very nice video Greg I saw you on the trip I was the Italian guy took a picture of you all ! looking forward to see the videos! I am having my first days of green lining in Surrey and I love it! TET soon maybe I ll give shout when in your area!
Exhaust system: it might be worth your while getting in touch with Delkevic as they will often do a deal if they don’t yet produce an exhausted your model of bike. They borrow your bike for a few weeks(!) but you get a cheap deal on the exhaust. Les
Dont worry about the fan Greg,if the engine is not above its normal operating temp then its all good.Cars run the fan very often in traffic with no adverse effects
Greg mate, I’m interested in buying the PR7. To ride the TET in need to commute several highway. How is the bike for let’s say an hour and a half wind wise. Is that okish? Or is it not a good traveler and should I buy a T7 or desertX. Cheers mate and keep it rolling.
Would you say the Husqvarna 901 norden would be a better choice or that new Ducati desert X the saying goes you get what you pay for Are you happy with your bike would you recommend one for around the world tours
Mate really loved your review!. A really BIG thank you for your honest and humble way of describing your PR7 experience. It's on my short list so keen to hear all about it thanks for sharing your story. G'Day from Sydney.
Hey Greg,great vid👍 I've got the 21 pr7, loving it,seems to manage everything I throw at it so very pleased. The issue with the crappy headers and lower pipe does piss me off a bit so I'm going to make up my own stainless pipes and marry them up to a scorpion can😁😁 Let you know how it turns out👍👍
I wonder how this compares to a Honda XR650L… Has anyone done a video on this? I owned a brand new 1984 XR500R when I was young. It was a monster. I love the AJP. It seems to be built from very high quality components. The small issues I’ve heard about guys having seem to be easily fixed and the company has a great reputation for excellent customer service and support.
Interesting to listen to this review Greg, thanks. If you recall, I PM'd you some while ago after a trip to Wales on my 950 Adv as I was considering the AJP to replace the 950 if only for weight savings. I didn't make the swap and love my 950, I'm learning its capabilities the more I ride it but the limiting factor is me more than the bike!! And like you, I have a 450exc in the garage for more technical and knarly stuff. Keep up the vids, love listening. Would be good to hook up one day so if you're ever in Devon look me up 👍
I also had clutch issues so sold the bike back to dealer after the 2nd clutch problem within a very short period of ownership and covering just 2500 miles. The after sales support was fantastic, I was well looked after by the dealer who did everything they could to resolve the problem but unreliability and lack of readily available parts made the decision an easy one for me. Im now on a KTM690.
@@GregVillalobos Great so far. Just under 2000 miles with no issues. I've fitted a rally tower for my nav gear and extra tank for more range making it a few grand dearer than an AJP. Hopefully worth it but only time will tell!
@@peterlivsey2138 Hi Peter, I am wondering how your experience is compared to the AJP bike one year later. I am currently in the market for these bikes. My descision will be between the 690/701 or the PR7. Would realy like to know what the cons or pros would be for any of these bikes. Thanks in advance!
@@DieHardINL Just my opinion but the 690 is far better built and supported. I'm at 9k of off-road riding and racing on the bike with no mechanical issues. The PR7 has the screen/tower as standard so it's cheaper compared to the 690 + rally tower but I had a few issues in my short time with mine. Test ride a 690/701 and see if it's what you're looking for.
@@peterlivsey2138 Thanks you so much! That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. Reliability and part availability are pretty important for longer adventure rides. Still have to ride both and will make a descision after that. I am 2m (6,5ft) so have to make sure the bike suits me. PR7 has a great package though, but 690 is probably a longer lasting choice. Thank you for the quick response! Ride on 🤟
First off, great production quality as always! Love the photos you shoot. My question is what do you see as the bikes biggest weak point, and is it something you feel you can work around or live with??
So, it's heavier than my 450 EXC and most of the time that's no drama, but occasionally on tricky trails I have felt the weight, especially as it's not so easy for shorties to get their feet down. I guess the biggest weak point for me is confidence in reliability. Others have had problems but so far mine has been largely trouble free. I purposefully have not changed anything significant from stock as my suspicion is that the problems arise when you start tweaking stuff that has an impact on the fuelling and ECU. This is one of the reasons for not putting the power up kit on. I think it's easier to work on than say a 690, however you have to work a bit harder to find parts etc whereas the KTM parts setup is super easy. Hope that helps!
Great video! With your insight and knowledge of adventure bikes I'd love to see a video on which bike you'd take on a RTW trip. The AJP surely is an awesome bike but would you trust it outside of Europe? Keep it up!
