I Bought The Adventure Bike Nobody Else Wants.. The AJP PR7!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Hey team!
So after many restless nights stressing on what lightweight adventure bike I wanted (first world problems) I finally committed myself to the Portuguese beauty that is the AJP PR7.
Here are my first impressions of the bike.. spoiler alert, I LOVE IT!
So enjoy, and don't forget to leave a comment, like the video and if you're really feeling in the mood, hit that subscribe button!
See you soon. JW
I got mine in april this year... put 10,000kms on it already, it's done everything from mountain passes on gravel in Croatia, edge of the tyre twisties in Albania and Montenegro to wet days on the west coast of ireland... nothing has gone wrong or fell off, its donev600km autobahn runs at 110kmh and crawled up mountains...14deg and rain to 40deg roasting.... I absolutely love it, comfy, grunty and it ain't a KTM
That’s super impressive 👏🏻👏🏻 Absolutely, the thing is so impressive. Ride safe mate!
Great bike the PR7. Test rode it first time this spring. It's on my want-list. Keep us posted with your experience.
I will do! I’ve been watching a lot of your stuff recently, it’s great 👏🏻 you’re currently influencing my choice on Nav.. very tempted to the DMD Tab.
@@James_Rides Awesome :) Look out for the upgraded T865 tab. It's brighter and faster. And do get a handlebar controller. It's like mind reading on the nav when you get used to it.
You should put another bike at the top of your " want " list.
@@Matthew-wn8oq something you want on my list? 😊
@@NomadSweden knowing your taste in bikes , I'm sure I'd be interested in a few 😁
Hi James, great review mate. For me I'll take the PR7 over a Kove any time. The PR7 has an Italian designed and built engine and is essentially a hand made bike from a boutique factory in Portugal. Light, easy to work on, set up from the factory for touring. They were thinking of blokes like you and me when they designed it, Regards Steve
Thanks so much Steve 💪🏼 Same.. I wouldn’t rule a Kove out, but probably in 5 years! I saw a few of your videos too mate, great work. Safe riding mate 🤜🏼🤛🏼
I would rather modify a 500 EXC, with parts available almost everywhere than cross my fingers and hope that nothing breaks on the bike for which I paid a premium because it happens to be 'hand-made" (out of parts they combined from here and there).
I’ve never owned a 500 exc but I have had a couple of 300s along the way, engine aside they don’t even compare. This is a much less aggressive chassis, a more mellow comfortable position. And the motor isn’t a race thoroughbred, again a more pleasant easy ride.
In terms of parts combined.. other than the motor and chassis it’s all off shelf components, nothing particularly strange. And parts seem readily available, I admittedly can’t just nip to a dealer in 20 minutes but these days a part is just an internet click away.
Modifying a 500? Sure, costly though and not ever going to one as comfortable for actual touring. And compare service intervals..😅
@@ozadv People have gone around the world with adventurized 500s and for touring the service intervals are not the same as the factory suggestions for track use/race. Not even close. OIl changes every 40 hours (instead of 15) and the oil still looks new. It's a 15 minute deal.
Valves never ever move under these riding conditions so no messing with them either. There's a guy who went around the world and only did a precautionary engine job at around 50K kms and the bike is currently over 100K kms on the odometer. He's a New Zealander.
P.S. They are much more comfortable than the PR7 with a modified seat. I own a 500 and have sat on a PR7 (and I'm ergonomically challenged - very tall).
Congrats on the new bike! I bought mine in 2021, and I am loving it too...
Awesome!! Thankyou 🙌🏻
Nobody wants? Lots of people around the world want this bike but cant because its either hard to get in some countries or not even road legal for some of us. Saying nobody wants it sounds like a cheeky clickbait title.
Well.. i can only speak for the UK.. but it very much seems from the Facebook groups and such, that people are still very sceptical of buying one. The title is definitely there to get attention though, you’re right.
My first bike after a massive gap in riding was a PR4 I bought for green laning and messing about in the woods, fantastic bikes Id happily get another one
That’s good to hear! 🙌🏻
Got a 4 and a 7😊
They are brilliant.
I had a lot of the niggles with my 2020 bike, but its a great machine!
The PR7 is comfortable, ergonomics suited to longer distance days, great ground clearance and a lower seat.
Easier to ride in the trails.
Downside - the exhaust routing - upgrade the bashplate!
