Michigan in the Post-Harbaugh era, their QB Battle and more Takeaways from the Spring Game
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- Fox Sports’ lead college football analyst Joel Klatt gives his thoughts on Michigan after broadcasting their Spring Game and being around the program over the last week. He discusses the approach new Head Coach Sherrone Moore is taking in the post-Harbaugh era at Michigan. Klatt also points out players that stood out in the Spring Game and discusses the QB battle in Ann Arbor as the Wolverines replace J.J. McCarthy. He also takes a look at the gauntlet that the defending champs will face as they will take on 3 teams that could very well start in the Preseason Top 5 in Oregon, Ohio State and a Texas game on September 7th that will be televised on BIG NOON SATURDAY on FOX.
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0:00-1:27 Intro
1:28-11:13 Biggest takeaways
11:14-13:49 Players who stood out
13:50-17:25 Who has the edge in the QB battle?
17:26-17:55 Outro
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Michigan in the Post-Harbaugh era, their QB Battle and more Takeaways from the Spring Game
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What were your takeaways from the Spring Game?
I liked the defense personally, but also the moving of the ball down the field.
This is like Rocky II
Oline better than I had feared.
Been watching most of the spring games and Michigan looks the most polished so far. Their defense looked fast and physical, offense was fluid, the only question is who will be their starter.
Who doesn't like an Oriji?
What a privilege to have Joel klatt want to watch the Michigan spring game and have a breakdown for us….I love it
It's basically my Michigan channel these past few years. It's awesome.
Joel Klatt and Sam Webb are my two favorites.
That's NATIONAL CHAMPION privilege!
Go BUCKS
@@softjones3128 The Wold Famous Michigan Wolverines ©™ - owners of the tHE N🚫hi🚫 sTATE bUCKEYES. (TTDS)
Am I the only one who waits for the "it was an epic day" part of the intro and gets all excited??
Compliments on the post production team to time it perfectly!
I say it out loud like it's a Snoop Dogg lyric 😁
Yeah it's pretty rhymey 😂 gotta say though, I did notice the cadence changed from last year, especially where he says "for college football." This year, the cadence changes and it's not as musical. I will be getting tested for Asperger's, yes
I always want him to bust a flow afterwords.
I say it out loud too. Haha
@@michaelbrandon9791 🎵Gonna be an EPIC day 🎵 (Ice Cube)
Great analysis of the coaches and culture. Your show talks about the game and the people and not hot takes. Thank you, it’s refreshing
Matt Weiss, Chris Partridge, Alex Yood, Shoelace drinking and driving, and of Connor "spy glasses"Stallions. That's one heck of a culture. *
The biggest suprise to me was how good some of our young DB looked.
I appreciated how hard they seemed to be playing for a spring game. Can’t wait to see them go full speed again!
What were you watching? They used to play an actual game. Now they run thru a few plays and that's it.
You nailed it Joel. Harbaugh really tries to shed attention away from himself. How many times have we seen him get stopped by a reporter to answer a question and he passes the mic to a player? I love that man!
Yeah, same with the sign stealing, passed it on.
Been an M fan since 1969. Love what M Is all about, GOBLUE!!
1969 * Ditto! #GoBlue
If you’ve ever read Bo’s book or listened to some of his thoughts on organizations, this is his blueprint. His idea is basically the best people to carry on your culture are people who have grown in your culture
I have read Bo's book and you are absolutely correct.
I wish we would have felt that way when Carr retired.
My takes were Davis Warren looks like a pro prospect and has a cannon and is accurate on the run. Accurate when his first read isn't there. And Morgan says he can run 22 mph.
I know yall not trying too 😂 but yall just using so many microagressions
@@keynojuan what do you mean?
@keynojuan
@@timleineke1997 I actually ain’t even mean to comment directly under your comment but it’s the way everyone is explaining our QBs. Orji is the “athletic freak, maybe not the best pocket passer” and Davis & Tuttle are “safe and more accurate pro style”
@@keynojuanman…they acting like Orji was horrible. Warren benefited from a corner looking absolutely lost and Moore just burning the whole defense off a busted play.
The depth last year was a huge factor, even though we lost a lot of starters the new starters still have a lot of playing time.
I’m a die hard Michigan fan, and the last 3 years has been magical. My expectations are realistic; I see us as a 9-3 team or 10-2 at best. I expect us to compete and have a real shot at a playoff birth; however, this isn’t a National Title team in my estimation, but im still proud of the program.
Sounds about right, but I'm still gonna give the analysts a hard time if they pick against us and get it wrong, as is tradition.
