I love Peter’s work and have followed him for years, but i can’t stand fanboys overhyping what is clearly a marketing stunt. I appreciate sincere reviews like this one. I’m sure the PM bag is good, but is nowhere near to perfect, specially with that price tag.
Worth mentioning that the Nomatic design places the entire load of the bag on the rear zipper compartment. The shoulder straps are attached directly to the back panel. Imagine if the zippers blew while on your back. All your gear would dump out. Lowe pro’s design is more safe.
You are making an excellent point. The zippers do not even need to blow. There have been times that I have forgotten to zip the bag up all the way. With Lowepro, the gear will not fall out. With Nomadic, who knows.
I bought the Protactic 450 in part based on this video 3-years ago and I'm STILL using it. I use it daily and have brought it to 7 countries and it's carrying my 16" MBP, iPad Pro 12.9, DJI RSC2 Gimbal, Elgato Streamdeck, GoPro/Accessories and all kind of adapters and my DJI Air2S. I have it loaded out for photography or just hardcore work and I have been traveling 6-years in Se Asia. My point being, GREAT recommendation. I don't hear anyone talking about the Lowepro anymore but they should, it's still GREAT!
Over the last few days, I have looked at numerous TH-cam videos that review camera bags. After all this, I had narrowed my potential choices to the LowePro 450 AW II and the Nomatic Peter McKinnon bag. Once I watched your video, my mind was made up. The Lowepro is a better choice for me. The price difference didn't scare me off, but when you illustrated the difference in the depth of the bags, that was the clincher. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video. It certainly helped me! Best wishes! Lou from Georgia.
lowepro has always been my first choice when it comes to functional gear bag, just extremely well thought out. quality has been dropped a little bit in recent years though, but for that price, I wouldnt mind upgrading it every couple of years
Glad I found this video! Thank you TH-cam algorithm lol pretty sure this has finalized my decision for the Lowepro bag. I would have to agree with what others have said, I just don't see a $400 value when looking at the Nomatic bag. I'm sure it's a great bag, but $400?
As soon as I saw he put a glide cam on the bag I was like “yup I’m buying that bag rn, secured the BAG”. I was high key boutta drop 400 on the nomadic bag too
I bought the lowpro protactic 450 aw bag v1 4 years ago, and still strong. Only the zipper was damaged and I fixed it by replacing it in a local store that cost me 1$. Low pro tactic aw 450 ii is great bag.
Thanks Nick. This was a great video. One think I think it will be very helpful for Red Camara Fans is to see how you pack a Red Camera Set Up on your backpack. I have been looking for this video and one has it. Hopefully you will be into making that video. Looking forward to it.
There are so many types of camera bags in the world. I also bought a camera bag the other day! I couldn't fit all the equipment and it was a lot of work ♬ The video was a lot of fun! I will come to play again. With love from Japan :)
the nomatic backpack is basically a donation to peter mckinnon. my dad and I bought too many camera bags and they're all kinda riffing off each other so there's always an affordable version of whatever bag you're looking at. the mckinnon bag is obviously a designer bag cuz it has his name on it so yeah finding a 200$ bag similar or better isn't surprising.
Nice video man. I had my eyes on both and while I don't carry the same stuff as you do (I often bring around square NDs, grads, etc. for landscaping) I can see how better it is to get the Lowepro. The review sounded honest AND real (like you ACTUALLY tried the bags and found what worked best). I'll give a thumbs up and sub ;) Cheers
Nick, you sold my on the Lowepro. They should pay you for doing a great job explaining why this bag is so good. I am a Tenba guy with a bunch of other bags from other manufacturers. I am not too crazy about the new Tenba offerings, so this Lowepro is my next bag. The two external lens pouches will come in handy on my shoots.
YES THE DEPTH OF THE BAG - I received mine a couple of days ago and immediately I realised that I couldn't put my A7IV with a battery grip on it standing up as well as not being able to fit my 24 - 70 standing end to end. I have the V1 of the Lowepro and this is something I guess I took for granted but is something of a deal breaker for me. I find it a bit strange that PM wouldn't have it deeper seeing as he's been using Canon cameras with grips on them for years which wouldn't fit? I also find the bags straps pretty uncomfortable so am sending it back. It's a shame because looking at the feature list and testing it out I'd say it's about 80 - 85% there to being right on the money
Hi there, I was looking for a bag that would fit my Canon EOS R and 24-105 RF f4 Lens as well as a gimbal. Your review really helped and I have just ordered the bag a minute ago. Thank you.
