So happy you've come around to this guy! I'm a Michigan fan but Stroud can be scarily accurate in the pocket. That semi-final game really opened alot of eyes to what his ceiling could be.
these more narrative/story-telling breakdown style videos are probably my favorite content you’ve ever put out, and that’s saying a lot given how good everything is. Can’t wait for the next one.
To see how far these videos have come over the years is amazing. They were always good. And the analysis has always been on point. But the quality of the content visually now is outstanding. Must take ages to produce. It's worth it.
I think CJ Stroud is going to be the best of the 2023 bunch. One assumes that Ohio State quarterbacks have it far too easy due to the insane amount of talent that is generally surrounding them. That it’s just a member of “point and click” for quarterbacks. The same is often said about Alabama quarterbacks.
I love watching Stroud clips. I often try to find Aaron Rodgers flaws (Packer fan here) and keep noticing Rodgers not wanting to go to the middle. He made a career out of the sideline back shoulder throw and was OK with following Adams due to Adams incredible ability. However, this past season, where developing communication with receivers was a clear need he seems to not have the confidence (or ability) in seeing the middle guy. It looks to me like Stroud, another of those accurate passes, may be able to achieve it. At least it will be interesting to watch him in the NFL. I would pick him if I were GM.
He might not ever be top 3, but he can definitely be elite and win a ring. Hopefully Fields develops more and Stroud can get in a good spot so the OSU QB narrative changes
I would love to see Stroud wind up in Carolina. Reich, Jim Caldwell, and Josh McCown is a nice trio of coaches to develop him + they have a solid offensive line already in place.
Great video Marcus! In my scouting report video, I called him one of the most complicated QB prospects I’ve ever scouted because like you mention, he has shown the ability to do pretty much everything, just has to be much better at consistently showing all of those skills and traits
I like the 'more athletic Jared Goff' projection. Could crush it in structure with the right weapons and O-line around him (will be challenge wherever he ends up in). But ultimately the team will look for him to improve his reads pre/post snap and the consistency of his accuracy. Along with hopefully utilizing the strengths for passing in between the hashes and being able to drop a pretty deep ball. That said he will only realize that potential as good as he can with a team that believes in building the offense around him.
At 9:33 on the Mesh play, you said Stroud missed the play. But if you notice, the safety was all over that from the jump. I think that is the reason he looked it off.
I'm very pleased that you're seeing the growth from Stroud, that I've gone up to bat for him on twitter because of, as someone who was also low on Stroud going into the season and after the Notre Dame game. He's a different beast now and is the best QB prospect to come out of Ohio State IMO. Still behind Bryce but it's a top 3 talent versus a top 5-10 talent
Those early season mesh throws were on the receivers IMO. Egbuka in particular had a significant adjustment period in reading coverages once he had to take on the JSN role.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy yeah. But it's mesh. "Open" in mesh is totally reliant on the WR reading the coverage right. QB's get some ugly looking misses in this if the WR misreads leverage, or fails to sit down/run away from coverage correctly.
I don't even know how much of an adjustment it was for Egbuka as much as CJ getting used to the speed of Egbuka compared to JSN coming across the field. Hence the vast improvement from week 1/2 after the JSN injury.
There is no shame in calling it joe you see it.. I like CJ. Think he reads defense better than some pros.. he is a good talent. Any team should be happy with him “ that needs a qb”. Appreciate your insight! Keep up the goods✌🏼
Great video FYI, the Buckeyes offense Since day took over as Head Coach in 2019 has drastically changed. Fields and Stroud were levels ahead of past Buckeye QBs, and the offense and production reflected that. Used to be hard nose rushing attack with the ability to throw it over you. Now they completely dismantle every defense they come across.
As a U of M fan, I would love if the Lions drafted him. Might not make a lot of sense, but he's going to be something if he keeps learning like this in the NFL
Oh also another thing again, CJ stroud was injured for most of the season with an undisclosed injury i believe he got earlier in the season(I think actually in the Notre Dame game), and didn’t get over until the month off before UGA
I'm not a huge prospect analyst, I would just say I'm more objective than a good amount of people, and was pretty hard on CJ Stroud for 99% of his career. But after the Georgia game, he skyrocketed towards my QB2, and in a perfect world where Stroud and Young went to perfect situations, I would prefer Stroud. He does indeed have that DAWG in him, and DAWG calculator > tape research
what scares me about CJ is that he could potentially be like another Dak Prescott where he will have a great career in like the first two to three years and just completely go downhill overtime and how he could handle himself without having weapons around him
Totally agree he has a low ceiling as a pure pocket passer. I wish the Texans would’ve gamble on Anthony Richardson and his elite physical intangibles.
