so maybe I’ve just coincidentally seen his bad talks amongst an ocean of good ones, I'm open to that.
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Genuine interests in that Canadian hack!? Peterson is a no one who is out there to make some buck of out gullible impressionable males. And he is succeeding in that money making enterprise.
Nkanyezi Masondo yes. Truly a useless interviewer as she is only irritated and didn't understand half of what he was saying.
In every single one of these podcasts, they always seem to want to "get" him on some point, yet they just give up and move on to the next question. This man is truly wonderful. 👏🏽
Jordan B. Peterson :
"my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel.
What your leader is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture."
yeah people give up because its nearly impossible to get through a thick wall of words without meaning. thats the only thing this moron is good at. speaking convoluded and fooling you people
It's a common tactic by "journalists" fishing for soundbites. She also tries to load his lips several times with "what you're saying is....", and "so you believe ...". They're not used to dealing with someone of Jordan's caliber pushing back and they end up look amateurish. His highlight reel is right up there with the other Jordan I like.
Psychologically he knows he has won the argument when she moves on or changes the topic. Typical women.
@@furerorban1488 that's legitimately the flimsiest, most pathetic excuse i've ever heard to justify an authoritarian who's actively indoctrinating children and shitting on the weakest, most disenfranchized minorities in his country. Absolutely disgraceful and gross
Wow this really hard to listen to, it's pretty obvious that she is attempting to trap him into some clickbait statement to add to her bias cause. I'm amazed at the temperament and patience of this man.
I think she did a good job of research, and had decent questions. The issue is her demeanor when she gets knocked off topic was slightly antagonistic and came from her political bias.
He is truly cool. When I was a boy I looked up to guys who had the confidence to walk up to girls in the street, as a man I look up to men who can engage them, challenge them, and make them laugh with intelligence, and charisma. Russell Brand and JP exemplify "cool" to me.
Honest Outlaw Reviews “patience”
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Russell Brand isn't the sharpest but he is definitely cool.
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Not necessarily politically but he is very witty and socially commanding
She exemplifies female aggression as she's tries to argue against it.
On point
Do you recall the part where she's insinuating that Peterson is being a misogynistic asshole when he says that regarding aggression, women tend to lean towards verbal / gossip / character assassination (or was it "career assassination" or something like that?) as compared to men tending to lean towards physical aggression (at least comparatively)?
Because it's so... ironic, let's say, that as she was insinuating that, she was exhibiting so much of precisely what Peterson was referring to immediately prior.
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 The highlight segment 46:05 'Out of control women bullies will destroy reputations, which is the dominant female method of aggression. I studied this 15 years. I'm an expert.'
@C Atanic Sorry you can't read or understand. I quoted Dr. Peterson. You got angry and lied. He studied antisocial disorder for 15 yrs. Telling the truth is love. Leftists telling you lies is hate.
@C Atanic You are an empty troll bot channel. They are often paid by Soros organizations to tell lies and destroy good reputations.
If Peterson started a masterclass in having patience with obnoxious people, I would pay anything to join that.
Just be ready to not be able to have discourse with someone that already made their mind up on unfounded opinion.
The trick is to realize and accept a fundamental truth no matter how revolting or unfair:
Good people have to play by different rules than bad people. Same rules don't apply to everybody. Evil people will taunt, mock, bully, provoke and all manner of immoral and uncivil behavior, in the attempt to get you to their level, where they can drag you through the mud. NOBODY will condemn them for that behavior, but will crucify you if you accept the challenge. They want to change the subject, no matter the debate, to how inappropriate YOU are, because they don't posses the truth or the facts and they know it. DONT LET THEM! DONT BE TEMPTED TO RETALIATE. No one will care who started it, and they will blame you, ALWAYS. It's hard, but if you keep your cool and stick to the subject, it actually becomes a lot more satisfying and productive, not only because you win the argument, but because this is what pains them the most. They are getting cancer while watching you destroy their rhetoric with facts, while their impotent attacks glance off you like toy arrows off tanks.
@@oldscorp That was really profound. Thanks. Is there any more literature on this idea?
@@PistolPete1980 Lol, i don't know! Let me know if YOU find any.
@@oldscorp unfortunatley the sort of ppl you are challenging with logic comes in waves! so you can win against a wave or two but when something illogical comes and a cryout is made with only emotional perspective, the loss will be closer and closer! at the end of the day you will just have a war against yourself!
Every interview I watch with Jordan he ends up explaining the interviewers argument better than they do themselves
Seriously.
I believe that's called the Socratic method.
It's important to not target a person. Rather the ideas their putting forth. Therefore it's positively critical to restate the idea to insure that one is truly arguing the idea. Jordan Peterson has long argued he will build up an opposing idea as strong as he can to pay it respect before taking it on. In this way no one can say he didn't give the devil his due.
To the OP: this is SUCH an important point you’re making.
@@Hongkongnyc jp uses objective sounding language when most of the time he's expressing an opinion. The fact that none of you seem to understand that speaks for itself 🤩
Can we officially canonize JBP as the internet’s “Patron Saint of Heavenly Patience”??? He deserves it after this one.
It's not just this interview, seems to be loads of media outlets were they send him up against a woman who does not want to listen and then fails to make basic assumptions that would be common place in normal conversation, like thinking that serial harassers are vomit inducing. To be fair though that last point mainly connects to that fact that these women are expecting literal Hitler to come to the interview, not the most mild mannered Canadian dad of the internet.
JBP: "Clean your room"
Internet: *Sigh* "Fine....."
Scott Ferguson True. Despite not really caring for Russell Brand, he gave EXACTLY what a proper interview consists of; questions that allow the person to dissect and explain what they mean, ask for elaborations, ACTUALLY LISTENING to the elaborations, approach the interview as if the person has something to teach you, don’t project, offer healthy criticism, play devil’s advocate when needed, etc.. She seems to be disagreeing just for the sake of disagreement without offering anything concrete to combat JP’s citations of well-established studies. As an interview, it sucks. But for the 4,000 “JP Destroys....” videos/week, it’s another goldmine.
Marino Mazzei Exactly! I was surprise by Russel actually he did a great job, and I think it mainly comes down to the difference between a discussion of ideas versus what we got here, point scoring.
The discussion with Matt Dilahunty was also a really good one, and I think he actually challenged Peterson's worldview meaningfully and they both offered good justifications for their ideas. They demonstrated different ways to view the universe and truth, while being very entertaining as well.
I actually used to respect her and think she was better than the SJW snowflakes also writing in the London Evening Standard. She comes over very poorly here, as if trying to ape Cathy Newman - but not being able to summon the same level of malevolence.
Can we just acknowledge that Jordan Peterson is drawing stars and circles in his notebook all while destroying this rude interviewer
using the word "destroying" towards other person really makes me think that you didnt pay any attention to the subject. Exactly that kind of terms were discussed, but it clearly didnt sink in. Or maybe you just took a nap mid-conversation
@@joananeto9607 sure the word destroying may not be entirely appropriate, how about dismantling, he dismantled every question he was thrown because he understands when someone is being intellectually honest and when they are trying to trap him in a corner with a soundbyte.
@@joananeto9607 He didn't destroy her, but he disproved her weak thinking upon the topics.
@@joananeto9607 Right! If you ask Fugazi to summarize the talk in a few words he couldn't even do that. He just thinks the woman lost just because she was non-assertive and allowed Peterson to talk over her.
@@jamberry8026 No. Peterson simply used facts that did not care about her feelings.
She's not actively listening, she's just thinking what she's going to say next to catch him out
She's listening to respond instead of listening to learn
Yeah, I thought that same thing
Maybe even listening for that gotcha moment..but it never came.
So? she's a woman! 🤷
@@cato7778 hopefully you’re being sarcastic, but as a bisexual woman, it is a definitely predominantly a woman thing 🥴🥴
I am I my sixties and writing a parenting book. This man has caused me to rethink much of my work! I’m grateful! 💚
Why are you writing a parenting book if you have to rethink much of your work? Maybe you are a student and not a teacher.