That's such a good question. For me the PR7 has a big grin factor, and as my trips are fairly short it's about packing those grins in. Maybe for a longer trip where you just need total reliability then something like the CRF250L / Rally might be a contender. It would get you where you need to go but probably slower and with a bit less testosterone. And for a RTW trip maybe that's OK.
planning a trip through north and South America and im leaving in a couple of months. going to buy the bike in the US because shipping a bike back and forth from Europe seems too expensive atm will be riding mainly Offroad trails like the BDR and the TAT in the US, head into BAJA and see what happens after..... I'm seriously considering this bike vs modding a Ktm 500 vs a Honda CRF 450L. ( the Honda and Ktm need more money after buy to get them suitable.... the pro's and the con's....) what's your opinion?
and sorry for triple post but just for context, I own a Sherco 350 sef and a T7. wouldn't mind doing it on the T7, knowing that id have to sacrifice some of the gnarliest stuff (even though I've ridden two multi stage rally races on them and man those bikes can boogie). BUT the quotes I'm getting for a one way shipping from EU to USA are from the 1500 euro upwards.... so 3000 euro seems just not worth it to send a bike back and forth.. end of monologue. cheers man
It's hard to say as everyone has different preferences. I would choose the T7 for a road ride, but not for anything that was off road. That's just where I prefer my compromise, the EXC is less comfort on the road but more options for the dirt and I'll take that.
Can you speak a bit on your experiences with parts availability for these bikes? Its probably the biggest drawback compared to a KTM/Yamaha/Honda thing. (writing as a former TE610 owner).
You can get the parts. BUT it's not as easy as with my KTM EXC. If you have a local dealer you can call them up and they will help you, but it's not as simple as just punching in a part number to a KTM website. I've not been let down so far though. Just takes a little bit of effort.
The Motoz ADV yes 👍 I agree do last longer but also agree the Rallz is better traction off road and actually on road as well as they have more silicon than the ADV . The Motoz Desert 🏜 HT,s are traction MAX , but are SO noisy on road .Here is an idea try fitting a SWM RS 650 pipe it’s a high pipe and runs straight off the same engine.
Ok nice review on the PR7 … but what do you mean by 6 7 is not tall? According to Imperial to Metric system calculations it is about 2METER and 1 cm …. Mmm to me that is considered tall, at least where I’m living in the Netherlands and we have the tallest people on the planet. So pleas could you re measure ar tell me how much in centimeters (the Napolian way of measuring or French way. Please
I'm considering the PR7 to replace my T7, which is a great bike in so many ways but as soon as it gets slow and slippery, you really feel the weight and how high it sits. I want to test ride the PR7 but doubt I'll get a chance to ride it on the chalky lanes near where I live. How do you find it in these conditions?
Hi Greg, I have a Kawasaki KLR 650 and most of the time I do full day rides and almost all the time in dirt roads or tracks. I have a job that wont allow me to travel for to many days. What I like the most is riding in the dirt. I live in Peru and there are very nice full day rides in the mountains Sierra or the desert. My KLR is limited to do some rides and I was hoping to buy a second hand enduro bike to do more tecnical rides. When I saw the PR7 I really liked how it looks and started to read about it. I was thinking that maybe instead of having two bikes I could have only one the PR7. I will not do very hardcore enduro rides like climbing steep mountains but maybe I can use the PR7 to do some tecnical enduro? Do you think is that posible? I dont have a big budget so PR7 could give me the oportunity to have one bike for both type of rides? Thanks
Hi! My Dad is from Peru. Anyway, I think the PR7 could be great unless you are at altitude. Drop Heather a message to find out how she is getting on - the bike has developed some issues in the mountains - instagram.com/improbablyadventuring/
To chip in my thoughts on the difference between the 690: I think you sit ON the KTM, and IN the AJP a bit. The AJP is softer all around, engine, seating etc. The biggest issue for me was the size of it. It's somehow bigger, but WAY smaller: my knees were around my ears when I sat down, so even with the cushy seat, the KTM is more comfortable to me. I'm 185cm tall for ref. Deffo getting a Seat Concepts seat when they're available though.
I've been ogling the PR7 for sometime now. I was super excited when you picked one up. Any regrets? Would you still recommend it to friend? My current bike is a WR250R, which I love, but looking for something more comfortable for the highway sections. P.S. Fantastic video, as always!
Thanks! I guess your question warrants a longer answer, but in short, I've been very happy with my PR7. There are others who have had problems with theirs but so far mine has been fairly trouble free. I don't ride far from home though.
@@GregVillalobos Perhaps indeed it would warrant a longer answer. I don't know, maybe in form of another video. 😁 Thanks for taking the time to reply. I do feel like I've seen enough to confidently pull the trigger on the PR7. Now just need to get on the waitlist here in Madrid.