They may still have a shot. We will see what the offense is able to do but I don’t think we are going to have much of a drop off on defense. Either way, I still think we are gonna bully the suckeyes and make it 4 in a row 😂
@@nickgarrett1784Ohio state looks loaded with talent this year but Michigan has proven we can beat them regardless of their star players.
My sentiments exactly. I can coast on the last 3 yrs for a little while!
@@nickgarrett1784what if my man… can you imagine it? A second victory in the shoe back to back to back to back! That would be magical
As a Msu fan, I am very interested to see how Michigan rebounds. Idk if they will repeat but the Spring game showed that the physicality and toughness has not left the program.
Go Sparty - Beat Yellow Pants!
16:53 Congrats on getting the Michigan-Texas week two game, Joel! Can't wait for it 🔥
Full props on doing your homework, Joel. I'm a 47-year huge fan and I dare say you know the overall personnel better than me. Great to hear your insights. Kudos.
I’ve been a diehard Michigan fan since the days of Rick Leach . Go Blue
Love Michigan, went to high school with the great Rick Leach
Flint Southwestern at Atwood. They had some great teams.
@@markblomquist1338 yes we did
Sorry the rose bowls didn’t turn out well
@@Jleed989 The grand daddy of them all, was/ is the best
Loved your commentary and insights during the Michigan Spring game. Thanks!
Liked your take on Michigan. Big fan of Blue but I can't help but think they will take a step back this year. As you noted....very tough schedule!
Me to. I always have hope but that was a perfect storm last year. I think we lose 3 but hope not.
"We" 😮 " FAN Of BLUE"😮 😂 troll alert
@@user-dy8fz1gv7u I thought 2022 team was a perfect storm. Olu Oluwatimu was a better center than Nugent- Nugent was a downgrade and it showed early in the season, but he stepped up and helped the team to a natty. Ronnie Bell, at the time, was a better receiver than Roman Wilson, but Wilson continued to develop and came up big in 2023. The 2023 team is the one that won it all. On paper, a lot of these guys look like downgrades from the 2023, but if they rise to the occasion, who knows? I am excited about this team and look out for a lot of these guys to step up in a big way.
We are standing at the pinnacle now so taking a step back is almost certain. We lost nearly the entire coaching staff and entire starting team. Still, I think they can still be a playoff team this year.
Harbaugh will always be a Michigan legend. Thanks to Bo discovering him
Thank you Joel Klatt! Love your breakdown on everything football. Your awesome! Go Blue!
Thanks Joel!! Appreciate all your content..
Simply the best in the business
Nothing has changed, everyone is different, but not really. The individuals involved are linked through teams, philosophy, technique, and experience and a culture of smash-mouth football. The individuals have all been hanging around the same locker room for years now in some way or other. So, while the faces have changed, the individuals haven't much changed and that's the magic there. The kids are going to work their butts off for Moore. They love him. And one thing that last year did in that crucible of suspensions and missing coaches was teach the players they are the team and they carry the program. It's going to be glorious, win or lose.
Imo Warren and Tuttle will continue the current system and battle for Qb1+backup in fall.
Meanwhile, Orji will practice lots of read option and will get 20-30% of snaps:
- red zone / inside the 10
- 3rd and short
- as change of pace
Jaden Davis redshirts.
Denegal: qb3, scout team unless he transfers.
I like this take except I still think Orji has a legitimate shot at being the full-time starter if he continues to progress in the offseason. Especially if we can’t get more receivers/pass protection is suspect with a whole new offensive line, Orji’s special athleticism could be more valuable than a polished passer.
@@henrysprague6764 The problem with that, as the last MGoBlog podcast discussed, is that we would have to change the system to optimize Orji (single wing, plenty of rpo's with live reads), and don't really have anyone to back him up in that unicorn role.
If we could get s. o. like the Bama qb as no2, things would be different, but going with Orji as the full time starter this year is just too much of a gamble on him not getting injured despite very heavy use in the run game.
I watched that Michigan spring game and as far as I can see as long as they have steady QB play they'll be right back where they were... with a legitimate chance to win b1g and go further.. good luck Wolverine's nation
Agreed 💯
Michigan still needs WR help and a little help in the secondary to help will Johnson out. QB play is still a question but has upside
agreed .that's why I said good luck wolverines
All I heard last season was you gotta beat the national Champs to become #1 what happened is that only for sec teams or something?
The back to back national champs you mean?
@@dragonsurge1
I’m a history buff too! You meant the former National Champs who couldn’t beat Alabama last year. You can’t play like Dawg sh_t and then continue to talk smack.
