I head out for a Sunday cruise on the PR7 and decided it was time I did a review on the PR7. I have done 10,000 kms on the PR7 so I feel qualified to make comment and offer you my thoughts.
Thanks for putting this video together! This bike is what a large number of us adventure riders here in Australia are looking for! Hope we only see more of these around and AJP just look at making some fine adjustments like they had done with the 2021 + model allowing very little R&D on fine tuning and concentrate on selling a quality/competitive product option which has good dealer network that is going to be around for the next 10 - 15 years, as in my eyes would fill the void in the market!
I totally agree with you on preferring the simpler, non-computer driven new bikes. I love my 2017 KTM 1090R and 2023 KTM 350 EXC-F for that reason. Great video, thanks for sharing!
Lol yeah the AJP have put their prices up when all other manufacturers are squeezing them down. Great time to buy a new bike from the likes of KTM,Gas Gas or Husqvarna they are keeping prices down. Thanks for watching Regards Steve
A lot of good advice here. He is spot on re the weights, my old DR set up for dirt touring weighed 185kg. I also felt that the Dr was too gutless for highway work and converted it to a 790. Many people have said the PR7 is the bike that Japan should have made. Pity, it would be a top seller year in year out but will never happen.
Yeah great shame that Japan has dropped the ball when it comes to mid size ADV bikes. The Tenere is just a bit too heavy for my liking. Happy with the 790? I like that offering shame they dropped it....
@@dirtbikeadv I went to Team Orange, turned a 500 into an adventure bike. 130 kg + luggage, it is 50 kg lighter than my similar DR790 and can’t be bettered on dirt. I also have a 22 690 which is a lot better on the road than the 500.
@@MrEtnorb oh ok didn't know there was a big bore kit for the DR.. there you go. Yeah Ive got a stock 500 Sherco I use for a bit of local ADV and enduro and the PR7. 690's are great option as well very powerful and do the hwy KMs easy Regards Steve
What country do you live in for the DR to be gutless for the highway. I'm in Australia and the speed limit is 110kph. The DR will idle along at those speeds with ease and still have plenty of oomph for overtaking.
Yeah they got a lot right with this bike in my opinion. Very low centre of gravity and no abs, traction control, stand sensor etc Thanks for watching Regards Steve
No problem with clutch chug these engines are known for? As for the pump if you ride in dusty conditions or deal with bad gas just carry and replace the fuel filter. I had mine washed at 40k miles it is a common size. Also the starter positive brush was gone at 42K but my Superdual was suffering from flameouts
By clutch chug I assume you mean it being a bit grippy when engaged? Mine doesn't suffer this I can push the bike backwards in first gear with the engine running. There is a snatchyness off the bottom? Mine has that not really worrying me but probably buy a ADV Eng ECU at some stage. Yeah good advice on the fuel filter I will do exactly that. A starter motor brush going at 42K is not a huge concern but I will pull apart and have a look at some stage. Absolutely no flame out for me but I have heard of this with some of the earlier PR7's Thanks for watching. Regards Steve
@@dirtbikeadv clutch chug is when clutch becomes jerky at engagement at certain rpms, in my case it was reproducible when you take off traffic light. Made slipping clutch very difficult. Google Husqvarna TE-630 clutch for more details
Hey buddy, today I tried to remove the GPR end can from the stock exhaust tubes. Thing is properly stuck, isn't even budging. How on earth did you manage to get it off?
Hi Johannes, not sure what you mean. Are removing the section of exhaust just below the oxygen sensor so you can replace the exposed section of pipe? If so there is a flared join that is welded I simply ground away the welds and the flared piece came away from memory. If you are working on the muffler I haven't touched mine it is stock????
muffler is the correct word, the silver piece at the very end there. It looks like you're running the power up exhaust/headers, but with the GPR muffler, so I assumed you swapped it over..