@@generalfusweden3797everyone Is a forever student of life, we all should strive to evolve our opinions based on relevant new data..she is humble and smart enough to admit that some of her opinions were changed, we all need to open to changing our mind and not letting our beliefs/views stagnate. New thoughts and tools are how we evolve.
We all were students, are students and will be students?@@generalfusweden3797And many great literary works were done by students and not by the masters.
Very few people would admit that, and this makes your work already very interesting to me
@@generalfusweden3797So, you decided at some point in your life, that you know everything there is to know and to stop learning? It must be wonderful to be as enlightened and all-knowing as you are!
Every time she can tell she’s outmatched she interrupts and changes the subject. He’s so gracious that he lets her do it Every. Single. Time. Kudos to him I couldn’t manage it.
I think that's the one thing he did wrong in the interview honestly. He needed to stay calm just as he was and drive some points deeper. Staying with his completely relaxed manner, he just needed to say "before we move on from _ _ _ _, I'd like to elucidate it further." That way Jordan could demonstrate the absolute invalidity of her points. I know for most non-lunatics what Peterson said was enough, but I'm talking about the ones that are on the fence of lunacy lolllll.
@@markshanahan8147 yeah I feel the same way. By letting her change the subject he doesn’t really get to show how wrong she is, and she definitely won’t change her mind about those points unless he makes her look foolish.
Hes a master class in eloquence and patience
I'm far more impressed about that he is never in need to call it out.
He's more focused in embarassing her, by raising the quality of the conversation immediately up, when he starts to talk. Contrasting her argumentative inferiority.
it's weird to see someone so openly ignorant, and who is totally convinced of their being some value in her arrogance. She clearly hasn't understood what it is to appreciate someone who can so easily destroy their opponent like peterson does. She should be thanking him for destroying her. Such an ugly woman in so many ways
I just cant believe how he doesnt lose his cool during these interviews. Its unbelievable
He is a smart man. Kill them with kindness and facts.
@@scringe1 took the words right out of my mouth
He is probably redirecting his frustration with her ignorance. Notice how he is doodling on the paper whenever she's squawking nonsense.
he does though, he becames bitter, but i understand him
Oh don't be so naive. He's there because he wants to sell books. They both know that - she's working for a company that is benefiting from the click revenue. It isn't a debate to search for universal truths. It's a financial transaction.
Jordan Peterson is drawing while debating in this interview. The amount of respect I have for this man is through the roof
He's probably drawing a horrible accurate portrait of this woman. This woman is disturbingly disgusting
through the roof and off the charts
Haha, I just noticed that. JBP is an amazing man beyond any description that I have the capacity to write. Thank you so much for your dedication and honesty that is so evident to anyone watching.
The more complex one's mind, the more distractions it seeks while not being fully engaged. Fidgeting, drawing, playing with things, tapping fingers and a general restlessness are good signs of that.
Doodling
Her complete lack of humility and respect while interviewing someone who is so clearly superior to her is what (to me) is so shocking about this interview. Her behavior (trying to catch him and then casually changing the subject when she has obviously failed) was abhorrent. It’s also fascinating to me that so many people try to bring this guy down. My life has completely changed for the better as a direct result of him.
the interviewer has a beautiful voice though
ill give her that
Cmon it wasn't that bad. She's allowed to ask questions and put him to the test
@@thebigstick5540 Body language, bro.
Literally no idea why these people try to end their careers talking to this man.
Our good friends Dunning and Kruger might be able to explain.
These journalists believe that they are smarter than JP, and if they can discredit him, they will be famous among other journalists...
They never seem to realize how wrong their beliefs are in their ability to out smart someone so much more intelligent and educated than the journalists are.
" I'm gonna end this wahmen's whole career".
Pride.
rofl
It's so hilarious how she changes the subject every time she starts feeling cornered by her own ignorance xD
No joke, talk about moving the goalposts. Every single time he starts to explain himself or his position, she butts in and redirects the conversation where SHE WANTS IT TO GO. What a crap interviewer she is.
Agree. Some of these interviewers just want to challenge him rather than an intelligent discussion..
She started off so well. She was asking really good questions and didn't show any bias. But then...
Why in the world would you say that.....
That's what 30 years of psychological data says.
Ohh, uhhh let's move on
Lol
She has good headphones taste tho
This woman does a good job at magnifying Jordan's superior intellect. And illustrating how Jordan has the temper of a saint.
Love this comment. I wrote a whole paragraph ranting and raving by how much this woman frustrated me. I am decided not to post, and will aspire to manage my temper like Jordan.
@@sarahroberts8724 He just perplexes these people doesn't he? These intelligent career women who think they've got it all worked out and think that because he appeals to incels etc that must mean Jordan is against women. He doesn't get angry; that's just one of the wiley ways we antagonise those we want to antagonise. He just can't contain his frustration at their relentless obtuseness.
@@hansiesma16 He absolutely does. I'm amazed they think that they can get the better of him with such pernicious tactics. It's sad they miss the opportunity to learn something!
@Suicide Booth Spot on!
He is talking to a woman who is literally determined to avoid the truth
I met JP last month in Cincinnati (after an entire year of waiting). I've never been happier in my life. As soon as it was my turn to get a picture with him for the "meet and greet", anxiety hit me hard. It's so weird meeting someone you admire. I've listened to every one of his debates, speeches, and audio books, and he's genuinely changed my life. Anyways, it was my turn to walk up to him for a picture and I got major butterflies. I looked at him and choked up a little. I said "my heart is pounding so hard. You are my personal hero Dr. Peterson."
He smiled, looked into my eyes, and asked what my name was. I told him and he shook my hand and said "It's a pleasure to meet you, Peter."
His speech that night was incredible, insightful, and downright beautiful. The man radiates warmth, kindness, and compassion. I'm so glad I got a chance to meet the person I admire most in this world. He genuinely makes me want to become my best self.
JBPeterson: "My message to the Hungarians
Do not rebel against your PM
Your leader is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the 1000 years old Hungarian empire
I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your PM. Another name for Jesus is Viktor"
i don't have any clue what all that drivel was. who's victor? what PM Huh? who ? who cares? ...what "message?" nothing you said made ANY sense at all@@furerorban1488
you are a very scary individual. there's nothing of foundation in your "empire" ....and your secret about JEBUS doesn't really impress me@@furerorban1488
Dork
You sound like the male version of a bieberfan lmao
Her face is that of a person not listening but waiting
Spot on.
The countless ironies are embarassing. She is so dismissive and condescending and just cuts him off when he's making a cogent point LOL
my ex wife had resting not listening but waiting face like 24/7
hahaha
Paradoximize the simplicity of your comment really captures my main issue with the host of this podcast. Well said.
Drops loaded question.
Doesn't hear desired answer.
Drops more loaded questions with a hint of character attack.
Gets smacked with perfect image destroying answer delivered while doodling.
*INTERRUPTS* to drop more loaded questions with a hint of character attack.
GIVE ME A ONE WORD ANSWER SO I CAN ATTACK YOU!!!!!! 👾
Math Don wow
Math Don LMFAO!
Math Don das big facts...after the third or fourth time I had to check comments 🤦🏿♂️
7 reasons why I already admire Jordan Peterson and I just discovered him last week
Jordan Peterson makes being smart attractive!!
1.A good teacher
Jordan Peterson is very intelligent ,he has the ability to take complex subjects and turn them into digestible, easily understandable information not to mention that he uses regular stories,the Bible and movies and different religions as examples
2.A great orator (Articulate/Assertive)
He is very articulate , a great story teller in deed! one can listen to him for hours , I don't remember the last time I was excited to listen/watch an interview.
He is very assertive, he knows how to get his point across and he alligns his words so well that if you would cut off the interviewer part his answers perfectly follow up ... just as if it was a speech .
3.Great composure/patience
Anyone in their right mind would attack the interviewer not Jordan Peterson, I think he has a perfect mind that's how he can stand her, keep calm, even think about his answers ,and to some questions that I thought were pure mischaracterisation and that he shoud decline to answer ... nonetheless he answered ... so much respect to you Mr Peterson !
4.His compassion
his compassion and ability to show empathy and emotions when necessary.
