Is Being Fat A Choice? Fit Men vs Fat Men | Hasanabi reacts to Jubilee (Middle Ground)
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- Is Being Fat A Choice? Fit Men vs Fat Men | Hasanabi reacts to Jubilee (Middle Ground)
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Hasanabi (AKA Hasan Piker) is an American Twitch streamer and political commentator. He is known for covering the news and discussing politics from a left-wing perspective. He also plays a variety of video games, reacts to funny videos and occasionally checks out memes made by the community.
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It warmed my heart to see that everyone in the comments put their differences aside to shit on Myron lol
Even people who like Andrew Tate hate on Myron😂
Its sad that hate warms your heart. Get some profesional help.
The great unifier😭
@@marekslusny9766 its the unity that warms are hearts
Is that the guy in the fresh & fit t shirt?
There was literal NO moderation. Myron was gaslighting, attacking, mocking and bullying the entire panel to NO PUSHBACK at all. Stick to directing, dude.
He was an asshole, that kept derailing the conversation to talk about some BS, but he was never wrong about what he said on topic.
You can't make a debate video with a guy like Myron, you just can't.
Hassan saying the best part of being ripped is standing up for people struggling with weight and being immune to the insults associated with bully’s of that environment inspired me lowkey
always use your power for good 💪
He knows how to pander to his viewers. 😂
@@JacobsNewsYeah, deep down he wish he had the courage like Myron to speak his mind and still make money😂
@@JakeStarz.Myron is on his way to meet Andrew tate in prison. They're of the same calibre, this is not a flex.
@@darcyroyce Myron not going to prison, what are you talking about? Also I’m not saying it’s a flex, I’m saying Hasan thinks the same way. He’s just pandering for the majority of people.
Only a few people can actually be successful, so he just trying to get on the losers good side to make more money.
Myron ruined what could have been a good conversation
story of his life
Myron Ruined Everything When He Came Out Of His Mother's Womb
How could it have been a good conversation? They was gonna stay fat, they want you to accept fat people.
Myron did the right thing and took it seriously and told the world that you have to excercise.
Greg too
Kind of wild that once the fat guys started getting a word in, the conversation improved. Everyone but Greg and Myron made this conversation productive.
As a woman I don’t care what the guy look like as long as they don’t have the personality of Myron. He ain’t even physically attractive
Myron doesnt want you either lil bro
i get you don't like him that's cool but that last part seems like projection
@@xa5552: I mean... do you find him physically attractive? Do you like his face? His hairline? His five o'clock shadow?
Yeah I don't find him attractive either with or without is garbage personality
@@xa5552nah she’s right. he isn’t hideous, but he’s not great looking either. definitely at a level where he can’t get by on looks alone. he’s got the type of personality that would require him being a near universal 10 for most anybody to put up with it.
Myron isnt fit enough for me to care about his opinion
He looks like a cartoon character with his exaggerated features, bad hair transplant, and frail body
He is neither fit nor fresh to even be in there.
So a guy that has six pack and fit fully healthy isnt enough fit for you ? Thats an insane take 😂
@dodo9776 specify "fully healthy". Just bcuz fat % is low that does not equal healthy btw. Youre basing your judgement off visual bro science.
@@Mfmail12484Ya I don’t particularly like the guy, but he is visibly muscular and fit. People are just straight up lying just because they dislike him 😂 there’s a 99% chance the people clowning on his fit physique are built like a marshmallow.
Fresh & Fit doesn’t count as fit. He is unfit as a human being.
stale and unfit 🔥
How he’s more fit than u
all the roaches from his community were summoned with this video
@THELONESTARSTATE1776 copium
@THELONESTARSTATE1776yeah to 12 year olds
Finally…..some footage of Myron around people he is attracted to
Rolled up and fucking smoked, god damn
The only time he's happy is when he's around men he's attracted
@@silentsoto blushing and kicking his feet
@@silentsotoI saw him happy at a restaurant in Miami with his girlfriend. He’s in a relationship and he was talking about marrying her without the state involved. So I’m just going to disagree with your comment
@@JakeStarz.who???
Lmao im overweight and work in construction guranteed myron wouldnt last a whole 12 hour day doing the shit i do.
Not much is hotter than a dude with a dad bod in coveralls 🥵😩
Gotta love when women tell you what they find attractive and dudes be like “no they’re lying 😡” lmao
Dude couldn't last 1 in a warehouse.
And I know some women who are into that, I am personally not as a bisexual, but good luck chap. They're out there.
@@BedPotato786 bisexual representation! Woo! Lol I’m bi and I’m into it :]
It’s so silly to try and flatten all women into one category with one set of preferences like we aren’t all different people.
i fucking hate myron, but physically speaking he’s healthier than someone who works construction. hard physical labour leads to chronic pain and illnesses.