I’m going on my first multi day trip soon. Can’t wait to give it a real shakedown!
Best choice you made! ...not because I'm Portuguese😅, but it's great bike, built as a tank!
I love it!
Love the vid. I'm getting ready to retire my 990 and want a lighter ADV bike for smaller singletrack and more sand. Great to hear you had a good experience.
Thankyou! 🙌🏻 I think coming from the 990 you’ll love it. More of the same I expect!
They look a great bike do the PR7, sat on one in a ktm dealer in Spain, i like my obscure and rare bikes, currently own a Husky TE511 and a TE449, which are also great bikes. one day ill buy a PR7, they are rarely up for sale used.
And you bought a outstanding machine...
Thankyou 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hi James loved your first ride and passion🤙 go on reviewing the Pr7 it's a wonderful weapon❤️
Thankyou so much! 🙏🏻 It really is.
You make a great point about the "make it your own" theory with the 690 bikes. Everyone does just about the same thing. This bike has been on a my radar for a few years now. Just waiting for them to be street legal here in the states. Good job on the video
Such a shame they’re not legal over there!What’s the reason?
@@James_Rides they have yet to go through emissions testing. To my knowledge it's happening as we speak. They are surely over priced over here so I don't think they will stick around very long. As long as I can get my hands on one I have no worries buying parts from over seas
Yeah, I think parts availability isn’t an issue now. Production has been going on long enough to build a good supply. If you manage to get your hands on one you’ll love it.
I orderd my PR7 today, it´s a Testbike for Austria
Oh amazing! Hope you enjoy it, it’s such a fun bike to ride. 🔥
Thank you
Great bike and great video
Greetings from Sweden
Thankyou! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🇸🇪
I was thinking about my next bike (just made my riding license, need to upgrade to the one that allows me to ride everything in 2 years) and was undecided between Tenere 700 and F800GS, but this one seems like a real gem! And as you said it already has everything you need... im gonna keep an eye on it these years!
It’s a real special thing.. unique really! I’ll keep the info coming 🙌🏻
@@James_Rides left me no choice but to subscribe :(
@@torutara87 haha! Love it 🙌🏻
I've ridden the PR& and own the SWM Superdual which that motor. Both great bikes. I stripped my Superdual down to be the XR650R I always dreamed of (modern and e-start)
Interesting bike and great video. 👍I have wondered about going the green laning route myself but only room for the trials bike at the moment! Did my first trial the other week - it’s a steep learning curve for sure! I got round okay on the beginner route and everyone was really helpful and supportive- great atmosphere. I even got the offer of a place to practice too! 😀
Thats awesome mate! Well done 🙌🏻 it’s a nerve wracking thing to do. Only way is up.
Great video ! I’ve subscribed to hear more about this bike and your experience .
Thanks Nick! There’s gonna be loads of (hopefully) good stuff for you.
PR7 has been on my radar for 3 years.
I’ve had the T7 had 350excf, had a 701, had DRZ and 300L and a few others.
Got the 450l and PR7 mainly in my sights.
Or… I could do a tangent and get a desert sled.
Still not sure.
I’d say I’ve been having a good look for a year.. and I just kept coming back to it. It’s genuinely comfortable and feels great off road so far! I almost feel like it was ahead of its time, and it’s finally coming of age and refined!
I'm getting one! Cant wait - just a few weeks now...
Mate, you’ll love it!
Congrats James, I think we bought our PR7s about the same time. If you down in Germany, let me know. GSJack
And to you mate! Sounds like a road trip 🙌🏻
I have been looking at the PR7 seriously but also looking at last years new es700 for 7g less and then adding the tower tank etc etc
It was something I seriously looked at..
PR7s are so hard to get in Australia, and bloody expensive.
I think that’s the general consensus mate! It’s a massive shame.
Would rather AJP than ktm group
Same!
Congratulations on the new bike. I’ve only ever seen one in the flesh out on the trails down in Derbyshire, they are a bit like rocking horse poo. I use a Husky 701 which I’ve had a couple of years now having come from a GSA 1250, I do not miss the BMW. I wonder why there aren’t more dealerships in the U.K. for your bike?
Thankyou! I think it might be the import numbers available.. the production line is all done by hand so I don’t think they have the total production numbers to really scale it up. I’m super impressed with the build quality (at this point)! Hopefully see you out there soon.