@@dragonsurge1felted by Nick Saban
Michigan has way more talent on the WR depth chart than I expected. More, Bell, Morgan, Morris will be elite across the middle. Need to find some depth behind them and figure which of these guys can win vertically down the field.
I hope Wink can control his blitz tendencies especially against better passing offenses. See Don Brown.
The real problem with Brown wasnt his blitzing.
It was the PREDICTABILITY that came from a lack of other options.
Wink will have plenty of options, both from a system POV, as well as from the players he has available.
I don't understand the connection??? How is wink blitzing like don?🤔
@positroll7870 this is spot on. Also, I believe that Mattison/Washington helped prepare OSU shred DB. I think it was Barrett that went untouched by the team that led the nation in sacks. Yeah, that's suspect.
Wink said he has listened to the current players and staff , and they have good ideas that he will adopt .
@@positroll7870in '16, '17, '18
Don Brown did mostly man blitz schemes. Against inferior opponents it was dominate but got touched by outside speed. I believe in '19 and '20 Don Brown felt the heat and changed his scheme to a lot more zone coverage while still blitzing a whole bunch. And that didn't work either.
Michigan's best chance with a Don Brown defense was 2016 when JT was short.
As a finely aged college football fan that Michigan schedule makes my pants tight.
Wow , the comment section, has turned into nothing but Ohio State hate against Michigan but I watched the Ohio State spring game it was nothing but flag football !!!! Ryan Day is running around saying how tough they are but Michigan for there spring game goes out and plays tackle football. That’s the difference between Michigan and Ohio State. Michigan is physically”smash” football and Ohio State is flag football watch me catch a pass and not get tackled and score at touchdown. Time will tell I think Michigan Wolverines will make the playoffs!!!!
OSU always gonna hate especially now... the Wolverine's don't care..keep grinding
I don't think I've ever heard "Jim Harbaugh" and "humility" in the same sentence before. I guess we'll see how Michigan holds up in Week 2 when Texas comes to town. It may be an opportunity for everyone at Michigan to develop some humility.
I just wonder what QB we use.
I think Orji and Warren looked like 1A 1B
Imo Warren and Tuttle will continue the current system and battle for Qb1+backup in fall.
Meanwhile, Orji will practice lots of read option and will get 20-30% of snaps:
- red zone / inside the 10
- 3rd and short
- as change of pace
Jayden Davis redshirts.
Denegal: qb3, scout team unless he transfers.
Warren looked really good. I know it’s only one practice but his foot work and accuracy looked way more advanced than the other guys.
That may depend on how the whole team develops, especially our wide receivers and offensive line
Connor Stalions.
Davis Warren reminds me of JJ McCarthy - they way he scrambles and throws deep balls. Michigan should used both QB's for the first couple of games and see how they perform before deciding.
I'm hoping that Donovan Edwards will have a smashout year...I still watch the highlight reels of the '22 OSU and '24 Washington games. As a matter of fact, I'll be watching those highlights until I'm buried 6 feet under. Go Blue, and go Donovan!!
That schedule, insanity plus penn st gonna be tough
Am I alone in thinking Tuttle>Orji at least for this year? I liked what I saw from Tuttle last year
Tuttle is good people have forgotten the last spring game
Hi Joel - what books on leadership do you recommend?
"The Power of Negative Thinking" by Bobby Knight is actually pretty good.
Also, Joel's talk on the culture AFTER the key leader leaves sounds like Dr John C. Maxwell, who has been teaching leadership since 1976. Maxwell has written dozens of books on leadership. He runs the Injoy organization.
I just watched the Spring Game last night, and I have to honestly say, Michigan looks really good. By far the best-looking team I've seen so far...
Mullins and Edwards ...... all day everyday all year get ready B1G 4-peat incoming
❤ My wolverines and Joel Klatt's coverage.
Morning Joe!
Great analysis, especially for a Colorado graduate 😂
Remember Tuttle was a 5 star in N. Schl!!
〽ichigan has a tough schedule and Texas was a playoff team. They have to show up and show out or they will be seeing the Longhorns tail lights.
Many years they have been less than impressive the opening weeks and then build as the season goes on - that cannot happen with this schedule.
No sense in prognosticating the game in Columbus because that late in the season we have no idea who will be healthy or not.
I knew Joel Klatt was going to feel compelled to mention at the beginning that he had done the same thing for OSU. 🤣
I look for three QBs (Alex Orji, Davis Warren, and Jack Tuttle) to all play meaningful snaps against Texas. Yes, it’s a high profile game whose winner will have a leg up over the competition when the 12 teams are selected for the playoffs. However, I anticipate Coach Móore will choose to use the opportunity to make the Texas game as the final exam in the QB competition. It would not surprise me if even freshman Jadyn Davis gets in the game in the 4th quarter if either team gains a commanding lead.