Yea the chubby roofer laying shingles in the dead of summer is super lazy
All the chubby truck drivers that keep the country running are lazy 😂
@bingus4057 for real. I used to work for a trucking company. Some of the hardest working bastards you'll ever meet but sadly many of them struggle with diabetes and cardiovascular issues as they age. The lifestyle leaves little room for meal prep and exercise.
sounds like hell
You can tell this whole video Myron isnt listening to a word anyone is saying hes just waiting for them to stop talking so he can say whatever he was going to anyways
yuppp
Yes because being fat is never right dummy😂
Notice this all the time with ppl like him. Exactly why you can't entertain these fools bc it just wastes YOUR time. Fresh & Fit love to live in ignorance
he is listening, but isnt trying to understand but to refute anything they say
he actually listens more than anyone else on this pannel, but for malicious reasons, that is why people like this are the biggest scum of society, its not about hearing other side, its about twisting and ruining their perspective
@@nbassasin8092 Myron spoke most facts here. Ya'll are just way toooooo soft smh
Man, where did they get this moderator. Myron "you're fat therefore you're lazy" ... silence. SwagKing "You're not as big as the other guys" .... wow wow let's not get personal during this
He just a positivity influencer
Yeah he sucks
It’s crazy because he was objectively not as big as the other guys, it was not personal at all.
@@Sghgyv Yeah fr like the guy just threw Myron's objectivity logic right back at him
hes quite litterally telling the truth. what did the insult bring at all? myrons getting insulted from a planet and he already stated he doesn't respect them the same as other fit guys
I’ve been avoiding this video because I know I’m gonna want to blow my brains out when I listen to Myron yap
after listening to his wormbrain takes, even LOOKING at him makes me want to instantly combust.
His takes just get worse throughout the debate
Same
He got handed his ass multiple times, so I'm ok with it.
Just remember for all of these online psychos that their opinions aren't held by most people you will meet in any IRL social situation and their attitudes are repellent to basically everyone with a life. People who are fatphobic IRL generally have other things to care about in their lives besides whether the 2/3rds of the US population that is overweight are suffering from moral degeneracy. It takes a real husk of a person to spend every day talking about things they truly hate while spewing abuse at people they don't know. Who do you think is sticking around people like that? My guess is basically no one, because healthy people don't want to feel angry/upset/agitated all the time.
Not a single person mentioned that the daily life of a normal human does not revolve around filming themselves work out to get paid. I work three jobs and still maybe have energy to run or go to the gym. Calling fat people lazy is ridiculous, it's in healthy to am extent but would you call Albert Einstein lazy because he was over weight? I can spend 10 hours a day doing flower bouquets and events make 100k a year is that still lazy because I don't lift weights for fun? They're so terminally online and disconnected
You need to get healthy, even Rick Ross got healthy. Money means nothing if you are not healthy.
this
everyone in the comments and video argue about everything instead of this
you are absolutely right. Ive read so many comments and Ive finally found atleast one person who gets this
@@JakeStarz. You’re not refuting his statement just regurgitating Myrion’s talking points. Being fat ≠ being lazy or undisciplined. That’s such a shortsighted take.
You dont need to lift weights or be jacked. Just portion control and the type of food you eat is enough to be skinny or in shape. You also dont get fat and obese overnight. Forget Myron on the show but nobody genuienly has sympathy for a obese person nowhere around the world.
@@benjiboy5119 I am refuting his statement if you critically think. He’s putting money over his health and I’m clearly stating that even the most successful people are trying to get into shape. 🤷🏽♂️
Jubilee need to be stopped, these conversations are not in anyway shape or form trying to find a middle ground, the moderator does nothing at all, this whole episode is that "meet me in the middle, i took one step forward, he took one step backwards". It's debating for the sake of debating.
The problem is that this conversation don’t have a middle ground😂. Myron is right, being fat is unacceptable and the goal is to get fit.
TBH, I do t even know why this is even a conversation😂. Everyone know that you must be fit for a better life.
Yeah jubilee’s middle ground videos have become pretty ridiculous. They posture like they’re having a serious debate, but it’s really just become a drama interaction farm. They’ll have these completely uneducated Internet personalities on just to be inflammatory/get clicks.
@@chaschuky999 Myron took this very seriously, it’s unacceptable to be fat. He was right.
This is why I love Anthony Padilla's videos where he interviews individuals and also has episodes where marginalized people get together to discuss assumptions about them. It's very wholesome and eye-opening!
You’re right. It’s causing more discourse for young people
Zach is not terminally online, he’s like the only normal person in the group. He is literally the opposite of Myron.
Ok mr. BETA
@@marekslusny9766 📽
The internet has come to a point where im no longer sure if thats ironic or not 😢@@marekslusny9766
guy is a dad, that alone puts him as way bigger normie than any of them, fit or fat
@@marekslusny9766 lol are you 5 years old?
Myron: We should bring shame back
Tevin: Youre small so-
Myron: NO NOT THAT
I was hoping for someone to say: 'Myron, you should be ashamed of yourself as a human being, cause on a human level, you lack decency, empathy and seem like a shithead'.
I love that Myron wore his own podcast’s shirt. Because he had to squeeze any last bit of clout he could, out of this appearance 🤣
Dude already known across the world, he wear that shirt to show dedication.
@@JakeStarz.Are you his alt account or just a dickrider?
Cope@@JakeStarz.
@@voxomnes9537 yeah I’m coping😔
Is that not a thing that literally every content creator has done at least once? Wearing your own merch is par for the course if you have merch to sell.
as someone with pcos who physically cannot lose weight no matter what, it upsets me so much how people think of being fat as a moral failing and i’m glad your talking about that
I'd assume that's the minority of obesity cases.