He cares about the individual ,his/her progress and that's how you know if he met you he would value you, #you matter # you are important# you don't have to come as a group to get my attention# I can see you
True, we may have similar experiences but our copying mechanisms are different ,our challenges are different
So it's important to be seen as an individual, to be encouraged to improve ,that's how one can feel valuable and since we are social beings we tend to share, we spread both negativity and positivity so that's how you start a cycle of goodness, hardwork, selfrespect....and more
Basically teach me how to catch a fish and I'll do it myself next time.
Not deliver fishes to me so I can be codependent and lose self respect because I am incapable of taking care of myself and I can't live without you.
And by the way a strong group is usually comprised of strong individuals, a good team is usually comprised of good players there's no other way around it.
One cannot aspire to the well being of the group while neglecting the individual.
5.His confidence/courage
Jordan Peterson is so confident that he is not afraid to say the truth he stands for what he believes in ,he defends his ideas regardless the discomfort it may cause and that's very courageous
6.His humility
Not only does he give examples about his own shortcomings but something else that's very fascinating about him is that regardless everything he knows that the majority if not all of his listeners or even average people don't know he has the humility of saying something most of us are ashamed of saying which is I don't know..
7.His good looks
I think I might be wrong that Jordan Peterson is the kind of handsome man who probably doesn't have a clue he is or who probably is even surprised people mention it but I'm glad to say I'm not the only non-feminist woman who says that ,He is very handsome indeed! and his calmness just takes it to another level
So I would say Jordan Peterson is a perfect & imperfect man , listening to him definitely teaches me alot , I am becoming smart overnight!
So thank you!
my. words.
@David Chicote obviously
🖤
@Umwali Sharon how about we invite JP in Kigali to talk to our fellow Youth 😍😍
I agree with everything :)
Among the 12 rules for life - IF a cat comes up to on the street, pat it.
I do that without have read this book. It's a wonderful feeling, actually. A friendly soul, small and vulterable, comes up and gives you affection, greets, implicitly trusts you etc. It's enough to make my heart melt.
One such cat came into my garage. She was emaciated, with long matted gray fur, but with big and alert eyes. I was leaving the garage and she walked with me. I went out by the side door, closed it, and then she stopped. She turned around and slunk into a hole in the siding. Each day after that, I put out a bowl of chicken, and later proper cat food. My little "ghost" came out to greet me every morning outside the garage, and ate her food. Then one morning she came out with three tiny little kittens, and presented them to me. After that, I took mom and her babies into my family. There she and her kittens lived out their lives. We have one of those kittens left. He is now almost 16 years old. It all started with a lost and desperate soul trusting me with her life, and it lead to so much joy. Follow the rule, and pat a strange cat if it comes up to you. If you are able, adopt it.
That's super sweet.
Very sweet and loving
out of all the awful comments i read, THIS one brought tears to my eyes. no agenda. no opinions...just a furry happy ending. thanx.
Jesus Christ can we get ONE interview with a woman who isn't insufferable and condescending?
Phil Shen there is a good one, search Jordan Peterson on ‘12 rules for life’
The channel is Marjin Poels
Phil Shen He did one with camele paglia (wrong spelling but is on jbp's channel) it was good.
But these are the ones in which he particularly shines in his answers. I don't really want to watch someone agree with him for an hour, I want to watch him methodically dismantle someone's entire rationale from a psychological frame of reference. THAT'S the good stuff.
Just to be clear, I don't mind confrontation and hard questions, and I think I saw that with the maajid Nawaz interview. Granted I haven't seen all interviews with Peterson and others, and yes, it is a generalization that all his interviews with women have been with shrews. Also I do think he has brilliant answers. But I wrote my comment more out of frustration that so far all the female hosts that I've seen interview him so far seem to come into the interview not to engage him, but rather it seems like they want to gotcha him or destroy him instead. Plenty of male hosts (cough, vice) have tried to do that too, but from my limited view, I've at least seen more male hosts try to give him a chance, less see from female hosts. It probably doesn't need saying, this is not a reflection on women being "b*tches" -- rather I think it's more of a reflection of the women (and men too, to be fair) who are in media and what kind of ideology they subscribe to.
Phil Shen To be fair I thought this was a good interview, she gave him space to explain his views. She asked intelligent Qs as very far as the postmodern left can be expected to pose.
I’ve seen almost as many Male interviewers being insufferably thick towards JP as female ones. I don’t think this woman qualified herself to be categorised in the same universe as e.g. Cathy Newman.
As a 34 year old professional, it was 2 years ago after having my 3rd child, I am now a stay at home mother. I stand behind Jordan Peterson. A title and a high figure pay does not match bringing up and being a maternal constant for my household. Less emotionally disregulated children and peace than a decade ago. Keep it up Mr. Peterson!!!
Get the book "Two income trap" by Elizabeth Warren ... a lot of families are now wading through 40/50 years of financial hell only to realise that they're kids are not in a good space.
Think a man can stay at home as much as a woman can (if that suits the couple) ... but the concept of dual income household as the norm for society is having / and is going to have lots of long term consequences
I agree and am so happy to read your comment. Enjoy that family- they grow up and leave so quickly, then there's time to pursue other interests.
Well as a society we are pushed in to believing that we need a certain amount of "stuff" to maintain a "normal" life or to give the appearance of success. The idea of success now is almost entirely material in the western world, it's no accident that people's individual happiness has gone down due to this desire to look materially wealthy.
I hope you extend that care and peace to your husband as well.
You discovered what being rich really means! It ain't cash!
“Yes, women can be bullies”-hands her a mirror.
Lmfaoooo Dr. Peterson had too much maturity for that but it would've been stellar.
lol
🤣🤣🤣
I can never understand the mindset of thinking there are no differences between men and women and at the same time saying women are innocent and men are evil.
My wife is a bully!
Dr. Peterson is probably the most misunderstood man walking earth. My initial analysis is that it must be exhausting to continually be on the defense; however, after some thought it might not be as strenuous because he doesn’t have to remember to play a character. He simply shows up as himself, and shares information he’s learned over decades of study. People don’t realize he RARELY EVER gives his personal opinion on anything (unless he’s persistently asked to share), his thoughts are based off scientific data and research. I’m always inspired after hearing him speak, God bless you Dr. Peterson!
pretty straight forward
This woman is infuriating. She interrupts him so much and changes subjects when she doesn't hear her desired answer to a charged question purposely posed for character defamation. This interview was both intriguing and disgraceful.
Well said!!
Its one of the wonderful characteristics of a fool. They expose themselves to the light and thus self destruct and free us all from their mindless, unproductive contributions. Don't worry - Jordan easily handles himself in these situations because of one simple fact: Critical thinking.
I was frustrated early on by Jordan's penchant for interrupting others--saying this as a Peterson fan--but she definitely went from fairly reasonable interlocutor to sleazy social tactician over the course of the interview, until she was absolutely greasy with railroading maneuvers and sidesteps to find a cross upon which he might be crucified.
@@davedoodles I dont find that he interrupts all that much.. he is a very good listener and I find that it's usually him that's interrupted.
Thank God Peterson is level headed. If that were me I'd want to revive the naval punishment of keelhauling her.
This woman sounded almost intelligent when she was reading the script at the beginning.
As soon as her opinions began to fall out of her mouth, that illusion was quickly dispelled.
Yep. She didn’t sound terribly biased at the immediate beginning but it wasn’t long before she couldn’t even read the script without her bias ooze out into how she delivered it.
She's dumb. Gives bad name to women. She is just not getting anything AND doesn't let HER GUEST finish most of his arguments, so people who DO get it can listen. Is she a paid host who is hired to as questions or a catty argumentative witch in a bar? And whenever she gets so cornered by her own dumbness she can't come up with arguments she just says okay let's come back to...". Oh yeah and a few times she actually yells over (or at) her guest. What a mess of an interview did this witch create! Fire this disrespectful, dumb and emotionally unstable woman.
jup just this..listened to it while cooking and I thought this isnt a bad interview..then I came back with my food and we have the sudden jump from the first half to "MEE TOO, MEE TOO"..gotta admit this old hag got me fuming several times with her stupid pseudo intelligent smirks at this point. Kudos to him
@@ElenaKomleva 💯
@Elena Komleva i wouldn’t say she’s a representative of women, but she’s a individual, and a rather crass one at that. But I agree with everything else you stated.