Hi Eric, yeah the tablet is an older model Is but doubt there available any more. AJP are currently running a Samsung tablet. But yeah it's just a matter of finding a tablet with the right dimensions really. AJP have a little bit of there own software on it which I'm sure you would be able to download load. Thork Racing have a full suite of obd and navigation packages that will work on the PR7 as well. I just have a Hema Maps downloaded version and that's it. Of course U can hotspot phone or connect via wifi and use as a standard tablet as well Thanks for watching Regards Steve
Hi Alan, yeah parts no problem the Australian importer has stock and is responsible with questions etc. I enquired re getting a LED indicators upgrade and they contacted the factory and quoted it up for me. Bought a few parts already and arrived within a week with shipping details provided etc. Seat height is 935 I think very similar to 690/701. There is lowering links available if U need to lower it. I'm 6 foot and it is perfect for me. Yeah they are ready to go out of the box all built and fitted by the factory so it's done really well. All you really need is a rack. Now having said that I have since fitted crash bars for some extra fuel luggage restraint and depending how U navigate U may want to fit a GPS. I'm a paper map type of guy so the tablet with Hema maps is perfect for me Regards Steve
@@alanzammit750 Yeah mine had done 16,000 KMs when I bought it and I've done another 10,000. That was the reason for the review felt like I'd owned it long enough to make comments
Hi Chris, yeah done 3000kms so far and I reckon 4000 like yours will see it done. Nice quiet tyre and grips well so probably get another I reckon. The crash bars are really about carrying a bit more luggage than crash protection to be honest. Going to do some bigger trips where I'll carry a fuel Bladder dropped over the air box. It's also about looks I think they make the bike look a bit more rugged. Simple install 4 bolts and your done. Mine are the Crosspro and they fitted perfect.
Hi James, yeah low 170kgs with rack but no luggage. Yeah seat height of 920mm but soft suspension so once you sit on it, it will drop a bit. There is lowering links available but sit on one first and see how U go. Remember these bikes are not top heavy, fuel is down low so easy to keep upright Thanks for watching Regards Steve
@@dirtbikeadv It more compares to a BMW G650 gs Sertao . But you can get good used sertao for 5,000 dollars with around 4,000 miles on them . Better seat comfort more HP Heated grips stock, ABS on or off switch standard . Best 650 cc motor ever built . You can buy 2 G650 gs's for the price of 1 pr7.
@@dirtbikeadv The pr7 is aimed at the middle age adventure rider and I think with the 48 hp 600 cc engine and almost 400 lbs the seat does not match the bike . Its to narrow and a narrow seat no matter how soft kills your butt within 5 miles . If they would make a long travel comfortable seat that people over 30 years old would appreciate like whats on the BMW sertao or the bmw F series or the gs series as a option or standard I think this bike could do really good in todays market . BMW stopped making the 650 cc a few years back so they now go from a 300cc and jump right up to the 800cc That leaves the 600 to 650 cc market wide open . If they could get there price down to around the klr 650 range just for a year or two and offer a good long warranty I think it would really sale like crazy in the USA .
Thanks for putting this video together!
This bike is what a large number of us adventure riders here in Australia are looking for! Hope we only see more of these around and AJP just look at making some fine adjustments like they had done with the 2021 + model allowing very little R&D on fine tuning and concentrate on selling a quality/competitive product option which has good dealer network that is going to be around for the next 10 - 15 years, as in my eyes would fill the void in the market!
Thanks Dan. Going to do part 2 of the SPR today about how it rides and handles etc. Vid up in the next couple of days
I totally agree with you on preferring the simpler, non-computer driven new bikes. I love my 2017 KTM 1090R and 2023 KTM 350 EXC-F for that reason. Great video, thanks for sharing!
May have found my dr650 replacement next year, depending on parts availability I can find for it in the US.
@@imountainman Yeah very similar style bike easy to get along with and pretty simple
Thanks for watching Regards Steve
I had a heart attack for a second when you said $20k. Then I remembered you’re not in America. Whew!