Wow! I almost backed the Peter Mckinnon bag on Kickstarter! Kickstarter price of $300(retail $400) was too pricey for me! Glad I waited! :) thanks for showing me this great new bag!
I have a LowePro Slingshot that I’ve taken all over the world. The company’s outdoor/backpacking roots seem to filter down into high quality gear that I know will last, at a reasonable price. With the Nomatic, you’re paying for branding and gimmicky features. LowePro is hands down a better bag company, especially if you buy one from REI.
Nice video! My two cents: two completely different bags - unfair to compare them really. There is a reason the PM bag is higher in price. Materials and versatility. It's a weekend bag for the travelling photographer, but if you're JUST wanting a camera bag then the PM is NOT what you should have ordered.
The PM bag is technically, but i'm not sure if it's practically, more versatile. Wouldn't travellers have a separate bag/case for clothing? Particularly with carry-on weight and size restrictions which are tighter if you travel through Europe. If you want a premium bag with bondable, thermoformed fabric, and YKK zippers for travel Shimoda's Explore V2, Wndrd's Prvke V2, and F-Stop's range are probably lighter and more versatile genreal travel companions.
I think the thing is if PM was not as popular as he is, his bag would likely still be priced at or under $200 no matter how it is made. I love PM and think he is great but his bags, both of them are overpriced.
Not gonna lie, I already had a bias against the Lowepro bag compared to the Nomatic x Peter McKinnon but it quickly dissipated once you mentioned the depth. I had no idea the Nomatic bag was that shallow though I like for it’s other pockets and storage features. Good vid and thanks for bringing that MAJOR feature for me to my attention.
I have to disagree with some points here. The nomatic bag is clearly not designed to be a camera bag only. And many cameras nowadays have decently small lenses. I never had a problem with that obviously with my MFT setup. The waist strap comes off on the nomatic bag as well, and not to mention the other accessory you can buy for the nomatic bag which is the smaller bag for drones. Which I use constantly. So... I mean... Not that fair in my opinion. Just different experiences for different users.
In fairness, the McKinnon bag is essentially waterproof. It doesn't require a rain fly at all. They threw in one you can buy if you just want to be that sure. But the depth of that bag is just a non starter.
The protactic 450, which i own, was also $400 when it came out....in 2018. the AW 450II is a very minimal refresh and theres near no difference between version 1 and 2, save for the inner pads and shape of the exterior turtle shell.
I literally got the Lowepro for 36$ new, so it was a totally yes for this one instead of paying for a 400$ semi-camera bag which is still good but who is more fun to use as a travel and camera bag instead of having a full dedicated bag for my gear
Just stumbled across this video as I was researching something else and I have both these bags - just wanted to chime in and say I absolutely agree with you. The Peter McKinnon nomatic bag was incredibly disappointing. And the point about the smaller ProTactic bag being able to carry more gear than the nomatic bag with the first immediate surprising problem I noticed when comparing them. Super misleading. Side note, I was finally able to stop using my Protactic a few months ago when my Shimoda Explore v2 was delivered. It's a friggin' incredible bag.
Dude if you learn how to pack you'd fit the lenses & monitor in the Nomatic bag...and I have the Protactic bag and love it...but you just were stick things anyway without thinking!
Yeah, I agree! I mean yes the LowPro bag is deeper, but the PM backpack can store all his gear, he just didn't think smartly about how to do it. There's plenty of space to place his monitor, and his camera body and lenes could easily be laid in a different position.
Does your course show in camera settings to get a specific shot and i mean for example (f2.8 1/50 shutter iso 200) ive been having trouble in sum cases
The lowepro is an amazing bag. I have it and it can hold almost all of my gear, including a 150-600. The only downside is that it doesn't comply with the latest carry-on regulations regarding size.. This is why I'm looking for a deep bag that can hold almost all my gear but still fit on a plane :)
I was gonna ask if u could take the side flaps bc I'd think they're kinda annoying but it blew my mind when I saw what I could do with them. My only concern is that a didn't see a laptop pocket in the backpack. Another feature I saw in another backpack is that when u open it up it has another layer of protection so things won't fall out. Lastly are the backpacks weather proof? I find annoying to pull up a bag to cover the backpack when it should be weather proof already.