People have to stop trying to win an argument with Jordan and instead try to have a conversation with him. Interesting person with a lot to teach.
The problem is that the mainstream media are activists, not journalists. she wanted this interview, not to defeat Peterson, not to prove the far left justifiable. she wanted it so she could use him to stand atop her ivory tower and gain power from pushing him aside. not that she did, or could. she is here for woke points plain and simple.
So true. These journalists can't hope to match wits with people like JP. What makes them think they have a prayer?
if I may, I'll generalize your sentence:
SJWs have to stop trying to win an argument with people who actually know what they are talking about, and instead need to try and learn something from those people.
Yes!
The problem is that these journalists begin with conclusions about the people they interview and try to get interviewees to confirm the journalists conclusions.
The journalists already have their narrative, therefore have no need to really listen, or learn. They already believe that they "know" the facts based on their opinions.
Wild that Jordan is having such a complex and high level conversation while also doodling some stars on his note pad. He has an extremely well developed landscape of the ideas that they are discussing and excellent identification of persona that he can do both simultaneously, while still contributing to the conversation and helping the interviewer walk through her arguments. Excellent podcast, btw.
It's rude and dismissive and an avoidance technique
@@bereal6590 interesting. I could see how someone might think that's being a bit rude, but also what points did you think he was avoiding?
@@bereal6590probably helps him think. I’ll be doing stuff whilst talking to people all the time. Helps me stay more focused on what they’re saying tbh.
@bereal6590 incorrect...unless you have a thing against people with ADHD, cause a lot of us do this to concentrate better...I used to do this in school and would get yelled at for not paying attention, even though they would attempt to catch me not paying attention and fail
Edit: typo
@@bereal6590it would be if JBP wasn't engaging with every question being posed to him. He most likely was doodling because she was boring the life out of him by not having an original thought/question for an hour straight
She's grasping at straws so many times here. When she tries to mock him about how many dimensions there are... Jesus, she's so out of her league.
Ra Ra Raspoontang completely out of her league! It’s embarrassing! Like you’d think she’d at least have a handle on the must basic facts! But nada! E.g the percentage of feminist in London?!ffs! She didn’t even have an approximate figure! Ludicrous
She’s drowning and thinks she can breathe underwater.
Everyone except Sam harris is out of their league with him
@@brianfinnegan664 Watch JBP talk with Ben Shapiro. It is quite intellectually delighting. I would say even more than Harris.
@@burgemccole2243 it's not because they agree on too much. Harris and peterson is more interesting because they are of similar intellectual proficiency and have opposing views on god, religion, western culture, Atheism, morals etc, fascinating conversation, I love them both, and shapiro btw
The frustrating part about all these interviews is how obvious it is the interviewers have a specific agenda but what’s encouraging is how much grace Dr Peterson shows while constantly being attacked.
I share the same sentiment this man is attacked and smeared and he handles it with such grace I don't think I can do it. She raises my heart rate just looking at her face
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Having a person who is continuously and maliciously trying to shove words into your mouth is a good enough excuse to lose it already. He was super patient.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 I don’t think you’re wrong at all. I also agree that he got visibly frustrated with her remarks. My point is that I think that was absolutely her intention,to get a rise out of him for views, and my praise of him is that though he was visibly becoming more irritated he never went after her like most of us might have.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Honestly, the whole debate itself is malicious enough. Look at the amount of material she brought and how she ground every word he wrote in his book. This woman prepared for war and if Peterson has slipped even just one, it'd be a public execution.
The frustrating part is that journalists act like experts or even intellectuals. They cite articles written by other halfwit journalists, and pretend they are learned treatises.
I love how she got outraged when he mentioned females tend to use verbal motions to attack someone's character rather than physical violence. And then as a woman tries to paint him as a provokator, a greedy money grabber, and some type of Male dictator. Oh the irony.
hehehehehehehe
Agree that her outrage at his observation was stupid, but there's no irony in her then trying to discredit him in various ways "as a woman". She's just a weak interviewer with a bias trying to catch him out all the time instead of exploring the points more deeply. Peterson's point was that women on average in the wider world tend to attack reputation because physical aggression is not an option to them. In the context of an interview with clear boundaries on physical aggression the playing field is obviously levelled and male interviewers pull the same kind of shit all the time. Surely you've seen it over and over?
precisely
hahahaha, exactly!
greyztone
It is ironic that she laughs at the idea that women do something more often while she’s doing it... I don’t see your point in saying this is not ironic...
Peterson is brilliant at patiently explaining to the woke world what we all fundamentally know to be true. What is amazing is that that has become necessary.
Well, it is hard to see clearly. Ideologies fog everyone's sight.
@@iraqwarveteran470the ideology becomes the sight.
The man has mastered the art of patience. That in itself is admirable.
Exactly what I was thinking.
He's playing the long game always
Indeed. I got annoyed and frustrated just listening to her. Most of her comments were there just to try to look smart. He, held his ground admirably though.
This is not a game! Why do men think this way.
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@@bonnierobinson8684 gender is just a social construct sweetheart. Now go back to sleep.
she's not even trying to listen.
You can actually see her reading her next line and formulate it in her head while she should be listening and as soon as he stops speaking she fires it at him. She's just not smart enough to do it all at once. Like Jordan can
hahaha now do you get woman?? its in your words... everytime you make a fair and valid point whether in a heated situation or not, but generally when they have been insulted/criticized ive noted.
they are doing what you just posted bruh thats women in a nutshell (well some of them)
watch her @ 9:35 she really isn't even listening. And she does this through the whole "interview". More like an interrogation predetermined by her subjective narrative..
@@matthewlarkin5525 Yeah in my years of dealing with women that want to be right or No.1 or the dominant type, when conversations hit those triggers the ladies instantly stop listening go defense/attack mode and try and pick apart any credibility, mock what was said or just get pissy at what has been said.
And therefor completely ignore the words directed at them in the first place and also for any response you make to the dribble they spew out there after... TOTAL INSECURITY, aaaand inability to just generally control emotions or filter there mouth.. which is why you dont run nations ladies..NUFF SAID oh and makes you look ever the fools
Anmol Singh oh she's listening alright! but she's refusing to accept truth, instead, feelings are getting the best and worse of her.
I didn't know Cathy Newman had a sister.
Not a sister but an identical Copy
Sexist! Don't you know it's now non-specific gender sibling.
i just watched these 2 interviews back to back and she is not even close to Cathy. You may not agree with what she thinks and that's fine, but, she wasn't overly aggressive, she didn't rudely interject as much and she definitely didn't put words in his mouth.
@@josoffat7649 you want to control woman?!?!??
She did put this in his mouth clearly
I see it the other way around. This is a great interview with two people who disagree.
The patience and composure of this man speaks volumes past what he already speaks. As I need to work on myself I wouldn't be able to sit for very long while someone criticized my lifes work, views, and bombarded me with questions in an attempt to "get" the interviewed. As well as when the questions are answered in a logical and balanced way the interviewing switches to another topical question when they aren't "winning" the opinionated questioning. JBP keep going strong
I'd like to say something disparaging about this interviewer, but I'm going to clean my room instead. 😑
hell yes
Amen!
Hai Phan I kind of agree but you missed one point. Whenever she disagreed with one of his points she changed topic. And that happened quite a lot, like every minute or so.
Well done sir!
Word
Man the interviewer is pretty condescending. He’s actually right in what he is saying. She’s attacking him. 😣
I agree Simone. She attacks Jordan... and does a very poor job promoting her view. Bad questioner...asking bad questions, then not really hearing the responses.
@@carycunningham6588 I agree. She never actually bothered to listen to his answers and to try and grapple with them. It's so mind boggling that she doesn't even understand that he's actually criticizing the exact ideology she can't shake herself free from.
Peterson: I don't believe you should be viewing the world through a lens of "group identity is paramount."