I like your talking head videos. Did it come to your mind that some vloggers do not understand that camera lense is viewers eyes. I speak about those guys who use they hands a lot and they love to push it to camera direction. I often feel like they want to punch me. And those lense cover with hand transitions also in my mind are a bit awful for the same reason.
I hear what you're saying about the fans kicking in. Cringe. Especially since the crossers (and maybe smaller enduros. Don't quote me) don't even have fans. It makes you wonder just how hot it's actually getting for those to keep kicking in?...as you say, it's probably best to just let go over your head. That's what they're there for. It makes you curious if the radiators are particularly small for that kind of engine or something though, just food for thought?...
Allways a pleasure to listen to you Gregorio !!!
Thanks Javier!
very nice video Greg I saw you on the trip I was the Italian guy took a picture of you all ! looking forward to see the videos! I am having my first days of green lining in Surrey and I love it! TET soon maybe I ll give shout when in your area!
Ha! Great to meet you man!
Exhaust system: it might be worth your while getting in touch with Delkevic as they will often do a deal if they don’t yet produce an exhausted your model of bike. They borrow your bike for a few weeks(!) but you get a cheap deal on the exhaust. Les
Thanks for the tip :-)
Dont worry about the fan Greg,if the engine is not above its normal operating temp then its all good.Cars run the fan very often in traffic with no adverse effects
Greg you are quite short for 6' 7"- 6' 8" 😀I think you were mixing it with 690 👍good set of vid's.
Damn! Did I may a mistake! Wish I was 6'7"!
Yeah, but you'd struggle ro find a bed
Greg mate, I’m interested in buying the PR7. To ride the TET in need to commute several highway. How is the bike for let’s say an hour and a half wind wise. Is that okish? Or is it not a good traveler and should I buy a T7 or desertX. Cheers mate and keep it rolling.
Would you say the Husqvarna 901 norden would be a better choice or that new Ducati desert X the saying goes you get what you pay for
Are you happy with your bike would you recommend one for around the world tours
Maybe weld some Aluminium extensions on the skidplate for protect the headerpipe more.
Mate really loved your review!. A really BIG thank you for your honest and humble way of describing your PR7 experience. It's on my short list so keen to hear all about it thanks for sharing your story. G'Day from Sydney.
Glad it was helpful!
great vid. Looking forward to seeing the HP2. Not something we see a lot of in videos, such a legendary bike. and rare.
Thanks. I'm looking forward to seeing it too
Hey Greg,great vid👍
I've got the 21 pr7, loving it,seems to manage everything I throw at it so very pleased.
The issue with the crappy headers and lower pipe does piss me off a bit so I'm going to make up
my own stainless pipes and marry them up to a scorpion can😁😁
Let you know how it turns out👍👍
Oooo that sounds like a great project. Best of luck!
I wonder how this compares to a Honda XR650L… Has anyone done a video on this? I owned a brand new 1984 XR500R when I was young. It was a monster. I love the AJP. It seems to be built from very high quality components. The small issues I’ve heard about guys having seem to be easily fixed and the company has a great reputation for excellent customer service and support.
I really want to make one of those into an adventure bike, but I think this might be a better option.
Interesting to listen to this review Greg, thanks.
If you recall, I PM'd you some while ago after a trip to Wales on my 950 Adv as I was considering the AJP to replace the 950 if only for weight savings. I didn't make the swap and love my 950, I'm learning its capabilities the more I ride it but the limiting factor is me more than the bike!! And like you, I have a 450exc in the garage for more technical and knarly stuff.
Keep up the vids, love listening. Would be good to hook up one day so if you're ever in Devon look me up 👍
Ah thanks! Glad you enjoying the 950
Your experience is really interesting. Thanks for the Vid Mate
Glad you enjoyed it
The cold start seems to be pretty standard procedure with li-ion batteries same on any bike with this batteries.
Yup, not so great in the cold
I also had clutch issues so sold the bike back to dealer after the 2nd clutch problem within a very short period of ownership and covering just 2500 miles.
The after sales support was fantastic, I was well looked after by the dealer who did everything they could to resolve the problem but unreliability and lack of readily available parts made the decision an easy one for me.
Im now on a KTM690.
How you getting on with the 690?
@@GregVillalobos Great so far. Just under 2000 miles with no issues.
I've fitted a rally tower for my nav gear and extra tank for more range making it a few grand dearer than an AJP.
Hopefully worth it but only time will tell!