Take it from someone that “didnt eat” to lose weight, its how you develop an eating disorder dumbasses need to stop cosplaying health professionals💀💀someones weight is between them and their doctor
Thats the dumbest sht i have ever heard no such illness exist 😂 you are simply lazy . Yes u might have something that wil make ur body take more fat than other people but that doesnt mean u cant lose weight thats the most ridiculous sht i have ever saw and the worst excuse for being fat . I have seen literally DISABLE people lose weight and get six pack if a disable person with no legs can do it why could you do it ? Thats dumb af
@@vegetalordvegeta yapatron over here
Did you just tell them to starve themselves??? @@vegetalordvegeta
Learning about Myron’s existence was something I wish didn’t happen ignorance is extremely bliss
Never heard of him
@@Username-f5pbless your soul.
@@a.b.2405 even after watching this, a day later I still have no clue and don’t care. 😂
@@Username-f5p please keep it that way. Stay innocent! I wish I didn’t know about him. 😂
If bullying worked, Fit wouldn't be so confident
He needs to be introduced to a 90s bully
'fit', bring shame back
Yeah, as an exercise scientist, Myron sounds like he’s never been in a gym before. For some people homeostasis is being overweight. Bro just can’t understand reality.
Right even with eating healthy, if I don’t exercise I’ll be fat. I rode a bicycle across the USA and by the time I got to the west coast I was gaining fat, even with cycling 80 mile a day. For me I have to watch what I eat and work out if I want to be fit, and even then I still have some mid weight.
there is not a single healthy person that "has homeostasis as being overweight"
that is unealthy state for anyone
however, what people forget to take into account is other nuances to the topic that prevent people from achieving healthy BMI, regular people arent free to just eat and exercies like these prettyboys in this video, they have jobs, commitments, problems that they have to deal with, and often times its not feasible to be fit while balancing everything
but that doesnt make their current state "healthy", it just justifies it, but no, there is not a single person who is normally overweight, unless having some health complicaitons, which, while do exist, arent as common as people who defend obesity claim to be
@@nbassasin8092 first of all, I didn’t say it was healthy, you can put words in my mouth but that’s not helping you make a point. Second of all, you do realize that a BMI of 30 is considered obese, while also being a recommended number for women.
@@PoleOutGod okay, you wanna be literal with words, fine by me
you mentioned homeostasis
homeostasis:
the tendency towards a relatively stable equilibrium between interdependent elements, especially as maintained by physiological processes
by definition, being overweight ruins this principle in many different ways, ruining the equillibrium between muscles and fat, between cholesterol, sugar and blood control of those, between your hearts workload and force you can produce, between your bones and ligaments and their functions, and all of these then indirectly ruin the same equillibrium between other structures in your body, its not always direct consequences (although as mentioned there are many of those), sometims the indirect ones are also important
second of all, the argument comparing womens BMI with men is not even worth me entertaining it, you sound like Myron nitpicking and fitting arguments into your narrative
Also, everyone forgets that some medications will cause you to gain a ton of weight. For some people it’s live in a fat body or die.
“They’re aroused by guys that have…” continues to ramble on abt what arouses him lol
Hasan, use the arrow man
Myron “I’m naturally skinny”. Other guy: “I’m naturally fat”
Myron “that’s not true”
WHAT A SLOW COUSIN
I'm in good shape, but before I was, shame was always the thing that kept me from the gym rather than got me there. Also, there's so much misinfo on exercise & dieting. Like, walking a mile burns the same calories as running one. Protein & carb balance is so important, and getting enough protein& fiber makes you feel satiated better than things like pasta. And it's better to replace high calorie foods with tasty but less unhealthy foods than to try and eat only unappetizing & unfulfilling super healthy food. Lifting more weights is meaningless if you injure yourself, so worry about your mobility more than benching more or w/e.
I can't agree more. I'm mostly sedentary because of my type of work and school, but because I watch what I buy and eat, I weigh relatively less than when I was younger. Focusing on mobility exercises and doing interval runs has made me lose more weight than worrying about which exercise routine I should do and abandoning it all together because of info overload.
the misinfo is real. so many companies and influencers want to sell you their product instead of educate their customers.
Did you claim walking a mile burning the same calories as running misinfo? Cause im certain that is true.
@@D_Jilla I meant those as separate things. Most people think they need to run to lose weight, or they need to eat chicken & rice for every meal etc
I literally can't watch this without my head exploding
seeing the moderator jump in when myron is called small but not when he practicly introduces himself with "Im myrion you disgust me and we need to shame you and the sluts" is driving me crazy right of the bat lol
Damn, is that a condition?
I actually tried watching this on my own and three minutes in I realized I needed to look up if Hasan made a video on it
I had to pause and breathe bro and im not even exaggerating lmfaoooo
Im down 25 kgs and it has been reaally fkn difficult, emotional eater slow as fk metabolism. That being said people calling me fat doesnt make me wanna prove them wrong it makes me wanna get a fkn cheeseburger and eat my feelings
Yo, well done, 25 kgs is a lot I can't imagine how difficult that was!
Don’t gain the 25 kg in the first place kiddo
Congrats for your amazing progress on your journey! 🎉
@@warrioremperor6320 im an amputee gained a lot of my weight during recovery. Its never as simple as u think kiddo
@@warrioremperor6320God youre pathetic
Imagine being myron and thinking you know a n y t h i n g about women. Lmao
@THELONESTARSTATE1776we don’t lmao id off myself before being w an insecure guy like that
@THELONESTARSTATE1776yesss we are attracted to his misogynistic takes and him offering absolutely nothing😍😍
@THELONESTARSTATE1776 you just believe whatever he says? explains a lot
@THELONESTARSTATE1776what women worth anything want him?