Interviewer: So who's your favorite feminist?
@Patrick J Mims I think you're the one who needs to watch it again. Sheesh, the cognitive dissonance...
If I may...would you consider this...that what she was pulling was lower than attacking. I couldn't believe it at first but then it was so obvious..she was trolling him...and that's as cheap as it gets.
@simone - that's right. It's hilarious really. I'm sure she'd like to see herself as a radical and intellectual, and she doesn't realize that she's just coming across as thick and nasty. A poor man's Cathy Newman, I reckon.
Anne: writing notes on how she can try and push bullshit agendas.
Jordan: destroys her agendas while drawing doodles.
I just noticed that
Well he was wrong on the trans issue. He rallied support for freedom of speech... everyone got on board, but in that same action he treated the trans community like a stubborn beurocrat placing procedural correctness before people needs. So I get the impression he probably have some flawed logic to his ideas on gender too
@@paulesposito7055 yah, no. He has said multiple time that he would respect a trans person's pronouns if they are being genuine. And calling a person by a pronoun, it is not a need, it is a generosity. BIG DIFFERENCE.
@@paulesposito7055 you have not listened to him
@@CourageToB I know him inside out. He’s a dog. As a consequence, his ridiculous concerns were ignored and the law sailed straight through
Quite an amazing interview. Hats off to both. She hectored as is her job, but was then rebutted, educated, and forced to acknowledge a more evolved and developed intellect and person. Peterson was magnanimous, and patient, with an aggressive ideologue feminist.
Damn I was going to make that comment! Awesome comment!
“I’m not interviewing clinical literature, I’m interviewing you.” What a stupid thing to say to a scientist.
Clearly trying to be provocative
@@regalsylvester no, I don’t think so. I think she just blabbed the first thing that came to her mind out of desperation. Peterson was poking holes in her way of thinking so naturally she felt threatened and responded, as shameful as it was.
THANK YOU
Lmaoooooo
He's a psychologist not a psychiatrist. Those are two different professions. One requires more science while the other one which Peterson is requires none at all!
Every time he actually starts dismantling her assertions she changes the subject. CLASSIC manipulative practice. She is desperate to remain in absolute control of the interchange. Her goal is not to ask him questions and hear him answer, it is to force him to say what she wants him to say
Sounds like my relationship
Most telling when Jordan starts drilling down into the difficult question of how to regulate sexual behaviour at work. You can almost see the interviewer realising she is not going to pin anything on him and may well infact end up in a complex dialogue and wop change of topic.
Sociopaths
That must be why it seems like they can't close a topic, though Peterson does excellently at providing his thoughts.
@@HFTYKCK Try Getting Some Mgtow knowledge,
Starting With Rollo Thomassi
I love how she has pages full of "gotcha" notes, and Dr. Peterson is simply drawing on a piece of paper, and yet she fails so spectacularly.
She is a perfect example of how ideology destroys the rational mind (if she ever had one).
" ideology destroys the rational mind" - that'a a great phrase and so very and depressingly true- not heard it put quite so succinctly - I'm going to us that one myself. Is it a well known quote or did you make it yourself ?
Average IQ ideologically indoctrinated feminist woman (who believes she is highly intelligent, but confuses education with intelligence) tries to take down non ideological well educated intellectual giant.
Epic fail for yet another feminist "intellectual".
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I saw that - he's apparently doodling. That woman is an insufferable infant.
I think the ideology creeps in when there's a certain void in a personality. This exact type, and so sorry to say it, but predominantly female, are usually having great sense of low self-esteem, insecurities of all kinds and self-hatred. Ideology helps to turn it into condescension, sense of supremacy and extremely narrowed mind.
The best thing you can do is listen to this man, over and again. His vocabulary is something else. Every time I hear him another time, I am given a new layer of thought. The most misunderstood orator of our times, if only they could take a moment to listen to his words. He is our generation’s pride and boasting about him is only a natural thing to do. Thank you JP, you’ve opened millions of hearts to peace.
The individual conducting this interview seems to think follow-up questions are to be used to interupt your subject and attempt to suggest you have trapped them, as opposed to eludicate or expand upon a point already made. Quite poor form all in all and impolite to the other person.
Koreans are going to win worlds again :(
A lot of people who interview JP just want to hamfist their own ideas and interrupt him. It's good that he has a good reply to stun them with every now and then
Everything started to change in the 1960s.. Rock n roll changed the world
Thooorin
She is emotional driven.
She is crazy and agressive small minded person.
Holy hell. Where do they find these women. Like push push push for an answer. The halfway they cut him off and switch topics once they see won’t get him to say what they want. He is a patience guru. Love this guy.
EXACTLY. wow..
Dr Peterson says women and men have about the same IQ. Unfortunately women talk show hosts just dont cut it.
@@totalchaos290 It is not about the average, it is all about the standard deviation.
Men have a larger standard deviation in many traits. Even if the average is the same, a higher standard deviation means that men will be grossly overrepresented three standard deviations out on both sides of the distribution. This is probably the reason why most Nobel Prize winners in natural sciences are men or out of all self made billionaires only a handful are women.
It was more of a joke but Newman was way out of her league. Shes a hack shes just pushes her agenda and DR P put her down like the dog she is,
Well, that characterizational trait is precisely what makes up what a woman is, so...
The problem I see with many people interviewing JP is that they are all baiting him and hoping he says something wrong. His wisdom and approach just leave them in the mud.
Like Jordan said. Women like to show aggressiveness through reputation destruction..
They try to outsmart him probably because he make them feel powerless
87stevan I’ve learned more from this man than I did in school
@@sluglif3424 and his point overwhelmingly is: power must be earned.
yeah... WHY? (...sounding like Russell Brand .. JBP's contemporary, i think)
For all those who think anne was trying to trap him, she was not. She was very very professional and she asked him all the questions the radical left want to trap him with BUT she gave him ample opportunity to defend himself. This never happens in his debates. You get guys like Michael Erik Dyson having to interrupt and straw man him the entire time. She did very well in interviewing him and she asked the questions that we want to hear him defend. He aced the test and she made it difficult. But she respected his answers. Well done and I would love to see her interview more people rather than say Don Lemon or anyone from the BBC.
I was in a dark place in my life. My life was a mess. As much as I tried, I couldn't get out of bed, I was in great depression in my life. Watching Jordan Peterson's online lectures, I started little by little. After two years, little by little, I managed to have personal responsibility, to have a vision for my future. You really helped me a lot. Thank you very much Mr. Peterson.
Good for you, thanks for sharing your story. It's very positive to hear that other people are also benefiting from his lectures!
Hey Paulo, I hope you're still doing well, and I hope for the best for you.
Yeah well that makes you baddd /s
Its astounding how much shit peterson gets.
History will be kind to him, while these false attacks, not so much.
I've not much time for Peterson but this is one of the few threads on this video that doesn't make my scrotum unwrinkle itself in shock at what I read.
I am on the start of this path hopefully just quit self medicating with weed and benzos and going to hopefully get my future straight. But who knows what the future holds
Living legend, a truly masterful orator. I'm also pleased with the "women are not a minority" rebuttal. As a black man i'm sick of these autocrat sugar spun white women using my people and other less "empowered" demographics to prop up their narrative. Don't use me as a flail to beat white men over the head, your maniacal feminist delusions can't detract from the millennium of playing Rapunzel. White men have coddled and infantilised you at their own expenses. There are women worldwide who genuinely face tumultuous circumstances. Your plight is sucking some director off for a two million dollar acting gig. Not comparable, just narcissism.😕
Ryan Lewis
As a brown man, i agree and dont see myself as a minorty. Hell i dont even like bring out my race because its irrelevent but for thoae who only see the world as groups of races they would asaume im a white southerner with missing teeth otherwise. Which ironically is racist on their part but we are talking about leftists.
Poignant
tribalism^
Ryan Lewis While I get the fact that it's good to see the word 'minority' not being used outside of the actual proper definition, please be sure not to dive into identity politics in pointing that out. Your point would have been just as valid had you not been a black man yourself. You're an individual first and foremost, and not defined by the color of your skin or the fact you happen to be part of a minority group. You're just like the rest of us, and deserve all respect, like the rest of us.