@@peterlivsey2138 Hi Peter, I am wondering how your experience is compared to the AJP bike one year later. I am currently in the market for these bikes. My descision will be between the 690/701 or the PR7. Would realy like to know what the cons or pros would be for any of these bikes. Thanks in advance!
@@DieHardINL Just my opinion but the 690 is far better built and supported. I'm at 9k of off-road riding and racing on the bike with no mechanical issues. The PR7 has the screen/tower as standard so it's cheaper compared to the 690 + rally tower but I had a few issues in my short time with mine. Test ride a 690/701 and see if it's what you're looking for.
@@peterlivsey2138 Thanks you so much! That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. Reliability and part availability are pretty important for longer adventure rides. Still have to ride both and will make a descision after that. I am 2m (6,5ft) so have to make sure the bike suits me. PR7 has a great package though, but 690 is probably a longer lasting choice. Thank you for the quick response! Ride on 🤟
First off, great production quality as always! Love the photos you shoot. My question is what do you see as the bikes biggest weak point, and is it something you feel you can work around or live with??
So, it's heavier than my 450 EXC and most of the time that's no drama, but occasionally on tricky trails I have felt the weight, especially as it's not so easy for shorties to get their feet down.
I guess the biggest weak point for me is confidence in reliability. Others have had problems but so far mine has been largely trouble free. I purposefully have not changed anything significant from stock as my suspicion is that the problems arise when you start tweaking stuff that has an impact on the fuelling and ECU. This is one of the reasons for not putting the power up kit on.
I think it's easier to work on than say a 690, however you have to work a bit harder to find parts etc whereas the KTM parts setup is super easy.
Hope that helps!
Thank's Greg for your 4500 mile review
You are welcome!
Gr8 info, content, and no-nonsense delivery! subscrided.👍
Thanks!
Great video! With your insight and knowledge of adventure bikes I'd love to see a video on which bike you'd take on a RTW trip. The AJP surely is an awesome bike but would you trust it outside of Europe? Keep it up!
That's such a good question. For me the PR7 has a big grin factor, and as my trips are fairly short it's about packing those grins in.
Maybe for a longer trip where you just need total reliability then something like the CRF250L / Rally might be a contender. It would get you where you need to go but probably slower and with a bit less testosterone. And for a RTW trip maybe that's OK.
Better than KTM
What is this bike like in technical terrain at slow speed ? Is it snatchy ?
Because I own a kove 450 and I find it a little hard work
Some people say it's snatchy but I didn't really notice it. I'm used to riding a big single though.
Short at 6"7 ? Do you mean 5"7 ?
Yes!
planning a trip through north and South America and im leaving in a couple of months. going to buy the bike in the US because shipping a bike back and forth from Europe seems too expensive atm
will be riding mainly Offroad trails like the BDR and the TAT in the US, head into BAJA and see what happens after..... I'm seriously considering this bike vs modding a Ktm 500 vs a Honda CRF 450L. ( the Honda and Ktm need more money after buy to get them suitable.... the pro's and the con's....) what's your opinion?
ps great video! :D
and sorry for triple post but just for context, I own a Sherco 350 sef and a T7. wouldn't mind doing it on the T7, knowing that id have to sacrifice some of the gnarliest stuff (even though I've ridden two multi stage rally races on them and man those bikes can boogie). BUT the quotes I'm getting for a one way shipping from EU to USA are from the 1500 euro upwards.... so 3000 euro seems just not worth it to send a bike back and forth..
end of monologue. cheers man
It's hard to say as everyone has different preferences. I would choose the T7 for a road ride, but not for anything that was off road. That's just where I prefer my compromise, the EXC is less comfort on the road but more options for the dirt and I'll take that.
Can you speak a bit on your experiences with parts availability for these bikes? Its probably the biggest drawback compared to a KTM/Yamaha/Honda thing. (writing as a former TE610 owner).
You can get the parts. BUT it's not as easy as with my KTM EXC. If you have a local dealer you can call them up and they will help you, but it's not as simple as just punching in a part number to a KTM website.
I've not been let down so far though. Just takes a little bit of effort.
Hi Greg, thanks for the great video, do you have some extra info regarding the upgraded fuel filter your installed? Thanks!
Yup - www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/golan-products-70-312g-filter
The Motoz ADV yes 👍 I agree do last longer but also agree the Rallz is better traction off road and actually on road as well as they have more silicon than the ADV . The Motoz Desert 🏜 HT,s are traction MAX , but are SO noisy on road .Here is an idea try fitting a SWM RS 650 pipe it’s a high pipe and runs straight off the same engine.
I'll take a look at that pipe - thanks!
Take off the header pipe, sand blast the rust off, paint it with heat resistant paint
That would be a nice DIY video!