@@celinemara565you wish you were near my boy myron
Myron obviously doesn’t know any Polynesians. Those guys are just naturally big bone and have higher body mass. Some are hella fit and strong but naturally big, it’s genetics.
Polynesians are a huge exception to this lol. But even so, that’s besides the point. You can have a natural propensity to be 20+ percent body fat, but you can control it so you don’t get to 40-60% body fat. That’s exactly what Greg teaches. Some people will never be able to get to 10-15% body fat without suffering miserably. So if you are naturally chubby, become an athletic 20-25% body fat rather than an unathletic 40%.
Lil bro picks anomalies to justify being lazy and ugly
I love me a big boy. makes me feel safe 😍
There's tons of "exceptioms" @@neverbackdown1918
@@neverbackdown1918 A huge exception to this?? They're still human dude LMAO
I found the chubby guy in the blue plaid with the nice beard as sexy. Also "dark triad traits" i find very unacctractive. I hate toxic ppl. They are scary. You can be ambitious and not scary. Zach is sexy. The jacked guy in the yellow is fine too
This literally proves Myron’s point, I disagree with him on alot if things but he’s right that women would lie about what they actually like and what they respond too, I promise you, you wouldn’t go for the guy in blue irl, you’re just saying that because you agree with his takes
@maninform3523 What? I've literally dated tall men who are slightly chubby like the men in blue. But they go to the gym 5 days a week and are really fit. I do agree with him. You're right. Personality matters to me a lot as well .He is literally a big and tall model. I hate toxic ass ppl. My ex, unfortunately, despite looking like him, was very toxic, and we broke up. I'm focused on me now. Ye let me go date a fucking serial killer /s u know ppl in the dark triad kill animals right? Like Jeffrey fucking Dahmer. No fucking thanks
@maninform3523 I've literally dated men who look like Zach. You know men with dark triad traits, k!ll animals right. I don't need the toxicity. Thats Jeffrey D@hmer and myron is telling on himself.
You are right. I do like what he had to say. He is clearly considered attractive because he's a big and tall model, and he is married.
@@maninform3523what would be the point in lying about what we find attractive?! Dude in the blue plaid is the most attractive there. The least attractive is Myron. Not only is he not physically attractive, his personality makes it so much worse. He gives us the ick 🤢
@@maninform3523 He is the most traditionally attractive guy on that panel by far idk what you are on.
My best friend for years has eaten 10x healthier than me and exercised everyday, I once tried to do her workout and thought I was going to go into cardiac arrest 20 min in, and was still what people considered “fat”. She then got gastric bypass surgery and then she became underweight because she didn’t know how to stop trying to lose weight, because it was literally her whole life since she was like 12 years old.
If you felt like having cardiac arrests from 20m or cardio than you have a health problem
Not tryna be rude
@Doggy724 I think it was a figure of speech. I sometimes do really intense hit workouts and feel the same in the first 15 minutes and feel better after a 2 min break. But checking with a doctor could never hurt.
@@Doggy724🥸
@@Doggy724This gives the same energy as Ben Shapiro thinking Cardi B and Meg Thee Stallion had a medical problem bc of their WAPs. It was a pretty obvious hyperbole/figure of speech, and you took it in the most literal, bad-faith way so you could get your little jab out there
Every time I hear "If I'm switching teams I'm going for the jacked guy" I always think to myself "Homies got underlying issues if he's thought about it this much"
Moderator really blew it here. He's letting Myron say whatever he wants. Slut shaming, saying people deserve to get bullied, calling fat people disgusting, whole 9. Doesn't bat an eye. Then somebody says he is smaller than the other people there, which is objectively true, and he jumps in and says "noooooo don't insult senpai 🥺"
Another Jubilee L
first of all sleeping around is not morally right because i believe inn the bible sexual immorality is a sin so thats 1. 2 do you know what disgusting even means? it means extremely unpleasant or unacceptable. its a human emotion that people feel just like feeling happy its something that happens. so when people see that their brains automatically go to discust because thats human nature, which means its not natural to be obese discust is dissaproval of the action and encourging chance through concern
My grandpa was hit by a drunk driver.. the front of the car was smashed into his legs. They had to use the jaws of life to separate his body from the car. They told him he’d never walk again and even wanted to amputate his legs. He refused and kept walking, but as a result he became very overweight. No amount of dieting helped. The doctors said him working out and using his legs or lower body would actually cause so much pain and so many more issues compared to being fat. It was almost not even safe for him to lose weight.
It’s not always a choice. So sad and disgusting people still don’t believe that.
If he was in a caloric deficit he would lose weight. Its just very hard to do so when you arent burning much at all.
@@august18016did you even read the fuckin comment
One exception doesnt justify fatasses.
@@august18016 so you want him to starve himself? it's not that easy for everyone man
@@stellamurphy8949No. He should eat at his body’s caloric maintenance level (or whatever it would be at ~20% bodyfat)
Not surprisingly, Myron is Destiny’s homie
No bro. Destiny has a good head
they disagree on any topic.