The first issue you noted with CJ is why as a Texans why I’d be willing to trade to 1 for Bryce Young. Young is insanely calm in the pocket. I’m worried stroud with the Texans OL and skill players won’t be a good fit, while Bryce young will be able to navigate the Texans weaknesses. Stroud just seems like a better fit for a more talented team. I think if CJ stroud was at a random mid level program like an Iowa State or Stanford he wouldn’t be as highly regarded. This video further separated stroud and young for me.
That wheel route on Norte Dame was a wheel rout then the receiver did a curl come back to the side line. If Strout would of throw that pass deep the receiver was not going deep. Strout remine me of Joe Montana when he played at Norte Dame always cool in the pocket moves around waiting to throw where the receiver needs to be. The Raiders need a QB like to see Strout Start next season for the Silver and Black.
Watched every OSU game from the past 2 years. CJ Stroud has the talent to be the best qb in the league and he is the calmest player I've ever seen on the field. But he doesn't take those easy 2-4 yard runs and tends to stay in the pocket too long. Also he benefitted from a monster OL in front of him. He is absolutely deserving of being the QB1 in the draft if it happens
One thing I don't think people account for Is that role that Egbuka #2 is playing was supposed to be JSN. The whole off season Stroud worked with JSN as that underneath guy, and for him to get injured and Egbuka to replace that role took some time. It's evident by the first 2 clips shown where there was some hesitation. I would argue Egbuka is a little quicker and would get to the spot earlier then what he was used to. Ryan Day came out and said that the whole offense in the offseason was predicated around JSN. No one wants to talk about losing the #1 WR in the country week 1 and still putting up outstanding numbers because he had MHJ.
He does have issues to work on for sure to level up. However I will say a good bit of the straight up bad throws shown were during the Northwestern Game in 35mph winds.
i feel cj stroud is like herbert in oregen because there college film is iffy but there final game changed my mind because i realize there offense didnt allow then to use there legs
@@ThatFranchiseGuy i will say herbert had no weapon who draft able level guy but his online was top in college ball; herbert like stroud need to anticipate way better & needed to make more second reaction plays; but herbert god gifted abilities were amazing
Disagree. Herbert I think was a tough read back in Oregon because as much as you could believe his gifts, you also had to accept Oregon had no real pass attack to exploit his gifts with. But in terms of everything to play pocket QB, he had at a very high base line level already along with the arm talent. Top O-line doesn't really matter when the payoff they scheme him for that is... screen passes. Just like how Joe Lombardi gave it to him too in the pros.
I wouldn’t mind having Jared Goff with wheels on the colts. Especially if we surround him with a great run game and good possession WRs we could make a serious run
I agree with your evaluation but not the valuation. "Safe" high floor qb. But I just don't see a reason to not go for the higher upside guys. Middle of the pack rarely wins you super bowls. So at top 10 qb i rather try hitting a homerun and possibly miss than draft safe. I have them ranked 1 Young 2 Levis 3 Richardson 4 Strout. if you have the optimal situation to develop and sit (Lions for example) maybe I even would take Richardson over Levis.
Bro I think you should add some music in the background. Set the mood a bit. Not too loud of course, but add some sauce. Good content but add some garnishing for the views
Honestly when I watched stroud’s film, he felt way more like Joe Burrow stylistically than I expected. He obviously not as good but he has similar strengths and weaknesses, just less polished. obviously no guarantee, but I think he catches more hate than he deserves.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy True. Pocket poise is something you exhibit or you don't and for Burrow, that dude went to show that off at the highest level of college football competition and one of the toughest divisions to win in.
He’s clearly QB2 in my mind and a guaranteed top-10 pick. His accuracy and touch is the best in the class. He still needs to work on scanning across the field and feeling pressure in the pocket.