I'd prefer a separate bag for my gadgets and my clothes. When traveling, you really wouldn't bring your clothing around with you, unless you're kinda camping around with it. Usually you'd just leave your clothing at the hotel/motel/boutique and then go out and about with your itineraries.
The Lowepro 450 ist a huge camera bag with tons of space. Its made for carrying your camera gear, thats it. Not much comfort, but fully functional. I own the 450 (such as the 250 btw). The Nomatic is more than a simple camera bag. Its for travelling with your camera gear. Therefore its got some additional space, thats the very point. No chance to use a 450 for travelling without any additional bag or case. In my view, it doesnt make much sense to compare both bags, as they are made for different needs. However i agree when its comes to the price. Nice review though! Greetings :-)
That’s the point but I would recommend my friends to get a suitcases instead of this bag, even for a 4 days traveling because this bag can’t event fit one of my winter vest 😂
There is a rain cover in na extra bag for the Nomatic. Not build in like the lowepro, but I got this tiny extra bag with my Nomatic Peter McKinnon. But I think you don't need it because the Nomatic is made of water resisting material.
I mean it kinda sounds like you didn’t fully research the bag before buying it then regretted it when you realized it wasn’t what you wanted. The last part however was really cool on LowPro’s part I do love me some accessories!
I am not here to hate But unless you didn't know the depth issue with the nomatic bag when purchasing most typical bags arent made to house a pro body like a 1DX like shown in the video. When buying you should have looked if it was able to house a pro body like that. But it was just a thought of mine. I love your content tho!
The thing is the pm bag is for travel and photography where as the Lowe pro is for camera stuff only and for a travel and photography bag the pm bag is amazing. And as you said you don’t need clothes on your shoots than the pm bag is just not made for you which doesn’t mean it’s a bad bag
And he never said it was. All he kept harping on was, for that price, it wasn't even better than the bag which suited HIS NEEDS. The PMK x Nomatic bag suits the needs of many other people, many of them former owners of the Lowepro, so, horses for courses.
@@MrPhilbautista Yeah but I cant remember since its been 4 days since I watched it I do belive he did say he dosnt reccomend the pm bag or somthing along the lines of that I might be wrong though
I don't agree with this video. For starters, the bags are for different people/purposes. I own the lowepro but I'm not really happy with it, and somewhat thinking about the nomatic. I also feel like you didn't research the nomatic bag at all. But here are my problems with your video: 1. Depth. This is the thing that holds me back from the nomatic since I use a battery grip, but you exchange the depth for the ability to pack clothes etc. If you compare the exterior and internal dimensions of the bags it's pretty obvious. The lowepro fits camera gear somewhat amazingly, but you cant pack clothes, water, food etc for shit. 2. The comfort. I haven't tried the nomatic bag so I can't disagree with you here, but it feels like the nomatic should win bigger because of the smaller straps on top of your shoulder-straps. I have those on my f-stop tilopa and they are amazing. 3. Accessibility. Again, different bags for different people. Since the nomatic bag have way more compartments it can be argued that that bag have an edge, depending on what you want to grab from your bag. 4. The rain fly, not much to be said but you could have mentioned that you can buy it for the nomatic bag (it's not cheap tho). I also kinda dislike the placement of the rainfly on the lowepro because it keeps the bag from standing upright by its self. 5. Storage space. Here is where I disliked your video the most. If you go to the nomatic website, one of the big things they write about the bag is "35L TO 42L EXPANSION". How that is "misleading" is beyond me. And every. single. video. about this bag shows that. 6. Accessories. Again, not much to be said but you didn't even mentioned that you could buy some great stuff for the nomatic bag, and if you buy it all in the bundle the price isn't that crazy. (Also, remember that you don't have to buy ALL the accessories..) "And the nomatic bag gives you two straps that you don't even know where to put them" Dude.... Tripod? Attach things to the outside, in the lowepro-like-straps, on the outside, just like on the lowepro bag? Again, not much research went into your purchase. The things I dislike about my lowepro are how the inside curves, making it really annoying if you want to put something square in the corner in a tight space, and that I don't fit any stuff beyond my camera gear. If I'm lucky I can get a water bottle in it and a jacket. (If you put your water bottle on the outside, like the tripod, I'm pretty sure the rainfly won't close, so that's a trade off to be aware of.) If you (the viewer) want a bag that only fits your camera gear and you need the depth, go with the lowepro, but if you want to pack more stuff, go with the nomatic (or any other bag). And i probably need to say this, since it's the internet, I'm not a McKinnon fanboy. But this video was, for me, wrong, uneducated and misleading.