I have a friend who used to be a model. (She left because 1: dudes are creepy 2: she wasn’t making much) she is still GORGEOUS and her boyfriend is a big boy who is jolly as fuck. Beauty is subjective. 2 things can be true for different people
OMG jolly santas are amazing and I'm probably attracted to them too. The thing that rubs me the wrong way is that every man in that room is just yapping (for better or for worse) about what women are attracted to but there's not a single woman in sight 😭
And it goes both ways i am what people would consider "traditionally attractive" (5'11, fit looking, blue eyes dark hair) and my girlfriend is overweight and is the prettiest girl to me. Insecure people project their insecurities as facts because just like the school bully if you find someone to pick on then you feel like you aren't the worse option anymore.
Literally, and I’ve always said this. You can be the most attractive person appearance wise, but if you’re a shitty human that just makes you ugly. And like Hasan said, confidence and the way you carry yourself has huge impact on how others view you.
most of the girl friends I had growing up dated and married guys who weren't considered that good looking but were kind and smart guys
A good personality and sense of humor can really carry someone in the attractiveness department. I’ve met many people who were not conventionally attractive or were considered “average” and then you start talking to them and boom, their attraction level skyrockets.
People refuse to acknowledge all the factors that go into weight gain/loss. Living in a society that doesn't teach nutrition.. the high carb processed foods with a longer shelf life are cheaper than the whole foods... Mental health is abysmal and therapy is expensive... I've been fat since i was 13 and i didn't see any change until this year after five different therapists and getting medicated for my adhd. I'm 28. I wasnt a moral failure for having genuine struggles i was just a kid with trauma and impulse control issues. It blows my mind that so many people don't care about the nuances
so true! these dudes should look up the social determinants of health and obesity. just because they have ideal circumstances and access to appropriate supports doesn't mean everyone does!
Having had enough conversations with folks over the obesity discourse, it's clear that a lot of people don't care about the nuances because acknowledging those means forfeiting whatever moral standing they think they have that justifies them to be jerks to overweight people. Which would mean admitting they're part of a systemic problem.
They don't want to lose the privilege of having an "other" that's high-key still socially acceptable to kick around.
To add to that, there is so much hate for Americans being the "fat ones" but no one really examines why that is. A very large number of Americans are lower class, meaning they can't afford the time/money it takes to work out and eat healthy. And another big thing that I never see anyone talk about is HOW WALKABLE EUROPE IS, WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE CAN STAY FIT WITHOUT TRYING!! You don't see as many fat folks in NYC or Boston even, because the residents have to walk to get through the day. A lot of the "fat people on scooters in walmart" live in the Midwest and Appalachia, where a car is a necessity for any travel, and food desserts are more common. Why are so few leftists capable of thinking deeply about why fat people exist??
Cry me a river. Sound like a bunch of excuses
@@barbiebear5036 I want your comment pinned somewhere at the top of any conversation about this topic along with the one this is under. It's a layered thing and people just like to make snap judgments and shit on people because media has told them it's acceptable.
Large man has drip, a sense of humor, and a rock solid hairline, i have no doubt that he is more appealing to the majority of women than any of the gym bros and especially fresh/fit. I think "quality females" are attracted to a man that is capable of being vulnerable. if you're a dude that is looks maxing your inevitably going to attract and are probably attracted to "low value females".
Who's gonna tell them!? Don't tell them 😂😂❤
I don't understand how some men find it so hard to understand that the majority of women are looking for a man who is kind. That's it. That's the minimum bar and Myron doesn't even reach that.
It is true. Also (shoking Picachu face), most women do not find attractive over muscular men. Loki/Thor thing.
Cope
@@mandi3891not true Lol
As a fat person, I can't really explain how much working out has helped me mentally. It just really starts your day off on a high note. I highly recommend it.
Yep 15 minutes in the morning to do 5 sets of planks sit ups and pushups, and I’m wide awake and ready to take on the day.
@@xmateinc absolutely. I only started the early morning workout because it was the only time when my kids were asleep. You can imagine my disappointment when I realized that podcast bros were very much correct when they said the morning workout was a great way to start your day
Honestly for me just stretching for like 15 minutes makes me feel better. I’m even able to touch my toes without a lot of strain now which was super exciting when I realized it!
You do you. It is the opposite for me. I hate being sore and being in dripping sweat. Most exercises are painful for me. Yoga makes me want to throw up. Nope. Nope. I would starve instead.
@@mirofeya don't exercise too hard
Just remember people value certain traits more than others in what they personally find attractive.
So really fat guys should be thankful towards Myron. Since every woman realizes that fitness is less valuable of a trait after meeting him.
These Myron type guys "work out" because they can't fix their personalities.
They'd benefit more from therapy than going to the gym. But that's not as profitable as calling all women nasty names.
It didn't help them. Still paying women for sex and 0 normal relationships
🎯💯
I feel like that would have been a good panel if Myron wasn't there.
Every other dude on there has some solid points and opinions. And whenever they try to have a reasonable conversation, he barrels through with some nonsense and derails the conversation away from what could have been productive and beneficial for all
This went sideways because of horrible moderation and Miron plus older fit dude.
26:00 this pissed me off so much, my dad worked so damn hard that he worked himself into diabetes. Saying fat people are lazy is insane to me.
I’m sorry what Zach and the others had to go through. Jubilee is dubious as it is and then Myron shows up ugh.
Yep, always bringing on right-wing grifters that are disingenuous and the other side usually has normal people who are looking to have an honest conversation.
@@CincyFlight True, they shouldn't invite insane people and extremists of whatever category because it creates a toxic environment. If there were moderate, normal with different experiences and opinions - but with arguments that can be considered somewhat understandable - it could be quite a positive and nice learning experience. Some other channels are doing that.