Lol yeah the AJP have put their prices up when all other manufacturers are squeezing them down. Great time to buy a new bike from the likes of KTM,Gas Gas or Husqvarna they are keeping prices down. Thanks for watching
Regards Steve
A lot of good advice here. He is spot on re the weights, my old DR set up for dirt touring weighed 185kg. I also felt that the Dr was too gutless for highway work and converted it to a 790. Many people have said the PR7 is the bike that Japan should have made. Pity, it would be a top seller year in year out but will never happen.
Yeah great shame that Japan has dropped the ball when it comes to mid size ADV bikes. The Tenere is just a bit too heavy for my liking. Happy with the 790? I like that offering shame they dropped it....
@@dirtbikeadv I went to Team Orange, turned a 500 into an adventure bike. 130 kg + luggage, it is 50 kg lighter than my similar DR790 and can’t be bettered on dirt. I also have a 22 690 which is a lot better on the road than the 500.
@@MrEtnorb oh ok didn't know there was a big bore kit for the DR.. there you go. Yeah Ive got a stock 500 Sherco I use for a bit of local ADV and enduro and the PR7. 690's are great option as well very powerful and do the hwy KMs easy
Regards Steve
What country do you live in for the DR to be gutless for the highway. I'm in Australia and the speed limit is 110kph. The DR will idle along at those speeds with ease and still have plenty of oomph for overtaking.
Looks like a great bike, definitely one I'd like to give a shot one day!
Yeah just a bit simpler bike which I like. Head out to Warragul one day and we'll swap ADV bikes for the day 😉
Ah, not far from me, my side of town!@@dirtbikeadv
Love simple. Dont need more crap to go wrong. Also the tank more under the seat than in the rear .
Yeah they got a lot right with this bike in my opinion. Very low centre of gravity and no abs, traction control, stand sensor etc
Thanks for watching
Regards Steve
Nice one !
No problem with clutch chug these engines are known for?
As for the pump if you ride in dusty conditions or deal with bad gas just carry and replace the fuel filter. I had mine washed at 40k miles it is a common size.
Also the starter positive brush was gone at 42K but my Superdual was suffering from flameouts
By clutch chug I assume you mean it being a bit grippy when engaged? Mine doesn't suffer this I can push the bike backwards in first gear with the engine running. There is a snatchyness off the bottom? Mine has that not really worrying me but probably buy a ADV Eng ECU at some stage. Yeah good advice on the fuel filter I will do exactly that. A starter motor brush going at 42K is not a huge concern but I will pull apart and have a look at some stage. Absolutely no flame out for me but I have heard of this with some of the earlier PR7's
Thanks for watching. Regards Steve
@@dirtbikeadv clutch chug is when clutch becomes jerky at engagement at certain rpms, in my case it was reproducible when you take off traffic light. Made slipping clutch very difficult. Google Husqvarna TE-630 clutch for more details
Kove 450 Rally is in direct competition ....
Yeah interesting bike. Rieju have a 450 rally as well
Hey buddy, today I tried to remove the GPR end can from the stock exhaust tubes. Thing is properly stuck, isn't even budging. How on earth did you manage to get it off?
Hi Johannes, not sure what you mean. Are removing the section of exhaust just below the oxygen sensor so you can replace the exposed section of pipe? If so there is a flared join that is welded I simply ground away the welds and the flared piece came away from memory. If you are working on the muffler I haven't touched mine it is stock????
muffler is the correct word, the silver piece at the very end there. It looks like you're running the power up exhaust/headers, but with the GPR muffler, so I assumed you swapped it over..
@@JohannesDalenMC sorry bud I think mine is stock lol...
Hi, What model tablet are these running? Any good? Are there other budget tablet options if you crash and break it?
Hi Eric, yeah the tablet is an older model Is but doubt there available any more. AJP are currently running a Samsung tablet. But yeah it's just a matter of finding a tablet with the right dimensions really. AJP have a little bit of there own software on it which I'm sure you would be able to download load. Thork Racing have a full suite of obd and navigation packages that will work on the PR7 as well. I just have a Hema Maps downloaded version and that's it. Of course U can hotspot phone or connect via wifi and use as a standard tablet as well
Thanks for watching
Regards Steve
Will this bike finish a Paris - Dakar??