Spot on, on every point. This guys smart though.. buy a PM bag don’t even use it or put any effort into researching it’s intended use ....do a video on said bag you’re put no effort into reviewing make a profit off the views on the video then probably sell said bag
I had both too. Kept my Lowepro bp450. Much better bag and for half the price. I wanted to like the PM bag, and did, but decided I could get more for less without losing quality
This is a good review but anyone watching this should keep in mind that the bags are made with two different purposes in mind. If all you want is a gear/camera bag then yes you are correct nomatic is not the bag for you but if you want to take gear with you while you travel maybe on a weekend trip or maybe a little longer then the nomatic has you covered two different purposes in my opinion just depends on what you are looking for personally
Im not even a photographer and i got my eye on the LowePro - (scoping the Shimoda Action30 as well) but i love that the LowePro has the tactical molly webbing for in the moment add on capability- i wish the LowePro had a few more liters :/
Although I don't have an opinion on the bags, I will say that this entire review felt slightly biased. I don't know if it was just me, but it felt like he wanted the Lowepro to win.
The only thing that I don’t like for the nomadic is the depth. I love the ability to put some clothes in. If the lowepro can do that I’d be all for it! Also, guess what pete used before he designed his? Oh that’s right the lowepro.
What camera bag do you use?
Lowepro BP 450, great bag!
Travel backpack of Peak design 😊
I’m using the Lowepro 450AW (first generation). Love the military look and how customizable it is.
80L F-Stop Shinn, Pretty much the closest thing to a perfect backpack for cinema cameras.
I'm actually in the market to get my first legit camera bag, thank you so much! Will be buying this!
I love Peter’s work and have followed him for years, but i can’t stand fanboys overhyping what is clearly a marketing stunt. I appreciate sincere reviews like this one. I’m sure the PM bag is good, but is nowhere near to perfect, specially with that price tag.
If PM bag was cheaper, then I'd be just right, but like you said, it's really expensive considering what you don't get compared to competitors.
Haha Peter Mcbulls@€t
@@hiskishow rude
Him: “a steal at $190”
Me: *cries in broke*
I bought mine for $167 @ Amazon
@@SmokinBuddha in Croatia these bags are 285€ 🥲
Two different propositions: camerabag vs travel/camera hybrid. Also one zipper is almost waterproof, the other is not. Technically great video though.
Worth mentioning that the Nomatic design places the entire load of the bag on the rear zipper compartment. The shoulder straps are attached directly to the back panel. Imagine if the zippers blew while on your back. All your gear would dump out. Lowe pro’s design is more safe.
You are making an excellent point. The zippers do not even need to blow. There have been times that I have forgotten to zip the bag up all the way. With Lowepro, the gear will not fall out. With Nomadic, who knows.
So where does the Lowepro place the load of the bag?
@@Sir-Kay On the top part of the bag. It's safer that way even if you don't zip your bag all the way up. You can see it at 2:02
I've had my eyes on the Nomatic bag for quite a while now, so it was super interesting to see this comparison!
I bought the Protactic 450 in part based on this video 3-years ago and I'm STILL using it. I use it daily and have brought it to 7 countries and it's carrying my 16" MBP, iPad Pro 12.9, DJI RSC2 Gimbal, Elgato Streamdeck, GoPro/Accessories and all kind of adapters and my DJI Air2S. I have it loaded out for photography or just hardcore work and I have been traveling 6-years in Se Asia. My point being, GREAT recommendation. I don't hear anyone talking about the Lowepro anymore but they should, it's still GREAT!
the last time I purchased a camera back i spent 60 bucks. Now I gotta live with one kidney?!
No. There are still a lot of great options at your price range, as long as you can live without the hype.
Over the last few days, I have looked at numerous TH-cam videos that review camera bags. After all this, I had narrowed my potential choices to the LowePro 450 AW II and the Nomatic Peter McKinnon bag. Once I watched your video, my mind was made up. The Lowepro is a better choice for me. The price difference didn't scare me off, but when you illustrated the difference in the depth of the bags, that was the clincher. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video. It certainly helped me! Best wishes! Lou from Georgia.
lowepro has always been my first choice when it comes to functional gear bag, just extremely well thought out. quality has been dropped a little bit in recent years though, but for that price, I wouldnt mind upgrading it every couple of years
Thank you so much. This is probably the clearest review of the Protactic 450 I've seen.