If we are playing 4 quarterbacks vs. Texas, we are losing that game
@@lukecalhoun6569 Actually, its probably more likely that Michigan has a comfortable lead when putting in a 3rd and 4th QB.
As a huge Michigan fan and having watched the way they had those kids playing last year, I feel like the culture could carry us to more special things. Just like the Detroit Lions we may not have the best players but we’re going to outwork you, take you out to the deep end and drown you. I absolutely expect a playoff appearance at minimum. Might be wishful thinking but I think the culture Harbaugh built can’t be overlooked.
The deep end drowning cliche was some Mel Tucker bs.
Playoff appearance at best…Oregon, Ohio State and Penn State are all locks to make the playoffs. Michigans schedule will be a gauntlet
Love the podcast, Joel. Read the book "Leadership and Emotional Sabatoge" by Joe Rigney. Best book on leadership I have ever read.
id have warren number 1 orgi num 2 but put in special packages for him
Go Blue!
Defense should be really, really good. QB and WR will be the question. We desperately need a couple of beasty WRs.
I can't wait for the Irish first game with Leonard
About the qb battle. It’s a good thing. McCarthy vs McNamara. Brady vs everyone on the team. Let them battle it out. In the age of nil and transfer portal best one gets the job
Thank you for sending Harbaugh to the chargers!
Never have a program that’s built around the coach. Always have the coach build around the program. Ohio state has been the embodiment of that, we’ll see if Michigan and Alabama can do the same.
Nobody talking about Jayden Davis yet?
No man is bigger than the team, no coach is bigget than the team.
Michigan has a brutal schedule in 2024, they will be challenged and battle hardened by the end of the season. Replacing 10 starters on offense is the glaring task. If they figure it out with game experience but they are possibly going to drop a game somewhere on that schedule , expect that but their defense absolutely needs to carry the team especially early in the season till the offense gets it's identity through games. Any players can look good in practice and drills but let's see how they do when it's live and real. If they make the playoffs that would be a major accomplishment. Just don't know with this team could be 9-4 or only 1 loss or undefeated it's really going to be interesting for us Michigan fans.
Hoping for the 12 spot! Go Blue!
Put Warren and Orji in the backfield together on 25% of plays, gives huge options 🏈🏆
Love it. Use wildcat formation with both and snap could go ego either Warren or Orji a with options for either player to pass or run.
Defense is gonna be even better than last year and I’ll put my money where my mouth is on that one
Mike Hart should be HC. The running game became best in the nation after he got here.
GO BLUE!!! Nobody but Ohio st pays for individual talent!!!
Go Blue! AA is much better than that cess- pool down in Columbus isn't it? Thanks Joel
Go Blue. #RUNITBACK
no matter what, Michigan is going to have a crash back down to reality. that feels inevitable. Doesn't help either that Michigan State hired a good coach and Ohio State reloaded (plus, The Game is in Columbus)
the difference is, will Michigan still be able to rebound and still take care of business? We shall see.
If Day loses again to Michigan without Harbaugh, will that put him on the hot seat?
That’s the catch dude averages 1 maybe 2 losses a season including post firing him because he looses to Michigan will cause a cascade effect other coaches will look at that job and say the standard is unrealistic they run the risk of hireing the OSU version of rich rod or even worse Brady hoke
@@SJstackinbodys I don't think it would happen but every year since they have been losing to Michigan I hear buckeye fans upset at him because of the Michigan L's.
@@frozenfalcon253 I know and I do think that if he doesn’t win again this year (news flash I think he won’t simply because Michigan even from the spring game is a more physical team watch both like I did and you will see what I mean) I do think he will be fired
Let's go BLUE!!!
I heard Ryan day is already 0-1 vs this new coach
😂
The defense will be great again, the oline and RBs will be good. the wide receivers have potential. Quarterback is gonna be back at being mediocre like cade was. Big worry right now is kicker...
Leaders lead, and M is reloading.
as a Michigan fan will they be as good? No. However they left a legacy I believe can be followed. I NEVER thought I would see Michigan win a national championship and they proved me wrong. Hope they do it again but I'm forever thankful for team 144. Go Blue!
Jack Tuttle could be in the mix as well. Out of high school, he was ranked higher than Joe Milton, Sam Hartman, Michael Penix, Cam Rising, Will Levis, Brock Purdy, Zach Wilson. Warren was impressive during the spring game but in a real game last year wasn’t that great. Maybe they give Orji, Warren and Tuttle all a chance against Fresno State but will have to have a guy for the Texas game. Their first 5-6 games are at home.