I'm not confident that the paint would last really
@@GregVillalobos have it cerakoted Greg, it's not expensive, very durable
Ok nice review on the PR7 … but what do you mean by 6 7 is not tall? According to Imperial to Metric system calculations it is about 2METER and 1 cm …. Mmm to me that is considered tall, at least where I’m living in the Netherlands and we have the tallest people on the planet. So pleas could you re measure ar tell me how much in centimeters (the Napolian way of measuring or French way. Please
How are the valve interval and top / bottom end jobs etc? Thanks
One valve was out of spec at about 3000 miles. Other than that it was fine.
I'm considering the PR7 to replace my T7, which is a great bike in so many ways but as soon as it gets slow and slippery, you really feel the weight and how high it sits. I want to test ride the PR7 but doubt I'll get a chance to ride it on the chalky lanes near where I live. How do you find it in these conditions?
I've not really ridden on the chalky lanes. I assume they are slippery when wet? In which case go as light as you can!
Thanks for the info mate
No problem 👍
Hi Greg, I have a Kawasaki KLR 650 and most of the time I do full day rides and almost all the time in dirt roads or tracks. I have a job that wont allow me to travel for to many days. What I like the most is riding in the dirt. I live in Peru and there are very nice full day rides in the mountains Sierra or the desert. My KLR is limited to do some rides and I was hoping to buy a second hand enduro bike to do more tecnical rides. When I saw the PR7 I really liked how it looks and started to read about it. I was thinking that maybe instead of having two bikes I could have only one the PR7. I will not do very hardcore enduro rides like climbing steep mountains but maybe I can use the PR7 to do some tecnical enduro? Do you think is that posible? I dont have a big budget so PR7 could give me the oportunity to have one bike for both type of rides? Thanks
Hi! My Dad is from Peru. Anyway, I think the PR7 could be great unless you are at altitude. Drop Heather a message to find out how she is getting on - the bike has developed some issues in the mountains - instagram.com/improbablyadventuring/
To chip in my thoughts on the difference between the 690: I think you sit ON the KTM, and IN the AJP a bit. The AJP is softer all around, engine, seating etc.
The biggest issue for me was the size of it. It's somehow bigger, but WAY smaller: my knees were around my ears when I sat down, so even with the cushy seat, the KTM is more comfortable to me. I'm 185cm tall for ref.
Deffo getting a Seat Concepts seat when they're available though.
ON v IN. Nice ;-)
Do you ever considered lowering the bike?
I thought about it but I don't really want to mess around with the geometry. Having said that, I may well give it a go.
I love your videos! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
That underslung exhaust sure is a weird design for a off-road oriented bike, looks like a nice bike otherwise!
A lot of Rally bikes have this style of exhaust
6'8" quite tall , lol, great review
I've been ogling the PR7 for sometime now. I was super excited when you picked one up. Any regrets? Would you still recommend it to friend? My current bike is a WR250R, which I love, but looking for something more comfortable for the highway sections.
P.S. Fantastic video, as always!
Thanks! I guess your question warrants a longer answer, but in short, I've been very happy with my PR7. There are others who have had problems with theirs but so far mine has been fairly trouble free. I don't ride far from home though.
@@GregVillalobos Perhaps indeed it would warrant a longer answer. I don't know, maybe in form of another video. 😁 Thanks for taking the time to reply. I do feel like I've seen enough to confidently pull the trigger on the PR7. Now just need to get on the waitlist here in Madrid.
Villalobos is kind of a Portuguese surname “Town wolfs”
"House of Wolves" ;-)
Awesome bud cheers 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
I like your talking head videos. Did it come to your mind that some vloggers do not understand that camera lense is viewers eyes. I speak about those guys who use they hands a lot and they love to push it to camera direction. I often feel like they want to punch me. And those lense cover with hand transitions also in my mind are a bit awful for the same reason.
I hear what you're saying about the fans kicking in. Cringe. Especially since the crossers (and maybe smaller enduros. Don't quote me) don't even have fans. It makes you wonder just how hot it's actually getting for those to keep kicking in?...as you say, it's probably best to just let go over your head. That's what they're there for. It makes you curious if the radiators are particularly small for that kind of engine or something though, just food for thought?...
I feel that the fans kick in earlier on the PR7 than my 450EXC
That's supposed to be a titanium header....must be that mild steel that looks a bit like titanium when it's new.
Why is it supposed to be titanium?
@@henrikforsberg683 what I saw on a spec sheet...maybe it's only the power kit pipe that's titanium?
Think it's the power up that's titanium
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Great bike bad service from AJP factory
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