@@akumayoxirumaI'm fine with having extremists personally, but they should definitely make an effort to get people who genuinely want to have a conversation and change minds. they could at least avoid clout chasers like myron who are purposefully inflammatory.
@@cottonblend: I don't think extremists are open to genuinely want an open conversation with a viewpoint exchange because that is one feature which differentiates extremists from someone with certain beliefs based on rational arguments and civil manners. Extremists want to mobilise people for their cause instead of having a rational, civil debate whereas people with strong opinions, like Greg Doucette on that panel, can listen and discuss things without the need to be derogatory to the other guests in every sentence.
@@akumayoxirumayeah. I clearly remember an abortion discussion vs some ypund adults/teens that were either part of support groups or have aborted, vs some extremist pro live activists that literally stole fetuses from hospitals disposals and are funded by reactionary capitalist. Jubilee just wants to ragebait at this ppint
I find it pretty messed up that people focus on weight and size when it comes to health instead of encouraging people simply to add healthy foods to their diet, moderate the junk food, and get physical activity in for the sake of heart and muscle health. We have all the studies in the world showing that losing and keeping off a decent amount of weight is unfeasible for the *vast* majority of people (like >95%, our bodies have not evolved to shed pounds like that) and still fixate on poundage instead of encouraging healthy habits for healthy habits' sake.
34:15 "i go to japan... im not getting second looks, unless... people are looking at me.. in awe... SCARED, *FEARFUL.* " LMAOOO
The Fresh and fit guy is sooooo unbearable like listening to him talk is painful
Also him speaking on behalf of women is insane
Because even if every single person on this planet went to the gym and exercised, there would still be fat people. Why? Because there are more aspects about the human body that influences weight other than "Not eating as much." and to simplify it down to just that means you have no idea what you are talking about. These aren't excuses. These are uncontrollable things that can happen in life and is the result of many factors. Not just one controllable thing.
I think we shouldn’t weaponize the whole “it’s simple” argument against overweight individuals. On one hand it is very simple, it’s a matter of calories in vs Calories out. BUT that doesn’t mean it’s easy. It takes an incredible amount of discipline for someone who doesn’t have a fast metabolism to get down to 15% body fat or lower (the range where abs are showing). People will go to gym and work very hard, and then not have the discipline to eat in a calorie deficit because it’s hard. Almost everyone has the ability to be fit, but it’s just much harder for some than others. Those people will have to make sacrifices that other people don’t, which most aren’t willing to make.
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Lizzie lives a happier, healthier lifestyle than the Liver King. Why not play both sides of the argument
Justifying fat shaming is like validating a school bully
Depends on the type of bullying. Some bullying is necessary and make strong individuals.
@@JakeStarz. This is outdated thinking
@@thanasis-_- Nah, we don’t bully as much no more which is why people think they are a “they/them”.
@@JakeStarz.”think…. THEY are a They” XD bro couldn’t even misgender a fictional person
@@hollystop “They” as in a group. A individual person thinks their pronouns are “They/Them”.
You lack comprehension and critical thinking skills, I wouldn’t count on you to solve a problem for a kid🤣
Either you are pandering hard or you have a mental problem like the rest of the people.
As a woman it is so hilarious to hear men talk about what women find attractive😂
I don't know much about Myron, but I have to give a LOT of credit to Coach Greg. As someone who was 300 lbs. 3 years ago, today at 197 lbs., I owe a great deal of my progress and ability to keep it off to Coach Greg. I'll go to bat for him any day for changing my life and helping me and my son sustain our health and fitness.
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Where’s the SUPER blue eyed guy who does the gym culture call outs
RIGHT. Get Joey Swoll in here he is so positive and nice.
@@Nevy- Joey Swoll has slime green eyes btw
@@ElenasDadgood to know you look that intense at them.
My boy T ate smyron tf UP with the shame bit.
Myron sitting on his little stool with his hands folded in his lap is killing me🤣💀
Wait, we’re pretending attraction is a choice now? Can someone tell me when they decided their sexuality or how they decided to be attracted to someone?
It's super cringe they are trying to say just force yourself to be attracted to someone?
Average Hasan lefty thinks it is
well everyone has sexual sinful desires but i believe in the bible and the lord wants you to turn away from sinful desires and certain sexual desires fall under sinful and lust like being gay or have sex before marriage (sexual immorality) just because you have sinful urges does not mean you need to act on them. god makes it very clear its man and a women. and to diffuse the argument that someone would be unhappy with a partner of the oppisite sex because they wouldent be attracted to the opposite sex is stupid because if your truly living by how god wants you to live and how he told us to live you wont be unhappy because gods way is perfect because he is all knowing. with that being said also fufillment dosent soley come from physical attraction, you would find joy in someone who respects you, shared values and companionship and with someone who is trying to glorify god the same way you are
20 seconds in and its already crazy 😂😂😂😂
I would like to see these men running around a stage dancing, singing, and using a flute at the same time as Lizzo does.
Her athleticism is remarkable, she deserves her position at the top
I'm a bikini competitor in bodybuilding and my bf looks like the guys on the right. Beauty is so subjective and men DO NOT get it its so hilarious
Being attracted to someone is subjective but there are ONE THOUSAND percent types of people that are more PHYSICALLY appealing than others.