Jason Carto completely understandable to feel te urge to do that. But by playing the idenitity politics card you're actively stimulating polarization. Again, I get where you're coming from, but the only way to combat identity politics or it's even more evil twin racism, is to not make that differentiation yourself. Your arguments should validate themselves.
The interviewer dramatically raised my blood pressure.
I think this was relatively tame xD
@@ZupaTr00pa well the absolute ignorance and straw manning she was trying to clutch was blood clenching
Then I dont recommend you watch the Cathy Newman interview, the Q&A with the australian politician or the debate with that NZ Professor of gender studies (whose face is btw extremely annoying).
This woman wrote an article in the evening standard titled 'The unvaccinated have become a lethal liability we can ill afford' dec 14th. Just thought you might want to know this to reinforce what a intolerable and toxic person she is. Not very compromising and agreeable at all.
@@ZupaTr00pa Yea I agree - it was no more or less aggressive than any debate I've seen, was done relatively respectfully even though they clearly disagree with each other on some stuff. Comparing this to the Cathy Newman thing is actually like night and day, THAT was hard to watch. This was more like...playing a game with debating strategies. It was a conversation that wasn't rife with talking over eachother/ad hominems/putting words into eachothers' mouths over and over
I am an educated woman with some feminist ideals . I used to interview people on the radio. I thought she did a horrible and slanted intreview that did not listen to him or let him speak. Listen to him!! He is nuanced, which IS IMPORTANT. I have never heard this man before, but I will go and listen to more of him so I can finally HEAR his point of view without her trying to shove her point of view on him.
This woman got exposed so effortlessly.
If she would stfu she might learn something. She had to read her papers to keep up mentally with Jordan lol.
@@nathangribbons2360 she was trying so hard and Jordan was doodling. How he keeps his cool is next level.
Every interview he's had where resentful women have tried to ambush him have gone like this one. It's also absurd for interviewers like this one to say "you seem angry" after all these continual attempts to derail his career, smear him. Like all the leftist, feminist takes when Brett Kavanaugh was accused of rape, how his anger showed that he was guilty and evil. No. He was angry because the attacks and narratives slanted against him were absurd and callous.
She not even qualified to ask questions
She had zero interest in his answers. And didn't really even listen or acknowledge what he was saying
I have seldomly watched an interview that made me this angry. Mostly because she was not really engaging in a conversation but was just only aiming at trying to get dr. Peterson to say something reprehensible. The amount of patience and calmness that this man has is an example to everyone. I hope Anne can find the ability to listen a bit more to her guests instead of trying to score points all the time.
Like when she physically pushes herself back into her seat after she thinks she has him, just to be reeled back in by his logic in cutting the net from around him.
Shes trying so hard to catch him, while she is so behind intellectually it’s embarrassing.
one almost feels embarrassed for her... yet again, Peterson rose above such mediocre tactics
i think it was one of the best interviewer for peterson. she did her job as an interviewer, pushing him to to elaborate. Much more subtle and sophisticated interview than most. She has her agenda, of course, who is perfectly objective? No one.
@@benledolmen this is the important thing. an interviewer is there to get to the root of what the interviewee is talking about, she did this greatly. this isnt in the same line as the channel 4 interview in which it was all combative to the point that no one learened anything. the interviewer obviously dissagreed but she was willing to agree where she had to but also challange where petterson wasnt clear on his point to make sure the viewer understood where he was coming from. great interview all in all.
It’s amazing how he keeps his composure while being bombarded with loaded questions. Truly an aspiration for us all.
She’s the absolute worst interviewer I’ve ever seen. Let him answering something beyond 15%.
Jordan B Peterson is on the payroll of Orban the Neonazi Terrorist leader organizer of the Magyar Gárda Neo-Nazi paramilitary group 2007-2010 and since dictator of Hungary
As the guest of Führer Orban in the Führer Castle of Buda, Jordan B. Peterson :
"my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel against your leader! What your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture
Jordan B. Peterson :
"my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel.
What your leader is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture."
What do you mean like when he isn’t crying?
@Rob Neeth Instead of attaching yourself to fantasies about the interlocutors, perhaps consider the merits of the arguments proposed.
I am a woman, and I respect Jordan Petersons' educated opinions and knowledge. I am having difficulties with the attitudes of women these days to the point I don't like them. Female interviewers of Dr. Petersen appear to just want to win and prove him wrong. Silly women , I understand what he says and feel his way of looking at life, men and women, to be something that is missing in our modern belief systems. The women usually end up embarrassing themselves.
"Why do you want to monetize?" Jesus, Anne. Why do you have a job, Anne? Why do YOU need to monetize?
Brandon Springer exactly it was such an idiotic question that I literally face palmed.
"Money is used for goods and services."
She is senior editor for the Economist for gods sake, do they not monetize? And since they do, obviously, does their money only go to virginally pure neutral ventures?
It seems like she didn't understand the answers...
And this is why I uncategorically use adblocks. I don't want to give anyone any revenue that I don't feel they deserved. I've benefited from Peterson's work and I've consequently bought 2 copies of his book.
The problem with this man is that he is so blisteringy intelligent he flies over most people's heads.
In the land of the one-eyed, the two-eyed man is crazy.
If he is so smart why did he back out of the Richard Wolff debate on Marxism, even going so far as to pretend not to know who Professor Wolff was?
"There was this professor... Richard Wolff, I believe? He responded to my comments on Marxism..." LMFAO
@@KrisVic91 he's the king of talking incoherently in circles.
@@MonkeyDIvan what a reach
@@JayandSarah if you can't comprehend what he's saying, just say that lol
If I had Jordan Peterson as my teacher, I'd never miss a class
Jordan is internet dad to us all. Watch dad be a badass and clean the floor with these woke lunatics.
"My particular attraction for young, white men." Jordan Peterson
@@Sam-cx6gz No
@@Cyfog10 @Sam sams a weirdo
@@WedgeUhMite I mean, his quote is technically correct he just clipped that piece of it and posted it way out of context. I shouldn't be surprised at the internet at this point though 😂
Wow she got absolutely schooled. Very intelligent interviewer but her loaded questions, disparaging remarks, and scoffs got her a profoundly well balanced and thoughtful response that she seemed to be bemused by. I wish her all the best and hope she can release some of her ideological resentment.
As I often do, I found the interview irritating because the width and depth of Jordan's responses were as always not being allowed to fully form therefore no question was fully answered before the next was presented. I am convinced he is very often frustrated by the interviewer's inability or lack of desire to grasp the logical discourse he presents.
Nobody has ever been treated as unfairly in human history as Jordan Peterson. Maybe Trump.
Peterson suffers foolishness but he expects it and sees it coming. Part of the yoke he has taken on.
No dedicated scholar gets to land in a perfectly logically coherent world.
Chomsky answers personal emails to ordinary people every day, this is the burden of those who care.
She did very well. It is the job of an interviewer to be the medium between the interviewee and the audience. The interviewer needs to package what is said. To create some order. Jordan is therfor the most difficult man to interview because what he says is complex and there is a lot of it. In this case, it is not inability or unwillingness, or, like in cathy newman's case: maliciousness.
Very well observed.Time is always limited in these interviews but McElvoy listens....not always the case in the prepared interview.....and is very bright which makes the back and fore good at bringing out in Peterson difficult concepts.
Perfectly said 100% agree
"Just to be clear, you think that a water molecule is two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom bonded together."
"Its not that I THINK that!"
Felix Alrick well done 👍
Lol! It is frustrating. As a general rule if you're male, never go into a philosophical discussion with a woman.
Felix Alrick
😂😂😂😂😂😊
So you’re saying you support the unequal molecular gap in hydrogen and oxygen in water?
Oxygen is in minority, but it's the hydrogen that feels oppressed
She doesn’t even let the man complete most of his responses. She wasn’t there to find out his views at all, it was more so to “catch” him in something that would connect her negative views of him as truth. She’s sickening
true, she was interviewing to vilify him
@@abhishekherCaptain Ahab hunting her great White Whale!!