I had a swm with the same engine... Gearbox ate itself after 4000 miles, took out both casings and most moving parts in the bottom end. Once rebuilt the water pump failed... Unfortunately for me the engine is just not robust enough
Aaaah that’s not ideal!! Note to self.. try not to drown it.
Great bike good price if you are serious about off road riding.I am 193cm tall,the KTM 690 feels very odd like youare stood miles away from the bike when standing on the pegs.Many shorter riders friends of mine like them though.
I see they did finally change the paint on the infamous exhaust header. Mine had an extremaly thin black matt paint and got rusty literally after first ON ROAD ride. I wish you this paint stays a little longer :)
btw. there are some chinese parts alongside big brands'. Like fuel hoses which, in my case, cracked a month after purchase (changed on warranty). Throttle cable adjuster also got rusty after about a month - not a technical problem but instantly visible ;/
I absolutely agree this bike doesn't like slow technical riding. I believe the ECU mapping is the main faulty factor here - extremely nervous reaction to each slight blip of throttle; I've never experienced anything close in a bike or a car. There is one thing you can do to improve this - put a bolt and a nut under throttle cable where it's attached to the throttle body to increase leverage for the initial part of the throttle rotational movement.
No mate! The paint is still shocking.. I can’t understand why they would still set it up like that as standard. The fuelling seems to be a little better as I’ve ran it in more. Thanks for the tips, I’ll keep an eye out on those bits 🙏🏻🙏🏻
None powerful big mono likes technical slow riding, it's a problem of weight of the crankshaft and inertia of the piston with too much torque, added to the geometry of the bike made for stability on fast tracks. Twicking the ECU won't help really. That explains why all the hard enduro are 300CC 2S or 350 4S monos, but at 110kmh you think you are gonna to die. In technical passages the XR400R pulverized all the big cc bikes of the time, as it had enough torque but not too much and a short wheebase.
A small trick I have is to use a long stroke throttle, so it's easier to control the first third of the throttle. The problem was identical on the 2000 XR650R 61hp, almost useless in technical simple tracks in forest, as it was made for desert races.
I think it's very difficult if you like to be more off-road focused and have just one bike. I thought I was gonna buy either a PR7 or a 701, but for a lot of what I want to do they are a bit heavy, so bought a CRF450L instead. But after having the 450 a year or so I realised when I need to do a fair bit of road or I just wanted more of a challenge, especially as where I mainly ride in East Anglia it's not very technical, then a T7 would probably be a good bigger bike. I don't think you need to be a pro to ride the T7 off road, I feel 99% of the time the reason people struggle on bigger bikes is they have the wrong tyres on! So personally one bike is never gonna do it all, there is no such thing as a unicorn, but I guess for most it's about finding a bike that ticks the most boxes. Totally agree about the Kove, it's too early and actually Id probably get the Fantic 450 rally which no one seems to be talking about. 👍🤘
You’re absolutely right! There just isn’t a perfect bike.. it’s always about what you’re willing to compromise on. That Fantic is beautiful , there’s only one issue with it for me.. that it’s £15,000 😮
@@James_Rides hi great video thanks, I really enjoyed it. I’m puzzled by you Fantic comment though, the Rally 500 (450 engine) is only 7500€, are we talking about the same bike? Or is the one you mention at,£15000 a different model? Thanks again, ont he basis of this one video I have subscribed to your channel, and looking forward to hearing more about the AJP. CHEERS
@@MattTofield Thankyou! You’re thinking of the Fantic Caballero Rally.. I’m referencing the Fantic XEF 450 Rally Bike. That Caballero looks really cool, I think that would be more of a rally styled road bike though. The other one however, is a full on rally beast.
@@James_Rides thanks James, I just looked it up and you are quite right the XEF is,indeed, a beast. I’ll stick to the Caballero I think, more manageable for my old bones and the sort of riding I do down here in south west France. Although, I might be tempted to have a test ride on the APJ 🙃, I just think it my outclass my skill set. Cheers again
Gas Gas 500?
Would like to have one. Still hard to get in USA went with kove 450 rally - its ok. I also have 3 km 640 adv and BMW 1150; 1200 gs.
I’ve just bought myself a 1200gs too! I was so tempted by the Kove, I’d say almost 50/50. Will probably give one a go by the time it gets to a version 2/3.
Much Enjoyment 👍😎
Thankyou 🙏🏻
Great bike
Lovely looker!