As a colts fan, we need Bryce, and I hope we trade up for him. CJ doesn't have certain elements in his game to become an elite QB most likely, Bryce has more upside. We'll end up with CJ if Houston takes Bryce, which they will.
Only qbs I’m spending a first rounder on is stroud and young. Levis is too much projection at the next level. Same with Richardson and some running qbs can never really throw. Still haven’t seen a running team win a championship. Even tho they can. How sustainable is it.
Levi’s and Richardson have the potential to be the next Trubisky if they are drafted by the wrong team. Playing either one right away would be a big mistake. I think going to a team that can exploit their strengths and runs the right scheme would be beneficial to their long term development. Richardson is really raw but can become a good qb in three to 4 years. He did put up a lot of terrible stats in too many games. I wouldn’t draft him till the 3rd round but you know that won’t happen ! Same for Levi’s but he has experience playing in a pro offense. He will still have to sit a year or more as well.
Levi’s and Richardson have the potential to be the next Trubisky if they are drafted by the wrong team. Playing either one right away would be a big mistake. I think going to a team that can exploit their strengths and runs the right scheme would be beneficial to their long term development. Richardson is really raw but can become a good qb in three to 4 years. He did put up a lot of terrible stats in too many games. I wouldn’t draft him till the 3rd round but you know that won’t happen ! Same for Levi’s but he has experience playing in a pro offense. He will still have to sit a year or more as well.
Great as always marcus. Just started watching stroud today and i was extremely impressed. Like you said seems to be a very safe prospect and a guy with some very good upside. Id happily draft him in the top 10
carolina gonna mess it up somehow and not draft CJ, Bryce, or Richardson. I got a feeling this QB class is gonna have two HoF dudes, and maybe one of em isn't a 1st rounder. Just hoping Panthers don't get "smart" and just pick a QB at 1.
@jacobbell1934 like he said in the video he thinks stroud is a high floor player hopefully that is close enough to kirk and along with the freed up money from trading kirk in this scenario and brian Flores we could have a better team
@@jacksonklark6119 how long will it take for him to be as competent as kirk? At least one year. I don’t think you understand the problems that roster and scheme already have
@jacobbell1934 I hav8said anything about the roster or scheme yet and Flores is bridging a new scheme and the offense was good last year I do see a world where stroud like 90% of kirk even though he's a worse passer since he'll be more mobile and extra help with that 30 mill kirk will presumably free up
@@jacobbell1934 LOL replacing Cousins wouldn't be a full rebuild. If you could get a QB whose got his ability to read pre/post snap, get rid of the ball fast AND be mobile, that is a FULL upgrade from Cousins with the same offense he was playing with this season under KOC's scheme. The only thing to really upgrade is the O-line which outside of O'Neill and a healthy Darrisaw, everyone can be upgraded.
did you see his pff grades over the last two years? they look pretty good. also they have him in the top6 in their big board. doesn't that mean they like him?
At least you aren’t an analyst that picks a stance and stands his ground on it even when proven wrong. Love to see the honesty
Why I always trust Marcus! If nothing he’s got some journalistic integrity!
So happy you've come around to this guy! I'm a Michigan fan but Stroud can be scarily accurate in the pocket. That semi-final game really opened alot of eyes to what his ceiling could be.
these more narrative/story-telling breakdown style videos are probably my favorite content you’ve ever put out, and that’s saying a lot given how good everything is. Can’t wait for the next one.
To see how far these videos have come over the years is amazing. They were always good. And the analysis has always been on point. But the quality of the content visually now is outstanding. Must take ages to produce. It's worth it.
Thank you!
I think CJ Stroud is going to be the best of the 2023 bunch. One assumes that Ohio State quarterbacks have it far too easy due to the insane amount of talent that is generally surrounding them. That it’s just a member of “point and click” for quarterbacks. The same is often said about Alabama quarterbacks.
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This how you know the world gonna end when TFG defending an Ohio State QB😭
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Well there hasn’t been any impressive qbs coming out of there. Even justin fields wasn’t an impressive prospect nor has he been impressive in the nfl
@@jacobbell1934LMFAOOOO
@@mjlofink1125 yeah it’s unfortunate but true
@@jacobbell1934Justin Fields wasn’t a good prospect??? What are u smoking
i had the same comp of Goff with more running ability. which is great or disappointing depending on your expectations
Wonderful analysis....