Thank you! I was just looking at both of these bags.
This review is great! Thanks Nick.
This is the exact vid I was looking for, I couldn’t decide between the 2 but this is a no brainer now. Thank you
You won't regret getting the Lowepro 350/450. I own them and some Shimoda, Tenba bags. These are the professional ones in this field.
Glad I found this video! Thank you TH-cam algorithm lol pretty sure this has finalized my decision for the Lowepro bag. I would have to agree with what others have said, I just don't see a $400 value when looking at the Nomatic bag. I'm sure it's a great bag, but $400?
Thanks
Looking for the best one atm.
peter mckinnon be like: hold up.
As soon as I saw he put a glide cam on the bag I was like “yup I’m buying that bag rn, secured the BAG”. I was high key boutta drop 400 on the nomadic bag too
Hey nick! Great video man just wanted to let you know that you definitely sold me on getting the low pro bag haha
Thanks for the good comparison
Can this bag fix in panasonic agux180 camcorder. Thanks.
Does your Lowepro have a Peter Mckinnon signature logo and a pirate life logo? 🤨
Jk
lol
LOL Good one, we all want to pay $200+ for such an amazing detail haha
That was the deal breaker for me. If it did, I would have paid $300 more. Yes, I was kidding.
It doesn’t but positive point about that is that it made it 200$ cheaper on a lot of website though 😂
Hi! Airlines let you keep your camera gear as carry-on? Thanks
thanks Nick, great video... really helped me decide . appreciate it
Ironic, the Lowepro is what PM left to use his own bag because he wanted a camera bag that could carry clothes
If I can like this video 10 times I would. Great video
I have 2 of the Lowepro Tactic bags. They do the job well for the price.
how is it when compared to Lowepro tactic 450 AW II?
I love this comparison as it is very detailed. Earned a subscriber for his vid. Keep it up!!
You're the man, Nick! Keep the content coming! We thank you.
I bought the lowpro protactic 450 aw bag v1 4 years ago, and still strong.
Only the zipper was damaged and I fixed it by replacing it in a local store that cost me 1$.
Low pro tactic aw 450 ii is great bag.
subscribed for an honest and concise review.
Thanks Nick. This was a great video. One think I think it will be very helpful for Red Camara Fans is to see how you pack a Red Camera Set Up on your backpack. I have been looking for this video and one has it. Hopefully you will be into making that video. Looking forward to it.
how about water proof shimoda bags?
That colour grade looks neat. Tutorial please? 😁
Loved your video! Quick question. Why is $195 on Amazon but on their website it’s $370??
There are so many types of camera bags in the world. I also bought a camera bag the other day! I couldn't fit all the equipment and it was a lot of work ♬ The video was a lot of fun! I will come to play again. With love from Japan :)
the nomatic backpack is basically a donation to peter mckinnon. my dad and I bought too many camera bags and they're all kinda riffing off each other so there's always an affordable version of whatever bag you're looking at. the mckinnon bag is obviously a designer bag cuz it has his name on it so yeah finding a 200$ bag similar or better isn't surprising.
Is there anywhere to put my laptop, though?
Nice video man. I had my eyes on both and while I don't carry the same stuff as you do (I often bring around square NDs, grads, etc. for landscaping) I can see how better it is to get the Lowepro. The review sounded honest AND real (like you ACTUALLY tried the bags and found what worked best). I'll give a thumbs up and sub ;)
Cheers
Nick, you sold my on the Lowepro. They should pay you for doing a great job explaining why this bag is so good. I am a Tenba guy with a bunch of other bags from other manufacturers. I am not too crazy about the new Tenba offerings, so this Lowepro is my next bag. The two external lens pouches will come in handy on my shoots.
YES THE DEPTH OF THE BAG - I received mine a couple of days ago and immediately I realised that I couldn't put my A7IV with a battery grip on it standing up as well as not being able to fit my 24 - 70 standing end to end. I have the V1 of the Lowepro and this is something I guess I took for granted but is something of a deal breaker for me. I find it a bit strange that PM wouldn't have it deeper seeing as he's been using Canon cameras with grips on them for years which wouldn't fit? I also find the bags straps pretty uncomfortable so am sending it back. It's a shame because looking at the feature list and testing it out I'd say it's about 80 - 85% there to being right on the money
Hi there, I was looking for a bag that would fit my Canon EOS R and 24-105 RF f4 Lens as well as a gimbal. Your review really helped and I have just ordered the bag a minute ago. Thank you.
