Cliffe Educates Man On Evolution (Proves God’s Existence)
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- Join Cliffe, a devout Christian, as he engages in a spirited debate with an atheist on the topics of evolution and the origin of life. Watch as they delve into the complexities of science and faith, exploring different perspectives and seeking understanding. Gain insights into the ongoing dialogue between faith and reason in this thought-provoking exchange of ideas. Leave a comment on the content you’d like to see in the future! #cliffeknechtle #Jesus
Cliffe is one giant walking argument from incredulity
He really does roll out the fallacies. He never responds directly to questions in this chaotic platform, just hurls inane questions and statements back. But I've seen him utterly embarrassed in a conversation with Matt Dillahunty, where was was forced to answer directly, and wasn't allowed to obfuscate and spout nonsense. Of course, that's what he did, but it was more exposing
Not really, but it's clear u disagree with him.
Sometimes. Cliffe Knechtle's not very knowledgeable on evolutionary biology but I understand his point about the origins of Life.
I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost season brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
@justingary5322 I am not going to deal with all of that, but I will expose your fraudulence with regards the Ridley quote. You have ransacked that cherry-picked segmemt from a disingenuous creationist website. Here is it in full, however, with the bits creationists didn't want you to see since it doesn't help them:
"Someone is getting it wrong, and it isn't Darwin; it is the creationists and the media.
"In any case, no real evolutionist, whether gradualist or punctuationist, uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of evolution as opposed to special creation. The does not mean that the theory of evolution is unproven.
"So what is the evidence that species have evolved? There have traditionally been three kinds of evidence, and it is these, not the "fossil evidence", that the critics should be thinking about. The three arguments are from the observed evolution of species, from biogeography, and from the hierarchical structure of taxonomy.
"These three are the clearest arguments for the mutability of species. Other defences of the theory of evolution could be made, not the least of which is the absence of a coherent alternative. Darwin's theory is also uniquely able to account for both the presence of design, and the absence of design (vestigial organs), in nature." - Mark Ridley
Sad that you have fallen for creationist misinformation and dishonest editing. But it's what happens when turn to faith and abandon fact. Based on that alone, one must doubt everything you said.
@justingary5322 Shame you chose to ransack and cherry pick Ridley's quote, probably from some dishonest creationist source. Here is the actual Ridley quote, in full, and it really doesn't help you:
"Someone is getting it wrong, and it isn't Darwin; it is the creationists and the media. In any case, no real evolutionist, whether gradualist or punctuationist, uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of evolution as opposed to special creation. The does not mean that the theory of evolution is unproven. So what is the evidence that species have evolved? There have traditionally been three kinds of evidence, and it is these, not the 'fossil evidence', that the critics should be thinking about. The three arguments are from the observed evolution of species, from biogeography, and from the hierarchical structure of taxonomy. These three are the clearest arguments for the mutability of species. Other defences of the theory of evolution could be made, not the least of which is the absence of a coherent alternative. Darwin's theory is also uniquely able to account for both the presence of design, and the absence of design (vestigial organs), in nature."
So try to use genuine sources in future, or people are liable to mistrust everything you say.
One day I shall stand and speak this boldly like Cliffe. I love him. 🥰🥰👌🏾
you wanna sound like an idiot too?
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." --- Voltaire
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.
-- Psalm 14:1
@@Loading....99.99 That's not even what it means. It is really saying No to God's authority or more likely that god is not concerned with the immorality that exist - he is no where to be found to render justice. It is not a statement about existence. Hardly any and more like ZERO ANE person was an atheist.
@@veridicusmaximus6010 I never said the verse is referring to the none existence of God.
It is said that Voltaire had theistic beliefs.
@@Loading....99.99 Oh, forgive me for thinking that a video that has in the title "Proves Gods Existence" and a comment about a fool by Voltaire and your subsequent verse implying that a fool is one who says there is no god had something to do with his existence. So, if not what does this verse have to do with Voltaire's comment?
You never get something from nothing.Says a man who believes a character from a book spoke things into existence.