CJ STROUD IS BEING UNDERESTIMATED
I love watching Stroud clips. I often try to find Aaron Rodgers flaws (Packer fan here) and keep noticing Rodgers not wanting to go to the middle. He made a career out of the sideline back shoulder throw and was OK with following Adams due to Adams incredible ability. However, this past season, where developing communication with receivers was a clear need he seems to not have the confidence (or ability) in seeing the middle guy. It looks to me like Stroud, another of those accurate passes, may be able to achieve it. At least it will be interesting to watch him in the NFL. I would pick him if I were GM.
Yep! It's like his one critical weakness
Seeing Derek Carr lack of pocket awareness was so frustrating and I hope if we take stroud it isn't the same
it will be because we suck
Your take about him throwing with anticipation has aged really well. Doing it at the next level wonderfully.
He might not ever be top 3, but he can definitely be elite and win a ring.
Hopefully Fields develops more and Stroud can get in a good spot so the OSU QB narrative changes
I would love to see Stroud wind up in Carolina. Reich, Jim Caldwell, and Josh McCown is a nice trio of coaches to develop him + they have a solid offensive line already in place.
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Great video Marcus! In my scouting report video, I called him one of the most complicated QB prospects I’ve ever scouted because like you mention, he has shown the ability to do pretty much everything, just has to be much better at consistently showing all of those skills and traits
I like the 'more athletic Jared Goff' projection. Could crush it in structure with the right weapons and O-line around him (will be challenge wherever he ends up in). But ultimately the team will look for him to improve his reads pre/post snap and the consistency of his accuracy. Along with hopefully utilizing the strengths for passing in between the hashes and being able to drop a pretty deep ball. That said he will only realize that potential as good as he can with a team that believes in building the offense around him.
At 9:33 on the Mesh play, you said Stroud missed the play. But if you notice, the safety was all over that from the jump. I think that is the reason he looked it off.
I'm very pleased that you're seeing the growth from Stroud, that I've gone up to bat for him on twitter because of, as someone who was also low on Stroud going into the season and after the Notre Dame game. He's a different beast now and is the best QB prospect to come out of Ohio State IMO. Still behind Bryce but it's a top 3 talent versus a top 5-10 talent
Honestly, it says a lot more about a person when they admit their stance or opinion changes. Kudos to you my man.
Glad Ima Texans fan!!
Love the videos man, they keep getting better every year!!!
Awesome video! I know its probably not getting the views you wanted but this is really well done!
Thanks you, it's doing OK!
Those early season mesh throws were on the receivers IMO. Egbuka in particular had a significant adjustment period in reading coverages once he had to take on the JSN role.
I mean they are both... Wide open
@@ThatFranchiseGuy yeah. But it's mesh. "Open" in mesh is totally reliant on the WR reading the coverage right. QB's get some ugly looking misses in this if the WR misreads leverage, or fails to sit down/run away from coverage correctly.
I don't even know how much of an adjustment it was for Egbuka as much as CJ getting used to the speed of Egbuka compared to JSN coming across the field. Hence the vast improvement from week 1/2 after the JSN injury.
I think he'll be a solid qb. He might need a year or two to break out but the arm and size is there already.
Good to see an analyst with an open mind! Glad I’m a subscriber 👍
There is no shame in calling it joe you see it.. I like CJ. Think he reads defense better than some pros.. he is a good talent. Any team should be happy with him “ that needs a qb”. Appreciate your insight! Keep up the goods✌🏼
I was at the Rose Bowl game when he played. At the 14:20 throw, I said at the game “I want him to be a Denver Bronco”.
Great video FYI, the Buckeyes offense Since day took over as Head Coach in 2019 has drastically changed. Fields and Stroud were levels ahead of past Buckeye QBs, and the offense and production reflected that. Used to be hard nose rushing attack with the ability to throw it over you. Now they completely dismantle every defense they come across.
I think you’re the best at what u do man. I trust your opinion over everyone.
TFG with the top tier content as always!
I really dig that you’re willing to process new information and alter or change you opinion because of it. Well done!
As always thanks for the spicy content! 🙏🏻
I see a ton of Dak in the tape
Marcus, you're the best man. Amazing content per usual.