Wow! I almost backed the Peter Mckinnon bag on Kickstarter! Kickstarter price of $300(retail $400) was too pricey for me! Glad I waited! :) thanks for showing me this great new bag!
Great video. Helpful.
I have a LowePro Slingshot that I’ve taken all over the world. The company’s outdoor/backpacking roots seem to filter down into high quality gear that I know will last, at a reasonable price. With the Nomatic, you’re paying for branding and gimmicky features. LowePro is hands down a better bag company, especially if you buy one from REI.
Purfeeect!!!! Thank you
Great to hear a counterpoint to Pete’s nomadic bag. Too many reviewers seem connected to him or nomadic.
Appreciate the insights! Just stumbled onto your channel today :)
Dylan Coleman I appreciate the kind words!
i used wandrd but zipper just broken .. looking for new bag..
Nice job You sold me I'm buying one
Nice video! My two cents: two completely different bags - unfair to compare them really. There is a reason the PM bag is higher in price. Materials and versatility. It's a weekend bag for the travelling photographer, but if you're JUST wanting a camera bag then the PM is NOT what you should have ordered.
The PM bag is technically, but i'm not sure if it's practically, more versatile. Wouldn't travellers have a separate bag/case for clothing? Particularly with carry-on weight and size restrictions which are tighter if you travel through Europe. If you want a premium bag with bondable, thermoformed fabric, and YKK zippers for travel Shimoda's Explore V2, Wndrd's Prvke V2, and F-Stop's range are probably lighter and more versatile genreal travel companions.
This is exactly what my thoughts are.
I think the thing is if PM was not as popular as he is, his bag would likely still be priced at or under $200 no matter how it is made. I love PM and think he is great but his bags, both of them are overpriced.
Has anyone compared the Lowepro 450 and the PYGTech Onemo 25L bags? I've narrowed things down to these two for my next bag.
Not gonna lie, I already had a bias against the Lowepro bag compared to the Nomatic x Peter McKinnon but it quickly dissipated once you mentioned the depth. I had no idea the Nomatic bag was that shallow though I like for it’s other pockets and storage features.
Good vid and thanks for bringing that MAJOR feature for me to my attention.
The link shows the bag as 222$ where can I get for 190$?
I have to disagree with some points here. The nomatic bag is clearly not designed to be a camera bag only. And many cameras nowadays have decently small lenses. I never had a problem with that obviously with my MFT setup. The waist strap comes off on the nomatic bag as well, and not to mention the other accessory you can buy for the nomatic bag which is the smaller bag for drones. Which I use constantly. So... I mean... Not that fair in my opinion. Just different experiences for different users.
Well done , Greetings from Germany
In fairness, the McKinnon bag is essentially waterproof. It doesn't require a rain fly at all. They threw in one you can buy if you just want to be that sure. But the depth of that bag is just a non starter.
Awesome video. I own the same bag but the 450. Been considering the nomadic pmk bag but depth is key.
Subscribed only for honesty
Appreciate the sub!
Thank you for this review, I think I will go with the Nomatic as I think it is the perfect camera/travel pack for a weekend trip.
I made a good decision, Bought the lowepro 450 aw II.😁
The protactic 450, which i own, was also $400 when it came out....in 2018. the AW 450II is a very minimal refresh and theres near no difference between version 1 and 2, save for the inner pads and shape of the exterior turtle shell.
I literally got the Lowepro for 36$ new, so it was a totally yes for this one instead of paying for a 400$ semi-camera bag which is still good but who is more fun to use as a travel and camera bag instead of having a full dedicated bag for my gear
Just stumbled across this video as I was researching something else and I have both these bags - just wanted to chime in and say I absolutely agree with you. The Peter McKinnon nomatic bag was incredibly disappointing. And the point about the smaller ProTactic bag being able to carry more gear than the nomatic bag with the first immediate surprising problem I noticed when comparing them. Super misleading.
Side note, I was finally able to stop using my Protactic a few months ago when my Shimoda Explore v2 was delivered. It's a friggin' incredible bag.