Cliffe likes to debate people who are not prepared. Maybe he should remember when Matt Dillahunty destroyed him.
dillamonkey has been destroyed many times
@@omgitsatree4503 not by Cliffe
@@omgitsatree4503 lol
Matt Dillahunty got OWNED by Andrew Wilson recently 😂. Cliffe Knechtle's not very knowledgeable on evolutionary biology but I understand his point about the origins of Life.
I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost season brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
@@justingary5322
How do I copy your comment? I would like to share it.
Cliffe explained that God makes sense of our reality, and all that students did was offered a bunch of possibilites that he couldn't explain.
He was rejecting God just to reject God. as do all atheists.
It's amazing how atheists try to use nonsense to make sense out of nonsense which is pure nonsense!
Atheist here.... not sure what you mean by "reject god just to reject god."
@@thatguyrich9822
Meaning that atheists generally hate God, despite the fact that they reject his existence.
"God" is an assertion not an explanation.
@@veridicusmaximus6010 it's the best explanation from a rational viewpoint.
Cliff couldn't debate his way out of a brown paper bag.
Didn’t you watch the video?
@@mozzarellatherat9687
Yes he's "debating" school kids and using old debunked arguments. Have you seen him with real debaters like Dillahunty and Aron Ra? He got his ass handed to him.🤷🏽
@@nativeatheist6422 well, what exactly are these ''old debunked arguments'' 😒
@@ndibunwapeter9013
The evolution of the eye. Michael Behe tried this argument about a decade ago. So many science books about the evolution of the eye were piled in front of him that you couldn't see his little face. Regarding philosophical nothing, we don't have an example of philosophical nothing to study so we can't know what could happen. Cliff just makes a god-of-the-gaps argument.
@@nativeatheist6422 so how are they debunked when there is no proven answer with substantial evidence.
That guy just spoke for 8 minutes without saying anything; no convincing arguments. Fun fact: you can be a Christian/religious person/believe in God and also believe in evolution theory.
How? Romans 5:12 is clear that death did not enter the world until Adam sinned. Evolution requires death. If you don’t believe the entire Bible is true are you really a Christian?
True
@@FaithThreads Cliffe = argument from incredulity
This argument is thousands of years old, and it has long been debunked.
Amen, and the Big Bang as well, read on Dr. Hugh Ross, he’s amazing at making these things understandable.
@A-hh6mg your faith in Matt is astounding.
Only fools believe and consider as sacred the supernatural fairy tales, fictions, and myths just because a book claims itself to be the holy truth.
Why would we be fools? What if it was true? Would you be willing to suffer the consequences of being the real fool? Because again, it's not just a book that we believe in, it also happens in the real world, there have already been biblical prophecies being fulfilled, and no one is talking about it, because the world is against God.
@@DecadesRemain What if some other god is true? Wouldn’t you want to know which one? Would you be willing to suffer the consequences of being the real fool?
Luckily, you got born and/or indoctrinated into just the right one, eh? What are the chances of that.. 🤭
Isaac Newton
Robert Boyle
Galileo Galilei
Johannes Kepler
Gregor Mendel
These are all famous scientists that had a great impact in our modern world and there were all theists, so by your definition there were all fools.
@@ndibunwapeter9013
Yes, it is possible to be a scientist and still believe in religious fairy tales, fictions, and myths. Besides most of those people you mentioned had no idea about Darwinian evolution. Everyone was religious back then.
@@DecadesRemain
Unfortunately you're not saying anything intelligent by thinking properly & honestly. You're only parroting the bs you've been indoctrinated with.
“Creative mechanism in evolution” - mutation
most mutants cause chaos and destruction you are wrong.
@@user-zo4nk4uq7z No you are wrong - most are near neutral and neutral thus below the threshold of selection and will be maintained and isolated and mutate at the neutral rate. STOP acting like you know what you are talking about because you read Ray Comfort or some other moron.
@@user-zo4nk4uq7z
Nope
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles did lots of good
Stop lying for jeebus
Cliffe Knechtle's not very knowledgeable on evolutionary biology but I understand his point about the origins of Life.
I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost season brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
Nobody is stupider than a religious person.
Grammar is not your forté.
"It's impossible to get something from nothing". Allright, so where does God come from? Christian answer: "God always existed and doesn't come from anything". Allright, so it is possible that something (God) comes from nothing.....