There isn’t some 50/50 subjective crowd over who is more physically attractive, Chris Hemsworth or Jack Black. Chris Hemsworth would obviously get over 95% of the votes. He OBJECTIVELY has traits that are more attractive than Jack Black. You can look at Chris and just KNOW “that’s a beautiful man”
They should've brought Tyler1 instead of Myron.
I can withstand Greg but endless spew of Myron is nearly unbearable lol
Yeah, with Greg he at least has a reason to be there & can mostly keep the conversation fitness based. But Myron is just there to say attention-seeking bullshit. It just derails the conversation
Fat kid got triggered by Myron
Get fit if you want him to stop talking😂. His goal is to be so annoying until you do the right thing. Myron is smart.
He is sacrificing his image to help lazy people. It’s working though
@@JakeStarz. the mental gymnastics you’re doing is crazy lmao
@@sarahb.8890 Believing that there are more than 2 genders is Crazy🤣
Myron's Emotional Intelligence needs to be studied by professionals xD
Nah. His lightweight and noone is paying us. 😂😂
Fresh and Fit dude is like a sentient Reddit post
Zach is such a lovely human. What a shame that he had to waste his time arguing into a void.
Myron of the Fresh and Fit podcast saying that we promote mediocrity is so deeply ironic.
Team big teddy bear type men any time!! Massive, gigantic, kind, considerate, and self aware! We should be so lucky! ❤😊
Love how he touches on the model industry before, as if models werent severely underweight to the point where many didnt have periods anymore and that still happens today. If they actually cared about health or knew anything actually factual, they wouldnt reference that era or industry
They don't actually care about people's health in that way, they only care about what your body represents not the actual function of it.
I knew Hasan was gonna cover this. I knew I should've just waited for him to post a reaction. Now I gotta rewatch this trainwreck. 🤣🙄
same bro 😂
A big problem is people equating fitness to bodybuilding. I know some round Mfs that can beat the ever loving shit out of some jacked dudes. Consistent exercise/training something (weights, jiujitsu, etc, anything really) will get you on the right track regardless of body type, you don’t have to be a bodybuilder to be strong and effective, body building is all about aesthetics above all else. As long as you can move around a lot without pain, and can efficiently get shit done physically, you’re fine.
Exactly, I think people forget bodybuilding is an aesthetic sport. My moms an ifbb pro and there is no way in hell she could look show day ready all year and be healthy
I had a body builder friend that had massive muscles, but he eat fast food like 5 times a day. No way is that healthy.
@@xmateinc the dirtiest of bulks
Confidence absolutely is the most important part, I got so much less attention when I was skinny and insecure than when I was fat and confident 🎉
I've been skinny all my life ( runs in the family) and then decided to train eat healthy and do more sport (crossfit and olympic diving). And now I'm still skinny (132lbs) lol. But I can do muscle ups, legless rope climbs. Bench 145lbs, clean 155lbs, deadlift 330lbs. I feel great. The body is just a vessel. Its the crazy things you can do with it that counts. Not only physical but also mentally. Doing arts/music/work.. whatever. Just try to have fun in live. A happy person is many times more attractieve than an angry/sad person.
I've never struggled with being over weight however i have noticed plenty of people feel like they can treat overweight people as less than and try to pass it off as motivation when really they're just trying to justify them being an a**hole. It's really sickening to see and it needs to be called out. The "fit" people in this video are just bullies that want to justify bullying.
Someone pin this
"i've talked to almost 3000 women" is a HILARIOUS statement
Battling for weight loss is truly hard for me but extremely easy for some of my friends bc they find it hard to gain weight. I just want to be functional and it’s only getting harder. I’m in my early thirties, so I’m starting to really understand aging effects on the body.
Hasan’s Greg Doucette impression killed me 😂
I dropped 40 pounds in 1.5 months but couldn’t keep it off unless I was consistently counting every calorie and hitting the gym multiple times a week. Once I lost the free time it came baxk
"An outward manifestation of your inadequacies" perfectly describes Myron's personality.
There are conventional standards that may influence attraction, but there are so many people that are into so many different things. Bodybuilders should be peak attraction but personally I find them a little scary like imagine if you get into an argument
Can't take any serious health advice from anyone who has or is using steroids that destroy your body.
Myron isn't using steroids, he has a normal physique
@@based4573 wasn’t talking about skinny twig boy
the only ones not on steroids and are not fat are the ones that disagree with you.
@@he.5865 Yeah its highly hypocritical to preach "health" while taking steroids.
@@fawn4271"SkINnY TwIg BoY" is actually 3% best male physiques🤓
at least they had a moderator this time GOD DAMN it took them long enough!!! but at the same time what is even the point of having a live moderator if they're just going to sit there knowing full well that those dudes don't actually care about having a conversation? like UGH it pisses me off so much it's just the same shit over and over again made to stir up outrage and get clicks, and make them money :/ so i guess i'm falling for the bait idk i just like watching hasan react to it, it's cathartic. i'll never support the channel directly though fuck jubilee. "radical empathy uwu" but we know FULL WELL who myron is and what he's about. we don't give A FUCK. why even ask "i've felt disgusted by a fat body" THAT'S SO FUCKEDDD LMAO like just so cruel for no reason. yeah let's invite this guy on to talk about how much he hates fat people and be charitable towards him, let's just have an open conversation!!!! ??
The fresh and fit guy literally made my braincells get fried.