Thanks mate 🙏🏻
I want one but don't need one. With my health not 100% I'm sticking with my trusty Tiger 955i.
I think you may need both 😉 treat yourself
My name is James, I ride bikes. Two Jame's don't make a right, am I right? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You still got that pristine 1150gsa.
I’ve not! It’s gone to some Australians riding to Morocco.. I’m hoping to buy it back.
Hai I'm torn between the AJP PR7 and the Kove 450. So far I've found the only TH-cam channel where someone has traveled with it long distance and had no problems with it. th-cam.com/video/IQuf0s7GJvY/w-d-xo.html . To be honest, it convinces me more and more that the engine may just be reliable. My friend had with AJP PR7 in Morocco desert problems with fuel pump and filter. He bought a better pump. When he fell, he punctured the refrigerator, which he temporarily repaired with a two-component cold weld. Now he have radiator guard and crash bars ordered on Thork racing site
i thought they had done a new ecu tune quite a while ago that fixed the low end bogout/flameout - perhaps check with them - weird that it isn't already installed on the 24 model.... And why the hell are they still using that damn tablet...
It’s not bad bad.. just think it’s part of the running in and I’m probably reluctant to leave it revving in the lower gears.
😂 Tell me about it.. useless thing, I wanted to try and make it work but it’s just not fit for purpose.
The things that haven't changed, haven't changed because the R&D/Marketing costs haven't been covered (or the profits from those aren't high enough to justify major revisions). It's also possible that the lack of changes have to do with emissions and they currently fit under a looser tier than what's in force today (which is what the KLR/DR/XR lines did and why they remained unchanged, pure profits and no emissions updates required).
Nothing wrong with "unchanged for 6 years"..... if the price reflects it. I'm a cheap ba$tard who can't get off paying over 10 grand for a bike, much less one that's 6 years old.
I think the revisions are a good enough evolution.. suspension, brakes, clutch, ECU etc have all been changed through the years. Things like the frame seem to be the strength of the thing and I can’t see a need to change it.
I agree though, it’s an expensive thing! But looking around, everything is these days… I can’t believe the cost of a new enduro bike.
How tall are you? (May have mentioned it in vid but I missed it)
I’m 5,7 but I am used to tallish off road bikes (but did have to lower my T7)
I’m 6ft and long legged about 33 inch inseam.. it is TALL, I may have accidentally wobbled off it already on a camber.
@@James_Rides I may have to lower it a bit then. Been fine on all my other bikes. (701 etc) but had to lower my T7 as it was so top heavy. And I ride off road (TET type mainly) a fair bit.
What's the ultimate leprechaun bike
Monkeybike
You look to be a tall gent and the bike seems to be way to tall for us normal sized guys. Great looking bike but wat to high for my feet lol
It is a tall girl! I’m 6ft with a 32 inch inseam if it helps 😀
690 all the way
They’re very boring though..
Same engine as same 650
I feel so sorry for you. We have a new one purchased from official distribution ajp spr240. I sincerely advise everyone to avoid this manufacturer. We just seized the engine in the spr240. Since the crankcase breather is routed underneath the engine and not into the Airbox like on other motorcycles, the engine took on water and sand through breather. All during normal use on the same route with other motorcycles. Unfortunately, the manufacturer did not acknowledge the complaint and we have to go to court. Already during breaking in there was a problem with the fuel system, leading to overheating of the engine. In this situation, the manufacturer also ignored the problem. In addition, in the information on the motorcycle there is a rear suspension travel of 300mm, which unfortunately is a lie. There is only about 260mm between the rear wheel and the fender, swingarm fully relieved. This causes the wheel to hit the fender on larger potholes. I ADVISE AVOIDING AJP!!!
That’s awful! Sorry to hear that mate. Hope you get a resolution 🙏🏻
Is great bike but right now on the market is Kove 450 Rally they have millions to support diler network and mor $$ for marketing not good for AJP :-(
I hope the Kove succeeds! It’s all competition that gets us consumers better bikes in the long run 🙌🏻
That slomo b roll bro... 🤢
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"The bike no one wants", and the factory can't produce enough for the demand. Imagine if everyone wanted one.
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It's really unbelievable how they can put that shit tablet on that bike for what they charge for it! WTF AJP?
It really is bad.. so far though, it’s the only thing that is an issue.
The problem is the chosen slow Samsung. But it's pretty difficult to find a tablet which not self destroys on a bike.