I need a bag for a RED V-RAPTOR 2 lens, monitor, batteries and cage - Anyone? Will the Lowepro work?
Dude if you learn how to pack you'd fit the lenses & monitor in the Nomatic bag...and I have the Protactic bag and love it...but you just were stick things anyway without thinking!
Yeah, I agree! I mean yes the LowPro bag is deeper, but the PM backpack can store all his gear, he just didn't think smartly about how to do it. There's plenty of space to place his monitor, and his camera body and lenes could easily be laid in a different position.
I like you. Thanks for the hard work in this video. I appreciate the insight. Liked and Subbed!
How many bodies and lenses can you fit in the LowePro. I have 2 bodies and 4 lenses?
Yeah that would for sure fit!
Does your course show in camera settings to get a specific shot and i mean for example (f2.8 1/50 shutter iso 200) ive been having trouble in sum cases
TVBeats The Nightmare King yessir it does 🙌🏼
Nick Sales thanks bro that’s definitely gonna help with certain scenarios
The lowepro is an amazing bag. I have it and it can hold almost all of my gear, including a 150-600. The only downside is that it doesn't comply with the latest carry-on regulations regarding size.. This is why I'm looking for a deep bag that can hold almost all my gear but still fit on a plane :)
Hey Nick Great channel. subbed
I was gonna ask if u could take the side flaps bc I'd think they're kinda annoying but it blew my mind when I saw what I could do with them. My only concern is that a didn't see a laptop pocket in the backpack. Another feature I saw in another backpack is that when u open it up it has another layer of protection so things won't fall out. Lastly are the backpacks weather proof? I find annoying to pull up a bag to cover the backpack when it should be weather proof already.
I'd prefer a separate bag for my gadgets and my clothes. When traveling, you really wouldn't bring your clothing around with you, unless you're kinda camping around with it. Usually you'd just leave your clothing at the hotel/motel/boutique and then go out and about with your itineraries.
like most people realize it is a marketing thing. Selling it as one bag for all cameras and clothes, but nobody ever really will use it like that.
The Lowepro 450 ist a huge camera bag with tons of space. Its made for carrying your camera gear, thats it. Not much comfort, but fully functional. I own the 450 (such as the 250 btw). The Nomatic is more than a simple camera bag. Its for travelling with your camera gear. Therefore its got some additional space, thats the very point. No chance to use a 450 for travelling without any additional bag or case. In my view, it doesnt make much sense to compare both bags, as they are made for different needs. However i agree when its comes to the price. Nice review though! Greetings :-)
That’s the point but I would recommend my friends to get a suitcases instead of this bag, even for a 4 days traveling because this bag can’t event fit one of my winter vest 😂
There is a rain cover in na extra bag for the Nomatic. Not build in like the lowepro, but I got this tiny extra bag with my Nomatic Peter McKinnon. But I think you don't need it because the Nomatic is made of water resisting material.
outter compartment fits a gimball on the nomatic.
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This was great! Thank you
I mean it kinda sounds like you didn’t fully research the bag before buying it then regretted it when you realized it wasn’t what you wanted. The last part however was really cool on LowPro’s part I do love me some accessories!
Excelent review. Thanks. This help me to the decision!
Lowepro it is....... Thanks Nick !
I am not here to hate But unless you didn't know the depth issue with the nomatic bag when purchasing most typical bags arent made to house a pro body like a 1DX like shown in the video. When buying you should have looked if it was able to house a pro body like that. But it was just a thought of mine. I love your content tho!
What's the difference between full-time filmmaker and pro filmmaker
They're pretty similar, but Pro Filmmaker will be around half the price and go a little bit more in depth on a few topics.
The thing is the pm bag is for travel and photography where as the Lowe pro is for camera stuff only and for a travel and photography bag the pm bag is amazing. And as you said you don’t need clothes on your shoots than the pm bag is just not made for you which doesn’t mean it’s a bad bag
And he never said it was. All he kept harping on was, for that price, it wasn't even better than the bag which suited HIS NEEDS. The PMK x Nomatic bag suits the needs of many other people, many of them former owners of the Lowepro, so, horses for courses.