Stroud will break the Ohio State QB curse since Urban Meyer hasn’t ruined him lmao
explains why Fields is different also. good point Urban truly is the poison that ruins the well.
Need him in Carolina man
Great video, excited for your Bryce Young breakdown !
Glad you came around on Stroud
As a U of M fan, I would love if the Lions drafted him. Might not make a lot of sense, but he's going to be something if he keeps learning like this in the NFL
I'd love to see Stroud with the lions. With the o-line and young receivers, that offense and team in general would be super fun to watch.
Oh also another thing again, CJ stroud was injured for most of the season with an undisclosed injury i believe he got earlier in the season(I think actually in the Notre Dame game), and didn’t get over until the month off before UGA
Ehhhh, I don't buy that.
I'm not a huge prospect analyst, I would just say I'm more objective than a good amount of people, and was pretty hard on CJ Stroud for 99% of his career. But after the Georgia game, he skyrocketed towards my QB2, and in a perfect world where Stroud and Young went to perfect situations, I would prefer Stroud. He does indeed have that DAWG in him, and DAWG calculator > tape research
I appreciate how I’m depth this is. I like Stroud. He’s just a smooth player on the field. Perfect fit for what Indy needs.
I love your draft content!
Good stuff
Stroud in the Shanahan offense in Houston sounds amazing to me.
what scares me about CJ is that he could potentially be like another Dak Prescott where he will have a great career in like the first two to three years and just completely go downhill overtime and how he could handle himself without having weapons around him
Totally agree he has a low ceiling as a pure pocket passer. I wish the Texans would’ve gamble on Anthony Richardson and his elite physical intangibles.
I think Stroud will make less bad decisions when he isn't convinced his receivers can make any catch
The first issue you noted with CJ is why as a Texans why I’d be willing to trade to 1 for Bryce Young. Young is insanely calm in the pocket. I’m worried stroud with the Texans OL and skill players won’t be a good fit, while Bryce young will be able to navigate the Texans weaknesses. Stroud just seems like a better fit for a more talented team. I think if CJ stroud was at a random mid level program like an Iowa State or Stanford he wouldn’t be as highly regarded. This video further separated stroud and young for me.
He’s calm but not too calm, just a very natural feel for what is going on around him. He just has better instincts in that way.
That wheel route on Norte Dame was a wheel rout then the receiver did a curl come back to the side line. If Strout would of throw that pass deep the receiver was not going deep. Strout remine me of Joe Montana when he played at Norte Dame always cool in the pocket moves around waiting to throw where the receiver needs to be. The Raiders need a QB like to see Strout Start next season for the Silver and Black.
He plays on an offense with probably 4 first round picks, maybe 3 offensive lineman, a te, and a running back that will all play in the NFL.
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I think he is the best quarterback in the draft Young’s size is concerning to me. Durability might be a problem with him.
I'm sorry but if you ever thought for one second that throwing with anticipation was a weakness of CJ's then you simply never watched him
I mean I gave you examples from early in the season where it wasn't great... But ok.
Watched every OSU game from the past 2 years. CJ Stroud has the talent to be the best qb in the league and he is the calmest player I've ever seen on the field. But he doesn't take those easy 2-4 yard runs and tends to stay in the pocket too long. Also he benefitted from a monster OL in front of him. He is absolutely deserving of being the QB1 in the draft if it happens
Kinda, the run game struggled a lot which put more weight on his shoulders, he had good pass pro tho
One thing I don't think people account for Is that role that Egbuka #2 is playing was supposed to be JSN. The whole off season Stroud worked with JSN as that underneath guy, and for him to get injured and Egbuka to replace that role took some time. It's evident by the first 2 clips shown where there was some hesitation. I would argue Egbuka is a little quicker and would get to the spot earlier then what he was used to. Ryan Day came out and said that the whole offense in the offseason was predicated around JSN. No one wants to talk about losing the #1 WR in the country week 1 and still putting up outstanding numbers because he had MHJ.