That already shows that you don't understand who and what God is. God is the uncaused first cause. He has no beginning. He is eternal. He has no end. Therefore He doesn't come from anything. He always is.
This is reasoned by understanding that we can't have an infinite number of causes. If we do, then that is an infinite regression, and there would be no beginning, and that would suggest that the universe is eternal. Meaning it always is. And if we're to go there, are you also going to ask where the universe came from, just to be consistent?
Logically, the alternative to the infinite regression presented is that there is a point where we can stop. But that point would have to be an uncaused first cause. In order for it to be uncaused, it must not have a beginning. It would always have to be there. God fits that description. Not Zeus, Thor, and all the man-made pagan deities.
If anyone told you that God came from 'nothing' is plain wrong. The bible never said that. The bible clearly states that God is from everlasting to everlasting (Psalm 90:2)
@@JiraiyaSama86 Which god fits the description of the first uncaused cause and how do you know that? Furthermore, what makes you think that universe itself cannot be the first uncaused cause?
@@tomyossarian7681 The God of the Bible. The short version is that the evidence seems to point to Him due to the reliability of Jesus, and Jesus affirms the accounts from Genesis.
The order and appearance of design all around, combined with experience points to a mind. The more specific and orderly things are, the more it points to a mind. It is highly improbable for such order to arise from randomness.
Also. I don't care to convince you. That's something you have to decide for yourself.
@@JiraiyaSama86 How come God of the Bible fits that description? Where is description of the god of the bible that says it is "first uncaused cause"?
"Furthermore, what makes you think that universe itself cannot be the first uncaused cause?"
I don't care for you to convince me either. I am just wondering how you convinced yourself, and so far I see only a standard christian moron trying not to think as hard as possible.
1) The only people who believe that something came from nothing are theists. They believe god spoke, and everything came from nothing.
2) I see nothing in this video that proves god's existence.
1) God is not "nothing", God is "somebody", a being with intelligent mind. He's eternal, all-powerful and all-knowing. The evidence that Cliffe adresses is "something doesn't come from nothing" can also be rephrased as "everything that has a beginning, has a cause". Our universe has a beginning, The Big Bang, therefore there has to be a cause for all matter that turned into singularity and exploded. But that's where most athiests hit a dead end. Even Albert Einstein struggled with this question, which caused him eventually to turn from pantheism to theism, because there has to be uncaused cause, meaning God, who made our universe.
2) That's where i agree with you, the title of this video is a bit wrong, but here's one thing - Cliffe doesn't try to "prove" God. Nobody can "prove" or "disprove" God. To prove means to show that something can't be the other way around. So there can't be proof that God exists and there's also no proof that God doesn't exist. Cliffe presents evidence, not proof, but evidence, that support the existence of God and the fact that he created us.
Hope that helps, Jesus loves you!
Serious question
Once you answer it with evidence I promise you proof of the supernatural
Deal?
Prove in a scientific, demonstrable way the colour of the musical note C
If you can't you have lost and will be known as a weak human being
@@user-fd1gf6yc5j You demonstrated in a real, scientific way, the depth of your own stupidity. Congrats! You can continue believing any crap you want with no evidence whatsoever.
@@chmurny_typ But therein lies the biggest theistic problem. The claim is that everything that has a beginning has a cause. You'll need to show evidence that the universe has a beginning. And show evidence that god doesn't have a beginning. Moreover, please show evidence that god is somebody.
@@user-fd1gf6yc5j 1) The musical note C has a wavelength of 16.35 Hz (at Octave 0.) The visible light spectrum range is 1014 Hz to 1015 Hz. This means the wavelength of the musical note C is too low for us to see. Our eyes are incapable of seeing it. Therefore, we won't see the color of musical note C.
2) Your question is a non sequitur. I'd argue that you'd have show evidence that the musical note C even has a color.
This Atheist said, 'imagine there is a molecule that can replicate'.............That is circular reasoning because you can't have replication without evolution and yet you can't have evolution without replication. What a contradiction.