How did he end up at Indiana?
@@Jleed989 He was at Utah first and enrolled then went to Indiana. I assume Kalen Daboer was the OC?
UM win/loss over/under is 9.5. Take the Under if you value your $$$$.
Who replaces Connor Stalions? Now we have helmet communication. I'm concerned we can't steal signs anymore. How can we remedy this, Joel?
Aww keep crying 😂
Who ever the QB is and if they we good 12-0, that person is the Heisman.
Go Blue 🏈🏆
TE Marlin Klein is listed at 6.6 250. He runs a 4.35/4.4 40? Stop the nonsense.
Jj vs cade again...
Some call it continuity, others call it too lazy to evolve. Let’s see how this social experiment works.
I think the RB coach is a plant from Ryan Day to learn a pro style system
hedgehog plan with a level 5 leader
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Say what! 90% of #1 D is bk! Expert O line, best TE combo on Loveland and Klein, Promoted HD been there fr yrs! Top PC returns!
AS Eva wld say: "Don't cry fr me Michigan!" or C'mon Klatt!
Take a look at all the 3 star guys Michigan had and bumped them up to another level...while Ohio state always has the better recruits and can't keep up when it comes to defense....we shall see that D when it travels to Oregon....that game is a must watch.
It's not just highly rated players. It is coaching and in Michigans case, having an elaborate sign stealing system for 3 yrs.
@@brandonwoundpickups ...everyone steals signs......everyone...gimme a break
3 losses min
#10 if he could learn to throw on the run he would be the next Patrick mahomes if they let him breathe
Harbaugh was so loyal and steadfast, that he interviewed with the Vikings on National signing day.
He told the school 7 years when he signed. Kept his word. No takers so he came back and won a championship. Urban Meyer groped young women in a Columbus bar.
🧂
@@blue888ful
😂😂😂😂😂
They keep pitching; you keep swinging! Nice hit!
he gave Michigan 10 years of his life coaching and 4 more playing . he has dreams too. and should live them out. you expect him to stay forever?
without looking at the comments, let me guess: most of the comments are from duh osu fans still waiting for the 'hammer' to fall...
meanwhile marquise davis has two crystal balls suggesting a michigan commit suggesting that duh osu fans insisting that alford could no longer recruit were merely expressing denial - which is a known stage of grief.
Sorry Joel, Ryan Day is fading.
.500 team at best
But Joel, all of those players and many of those coaches exhibiting that culture are all gone. Add to this the fact that the schedule is much more difficult and there is no way they can reduplicate that success. But even more important is no JJ McCarthy and nothing remotely close(and Jack Tuttle is not HIM). All good opponents will do is stack the box and cover the WRs one -on -one. I doubt UM is better than 8-4 or 9-3 at best. This is not good enough to make the playoffs.
I will consider 2024 a huge success if Michigan beats Ohio State or if Michigan makes it into the expanded playoffs. Whoever wins the conference championship automatically gets into the expanded playoff so I did not include it separately.
Can we get Big Evening Kickoff on Fox?? A shame that this TV contract is forcing these marque matchups into the noon slot when would otherwise without a doubt be played at night
Ah don't worry. Once Michigan loses to Texas very early on...the burden of defending the national championship will be lifted and we can just enjoy a typical Michigan season, probably with at least one other loss (to the school down South...)
lol the coaches you speak of that continued to be good after a great coach left is because they still have the great coaches players….the ones that fail are the ones that can’t recruit…
Joel, I like listening to you BUT..... could you amp down the hype and shilling a little? It's a DRAFT, not a season. It's spring games that don't matter. It's NOT a 'golden age,' in college. It's a deterioration of traditions, of rivalries and probably of the game itself. Those of us who once loved our local university and their underdog chances NOW just realize that we were un-consulted, and unimportant. Our loyalty to schools and teams who have no loyalty of any kind to US was a last straw for many of us.
Michigan looks scary ngl. Their defense looks great
It's not hard to argue at all, Joel. They broke rules. They cheated. They had an unfair advantage. Any team could win if they knew the next play coming. Give me a break. Harbaugh bails as fast as anyone could. What's that tell you, Joel?
Seriously. You lost 44 seniors and have an untested coaching staff with possibly a walk on QB starting. If you don’t lose 5 games and don’t get slaughtered by OSU it would be some sort of Devine intervention or the biggest miracle recorded in the 21st century period. Either way it’s over for 2024. Stop the crazy talk.
All I saw in your comment was crazy talk. That sums it up