Agreed, she was fishing and at the end, all she got was a big load of nothing. People like her is not interested in gaining knowledge. She's just trying to be the white knight of effenism and failing miserably. She however outed herself as an effenist ideologues and nothing more.
I see the same thing… we got to take the power back… Men and Women.”
I absolutely adore Jordan Peterson and I'm a woman. ❤👏👏👏👏
I'd LOVE to have a conversation with him, especially about how amazing it is being a housewife and mother. How it's empowering for me and how much my family depends on me and what a benefit my role has been on my child and husband. I think we have a pretty beautiful and healthy life, tbh. I'm very happy about what I've accomplished even though our society doesn't see it as such. We have treasures money can't buy.
sigh , here we go again "i'm a woman" as if your vagina gave you personal insight on something....i'm so sick of hearing "and i am a woman!" as if being one is so special its amazing you actually listened at all? huh?!
My man Jordan Peterson literally doodling while he embarrasses this clueless journalist with 4 piles of prepared arguments.
He's got God Tier intelligence😎🔥🔥😌
@Patrick J Mims That's just an expression of witnessing unbelievable intelligence, at least to his mind, if not for everyone. Although, I think too, that he's got very good categorizing ability on whatever questions they ask him, and he deals with them, subdivided which I think is a sign of good understanding in that subject and general intelligence to categorize them at all. To what extent, he does this, since better than average people can also do it, he does it almost all the time; which is a very well-practiced, methodical and obtains the end goal, without too much obstacles in the path of infusion of two or more separated ideas, under the same question. Also, his verbal intelligence is higher than you see in many people in our daily lives, which is not something to scoff at, and also indicates at his intelligence under one class.
Now this is a man of western culture.
A truly admirable gentleman.
Alex Martinovic god bless him too. He puts up with ALOT of bullshit, and yet comes out shiney armor and everything lol
Yes 🙌
Which western culture? There are many.
'Western culture, that's a great idea.'
Mahatma Gandi.
Noooo maan. This guy is a citizen of the world, respects and consults spiritual traditions witch 'western culture' does not. Yet
"im not interviewing the clinical literature, im interviewing you" thats perhaps the best example of the lack of intelligence and moral standards in the interviewer's questions. If you dont want an informed accurate and educated answer, then why are you asking the question?
Best comment in a string of great comments
Brilliant! Love this comment.
Keep crying and keep seething. Your judgement is clouded by your hatred for people who don't think like you do.
You call that crying and seething?
I agree!
Why ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer?
She (seemingly deliberately) also keeps interrupting him right as he’s reaching the main point of his statement
I love civil discourse but I wonder what she thought of the interview after viewing herself. It’s not so much about him winning or losing, but he had an articulate, well-thought response to every topic she raised. Appreciate the calmness he exhibited throughout. It kept the focus on the discussion/topics.
Either rename the show or find a host who matches it.
Zzzingggg
yeah it's that thing where you have to tell someone that you're smart. because otherwise they'd never guessed it :)
AND have a slavish adherence to the preferred ideology? not possible.
Well said
Eighter rasp your claws or stop making comments on youtube videoes. that was SAVAGE.
My love for this man is beyond words. By the way I am a girl.
Isn't it a shame you feel you have to point out being a girl - hopefully what most will take away from it, is that you're a thoroughly decent one.
All the best in 2020 xx
Ditto!
@@gnoelalexmay why is that a shame? That's embarrassing you even think that
@@bye92 I think you may have missed Graham May's point altogether.
An open logical person Or a woman?
She asked " Am I the average woman?" And got upset with an objective answer.
...like an average woman
If I was Jordan I would've answered "Do you feel like you are better than the average women?"
@@ObsoleteTutorials A bit too open ended. Leaves them a chance of recovery and doesn't force them to face the reality.
Guessing the rhetoric question and all the rhetoric answers are all coming from guys who consider themselves to be" average" men. Average misogynists, yeah :-)
@@Ounouh gold
JP is one of the greatest thinkers of modern times....a truly great man!
It's so hard to watch an interview when the interviewer has no intention to actually hear and ponder the responses she receives, but rather to find another point from which to attack her interviewee. So tiring!
It's so obvious … cant stand her !!!
I don't think thats the issue, I think what's mostly happening is she has so many pages of questions she has to get to and she has to try and understand his answers and challenge him on the things he says... you can see her nod her head in agreeing with him throughout the interview so I think she agrees with a lot of the things he says.
@@karn33333 I think she doesn't understand a quarter of what is being said by Peterson, i dont think that she agree with what he say's at all it's just a manner she has when she doesn't understand and when she just want to pass to another subject. It' another exemple of a leftist leaning interviewer who try to ''trap'' the interviewee so she cant have some ''power'' over it, and be recognise as the person who dismantle Peterson. A good interview let the place to the interviewee to express his vision … a debate is where you ''challenge'' idea … but nowaday no one give a care about the meaning of thing's, that's why seeking of truth is now something that is under attack, we see it with how these interview are conducted !!!
Great point Johanna
I actually thought this interviewer was doing a fantastic job! There was an obvious bias, but she poked and prodded as she needed to. Jordan Peterson calm and collected manner helped make this a very interesting interview
This man is the best we've got. Period.
Well he was wrong on the trans issue. He rallied support for freedom of speech... everyone got on board, but in that same action he treated the trans community like a stubborn beurocrat placing procedural correctness before people needs. So I get the impression he probably have some flawed logic to his ideas on gender too
dont forget Ben Shapiro
@@paulesposito7055 he did not treat the trans community like a "stubborn beurocrat", he outlined that under no circumstances would he let the government dictate what he is required to say. It was pretty clear. He has said countless times that he supports them and their decision but he doesnt agree with the channels that they went about getting what they wanted.
@@jimmythechicken4802 yeah but the thing is, there is no law that forces you to use pronouns! Nor would you get in legal trouble for not using one.
@@dustinstewart692 yeah I’m learning
This man's brain power and ability is unbelievable. How he stays calm and can easily dissect his opponents arguments is brilliant.
Yeah, and he doodles in the meantime
@@Khedaar Reminded me of Dennis from Always Sunny in Philadelphia at the Psychologist lol One of the best episodes ever
Absolutely anhinatlsted. She tried to disms tled his arguments with passive aggressive jibes and switching topics. Solid performance for JP and why we love him. The antidote we all need. The journalist is a mouth piece drone for the mainstream.
This woman did not try to see his point even ONCE in this whole "discussion". She always try to twist his words and make him "wrong".
%
It's her operating system.
Cathy Newman Syndrome.
@@AnabolicFarmer She set the standard for obnoxious interviewer and thought she won the argument and went to extraordinary measures to make him look bad. 🤷♂️😊🤔🐀
@@AnabolicFarmer so what you're saying is....
her disdain and intent to catch him into being a horrible person makes it hard but so satisfying to watch Dr Peterson flowing like water
Doctor water peterjohn
i dont get why people think this. she is trying to conduct an interesting interview and how is she doing that? by challenging his ideas. i think you guys overestimate the adversarial position you believe the interviewer is trying to take. if she asked all fluff questions, how interesting would the interview be?
the top rated comments for jordan peterson always seem to criticize female interviewers for their "lack of intellect" or "bad motives" which brings credence to the people who criticize jordan peterson. i dont think i have an issue with peterson, but i do have an issue with the conclusions a lot of his fans come to as a result of listening to peterson.
@@davemanning4005 so you have watched enough of these interviews, i would assume you see the same attitude by the same type towards him, now what don't you get?
@@davemanning4005 Every time he corners she directs the topic to where she wants it to go. Sorry but if you literally can’t let your client speak then you have not only failed at being an interviewer, you have also failed as a decent human being.
When Jordan talks her eyes just glaze over thinking about what she’s going to say next.
Why don’t these people try LISTENING rather than trying to score points. It makes them look really bad and they don’t even realise.
That's exactly what I noticed too! It's like cathy newman all over again. She's trying on purpose to take every statement in the wrong way and it's so frustrating after the first 5 minutes. "Ducks have feathers" "So you don't think there's ever been a duck with no feathers ever because you hate ducks and you're evil?!" "...."