That's a really dumb comment. Obviously you can have replication without evolution. There's self replicating molecules all over the place, and they aren't alive. It's just chemistry. (granted, life i just chemistry as well, but a specific subgroup that is the result of self replication already happening anyway)
@@nagranoth_ Evolution explains Homology. Homology explains Evolution. It is circular reasoning. Deny, deny, deny...
It's amazing how blind these young people are.
It takes a lot of faith to be an atheist
Faith in reality
It takes ignorance to believe in supernatural.
So you believe that everything came from nothing? Sure
@@lchua4319 Actually, that's what you just brought to the table. We are known by our what?
Why do you think it came from nothing?
@@danpaulson927 We are known by our what?
You'd think if God wanted this man to preach his gospel he would have let him evolve a better speaking voice.
nah, because that would just be proof of evolution, lol, and Cliff can’t have that
Cliffe says a lot of incorrect things very convincingly.
Such as?
@@cgelly75 Just as 'something from nothing' is the problem with the big bang. The ideas of something from nothing come straight from the bible it is not in the big bang model or any scientific model..
Such as?
The design argument is incorrect. It is an assumption based on his understanding of man-made things that have a purpose. And a misunderstanding of basic biology.
The language argument (DNA is written or coded by a mind) is also incorrect.
Postulating a coder/creator works well for his religious narrative, but scientists who study these things don’t suddenly convert to believing in God. They don’t have a “eureka” moment where they suddenly see God’s hand. I’m one of them, and it just does not happen.
If you start with God you can see design. A very very flawed design.
@@ArchibaldRoon so what's your better assumption for the orderly way the universe was created than Cliffe's beliefs?
Ribosomes make all proteins so what made the first Ribosome which is made of protein. Answer that Atheists.
that's a science question, you clown. It has nothing to do with atheism, and it's not up to atheists to answer your science questions. Ask a science teacher or a scientist.
More than that, it's a question you can find the recent state of research for with a second of googling:
"The ribosome may have first originated as a protoribosome, possibly containing a peptidyl transferase centre (PTC), in an RNA world, appearing as a self-replicating complex that only later evolved the ability to synthesize proteins when amino acids began to appear."
How is it that you lot can never understand that just because something in biology works a certain way NOW, doesn't mean that's how it originated? While the one constant in biology is that life and it's processes have become more complex over time? How is it that you couldn't get to "maybe that's not how it originally worked" by yourself? How is it that you're too lazy to look up an answer yourself? It's because you don't want to get an answer, isn't it? You know how weak your position is, so you just throw out something you desperately hope is a gotcha if people don't pay too much attention, and sit there hoping no-one will respond.
I'll add to nagranoth's answer. Your question is a massive argument from ignorance. How is that you guys keep making the same mistakes is science and logic? We could absolutely know nothing about how life came to be so diversified on this planet and that still would not mean your disembodied sky wizard exists let alone created anything. Not knowing something is not an argument for your silly useful fictions!
@@nagranoth_ It has EVERYTHING to do with atheism. Only God can create Life. Only a Design Engineer of the Highest Order can create the DNA strand of a Human Being. DNA is subtractive, not additive. Monkey plus dolphin will not equal human. Look all around you. You have eyes but do you not see? Science was created by Catholics to discern God's divine hand in nature - a mission that it continues to fulfill with new discoveries of wonderment each year. To attribute these fingerprints to random chance is to deny reality.
But damn god came from nothing. So nothing can come from nothing.
Not true, God is eternal and was not created. On either side of time is only eternity.
In the beginning (time created) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter). They all were brought into existence together.
Even Ancient Greece had a an edification for God, The Unmoved Mover, The Uncaused Cause, absent any statue on an empty base in the hall of Greek gods. St. Paul famously encountered such while bringing the Gospel to Athens.
@@raymondgriffin9067 @raymondgriffin9067: “Not true, God is eternal and was not created”
What a silly and foolish man-created god by ignorant ancient desert-dwellers to control the people with fear of this malicious celestial tyrant.
He floats in nothing for billions and billions of years, for eternity and then 6,000 years ago he got a brilliant plan to create a universe, and in the universe, an insignificant speck of dust where he can create man in his image to rule as an evil and cruel tyrant, constantly punishing, killing and murdering people.
Damn is this foolish or is it stupid.