Don't see any reason why not!
Have they not updated it since 2017?
They have but only minor changes. Different decals, ecu, bigger battery, different tablet and software, led indicators, Brembo brakes.
How do you go with parts availability for the Ajp and how’s the seat height?
They certainly look very well set up straight out of the box 👌
Hi Alan, yeah parts no problem the Australian importer has stock and is responsible with questions etc. I enquired re getting a LED indicators upgrade and they contacted the factory and quoted it up for me. Bought a few parts already and arrived within a week with shipping details provided etc. Seat height is 935 I think very similar to 690/701. There is lowering links available if U need to lower it. I'm 6 foot and it is perfect for me. Yeah they are ready to go out of the box all built and fitted by the factory so it's done really well. All you really need is a rack. Now having said that I have since fitted crash bars for some extra fuel luggage restraint and depending how U navigate U may want to fit a GPS. I'm a paper map type of guy so the tablet with Hema maps is perfect for me
Regards Steve
Yeah would definitely need to lower, atleast there’s way more travel in suspension than the 690/701 after lowering..
Has yours done many kms?
@@alanzammit750 Yeah mine had done 16,000 KMs when I bought it and I've done another 10,000. That was the reason for the review felt like I'd owned it long enough to make comments
Hows the rear tyre holding up. My Motoz RallZ is just about done with 4k on it. Hows the crash bars going? Easy install?
Hi Chris, yeah done 3000kms so far and I reckon 4000 like yours will see it done. Nice quiet tyre and grips well so probably get another I reckon. The crash bars are really about carrying a bit more luggage than crash protection to be honest. Going to do some bigger trips where I'll carry a fuel Bladder dropped over the air box. It's also about looks I think they make the bike look a bit more rugged. Simple install 4 bolts and your done. Mine are the Crosspro and they fitted perfect.
@@dirtbikeadv Where they sourced locally or from over seas.
@@Chris_Z. Yeah from MotoInn in Netherlands which no longer list them so I think you'd have to get them from Thork Racing or similar in Europe
How much does it weigh? Im 5 foot 7/8 and worried about the height
Hi James, yeah low 170kgs with rack but no luggage. Yeah seat height of 920mm but soft suspension so once you sit on it, it will drop a bit. There is lowering links available but sit on one first and see how U go. Remember these bikes are not top heavy, fuel is down low so easy to keep upright
Thanks for watching
Regards Steve
In the USA its 11,299.00
Yeah ok.Where does that rate compared to a BMW 900 or a KTM 890?
@@dirtbikeadv It more compares to a BMW G650 gs Sertao . But you can get good used sertao for 5,000 dollars with around 4,000 miles on them . Better seat comfort more HP Heated grips stock, ABS on or off switch standard . Best 650 cc motor ever built . You can buy 2 G650 gs's for the price of 1 pr7.
@@Sertao2013 Yeah I rate the Sertao. Test rode one once in fact but went another direction. Great bike second hand as well. Very good bang for buck.
@@dirtbikeadv The pr7 is aimed at the middle age adventure rider and I think with the 48 hp 600 cc engine and almost 400 lbs the seat does not match the bike . Its to narrow and a narrow seat no matter how soft kills your butt within 5 miles . If they would make a long travel comfortable seat that people over 30 years old would appreciate like whats on the BMW sertao or the bmw F series or the gs series as a option or standard I think this bike could do really good in todays market . BMW stopped making the 650 cc a few years back so they now go from a 300cc and jump right up to the 800cc That leaves the 600 to 650 cc market wide open . If they could get there price down to around the klr 650 range just for a year or two and offer a good long warranty I think it would really sale like crazy in the USA .
You have to ride it to know for sure, I guess like with any other bike. @@Sertao2013