Genuinely I cannot believe in a god that lets Myron live in good health
You never know, there could be a terminal cancer brewing in there somewhere
"Pushing the boundaries of medical innovation to look like a ninja turtle" is a WILD line
Myron literally subscribes to the idea of judging a book by its cover.
okay i have to disagree slightly with hasan, calorie tracking, while not inherently unhealthy, CAN lead to eating disorders, especially when it is heavily focused on. you should never say someone has an eating disorder just because they're trying to lose weight/gain muscle/etc and happen to count their calories as a strategy, but heavily focusing on calories, feeling guilty about calories, or obsessing over calories etc is really unhealthy
:( it's okay to eat fatty/high calorie foods from time to time. calories are energy, calories aren't the enemy, just make sure your diet is balanced with lots of fruits, veggies, grains, seeds, nuts, legumes, etc 🫶🏼❤️
Lmaooo your first comment about Hasan being hot, and then one day later you make a well articulated critique 😭😭 anyway you're 100% right and I think Hasan should educate himself more about eating disorders. I think it has to do with him being a cis straight man because when EDs do occur in cishet males (although statistically rare) they usually aren't perceived as EDs. Whereas for women, girls, and LGBTQ+ folks EDs are usually more common and well documented, either professionally or in their immediate communities.
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He’s met athletes. He will never be in shape like a 5’10 250 MLB. You can either look in shape or be in shape.
You don't even need to go overseas to see that attraction is subjective! Haven't these people heard of the phrase "What's your type?" I wonder where that came from
I have struggled with weight loss my whole life, and the people most helpful have been the ripped gym types. It gives me whiplash seeing ones say weird shit like Myron. In my life, they have always been the ones to compassionately suggest small healthier changes that feel possible. Instead of saying some shit like "stop eating 99% of your current diet and change your whole life over night" like a lot of people do, they will be like "let's order a medium instead of large" or "let's replace just X with Y for now." They understand the change has to feel possible.
Myron has a 400 M track star build. He isn’t even that fit clamored to the other guys there even compared to the Asian guy lol.
He shouldn’t even be taking so much and wouldn’t if he saw bigger guys across or even NFL linemen. Linemen are obviosiky a bit more fit but still a bit bigger than fit dudes. They would destroy him so bad.
He’s fit and more fit and athletic to me, but it doesn’t matter who is right or wrong but he’s a pathetic evil person inside.
I'm Team Thiccc, I'd pick any of them any day. We love intelligent, kind Kings who have a sense of style and self.
Can i just say the same here. I'm all supportive if he wants to work out but I looove big guys. Like really big ones, massive teddy bears - it's just a preference, ya know. 😊❤
@@darcyroyce And that reflects on your personality. You know that you'll never be able to lock in an attractive guy
@@Zen_Jung 😂😂😂 I've already locked an extremely athletic, extremely handsome guy for almost 10 years, my ex husband. He was the poster boy of lean, harmoniously muscular guy because his favourite and regular exercise was to run. I was much heavier back then than I am now and he married me, loved me, pampered me, all the good stuff. He had a jawline, green eyes, a head full of light brown hair, and a personality that all of these manosphere fools put together could not compete with. Please spear me your projection. And here's the mercy swipe... It only gets better from 44 onwards 😂😂❤️ we're at peak baby! 😘😘😘 But you wouldn't understand, it's grown up stuff, bless your heart. Sorry, I had to add that if you're a middle aged man, you are not on par, sexualy with a middle aged woman. It's ok though, we are loving you for more than your physical attractiveness. :))
@@Zen_Jungoooooor maybe beauty and attraction are subjective? or are you to small brained to understand things like nuance 😢
@@darcyroyce I am 27 and you're response is the exact response I see from way younger people. You're still operating like a dumb 18 yr old. 44 still using emojis.
Him calling Greg doucette clueless about health and fitness is hilarious lmao
- You ain’t lying SMH 🤦🏿♂️!
It's a bit interesting that Hasan is a gymrat, yet he seems pretty clueless about fitness stuff. With him, I guess it's playing to the audience a bit to not alienate them; but I really do feel like lefties willingly ignore all the science and data on health and fitness as cope. Like acceptance is big in the online left, so they will just stick their heads in the ground if it means not making themselves or others feel bad about believing factually incorrect information.
Yeah, Greg’s one of the most knowledgeable in the whole industry and I learned to be in shape because of his knowledge During the pandemic.
Almost choked on my breakfast when he called Greg "Gilbert Gottfried on Anavar"😂😂
Looking like a troll as I do has the big advantage that you know for sure that if people want to hang out with you and be with you and are interested in being in a relationship with you they do it because you're a nice person and not because you look hot. The advantages of being ugly are something that's often overlooked
Dude I love your commentaries they’re like the best entertainment out there
Myron probably got like three guys numbers so he definitely walked away with a W
😂😅🤣
Dude after 22 years of living I learned 2 WEEKS AGO that I have PCOS which if you know makes it so hard to lose weight. 4 years ago I weighed 115 in the next few years I went up to 260 and I just dropped to 150. If I would of known it would of made it way easier
I finally made it so early that there's no audio 🥹
They should’ve gotten Joey swole
Yup
5:56 "just like gunna" is crazy 🤣🤣
*Hasan watching a Jubilee video about physical appearance
Hasan: "The fact that no one is talking about personality and how you carry yourself is insane to me."
47:40 WHAT BEARD IS BRO STROKING 😂😂😂😂