@@fortunatecookie9055 @fortunatecookie9055: “Even Ancient Greece had a an edification for God”
Exactly, this proves that all gods were man-created in their ignorance to understand climate, weather, geology and the natural mechanics of nature.
Now tell me how does your Greek edification, education, instructions, tuition, teaching, schooling and pedagogy prove that your cruel, evil and malevolent god is real?
Typical superstitious senseless gibberish and trash talk.
Is it safe to say that Cliffe does support the idea of evolution, as well as the existence of God?
Pierre Theilard de Chardin conciliated evolution with cristian faith
Evolution does not explain the origin of life.
it is safe to say that either Cliffe does not understand evolution and big bang cosmology or he is being deceitful. But are different but neither cosmology or the big bang make any claims about randomness or something from nothing.
@@criticalthinker8007 what do you mean, you’re saying the Big Bang doesn’t claim that nothing caused everything?
I don’t know how you wouldn’t support the idea of evolution, seems to clearly be a thing, at the same time evolution can’t create something from nothing so it doesn’t contradict his creationism
Cliffes problem is his assertion that the world is designed. We know design by comparing to nature. What nature did he compare creation too? And he's assuming reality is order & design. It's pure assumption
Because if there is no capacity for order than we must live in a constant flux which is contradictory to human experience
@thelobsterking1055 1) what does living in Flux mean?
2) how is that against the human experience?
@@brittzank8987 1) Living in a state of constant change
2) Human experience impossible without ability to know stuff and learn things. There is cannot be an ability for knowledge in a state of constant flux. There must be a stable physical and metaphysical foundation to reality.
@thelobsterking1055 depends on what you mean by "know" whether that statement is true. If u mean "know" as in 100% knowledge, we don't have that about anything.
If u just mean "know" as in it appears to be true based on all evidence, that doesn't require anything other than reality. Like law of non-contradiction doesn't require an external force to be a thing.
@@brittzank8987 reality itself is a metaphysical category. Tt depends on what foundation you grounding your reality. Where is the source of "real".
Cliffe...hasnt a clue......If he doesn't understand it, then it cant have happenned..about as knowledgeable as a 5th grader and thats why the video has ended early.
Something can not come from nothing, get over it.
@@user-zo4nk4uq7zshow me where anyone said that
@@user-zo4nk4uq7z Except for God, right?
@@user-zo4nk4uq7z Show me where any respectable scientist has ever said something came from nothing...and I dont mean someone with a degree in Psychology or divinity or bought their qualification from some non descript University like "Dr" Kent Hovind.
I feel like this video is being played on a loop…
' I do not know', 🤣 that was funny.
It must be true! The guy read it in a book! I read something on the Internet yesterday so I know that must be true too!
How do you know when something is true?
Peer reviewed evidence. Better than what Cliffe has to offer which is also from a book by the way.
@@Loading....99.99 depends on the subject I think. You can't discover the truth of gravity in the same way that you could discover if someone you are in love with, returns your affections
@@ArchibaldRoon actually it's a collection of 66 books, by over 40 authors.
It's all laughs and giggles until the book starts predicting future events.
Look at how hard man has to work to “imagine” facts that disprove the existence of a creator. And that imagination they have, how do they explain that in their models?
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, wouldn't you agree?
@@tomyossarian7681 no. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
@@Redeemer_80 And i said... what?
@@tomyossarian7681 I can help you by explaining it to you, but I can’t help you understand.
@@Redeemer_80 You don't have to explain, I am asking you to read what I've said.and address THAT, instead of making up a straw man.
Where did your silly god come from if something can't come from nothing.
Man it says multyple times in bible that god is eternal and that he doesnt have any beggining or end as jesus said "I AM"
@@blur.vfx. I do not care what that piece of horrible trash book says. I am an adult.
@@cervboy read what you said
Did you make sense?
@@cervboy maybe you can do better ,lets hear.
@@ericscaillet2232 Anyone can do better .Just stop believing in such nonsense of there being some god in the sky. What makes you think that this clown thinks he knows there is an actual god and it's real. Pathetic in this day and age.
How does he know there was nothing?