He does have issues to work on for sure to level up. However I will say a good bit of the straight up bad throws shown were during the Northwestern Game in 35mph winds.
i feel cj stroud is like herbert in oregen because there college film is iffy but there final game changed my mind because i realize there offense didnt allow then to use there legs
I don't see a lot of comparisons there tbh. Herbert wasn't as good of a college QB and has a WWAY stronger arm
@@ThatFranchiseGuy i will say herbert had no weapon who draft able level guy but his online was top in college ball; herbert like stroud need to anticipate way better & needed to make more second reaction plays; but herbert god gifted abilities were amazing
Disagree. Herbert I think was a tough read back in Oregon because as much as you could believe his gifts, you also had to accept Oregon had no real pass attack to exploit his gifts with. But in terms of everything to play pocket QB, he had at a very high base line level already along with the arm talent. Top O-line doesn't really matter when the payoff they scheme him for that is... screen passes. Just like how Joe Lombardi gave it to him too in the pros.
CJ best QB in draft
damn you called it
Wow, you think?
Certainly you can come up with a one-word descriptive term for CJ Stroud. 🤔
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I’m was fully expecting Stroud to get trashed like Fields did coming out. I’m glad that he’s ghostly gotten the respect he’s earned
I wouldn’t mind having Jared Goff with wheels on the colts. Especially if we surround him with a great run game and good possession WRs we could make a serious run
CJ proved all you wrong!
CJ Stroud is a very solid qb prospect
no hesitation clicking on this video
Watching these clips has me scratching my head why everyone keeps talking about SBIV as a backup at best. Dude is a passer 100%.
I’m a buckeye fan so I’m completely biased, but that Georgia game made me believe CJ could be elite in the NFL
i think his arm talent is a mix between burrow and goff burrow being better than pre snap reads
captivated now I guess
He should be the second pick of the draft
We getting Will Levis?
I would change the font in the thumbnail and maybe the title to something a bit more clickbaity. Maybe "Is CJ Stroud the Next Ohio State Bust?
He’s my qb 2 and AR15 is my qb 1
Idk if you're gonna see this, but who would you pick with the number 1 pick? just curious cause KEEP POUNDING.
I agree with your evaluation but not the valuation. "Safe" high floor qb. But I just don't see a reason to not go for the higher upside guys. Middle of the pack rarely wins you super bowls. So at top 10 qb i rather try hitting a homerun and possibly miss than draft safe. I have them ranked 1 Young 2 Levis 3 Richardson 4 Strout. if you have the optimal situation to develop and sit (Lions for example) maybe I even would take Richardson over Levis.
buddy knew it
Hope Texans draft him 🤞
CJ stroud is my qb 2
I have no problem with people who don't like him. my problem is most people "go cj tape sucks draft will Levis" which makes no sense
Bro I think you should add some music in the background. Set the mood a bit. Not too loud of course, but add some sauce. Good content but add some garnishing for the views
There is music, maybe I've made it too quiet?
@@ThatFranchiseGuysorry I didn’t notice. Maybe a bit quiet
PLEASE DO A BRYCE YOUNG VIDEO!!!
That’s a lot of P’s intro how many takes did you need for that
TBF i need like 7 takes for every intro lmfao
Honestly when I watched stroud’s film, he felt way more like Joe Burrow stylistically than I expected. He obviously not as good but he has similar strengths and weaknesses, just less polished. obviously no guarantee, but I think he catches more hate than he deserves.
I don't like this only cause Burrow has remarkable poise in the Pocket which is a criticism I have on Stroud
@@ThatFranchiseGuy given his own self correction throughout the season and in game don’t you think he can develop it in the pros?
Like I said in the video, that usually isn't something that develops.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy True. Pocket poise is something you exhibit or you don't and for Burrow, that dude went to show that off at the highest level of college football competition and one of the toughest divisions to win in.
Colts future QB1
He’s clearly QB2 in my mind and a guaranteed top-10 pick. His accuracy and touch is the best in the class. He still needs to work on scanning across the field and feeling pressure in the pocket.
Future Colt
As an osu fan, I would hope not. Are school has a good track record at a lot of other positions, but qb is really bad
I hope the Ohio State tight end is OK
Lord please, I need him to fall to my Colts or trade up man. 😭🔥⭕️ I’m an Ohio State fan also, no bias. I’ll be fine with Bryce too.
He wouldn’t need to do much to be the best qb coming out of osu
As a colts fan, we need Bryce, and I hope we trade up for him.