@@MrPhilbautista Yeah but I cant remember since its been 4 days since I watched it I do belive he did say he dosnt reccomend the pm bag or somthing along the lines of that I might be wrong though
Ive had my LowePro 450 for over a year now and i had no idea it had a hidden pouch in the bottom with a rain cover lmao. My mind is blown right now
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I don't agree with this video. For starters, the bags are for different people/purposes. I own the lowepro but I'm not really happy with it, and somewhat thinking about the nomatic. I also feel like you didn't research the nomatic bag at all. But here are my problems with your video:
1. Depth. This is the thing that holds me back from the nomatic since I use a battery grip, but you exchange the depth for the ability to pack clothes etc. If you compare the exterior and internal dimensions of the bags it's pretty obvious. The lowepro fits camera gear somewhat amazingly, but you cant pack clothes, water, food etc for shit.
2. The comfort. I haven't tried the nomatic bag so I can't disagree with you here, but it feels like the nomatic should win bigger because of the smaller straps on top of your shoulder-straps. I have those on my f-stop tilopa and they are amazing.
3. Accessibility. Again, different bags for different people. Since the nomatic bag have way more compartments it can be argued that that bag have an edge, depending on what you want to grab from your bag.
4. The rain fly, not much to be said but you could have mentioned that you can buy it for the nomatic bag (it's not cheap tho). I also kinda dislike the placement of the rainfly on the lowepro because it keeps the bag from standing upright by its self.
5. Storage space. Here is where I disliked your video the most. If you go to the nomatic website, one of the big things they write about the bag is "35L TO 42L EXPANSION". How that is "misleading" is beyond me. And every. single. video. about this bag shows that.
6. Accessories. Again, not much to be said but you didn't even mentioned that you could buy some great stuff for the nomatic bag, and if you buy it all in the bundle the price isn't that crazy. (Also, remember that you don't have to buy ALL the accessories..)
"And the nomatic bag gives you two straps that you don't even know where to put them" Dude.... Tripod? Attach things to the outside, in the lowepro-like-straps, on the outside, just like on the lowepro bag? Again, not much research went into your purchase.
The things I dislike about my lowepro are how the inside curves, making it really annoying if you want to put something square in the corner in a tight space, and that I don't fit any stuff beyond my camera gear. If I'm lucky I can get a water bottle in it and a jacket. (If you put your water bottle on the outside, like the tripod, I'm pretty sure the rainfly won't close, so that's a trade off to be aware of.)
If you (the viewer) want a bag that only fits your camera gear and you need the depth, go with the lowepro, but if you want to pack more stuff, go with the nomatic (or any other bag).
And i probably need to say this, since it's the internet, I'm not a McKinnon fanboy. But this video was, for me, wrong, uneducated and misleading.
Spot on, on every point. This guys smart though.. buy a PM bag don’t even use it or put any effort into researching it’s intended use ....do a video on said bag you’re put no effort into reviewing make a profit off the views on the video then probably sell said bag
I had a bag but wasent deep for my nikon with batterygrip on and i got a new that was deeeep
Interesting point of view. But these are two backpacks made for different things.
such a genuine review!!!
Informative
I love your sincerely ❤️. Good job
I bought Vanguard alta 62T, such a mistake because it has no straps. Otherwise it feels like bestbuy bag for my wedding photography.
I had both too. Kept my Lowepro bp450. Much better bag and for half the price. I wanted to like the PM bag, and did, but decided I could get more for less without losing quality
This is a good review but anyone watching this should keep in mind that the bags are made with two different purposes in mind. If all you want is a gear/camera bag then yes you are correct nomatic is not the bag for you but if you want to take gear with you while you travel maybe on a weekend trip or maybe a little longer then the nomatic has you covered two different purposes in my opinion just depends on what you are looking for personally
Im not even a photographer and i got my eye on the LowePro - (scoping the Shimoda Action30 as well) but i love that the LowePro has the tactical molly webbing for in the moment add on capability- i wish the LowePro had a few more liters :/
Although I don't have an opinion on the bags, I will say that this entire review felt slightly biased. I don't know if it was just me, but it felt like he wanted the Lowepro to win.
the material of the nomatic bag is water resistant. so no need for a rain cover. but decent bag for 195.
for every bag Nomatic sells, $200 goes to Peter's account 😂
The only thing that I don’t like for the nomadic is the depth. I love the ability to put some clothes in. If the lowepro can do that I’d be all for it! Also, guess what pete used before he designed his? Oh that’s right the lowepro.
Any bag in the world can hold clothes LOL even a plastic shopping bag, you don't need to pay an extra $200 for that feature