If the universe (time, matter, space, particles.. everything) had a beginning, what was before the beginning
@@Loading....99.99 The answer to that question is "I don't know." But just because I don't know doesn't mean you get to assert "god did it."
@@thatguyrich9822 “A commonsense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature.” - Fred Hoyle
@@Loading....99.99 Why would I care what Fred Hoyle has to say? His steady-state model is now rejected by cosmologists, astrophysicists, and astronomers. The observational evidence points to a hot Big Bang cosmology with a finite age of the universe.
@@thatguyrich9822Now how are we asserting God into this, when he was the one who literally putted us into existence.
Cliffe simply cannot get his tiny head around difficult concepts so he just reverts to default " There has to be a god". He hides from having to answer questions by asking questions himself. It is a shame the guy in the white shirt gets trapped into always answering Cliff's questions rather than persisting in getting an answer from Cliffe to HIS questions.
Cliffe also just makes statements to support his beliefs with no attempt to validate them. For instance " You cannot get design without an intelligence being involved" Of course you can. A function fitting a purpose does not necessarily have to be designed. The eye is a perfect example of this. We can see it wasn't designed, because we can see in the animal kingdom the gradual changes that led to the complex eye being formed, not created by design.
What I saw in this interview was the guy in the white shirt advancing theories for which he had no corroboration...conclusions in search of evidence.
@@benwolk2028 And creationist like Cliffe don't do that - LMAO!
what if it's a billion years? Then please wait for a billion years to prove if it's true
Personally I don't believe in Big Bang because we know that every bang gets into all directions and the distribution is equal, and it's not true especially in the case of Earth where the periodic table of elements itself is not equally distributed elsewhere, plus the complexity of the systems: blood, nerve, breathing, thinking, etc, could not just come from a bang, but an elaborate design of a Creator.
every bang does not go over evenly in every direction with equal distribution very rarely does that happen
In areas of space, there isn’t matter evenly distributed. So your argument goes right out the window, even infinitely small and full of mass, it wouldn’t be equally distributed. In a real explosion that doesn’t even happen.
Actually... Big bang is the best clue that God exists if scientist want to see it... From nothing -> booomm -> earth appears?
From nothing? Basically big bang is God creating our solar system from nothing. lol :D. So... They are right, but they just don't want to admit that the creation process is by God.
It's very sad that you were so badly served by the American education system.
@@burntgod7165 Does that actually exist?
God is a hoodwink by the greater mind, I know this as I was trained by God for 6 months, God is like a program, I am not allowed to believe anymore, its like a killswitch was hit on me, my mind was given a boost, now I am not alone in my thoughts, I am also better than most people at pool, ping pong, juggling, my impressions and music went up as well
I just waisted 8 minutes of my life🤦🏻♀️
How so?!!
Your not the only one....he's another Ray Comfort
How did you "waisted" 8 minutes of your life?
@@user-br6px6ok9x no sir… what makes you say this??
@@Loading....99.99 maybe its better than being knee deep
something form nothing? how about the big bang. Creative mechanism in evolution? it is called adaptation. The older guy is crazy.
So everything came from nothing?
The universe just randomly exploded into existence, from nothing (actual magic) , with all the laws of logic allowing for order and creative forces (coding of dna, cell memory). And now we're (humanity) pitted in a survival of the fittest race that ends in heat death... Who's narrative is crazy?
@@noelprez2895 I’m befuddled by the spawning of material from immaterial ideology as well.
What caused the Big Bang ?
But where did life come from?
It's magic -- I just appeared.
So what god created the universe? I am certainly sure it's not the one in the bible . That one is definitely man made.
You're full of confidence, so which one did?
@@Loading....99.99 If you read his comment carefully he is making no claim that any god created the universe. He is asserting that the god of the Christian bible is certainly not responsible, and is asking those that believe that a god created the universe to declare which one did. I expect that, like me, he does not believe that any god was responsible.
@@marcuscook3852 you're wrong, if you read his comment carefully he said 'i am certainly sure it's not the God in the bible' (as if it's possible that some other god did)
He also pinpointed 'that one (God) in the bible is definitely man made' (which gives the impression that the others are not.
And then he has no evidence to back up his claim.