CJ doesn't have certain elements in his game to become an elite QB most likely, Bryce has more upside.
We'll end up with CJ if Houston takes Bryce, which they will.
@@ViolentMLGas I said I’m fine with either one of em. I think they’re both gonna be real good.
pulled out receipts on himself
My comp for stroud is stafford
Doesn't have Staffords arm talent but I do see similarities
Why stafford? i don't get it..
@@ThatFranchiseGuyI think he’ll equal out to Stafford, talent wise.
Only qbs I’m spending a first rounder on is stroud and young. Levis is too much projection at the next level. Same with Richardson and some running qbs can never really throw. Still haven’t seen a running team win a championship. Even tho they can. How sustainable is it.
Levi’s and Richardson have the potential to be the next Trubisky if they are drafted by the wrong team. Playing either one right away would be a big mistake. I think going to a team that can exploit their strengths and runs the right scheme would be beneficial to their long term development. Richardson is really raw but can become a good qb in three to 4 years. He did put up a lot of terrible stats in too many games. I wouldn’t draft him till the 3rd round but you know that won’t happen ! Same for Levi’s but he has experience playing in a pro offense. He will still have to sit a year or more as well.
Levi’s and Richardson have the potential to be the next Trubisky if they are drafted by the wrong team. Playing either one right away would be a big mistake. I think going to a team that can exploit their strengths and runs the right scheme would be beneficial to their long term development. Richardson is really raw but can become a good qb in three to 4 years. He did put up a lot of terrible stats in too many games. I wouldn’t draft him till the 3rd round but you know that won’t happen ! Same for Levi’s but he has experience playing in a pro offense. He will still have to sit a year or more as well.
Don’t F*ck around and let Stroud fall to 5 hyping up Levis
Great as always marcus. Just started watching stroud today and i was extremely impressed. Like you said seems to be a very safe prospect and a guy with some very good upside. Id happily draft him in the top 10
carolina gonna mess it up somehow and not draft CJ, Bryce, or Richardson. I got a feeling this QB class is gonna have two HoF dudes, and maybe one of em isn't a 1st rounder. Just hoping Panthers don't get "smart" and just pick a QB at 1.
They fuked up passing on cj stroud
as of rn its 1) stroud 2) richardson 3) bryce .. but in his defense he tean sucks
I'm hoping the vikings can somehow trade up to get him kirk can't be here forever
That would mean a full rebuild, which already might be coming anyway
@jacobbell1934 like he said in the video he thinks stroud is a high floor player hopefully that is close enough to kirk and along with the freed up money from trading kirk in this scenario and brian Flores we could have a better team
@@jacksonklark6119 how long will it take for him to be as competent as kirk? At least one year. I don’t think you understand the problems that roster and scheme already have
@jacobbell1934 I hav8said anything about the roster or scheme yet and Flores is bridging a new scheme and the offense was good last year I do see a world where stroud like 90% of kirk even though he's a worse passer since he'll be more mobile and extra help with that 30 mill kirk will presumably free up
@@jacobbell1934 LOL replacing Cousins wouldn't be a full rebuild. If you could get a QB whose got his ability to read pre/post snap, get rid of the ball fast AND be mobile, that is a FULL upgrade from Cousins with the same offense he was playing with this season under KOC's scheme. The only thing to really upgrade is the O-line which outside of O'Neill and a healthy Darrisaw, everyone can be upgraded.
If I’m the Colts I’m drafting C.J Stroud
The bar is pretty low for Ohio State quarterbacks in the NFL.
Interesting, pff seems to really not like him and usually your tape matches up with their analysts so ill be curious to see whose right
did you see his pff grades over the last two years?
they look pretty good. also they have him in the top6 in their big board.
doesn't that mean they like him?
If Carr doesn’t end there I like Stroud to the Panthers at 9
Nah AR is the only QB falling to 9
Stroud is Nice. He’s what Jordan Love was said to be 😊m
Don't write off Jordan Love!
@@ThatFranchiseGuybeen 3 years. Dude, it’s over with him
Was he supposed to overtake Aaron Rodgers?
@@ThatFranchiseGuy supposed to start at some point. Especially considering when MPJ and Higgins were drafted after him
@@LvoZee05 over the back-to-back MVP? I’m not even a truther, that’s just insane to ask for