They are so narcissistic, they don't even care
Most people don't listen to understand they listen waiting only to reply.
Noticed that too
I think some of it might be her job, and agenda, but I hope you give her the time of day, because she's worth something to somebody. Everything she says and thinks no doubt she's doing with the truest of intentions. It's just confusion. And that's why we have Jordan Peterson.
I learn so much from Jordon Peterson throughout the years.
Propably the most important man of our western civilisation.
And all it took was addressing the obvious in a research backed way (:
Thankfully he can shoulder the truth of it with humility. He's one of those who are a gift to mankind, being born for such a time as this.
@@casualamer8543 Yes, but the Left has a way of twisting what is inherently obvious to people. I think we've been "gaslighted" by them for far too long.
Christ?
@@jpaulo_ap Him too.
Everytime Jordan starts saying something she does not like to hear, she brushes over the question, and moves on.
Yes, same pattern that Cathy Newman performed on Channel 4.
And what is remarkable is how he keeps his calm and followed up to the next topic as well. The man is brilliant
Every debate with a leftist, ever.
They might have had little time, and wanting to cover as much as possible. I think that’s a wrong way to go though, would have preferred fewer topics and more detailed. This is too rushed
Almost like each and every one of the british women he's ever debated in these "interviews"
I wish this interviewer would have let certain subjects unfold. She seems to jump around every time he starts making a good point.
Neil Kirkpatrick This is what happens when you have an ideologue conducting an interview.
I think it’s more a matter of shitty format and time constraints. She has all these topics the producers probably want her to hit. Just look at those papers.
But yeah, it was by far the most annoying aspect of the interview.
Yep.
Whenever she realized she couldn't get anything out of him in one subject, she'd instantly jump to the next. And then people will defend her saying "well, she had time constraints". How convenient
It was hilarious. She changed the subject every time Peterson won an argument.
I appreciate that she asked tough questions! You guys shouldn’t be angry at the interviewer. This is the type of content we need and she was gracious and vulnerable enough to take on the Behemoth that is Jordan Peterson.
There's nothing wrong with tough questions. If every question were soft, then what's the point. The problem I had with this interviewer, and several others who've interviewed Dr. Peterson, is that as soon as she realised he running circles around her, she interrupted and moved on to some other topic.
I wish these women would stop saying that only men follow Dr. Peterson's work.I am a forty-seven year old grandmother. I do not agree with him 100% of the time but I definitely support his work. And shame on this woman for trying to make him feel guilty for accepting patronage for his work. People like her are the reason that most creators are poor.
i'll agree we donate as democracy allows
Fifty nine year old grandmother. Drove four hours to Philadelphia to hear him speak. I also invited my oldest daughter, left leaning, socisl worker, working on continuing her education. Great talk worth very moment. She also agreed with some points he spoke of.
JBP looks sad and tired of casting pearls before swine. I think he learned something from that Munk debate and it wasn't good. Like maybe this isnt as productive as he thought. These people are possessed by their ideas.
He could probably smell it off this woman just by some neurotic mannerism early on. Nonetheless he carries on. Putting his best foot forward every time. Truly living what he preaches. Absolutely admirable.
SkepticalMillenial she's the stereotypical middle class middle aged lisping female I've met so many times in my life. They're all the same. It's uncanny.
Exposure helps him to reach more people, and as such have a chance to help them. He will continue, he's strong.
He knows he's not going to change her mind (or Dyson's mind during the Munk debate). He does it for us the viewers. If it wasn't going on youtube theres no way JP would suffer these people like he does
he's casting pearls before swine so the audience, who believe the swine to be the epitome of intellect and wisdom, are relieved of this illusion.
skep naw he can hold his own
"I'm right you are wrong" "lalalalalalalala" "not listening"
How to be an interviewer in the 21st century
I def think he lost interest at the end! ;)
Lasse Kristensen he lost interest in the beginning 😆 he started doodling before the podcast began
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
"So what you're saying" 2.0. When will people learn you cannot defeat insurmountable truth and logic with subjective ideology?
Eric the Viking I kept expecting her to spout "So what you're saying is". So cringe 😝
Eric the Viking when men get the best results from divorce courts, when employers high the best person for the job instead of filling quotas, when one is not called sexist, homophobic, transphobic, racist nazi just because you are a white male that has not said anything!!!!
they won't for a long time i think. I kind of foresee a roller coaster type joyride that will eventually find its way to a middle ground between the two sides. In the meantime though we will have to suffer through the ridiculous lashing out of spoiled snowflakes, and after that a major backlash against them by fed up men and women who will not bent to the crap anymore.
Eric the Viking Lol nice, just commented that before scrolling down. That's exactly what this is.
Well said
This woman doesn't do any research. Rename this podcast to "Cognitive Dissonance."
😂 Lol
She did much research on debating ambush tactics, mastery of rudeness and bigotry.
"Scientifically incompetent"
She’s so irritating! He’s making brilliant observations and I’m trying to educate myself but she won’t stop interrupting his brilliance!
Right?!! She’s not even trying to understand his points. Or perhaps she can’t understand them, and doesn’t want to confront that fact.
It truly feels like she is so convinced of her own truth, that whenever she hears something that logically shows her ideas to be untrue, she just goes blank and just doesn't allow it to integrate into her believes and moves on to the next subject still wondering slightly what just happened a few moments ago and why it didn't go as she imagined.
Like when she asks "there's literature on gossip and innuendo?" Like she has no idea that is actually (like peterson says) "a well documented field". And you'd expect that after finding that out you'd reconsider what you said before that moment when you still thought he was just making this stuff up. But none of that. She just plows through without the slightest hint of actually having processed any of the answers she gets. It is an hour long of "I am right and I don't quite understand why my quest says different things than I expected but lets go on regardless"
Another interviewer who came to the dinner table without a fork
Al E Gator she came with 2 knives.....
I was going to write that I was at @15:00 so far and she was doing fine, asking good, non-debaters questions that brought out some real knowledge. By @30:00 ... not so much. She's in a machine gun fight against a guy in an A-10 not knowing her gun is a toy.
Jordan Peterson is a runaway freight train these interviewers cant even catch up to his mind wizardry. LEGEND
Ahh really the pay gap again! They are still pushing that wheelbarrow of horseshit!
Omg I'm almost done, but the pattern of load a question get shot down with actual arguments, try and steer the argument to the feminist argument keep getting shot down. Bout time to quickly change the subject!
JP is doodling on a piece of paper with his left hand.... while dismantling her life's work.
Ryan DESTROYS -click bait here- left hand?
I see a pen in his right hand.
@@jht3fougifh393 Can confirm
bcstractor lmfao how so?
bcstractor he actually doesn’t the says to live as though there is one. You must not really listen to what he’s said if you didn’t know that 🤔 instead of trying to insult make sure you at least have your facts straight.
“Male activity is viewed with far more skepticism than is warranted at the moment. That is certainly a problem.” This man never fails to put things into words that I could have never imagined. I struggle with these ideas and he speaks to them so eloquently, receiving his insight is always interesting.
Practice , lots of reading of great thinkers and sadges helps a lot!
He sure is right about tramp
Because the powers that be want us submissive and passive, they don't want people willing to stand up for themselves cause it makes it easier to walk over us
interviewer : What is the formula for calculating pi?
JBP: π = Circumference/ Diameter.
interviewer: I have no idea how one could possibly conclude that.
JBP: it's the geometry -
Archimedes of Syracuse did this
interviewer: it depend on your definition of
Archimedes of Syracuse .
Jordan has far more patience with passive-aggressive people than I do.
I am afraid of cancel culture. I have done bad things.
@@SvenErik_Lindstrom3 unless you're a big celebrity, i don't think you need to worry lmao
Passive aggressive is just a politically correct term for "you fight like a woman".
What you need to realise about passive aggressive people is that your anger/frustration gives them pleasure, don't let them see that they're getting to you and that will screw with them more than anything
@@Santinho123 You think only celebrities deal with passive aggressive people?? With a name like your I'd thought you'd be more wiser