@@Loading....99.99 My comment stands. Andrew made no indication that any god created anything. It does not follow that Andrew deems it possible that "some other god" did anything, or that he acknowledges the existence of any god. You are just being obtuse - is it deliberate?
How are you gonna say God in the Bible is man-made? Certainly Jesus Christ isn't man-made, because he lived on this world before, and many people claimed he is God. Not only that, but his name holds power that we cannot understand from. It's showing how reliable the Bible truly is, it's even predicting future events!
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Let me give you some infomation. The solar eclipse from 2024, goes through 7 cities named Nineveh, 7 year before that, was another solar eclipse in 2017, that goes through 7 cities named Salem, they both cross over the United States, forming an X on a place called "Little Egypt".
So 7 cities named Salem, which means peace. And then 7 years later, goes through 7 cities named Nineveh. You got 7, 7, and 7. Put them together, you get "777", which is the number of perfection, literally meaning God.
Not only that, but exactly three days before the solar eclipse of 2024, America got a very rare earthquake in New Jersey and New York. You know what else was 3 days? Jesus Christ's resurrection of the third day.
It's all coming together, so much in fact, many non-believers are becoming concerned that these events are pointing towards God, specifically Jesus Christ, the one from the Bible.
Meaning God in the Bible is not man-made, it's witnessed evidence in the world. People claimed to see God, they called him Jesus Christ.
The idea of a thiest educating anybody on anything is a complete joke!
Why believe gravity since it was proposed by a theist 🤷♀️
@@ndibunwapeter9013 Gravity can be proven!
@@cervboy now you're just contradicting yourself 👍
@@ndibunwapeter9013 In what way am I contradicting myself. And by the way if the theory of gravity was proposed by a thiest that does not mean a thing since almost everyone was suckered {indoctrinated] when they were poor young kids that didn't know any better. Child abuse!
@@ndibunwapeter9013this person really tryna argue that gravity isn’t real
The Miller-Urey Experiment proves that abiogenesis is in fact not ridiculous but a very statistically possible idea.
Its follow-on experiments with more accurate entering environment data have just kept adding to the viability of abiogenesis.
Abiogenesis is trash, non Life somehow for no reason created life, give me examples of abiogenesis with observable evidence.
@@ndibunwapeter9013 2 atoms of oxygen bond and form a molecule of oxygen for no reason whatsoever. Than the molecule of oxygen bonds with a hydrogen atom to form a molecule of water and so on...
This doesn't proof anything. It's just an opinion.
It proves evolution is not true.
0+0 = 0 for a reason
0^0 = 1 so i am not sure what you are trying to prove.
@@aidanya1336You don't get something from nothing.
@@BradCarlMusic of course not. Nothing doesn't even have a good definition within science. Since we usually define things by what they are and not by what they are not.
"nothing" as in the absence of everything isn't therefor even a coherent scientific concept.
This is why you only find it in philosophy and not in reality.
Even 0 in math is not the same as "nothing".
Can you give a single example of anyone ever experiencing, seeing or detecting "nothing"?
Anyway. Something from nothing isn't a thing i (or any atheists i know) believe happened.
Here is a fun exercise. everytime you hear someone say "something from nothing" check whether it is an atheist or a christian saying this. 99.99% of the time it will be a christian apologist talking about what atheists believe. Not an atheist talking about what they believe.
@@aidanya1336 And anytime you hear someone say "science" 99.9% of the time it's an atheist....
Cliff delusional in the extreme
No, he didn't. He shows his massive willful ignorance and stupidity.
can you get something from nothing....word salad that proves zero
Well apparently you can get God from nothing!
Same empty arguments that these religious people use to try to “prove” the existence of a supernatural being of their choice, according to the religion they profess. Wouldn’t be easier to ask your gif to show himself (it’s a man, right?) and that way we’ll know he is real….
The guy arguing has not a very single good point. He is only saying things that are not logically possible.
Holy moly. 1+1=2? Doesn't put money is his bank account? He has to put his money into a creator? What a madman
Cliffe is absolute trash
What does "you don't get something from nothing" have to do with the evolution of the eye? What an utterly irrelevant point. Cliff is just admitting he doesn't understand evolutionary biology lol.
I once got nothing from something